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Pam
20th September 2014, 14:00
I found this article interesting for those that are interested in your health. Not only do you need to be aware of fluoride in toothpaste but it appears that at least Crest toothpaste has been adding plastic micro beads to this witches brew. What honest reason could you have for putting friggin plastic in toothpaste?







What a Dental Hygienist Found in Her Patient’s Mouths Forced a Company to Take Action


A dental hygienist from Arizona made quite a strange discovery in the mouths of her patients and spoke up about it. Now, a company is taking action.
Trish Walraven, from Phoenix, started noticing something peculiar a few years ago and started asking some of her colleagues if they noticed it to.
“We thought it was a cleaning product or something that people were chewing,” said Walraven.
Her discovery? Little blue dots that were trapped in the spaces between people’s teeth and gums, and it turns out it was happening to quite a few people.
“Some weeks I’ll see five or six patients,” Walraven told KNXV.
After discussing what they were seeing with other hygienists for some time and trying to figure out what it was they were seeing, Walraven said they got it; it was polyethylene. The same plastic used for more purposes than we can count and is found in everything from trash bags to bulletproof vests.
Now, these plastic microbeads are found in toothpaste, and according dentist Justin Phillip, they shouldn’t be anywhere near your mouth.
“They’ll trap bacteria in the gums which leads to gingivitis, and over time that infection moves from the gum into the bone that holds your teeth, and that becomes periodontal disease. Periodontal disease is scary.”
From what she found, Walraven said that one company seems to use the microbeads more than any others.

“Pretty much everyone was saying that they were using some form of Crest toothpaste,” Walraven explained.
She wants companies to remove the microbeads from their products, and she has started a blog which has gotten attention across the country. One toothpaste manufacturer has actually taken notice and will be making changes in the future.
Proctor and Gamble, who manufactures Crest, said in a statement to ABC15, “While the ingredient in question is completely safe, we understand there is a growing preference for us to remove the ingredient. So we will.”
The company said it will have the majority of its products microbead-free in six months,

RunningDeer
20th September 2014, 14:34
"...Crest toothpaste has been adding plastic micro beads to this witches brew." Big chuckle when I read this part, Peterpam.

I use to go for check-ups twice a year. Now I only need to go once and the visit doesn’t take that long. I canceled my dental insurance. I use this product: ”Oralive Toothpaste" from AscendedHealth.com (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/products_dentalcare.htm#gum-disease-01). It lasts about 8-10 months. It keeps my teeth white and there’s no plaque build up. I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

Ingredients (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm): 
Volcanic Earth Minerals, Vitamin C, Camu Camu, Amla, Calcium, Xylitol, Nettle, Folic Acid, CoQ 10, Marine Phytoplankton, Astaxanthin, Blue Green Algae, Pau D’Arco, Aloe Vera, Noni, Peppermint, Melissa, Arnica, Licorice, Mint, Turmeric, Holy Basil, Ginger. Essential Oils of Neroli, Jasmine, Spikenard, Rose.
Oralive Dental Regenerative Elixir

Description (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm): All natural oral balancing paste made of live edible clays, calcium, superfoods, oxygen, essential oils, deep ocean trace minerals, ancient probiotic bacteria. Helps reset oral bioterrain with friendly microbes. Does not contain flouride or soap. Vegan.

Designed to help support your body to


inhibit bacteria that cause cavities, plaque and gingivitis
alleviate gum pain & gum bleeding
whiten teeth

Pam
20th September 2014, 15:03
Runningdeer,

Thanks for the suggestion on the Oralive Toothpaste. I have used the fluoride free toothpaste for years but the one you are describing seems to be a cut above what I have used.

As far as this Crest toothpaste adding plastic beads to its toothpaste, it just goe to show that we cannot expect any protection whatsoever from the FDA or the corporations that make this crap. I would love to have been a fly on the wall when this decision to put plastic in toothpaste was made. What rational could there be for this?

ThePythonicCow
20th September 2014, 16:07
I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

The Oralive looks quite interesting.

The Tom's has glycerin, which as best as know (1) gives a nice "smooth and clean" tongue feel to your teeth, but (2) coats them, suppressing natural re-mineralization of minor scratches. Also all but one or two of Tom's toothpaste varieties has SLS.

Pris
20th September 2014, 16:39
Can someone please make a list of toothpastes without fluoride and glycerin? :becky:

RunningDeer
20th September 2014, 16:56
I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

The Oralive looks quite interesting.

The Tom's has glycerin, which as best as know (1) gives a nice "smooth and clean" tongue feel to your teeth, but (2) coats them, suppressing natural re-mineralization of minor scratches. Also all but one or two of Tom's toothpaste varieties has SLS.


I was not aware of SLS. Thanks, Paul. I’ve tossed out my last 2 1/2 “if/when the grid goes down” Tom's tubes. Grrrr. I’m 2 ahead with Oralive.

Tom's of Maine (http://www.tomsofmaine.com/ingredients/overlay/sodium-lauryl-sulfate)

Paula :wave: to :cow:

Pris
20th September 2014, 17:09
Can someone please make a list of toothpastes without fluoride and glycerin? :becky:




I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

The Oralive looks quite interesting.

The Tom's has glycerin, which as best as know (1) gives a nice "smooth and clean" tongue feel to your teeth, but (2) coats them, suppressing natural re-mineralization of minor scratches. Also all but one or two of Tom's toothpaste varieties has SLS.


I was not aware of SLS. Thanks, Paul. I’ve tossed out my last 2 1/2 “if/when the grid goes down” Tom's tubes. Grrrr. I’m 2 ahead with Oralive.

Tom's of Maine (http://www.tomsofmaine.com/ingredients/overlay/sodium-lauryl-sulfate)

Paula :wave: to :cow:

Uggh. What is SLS, I'm afraid to ask?

RunningDeer
20th September 2014, 17:22
Uggh. What is SLS, I'm afraid to ask?

Hi Pris,

Here's one of several stops I made:

Top 10 Reasons to Avoid Sodium Lauryl Sulfate

There are a lot of rumors out there about Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfate. Is it really a carcinogen? What about an endocrine disruptor and skin irritant? What’s truth and what’s myth? We’ve put together this article to clear up the confusion about the debated chemical. There’s no need to spread lies…the truth is scary enough. To make it easy we’re going to refer to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate and its even more evil twin, Sodium Laureth Sulfate from this point forward as SLS.

If you have the suspicion that washing your face is making your skin dry, or that shampooing is giving you an itchy scalp or making your eyes sting, or that cleaning your teeth is giving you mouth ulcers, sodium lauryl sulfate is the likely culprit. In studies, there are “significant correlations” (in the words of one) between SLS and contact dermatitis. The Journal of the American College of Toxicology says that it has “a degenerative effect on the cell membranes because of its protein denaturing properties”. The Journal adds that “high levels of skin penetration may occur at even low use concentration.

Here are our top ten reasons you should not use anything containing SLS.

1. It is a known skin irritant. When cosmetic companies need to test the healing properties of a lotion, they need toirritate the skin first. What do they use to do this? SLS, of course. If you have dandruff, dermatitis, canker sores, or other irritated tissues or skin, it could be due to SLS.

2. It pollutes our groundwater.  It is toxic to fish and other aquatic animals and has the potential for bioaccumulation (meaning it accumulates in the bodies of the fish.)  It also is undetected in many municipal water filters, getting into the tap water that you drink.

3. It is actually a pesticide and herbicide.  It is commonly used to kill plants and insects. Makers of SLS recently petitioned to have SLS listed as an approved pesticide for organic farming.  The application was denied because of its polluting properties and environmental damage.

4. It emits toxic fumes when heated. Toxic Sodium Oxides and Sulfur Oxides are released when SLS is heated.  Makes a hot shower with an SLS shampoo seem not quite as nice…

5.  It has corrosive properties.  According to the American College of Toxicity,  this includes corrosion of the fats and protiens that make up skin and muscle.  SLS can be found in garage floor cleanrs, engine degreasers, and car wash soaps.



6.  Long-term permeation of the body’s tissues.  A study from the University of Georgia Medicine showed that SLS had the power to permeate the eyes, brain, heart, and liver.

7.  It’s an eye irritant.  It was shown to cause cataracts in adults, and is proven to inhibit the proper formation of eyes in small children.

8.  Nitrate and other solvent contamination.  Toxic solvents, including carcinogenic nitrates are used in the manufacturing of SLS, traces of which can remain in the product.

9.  Manufacturing process is highly polluting, emitting cancer-causing volatile organic compounds, sulfur compounds, and air particulates.



10.  It helps other chemicals get into your body. SLS is a penetration enhancer, meaning that its molecules are so small they’re able to cross the membranes of your body’s cells.  Once cells are compromised, they become more vulnerable to other toxic chemicals that may be with the SLS.

Does it cause cancer?


SLS is not a recognized carcinogen itself, but there is some truth behind those internet rumors.  When SLS is mixed with triethanolamine (or T.E.A) carcinogenic substances called nitrosames can form and be released.

Products commonly found to contains Sodium Lauryl Sulfate found here (http://smartklean.wordpress.com/2011/09/08/top-10-reasons-to-avoid-sodium-lauryl-sulfate/).

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skyflower
20th September 2014, 17:42
I've been using redmonds earthpaste for the past year, but will be adding oralive to my list. Thank you running deer. :)

Rich
20th September 2014, 17:47
Homemade Remineralizing Toothpaste Ingredients:

- 5 parts Calcium powder
- 1 part Diatomaceous Earth (optional- contains trace minerals and silica. UPDATE: A reader noted that DE can be abrasive and is not needed with the baking soda, so if you don’t have DE… no worries!)
- 2 parts Baking Soda
- 3 parts Xylitol Powder- This ingredient is not completely necessary, but just keeps it from tasting bitter.
- 3-5 parts coconut oil to get desired texture
- Optional ingredients: Essential oils for flavor (mint, cinnamon, and orange are all good), Grapefruit Seed Extract, Myrrh and Trace Minerals


Simplified version I use:

- 5 parts Calcium powder
- 2 parts Baking Soda
- 3-5 parts coconut oil to get desired texture

source: http://wellnessmama.com/2500/remineralizing-toothpaste/

RunningDeer
20th September 2014, 18:17
Oil Pulling For Health (http://blogs.naturalnews.com/oil-pulling-for-health-even-if-you-arent-a-texas-oil-tycoon/)

It's suggested to use a T spoon, I about use 2t of extra virgin olive oil and spit it into a paper napkin. I used this technique more when I first learned about it. After rereading this, I'll reestablish the every other day pattern.

Each time, I'm surprised how white my teeth get even after one application, and even though my teeth are white from from the Oralive (and naturally so).

In Oil Pulling the technique is very simplistic yet it is said to have amazing results. These results bring a more healthy balance of good flora and bacteria within your body. It will remove unhealthy bacteria from your mouth, teeth and gums thus promoting less intrusion of these germs into your body via the bloodstream and less into your organs.

As Ukrainian physician, Dr F. Karach said at a conference of the all Ukranische-Union of the Oncologists and Bacteriologists, “treatment will achieve remarkable results with illnesses like migraine headaches, bronchitis, diseased teeth, arterio thrombosis, chronic blood disorders such as leukemia, arthritis and related illnesses, neuro physiological paralysis, eczema, gastro enteritis, peritonitis, heart disease, kidney disease, meningitis, and women’s hormonal disorders are completely eliminated from the organism.” Dr. Karach’s further stated that the oil therapy heals the whole body in perpetuity. (lasts forever, indefinite)

So how do you do this “Oil Pulling” thing? First you should choose what oil you will use. Many researchers and users have stated that one of two oils work best. The two recommended oils being sesame oil or sunflower oil. I have personally used both and also have used coconut oil and olive oil. It is recommended to have cold pressed if available.

Obviously if you have any allergies or food reactions to any oil do not use that particular oil but use another one you are not reactive to.

First thing in am before breakfast or intake of any liquids, pour one tablespoon of whatever oil you choose to use into your mouth. Remember this, that whatever oil you use, it is only food you are putting into your mouth. Oil is, after all, food.

Next, swish this around in your mouth and pull and push it around your gums and between your teeth. You should “Oil Pull” about 15-20 minutes. DO NOT SWALLOW any of the oil. You will be swishing and moving it around but also DO NOT gargle with it. The oil will become toxic as you continue the procedure so that is why you should not gargle with it or swallow it.

Let me tell you some of my initial road blocks and problems from my own experiences with Oil Pulling. I found the whole tablespoon of oil to be quite a bit of oil when I was not used to having it in my mouth for a prolonged period like this. Also, as I swished it and pushed and pulled it around my mouth, it became frothy and watery as it mixed with my saliva. That is a good thing and the proper way it should go. The problem being was that the texture of the mix was hard to get used to and “stomach” at first.

Let me say this, if you feel like you need to spit it out before the whole amount of time, do so. You can just start over again and try to get the proper amount of time out of the two attempts. The thing here is that you are comfortable with the procedure. I found that my mouth and jaws also would get tired and ache. This probably meant that I was doing the “Oil Pulling” too hard and/or fast. I would take a break for a second then start back at an easier more relaxed state. If you can find that easy and natural rhythm then that is the best and most proper way to proceed. This, like anything new, will eventually get easier and more natural to do for you. Just keep at it and you will start to notice results. Good results. One of the most notable results is the whitening of your teeth after Oil Pulling.

Once you have done about 15-20 minutes of the Pulling, you will spit out the watery, frothy mixture. This spit is highly toxic at that point so if you spit it into a sink, you need to clean the sink with an antibacterial soap/cleaner. It is best and easier to spit it into the toilet.

Once you spit out the oil mixture you can rinse with salt water or some recommend brushing your teeth with your fingers and soap. I know you are saying soap??? But, you just finger brush your teeth and rinse out your mouth thoroughly.

You can perform this procedure a few times a day if you like but always do so before eating. You can also space out the days you perform this if you like. The whole schedule thing is up to you. Do weekdays and lay off weekends or do it every day. It is your decision. Two days of OP and a day off….whatever you like.

Now that you have read this article, if you are not already doing so, please give it a try for a week and see the results for yourself. Some even claim to have more energy, lose weight and sleep better after starting this ritual.

betoobig
20th September 2014, 18:19
B i c a r b o n a t o d e s o d i o

ThePythonicCow
20th September 2014, 18:51
I've been using redmonds earthpaste for the past year
Me too ... I like it.

Pam
20th September 2014, 19:26
I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

The Oralive looks quite interesting.

The Tom's has glycerin, which as best as know (1) gives a nice "smooth and clean" tongue feel to your teeth, but (2) coats them, suppressing natural re-mineralization of minor scratches. Also all but one or two of Tom's toothpaste varieties has SLS.



Paul, I was not aware of what glycerin can do regarding the suppression of re-mineralization. It goes to show that if you keep your ears open you really can learn something new every day! I became a little leery of Tom's when I accidentally bought some of their toothpaste with fluoride. So once again, buyer beware.

Pam
20th September 2014, 20:05
B i c a r b o n a t o d e s o d i o



My mom never brushed her teeth with anything but baking soda and salt for many years and never had a cavity. Then at some point she changed to some popular brand of toothpaste and ended loosing a lot of teeth.

Pam
20th September 2014, 20:14
Thanks for the info on SLS ,RunningDeer. From what I gather the reason it is in all sorts of things is that it creates a lather and nice little bubbles to make us feel we are getting clean but actually we are doing all sorts of damage...to ourselves and the ground water. To think that it is a herbicide and pesticide. Another thing to be aware of........

Spirithorse
20th September 2014, 22:32
All these fab natural dental care products seem to be coming from the US.
Does anyone have recommendations for good natural products that are available in the UK?

On someone's advice - was it you Paul? - I've been ordering Ipsab tooth powder and gum treatment to counteract a tendency to gum disease.
It works fine but the thought of having it shipped around the globe doesn't sit that well with me. Also, there are considerable shipment charges. Ordering larger quantities would get one over the customs' limit which then makes the whole thing completely ridiculous.

Concerning cavities, or the lack thereof, about 15 years ago I started using a saturated brine of Himalayan pink salt to dunk my toothbrush in and I haven't had anything since, nothing.

Today I still use the Himalayan pink salt brine with some bicarb of soda mixed in, additionally the Ipsab and I'm fine, apart from the fact that the latter comes from the other side of the globe.

nenosema
21st September 2014, 00:47
Switched to charcoal from baking soda upon reading this http://phoenixtools.org/alternative-teeth-care/ After all it is one of the most natural things in the world and we had a ton. Along with oil pulling my teeth become very white and lost all the sensitivity they once had. noticed too that after brushing with charcoal, then brushing with coconut oil had a much nicer feel, wonder how flavored oils would do..

RunningDeer
21st September 2014, 01:03
Switched to charcoal from baking soda upon reading this http://phoenixtools.org/alternative-teeth-care/ After all it is one of the most natural things in the world and we had a ton. Along with oil pulling my teeth become very white and lost all the sensitivity they once had. noticed too that after brushing with charcoal, then brushing with coconut oil had a much nicer feel, wonder how flavored oils would do..
Good tips in that article, nenosema.

#4 reminded me of what an 11 year old taught me back in early 1980's. Along with brushing your tongue, brush the roof of your mouth. (gums, I added) When I asked him if someone taught him that his answer was, "No. It only makes sense that you would." Sending a hello out there to JS. :wave:

4. Baking soda / Hydrogen Peroxide
Using your toothbrush of choice, put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide on the toothbrush then dip it into the baking soda. Then brush your teeth with that mixture. Also remember to brush your tongue at the last and rinse well. This is my mainstay for teeth health and it also helps whiten the teeth.

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David Trd1
21st September 2014, 04:26
I have a market stall at craft markets in my local area on the weekends and sell this stuff:

27287

Its locally made,I get it from a couple who have it made for there little natural soap and body products range.No fluoride,no sls,no artificial sweetners,etc

Its also got some lemon myrtle in it which is a native Australian plant that the aboriginals revere.

There were some lab trials done a few years back and the essential oil that comes from the lemon myrtle plant has higher anti-fungal,anti-viral and anti-bacterial properties than tea-tree oil which is high in all of those.

Pam
21st September 2014, 13:39
I am blown away at all the good advice and information everyone has shared. Teeth are something we take for granted, but if you know anyone that has lost theirs you realize how important it is to hang on to those little choppers!!!!!

I feel so fortunate to be among you people, with all the insight, knowledge and wisdom.....

Tesseract
22nd September 2014, 02:50
By the way, if the polymer particles are blue in colour they can not possibly be pure polyethylene, which is colourless by its very nature. Either it has some kind of dye in it, or it's been stained that way by other blue chemicals in the toothpaste.

Pam
22nd September 2014, 12:20
[QUOTE=Tesseract;879564]By the way, if the polymer particles are blue in colour they can not possibly be pure polyethylene, which is colourless by its very nature. Either it has some kind of dye in it, or it's been stained that way by other blue chemicals in the toothpaste.[/Q

So whats a little more blue dye added to the batch of chemicals Crest calls toothpaste!!!!!teeeheee...Thanks for the added information, Tesseract.

Jules
23rd September 2014, 06:42
Funny that you should mention toothpaste. I came across information about natural products for teeth that are better than toothpaste. Good information...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnNBKdajaWg&feature=player_detailpage

I tried turmeric as an experiment, and my teeth felt good, but my toothbrush was a saffron color, which is not a big deal just watch your clothes. I plan to try the others as well.

Pam
23rd September 2014, 12:38
Funny that you should mention toothpaste. I came across information about natural products for teeth that are better than toothpaste. Good information...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnNBKdajaWg&feature=player_detailpage

I tried turmeric as an experiment, and my teeth felt good, but my toothbrush was a saffron color, which is not a big deal just watch your clothes. I plan to try the others as well.



Jules, really good info and I'm glad it addressed the whiteners, reminding us how easy the chemicals are absorbed under the tongue, and the abrasive qualities of the whiteners.

kanishk
19th October 2014, 17:14
From 1 year I am using powder made from Black walnut hull.

In Hulda Clark's protocols she uses Black Walnut hull to make its tincture in alcohol for using it in bowel parasite cleanse. According to her it’s a very good insecticide, pesticide and fungicide.

On some websites people have experimented with Black Walnut Hull powder. And they got very good results such as remineralization of tooth’s in kids and teenagers, healing of cracked tooth, and then doctor getting astonished seeing x-ray films.

I have given this powder to my mom, grandmother, aunts and uncle. Earlier have using many different Manjans(=Ayurvedic/Unani tooth powders) and tooth pastes but still their tooth have pain. Now after using this Black Walnut Hull Manjan/powder they have no pain. My mother’s OSMF (Oral Sub Mucus Fibrosis) is also not there, means she can easily open hear mouth.

I have one tooth that is completely destroyed/broken in half and one adjacent tooth has cavity in it. I had pain because of infection and blood leaking from that area. There always a bad tasted blood or fluid coming out of that area. Therefore nerve ending there are always in pain. But now I am without pain using this powder. And even big food particles clogged and compressed in that cavity of broken tooth doesn’t cause such huge pain

Olam
19th October 2014, 17:44
I use this product and its been great, I don't plan to use anything else for now, the salt in there works wonders.

http://usa.weleda.com/our-products/shop/salt-toothpaste.aspx

Pris
25th October 2014, 02:44
From 1 year I am using powder made from Black walnut hull.

In Hulda Clark's protocols she uses Black Walnut hull to make its tincture in alcohol for using it in bowel parasite cleanse. According to her it’s a very good insecticide, pesticide and fungicide.

On some websites people have experimented with Black Walnut Hull powder. And they got very good results such as remineralization of tooth’s in kids and teenagers, healing of cracked tooth, and then doctor getting astonished seeing x-ray films.

I have given this powder to my mom, grandmother, aunts and uncle. Earlier have using many different Manjans(=Ayurvedic/Unani tooth powders) and tooth pastes but still their tooth have pain. Now after using this Black Walnut Hull Manjan/powder they have no pain. My mother’s OSMF (Oral Sub Mucus Fibrosis) is also not there, means she can easily open hear mouth.

I have one tooth that is completely destroyed/broken in half and one adjacent tooth has cavity in it. I had pain because of infection and blood leaking from that area. There always a bad tasted blood or fluid coming out of that area. Therefore nerve ending there are always in pain. But now I am without pain using this powder. And even big food particles clogged and compressed in that cavity of broken tooth doesn’t cause such huge pain

Thanks for the information on Black Walnut Hull powder!

I am glad that the Black Walnut Hull powder has helped to diminish your mouth pain due to infection caused by damaged teeth. However, forgive me for asking... are you unable to afford to get your teeth taken care of? Walking around with 'one completely destroyed/broken in half tooth' and another with a cavity and probably an exposed nerve ending doesn't seem like the best thing.

Dental care should be free along with everything else IMO, but that's another topic. ;)

Pam
25th October 2014, 13:23
From 1 year I am using powder made from Black walnut hull.

In Hulda Clark's protocols she uses Black Walnut hull to make its tincture in alcohol for using it in bowel parasite cleanse. According to her it’s a very good insecticide, pesticide and fungicide.

On some websites people have experimented with Black Walnut Hull powder. And they got very good results such as remineralization of tooth’s in kids and teenagers, healing of cracked tooth, and then doctor getting astonished seeing x-ray films.

I have given this powder to my mom, grandmother, aunts and uncle. Earlier have using many different Manjans(=Ayurvedic/Unani tooth powders) and tooth pastes but still their tooth have pain. Now after using this Black Walnut Hull Manjan/powder they have no pain. My mother’s OSMF (Oral Sub Mucus Fibrosis) is also not there, means she can easily open hear mouth.

I have one tooth that is completely destroyed/broken in half and one adjacent tooth has cavity in it. I had pain because of infection and blood leaking from that area. There always a bad tasted blood or fluid coming out of that area. Therefore nerve ending there are always in pain. But now I am without pain using this powder. And even big food particles clogged and compressed in that cavity of broken tooth doesn’t cause such huge pain

Thanks for the information on Black Walnut Hull powder!

I am glad that the Black Walnut Hull powder has helped to diminish your mouth pain due to infection caused by damaged teeth. However, forgive me for asking... are you unable to afford to get your teeth taken care of? Walking around with 'one completely destroyed/broken in half tooth' and another with a cavity and probably an exposed nerve ending doesn't seem like the best thing.

Dental care should be free along with everything else IMO, but that's another topic. ;)

Pris is right Kaneshk. Particularly the destroyed half broken tooth that had an infection. Teeth are notorious for brewing infections at the root and you might not feel the pain, so just because your pain went away there may still be bacteria doing damage to the area. The extra problem is that the infection is so near the brain. I had an infection near the root of a root canal without symptoms. In a very short amount of time it destroyed some of the thin bone that makes up the jaw. Maybe you would be better considering having that tooth taken out? I am not a dentist but I do hate to see you have lots of trouble with infection, and you are just 27 years old. Although Black Walnut Hull may do a good job cleaning teeth, I don't see how it can affect an infection in and around the root of the tooth.




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kanishk
25th October 2014, 18:37
Thank you Pris, peterpam, reason that I am not removing my half brocken tooth is that I am not getting free time and also because currently I am not having any pain I am a little careless about them. I want to do the x ray of both teeth now, so I can see what further damage is increased or weather the other one with cavity is remineralised or not.

Pam
25th October 2014, 20:31
Thank you Pris, peterpam, reason that I am not removing my half brocken tooth is that I am not getting free time and also because currently I am not having any pain I am a little careless about them. I want to do the x ray of both teeth now, so I can see what further damage is increased or weather the other one with cavity is remineralised or not.

kanishk, I am really glad that you are going to do this, as I would hate for you to have damage occurring that you are unaware of like I did. I hope everything checks out ok for you!!!!!!

DeDukshyn
25th October 2014, 21:29
"...Crest toothpaste has been adding plastic micro beads to this witches brew." Big chuckle when I read this part, Peterpam.

I use to go for check-ups twice a year. Now I only need to go once and the visit doesn’t take that long. I canceled my dental insurance. I use this product: ”Oralive Toothpaste" from AscendedHealth.com (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/products_dentalcare.htm#gum-disease-01). It lasts about 8-10 months. It keeps my teeth white and there’s no plaque build up. I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

Ingredients (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm): 
Volcanic Earth Minerals, Vitamin C, Camu Camu, Amla, Calcium, Xylitol, Nettle, Folic Acid, CoQ 10, Marine Phytoplankton, Astaxanthin, Blue Green Algae, Pau D’Arco, Aloe Vera, Noni, Peppermint, Melissa, Arnica, Licorice, Mint, Turmeric, Holy Basil, Ginger. Essential Oils of Neroli, Jasmine, Spikenard, Rose.
Oralive Dental Regenerative Elixir

Description (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm): All natural oral balancing paste made of live edible clays, calcium, superfoods, oxygen, essential oils, deep ocean trace minerals, ancient probiotic bacteria. Helps reset oral bioterrain with friendly microbes. Does not contain flouride or soap. Vegan.

Designed to help support your body to


inhibit bacteria that cause cavities, plaque and gingivitis
alleviate gum pain & gum bleeding
whiten teeth


Well, I just read this and it is good to see someone making toothpaste to promote mouth bacteria -- they are important, and just like your gut you need to keep the good ones in to keep the bad ones out.

There is a link to the use of mouthwash and poor overall health, and the death of all mouth bacteria creating a deficiency in nitric oxide is the cause. Mouth bacteria are an important part of your body's own production of nitric oxide, which is extremely important for a vast range of processes within the body; particularly cardiovascular health.

Write-up on the studies is here: http://www.drnibber.com/nitric-oxide-still-the-heavy-weight-champion-in-health/

Pam
26th October 2014, 13:33
"...Crest toothpaste has been adding plastic micro beads to this witches brew." Big chuckle when I read this part, Peterpam.

I use to go for check-ups twice a year. Now I only need to go once and the visit doesn’t take that long. I canceled my dental insurance. I use this product: ”Oralive Toothpaste" from AscendedHealth.com (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/products_dentalcare.htm#gum-disease-01). It lasts about 8-10 months. It keeps my teeth white and there’s no plaque build up. I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

Ingredients (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm): 
Volcanic Earth Minerals, Vitamin C, Camu Camu, Amla, Calcium, Xylitol, Nettle, Folic Acid, CoQ 10, Marine Phytoplankton, Astaxanthin, Blue Green Algae, Pau D’Arco, Aloe Vera, Noni, Peppermint, Melissa, Arnica, Licorice, Mint, Turmeric, Holy Basil, Ginger. Essential Oils of Neroli, Jasmine, Spikenard, Rose.
Oralive Dental Regenerative Elixir

Description (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm): All natural oral balancing paste made of live edible clays, calcium, superfoods, oxygen, essential oils, deep ocean trace minerals, ancient probiotic bacteria. Helps reset oral bioterrain with friendly microbes. Does not contain flouride or soap. Vegan.

Designed to help support your body to


inhibit bacteria that cause cavities, plaque and gingivitis
alleviate gum pain & gum bleeding
whiten teeth


Well, I just read this and it is good to see someone making toothpaste to promote mouth bacteria -- they are important, and just like your gut you need to keep the good ones in to keep the bad ones out.

There is a link to the use of mouthwash and poor overall health, and the death of all mouth bacteria creating a deficiency in nitric oxide is the cause. Mouth bacteria are an important part of your body's on production of nitric oxide, which is extremely important for a vast range of processes within the body; particularly cardiovascular health.

Write-up on the studies is here: http://www.drnibber.com/nitric-oxide-still-the-heavy-weight-champion-in-health/


Deducshyn, you make some really powerful points here. It makes total sense that we need to honor the healthy bacteria in the mouth, really it is a part of the digestive system. Fortunately, there is now more awareness of the importance of healthy bacteria in the digestive system but there is a total disconnect in understanding that the mouth is a part of it.

There has been so much indoctrination to the masses telling us that we can't smell organic in anyway. Thus, the use of all kinds of products designed to cover or eradicate anything that smells of the life processes of the body. Have you ever gone into a store and marveled at all the products you can buy that are meant to separate us from our connection to the earth and all other living creatures?

Pris
26th October 2014, 17:45
"...Crest toothpaste has been adding plastic micro beads to this witches brew." Big chuckle when I read this part, Peterpam.

I use to go for check-ups twice a year. Now I only need to go once and the visit doesn’t take that long. I canceled my dental insurance. I use this product: ”Oralive Toothpaste" from AscendedHealth.com (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/products_dentalcare.htm#gum-disease-01). It lasts about 8-10 months. It keeps my teeth white and there’s no plaque build up. I use it once a day and Tom’s flouride-free toothpaste for the other times.

Ingredients (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm): 
Volcanic Earth Minerals, Vitamin C, Camu Camu, Amla, Calcium, Xylitol, Nettle, Folic Acid, CoQ 10, Marine Phytoplankton, Astaxanthin, Blue Green Algae, Pau D’Arco, Aloe Vera, Noni, Peppermint, Melissa, Arnica, Licorice, Mint, Turmeric, Holy Basil, Ginger. Essential Oils of Neroli, Jasmine, Spikenard, Rose.
Oralive Dental Regenerative Elixir

Description (http://www.ascendedhealth.com/gum-disease/gum_disease_remedy.htm): All natural oral balancing paste made of live edible clays, calcium, superfoods, oxygen, essential oils, deep ocean trace minerals, ancient probiotic bacteria. Helps reset oral bioterrain with friendly microbes. Does not contain flouride or soap. Vegan.

Designed to help support your body to


inhibit bacteria that cause cavities, plaque and gingivitis
alleviate gum pain & gum bleeding
whiten teeth


Well, I just read this and it is good to see someone making toothpaste to promote mouth bacteria -- they are important, and just like your gut you need to keep the good ones in to keep the bad ones out.

There is a link to the use of mouthwash and poor overall health, and the death of all mouth bacteria creating a deficiency in nitric oxide is the cause. Mouth bacteria are an important part of your body's on production of nitric oxide, which is extremely important for a vast range of processes within the body; particularly cardiovascular health.

Write-up on the studies is here: http://www.drnibber.com/nitric-oxide-still-the-heavy-weight-champion-in-health/


Deducshyn, you make some really powerful points here. It makes total sense that we need to honor the healthy bacteria in the mouth, really it is a part of the digestive system. Fortunately, there is now more awareness of the importance of healthy bacteria in the digestive system but there is a total disconnect in understanding that the mouth is a part of it.

There has been so much indoctrination to the masses telling us that we can't smell organic in anyway. Thus, the use of all kinds of products designed to cover or eradicate anything that smells of the life processes of the body. Have you ever gone into a store and marveled at all the products you can buy that are meant to separate us from our connection to the earth and all other living creatures?

Exactly.

Have you heard of the idea that we are the original Sumerians and we've been conned? Hence, 'consumer'? Our whole 'culture' is a fabricated joke set up by a few psychos. We've been brainwashed and manipulated since day one.

DeDukshyn
26th October 2014, 18:23
...

Exactly.

Have you heard of the idea that we are the original Sumerians and we've been conned? Hence, 'consumer'? Our whole 'culture' is a fabricated joke set up by a few psychos. We've been brainwashed and manipulated since day one.

The only difference between "culture", and "cult" is scale. ;)

Pam
26th October 2014, 18:59
Well then, consumer is the perfect name isn't it! It's sad to think that we perpetuate this charade with our hard earned money, most of us never having a clue as to what is going on. The brainwashing hits us at so many levels. Just another con that does two things, it reminds us that we are unworthy and unacceptable as we are, and funnels our resources and turns them over to the select few.

It can be discouraging, and there are times that I get so angry, it feels like being repeatedly violated, but there is one thing that keeps me going... I want to be here to watch this psycho reality crumble and I sure hope I get to.

Pris
26th October 2014, 20:02
Well then, consumer is the perfect name isn't it! It's sad to think that we perpetuate this charade with our hard earned money, most of us never having a clue as to what is going on. The brainwashing hits us at so many levels. Just another con that does two things, it reminds us that we are unworthy and unacceptable as we are, and funnels our resources and turns them over to the select few.

It can be discouraging, and there are times that I get so angry, it feels like being repeatedly violated, but there is one thing that keeps me going... I want to be here to watch this psycho reality crumble and I sure hope I get to.

Yes -- we've all been repeatedly violated!

It's all a charade.


...our hard earned money... Even using this 'terminology' is part of our brainwashing -- playing their money game and applying 'worth' or 'value' to everything.

Here are some examples. Is a stick of gold really more 'valuable' than an apple? Am I more 'valuable' than you? If I work hard at something, is that something to be 'judged' by its 'worth'? Who's to judge? This is all very subjective. However, if we accept that everything is of equal value and all of us are to be treated equally, that would be a great start!

All I know is the hardest I've ever worked (and the happiest I've ever been), I never got paid a penny. Money never motivated me and I didn't know why until I found out it was all a scam much later on. Money is a barrier set up between us and what we need and want. As you put it perfectly:


Just another con that does two things, it reminds us that we are unworthy and unacceptable as we are, and funnels our resources and turns them over to the select few.

Money also does this: it keeps us enslaved and in debt.

The fact that money (all forms of it including barter and trade) is a scam is one of the hardest lessons for people to 'get'.

Sorry, I think I'm getting a bit off-topic. ;)


I want to be here to watch this psycho reality crumble and I sure hope I get to.

Me, too!

Robin
26th October 2014, 20:58
Pris is right Kaneshk. Particularly the destroyed half broken tooth that had an infection. Teeth are notorious for brewing infections at the root and you might not feel the pain, so just because your pain went away there may still be bacteria doing damage to the area.

Hmmm...

It seems that I have at least two cavities at this point in time. I know it is not the toothpaste I've been using (baking soda and coconut oil), but rather, I have eaten too much sugar the last year. It's my fault for neglecting my teeth, and I'm starting to worry.

I don't have any money, and I most certainly do not have any type of insurance. I'm worried that these cavities will get worse and do heavier damage...but there isn't much I can do right now. I'd really like to take care of this problem, but if I do, it won't be for another six months or so, as I am very far removed from the Matrix.

Even if I had money, I'd still be hesitant to go visit a dentist. Does anybody know of a natural way to heal cavities that works...?

Sidney
26th October 2014, 21:13
Pris is right Kaneshk. Particularly the destroyed half broken tooth that had an infection. Teeth are notorious for brewing infections at the root and you might not feel the pain, so just because your pain went away there may still be bacteria doing damage to the area.

Hmmm...

It seems that I have at least two cavities at this point in time. I know it is not the toothpaste I've been using (baking soda and coconut oil), but rather, I have eaten too much sugar the last year. It's my fault for neglecting my teeth, and I'm starting to worry.

I don't have any money, and I most certainly do not have any type of insurance. I'm worried that these cavities will get worse and do heavier damage...but there isn't much I can do right now. I'd really like to take care of this problem, but if I do, it won't be for another six months or so, as I am very far removed from the Matrix.

Even if I had money, I'd still be hesitant to go visit a dentist. Does anybody know of a natural way to heal cavities that works...?

I found this Samwisethebrave. And a couple other articles with similar information. I have no way of knowing if it works or not. But I just googled curing tooth cavities without a dentist, and got a few hits.
http://wellnessmama.com/5629/cure-tooth-decay-book-review/

Pris
26th October 2014, 22:44
Pris is right Kaneshk. Particularly the destroyed half broken tooth that had an infection. Teeth are notorious for brewing infections at the root and you might not feel the pain, so just because your pain went away there may still be bacteria doing damage to the area.

Hmmm...

It seems that I have at least two cavities at this point in time. I know it is not the toothpaste I've been using (baking soda and coconut oil), but rather, I have eaten too much sugar the last year. It's my fault for neglecting my teeth, and I'm starting to worry.

I don't have any money, and I most certainly do not have any type of insurance. I'm worried that these cavities will get worse and do heavier damage...but there isn't much I can do right now. I'd really like to take care of this problem, but if I do, it won't be for another six months or so, as I am very far removed from the Matrix.

Even if I had money, I'd still be hesitant to go visit a dentist. Does anybody know of a natural way to heal cavities that works...?



I found this Samwisethebrave. And a couple other articles with similar information. I have no way of knowing if it works or not. But I just googled curing tooth cavities without a dentist, and got a few hits.
http://wellnessmama.com/5629/cure-tooth-decay-book-review/

I also found this:

http://wellnessmama.com/3650/remineralize-teeth/

And, there's this video from TheTrutherGirls:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5zsJYGIwGY

Sidney
27th October 2014, 01:06
Pris is right Kaneshk. Particularly the destroyed half broken tooth that had an infection. Teeth are notorious for brewing infections at the root and you might not feel the pain, so just because your pain went away there may still be bacteria doing damage to the area.

Hmmm...

It seems that I have at least two cavities at this point in time. I know it is not the toothpaste I've been using (baking soda and coconut oil), but rather, I have eaten too much sugar the last year. It's my fault for neglecting my teeth, and I'm starting to worry.

I don't have any money, and I most certainly do not have any type of insurance. I'm worried that these cavities will get worse and do heavier damage...but there isn't much I can do right now. I'd really like to take care of this problem, but if I do, it won't be for another six months or so, as I am very far removed from the Matrix.

Even if I had money, I'd still be hesitant to go visit a dentist. Does anybody know of a natural way to heal cavities that works...?



I found this Samwisethebrave. And a couple other articles with similar information. I have no way of knowing if it works or not. But I just googled curing tooth cavities without a dentist, and got a few hits.
http://wellnessmama.com/5629/cure-tooth-decay-book-review/

I also found this:

http://wellnessmama.com/3650/remineralize-teeth/

And, there's this video from TheTrutherGirls:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5zsJYGIwGY

WOW, That is a really well done video. so Bump!!! I think I will subscribe to her channel. Thanks Pris!!

Pris
27th October 2014, 02:25
You're welcome, Sidney! TheTrutherGirls really are (is) awesome. :) She's one heck of a whistleblower.

Pam
27th October 2014, 12:55
Well then, consumer is the perfect name isn't it! It's sad to think that we perpetuate this charade with our hard earned money, most of us never having a clue as to what is going on. The brainwashing hits us at so many levels. Just another con that does two things, it reminds us that we are unworthy and unacceptable as we are, and funnels our resources and turns them over to the select few.

It can be discouraging, and there are times that I get so angry, it feels like being repeatedly violated, but there is one thing that keeps me going... I want to be here to watch this psycho reality crumble and I sure hope I get to.

Yes -- we've all been repeatedly violated!

It's all a charade.


...our hard earned money... Even using this 'terminology' is part of our brainwashing -- playing their money game and applying 'worth' or 'value' to everything.

Here are some examples. Is a stick of gold really more 'valuable' than an apple? Am I more 'valuable' than you? If I work hard at something, is that something to be 'judged' by its 'worth'? Who's to judge? This is all very subjective. However, if we accept that everything is of equal value and all of us are to be treated equally, that would be a great start!

All I know is the hardest I've ever worked (and the happiest I've ever been), I never got paid a penny. Money never motivated me and I didn't know why until I found out it was all a scam much later on. Money is a barrier set up between us and what we need and want. As you put it perfectly:


Just another con that does two things, it reminds us that we are unworthy and unacceptable as we are, and funnels our resources and turns them over to the select few.

Money also does this: it keeps us enslaved and in debt.

The fact that money (all forms of it including barter and trade) is a scam is one of the hardest lessons for people to 'get'.

Sorry, I think I'm getting a bit off-topic. ;)


I want to be here to watch this psycho reality crumble and I sure hope I get to.

Me, too!


Pris,What you are saying is really profound for me. I really get what you are saying about value, and attaching a specific value to everything. I am going to really work with this and start observing how that works in my experience, I also want to observe how much of this "value" has been imprinted on me by this culture. I feel that this is a consciousness raising event for me.Thank you

The other thing that you said about the hardest work and the happiest you have ever been was when you were not getting paid, that is so true for me as well. Maybe part of that is stepping out of the value trap and moving into heartfelt, intuitive life.

I would love to say I value your wisdom but I don't think that is appropriate here....teehee

Pam
27th October 2014, 13:08
Pris is right Kaneshk. Particularly the destroyed half broken tooth that had an infection. Teeth are notorious for brewing infections at the root and you might not feel the pain, so just because your pain went away there may still be bacteria doing damage to the area.

Hmmm...



It seems that I have at least two cavities at this point in time. I know it is not the toothpaste I've been using (baking soda and coconut oil), but rather, I have eaten too much sugar the last year. It's my fault for neglecting my teeth, and I'm starting to worry.

I don't have any money, and I most certainly do not have any type of insurance. I'm worried that these cavities will get worse and do heavier damage...but there isn't much I can do right now. I'd really like to take care of this problem, but if I do, it won't be for another six months or so, as I am very far removed from the Matrix.

Even if I had money, I'd still be hesitant to go visit a dentist. Does anybody know of a natural way to heal cavities that works...?


I see Sidney and Pris have provided you with some really good info. I would like to add a little tip that might be of benefit as well and it sounds really mundane but works super well. Swish your mouth several times with water after you eat anything. It will clean out the food and remove the acid conditions that occur after eating. This is when the decay process occurs. I learned that from Paramahansa Yogananda who really offered a lot of healthful advice.

Pam
27th October 2014, 13:22
Pris is right Kaneshk. Particularly the destroyed half broken tooth that had an infection. Teeth are notorious for brewing infections at the root and you might not feel the pain, so just because your pain went away there may still be bacteria doing damage to the area.

Hmmm...

It seems that I have at least two cavities at this point in time. I know it is not the toothpaste I've been using (baking soda and coconut oil), but rather, I have eaten too much sugar the last year. It's my fault for neglecting my teeth, and I'm starting to worry.

I don't have any money, and I most certainly do not have any type of insurance. I'm worried that these cavities will get worse and do heavier damage...but there isn't much I can do right now. I'd really like to take care of this problem, but if I do, it won't be for another six months or so, as I am very far removed from the Matrix.

Even if I had money, I'd still be hesitant to go visit a dentist. Does anybody know of a natural way to heal cavities that works...?

I found this Samwisethebrave. And a couple other articles with similar information. I have no way of knowing if it works or not. But I just googled curing tooth cavities without a dentist, and got a few hits.
http://wellnessmama.com/5629/cure-tooth-decay-book-review/


Sidney, Great article!!!!! I thought I would post her remineralizing toothpaste recipe;



Homemade Remineralizing Toothpaste Ingredients:

5 parts Calcium powder
1 part Diatomaceous Earth (optional- contains trace minerals and silica. UPDATE: A reader noted that DE can be abrasive and is not needed with the baking soda, so if you don’t have DE… no worries!)
2 parts Baking Soda
3 parts Xylitol Powder- This ingredient is not completely necessary, but just keeps it from tasting bitter.
3-5 parts coconut oil to get desired texture
Optional ingredients: Essential oils for flavor (mint, cinnamon, and orange are all good), Grapefruit Seed Extract, Myrrh and Trace Minerals

Pris
29th October 2014, 20:35
Well then, consumer is the perfect name isn't it! It's sad to think that we perpetuate this charade with our hard earned money, most of us never having a clue as to what is going on. The brainwashing hits us at so many levels. Just another con that does two things, it reminds us that we are unworthy and unacceptable as we are, and funnels our resources and turns them over to the select few.

It can be discouraging, and there are times that I get so angry, it feels like being repeatedly violated, but there is one thing that keeps me going... I want to be here to watch this psycho reality crumble and I sure hope I get to.

Yes -- we've all been repeatedly violated!

It's all a charade.


...our hard earned money... Even using this 'terminology' is part of our brainwashing -- playing their money game and applying 'worth' or 'value' to everything.

Here are some examples. Is a stick of gold really more 'valuable' than an apple? Am I more 'valuable' than you? If I work hard at something, is that something to be 'judged' by its 'worth'? Who's to judge? This is all very subjective. However, if we accept that everything is of equal value and all of us are to be treated equally, that would be a great start!

All I know is the hardest I've ever worked (and the happiest I've ever been), I never got paid a penny. Money never motivated me and I didn't know why until I found out it was all a scam much later on. Money is a barrier set up between us and what we need and want. As you put it perfectly:


Just another con that does two things, it reminds us that we are unworthy and unacceptable as we are, and funnels our resources and turns them over to the select few.

Money also does this: it keeps us enslaved and in debt.

The fact that money (all forms of it including barter and trade) is a scam is one of the hardest lessons for people to 'get'.

Sorry, I think I'm getting a bit off-topic. ;)


I want to be here to watch this psycho reality crumble and I sure hope I get to.

Me, too!


Pris,What you are saying is really profound for me. I really get what you are saying about value, and attaching a specific value to everything. I am going to really work with this and start observing how that works in my experience, I also want to observe how much of this "value" has been imprinted on me by this culture. I feel that this is a consciousness raising event for me.Thank you

The other thing that you said about the hardest work and the happiest you have ever been was when you were not getting paid, that is so true for me as well. Maybe part of that is stepping out of the value trap and moving into heartfelt, intuitive life.

I would love to say I value your wisdom but I don't think that is appropriate here....teehee

That you suggest I have --errm-- wisdom... Gosh... thanks, peterpam! :o

All we can do is keep learning. I've been caught up in all the stupidity as much as everyone else.

Pris
29th October 2014, 20:48
Oh, by the way, everyone. We will no longer use 'Tom's Of Maine' (to avoid glycerin, SLS, and xylitol). So, to avoid those ingredients (including fluoride, of course), we just picked up our first tube of 'Redmond Earthpaste' (unsweetened). :biggrin1:

http://images.iherb.com/l/RTC-10570-1.jpg

I have a funny feeling about xylitol, so I'm avoiding it.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/xylitol-not-as-sweet-as-its-cracked-up-to-be/

DeDukshyn
29th October 2014, 22:54
Oh, by the way, everyone. We will no longer use 'Tom's Of Maine' (to avoid glycerin, SLS, and xylitol). So, to avoid those ingredients (including fluoride, of course), we just picked up our first tube of 'Redmond Earthpaste' (unsweetened). :biggrin1:

http://images.iherb.com/l/RTC-10570-1.jpg

I have a funny feeling about xylitol, so I'm avoiding it.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/xylitol-not-as-sweet-as-its-cracked-up-to-be/


Earth paste is great stuff, I have used it before -- way better than Tom's by a long shot.

And Xylitol is fine, it is just a simple sugar alcohol where the molecule is too big for A) excessive oral bacteria to feed off it - the bacteria actually die of starvation in the process of trying to consume it, and B) The molecule is a bit too big for it to get through most of your gut, so it has only a tiny amount of calories and doesn't elevate blood sugar.

I like how that article says: "just 1.5 grams of Xylitol can kill a hundred gram rat" - doubt that is true, but even if it is it's the same as saying, "just 1 kilo of Xylitol could kill a 75 kilo man" - one kilo of almost any specific compound would likely almost kill a "75 kilo man". There's not much research or evidence cited in that article - it is pretty much speculation - not that speculation can't be right.

The "gum" that could kill your child's rat is conveniently not named, and I checked Trident -- 0.17 grams per serving.

It is toxic to dogs as well as rats, so don't feed your dog xylitol. ;) The small amounts used in any toothpaste - considering one tends to not swallow toothpaste won't be an issue. All that said, I wouldn't use it as a sugar substitute ;)

Pris
30th October 2014, 00:50
Oh, by the way, everyone. We will no longer use 'Tom's Of Maine' (to avoid glycerin, SLS, and xylitol). So, to avoid those ingredients (including fluoride, of course), we just picked up our first tube of 'Redmond Earthpaste' (unsweetened). :biggrin1:

http://images.iherb.com/l/RTC-10570-1.jpg

I have a funny feeling about xylitol, so I'm avoiding it.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/xylitol-not-as-sweet-as-its-cracked-up-to-be/


Earth paste is great stuff, I have used it before -- way better than Tom's by a long shot.

And Xylitol is fine, it is just a simple sugar alcohol where the molecule is to big for A) excessive oral bacteria to feed off it - the bacteria actually die of starvation in the process of trying to consume it, and B) The molecule is a bit too big for it to get through most of your gut, so it has only a tiny amount of calories and doesn't elevate blood sugar.

I like how that article says: "just 1.5 grams of Xylitol can kill a hundred gram rat" - doubt that is true, but even if it is it's the same as saying, "just 1 kilo of Xylitol could kill a 75 kilo man" - one kilo of almost any specific compound would likely almost kill a "75 kilo man". There's not much research or evidence cited in that article - it is pretty much speculation - not that speculation can't be right.

The "gum" that could kill you child's rat is conveniently not named, and I checked Trident -- 0.17 grams per serving.

It is toxic to dogs as well as rats, so don't feed your dog xylitol. ;) The small amounts used in any toothpaste - considering one tends to not swallow toothpaste won't be an issue. All that said, I wouldn't use it as a sugar substitute ;)

Good points, DeDukshyn. Thanks for that.

I suppose it's kind of like, for example, table salt. Apparently, table salt is more toxic than Borax, but how many people know that? There's some serious misinformation going around so scare the pants off of people about Borax.... hmmm, wonder why? ;)

Anyway, back to this xylitol. I'm still going to steer clear of it (something about GMO corn...)... just in case... and because I can. Choice is great.


It is toxic to dogs as well as rats, so don't feed your dog xylitol.

And, don't feed your rat xylitol! Rats are one of my favourite rodents, and they happen to make great friends, too. So, let's not gloss over them. ;)

elearah
30th October 2014, 17:12
Hi :)
I brush with 2 activated drops of mms with a bit of water once a day, use oil pulling once a day (olive oil). And the rest of the day I just use water and/or chew mint leaves.
Yesterday saw a video by Jim Humble explaining how to use mms in gas form for cleaning the mouth. It sounds good but never tried it.

Pam
30th October 2014, 17:22
elear, thanks for the input. Is the mms used for the purpose of remineralizing or is it antimicrobial? By the way, welcome to PA!!!!!!

elearah
30th October 2014, 18:51
elear, thanks for the input. Is the mms used for the purpose of remineralizing or is it antimicrobial? By the way, welcome to PA!!!!!!

Thanks!!!!!!!! :D

It seems to kill anaerobic microbes of different types (virus, bacteria and fungus to certain extent). It also provides charges to the body and enhances mitochondrial function.

I have Hashimoto and it is tough in the mouth, the gums shrink and it bleeds a lot. I´m much better now.

This guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSfeNgh4XM8

claims it whitened his teeth and even one tooth auto-healed. But it is in Spanish.