Mind Control - Inflicting Fear and Inflicting Pleasure

[Tony]

Mind Control - Inflicting Fear and Inflicting Pleasure

It's interesting that two books from the past - George Orwell's “1984” and Aldous Huxley's “Brave New World” warn us of mind control through inflicting fear and inflicting pleasure.*

Funnily enough, someone else from the past warned us of these two mind control mechanisms 2500 years ago...
The Buddha!

There are, in fact, three aspects that create veils in our minds – Desire, Fear and Ignorance. Just look at the world today: parts are controlled by wars and heavy handed authorities, and parts obsessed with their personal pleasures. Demonic forces know about our own neurotic minds and are using this knowledge against us. Like attracts like.

And what of ignorance? While we are so involved with our desires and fears, we become distracted and therefore ignore our powerful, natural qualities: pure essence, cognisant nature and unconfined compassion.

Mind control is using the Buddha's teachings on the neurotic mind against us:

A superficial understanding of the Buddha's teaching may indicate that we are controlled by these neurotic states, and therefore they can be used against us. However, the controllers do not realise (because they are not practitioners) that the Buddha also revealed the antidote and direct realisation of how to dissolve the three poisons Desire, Fear and Ignorance into wisdoms.

These three poisons are a distortion of our three innate wisdoms - pure essence, cognisant nature and unconfined compassion. Our first nature is wisdom, but because we cling to a strong illusory self identity, these wisdoms turned into selfish poisons. The more we enhance our self created identity, the more we enhance our mental illnesses. The more we react, the more we can be controlled!


Buddha has always known
that the only way to address
the illusory impurities
that control the neurotic mind
is to recognise our Buddha nature
beyond desire, fear and ignorance.






*Their books are still available and the films are available on youtube, although of poor quality.




Tony

[birddog]

I would never use the word pleasure with mind control. Not everyone can be controled with those devices....momentary snippets of time, perhaps, where they seem to put words in your mouth, but one can recover quickly and correct this. One has to recognize that, with the momentary confusion that comes with the transmission of this information outside of the body, one has to stop, pause, and think, and this gives time for the confusion to pass, and one is free to continue with his own thoughts.

When faced with these challenges, one has to learn to ask ones self the question..."Would I say this?" If the answer is no, then let these words go by, and ignore them. We can fight back with mind control. They can plant thoughts, words, pictures, and phrases, but we don't have to 'own them'. 'Think'....this is what they don't want you to do.

[Omni]

I would never use the word pleasure with mind control. Not everyone can be controled with those devices....momentary snippets of time, perhaps, where they seem to put words in your mouth, but one can recover quickly and correct this. One has to recognize that, with the momentary confusion that comes with the transmission of this information outside of the body, one has to stop, pause, and think, and this gives time for the confusion to pass, and one is free to continue with his own thoughts.
Experiencing overt mind control first hand shows me this is false. I don't think you understand fully what the capabilities are. They have the ability to control every mechanic in the mind. So essentially getting the thought that it is not your own thought is impossible at times. That takes a certain firing of neurons or w/e in the brain, and those can be negated.

It is a common misconception that the mind controllers just insert thoughts into minds and hope the people latch onto them. It is much more sophisticated than that. However they are not allowed via exopolitics to control a mind indefinitely against that persons true soul nature. So deprogramming is possible. Without that rule in exopolitics IMO mind control would be unstoppable.

Probably not what people want to hear, and I might make people dislike me or something by saying this truth. But I feel obligated to clear up misinformation when I see it(when the conditions are right)...


However, the controllers do not realise (because they are not practitioners) that the Buddha also revealed the antidote and direct realisation of how to dissolve the three poisons Desire, Fear and Ignorance into wisdoms.
Honestly if they weren't aware of it you just told them. But I find that false too. They are definitely aware of all of buddha's teachings. And their AI is what knows it more than their operatives. All it has to do is observe people practicing these things and monitor all forms of mechanics pertaining to that person...

[birddog]

"Experiencing overt mind control first hand shows me this is false. I don't think you understand fully what the capabilities are. They have the ability to control every mechanic in the mind. So essentially getting the thought that it is not your own thought is impossible at times. That takes a certain firing of neurons or w/e in the brain, and those can be negated."

Hi Omni, Respectfully, since I have about 50 implants within my own body, I can fully experience what kind of control mechanisms that these black ops use. In addition, they never ever leave my presence physically. There are in stealth mode most of the time, and when I go out into public, such as into stores, there are physical agents all around. I can recognize them by how they follow me, even when I change directions, and divert my course.

I do know that mind control works different in different people, as we are not all the same..some of us have other-worldly
abilities that help to fight them off. I am not new to this, and they have been with me since 2003, when the perps found me and tried to kill me when they shot me in the back of the head with one of their weapons as I lay, pretending to be asleep.
I felt the air go through my head, but I was unhurt. I lay still, pretending to be asleep....and the perp thought that I was dead, and left. That was the first of many times.

I am not aware of Buddha's teachings, but I know Jesus, Mother Mary, and the Galactic Confederation of Planets on a personal level. My knowledge is from experience. The perps around me know this too, as they also have seen the ships and some of the members of the Federation appear when they were about to harm me or take me off-world.

The Federation gave me a message years ago to tell those that I was in contact with at the time...."to advance the timeline."
This was the answer to a problem they were having that the world didn't know about. Then this and other knowledge that I had prompted them to think that I was an agent, spying on them. That is why they tried to kill me the first time. The last time was this morning when I lay sleeping, as they shot me in the top of the head, with the gun pointing down in the center of my head. Then, they told me, "We can't kill you."

I assure you, that I am not without knowledge or experience of the matters that I speak of, Omni. You speak as if you know, but I say to you that you do not know. Either you are confused, or you seek to confuse. I believe the latter. One only has to look at your title "Mind Control- Inflicting Fear and Inflicting Pleasure". I assure you that it is only the controllers who think that the sexual implants that they put into people under their MKULTRA directives inflict pleasure. NO VICTIM derives any pleasure from the forced electronic stimulation of these implants. I feel that you Omni, have revealed yourself by your own words. Sign me one of the victims...I do know what I am speaking about.

[Omni]

Hi Omni, Respectfully, since I have about 50 implants within my own body, I can fully experience what kind of control mechanisms that these black ops use. In addition, they never ever leave my presence physically. There are in stealth mode most of the time, and when I go out into public, such as into stores, there are physical agents all around. I can recognize them by how they follow me, even when I change directions, and divert my course.
No offense but I believe you are being mind controlled to believe physical agents are all around. Gangstalking from my research is mainly innocent people being mind controlled to go out along their business at the same time as the person being gangstalked. Very few are actually "in on it".


I do know that mind control works different in different people, as we are not all the same..some of us have other-worldly
abilities that help to fight them off. I am not new to this, and they have been with me since 2003, when the perps found me and tried to kill me when they shot me in the back of the head with one of their weapons as I lay, pretending to be asleep.
I felt the air go through my head, but I was unhurt. I lay still, pretending to be asleep....and the perp thought that I was dead, and left. That was the first of many times.
These groups have the ability to track your heartbeat. Again, I find evidence your mind is being tampered with while you experience these things.


I am not aware of Buddha's teachings, but I know Jesus, Mother Mary, and the Galactic Confederation of Planets on a personal level.
More evidence you are being manipulated. Jesus is a soul like us IMO. He is not some transcendant God figure. Mother mary the same IMO.


My knowledge is from experience.
So is mine. We must be careful about judging our own experiences I have learned. I have had so many illusions thrown my way. One illusion they love doing is making people think they can beat mind control, by providing mind control, and once they hit a certain trigger, they stop the mind control. Thus fooling that individual of a cure to it, and establishing a thoughtform that they are immune to mind control in ways(the desired state of one aware of mind control). As well as propagating disinformation about such. People have been fooled of all sorts of things. Like Jesus stops it, God stops it, copper stops it(copper is indeed great though i must say, but does not make one immune at all), Mohammed stops it, ghosts of family members stops it. The list goes on and on. They are all illusions IMO.


That is why they tried to kill me the first time. The last time was this morning when I lay sleeping, as they shot me in the top of the head, with the gun pointing down in the center of my head. Then, they told me, "We can't kill you."
What is stopping them from causing a heart attack? Or simply shooting you with a gun? Or getting you into a fatal car accident. Sorry but I find you are full of illusions, like most TIs. They certainly can kill you unless there is a exopolitical decree against such.


Either you are confused, or you seek to confuse. I believe the latter.
So I'm an agent of TPTB? Kind of rich that one is..........


One only has to look at your title "Mind Control- Inflicting Fear and Inflicting Pleasure". I assure you that it is only the controllers who think that the sexual implants that they put into people under their MKULTRA directives inflict pleasure. NO VICTIM derives any pleasure from the forced electronic stimulation of these implants. I feel that you Omni, have revealed yourself by your own words. Sign me one of the victims...I do know what I am speaking about.
You obviously and conclusively do not know what you are speaking about. Proof is that I did not start this thread. So the title is irrelevant...

[Tony]

Nice juicy reaction from the ego, that's want they like.

In comfy-land we pleasure ourselves all day long.
In terrorised-land we fear all day long.

We can read the words, but the words are not genuine experience.
Mind training is training our own mind, not letting others do it for us.

All fantasies are games placed in the mind. We have no original thoughts.
The true nature of mind is merely the silent witness.

Tony

[birddog]

I am not controlled at all, but I see now that you did not start this thread. I am sorry, and stand corrected for saying that, but I hold fast in my belief that no one would take pleasure in any of those implants, as they are truly torture devices when one fights them.

The fact the I can see my perps from time to time, whether in stealth mode or not shows me that they are here. Their stealth planes use to land at my house in Ohio and were seen and reported by some of the neighbors, as it was a residential neighborhood. I had 7 acres of land and they would be there every day about 4pm. They were noticed as some of them took off very fast and left a trail of exhaust that was easy to see.

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Speak for yourself, Tony. I like to think for myself. "Thinking" is something that the new world order does not want us to do.

[Omni]

I am not controlled at all, but I see now that you did not start this thread. I am sorry, and stand corrected for saying that, but I hold fast in my belief that no one would take pleasure in any of those implants, as they are truly torture devices when one fights them.
What about the operatives themselves? They certainly get enjoyment out of their implants and technology... This technology is a double edged sword. It can provide enjoyment as well as torture...



The fact the I can see my perps from time to time, whether in stealth mode or not shows me that they are here. Their stealth planes use to land at my house in Ohio and were seen and reported by some of the neighbors, as it was a residential neighborhood. I had 7 acres of land and they would be there every day about 4pm. They were noticed as some of them took off very fast and left a trail of exhaust that was easy to see.

Sorry but exhaust coming from a ship with no thrusters just seems odd O.o The ships the US government has had for decades do not emit exhaust. They do not consume fossil fuels at all... Free energy and all.... I'm trying to imagine a UFO with a muffler, and I can't help but find that situation comical. Could it be clouds or something similar they are emiting by flying through it?

[aheb]

In the UK we have a mind control programme on the TV actually called "Big Brother". It contains a disproportionate amount of minorities such as imigrant,homosexuals, transvestites etc although they haven't gotten around to paedophiles yet.but give them time.
It is carefully edited to show how you " should behave" as a good sheep..the greatest mind control method however is often not discussed and is part of magic/conjouring and that is assumption.........in the same way we assume that a deck of cards is as it appears ( When is might be double backed or marked) we assume that we know what money is, that politicians are acting for the greater good, that there are actually threats against us that we are being protected from.

[birddog]

Omni, the perps want to keep me forever...through many lifetimes. Their is a cloning process, and they claim that they can transfer the soul from one body to another. Sorry, for the mixup. But truly only a perp would think that implants by the nwo
give any pleasure. When you fight them, they cause intense pain. I have told them that I will die rather than be controlled.
I prefer to stay and help with whatever the nwo throws at us. They think think that God is dead but they are going to find out
differently.

[Omni]

But truly only a perp would think that implants by the nwo
give any pleasure.
They can synthesize pain signals, as well as things like orgasms with technology. There are many great feeling things that can be done with technology. I have experienced many...

And I must say calling Tony and I perps is a tad distasteful. I have been tortured hundreds of thousands of times and have very little money. Hardly the life of a "perp". More illusions from you. I'm almost certain you are being mind controlled. Especially if you have a personal relationship with a transcendant god figure claiming to be Jesus...

[gardener2]

hello omniverse you know I respect your wisdom but, give this birddog a chance he or she is speaking from the heart and I feel has some knowledge which maybe we could all benefit from we are here as was my thinking to help one another, it is not a competition of who is right or wrong or more advanced than the other, WE NEED EACH OTHER. So lets just try to treat everyone with respect we are all in this together, I have experiences which I keep to myself for this very reason. Gardener 2

[birddog]

Omni, there was a white smoky exhaust coming from one of the planes at my home as he took off in mid air. The plane had a large fan like thing underneath of it, and it could do manuvers that I had never see a plane do. It excelled upwards very fast, and I have seen a lot of jets take off.

I can't tell you to believe in Jesus. Only you control you. You believe what you want. I saw Jesus years ago before the perps knew anything about me. He came to me and gave me many seeds that floated into my heart. Years later, it was told to me that they were gifts (of the spirit).

I am fully human, but my abilities come from God. I will not be used for anything but the highest good for all. I am not perfect, as I make mistakes. I apologise for calling you and Tony a perp. I have been tortured often lately, and I was miffed at the title, as any TI would be.

However, Omni, you said that I said things that were false, and the only thing that was false was you starting the forum and
that you and the one who started the forum I believed to be a perp. I am sorry for that....Beyond that, I agree to disagree with you. :)

[Cidersomerset]

This article was on Davids site......

Mind Control: Orwell, Huxley, and Today’s Reality

Saturday 6th September 2014 at 06:30 By david-icke


http://www.zengardner.com/wp-content/uploads/world-brain1-602x6401.jpg


‘In 1984, George Orwell paints a picture of a dark, gray world. People are afraid
to say anything contrary to the official party line, and surveillance is universal.
Even thinking contrary to the party is a crime, and thoughtcrimes may be treated
by radical psychological intervention. Information is closely controlled by the party
media, and the historical record is routinely edited, so as to conform to the latest
party statements.

By contrast, in Brave New World, Aldous Huxley paints a colorful, superficially
pleasant world. Personal freedom of all kinds is encouraged, even to the point of
being a cultural imperative. In the book a young boy is referred to a therapist,
because he doesn’t want to play sex games with a girl classmate. An adult character
is considered aberrant, because he is drawn toward a monogamous relationship.
Drugs and distractions are readily available for mood enhancement.’

Read more: Mind Control: Orwell, Huxley, and Today’s Reality


http://www.zengardner.com/mind-control-orwell-huxley-todays-reality/

[Tony]

We Consent to Play in The Devil's Temple

Buddhism's primary aim is to recognise suffering and the cause of suffering, which is ignorance of
our true nature of unconditional happiness. However, we must also recognise that there are outside forces who,
consciously and deliberately, influence us. This is sometimes difficult to comprehend, as we have been
brought up and programmed in this insidious system of social engineering; we are all too ready to conform.

Edward Bernays has been cited as the inventor of the consumerist culture that was designed primarily to
target people’s self-image (or lack thereof) in order to turn a 'want' into a 'need'.
Bernays wrote in his 1928 book, Propaganda, that “propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government”:
the power behind the throne to influence the masses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st-_31zYFDw

What can we do about this? We need to loosen the grip on the supposed, idealised reality we've adopted -
the reality of the “the executive arm of the invisible government” - by perceiving its effect on all of us.

Even though our suffering is due to our own ignorance of our true nature, we first have to recognise that we are
imprisoned by this external illusory programming which we consent to maintain at every milli-moment:
it's hard to shake off the veil of conformity.

We choose the maintenance of the familiar over the maintenance of recognition of our true nature.
This programmed conformity can creep into temples of any kind.

Better the Devil you know,
than the Devil you don't!


Tony

[Agape]

It could remind people how old is the subject of mind controls .. in human society and how crucial it 's always been to address it .

The majority of human populace who live in dynamically evolving societies are never fully aware of and how they're mind hacked, through multiple levels of controls , from food to education to entertainment ,
all of these mechanisms range from subtle to gross , physical controls in place . Sure, there's no 'Big Brother' sitting at the top of the pyramid watching your daily activities but there always existed the option he can .
The level of 'personal paranoia' varies from the type of society you live in, people surrounding you , watching you or not .

The only difference we get in technically evolved societies is the level of entrainment turning more sophisticated ,
or it seems to be .. more sophisticated pain and pleasure, more complicated illnesses , sufferings, so also the way 'out of the controls' and 'away from suffering' looks more complicated .
The chains go deeper .

But where Buddha is concerned , I think he himself agreed that 'his teachings are not 'his teachings'' . There's nothing like 'Buddhas teachings apart from certain subtle observations being pronounced by him' ,
if they hold true ..and they do.. they were repeated by many people before and also after Buddha . They're 'repeatable experiments' . That's why Buddhism is close to science and modern psychology even if it shares many facets with other 'religious traditions' ,
for it tries to explain why mind works the way it does rather than claiming something and asking you to believe it .

There's big amount of natural emotional charge .. in everyone , in this 'western society' we are hardly aware of .. it comes with upbringing .. if you are and want to remain successful member of your society,
questioning the depth of your atunement s sort of tabu - the same - only bit more sophisticated tabu than the one used by primitive societies to keep their members entangled .

The same 'emotional charge' , inherited from your fathers and mothers , can be used anytime to manipulate individual behaviour .

Anything that becomes 'unsuspectedly disagreeable' or 'agreeable' on the other hand can not be used as mind control . Once you discover where the trick is and agree with yourself that you won't fall for the same trap again,
you are free to go .
The only reason keeping you somewhere , some place in life .. is faith . Faith in certain benefits, or principles you believe to be greater than you are , and fear there's no life out there ..

Explaining about 'life out there' to mouse born in a cage , or parrot who never saw a jungle or your dog of breed who shares very little if any survival instincts with his canine ancestors is almost impossible .

That's why in future it will be even more difficult for many people to grasp the concept of 'freedom' and understand old masters .



:ufo:

[gardener2]

Hello Birddog I am sorry if omniverse offended you but he would not intend to be offensive he also speaks from his truth just as we all have our truths which we are allowed if we choose to speak our truths. Kind of reluctant to put this out but, I was also visited by jesus when I was 12 yrs old the whole experience led me on the path of where I am now, I am not ready to tell this story in case of, I wont say disbelief as I learned from C G jUNG THAT EITHER YOU KNOW OR YOU DONT KNOW, belief is a system that I personally don't get into, however like you I had the most amazing visit, and that is something I can only share on a personal level, hey but please let us respect each other, we are here simply to discuss each other's heart felt truth and it's ok if we don't agree. Gardener 2 x

[SPIRIT WOLF]

In the UK we have a mind control programme on the TV actually called "Big Brother". It contains a disproportionate amount of minorities such as imigrant,homosexuals, transvestites etc although they haven't gotten around to paedophiles yet.but give them time.
It is carefully edited to show how you " should behave" as a good sheep..the greatest mind control method however is often not discussed and is part of magic/conjouring and that is assumption.........in the same way we assume that a deck of cards is as it appears ( When is might be double backed or marked) we assume that we know what money is, that politicians are acting for the greater good, that there are actually threats against us that we are being protected from.

In 2000 the first Big Brother aired, it was a social experiment with very ordinary normal regular people, this formula carried on to Big Brother 4 with normal everday folk as housemates. It started to go wrong with BB5 and yes started to waiver all over the show with lets say more 'colorful' housemates. But its still an interesting show and has a celebrity version (if you can call some of them actual celebs LOL)No longer is it a true social experiment which is a shame.

[Sidney]

I just want to chime in. It has been my experience(over seven yrs now) that they do indeed remote control anyone they wish. I see myself as a game piece as are all who surround me, people i know, and people i dont know. They control anyone to do anything. I have seen a pattern the last three places i lived. Different people, exact same type scenarios.
I used to think the whole damm town must be in on it. But i now know, that random people can be taken over, either remotely, or something "steps in" and takes over to get a task done.
My last three homes have been non secure, meaning they come and go from my residence as they please. My surveillance cameras, disabled each time so i cannot get proof. They take nothing, but they want me to know they were here, to simply keep the fear and paranoia going. I also believe possible the interdimensionals that i got on video were holographic, although the jury ist still out on that one.
We live in an electronic techno matrix. One giant electronic rabbit hole.

[Tony]

As long as our pure awareness identifies so strongly with a self-image a me me me, we can be controlled.
Paranoia-irrationally anxious, suspicious, mistrustful, distrustful, fearful, insecure...which is what the “I” is all about.

"Edward Bernays has been cited as the inventor of the consumerist culture that was designed primarily to
target people’s self-image (or lack thereof) in order to turn a 'want' into a 'need'."

Until we can understand that the mind can be made to believe anything, we will NOT be in control.
I have been sent information about "Gang stalking" this too can make someone paranoid and fuel the fire of conspiracy.

Stand right back from reactions, and see if you are in control, or the reactions are!


Tony

[loungelizard]

Tony - the way I'm reading your OP, you're referring to the way in which we are vulnerable to "mind control" because of our obsession with our self image. Because of this we are susceptible to the effects of fear and desire - and our first step is to acknowledge this, and then perhaps we can do something about
it :rolleyes:

My mum always used to claim that she was a free spirit, and she wasn't affected by advertising...and that's precisely how "they" got to her!

We all want a pleasant, comfortable life if we're honest. That can either be sold to us with the promise of dreams fulfilled...or we can be threatened with having it taken away. Desire and fear.

[Agape]

Tony - the way I'm reading your OP, you're referring to the way in which we are vulnerable to "mind control" because of our obsession with our self image. Because of this we are susceptible to the effects of fear and desire - and our first step is to acknowledge this, and then perhaps we can do something about
it :rolleyes:

My mum always used to claim that she was a free spirit, and she wasn't affected by advertising...and that's precisely how "they" got to her!

We all want a pleasant, comfortable life if we're honest. That can either be sold to us with the promise of dreams fulfilled...or we can be threatened with having it taken away. Desire and fear.


This is one of the weaknesses of Buddhism ..as much as of every other 'mind theory' including various modern 'western psychology' trends of 20th century ,
where too much stress is put on subjectivity of individual experience and such relativity-subjectivity , and lack of any objectivity for the matter of fact is regarded as a clue to ones own redemption.

The fact is .. we are all vulnerable by definition. Being aware of your vulnerability is a strength , being unaware ..itself is weakness .
Everything in human life is subtle balance between weak and strong forces . There are no invincible forces , people or theories .

'Mind doctrines' - many of them at least - are like perpetuum mobile , they're self-explanatory to the point where they always offer a solution to a problem that avoids reality change . That's a weakness . In reality, both types of solutions have to be considered ,
one may be better than the other in individual cases but usually it's both sides of the physical and mental continuum that require changing .

Buddhist teachings go very deep in reminding us what we really don't want to hear ,

it's probably that way as well .. a teaching you can listen to for hours, are comfortable with .. is not a real teaching . It may be a poem or a novel .

True teaching - especially when it gets down to personal level - that's where all genuine teachers taught - may feel quite uncomfy because it reminds you of things we refuse to be aware of . It may be healing at the same time .

But it's not what can be forced ..truth ..or a teaching ..to have a meaning .. has to be requested by individual .. and given from kind heart .

I always see how many peoples fates could have been spared if they received enough information and instruction on the nature of mind n reality beforehand . Perhaps they'd never agreed to be victims .

[Tony]

The Buddha's teachings are not the truth.
The experience of the teachings is.



Tony