Judging Others

[Omni]

Being judgmental of other people....... Judging people because their appearance: clothes, hair, voice, skin color, or even on forums, a thought that entered their mind. We are not defined by the thoughts that enter our mind. We are not defined by our physical appearance. yet so many people judge others purely based on one look.

I guess we are defined by what we stand for in ways. If I had the resources I would help the homeless. I just don't have those resources. Can barely afford to keep myself fed, and don't have transportation, so that is something I can't really do as there are no homeless in the town where i live(that Ive seen).

Every time I have heard the philosophy that judging others is quite a bad thing to do, I have gained from it again.

"Judging others is quite a delusional sense of reality." - Telepathic Contact of Mine

ETs told me every person on the planet is delusional, those who are not delusional with the structure of reality in terms of our culture, planet, the role we have, and what effects us, etc, are delusional in judging others. Nobody is free from delusion from my observations so I think what they told me very well could be true. Disillusionment is indeed something we all gain from working on IMHO.

Like all things(have yet to find something that isn't), it is dualistic in nature. Positive judgments of others are a good thing for the most part IMO. Negative judgments are often quite delusional...

So, heres to judging people less. And being less delusional as well...

[Tesseract]

This is one of the tenets of Christianity, and a very wise one at that. I notice so often people don't afford others much respect simply because they are from a different background - it's a kind of judgement.

Thinking about my own ways, I certainly do judge people on major issues. Not sure how to avoid doing that while at the same time trying to address the perceived wrongdoing. Judgment of others is fundamental to modern democracy. If you want your side to win (and therefore affect the changes you desire in the world) then it makes sense to encourage harsh judgment of your opponent and favourable judgment of your preferred candidate or party.

[Omni]

Judgment of others is fundamental to modern democracy.
This might be a big reason why democracy doesn't work so well. In America people's judgment on average is pretty poor from what I've seen. Maybe people being open to extraterrestrials existing or not has swayed my opinion on that though. Hard for me to respect someone's discernment if they say ETs cannot exist... Or another, that they couldn't get here...

[lunaflare]

Hey Omni...judgments are opinions as far as I can determine...beliefs...perspectives...

one could even venture to say that you have made one here from your prior post

In America people's judgment on average is pretty poor from what I've seen.

Seems these traits are part of being human and can assist us in making choices and decisions.
Turning the other cheek again and again can result in being trodden upon (can also make one extremely dizzy).
In my opinion/judgement/discernment...

[Omni]

one could even venture to say that you have made one here from your prior post

In America people's judgment on average is pretty poor from what I've seen.

Judging an entire person is different than judging someone's discernment.


Seems these traits are part of being human and can assist us in making choices and decisions.

If it is done right, I agree.
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Turning the other cheek again and again can result in being trodden upon (can also make one extremely dizzy).
In my opinion/judgement/discernment...
This isn't what I meant by not judging others. Most if not all things are dualistic in nature. Judging others can also be done in a healthy good way from my perspective as well.

[Apulu]

I feel this topic is a really important one, and one quite badly over-looked, quite often, in the realms of alternative media and spirituality.

I think it's perfectly possible to avoid harmful, controlling, even psychopathic behavior, without judging the behavior. I don't have a tendency for quoting from what the one known as Jesus is supposed to have said, but one of the quotes attributed to him that I like is "One must be as harmless as a dove, and as shrewd as a snake".

I think this hints at the idea that allowing oneself to be trodden on is not cool, but does not mean you need to 'judge' the person doing the stomping. When it's said one person is 'judging' another's behavior, it's often meant that the behavior is judged to be 'wrong', ain't it? This debate quickly gets into a giant ethical mess at this point, a lot of the time it seems, and I wholeheartedly believe the whole thing can be boiled down to this:

Someone is either acting from ego, or they are not. There's obviously a discernment to be made there. Is it 'wrong' to act from ego? Nope. Is it desirable? Depends. That's surely a choice anyone is entitled to make, even if the consequences one persons actions, or a group of people, are deemed to be truly awful by the vast majority of people. And there sure will be an abundance of horrible choices being made, no matter what we do. So I think the only power we have sometimes, is whether we judge the horrible behavior as 'wrong', or whether we simply judge it as something we would not choose, and would not choose for anyone else either.

'But what if you need to take action against someone's horrible behavior to avoid being killed, harmed, trodden on!?' I hear the person who's not willing to accept this stance say. Then do it! Still doesn't mean you have to do any 'judging'.

I can't help feeling that as soon as we say that the elitist psychopaths of this world, or anyone else, are a bunch of this or that and they should all be shot immediately, or whatever, we are thoroughly perpetuating the whole mess (if that's what I'm judging it to be...!), and in myriads of subtle ways. I see this over and over and over and over in alternative media and spirituality, and it frustrates me a bit sometimes, especially when someone seems to be saying they have a solution for the mess. I've no doubt I'm guilty of 'judging' at times, and the least I can do is try and be aware of that.

[Becky]

Very good thread Omni :-)
Thanks Apulu for posting - please do post more!!
Becky x

[Daozen]

If I had the resources I would help the homeless. I just don't have those resources. Can barely afford to keep myself fed, and don't have transportation, so that is something I can't really do as there are no homeless in the town where i live(that Ive seen).

Just an idea:

http://www.quora.com/Could-rapid-growth-organic-crops-make-a-substantial-dent-in-world-hunger?srid=n7uC&share=1

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I haven't implemented it yet, but you could grow Alfalfa or other sprouts.... 3 days from seed to edible.

[Wind]

I have witnessed and experienced a lot of judgements and earlier it used to hurt a lot, but these days I don't care too much about opinions. Each to their own and we will always be judged anyways, it is up to us if we care about it or not. I am fairly normal person... (well, maybe not), so I wonder if I have experienced judgement then what minorities have to go through? I have always cared about people who are being treated unfairly. Judgement is pure arrogance coming from the ego, because the mind is always wary and judging this and that, but I must admit that I have a hard time of not being judgemental when it comes to people who hurt others. Judged will be those who judge others. We think we are separate beings when we are not, we just see the world through the eyes of an individual.

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[Apulu]

Very good thread Omni :-)
Thanks Apulu for posting - please do post more!!
Becky x

Thanks for the encouragement Becky; I guess I've been a very sporadic contributing member so far here. I seem to only rarely get really inspired to get something down and add something that I think might be worth adding, and I think I'm still getting used to the idea of being outspoken in this format, even on a forum like this (I ain't a member of any others). Who knows, perhaps I'll get into it, and perhaps it might take me less than an hour or so to respond to a thread like this next time! Cheers, Laurence

[Finefeather]

Always know the difference between judgement and constructive criticism...they are worlds apart.

Judgement comes from an ignorant mind...Constructive criticism comes from a heart that cares and loves.

[Finefeather]

If I had the resources I would help the homeless. I just don't have those resources. Can barely afford to keep myself fed, and don't have transportation, so that is something I can't really do as there are no homeless in the town where i live(that Ive seen).

You have other resources which come in the form of your knowledge of life...use it...
We always think that helping others is a material act...when in fact we are here to gain knowledge to grow our consciousness...ie from material to consciousness.
Materialism forms bonds with the lower worlds, whilst consciousness reaches for higher worlds.

Of course we need some materialism but the advanced man can live with far less of it than those still bound in materialism.

Take care
Ray

[Pam]

From a personal perspective, I find I am more inclined to make personal judgements when I am unhappy with myself, due to self judgement. I guess it is probably a form of transference. It goes back to that saying "what bothers you about someone else is what really bothers you about yourself". In fact, I use it as a really good tool for spiritual growth. If I find myself ruminating about a judgement I have placed on another, I look at myself and most of the time I can find something I am doing or thinking that is out of alignment with what I want to express as a human on planet earth. I am much more content and find much more peace and joy in life when I have moved into a state of acceptance.

[Finefeather]

From a personal perspective, I find I am more inclined to make personal judgements when I am unhappy with myself, due to self judgement. I guess it is probably a form of transference. It goes back to that saying "what bothers you about someone else is what really bothers you about yourself". In fact, I use it as a really good tool for spiritual growth. If I find myself ruminating about a judgement I have placed on another, I look at myself and most of the time I can find something I am doing or thinking that is out of alignment with what I want to express as a human on planet earth. I am much more content and find much more peace and joy in life when I have moved into a state of acceptance.
Very good advise thank you...learn to smell and control the odour from your own body...before you remark on the smell of another's :).

[EC1000]

I believe all judgment comes from the ego. The ego uses judgment either as a way of identifying with others/ situations/ things or alienating from them. Either way, the identification or alienation process reinforces the ego for better or worse. If we can recognize the multitude of our thought patterns that actually originate from the ego and the false sense of “self” that provides, then we can live without, or beyond judgement.

[OBwan]

All judgments are bad. Is judging judgment as bad a judgment? :gaah:

In my life as I removed fear, the judgments were no longer in my life.

An example of a judgment is that people from other countries should not enter the United States illegally. People who fear another taking their job by a person who entered the country illegally may have this judgment. With many people who have this fear, anger on the topic can easily elicited.

It is a fact that you cannot be angry if you do not judge. If you do not have the underlying fear associated with the judgment, then you may not judge a given situation, person, etc.

There is negativity on the planet in many ways. Would judging and using your anger allow you to be more effective in impacting the negativity than having a non-judgmental perspective?

There are always at least three choices in any situation. In a divorce there is the Husband’s, Wife’s and the Judge’s perspective. Many times finding the third choice comes from a non-judgmental perspective. In other words, a non-fear perspective.

In my life I choose to replace the fear with love so that I can live my life in peace. Replacing the fear has been the biggest impact on my life.

P.S. Less fear and judgment increase one's health.