The Killshot and the Shuttle

[bashi]

Let me warm up an old story, because of recent developments.

Many might remember the “Killshot” by Ed Dames.
Here:


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Although controversial, this prediction got a circumstantial beef-up:

It predicted a gigantic CME caused by a celestial body passing.
The time-marker for it to happen was the following scenario:
When a space-shuttle, while on mission and in orbit, will be forced to abandon the mission and to land prematurely due to a meteor-shower, then “you have to be in place” (in a safe spot).
The space shuttle has only 2 missions left to go before it will get mothballed.
The second last mission will start on 1st November and will last till the 11th . See here:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

That’s nothing new, strange or worrisome. But for this prediction to kick in, this is one out of two chances left. Not many chances left. So was it all just BS?

Telling is that the next mission covers a critical timeframe (see other threads about that), during which the shuttle will be in orbit.

But there is more to it:
NASA warns that a new and intense meteor shower might hit the Earth with a maximum on “ especially the Nov. 2nd and 3rd. That's when a potential Hartley-id meteor shower would be most intense”.

See here: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/27oct_hartleyids/

Although officially there is no gigantic body passing though the solar system, you should remember this:
If the shuttle happens to get forced down, then you should keep an eye on the sun…

[Richard]

Thanks, interesting info from NASA.
You may also want to take a look at this page: http://educate-yourself.org/lte/eddameskillshot01feb09.shtml

snippet:
It's part of a huge fear psyops that Ed Dames is a party to. Ed is a disinformation specialist. He was involved with the Army at Fort Detrick Maryland and is a tool of the NWO- Pentagon Division. He came out of the box in the mid 1990's on the Art Bell radio show. He was assigned that task by his supervisors at Fort Detrick and the CIA. He presumably wanted to tell the world all about Remote Viewing and eventually offered on-site training for his version of Technical Remote Viewing for a few thousand bucks or you could get his 4 part home video course for something like $200. I'm sure he made a ton of money.

Some people have speculated that Ed was sent onto the Art Bell show to help discredit and draw attention away from Courtney Brown, another remote viewer (originally trained under Ed) who appeared on the Art Bell show BEFORE Ed and essentially broke the story of Remote Viewing. The CIA didn't want Courtney leading the parade on the topic of remote viewing, so they sent in their boy Ed to put Courtney down and make it appear that Ed's info was of much greater reliability and accuracy. The facts are quite the opposite, however. Courtney Brown, along with Prudence Calabrese, had developed a more powerful version of remote viewing, I believe, than the government-sanctioned stuff that Ed was pushing and the government didn't want the general public to know that so they arranged with their boy Art Bell to feature Ed Dames as his guest on multiple occasions in order to establish Ed as."the" authority on Remote Viewing. It worked for a while at least.

Courtney's reputation was further denigrated and marginalized in 1997 when Art Bell teamed up with author Whitley Strieber, another disinformation tool of the CIA/Pentagon, in order to sandbag Courtney on the Bell show and make it appear that Courtney was "caught" in a lie about a supposedly "faked" photo of the object that was trailing behind the Hale-Bopp comet that Courtney had obtained from an observatory in Hawaii. Bell and Strieber wanted the public to believe that there was NO object trailing behind the Hale-Bopp comet--CONTROLLING its trajectory-- and that Courtney had conspired with others to promote this FAKE photo, FAKE story, and FAKE ALLEGATION made by Courtney that this object was controlling the movement of the Hale-Bopp comet. Chuck Shramek was also denigrated on the Art Bell show as being part of this 'faked" story. The truth was just the opposite. There WAS a huge spheroid "object" trailing behind the Hale Bopp comet and it WAS controlling the comet's trajectory and it WOULD have slammed into earth had it not been "taken care of" by unseen "forces"
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/eddameskillshot01feb09.shtml

I have been and will continue watching the stars as well as our star daily though. And IF the shuttle returns early, the mountains in the north aren't far :)

[lightblue]

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If the shuttle happens to get forced down, then you should keep an eye on the sun…




there are people here who keep a close eye on nasa's releases...hope someone reports it in good time.. :unsure: l




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[bashi]

This seems to be the perfect setting for "The Killshot":

1. Shuttle in space (ROBOT SET TO JOIN SPACE STATION CREW)
2. New Meteor shower coming (BE ALERT FOR 'HARTLEY-ID' METEORS)
3. Potential for a big solar event (RETURN OF THE MEGA-FILAMENT)

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=11&day=02&year=2010&view=view

Now, to make it clear: I am not predicting something.
Just saying that it would fit in ...

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks, bashi - please continue to keep an eye on this.

I have to say, it's interesting. There are one or two circumstantial indicators that something big may be brewing.


One very sensitive psychic I know is 100% totally convinced that something is afoot and has been for several weeks.
Lindsey Williams described (talking to Alex Jones on 21 October (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7280-Lindsey-Williams-LATEST-News-from-the-Elite-WWIII-Gas-150-Barrel-USD-Collapse)) how someone he knew had a private dinner with Janet Napolitano (Secretary of Homeland Security) and was told by her to "go home and stock up with food because something big is about to happen".
Benjamin Fulford - whom I now usually discount totally - made reference to insiders (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7635-Ben-Fulford-Blogs-David-Wilcock-Comments) discussing the possibility of a "once in 300 years" event sometime in the next couple of months. David Wilcock partially agreed with the risk.
I was pretty much impelled to post the video of last year's Matthew Stein's WHEN TECHNOLOGY FAILS (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5768-Matthew-Stein-WHEN-TECHNOLOGY-FAILS) interview with Kerry and myself. I woke up one morning a few weeks ago, and it suddenly felt urgent to do it. (Urgent or not, it was a valuable addition to the canon.)
I'm often reminded of a warning message Kerry and I received in 2007 from a credible, known scientific source (a name many here would recognize) - under Top Secret clearance and contracted to the DHS - who told us that a CME was on its way in the next few years, and referenced the event of 1859 when I asked him for more data. He said we would all be in for a tough time, and apologized that he was unable to say more.


Now, to make it clear: I am not predicting something.
Just saying that it would fit in ...

I echo those words. I don't hold Ed Dames in very high regard either, but if the shuttle DOES return early because of a meteor shower, I'm going to start to raise the alarm.

[Rocky_Shorz]

last night the cable broadcast I was watching kept fading out, something I don't remember happening before so the satellites might already be getting affected...

having our satellites knocked out would be crippling enough for society which would cause us to lose communications, but take out electricity at the same time and it would be catastrophic... no news, no phone, no water, no gas...

I had a friend with an electric can opener that broke...

they didn't know how to use a manual one...

we're in trouble... ;)


right before it happens, let's dump the IRS and the Fed...

when the power comes back on it would be a new world...

a 20 pound bag of Rice and Beans won't do much good without heat to boil water...

[Operator]

I don't hold Ed Dames in very high regard either, but if the shuttle DOES return early because of a meteor shower, I'm going to start to raise the alarm.

Well the event will stick in the back of your memory because it's described so precise ... I've always thought that it should happen then before the end of 2010 because the shuttles
would be taken out of service ... Apparently not exactly true .... here's a link to the launch schedule (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html).

There are still 2 flights planned:

STS133 - Nov. 4 2010 (that's in 2 days)
STS134 - Feb. 27+ 2011 (+ means could be later)

I've contacted Ed Dames a couple of months ago ... he still believes the event is seriously on a future time line.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

And there is also the Web Bot predicted massive event for the 8th Nov, could it be this?

[Operator]

And there is also the Web Bot predicted massive event for the 8th Nov, could it be this?

I cannot give you an answer ... It makes no sense to live in fear either ...

I try to stick to facts, dates and exact statements ... They are the things that can serve as indicators only

[Arpheus]

Let me ask you all one simple question folks.what do you do to prepare for anything of such scale when you simply have no extra cash WHATSOEVER and live from paycheck to paycheck like many people out there do,including myself i mean seriously what do you do when your on that boat?I am asking a serious question that deserves a serious answer and please refrain from jokes cause that ain't funny at all,this is how i deal with it i simply don't think about it i live the moment the now and will continue to do so because if i wasted my time and energy worrying about the future crazy collapse that will eventually happen i would go nuts and never stop thinking about it,nevertheless the question still has a valid point.Honestly i am not afraid to lose my physical body if it comes down to that because i am fully aware that i am eternal so why worry?

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Let me ask you all one simple question folks.what do you do to prepare for anything of such scale when you simply have no extra cash WHATSOEVER and live from paycheck to paycheck like many people out there do,including myself i mean seriously what do you do when your on that boat?I am asking a serious question that deserves a serious answer and please refrain from jokes cause that ain't funny at all,this is how i deal with it i simply don't think about it i live the moment the now and will continue to do so because if i wasted my time and energy worrying about the future crazy collapse that will eventually happen i would go nuts and never stop thinking about it,nevertheless the question still has a valid point.Honestly i am not afraid to lose my physical body if it comes down to that because i am fully aware that i am eternal so why worry?

You survive. The best you can with what you've got. Just like Humankind has always done, through pole changes, ice ages, super volcanoes, solar flares, meteor impacts, none of these things are new and they will continue to challenge us. Maybe we wouldn't have evolved the way we have without these things.

[bashi]

Thanks, bashi - please continue to keep an eye on this.


Sorry Bill, i cant. Tomorrow i will go on "vacation" for some days. You know: Into a steep, narrow valley in the Alps, with a cozy cave...

Here some links to monitor:

For CMEs: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/today.html
http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/

Some news: "The launch of space shuttle Discovery has been delayed until Thursday, Nov. 4th"
http://www.spaceweather.com/


One very sensitive psychic I know is 100% totally convinced that something is afoot
A few months ago i met someone whom i know for more than 25 years. That person told me in 1987 that " the Berlin wall will come down and will be sold in pieces as souvenirs", which i just couldnt believe that time. just 2 years later exactly that happened.
That person said this time something about future events: "The start of a dark age is NOW" ; "Dogs dont eat dogs, but humans will behave worse than animals" ;
Also " Fire will rain from the sky". Someone else present was obviously doubting it, because it was emphasized: " It WILL happen"
I asked for some dates, but was not given. My overall impression was that these events are in our very near future.
This is what i can tell.
I know its doom and gloom, but its a matter of perception. That person said also something about increasing the heat to forge the steel of souls...


I hope to meet you girls/guys soon again.

[Oouthere]

You need to look at Ed's accuracy rate.....it's not very high. He sounds very convincing but the history says otherwise.

Rich

[norman]

To add to the confusion, The midnight news, last night, on BBC Radio 4 mentioned the imminent shuttle launch. I was only listening with 'one ear' but I think they said it had been cancelled ( or posponed ) due to "an electrical fault". I spotted this thread today and expected to read disscussion about the cancellation but no, not a comment like that at all. Have any of you checked the latest news from NASA about this?

Either they are trying to avoid something or they are still waiting for something, me thinks.

[Fredkc]

Ok, guess what didn't go up? ...and ain'ta goin' up 'till Feb, 2011?

this from E-week.com (http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Midmarket/NASA-Pushes-Last-Shuttle-Launch-into-2011-867477/) by Nathan Eddy:

The launch dates of space shuttle Endeavour and Discovery are pushed back due to "space traffic" and a delay in upgrades to parts destined for the International Space Station, NASA reports.

The last launch of NASA’s storied space shuttle program has been pushed back to Feb. 26, 2011, the space agency has reported.

Space shuttle Endeavour's STS-134 mission to the International Space Station (ISS), which will deliver spare parts to the orbiting facility, will be the 36th mission to the station. NASA also announced space shuttle Discovery's three main engines have been installed ahead of the launch of the STS-133 mission, the second to last, later this year.

“The target dates were adjusted because critical payload hardware for the STS-133 mission will not be ready in time for the previously targeted date,” the space agency explained. “With Discovery's move, Endeavour had to plan for its next available window, which was February.”

Also, my wife heard on CNN that they had postponed because they discovered a fuel leak. So... to sum up:

The shuttle isn't going up either because:
Fuel leak,
Space traffic,
Payload not ready.The last two in the same story.

Would you consider a meteor storm "Space Traffic" if you worked at NASA?
Fred

[Operator]

You need to look at Ed's accuracy rate.....it's not very high. He sounds very convincing but the history says otherwise.

I would rather choose the word specific ... which for me does not mean convincing. The track record does not make me hold my breath too.
Since it was very specific it's easy to keep it back in your memory ... IF the precursor events would occur you at least have some handles how to get grip on
the situation ... nothing more nothing less.


MMT to Meet Wednesday on Electrical Issues
Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:21:01 PM GMT-0400

The Prelaunch Mission Management Team wants to give engineers more time to look deeply into two electrical issues from a main engine computer controller that cropped up this morning. Therefore, the launch of space shuttle Discovery on STS-133 has been delayed until at least Thursday. Mike Moses, chair of the MMT, said the problems are believed to be tied to a circuit breaker in the shuttle's cockpit.

Rather than rush the shuttle launch team through an analysis and launch cycle quickly, Moses said he opted to let the engineers work throughout the night on the issue without having to worry about an early morning tanking and Wednesday afternoon launch. The MMT will meet again Wednesday at 2 p.m. EDT and then decide whether to try to launch Thursday. A liftoff Thursday would be at 3:29 p.m.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

Countdown clock for launch is running ...

Extra remarkable for this mission is Robonaut 2 (R2) (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/29apr10_r2/).
More indications that unmanned space flight may become become a necessity ...

[Fredkc]

So, are we now saying the shuttle isn't launching because of:
Fuel leak,
Space traffic,
Payload not ready,
Bad circuit breaker?
Or am I getting the two launches confused?
Fred

Story I quoted says Endeavor, and Discovery, yours mentions Discovery.

What's next? "My dog ate the Launch Schedule"?

[Operator]

So, are we now saying the shuttle isn't launching

The clock is running down so ...


What's next? "My dog ate the Launch Schedule"?

My links were directly from NASA so either they are taken over by a bunch of monkeys or they get so mixed up by their own lies they don't know what to say next ... :p

[Fredkc]

Don't doubt your accuracy or sincerity, Operator.

Re. NASA? I'm goin' with the monkey theory ;)
Fred

Operator, et al, re. RoboNaut 2 (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/29apr10_r2/);

Excuse my "TV culture ignorance" but... does this look like a "Ceylon" to anyone else?


http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2010/04/29/r2_strip564.jpg/image_full

Ok, how about "Ceylon meets the Michelin Man" ?

[truthseekerdan]

"We live in a Newtonian world of Einsteinian physics ruled by Frankenstein logic."
-David Russell

http://www.saidaonline.com/en/newsgfx/discovery%20shuttle-saidaonline.jpg

[bashi]

A CME occurred just 4 hours ago and it seems the Giant Ribbon got some of his substance blown into space. As it is not facing Earth now, it should not be a problem.

[shadowstalker]

Don't doubt your accuracy or sincerity, Operator.

Re. NASA? I'm goin' with the monkey theory ;)
Fred

Operator, et al, re. RoboNaut 2 (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/29apr10_r2/);

Excuse my "TV culture ignorance" but... does this look like a "Ceylon" to anyone else?


http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2010/04/29/r2_strip564.jpg/image_full

Ok, how about "Ceylon meets the Michelin Man" ?

It reminds me of the movie "Black hole" When the scientist turn his crew into mindless downs to help work his ship at least the head part anyway.

[Bill Ryan]

A CME occurred just 4 hours ago and it seems the Giant Ribbon got some of his substance blown into space. As it is not facing Earth now, it should not be a problem.

Thanks - for readers who may be alarmed, CMEs happen all the time. Think of them a little like earthquakes. They also occur all the time, and many are so small we never feel them. It's only the giant ones that cause havoc.

It's the same with CMEs (Coronal Mass Ejections). The additional factor is that (as bashi says) the earth has to be in the firing line - AND it has to be a big one - in order for us to be affected. But this is exactly what did happen in 1859:

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/06may_carringtonflare

[sojorner]

Interesting Article...thanks

Soj

[Ahkenaten]

It will be interesting to see if the Shuttle goes up today as planned at about 3:30 Eastern Time.

[Operator]

It will be interesting to see if the Shuttle goes up today as planned at about 3:30 Eastern Time.

Nope: http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html

[Ahkenaten]

Thanks for the update operator....................even if this gets too interesting many of us have taken reasonable precautions without pushing the panic button.

[noxon medem]

- Stay away from the coast, is one of the basic survival messages
that is build into the video in opening post. To be safe, move north up in
the mountains (and sell your seaside property for whatever you can get ..)

Sincere and charmingly presented by Ed Dames from the start ,
- when he says: "Aloha, welcome to my home". On the beach.
He is as smooth as a real-estate agent. I wonder who he represents ..
- No matter the amount of tanning cream, something smells fishy here.

[pyrangello]

When i was in the air force 20+ years ago one of my sgt's told me whenever the space shuttle goes up watch whats going on in the world ..... Just something to ponder. My great uncle was one of the engineers who designed the space shuttles first engines. He said there were 8 guys who put that together. Long time ago.

Good stuff , lots of observations , I also have had more digitial disruptions with my satellite tv, just prepare for the worst and live your life to the best then let the chips fall where they may. Just don't live in fear. Thanks for all the comments, it's very helpful in staying educated on the goings on in the world.

[Fredkc]

Operator;
I just checked,
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html
Shuttle did not go up again.

New launch date is now Nov. 8th
Fred

[fifi]

Thank you all for keeping us informed of what's going on in the world, that is not reported in the MSM.

However, how can we stay in touch when internet is knocked-out?

[Fredkc]

However, how can we stay in touch when internet is knocked-out?

http://cdn.phonemag.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pigeon_camera2.jpg

Sorry, seems I am never more than a stone's throw from a cheap joke.

[fifi]

LOL. Keep your jokes coming, Fred. I really enjoy your posts.

[truthseekerdan]

http://cdn.phonemag.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pigeon_camera2.jpg

Sorry, seems I am never more than a stone's throw from a cheap joke.

Cute penguin... Oh, my bad, pigeon :wink:

[Swami]

UFO Discovery STS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY7mwpoGYvA

[Operator]

UFO Discovery STS

That's interesting ... postponed again until at least Nov. 30
The Columbia was allegedly 'shot' out of the air by UFO's .... in the payload they had military stuff.

This time they have R2 as payload ... together with X37 unmanned flights it gets weirder and weirder ....
It looks like someone else does not accept some stuff we bring up there ...

(Be reminded that UFO's do not equal ET's per se ... ;))

[bashi]

I am back from the woods.
The effect of the 0611 timeline has been changed.
I think the postponement of the StS 133 flight is the key to it.
Was it caused by intervention from above? The vid posted by Swami suggests this.

Still on 6th the sun had it's day:

"Active sunspot 1121 has unleashed one of the brightest x-ray solar flares in years, an M5.4-class eruption at 15:36 UT on Nov. 6th"

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=11&day=07&year=2010&view=view

A huge flare, but no CME. Again an intervention?

[Swami]

I am back from the woods.
The effect of the 0611 timeline has been changed.
I think the postponement of the StS 133 flight is the key to it.
Was it caused by intervention from above? The vid posted by Swami suggests this.

Still on 6th the sun had it's day:

"Active sunspot 1121 has unleashed one of the brightest x-ray solar flares in years, an M5.4-class eruption at 15:36 UT on Nov. 6th"

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=11&day=07&year=2010&view=view

A huge flare, but no CME. Again an intervention?

I think them spheres around the sun are put there by our friends from "out there" to help us during The change of cycles.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeQ_S8G16Rw

[bashi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeQ_S8G16Rw


well, not everything is for everybody.

[Fredkc]

Nope! Didn't go up again.

Mission: STS-133
Date: Nov. 30

Schedule change. didn't hear daily excuse tho. sorry
Fred

[Carrera]

Discovery has taken off.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html



I would also mention this: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2000%20PN9;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orbJPL

-An object is coming towards Earth (passing) and will be at it's closest to Earth on March 11th. I have not found an explanation to what this is; but there are several youtube-videos about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lQQMZSucb8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTsFtQKLDxE&feature=related

[Carrera]

:bump: Reason: Might be important........ :behindsofa:

[Tuza]

:bump: Reason: Might be important........ :behindsofa:

Aaah, this is where I found your youtube quote for the other thread Carrera, oh yes, NASA dont do anything that costs a lot of money for no reason.

[bluestflame]

isn't this what Bill and Kerry were working on shortly before Bill was approached by "charles"

about the D.U.M.B.s

http://projectcamelot.org/norway_update.html

http://projectcamelot.org/norway.html

[aikya]

I remembered reading that March 11, is also the date, according to some, on which unity consciousness will begin. I just did a google search on it and came across this article. I don't know this astrologer, so forgive me for quoting him here, but I found what he had to say intriguing:



The greatest revolution in human history begins March 11th, 2011 with the planet Uranus' entrance into the constellation of Aries. This is a pinnacle moment in human history that will come to be known as the Revolution of Consciousness. Unlike revolutions of old, this revolution will be centered in the hearts and minds of the men, women, and children that inhabit the planet Earth. What is about to unfold is nothing less than the most brilliant period of not only our lifetimes, but of all lifetimes - and it starts in just a few short weeks!

The first 'shot' of this revolution will be a metaphysical one, fired from a Divinely awakened quantum gateway in the heart of the Milky Way Galaxy. This gateway will unleash powerful, higher-dimensional energy that has never before been felt on Earth. This radical new energy will totally immerse the planet, affecting an instant evolution of consciousness in the spiritually awakened; a quantum leap of the mind that has never before been experienced on Earth.

As we journey closer and closer to the 2012 event horizon, this spectacular cosmic event serves as a crucial step in mankind's ascension and acceptance of the realities of the higher dimensional nature of existence. This galactic gateway that will soon open is comparable to the concept of a 'wormhole' in that it will serve as a channel to higher octave energy sourced from the 8th dimension. The 8th dimension is that of unity consciousness, or simply put, God's consciousness. This energy is the essence behind the events that will soon come to pass. God's unity consciousness will soon begin to flourish in us all.

This new level of consciousness, sourced from God, is of course universal in nature. As such, it will provide the foundation for the acceptance of extraterrestrial life, which brings us to a major aspect of what the upcoming Uranus transit entails: mainstream acceptance of extraterrestrial life. Humanity will soon become intimately aware that not only does extraterrestrial life exist, but it has been influencing events on Earth for quite some time. This singular aspect of the coming Uranus transit alone is enough to exact an instant, global, paradigm shift, and that is exactly the nature of this transit's energy: instant paradigm shift.

Mainstream acceptance of extraterrestrial life will instantly shatter paradigms of the past and create a new way of thinking and feeling in us all. We will no longer accept the artificially-maintained status quo that we have for so long. Exotic new technologies will begin to go public as if a science fiction movie had become reality. Free energy technology will be a major part of this, as well as revolutionary advances in medicine, agriculture, communications, computer sciences, optics, magnetics, and terraforming. This technology will transform the way we live and interact with one another forever.


Full article: http://www.tokenrock.com/read-Uranus-in-Aries-The-Revolution-of-Consciousness-975.html

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Let me ask you all one simple question folks.what do you do to prepare for anything of such scale when you simply have no extra cash WHATSOEVER and live from paycheck to paycheck like many people out there do,including myself i mean seriously what do you do when your on that boat?

You need to have a little faith and trust and I know it isn't easy considering all the dark we've experienced ~ even when you can't see the light ~ you've got to know that a higher power is out there ~ call it what you may ~ and that no matter what ~ you are okay. This Space Shuttle bothers me. I am an empath and can pick up on vibes that clearly are disturbing. I watch the changes in the sun daily but feel like vomiting when I get notices from NASA about the shuttle videos. Something is amiss. I think this is overreach on the part of NASA and the powers that be and that the Shuttle mission will not be completed for reasons other than those mentioned in this thread.

There are a dozen or more U.S. death ray manned space stations above the earth ~ these stations are being taken out one by one by celestial forces. Earth is being disarmed and there is absolutely nothing Space Command et al ~ can do about it ~ these are last ditch efforts at work here. While it is possible we may be inconvenienced for a very short time ~ the gloom and doom aspect is fantasy that cannot come to pass. Laugh if you want, we are under Divine Intervention at this time and there is nothing to fear. Those who die for any reason go to the Fifth dimension ~ while the rest of us must really work hard to help Earth ascend in order to go along with her and be able to ascend, too. Ascension is what we came for and it's happening now. The constant reincarnation, enslavement gig is over and done. Earth is ascending and a new life beckons. Keep your eye on that goal ; ) xoxox

[Fredkc]

isn't this what Bill and Kerry were working on shortly before Bill was approached by "charles"
about the D.U.M.B.s

http://projectcamelot.org/norway_update.html
http://projectcamelot.org/norway.html

Actually, what he was on the trail of when he was approached was Credo Mutwa, and the artifact.
Notice how the topic went away?
Fred

[Rocky_Shorz]

isn't this what Bill and Kerry were working on shortly before Bill was approached by "charles"

about the D.U.M.B.s

http://projectcamelot.org/norway_update.html

http://projectcamelot.org/norway.html

I thought it was uncovering the Vatican...

[Fredkc]

Nope.
Credo

Who could still use some help recovering the artifact. :)

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UrF8XSGr1Yg/0.jpg

[johnf]

I'm not someone who gets prophecies or any clear messages, but I get a lot of intuitive nudges and feeling type insights.
A couple of weeks ago I clearly got the date march 10th in my minds eye, with just feelings of clarity and peace.
I have been in a rough place for about 2 years off and on and I came out of the fog of all that right before this happened.
Then I started seeing videos, posts on this forum etc about the 9th wave. So .. I don't sense any bad news here.
the other thing is it is pretty close to now. So if I am wrong, GOODYE EVERYBODY!!!! I WILL MISS YOU!!!!!!

[norman]

isn't this what Bill and Kerry were working on shortly before Bill was approached by "charles"

about the D.U.M.B.s

http://projectcamelot.org/norway_update.html

http://projectcamelot.org/norway.html

I thought it was uncovering the Vatican...

I really don't think it was about what they were sticking their noses into. I think it was about the way they were a perfect match for covering each other's backs.

Bills greatest vulnerability was protected by Kerry's greatest strength.

Kerry's greatest vulnerability was protected by Bill's greatest strength.

We have been fobbed off with the idea that splitting them up was creating twice the problem. That's BO***CKS!.

Splitting them up was the only way into their weaknesses. ( the haste to get Kerry out of Bills frame is obvious and almost got her killed, but I doubt it was about her, more about an interest in 'working' on Bill, if they could )

I hope both Bill and Kerry can SEE! that now, and get past it and grow above it.

That photo from Phoenix certainly gives me a good feeling it's getting fixed.

[Operator]

next mission: STS-134 ... April 19th (or later)

According to Ian Crane April 19th is the day of sacrifice by fire (http://www.scribd.com/doc/32034412/Gulf-Oil-Disaster-and-April-19th-20th) ... in 2010 the explosion on the Deep Water Horizon was on April 20th another favorite occult date: Hitler's birthday.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Bill has always said since the beginning they are good friends regardless of differences in opinion...

Most of her worries will disappear after Charles lays out the plans...

[granny]

next mission: STS-134 ... April 19th (or later)

According to Ian Crane April 19th is the day of sacrifice by fire (http://www.scribd.com/doc/32034412/Gulf-Oil-Disaster-and-April-19th-20th) ... in 2010 the explosion on the Deep Water Horizon was on April 20th another favorite occult date: Hitler's birthday.

Yes ... eyebrows went up when I saw that occult date ... are we surprised? NASA loves those dates.

[bitworm]

March 11 you say?

http://i52.tinypic.com/2zg55xl.jpg

[Tenzin]

I have an observation, would this be possible?

There have been claims of the recent Japanese Earthquake being planned, and wikileaks revealed that the Japanese government knew about the problems.

Ed comes in, knowing that WILL happen. Bam! It did, and he gains a horde of believers.

Next, he gives out locations where people can be safe for the next big one. Maybe another hit, and bam, right on target; he gains huge media appeal.

In the meantime, his DVDs for RV, are freely available for download throughout the sharing network worldwide, and guess what? UK servers.

Then he predicts his US shuttle thingy. And this shuttle is owned by NASA. Who believes NASA anyway? He probably already know they are going to down it with a fake report.

Now everyone is worshipping him.

Listening to his advice, everyone are staying in their bunkers thinking they will be safe, while the elites horde into the underground cities, laughing heartily while they get ready to harvest more 'souls'.

Killshot comes along, however it will be, but who cares now?

Mission accomplished.

Humans 0
Elites 99

[Peacelovinman]

isn't this what Bill and Kerry were working on shortly before Bill was approached by "charles"
about the D.U.M.B.s

http://projectcamelot.org/norway_update.html
http://projectcamelot.org/norway.html

Actually, what he was on the trail of when he was approached was Credo Mutwa, and the artifact.
Notice how the topic went away?
Fred

Charles certainly has been a distraction for many on this forum, including Bill?