Alex Jones Says He's Seen the Really Uncut Foley Video

[Akasha]

Alex Jones commenting on an alleged uncut version of the Foley execution:


.....well i've watched the full thing and errr there's squealing and blood spraying.....

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Comment in question @ around the 3 minute mark. Apologies if this has already been debunked as the work of an inventive AV editor who's not a member of the Jonestown community.

[outerheaven]

What a doofus. On the positive side, if AJ is essentially blowing his cover to perpetrate this obvious hoax, it would seem that the controllers truly are becoming increasingly more desperate.

[GoodETxSG]

Already posted here but very interesting IMHO... Forensic Video from a few sources shows 2 shooters, their rifles and the muzzle flash? Hmmm...

Worth the watch conversationally...

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[linksplatinum]

Alex plays both sides of the fence IMHO I personally don't trust the guy.
Now as far as the video is concerned, that has been debunked 10 fold times, throw that dead horse in its grave already.

[GoodETxSG]

If you referring to the video I posted I would love to see the Debunking Info Links! I would appreciate that info greatly :)...
Thanks for the info if this is so,
Corey,


Alex plays both sides of the fence IMHO I personally don't trust the guy.
Now as far as the video is concerned, that has been debunked 10 fold times, throw that dead horse in its grave already.

[outerheaven]

If you referring to the video I posted I would love to see the Debunking Info Links! I would appreciate that info greatly :)...
Thanks for the info if this is so,
Corey,


Alex plays both sides of the fence IMHO I personally don't trust the guy.
Now as far as the video is concerned, that has been debunked 10 fold times, throw that dead horse in its grave already.

He's referencing the Foley beheading video that is the subject of the Alex Jones video from the OP.

Corey, I think you might be confused here(?), and have mistakenly substituted "Kennedy" for "Foley" when you read the OP? If I'm mistaken, let me know the link between these subjects, because I'm not grasping it ... thanks :)

[Zaya]

I can't watch this video while at work, but... question(s):

Why would there be an unedited video in circulation, and why would it be in the hands of Alex Jones?

I don't trust this man at all. I haven't for a long time.

[linksplatinum]

Dahb007 on YouTube, jimstonefreelance.com, veteranstoday.com, just to name a few.

[GoodETxSG]

Indeed I was mistaken/confused. I confused it with the released JFK video and didn't look into the subject of the Thread deep enough to catch my own mistake...
Thanks for straightening me out... :)



If you referring to the video I posted I would love to see the Debunking Info Links! I would appreciate that info greatly :)...
Thanks for the info if this is so,
Corey,


Alex plays both sides of the fence IMHO I personally don't trust the guy.
Now as far as the video is concerned, that has been debunked 10 fold times, throw that dead horse in its grave already.

He's referencing the Foley beheading video that is the subject of the Alex Jones video from the OP.

Corey, I think you might be confused here(?), and have mistakenly substituted "Kennedy" for "Foley" when you read the OP? If I'm mistaken, let me know the link between these subjects, because I'm not grasping it ... thanks :)

[linksplatinum]

Already posted here but very interesting IMHO... Forensic Video from a few sources shows 2 shooters, their rifles and the muzzle flash? Hmmm...

Worth the watch conversationally...

TPkIqJml_uA

Sorry if you thought I was talking about your video post, not that one, the AJ and "Foley" propaganda crap...

[GoodETxSG]

Totallllly MY bad! :)
Sorry to sideline the thread. Please continue with the original topic.

[Selene]

Per the "uncut" Foley video, it wouldn't surprise me terribly that the original fakers would also put together a "full view" fake and then manage to "leak" same to vulnerable targets like Jones.

I mean, we must take it as a given that Jones' sources are infiltrated by Black Ops. It's part of their job, and Jones himself may be unaware of their duplicity. So the fakers can post a "cleaned" version online and also send the swear-to-god-uncut/secret-"original" to Jones, who obviously can't release it for public scrutiny (and debunking) because it's simply "too awful" for viewing.

Yeah, right.

New tactic. Same old crap.

Cheers,

Selene

[outerheaven]

New tactic. Same old crap.

Or, it's actually quite an old tactic of deceit: telling a bald-faced lie.

I won't give AJ the benefit of the doubt, as he's proven himself in my eyes as the pre-eminent fear-mongering gate-keeper that represents the "conspiracy theorists" that challenge the mainstream narrative. And makes us all look like a bunch of ungrounded, paranoid nuts in the process.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it." - Lenin

[Selene]

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it." - Lenin

Yes! Exactly. A proven tactic. And one well-used nowadays.

Cheers,

Selene

[andrewgreen]

New tactic. Same old crap.

Or, it's actually quite an old tactic of deceit: telling a bald-faced lie.

I won't give AJ the benefit of the doubt, as he's proven himself in my eyes as the pre-eminent fear-mongering gate-keeper that represents the "conspiracy theorists" that challenge the mainstream narrative. And makes us all look like a bunch of ungrounded, paranoid nuts in the process.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it." - Lenin


This is a fairly accurate description. Alex Jones is very clever he attracts a lot of people by good coverage and analysis of some important stories. On his own show he is usually fairly rational or wouldn't have so many listeners. However whenever he appears on any kind of mainstream program he deliberately paints himself as a conspiracy loon to basically discredit any conspiracy out there and anyone who has an interest in it, acting therefore as a gate keeper. This tactic dissuades anyone interested in conspiracy and divides the mainstream from the alternative which is part of the elites divide and conquer strategy.

[jake gittes]

Actually, Corey, I find the jfk video much more interesting than Alex Jones' limited hangout act. He served his purpose for me early on in the rabbit hole, but he seems very much like controlled opposition and fear porn.

Do you know if the guy colorized the JFK film/photos himself or if it was computer-generated? If he did it himself, it's more open to him interpreting/concluding things himself. If it's done by a sophisticated computer program, it tends to give his conclusions more creedence, imo. Interesting stuff, thanks!

[Robin]

My opinion of Alex Jones has also swayed with time. Although he is a self-proclaimed "Truther," he is an extremely biased one. The fact of the matter is that he is a religionist, statist, and close-minded individual when it comes to larger conspiracies (i.e. reptilians). He believes that:


Christianity is still the best and only religion while discounting astro-theology and the history of Christianity being created to control and separate people.
Humans need a little bit of government, and that humans are naturally prone to cause destruction and harm towards people.
The U.S. government as it is today is not Authoritarian, but will be some time further down the road.

Alex Jones labels himself as a Libertarian. Really, all that this means is that he believes in a "little bit" of slavery. He also denies that Christianity was created to control and manipulate people. Although he speaks heavily against the New World Order, he is highly disillusioned about the brevity of our current situation.

Additionally, he is just as biased as any Mainstream Media source. If you go on his site, it is riddled with Rand Paul (Libertarian, Conservative Senator) propaganda. His articles are extremely biased towards Rand Paul, either making it seem like he is a victim of vicious attack or is the coming savior of the nation. This is extremely biased, and so are many more of his articles.

Until Alex Jones puts on his big-boy pants and understands that humans do not need an external ruler -- whether that be a false superstition character named Jesus, or a small group of people called government -- we will not become a sovereign race. Until he opens his mind to the fact that he is still defending his belief systems just like all the other "sleepers" within humanity and starts to open his mind to bigger conspiracies (i.e. reptilians), then he will only continue to propagate the Truth on a kindergarten level.

[korgh]

There are no "full videos", only the fading ones. Maybe Alex had edit those videos by himself. He needs stop with his medicine or just seek another doctor.

Pathological lying (also called compulsive lying, pseudologia fantastica and mythomania)Characteristics

Defining characteristics of pathological lying include:


The stories told are usually dazzling or fantastical, but never breach the realm of reality. The possibility of truth is key to the pathological liar's survival. They are not a manifestation of delusionor some broader type of psychosis: upon confrontation, the teller can admit them to be untrue, even if unwillingly.
The fabricative tendency is chronic; it is not provoked by the immediate situation or social pressure as much as it is an innate trait of the personality. There is some element of dyscontrol present.
A definitely internal, not an external, motive for the behavior can be discerned clinically: e.g., long-lasting extortion or habitual spousal battery might cause a person to lie repeatedly, without the lying being a pathological symptom.
The stories told tend toward presenting the liar favorably. The liar "decorates their own person"by telling stories that present them as the hero or the victim. For example, the person might be presented as being fantastically brave, knowing or being related to many famous people, or claiming they earn more income than they do.

Pathological lying may also present as false memory syndrome, where the sufferer genuinely believes that fictitious events have taken place, regardless that these events are fantasies. The sufferer may believe that he or she has committed superhuman acts of altruism and love or has committed equally grandiose acts of diabolical evil, for which the sufferer must atone, or has already atoned for in her/his fantasies.

Edited to add:
There must be something behind the scene. The theatrical performance was pathetic and his "call to arms" was a complete disaster. I would even say: an online career suicide. I've been watching some Alex Jones shows and the biggest part of stuff published, touches the frontier between the entertainment and absurdity.
Almost a "bipolar" character.. The Alex Jones's Infowars is becoming the new National Enquirer.

[jackovesk]

Alex Jones commenting on an alleged uncut version of the Foley execution:


.....well i've watched the full thing and errr there's squealing and blood spraying.....

FkEQ58BUgJg

Comment in question @ around the 3 minute mark. Apologies if this has already been debunked as the work of an inventive AV editor who's not a member of the Jonestown community.

Confused Akasha..:confused:

What are you trying to say...:confused:


That Alex Jones says the Foley Video is Fake, but he's seen the Real Clip with all the blood & guts in it and the (Reich Watchers) are calling out Alex Jones as a Lier..:confused:

Again, what are you trying to say...:confused:

[Atlas]

As I understand it, there are two versions of the video:

* One that stops when the knife is under Foley's throat (clean version)
* and one which shows the head with the blood (dirty version)

The people who claim to have seen the full uncut video are the ones who saw the second version of the video (dirty version) and I think that is what Alex Jones was referring to.

Edit: he may have been shown a fictitious episode of this series:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/turkeyfiction.jpg
http://vk.com/video37833372_169855221

[MorningFox]

The man is not to be trusted and is, in my opinion, willingly or unwillingly working for the opposite side.

[korgh]

The man is not to be trusted and is, in my opinion, willingly or unwillingly working for the opposite side.

Yup. I share your opinion too. two sides of the same coin....
Maybe forced to do, exposing himself and his work to ridiculously but as you said: The man is not to be trusted.

[jackovesk]

Some of you guys have absolutely "No Idea" when it comes to your own innate Discernment...:nono:

Your simply playing "Guessing Games" because you don't like someone's overall persona...:faint:

Pretty pathetic really for so called Truthseekers...:noidea:

PS - You should all really go back and dissect this 'Thread' for what it really is...


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[outerheaven]

That's a pretty worthless post, jack.

I'm not sure what you expect people to do other than question AJ's integrity, when he states that the Foley beheading video is real, and that he's seen a version with "blood spraying" and "screaming."

Has anyone else claimed to see this video? If so, where are the articles? If not, why didn't AJ run some kind of headline about the super-duper-secret leak, since he is the one lone media figure to receive this video?

If there is a longer version of the video, then people must be seriously mistaken -- including the anonymous "video experts" in numerous MSM articles stating that the video appeared to be staged. ("But oh," they said, "trust us, he was definitely beheaded off-camera!" Gee, sounds familiar, doesn't it?)

Heck, you might want to let the Foley siblings know that James Foley actually was beheaded, apparently, because they don't seem to buy it themselves. ;)

In other words: spectacular claims require spectacular evidence. It seems AJ thought he could just nonchalantly slide that "oh btw I saw this video and trust me guys it's real" into his radio show. Do you suggest we just trust AJ at his word?

If you have something valuable to contribute to the topic, please do. Otherwise you're just adding more


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[Akasha]

Confused Akasha..:confused:

Not at all, Jacko. Seems crystal clear to me.


What are you trying to say...:confused:

I'm not trying to say anything. I'm just letting Alex do all the talking. Hole and dig come to mind though.

[jackovesk]

That's a pretty worthless post, jack.

I'm not sure what you expect people to do other than question AJ's integrity, when he states that the Foley beheading video is real, and that he's seen a version with "blood spraying" and "screaming."

Has anyone else claimed to see this video? If so, where are the articles? If not, why didn't AJ run some kind of headline about the super-duper-secret leak, since he is the one lone media figure to receive this video?

If there is a longer version of the video, then people must be seriously mistaken -- including the anonymous "video experts" in numerous MSM articles stating that the video appeared to be staged. ("But oh," they said, "trust us, he was definitely beheaded off-camera!" Gee, sounds familiar, doesn't it?)

Heck, you might want to let the Foley siblings know that James Foley actually was beheaded, apparently, because they don't seem to buy it themselves.

In other words: spectacular claims require spectacular evidence. It seems AJ thought he could just nonchalantly slide that "oh btw I saw this video and trust me guys it's real" into his radio show. Do you suggest we just trust AJ at his word?

If you have something valuable to contribute to the topic, please do. Otherwise you're just adding more


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Confused Akasha..???

Not at all, Jacko. Seems crystal clear to me.


What are you trying to say...???

I'm not trying to say anything. I'm just letting Alex do all the talking. Hole and dig come to mind though.


Do you suggest we just trust AJ at his word?

No absolutely not, however to ((Hang Alex Jones's)) credibility on such a ((Flim-Flam)) argument is not really my idea of what Truthseeking is all about...:nono:

Sorry Guys, but I'm not going to ((Throw Alex under a Bus)) for such a 'Fickle-Hit Piece' like this...:nono:


For 19+ years Alex single handedly has ((Woken-Up)) more people on the planet than any other Truthseeker in history...:wizard:

Yet, the second his credibility is questioned the ((Alex-Haters)) are out in force calling for his head...:yes4:

I have listened to Alex's show for the last decade, and I ((Guarantee You)) I would be one of the first to :director: ((Call him Out)) if I believed he was a ((Shill))...:yes4:

Not on this flimsy ((Crap)) though...:nono:

Your going to need a little more substance on him than this for me to take you seriously...:noidea:

[MorningFox]

Your going to need a little more substance on him than this for me to take you seriously...

You'll need to learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're' before I take you seriously.

For every 1 person Alex Jones has 'woken up' he probably has 5 people refusing to listen to anything he says, no matter how truthful, because of his obnoxious crazy person way of communicating.

You'd think that when talking about subjects the masses are brainwashed into believing are crazy, the first thing you would do is want to appear sane and rational. He comes across as anything but sane and rational, which leads me to believe he is either working for or at least unwillingly being used by, the very people he claims to be exposing.

Create an air of ridicule around the truth. He does this impeccably.

[jackovesk]

Your going to need a little more substance on him than this for me to take you seriously...

You'll need to learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're' before I take you seriously.

For every 1 person Alex Jones has 'woken up' he probably has 5 people refusing to listen to anything he says, no matter how truthful, because of his obnoxious crazy person way of communicating.

You'd think that when talking about subjects the masses are brainwashed into believing are crazy, the first thing you would do is want to appear sane and rational. He comes across as anything but sane and rational, which leads me to believe he is either working for or at least unwillingly being used by, the very people he claims to be exposing.

Create an air of ridicule around the truth. He does this impeccably.


You'll need to learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're' before I take you seriously.


because of his obnoxious crazy person way of communicating

I rest my case...:wizard:

Thanks for that ((MorningFox))...:thumb:

[MorningFox]

You make very little sense.

[thunder24]

more then one way to peel an orange....

some don't like oranges, but they may like bananas...

i like both, and pistachios too, "you can't eat just one pistachio"

[outerheaven]

Jack, I'm not an "Alex Jones hater" at all. Now I'm by no means a regular reader of InfoWars, but I do look at it from time to time and have found interesting articles there. I tend to avoid his site because the fear-mongering is so intense, I can feel the "fear" and "hopelessness" emanating from my computer screen. It doesn't ring true for me.

You said I wasn't using my "innate discernment" here, but I beg to differ -- my innate discernment is that AJ told a lie to advance the idea that the Foley beheading video is real. From all the contradicting circumstantial events surrounding this story, to AJ's tone and speedy delivery, as if he wanted to spit this rather extravagant claim out as fast as possible and move on to the next point -- tells me that he wants us to accept him at his word and quickly move on. My intuition thus tells me that he's lying.

You can disagree with my intuition, but I take issue with the unfair characterizations and accusations you're lobbing -- that I'm somehow being intellectually or intuitively dishonest by not believing AJ or doubting his integrity.

Again, if you have something to present that would help verify AJ's claim, then please provide it in the interest of this discussion. If not, drop the personal stuff, and let's just agree to disagree on AJ's role as "truth-seeker" or "gate-keeper" and move on.

[3(C)+me]

My opinion of AJ as also changed over time. He does know this stuff but his way of presentation and how he encourages not unity but separation and at times just hate. He wants to go to war with the elite and that of course just creates more separation and war. Even if this video is for real it is well known that the CIA trained ISIS and this is of course the old, problem, reaction, solution thing... it's textbook.
One can get free as Lennon said in the song, so you want a revolution, you got to free your mind. Makes different choices in daily life. I can't even listen to him for 5 minutes but when I was awaking up he did help me for a while.