The Georgia Guidestones have been updated w/ 2014

[Referee]

Creepy.............................

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[Tyy1907]

Be a good question for Simon Parkes. Course I'm sure we all know the answer.

[Ilie Pandia]

Likely this has been addressed somewhere... but how does such a huge "monument" just "mysteriously" show up some place :)?

And if nobody claims it's their or claims ownership and it's such a "nasty" in your face manifesto, how come nobody takes it down? That would sure piss off the "mysterious forces" that put it there, right? :)

I am just thinking out loud, but the continuing existence of this so called monument does it not represent a silent acceptance (and therefore agreement) to what it stands for? Someone "mysterious" put it there and nobody challenges that, we will just accept it 'cause it's a monument? Doesn't the mayor know about it? Weren't some paper signed, some licenses obtained or some such :)?

The continuing presence of this "statement in stone" (now updated for 2014!) is pretty creepy, but the strangest part is that we just accept it as it is... Why?

Aha... Wikipedia article answers most of my rant :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

[Atlas]

The photo below was uploaded on April 20, 2007:

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/1846806.jpg
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1846806

Another post from 2008 shows the same:
http://paisie.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/georgia_guidestones_english_75.jpg
http://paisie.wordpress.com/2008/01/15/stonehenge-ul-american-cele-10-porunci-ale-noii-ordini-mondiale/

In 2009, Van Smith (http://vanshardware.com/2009/12/decoding-the-georgia-guidestones/) posted:


a large notch was recently cut from the top of that Guidestone

http://www.vanshardware.com/uploaded_images/notch1-772664.jpg

http://www.vanshardware.com/uploaded_images/notch2-753675.jpg


Another poster noted that a video posted in 2011 shows the notch at 1:15:
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A blogger took this picture in July 2013:
http://acountrywalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/img_0915.jpg
http://acountrywalk.wordpress.com/2013/07/

So the hole exists since at least 2009 and was only filled in 2014... :confused:

[meat suit]

good point Illie..
anyone in the vicinity to bulldoz it?

[linksplatinum]

good point Illie..
anyone in the vicinity to bulldoz it?

I'm with that, blow that sh!t up, SERIOUSLY!

[IMSAGTP]

I'm about a two hour drive from the Guidestones and have been to see them personally. A little creepy to say the least.

The last time I was there, and I would assume nothing has changed, there was a security camera mounted on a pole along with a sign that informed that the premises were under constant CTV surveillance directly linked to the Sheriff's office.

I refrained from any acts of vandalism.

J

[Ilie Pandia]

OK, let me be clear about something :).

I am not advocating acts of vandalism. That will never solve anything other that making the "stones" right!

What I am saying is why isn't the mayor's office flooded with letters and people asking about this "mysterious" monument and why is it there in the public domain (if I got this right), why is not installed on the private property of the "sponsors group"?

In other words, why isn't massive disagreement expressed with the office of that land about these stones?

Blowing them up will not mean anything, they will be erected again or someplace else and this time with "good justification" to add guards to it!

Another question to ask the officials: who's paying to run that camera and maintain these stones? Is this done from tax payers money?

This kind of approach shows thoughtfulness, is done in broad daylight and expresses clearly the disagreement: we won't have this and whomever chooses to place these elsewhere will have a truck load of complaints to deal with! We don't have to take them down, we just need to get the officials take them down themselves, if they wish "as mysteriously as they have erected them" :)

[araucaria]

This was erected on March 22 1980. March 22 is 322 a number associated with Skull & Bones

27300


http://rense.com/general90/weid.htm

They are dead right: overpopulation is their major worry. It is said that it is due to every soul with past lives coming in at this time, and together we have the power to put a stop to all this nonsense.

[heyokah]

The way this is 'added on', if nothing happens in 2014, they can switch it out for a '2015' cube ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K_cuMDyHFc

[Sith73]

somebody needs to drive a big bulldozer up there and knock that structure down or dynamite the dam thing

[NoNeedForAName]

The way this is 'added on', if nothing happens in 2014, they can switch it out for a '2015' cube ?

The people who built the guidestones seem to like symmetry. I wouldn't strange if, in the next years, they will add other blocks, one for each stone. Then, maybe the 2014 block just marks the beginning of a period.

[Atlas]

There is still one man who knows the identity of the man who ordered the stones, his name is Wyatt Martin.




Wyatt Martin in his home in Greensboro, Ga., one hour south of Elberton. The 82-year-old banker involved in the Guidestones' deal is the only man to know the benefactor's actual name. He swore on the Bible to keep the secret until his death.

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000wZ3YIly5k8g/fit=1000x750/DSC7851.jpg

[Sidney]

Oh, the big bad biblical excuse. Lol , and he's a banker. That should tell you something.

[Atlas]

Oh, the big bad biblical excuse. Lol , and he's a banker. That should tell you something.

The Bible might be a way for him to tell us that the stones indeed have a Rosicrucian/Freemason/Skull&Bones/what-have-you origin... :confused:

(The guy who ordered the stones had a nickname: R.C. Christian which sounds like Christian Rosenkreuz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Rosenkreuz), the legendary, perhaps allegorical, founder of the Rosicrucian Order)

[Sidney]

It seems to me that the guide stones cannot be taken seriously. The only thing on them that we know they are trying to achieve is the depopulation. All the other stuff has obviously been thrown to the wayside. For example, the total and constant disrespect for nature, and fair laws?? Really?lol
And. The really good one,,,,avoid useless officials......
Is that really something the skull and bones would think up? Rotflmao

[araucaria]

There is still one man who knows the identity of the man who ordered the stones, his name is Wyatt Martin.




Wyatt Martin in his home in Greensboro, Ga., one hour south of Elberton. The 82-year-old banker involved in the Guidestones' deal is the only man to know the benefactor's actual name. He swore on the Bible to keep the secret until his death.

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000wZ3YIly5k8g/fit=1000x750/DSC7851.jpg
If this guy has a guilty conscience but is unwilling to break his banking secrecy, the traditional method of getting round this is to talk to a screen – which is how Enki reportedly informed Noah of the coming flood – or to a hole in the ground, who is how the world came to hear of King Midas’s asses ears (a reed grew in the hole and moaned the message in the wind). Contemporary equivalents might include talking into a microphone when supposedly not on air, talking into a voicemail without disconnecting your cellphone – ways can be found to get this info out without disrespect to the Good Book. If he hasn’t got a guilty conscience, he needs someone to explain to him why he should, and why at 82 it would help him prepare to meet his Maker in the not too distant future.

[Delight]

I just do not see what is so wrong with the precepts? This has nothing to do with anything terribly bad IMo and if this is the year to reason through what these guidelines intend, why not? The only one that speaks to a number is the population. I know that given the opportunity, people who know their children will live when birthed and raised, who are not compelled by religion to populate in large numbers, who do not depend on subsistence agriculture and who are able to choose education and interesting work have many fewer children OR NONE (like me)

IMO the reactions of alarm seem fearful.

“LET THESE BE GUIDESTONES TO AN AGE OF REASON”

1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

2. GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY – IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY

3. UNITE HUMANITY WITH A LIVING NEW LANGUAGE

4. RULE PASSION – FAITH – TRADITION – AND ALL THINGS WITH TEMPERED REASON

5. PROTECT PEOPLE AND NATIONS WITH FAIR LAWS AND JUST COURTS

6. LET ALL NATIONS RULE INTERNALLY RESOLVING EXTERNAL DISPUTES IN A WORLD COURT

7. AVOID PETTY LAWS AND USELESS OFFICIALS

8. BALANCE PERSONAL RIGHTS WITH SOCIAL DUTIES

9. PRIZE TRUTH – BEAUTY – LOVE- SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE INFINITE

10. BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH – LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE – LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/58409/images/block.jpg

[Hervé]

I just do not see what is so wrong with the precepts? This has nothing to do with anything terribly bad IMo and if this is the year to reason through what these guidelines intend, why not? The only one that speaks to a number is the population. I know that given the opportunity, people who know their children will live when birthed and raised, who are not compelled by religion to populate in large numbers, who do not depend on subsistence agriculture and who are able to choose education and interesting work have many fewer children OR NONE (like me)

IMO the reactions of alarm seem fearful.

“LET THESE BE GUIDESTONES TO AN AGE OF REASON”

1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

[...]

What do these highlighted words mean to you?

Once you've answered the above question, then attempt to answer this one:

What does it imply to a current 7 billions population?

[Delight]

Edit

Though the Guidestones are on public land now some private party paid for it.(The Elbert County land registration system shows what appears to be the Guidestones as County land purchased on October 1, 1979), it is now a tourist attraction so that would probably have been agreeable.


On Christian's behalf, Martin purchased fives acres of land atop the highest hill in the county for $5000 from farmer Wayne Mullenix, who subsequently acted as contractor laying the foundation for the monument. The six granite slabs were cut, drilled, lettered, and positioned according to the specifications, and unveiled on March 22, 1980. About 400 curious onlookers attended the opening.http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4198

The first three precepts may not be at all what people project as scary. How do we know what the somewhat suggestive but vague words really mean except for the population number? Even that could be pointing to a civilization that naturally would have fewer people by far. IMO it is not necessarily meant as an undermining conspiracy but just what it states...a suggestion of what some (one) thought would be REASON based society?

People who are very conscious and in a social structure that supports everyone is like the movie the Green Beautiful (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/157826/La_Belle_Verte__The_Green_Beautiful_English_Subtitles/)

People ARE likely to choose few children when the pressure to reproduce is removed.

If a wide range of genetic diversity (opposite of inbreeding) creates the most healthy beautiful children (the lovely rearrangement in the mutt factor IMO is true), THIS is leading to organic fitness IMO.

What is meant by Universal language? f the language is a living arranging of principles like math, geometry and computer code, and there is geometry in the lay out. And why have it written various languages if in the future we are are meant to have just one??

REASON is a beautiful capacity and includes perception, intuition and analysis IMO.

[araucaria]

What overpopulation really means to the überrich elite. It has nothing to do with the health of the planet or the people, and everything to do with the loss of their outrageous supremacy. A banker’s sob story: ‘Asians eating our lunch and dinner’. ‘The 80:20 rule is going to be a 35:65 rule, and that puts a challenge of dramatic proportions to anybody who’s at a business school today or graduating.’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwZwkhFemQ

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[Tyy1907]

"Maintain humanity under 500,000,000"

Lets analyze this one. What do they mean by "maintain"? Ask yourself that. Ask who wrote it? Oh wait, apparently he's "unavailable". Oh I see, biblical principles. Well now I guess it's all fine then. Nevermind that part that talks about keeping the world pop. Under 500,000,000.

"Guide reproduction"? What do they mean by that? Guide it wisely, then on about diversity and fitness. How would the "authorities" guide reproduction? Is it not a free will thing?

[Delight]

Inelia Benz has her finger on the collective pulse IMO. I am adding this here as it seems to me that dissonance is generated by what could be neutral reasonable content in this particular case of the Guidestones. If youcould place a monumnet for generations to come, what would you say? Have each of us crafted our position statement?

There is a really big discussion always on PA and elsewhere about what would benefit the collective experience. IMO the discussion is tainted by reactionary loyalty to lack and fear as the basic human orienting motive. Does this stance perpetuate our dilemma of fixation in the states this bias generates.

Even on PA, there is a call for a new choir to sing a new song and at the same reworking of old ideas that contradict a new emphasis. This is a split collective movement.

To be so caught up in fear and lack is UN reasonable IMO. It is UN necessary and nature wll show us its fallacy. A dissonant approach could boil down to ego driven insistence on outworn ideas, even when they no longer work for us. What supports continuing to approach life in the same way when that strategy does not support us? Someone called it insanity...it is not reason.

I see this bias works to undermine my own personal experience. I appreciate the Guide Stones not as a threat or a truth but a basic position of principles to then ponder and adopt based on reason. If this group or man spoke to how they heard a song of reason and made a monument to this vision, should we not ask ourselves if we can agree to sing any part versus shun a whole?



In 2011 a separation occurred in the human collective. Those who wanted to have a fear free, empowered, aware, awake reality of physical incarnation, and those who didn't. Gaia has actively been pushing for a physical separation that is done through time, three generations, and is trauma free and gentle. We, the human collective, however, have been pushing for a fast and furious separation.

Various people, and environments I find myself in, have mentioned WWIII, and other doomsday scenarios. I am presently in various conversations via email, txt, physical and at WalkWithMeNow.com, about this topic.

It appears, very strongly, that a fast physical separation of realities is being chosen by our collective. How this comes about, well, that's what we are playing with at the moment. What we are deciding on.

Most of the people on Earth will interpret and manifest the choice depending on what is real to them. What choices they see as real.

One thing to remember is that no one chooses for us, or chooses us, there is no chosen people. No targeted people. It is each person who chooses for themselves. If you are working on yourself, you have chosen an empowered reality, it is that simple......

....... there is a third option manifesting. It's is so outside of our reality scale that it needs to be observed.

Basically, light and dark can and do exist without the other. In fact, that's the only way they can exist. We can see both because there is both existing separately from each other in our world. There is also a reality where neither exists.

And something that is just appearing in our awareness, is a reality where they both exist as One. Not light and dark making grey, but making a color that is not in our spectrum. Not a reality where they neutralize or mesh, but where a new element emerges.

The urge to separate to different realities seems to be somehow related to the emergence of this new vibration. It is almost like if we don't separate now, we will be all gobbled up into the new element and that is so unknown, so different, so "not human" that we are pushing our choice hard now. Do you feel fear? Fear could be a pull to familiar surrounds.

Do we feel a desire to find out more? A way, perhaps to explore where other's have not gone before.

The only way we can stay clear, and keep our choice conscious, is to actively pursue resonance, and actively not engage in dissonance.The Splitting of the Worlds - Coming to a planet near You! (https://ascension101.com/en/home/free-articles/97-september-2014/467-the-spliting-of-the-worlds-coming-to-a-planet-near-you.html)

[Sidney]

Let's face it. We have the Vatican spewing that birth control is going against god. And then the guide stones stating otherwise, and here's this old fart holding the holy bible, stating "I know who i did it but I'm not telling, nanny nanny booboo. Its a dog and pony show.

Does this thing sit on a ley line? What purpose does this thing serve, that nobody would think of in a million years.

Me thinks this thing is hiding something totally unrelated.
Hidden in plain sight. But what?

[Atlas]

and here's this old fart holding the holy bible, stating "I know who i did it but I'm not telling, nanny nanny booboo.

lol, made me laugh. ;)

I just realised that there are 10 guidelines, a kind of remake of the 10 commandments ? and they omit the money factor, totally. Now, I am suspecting a hoax of some kind...

[Delight]

1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

[...][

What do these highlighted words mean to you?

Once you've answered the above question, then attempt to answer this one:

What does it imply to a current 7 billions population?

I didn't see you had addressed me directly.

I think these words mean that the crafters of the monument thought this is a number that would support the precepts they value. Are they correct? I personally do not know but it seems very small. I would not see that as the magic number at all.

But I do see this as a direct contradiction of the three Abrahamic religions which all imply humans are to go out and dominate the earth. So, my perception is that ethos of the builders was that mankind not be a dominant species.

If one assumes it is a threat to depopulate the earth, it looks different than WHAT IF we had a world where people were not so interested in reproduction of the species but had other values?

If there are 8 billion people now, how long before we reached a low population? If people assume it is NOW, that is different than in several generations. I don't have stats.

I see it as a long term potential for a big difference in what is appreciated as human/all speices/ GAIA relationship.

Also, that is such a small number, I think it implies no wars and health.
It implies good communication and almost an intimacy with each one human and all others.
I see that it has many possible meanings. Thanks for asking. Maggie

[Hervé]

Well, here my views on it:



"1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE"

That's the only message I have a real problem with.

Tell me, how do you reduce a population from 7 billion to 500 million if not through genocide?

[...]

I don't know why but, for some reasons, individuals who read that statement keep missing the implication it contains:

"MAINTAIN... UNDER... XYZ..." basically it implies never to let the population go over that number... which means that the original left-over population grows from far below that limit number... that is, far below 500 millions!



What bugs me with the first guideline (Maintain humanity under 500,000,000....) is that it indicates a repopulation to be maintained below that number... that means the starting number could very well be 0 (zero -- implying a new seeding from elsewhere) or a few 1000s or may be a few millions but, in any case, from somewhere below 500 millions.

That's a total wipe out!

Yet, there is the assumption that the remaining people or new incoming ones would be able to read/decipher those inscriptions... unless it's to be used as some sort of Rosetta Stone by future archeologists as a starting point to unravel a fossilized Vatican library?

The other interesting thing is it doesn't advocate the interbreeding dear to the aristocratic or religious bloodlines, to the contrary.... And the rest of it is actually in the face of the current NWO advocates and their agenda: seen any evidence of just courts lately? Useful officials? Promotion of truth? Etc.

[Hervé]

As for that 5[00] million figure; what's the math behind it?

Simple:



500 families
each family allowed 1 million relatives as "chosen ones"

That's that!



The followings from Sue Arrigo's case 26 "Your sickness and genocide" (http://avalonlibrary.net/Sue_Arrigo/Case%2026%20Your%20Sickness%20and%20Genocide%20Planned%20in%20the%20USA.pdf) exposes what's occurring around the world, from Fukushima to the various type of diabetes tied to hypothyroidism, directly from the horse's mouth:


In CIA researcher Robert Morrow’s book First Hand Knowledge he says that he was asked by the CIA to find a way to disable or kill all Americans except those that were able to get a life-saving drug that the Shadow Government could control. He decided that the best way to do that would be to cause hypothyroidism and control the supply of thyroid replacement medication. In fact, there has been a growing epidemic of hypothyroidism in the US. Some scientists attribute that to the above ground nuclear explosions at the Nevada Test site. It has been estimated that 60,000 new cases of thyroid cancer resulted from those tests. Meanwhile, people’s ability to buy desiccated animal thyroid supplement over the counter has disappeared. While such events could be coincidences, the research that I read led me to conclude that the Shadow Govt. sincerely wanted to have that kind of control over people’s health and lives and were working slowly and steadily towards that goal. When they are vigorously opposed by consumer groups they suffer setbacks in their agenda. Such setbacks have been many.If people only understood how dependent they are on the ignorance and apathy of the public, they would tell all their friends and neighbors and stop the Shadow Government’s control over the population.

Although it is difficult to believe that the Robber Barons would target Americans, and not just foreigners, it is true. I have supplied you with a bit of the evidence of that in other cases, such as the Ludlow Massacre of American women and children in Case 22A, and the unsafe addition of benzoate/benzoic acid, aspartame/Nutrasweet/Equal to sodas. If you read former US intelligence insider Al Martin’s The Conspirators, the US Shadow Govt. under Bush, Sr. as Vice President, had a contingency plan to cause a limited nuclear war in order to have an excuse to impose martial law. Al Martin was briefed on that plan, Operation Orpheus, by Col. Ollie North of Iran Contra Scandal infamy. Al Martin asked Ollie North how many American lives the US Administration planned to expend in that limited nuclear war. Ollie North said, “It is just a number.” When Al Martin pressed him on what the number was he said, “50 to 70 million Americans.” If that is how many would die, how many would be left sick afterwards? Those who survived would be at high risk of cancer. And essentially all of those downwind from it would become hypothyroid and would only be able to function if they were able to obtain thyroid supplements from the drug companies. Those supplements could be rationed or made so expensive that only those who were loyal to the Robber Barons could get them.

The US Administration has been making many new germs and using the vaccines only for their own use. The HIV virus is a BioWarfare germ which was developed at Fort Detrick.

‘Over the past two decades there have been only a handful of other physicians and health professionals who have had the courage to alert the public to evidence that AIDS is man-made (namely Robert Strecker MD, William Campbell Douglass MD, Eva Snead MD, and Leonard G Horowitz DDS)’ and Dr. Alan Cantwell author of Queer Blood. http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-evidence-hiv-was-man-made-bio.html (http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-evidence-hiv-was-man-made-bio.html)

It was tested under the supervision of CIA officer Jim Jones on US blacks, hispanics, and Native Americans at Jonestown British Guiana. I met Jim Jones in the halls of the CIA after that. He did not die in that CIA mass murder atrocity that killed over 900 people. Most were not so well mind controlled as to ‘voluntarily commit suicide on cue’. Please read the book “Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? by Robert Meier for more information. HIV did not accidently escape from Fort Detrick; it was intentionally used to target populations, mainly blacks and Third World people. For example, HIV infected units of blood were sent to sickle cell clinics in Africa, put in vaccines used in Africa, India, Thailand, etc. But, infected blood was also wittingly sent by the Shadow govt. to Canada with the intention of infecting that population as well. The Robber Barons only consider the top 500 wealthiest families in the world to be “their own”. In their agenda, they want to allow each of those families to have a million relatives on the face of the earth and wipe out all the other people. That can be done by creating new germs and taking safe vaccines to them, while withholding those vaccines from everyone else. Thus, they have developed a vaccine against HIV which they have taken but hidden from the rest of the world. In my report to Tenet, I stated that this was a crime against humanity which was being perpetuated on a daily basis. After he read my report, I asked him what he was going to do about all those crimes against humanity, as each new germ represented one. He hemmed and hawed and then offered lamely that he was not the one making the decision. I asked him who was. He did not answer that question directly. He said, “Well, you can come with me to the next Presidential briefing in the morning and discuss it with Bush, if you think that it will do any good.”

I doubted it would do any good, but in the interests of thoroughness I did it anyway. I took with me a large stake of my report. My report was over 225 pages with a couple hundred pages of supporting documents. So, each report was almost a ream width of paper. I put 10 of them in a box to take with me. Both Cheney and Bush were at that Presidential briefing that morning. And Rice was called into it when I started giving my briefing on the poor quality of the research done at the BioWarfare Labs. At the end of my almost 12 minutes, I concluded with my recommendation that all the labs be closed down.

Bush, Jr. said to me, “We wanted to know how to make the research more effective. What are your recommendations to do that?”

I asked him, “More effective in what way?” That was a loaded question because they did not want to come out and say in front of the many foreign bugs likely to be in the Oval Office, “At killing off most of the people in the world so we can have all the resources of the planet for just our own children.” So, there was a brief uncomfortable silence.

Then Cheney said, “You know what we want. What do we have to do to get the level of science up to be able to accomplish it?”

I started off on the tangent of how to make the research safe enough to even do and recommended tongue in cheek that it at least be moved off shore to join their investments. Rice laughed at that. The others did not. They wanted the BioWarfare Labs on US soil to be able to claim an accidental release when one was intentional. That suggested to me that Rice was not as close into the loop on the actual agenda as the others.

Cheney then said to me “Just get to the point and tell us what needs to be done to get the kill ratios up to usable to immobilize a whole population.”

I said, “Of healthy well fed soldiers or starving villagers?”

He said, “Assume a healthy population’.

Then Bush, Jr. added in “What does it take to kill everyone who isn’t vaccinated? Can’t we just use several germs at the same time?”

Cheney frowned at that because Bush had said more than was wise for plausible deniability. He tried to cover for Bush and added, “In the event of war.”

I said, “We are in a war now. It is likely that MiddleEasterners have different susceptibility rates than Westerners.”

Bush, Jr. said, “Well, we want to be able to cover all bases.”

Tenet rolled his eyes up to the ceiling at Bush’s continued faux pas.

Rice tried to rescue him this time and said, “This is just theoretical so that we understand all facets of the problem.”

Bush leapt back in and said, “No, I really need to know in case I decide to launch this globally.”

Cheney got up and left the room, apparently because Bush had said too much and he didn’t want to be implicated by what else Bush said. But that did not help Cheney because the next thing that Bush, Jr. said was ‘Cheney and I already discussed this before you came this morning and we are of the same mind on it. We want the capacity to wipe out all of the “lesser beings” on the planet.’

I played dumb and asked him how he defined that.

He said, “You know, all those who are not members of the CFR already”

“And their families?” I offered.

“Well, not all of them,” he said. “You know The List.”

I handed him a copy of it to make sure that we were talking about the same list. He nodded yes, and repeated “What do we have to do to get down to just those people?”

I told him that their current plans were not good because the science was so faulty that even if you used multiple germs that those people had already received the vaccines on, that the number of people left alive were likely to overwhelm all defenses and overrun and kill the perpetrators.

“That means us, doesn’t it?” he asked.

Rice was shifting uncomfortably in her chair--apparently she knew that her family was not on that list.

I said, “Yes. And I don’t think that you can improve the research quality at the Labs without inspiring a culture of honesty in them first.”

“How do we do that?” he asked.

“Leadership” I replied. “Model the behavior that you want them to have by being honest.”

“What about incentives? Cash incentives?”, he asked.

“You already have such a system in place. The researchers know that they can get an extra $100,000 by creating a new germ. It is not improving the quality of the research, it is only making more germs.”

“But then we will succeed by having lots of them!” he asserted.

“No, lots of them are “me too” germs and they can cause the body to develop immunity to many of the other germs in the program.”

“Then we can imprison all those who don’t do good research, to improve the quality. How long should they be imprisoned for?”

“I really don’t think that will work either”, I said. “They will get more devious, but not more honest.

We went around in circles like this for a while. Finally, Tenet said it was getting late.

Bush ended by saying, “I don’t think my being more honest is a good idea. People would find out the truth. I think that you better explain this to Rockefeller as I sure don’t want to have to. He is going to be very disappointed in you. You are failing to make this work the way we want it to. I don’t think that will be good for your health, if you keep on resisting us in this.”

Cheney came back in as Tenet and I were about to leave. I gave him, Bush, and Rice copies of my report. I also left a copy for Rumsfeld, the Head of the JCS, and others until I had none left.

Cheney said, “You expect us to read this?” I said, “The first 5 pages are the executive summary. The rest is to prove what I said in those 5 pages.”

Bush said, “Oh, I can read that much” and picked his copy back up off the side table he had set it on. Then he said to me vehemently, “This better deliver what I want or you will be sorry when Rockefeller hears of it.”

Cheney said to Bush, “Don’t worry. We have others to replace her.”

The next month they had 3 other people review the BioWarfare Lab’s research without first giving them my report. Those 3 people said much the same that I did--the science at the BioWarfare Labs was seriously flawed and untrustworthy.

Since the Shadow Govt. intends to make new germs to kill off 11 out of every 12 people, without exempting Americans, please inform your friends and neighbors to mobilize to stop. Use non-violent protests like Martin Luther King, Jr. taught us to do. There is still enough time. The poor science at those BioWarfare Labs means that the Shadow Government cannot count on a single of their exclusive vaccines working well to protect them. All they have is Yes men saying they will work. They are poorly tested because they wanted to hide the fact that they have made those germs. What they have is a 3-Stooges type of genocide by germ warfare plan.

The US Administration has not even been able to get the Iraqi people clean water and electricity after 5 years. Hitler was able to consolidate his gains into workable occupations and move onto to invading the next country using his success in the first countries. The current administration does not have the skill needed to have a single successful occupation after more time than the US spent fighting WWII. They think that they can lie their way to success by just declaring “Mission Accomplished”.

As I said before, Skull and Bones, the Rockefeller Family and the Illuminati in general worship death and believe that the gods they worship are pleased by it. They believe that their gods grant them favors, such as wealth, in proportion to how well they provide fear, anger, and ritual human sacrifices for them to feed off of. This is standard Aztec human sacrifice kind of magical thinking. Never mind that the Aztecs, the Druids, and Incans, that practiced such human sacrifices were ultimately unsuccessful as societies. They still appealed to the Pirates of Skull and Bones and the pseudo-mystical Illuminati. These people are not scientists. They do not have the patience for. They just want to rape and plunder populations without having to think too much about it.

Later I had a discussion with David Rockefeller over this Illuminati intended genocide of most of the planet’s population. That was shortly after Tenet resigned from the CIA but had not yet been replaced. So, McLaughlin was acting Director of CIA. And I had accompanied him to a Washington DC evening meeting at which David Rockefeller was present. After the meeting, McLaughlin and Rockefeller had a private meeting in which I was present mainly as a note taker. But since it touched on the expansion of the US BioWarfare programs, I was unable to keep my mouth firmly shut. Thus, I objected to the expansion and said so in no uncertain terms. Rockefeller accused me of subverting his plans to “purge the world of its shaff.” I said “Other people are not disposable coverings of grain”. He said, “Of course, they are. They are as unnecessary to this planet as extra bolts in a factory which is done making the equipment. There is nothing left to do with them than throw them out when one is done with their usefulness.” I bristled at that. McLaughlin tried to change the subject to defuse the situation. Rockefeller then said something that I did not expect. He said, “Don’t worry. I will have statues made of me that look like Christ so you can still have something to worship.” I was so shocked that I dropped the subject.

God gives life. Destroying life doesn’t make one a god, it makes one a murderer! If a person thinks that there are too many people on the planet then they should refrain from having children, not go around murdering others like criminals. Christ had no children. There is nothing wrong with practicing celibacy as a way of life.

Later, I found that not only had David Rockefeller commissioned bronzes of people jumping out of the WTC on 911, but he had commissioned bronzes of himself which looked like religious statues to worship. Because I found photos of them inside the CIA’s David Rockefeller Audio-Visual Center, I took them down to the CIA’s photo ID dept. I asked about 10 people in that dept. who the person represented in the statue was. The statue was textured on the face making it unclear whether the figure was bearded or not. Three of them said Rockefeller, though one of those said Nelson, not David. Most said a saint and two of them said, “Jesus”. That is how well the sculptor accomplished David Rockefeller’s wish to be immortalized as a Christ like figure while planning genocide to kill off 5.5 billion people!

But apparently he was not alone in that wish because Prince Phillip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II said,“If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

[Robin]

Again with the human overpopulation debate and the vitriolic response to the Guidestones...it never ends.

The Guidestones have been discussed many times before on Avalon, and most members are too quick to accuse whoever erected the stones of being villains who are out to drop nukes on everybody. I understand why this response would be so popular here, but I think that it is wise to take a step back and view the Guidestones in their entirety, objectively, without emotional attachment.

When you really think about it, what the Guidestones have inscribed on them are beautiful ideals. The one that always stands out is, of course, the ideal human population number. People assume strait away that this means that the "Elite" intend to wipe out billions of people to achieve this number.

First of all, who is saying that the person/people who erected these stones are part of the Satanic manipulation of this planet? For all we know, it could have been erected by somebody who is trying to make the planet a better place, with the intention of this human population number to be something to strive for naturally and out of free will.

And why not? It sounds like a good number to strive for to be proper stewards of this planet. To get down to that number, we don't have to drop nukes on humans. We don't even have to make a law to require people to only have one child.

Really, once humans understand the nature of our reality and recognize that they are sovereign beings who have been manipulated for a long time, and that we are powerful spirits, it may simply come natural in the future for people to maintain a stable population number.

Once we become united and remove our shackles and increase education and awareness to every individual, we can reach 500,000,000 in the distant future naturally. It's simple: everybody collectively understands our dire situation and feels the emotions of the earth, and decides to make decisions of their own free will, out of a service-to-others desire to seriously help humanity and the planet, and does what it takes to be proper stewards of this planet (which may include choosing out of free will to have one child).

[Operator]

About bulldozing it down ... common law is about not damaging property of someone else. Do we respect that?

What I was wondering is that the property it is on must be owned by someone. It must be possible to get a name
and ask for an explanation. That person (legal entity) must have sanctioned to place it there.

What should happen more often is that we demand responsibility from the appropriate authorities. Same as with
9/11 ... I say it again: it doesn't matter who did what ... Demand a clarification because the official storyline is
bunch of baloney.

[Cidersomerset]

What overpopulation really means to the überrich elite. It has nothing to do with the health of the planet or the people, and everything to do with the loss of their outrageous supremacy. A banker’s sob story: ‘Asians eating our lunch and dinner’. ‘The 80:20 rule is going to be a 35:65 rule, and that puts a challenge of dramatic proportions to anybody who’s at a business school today or graduating.’

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They are mostly the ones now bought up by China since the US first wanted to beat them to the punch.

I posted an article on Bobs other thread in a similar context....I have been hearing
from various sources among discussions in vids I've watched/listened to over te
past few years that China has had direct backing from one ET group since the
mid 1990's ( As are alleged other countries from earlier on going contacts)
Whether this is connected with Chinas Africa strategy who knows ?


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China Is Africa's New Colonial Overlord

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Also there is advanced technology that is being suppressed in
the secret space programme etc.....This has happened over
the last century. If this was released the population issue
may be looked at differently.....

Three Suppressed Technologies that Could Revolutionize Daily Life

Sunday 21st September 2014 at 05:06 By david-icke

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‘The US has a long history of suppressing technologies in an effort to help
government aligned corporations extend their profits. This history dates
back over 100 years which we will outline — in part — in this article.

Nikola Tesla

Nikola Tesla, the man who discovered how to useAlternating Current
(AC) electricity, has many rumors surrounding his life. Born in 1856,
he has basically disappeared from the history books, only for people
to rediscover his work thanks to the internet.

He was a well known inventor in his time, first arriving in America to
work for Thomas Edison. He later branched out on his own in disgust
of Thomas Edison’s business practices. A rivalry between Tesla and
Edison soon became apparent as the debate over AC/DC electricity
heated up. Tesla, who ended up winning the debate, argued that AC
electricity was more efficient and cost effective, which was true.’

Read more: Three Suppressed Technologies that Could Revolutionize Daily Life
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/09/20/3-suppressed-technologies-revolutionize-daily-life/

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[Cidersomerset]

If You want a nice conspiracy theory that may possibly tie in with the Guide stones,
a couple of posts on a thread Bob posted....

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Re: Military Intervention being discussed to stop the spread..

Hi Bob I know this is off the wall and pure 'rabbit hole ' stuff, but what keeps coming
to mind is the possible clearance of Africa. I know this is unlikely and illogical but......

In Kerry's Project Camelot interview with Captain Philips , she says he told her that
Africa has been given to a ET race to colonise.

I don't know if it was part or the whole continent. This does sound far fetched
but if there was nuclear war involving Israel . The of the battle of Armageddon
on the plains of Meggido set up by TPTB. This could effect areas of North Africa
if designed to do so.

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West , Central and Eastern Africa by the spread of Ebola.

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I know cures are being developed and tested and some already work , and there
are plenty of other theories to what is going on with Ebola .....
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Is the Aids virus still rampant in South Africa ?

NEW YORK TIMES....

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/health/aids-south-africa-success-pepfar.html?_r=0


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It just so happened some of the passengers on MH17 were experts going to an Aids conference

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This is all speculation and probably wrong. But you must admit its a script to a classic sky fy thriller movie...LOL

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Oh there was one a few years ago set in South Africa about Aliens landing there...


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Africa has also been connected in the past with the Annunaki and the Dogon and probably
many others. The TV series the EVENT some say was a partial disclosure of a upcoming
scenario and it was weird how it was cancelled after one season just as the worlds were
about to come together either in a very close orbit or collision ? I cannot remember which....

I also cannot remember if Kerry said the new ET's to colonise Africa are a new group or old ?

I'm just throwing it into the pot....LOL

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The Event season 1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=ELcNSqzUldAXU


Part of the finale plot was about a 'biological weapon'....Just saying how the TPTB are supposed to put all upcoming events in the public eye so to speak ......

The Event "The Arrival"

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The Dogons: An extraordinary set of people from Mali, West Africa have baffled
Nasa Astronauts and well known Rocket Scientists around the world with their
sophisticated and advanced knowledge of the universe. The Dogon are believed to
be of Egyptian decent fleeing religious persecutions and their astronomical lore
goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. The Dogon star, which scientists call
Sirius B, wasn't even photographed until it was done by a large telescope in 1970.
How did the Dogon gain this knowledge thousands of years ago without any known
ancient telescopes yet to be found???????

DOGONS also found that the INVISIBLE star (sirius B) had an elliptical orbit of 60
years around sirius A as well as an orbit of 1 year on it's own axis, as well as other
complex findings that NASA (National Association of Stupid AROGANTS) is still
trying to "CONFIRM" with their ADVANCED telescopes and SPACE shuttles.

[Aryslan]

I'm pretty shocked at some of the responses to this thread. I'm all for looking at things from a different angle, but no matter which angle I look at it from, I come to the conclusion that these stones were erected by Eugenicists.

[Cidersomerset]

I'm pretty shocked at some of the responses to this thread. I'm all for looking at things from a different angle, but no matter which angle I look at it from, I come to the conclusion that these stones were erected by Eugenicists.

I have been connecting dots today on several threads and most of these
manipulated events are connected , but by Who ? We all suspect several
possibilities, but its all connecting together......

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A post I put on Jackovesks thread earlier , Amzer has got an Agenda 21 thread
on the go as well.....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70016-Agenda-21-Vaccines-The-Female-Of-The-Species


Don't mis understand this post and as far as I'm concerned the Third right regime
developed into one of the most evil in history along with many others especially
communist, and imperial empires and democratic ones in North America. Africa ,
Asia and Australia. Indiginous populations have suffered terribly.

Biological warfare is very old the tossing of rotten corpeses into enemy cities and
fouling drinking water goes right back , and if you believe Virmanas and other
ancient texts we may have nuked ourselves before....

Now concentration camps were first set up by the British in the Boer war in the
modern sense.and the Nasis in the 1930's/40's were getting some of their ideology
from existing sources.

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I was looking at an article about Eugenics, which is still be played out in Agenda 21
which is interesting and plays into the part of this discussion about who was really
behind all this chaos......


This was a scary little vid that popped up while I was googling.....

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Those running (ruining) the world today, think in exactly the same way as
Bernard Shaw and all the other Eugenicists of the 19th / 20th centuries.

Vaccines, Fluoridated Water, Bisphenol A in plastics, Pesticides, Soya
(so-called "health food") and Genetically Modified foods, can cause Sterility
in humans. And they're all promoted from the very same people who believe
that the earth is overpopulated. Are they secretly Sterilizing the population?
A chemical assault upon humanity?

Listen to Bill Gates say that Vaccines will be used to lower Population:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-lqDM...

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Eugenics, Depopulation and the Elite Mindset

Sunday 21st September 2014 at 05:33 By david-icke


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Eugenics, Depopulation and the Elite Mindset

Eugenics
Social Engineering

by Zen Gardner - Sep 20, 2014


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‘Let’s suppose the elitist scum working to ruin and control our lives and planet are
in some fashion real people to some extent. I know, a stretch, but let’s try. So how
can they perpetrate such horrors on humanity? How could such madness be
justified in the minds of men, however psychopathic?

Actually, it’s easy. For self promotion, preservation and power they’ve allowed
themselves to be convinced the power is theirs and the right thing to do. But what’s
their fundamental tenet for mass murder?

Everything they think and believe is a fabricated bastardization and reversal of any
real Truth, but in their minds they’ve decided this wicked, inhuman illuminist
takeover makes sense to them. Especially with their fat cheeks being firmly
ensconced in the seats of power.’


Oh, the vestiges of their human conscience may give some of them a nudge in
some cases, but it’s been shut down almost completely for most of them. It has to
be. You can’t have empathy and wreak such death dealing havoc on nature and
humanity.

If you’ve ever known or observed a pathological liar, this cauterized mindset is their
way of life. Politicians do it without the slightest compunction. To them it’s part of
the job description for ruling the unwashed masses. How is it justified logically? The
old “necessary evil” ruse, as in the justification for 9/11 and myriad of other actions.

The even more amazing thing is that they smugly revel in this ugliness, thinking
they’re the “good guys”.

Convincing the Cattle to Die – Eugenics Justifies All

Think about it. What a slam dunk for world domination to so twist perception to
where humanity is the problem that needs to be curtailed by draconian controls
while being systematically exterminated like a pest infestation. Be it engineered
wars, poverty and food shortages; drugging, corrupted food, and water; dumbed
down information and media, or injecting toxins in our bodies, all is fair game to them.

Eugenics is the “tie that binds”, the glue that holds all the other lies conveniently
together. And it takes the sting out of outright mass murder. For them. It’s
a “cleaning” and “preparation” for their desired world to come.

Look what Agenda 21 controls are perpetrated via things like climate change and
CO2 fabrications. Sure, we’re in the throes of massive climate extremes for many
reasons, many of them geoengineered, but to blame it on cattle flatulence and
human breathing must be some kind of macabre inside joke. Bottom line is they
are planning a great “culling of the herd” and need our permission. We’ve read
about it for decades in their elitist writings, and this is how they justify it and hope
to convince us as much as possible of the same. That’s the alert.

Remember, not waking up and saying no is ultimately humanity’s imprimatur that it
agrees. That’s where empowerment comes in. We can say no and reverse all this,
just as we’ve done in many instances. But the awakened shout out needs to be
immediate and insistent.

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A Little Background

As eugenics, called the “self-direction of human evolution”, grew out of its inception
in the 1800’s, it was considered the harmonious result of all branches of science.
The US was the first to implement eugenics programs as early as 1908 and it
gained a lot of popularity and traction. What stopped it in its tracks, at least in
public opinion, was the Nazi implementation of eugenics during WW2 to the obvious
horror of all, however backed by the American program and exaggerated by Zionists.

This would later turn out to be an amazingly cunning pre-planned propaganda tool
as we’ll discuss below.

But now look how this eugenics campaign has been revived and is currently
perpetrated. With innocuous sounding names like Planned Parenthood to the UN’s
dastardly Agenda 21, the mass hive mind sees these measures as “progress” while
knowing little to nothing about the extensive anti-human nevermind anti-freedom
measures being foisted upon them.

And it’s not just genetic culling, it’s mass population reduction.

An elitist think tank called The Club of Rome set the latest stage for this last push
to demonize humanity with the contrived invention of militant, invasive
environmentalism. This appeared around the same time as the widely
sensationalized “population bomb” concept. While real ecology and conservationism
make common sense, this environmental agenda was created with the specific
intention to foist massive controls over human activities. That we’re now at the
incredulous point of having to pay a literal carbon tax is a total giveaway of their
fraudulent intentions.

Yet few catch on.

And again, like the lie of human caused global warming, we should feel guilty for
being alive, to such an extent that even our breath is supposedly killing the planet.

Insane. Yet they keep pushing their agenda regardless of real scientific data to the contrary.


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Bill Gates Vaccines

The Cauterized Mind of Dystopians

While humanity doesn’t share the bestial mindset of the elites and their occult
driven agenda, these pounding programs wear on people. Over time the continued
onslaught of these nonsensical anti-truths start to wear a groove in the mass mind.

The psycho-trauma tool of choice? Cognitive dissonance.

Resistance subsides as seemingly contrary understandings–in this case, “I’m a
sovereign human being who deserves life and freedom” vs. “I’m a parasitic
organism killing my host planet and need to be eradicated”. Screwy, but that’s
what it boils down to.

And what gets synthesized in the mind to reconcile the two? “I guess they know
what they’re doing. Gee, we are bad and something needs to be done.” It doesn’t
really make sense so the overload causes a shutdown and back to the TV and ball
game they go, acquiescing by apathy.

Once again, the intended solution being foisted on society gains traction.

And daring to oppose this new status-quo? It has now been cleverly engineered to
be tantamount to terrorism, the ultimate behavioral catch-all.

Game. Set. Match…or so they think.

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Zio-Kabbalism – An Identifiable Virus Form

While the arrogant, intellectual roots of modern eugenics seem to escape
mainstream consciousness, obvious forms of racism and genocidal extermination,
as recently exposed in the latest Gaza genocide, have been much
more evident. That the two are intrinsically connected takes one to the much
deeper understanding of what’s really going on on this planet – the elimination of
more conscious and rooted indigenous forms of humanity and the subjugation of
the remaining human race and its ultimate manipulation into a non-questioning
subservient form actually loving its enslavement.

Yes, just like the predictive programming evidenced in literature and film making for centuries.

The Zionist mindset with its Kabbalistic occult sense of supremacism is a clear
example of justified extermination of “lesser” beings. An incredible “in your face”
example that the world turns a blind eye to. Instead, they fall for the big lie created
by the engineered German holocaust that the perpetrators ofthis current
extermination of their “inferiors” as manifested in the millions of killed and
displaced Palestinians, is somehow because the killers are the potential victims.

That’s how they work. Manipulate history and pound the manipulated message
home via propaganda. That simple – as long as you have a complicit media and
engorging codependent governments. Behold the birth of the Zionist
parasite called Israel. A perfect example of the sick fruits of eugenically driven,
ravenous psychotic behavior,

When people wake up to that mechanism blood will run hot and heavy and they’ll
get their due. They always have and always will.

Evil dies from its own corrupted aberration. As in the human body, the protective
immune system of the Universe
will eventually disable and recycle these invaders.

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The Interdimensional Connection

In a Universe of boundless life and energy we know entities of all types exist, which
even so-called modern scientists affirm. Dimensions abound beyond ours and
they’re here and interacting with our world.

This reality must play heavily into our personal understanding of our
interdimensional cosmos. We’re a world under siege, and we need to know our
enemies as well as our friends. That such forces of darkness can mount such a
profoundly coordinated attack on a planet of mainly meek, loving inhabitants reeks
of opportunity for an aggressive force. I don’t know exactly what’s going on but I
hope this helps present the case for what we’re potentially up against.

Inter-dimensional war.

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I would be remiss without pointing out these otherworldly influences on our three
dimensional experience. There is much more than meets the physical eye as we
well know. People are driven by many influences, and spiritual ones
are the most profound. Religions dutifully categorize such concepts as good and
bad influences, while metaphysics dissects these various aspects with intrigue.
Psychic, transcendental and after death phenomena also abound.

So please don’t tell me there’s nothing more than this observable world.

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The Antidote – Disengage and Live in Truth and Love

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Never give in mentally or spiritually to this onslaught. While we need to stay active
in exposing their perfidy, we cannot be part of their ensnaring mindset.

That’s why turning off all forms of mainstream media is so important. That’s why
immersion in positive influences, nature, and loving people to counter these types
of realities is so important.

Anyone in their right mind knows this kind of plan cannot succeed in the long run.
We happen to be at a time in history where these negative, barbaric influences are
peaking with the acceleration of hijacked technologies.

This too shall pass. But we should be vigilant and prepare as best we can, without
fear. It’s a time to grow in consciousness and communication with each other so we
can share our combined knowledge, insights and loving support.

Therein is life, one day at a time. As it always is.

Much love, Zen


Read more: Eugenics, Depopulation and the Elite Mindset


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[Robin]

I'm pretty shocked at some of the responses to this thread. I'm all for looking at things from a different angle, but no matter which angle I look at it from, I come to the conclusion that these stones were erected by Eugenicists.

I'm equally as shocked to your dismissal of these stones as having a good message, and being erected by somebody who isn't a eugenicist.

I understand why you feel this way, but I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss this possibility when there isn't any huge evidence concerning the stones' maker.

[shadowstalker]

Let's face it. We have the Vatican spewing that birth control is going against god. And then the guide stones stating otherwise, and here's this old fart holding the holy bible, stating "I know who i did it but I'm not telling, nanny nanny booboo. Its a dog and pony show.

Does this thing sit on a ley line? What purpose does this thing serve, that nobody would think of in a million years.

Me thinks this thing is hiding something totally u related.
Hidden in plain sight. But what?

This forum has many remote Viewers, maybe they should RV what is in the vault that is below it. :nod:

The tablet also says a time capsule is placed six feet below it, though the dates of placement and when it should be opened are left blank.

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And what does the writing styles or histories of these old nations have in common
Egyptian Hieroglyphics
Babylonian Cuneiform
Classical Greek
Sanskrit

[Aryslan]

too quick to dismiss

What makes you think I'm quick to dismiss it? I've known of the stones for almost a decade, and looked closely at each one of their "commandments". I have come to the conclusion that they were set in place by people with an agenda.

[IMSAGTP]

Hmmm...soooo..are there any others reading this within shouting distance of Elberton?

J

[MorningFox]

I agree with Delight, I think everything the stone states is worth listening to. I certainly don't advocate any kind of population reduction but that's not to say that having 500m wouldn't be far more beneficial for us, the planet and everything on it. Everything else mentioned has undeniable merits.

[Sidney]

It. Would seem, the date thing is put there to put fear to the forefront.
Let's just say that there is an apocalypse coming, but we don't know when, and we want the survivors or newcomers to use these stones as a guide. And to know what year shtf .

Let's just say, that someone wants to fool everyone into believing the end is near, they would in fact do something like this.

Everything is so convoluted anymore its not even funny.

I would think the guy who claims to know who did this is the one who should be afraid at this point. One of him and 8 billion of us. lol

[Delight]

Once we become united and remove our shackles and increase education and awareness to every individual, we can reach 500,000,000 in the distant future naturally. It's simple: everybody collectively understands our dire situation and feels the emotions of the earth, and decides to make decisions of their own free will, out of a service-to-others desire to seriously help humanity and the planet, and does what it takes to be proper stewards of this planet (which may include choosing out of free will to have one child).

I like your post very much.
IMO we see the distorted perceptions of the collective "intellect" stirred up again in this thread.

Dear Collective Mind:
People are seeming to be automatic in assuming that this potential presented is driven from a negative catastrophic post Armageddon necessity.

My expectation is much greater for what we may be, do and have as humans. I happen to have independently appreciated a world in my imagination which is not needing to REPOPULATE from TWO. It is a world where we are wise enough to be less controling and appreciate learning and simply not interfering so much in the natural world.

It is not the 500,000,000 that is at issue IMO but conscious child bearing and the separation of sex from impregnation, the appreciation of all life, moving up several world wide notches on the material scale. One of the aspects of children is that it takes a great deal of commitment to assist a human person to adulthood with style, grace and the necessary patience and attention. I will assume adulthood as 25 years is adequate.

If one imagines that ONLY those who ONLY desire to focus on total commitment to parenting actually have children and the rest enjoy supporting the parents and the children but are creating in other ways, there is no longer half the angst. We collectively realize a knowing that there is no reason to parent by default (because the child was birthed) and halfway. The notion of this "populating" takes a different coloring.

My parents were NOT 100% committed to parenting as they were in survival trauma mode recovering their own lost childhood wounds OR NOT). We "population expanders" were not appreciated as the parents were unable to appreciate themselves. We were all just "what happens" and fodder to feed the system IMO.

The opportunity to focus beyond "life and death struggle for competitive edge" is a mind set that DOES take a collective cooperation. Being afforded the opportunity to be imperfect and screw up (being human) but beyond the survival state is an ideal who's time is way past due.

Unfortunately so many in the collective have been reverberating in history that it seems normal. I have compassion for the misconception, BUT if you agree with the following statement, why not stop self supporting one's own victim status and refuse to see humanity as slave species of GOD?


Really, once humans understand the nature of our reality and recognize that they are sovereign beings who have been manipulated for a long time, and that we are powerful spirits, it may simply come natural in the future for people to maintain a stable population number.

If you don't like what the Guide Stones say, get busy and put your alt platform together and cooperate on that one.

I will be dead in 50 years if I make it to 110 so it hardly matters to me as I am not planning to return to a primitive collective.

[Milneman]

Make more gay babies.

Duh!

Seriously though, I can think of lots of other ideas that are far more frightening that are in books.

Twilight, for example.

YECH.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Personally due to the insensitive nature of the "monument to death", I believe that the US government has a responsibility to remove the objects.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Jesus

"The stone who was rejected by the Builders (of the evil system!) shall become the Chief Cornerstone" Psalms

"These are the men who give wicked counsel in this city" Ezekiel

It seems that our "leaders into perdition" have forgotten what balance means.


"I am as a stone who fell from Heaven" Miguel Serrano's praises of LUCIFER...


it's satanism plain and simple, as awful as anything in king henry's day




p.s. the Builders put something nasty where I live too, it's outside Walla Walla at Whitman Mission, a big obelisk celebrating that the Indians and missionaries were conned into killing each other whereas capitalism prospered.

get ready for the end times, evil ones..!!

The Builders are also master poisoners and in fact the Whitman massacre was precipitate by a poisoning, someone put arsenic or something in the food and meds that they were handing out to the natives.


So you can see this has been going on for a long time.
Don't forget that Seattle and London were intentionally burned by the same people and it was always blamed on the poor, the foreigner, and the honest working man... FYI :rain:

big enough quake will send them back to the paleolithic era where their mentality truly belongs

[Magnus]

I just do not see what is so wrong with the precepts? This has nothing to do with anything terribly bad IMo and if this is the year to reason through what these guidelines intend, why not? The only one that speaks to a number is the population. I know that given the opportunity, people who know their children will live when birthed and raised, who are not compelled by religion to populate in large numbers, who do not depend on subsistence agriculture and who are able to choose education and interesting work have many fewer children OR NONE (like me)

IMO the reactions of alarm seem fearful.

“LET THESE BE GUIDESTONES TO AN AGE OF REASON”

1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

[...]

What do these highlighted words mean to you?

Once you've answered the above question, then attempt to answer this one:

What does it imply to a current 7 billions population?

Is it ok if i jump in on this one?

The average lifespan for a now living human being is well below 100 years.
If we love to live life and does it well until we die by old age, why is the question of "maintaining" even a problem to people who most likely won't be alive 150 years from now or any time later? Everyone who desire to produce their own offspring can freely do this at any time given, now or in the future without incurring any existential trouble at all, but simple mathematics apply to this reasoning, if you have only one apple you can not eat two apples or if you go for a picnic with three of your friends and each of you are expecting to eat one apple each, one apple won't be enough to provide you with one untouched apple each, how small part of an apple will be enough not to suffer, when does your stomach begin to hurt, are you prepared to whack your friend to get that apple, will you be able to eat any apple at all if you cut down the appletree for firewood!? Not saying there are not malevolent intent behind the guidestones, there may well be, it's just that i get an annoying itch in my head when i detect way too low mathematical skills in some people here (no one specific just an overall sense), for a forum of this high standard.

[Hervé]

It seems most are too busy to read and/or digest this part:


As for that 5[00] million figure; what's the math behind it?

Simple:


500 families
each family allowed 1 million relatives as "chosen ones"

That's that!



[...]

The US Administration has been making many new germs and using the vaccines only for their own use. The HIV virus is a BioWarfare germ which was developed at Fort Detrick.

‘Over the past two decades there have been only a handful of other physicians and health professionals who have had the courage to alert the public to evidence that AIDS is man-made (namely Robert Strecker MD, William Campbell Douglass MD, Eva Snead MD, and Leonard G Horowitz DDS)’ and Dr. Alan Cantwell author of Queer Blood. http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-evidence-hiv-was-man-made-bio.html (http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-evidence-hiv-was-man-made-bio.html)

It was tested under the supervision of CIA officer Jim Jones on US blacks, hispanics, and Native Americans at Jonestown British Guiana. I met Jim Jones in the halls of the CIA after that. He did not die in that CIA mass murder atrocity that killed over 900 people. Most were not so well mind controlled as to ‘voluntarily commit suicide on cue’. Please read the book “Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment? by Robert Meier for more information. HIV did not accidently escape from Fort Detrick; it was intentionally used to target populations, mainly blacks and Third World people. For example, HIV infected units of blood were sent to sickle cell clinics in Africa, put in vaccines used in Africa, India, Thailand, etc. But, infected blood was also wittingly sent by the Shadow govt. to Canada with the intention of infecting that population as well. The Robber Barons only consider the top 500 wealthiest families in the world to be “their own”. In their agenda, they want to allow each of those families to have a million relatives on the face of the earth and wipe out all the other people. That can be done by creating new germs and taking safe vaccines to them, while withholding those vaccines from everyone else. Thus, they have developed a vaccine against HIV which they have taken but hidden from the rest of the world....

[...] That is how well the sculptor accomplished David Rockefeller’s wish to be immortalized as a Christ like figure while planning genocide to kill off 5.5 billion people!

[...]

... Ebola... Dengue fever... Marburg... autism... HPV... Monsanto and its Glyphosate/Roundup... Fracking... chemtrails... nanobots...

... si, si, it's all for your own good!

[Magnus]

The way this is 'added on', if nothing happens in 2014, they can switch it out for a '2015' cube ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K_cuMDyHFc

These surveillance cameras seems to be a little cheapish if they're not merely a scare tactic. The supposedly big guys behind the monument would probably have access to the most superior spy satellites to guard this spot.

[syrwong]

I think the Guidestone words are serious and come from the PTB of a very high level. We know very well they plan a long time ahead. They may have had this doctrine a century ago, when they decided on the 500 million “optimal” figure. I think they did not foresee the world population would explode to 7000 million, but the figure remains unchanged anyway.

As a previous post shows, the adding of the slab was a well- planned action. They had intended to put the update year on before 2007 (the marking was there in 2007). Now they updated this in around mid-year this year, which means they had confidence some major starting event would follow this year. With the strange MH events and ISIS and others, I think everything is ready. This “2014” should be a prediction of some very important event to happen in 2014. There is only 3 months left.

We have seen too many false prophecies/predictions to believe any fixed time for a great event. But If this comes from the top elites and the message is so obscure and is not widely known, I see no point in them lying. Lying and fear mongering would not be done this way.

[araucaria]

Inelia Benz has her finger on the collective pulse IMO. I am adding this here as it seems to me that dissonance is generated by what could be neutral reasonable content in this particular case of the Guidestones. If youcould place a monumnet for generations to come, what would you say? Have each of us crafted our position statement?

How about ‘Nothing is carved in stone’ :)

Will we never learn? We are still fighting over the stone tablets of Moses and the meaning of the Great Pyramid, which, having no inscription, is all the more morbidly fascinating for being its own inscription. Life is carved in life. A population of any size is nobody’s business; it is not an ideal target to be met, but the natural outcome of natural processes between individual entities. And we know that a still larger population than today’s could live happily on this planet – but not unhappily.

Talking about numbers in this way is to forget that there is a qualitative as well as a quantitative aspect to number. ‘One becomes two, two becomes three’. One is unity, two is duality or bipolarity. This is where eugenicism or population control would have us stop. It represents a kind of coitus interruptus with respect to Jung’s coniunctio, described as follows by Remo Roth, in a ‘psychophysical reality’ that also ties in with the physical world:


Bipolarity is a necessary qualitative aspect of number two; Number two must however also contain the qualitative aspect of unity, oneness. Thus the two are secretly one (…) the coniunctio archetype (…) The masculine and the feminine godhead of Hermetic alchemy have sexual intercourse, i.e. become one, and like this create the third, the child. Remo Roth, “Return of the World Soul”, II, p.9.

Given that the third is the ‘energy term’ (just as two electric poles have a current flowing between them, and that this third is under attack, understandably we can see any block to this process as being an energy drain, a form of parasitism or vampirism, which is what we are indeed seeing on many levels. But this third also presents bipolarity, but falls short of a real union of opposites.


the simultaneous coexistence of the two aspects of bipolarity is not possible in the third. Thus, as an inevitable consequence an alternating time process starts: out of one aspect the other is created and vice versa. A mostly unconscious enantiodromia takes place, which leads to the opposite principle: the ‘masculine’ energetic unity, (the triangle pointing upwards, the Holy Ghost), transforms into the ‘feminine’ energetic unity, (the triangle pointing downwards). This way the split in the third, the opposition of two hostile principles becomes visible. Only one of these principles can be true at a given moment. Thus, the third cannot be the real union of opposites either, a union the coniunctio is aiming at. Already here we can thus anticipate that such a unity and unification can only be reached in the fourth (…) And out of the third comes the One as the fourth (…)
The double triad [symbolized by the Seal of Solomon] (describes) the unity aspect of the fourth (…) Like this the two become one. Remo Roth, “Return of the World Soul”, II, p.10.

Given the above analysis of the life process, it is ultimately irrelevant whether the Georgia Guidestones are well-meant or not. Either way, whether out of fear or out of desire to dominate (which is probably anyway simply an expression of fear), they recoil from this process which in my view and my experience we ought to be embracing.

Please, no more stone monuments. They are designed to outlive whatever usefulness they may ever have had. And they function as psychic energy collectors.

[Atlas]

This “2014” should be a prediction of some very important event to happen in 2014. There is only 3 months left.

Nothing will happen. As you just said, the year is nearly over.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

That added cube, I bet a formerly very very bored teenager with a stepladder, an angle grinder and a chisel is laughing himself to death at this very moment when he is reading all these discussions on the internet.

[Rich]

IMO the reactions of alarm seem fearful.

“LET THESE BE GUIDESTONES TO AN AGE OF REASON”

1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

2. GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY – IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY

3. UNITE HUMANITY WITH A LIVING NEW LANGUAGE

4. RULE PASSION – FAITH – TRADITION – AND ALL THINGS WITH TEMPERED REASON

5. PROTECT PEOPLE AND NATIONS WITH FAIR LAWS AND JUST COURTS

6. LET ALL NATIONS RULE INTERNALLY RESOLVING EXTERNAL DISPUTES IN A WORLD COURT

7. AVOID PETTY LAWS AND USELESS OFFICIALS

8. BALANCE PERSONAL RIGHTS WITH SOCIAL DUTIES

9. PRIZE TRUTH – BEAUTY – LOVE- SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE INFINITE

10. BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH – LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE – LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/58409/images/block.jpg

Sounds positive to me, whatever the ideal number of population is, maintain does not mean kill here because #5 says protect the people with fair laws.

[Hervé]

As a matter of corroboration of this point:


As for that 5[00] million figure; what's the math behind it?

Simple:


500 families
each family allowed 1 million relatives as "chosen ones"

That's that!


The followings from Sue Arrigo's case 26 "Your sickness and genocide" (http://pauljackson.us/sue_arrigo/) exposes what's occurring around the world, from Fukushima to the various type of diabetes tied to hypothyroidism, directly from the horse's mouth:

[...]... We want the capacity to wipe out all of the “lesser beings” on the planet.’

I played dumb and asked him how he defined that.

He said, “You know, all those who are not members of the CFR already”

“And their families?” I offered.

“Well, not all of them,” he said. “You know The List.”

I handed him a copy of it to make sure that we were talking about the same list. He nodded yes, and repeated “What do we have to do to get down to just those people?”

[...]


Myron Fagan Sounded Alarm in 1967
September 21, 2014

Why America is Going Down the Drain (http://henrymakow.com/2014/09/Myron-Fagan-Sounded-Alarm-in-1967.html)

Myron Fagan (1887-1972) was a distinguished and successful Broadway producer (http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/myronfaganbio.shtml), writer and director. A Jew, he tried to alert his fellow Americans to their coming by the Illuminati. Here are 12 trenchant points from a 1967 address, "The Illuminati & the CFR," that resonate today more than ever.


KrUXPn7HCjM


1) "The masterminds behind this great conspiracy have absolute control of all of our mass communications media, especially television, the radio, the press, and Hollywood."

2) "Our so-called leaders in Washington, who we elected to safeguard our nation and our constitution, are the betrayers and that behind them are a comparatively small group of men whose sole objective is to enslave the whole world of humanity in their satanic plot of one-world government.


http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/fagan4.jpg
Myron Fagan


3) "The CFR [Council on Foreign Relations] is actually the Illuminati in the United States and its hierarchy. The masterminds in control of the original Illuminati conspirators, but to conceal that fact, most of them changed their original family names to American sounding names. For example, the true name of the Dillons, Clarence and Douglas Dillon (one Secretary of the U.S. Treasury Department), is Laposky.

[...]Transcript for the above video at: http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/MyronFagan.htm
mp3 file (http://www.awakeandarise.org/radio/Myron_Fagan.mp3) (right click ---> "Save as")
Fagan PDF (http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Fagan.pdf) (right click "save target as")
Fagan RTF (http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Fagan.rtf) (right click "save target as")

[AuCo]

If I may offer a [dumb] idea now that you are thinking positively. Starting this year 2014, up to 500,000,000 children yet to be born to this world will inherit it. All already born may live to an old ripe age and then leave. The inheritance will keep their own reproduction in so and so.




IMO the reactions of alarm seem fearful.

“LET THESE BE GUIDESTONES TO AN AGE OF REASON”

1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

2. GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY – IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY

3. UNITE HUMANITY WITH A LIVING NEW LANGUAGE

4. RULE PASSION – FAITH – TRADITION – AND ALL THINGS WITH TEMPERED REASON

5. PROTECT PEOPLE AND NATIONS WITH FAIR LAWS AND JUST COURTS

6. LET ALL NATIONS RULE INTERNALLY RESOLVING EXTERNAL DISPUTES IN A WORLD COURT

7. AVOID PETTY LAWS AND USELESS OFFICIALS

8. BALANCE PERSONAL RIGHTS WITH SOCIAL DUTIES

9. PRIZE TRUTH – BEAUTY – LOVE- SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE INFINITE

10. BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH – LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE – LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/58409/images/block.jpg

Sounds positive to me, whatever the ideal number of population is, maintain does not mean kill here because #5 says protect the people with fair laws.

[Sidney]

I was thinking about the cube. Why wouldnt they just engrave it. Cutting g that cube out looks kind of trashy for a monument that I am sure was not cheap. Quite tasteless IMO. I don't know of what importance that has on the subject. And why now. Plus, if sh did hit the fan, the current cube could be lost, separated, or stolen and would serve no purpose. Odd.

[Delight]

Truthfully I do not know the intentions of the makers of such a monument were benign?

The precepts are those that make me smile when I contemplate them. Why is that? Am I a victim of mind control that these principles appear worthy of investigating?? If that is true, I believe I will eventually realize the truth. I accept these ideas make me happy to imagine now. I in-vision a world with these ideas at this time.

People use the best "reasoning through" possible for us about what we accept is true and create a ground to stand on. In general I think the collective mind holds a distortion to base reality on fear and lack that causes us to act against humanity as a whole.

This is IMO defensive strategy we have been taught to protect more than expand.

Many are upset by the "stones" message based on thinking there is a plot to "kill us off". Is this anything new? But we have been doing the killing and in the last many many years, a VERY good job of it already. Human beings have agreed to do this action IMO.

The "playing field" is the mind preceding actions and the concentration of a collective cooperation to create a common experience occurs for us. IMO we are such powerful and multi-dimensional beings that we create the conditions out of what is believed. Once we take management of ourselves from knowing MORE, we change conditions.

People agree to war based on pure lies. But also people agree based on part truth. Truth is mushed up deliberately at a percentage in garbage otherwise we'd spit out the mix. Those who would dis-inform usually start off telling the truth then we relax. Later all the lies are revealed just when we are comfortably accepting. NOTICE this and you will be amazed at its regular appearance.

In the Guide Stones we see words that direct us to a feeling response. Yet the response is all directed to "assumptions" concerning the intention. What about OUR intention? IMO this gap is how I think we're co-opted. If we have our own intention, that supercedes input IMO.

It goes deeper because there are assumptions made about "who is the enemy" which will also be projected on others picked for us. The confusion becomes "whom should we listen to for the truth? The critics finger "someone" often repeating others' claims. The "group" may be real or manufactured. The principles are never made most important. Who is it serving to divert from "principles" onto persons?

How do we change the way we reason?

This subject of what to intend for the future does have my interest. One example from the stone: "RULE PASSION – FAITH – TRADITION – AND ALL THINGS WITH TEMPERED REASON"

Lately I am following the vaccine controversy. There is a HUGE underlying assumption on this whole subject. Are germs that attack people indiscriminately REAL? This IMO is akind of question at the level of the stone's guide on TEMPERED.

People are afraid of contagion, believing in germs. This has been seen over and over that fear of this spread of disease is a factor in the way we treat whole groups. When "Aids" was a concern, many people were supportive of placing those HIV+ in special isolation. This did not happen but individuals were ostracized. All kinds of negativity was generated. This happens over and over. It may be true that the fear of contagion also set up the "jewish people" to be feared for example?? That assault on that group is historic and research-able.

Contagion can be associated with groups of people and then others will think that it is "just" to "concentrate" the source of contagion as a "public health measure". Then a self fulfilling prophecy of disease in conditions of low hygiene , low nutrition and most of all low morale seems to justify the segregation. IF there are survivors of injustice, they will seek to retaliate (often unconscious). I am sure something LIKE this whole scenario is understandable. Reason takes this in account but does not just accept the misguided.

It is the belief in contagion itself that sets people up. If there is a fallacy at the original assumption, everything unravels from the assumption. So IMO, we cannot "take tradition" even scientific and use it without question IMO in a world that is reasoned.

"Faith" is sometimes used to stop us questioning if it is "Faith" in others to direct us. We who are without experience can be misguided easily. Perhaps that is what this BIG intention is all about: Experience of what is a workable FOR the collective to create a common reality we prefer?

The words on any text or monument are surely just words directing us to converse. However passionate action based on tradition and faith has been a devolutionary tactic rousing people to do the bidding of "someone". WHO is that "string puller"?

Well I do not know? There are threads about who and one today including James Bartley so I did look him up and found something concerning reptilians this AM. He is convinced about what he discusses. He is passionate in what I read.

In this there is finger pointing and perhaps ways to avoid having one's string pulled. He has his agenda. The stone makers have their agenda or they would not have erected the monument. The passion of other's opinions is not how I want to decide what i value

Some here may think the stone makers are influenced by the same agents James Bartley exposes? I have no way of validating James Bartley's experience. I appreciate that people have the experience of abduction. What he says is spoken with conviction. As reporting, I will give him credit that he states his truth as he knows it? Should I even accept the principles he suggests? I am just including this as an example of someone who is convinced he knows.

IMO, the major major break out is when we are able to act from our own experience apart from suggestions. IMO, that helps us develop reasoning. If I am mistaken, and already influenced, it still is important IMO for my own sovereiegn development to follow my oWN principles as reasoned rather than just follow someone who says he knows what I experience. So FYI here is the James Bartley's Grand Strategy of the Reptilians (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles50a.htm).

Actually I do not think WHO is doing the manipulation is as important as considering HOW we base our behavior and THAT is why I am again posting here.

People (well intentioned and not, correct and mistaken) write books (somewhat lasting) and make monuments (long lasting for sure) so others will repeat the information.

I am inclined to agree with Auracaria in a way that we need no more monuments? I guess for me that is agreeable as that could include all PERMANENT intellectually described convictions? Signing off from my soap box with love for supporting true wisdom where I may find it stated. Maggie

[Zaya]

I was thinking about the cube. Why wouldnt they just engrave it. Cutting g that cube out looks kind of trashy for a monument that I am sure was not cheap. Quite tasteless IMO. I don't know of what importance that has on the subject. And why now. Plus, if sh did hit the fan, the current e could be lost, separated, or stolen and would serve no purpose. Odd.

I had the same thought, Sidney... It looks cheap, and like it doesn't belong. Very strange and out of place. Could it not as easily have been someone random just adding this in to freak people out (as 778 Neighbor of Some Guy pointed out) ?

[Sidney]

I was thinking about the cube. Why wouldnt they just engrave it. Cutting g that cube out looks kind of trashy for a monument that I am sure was not cheap. Quite tasteless IMO. I don't know of what importance that has on the subject. And why now. Plus, if sh did hit the fan, the current e could be lost, separated, or stolen and would serve no purpose. Odd.

I had the same thought, Sidney... It looks cheap, and like it doesn't belong. Very strange and out of place. Could it not as easily have been someone random just adding this in to freak people out (as 778 Neighbor of Some Guy pointed out) ?

Maybe it was a sort of vandalism. Like, whoever put the monument up had nothing to do with the cube. Just thinking out loud.

Also for the record, I do think the whole thing would be a nice reality if it came to fruition, without genocide. But the reality is, genocide and eugenics are both a current reality. Populations are sick, nature is sick, earth herself is bombarded chemically, from many directions.
Materialism, and the imbalance of wealth and everything else has destroyed what was once, and what could be as utopia, regardless of the population. Tech exists to Terra form deserts, miles and miles of uninhabited land, instead tech is used to further destroy land and upgrade cell phones. Etc.

[Sierra]

2. GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY – IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY

Not in my womb ya don't.

I won't partner with anyone except who I want.

Duh.

[Sidney]

Truthfully I do not know the intentions of the makers of such a monument were benign?

The precepts are those that make me smile when I contemplate them. Why is that? Am I a victim of mind control that these principles appear worthy of investigating?? If that is true, I believe I will eventually realize the truth. I accept these ideas make me happy to imagine now. I in-vision a world with these ideas at this time.

People use the best "reasoning through" possible for us about what we accept is true and create a ground to stand on. In general I think the collective mind holds a distortion to base reality on fear and lack that causes us to act against humanity as a whole.

This is IMO defensive strategy we have been taught to protect more than expand.

Many are upset by the "stones" message based on thinking there is a plot to "kill us off". Is this anything new? But we have been doing the killing and in the last many many years, a VERY good job of it already. Human beings have agreed to do this action IMO.

The "playing field" is the mind preceding actions and the concentration of a collective cooperation to create a common experience occurs for us. IMO we are such powerful and multi-dimensional beings that we create the conditions out of what is believed. Once we take management of ourselves from knowing MORE, we change conditions.

People agree to war based on pure lies. But also people agree based on part truth. Truth is mushed up deliberately at a percentage in garbage otherwise we'd spit out the mix. Those who would dis-inform usually start off telling the truth then we relax. Later all the lies are revealed just when we are comfortably accepting. NOTICE this and you will be amazed at its regular appearance.

In the Guide Stones we see words that direct us to a feeling response. Yet the response is all directed to "assumptions" concerning the intention. What about OUR intention? IMO this gap is how I think we're co-opted. If we have our own intention, that supercedes input IMO.

It goes deeper because there are assumptions made about "who is the enemy" which will also be projected on others picked for us. The confusion becomes "whom should we listen to for the truth? The critics finger "someone" often repeating others' claims. The "group" may be real or manufactured. The principles are never made most important. Who is it serving to divert from "principles" onto persons?

How do we change the way we reason?

This subject of what to intend for the future does have my interest. One example from the stone: "RULE PASSION – FAITH – TRADITION – AND ALL THINGS WITH TEMPERED REASON"

Lately I am following the vaccine controversy. There is a HUGE underlying assumption on this whole subject. Are germs that attack people indiscriminately REAL? This IMO is akind of question at the level of the stone's guide on TEMPERED.

People are afraid of contagion, believing in germs. This has been seen over and over that fear of this spread of disease is a factor in the way we treat whole groups. When "Aids" was a concern, many people were supportive of placing those HIV+ in special isolation. This did not happen but individuals were ostracized. All kinds of negativity was generated. This happens over and over. It may be true that the fear of contagion also set up the "jewish people" to be feared for example?? That assault on that group is historic and research-able.

Contagion can be associated with groups of people and then others will think that it is "just" to "concentrate" the source of contagion as a "public health measure". Then a self fulfilling prophecy of disease in conditions of low hygiene , low nutrition and most of all low morale seems to justify the segregation. IF there are survivors of injustice, they will seek to retaliate (often unconscious). I am sure something LIKE this whole scenario is understandable. Reason takes this in account but does not just accept the misguided.

It is the belief in contagion itself that sets people up. If there is a fallacy at the original assumption, everything unravels from the assumption. So IMO, we cannot "take tradition" even scientific and use it without question IMO in a world that is reasoned.

"Faith" is sometimes used to stop us questioning if it is "Faith" in others to direct us. We who are without experience can be misguided easily. Perhaps that is what this BIG intention is all about: Experience of what is a workable FOR the collective to create a common reality we prefer?

The words on any text or monument are surely just words directing us to converse. However passionate action based on tradition and faith has been a devolutionary tactic rousing people to do the bidding of "someone". WHO is that "string puller"?

Well I do not know? There are threads about who and one today including James Bartley so I did look him up and found something concerning reptilians this AM. He is convinced about what he discusses. He is passionate in what I read.

In this there is finger pointing and perhaps ways to avoid having one's string pulled. He has his agenda. The stone makers have their agenda or they would not have erected the monument. The passion of other's opinions is not how I want to decide what i value

Some here may think the stone makers are influenced by the same agents James Bartley exposes? I have no way of validating James Bartley's experience. I appreciate that people have the experience of abduction. What he says is spoken with conviction. As reporting, I will give him credit that he states his truth as he knows it? Should I even accept the principles he suggests? I am just including this as an example of someone who is convinced he knows.

IMO, the major major break out is when we are able to act from our own experience apart from suggestions. IMO, that helps us develop reasoning. If I am mistaken, and already influenced, it still is important IMO for my own sovereiegn development to follow my oWN principles as reasoned rather than just follow someone who says he knows what I experience. So FYI here is the James Bartley's Grand Strategy of the Reptilians (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles50a.htm).

Actually I do not think WHO is doing the manipulation is as important as considering HOW we base our behavior and THAT is why I am again posting here.

People (well intentioned and not, correct and mistaken) write books (somewhat lasting) and make monuments (long lasting for sure) so others will repeat the information.

I am inclined to agree with Auracaria in a way that we need no more monuments? I guess for me that is agreeable as that could include all PERMANENT intellectually described convictions? Signing off from my soap box with love for supporting true wisdom where I may find it stated. Maggie

Excellent post. I just want to add that I have up most respect for James Bartley. He has spent decades researching, and I admire his passion for truth. . so bumping this again.

[SilentFeathers]

I was thinking about the cube. Why wouldnt they just engrave it. Cutting g that cube out looks kind of trashy for a monument that I am sure was not cheap. Quite tasteless IMO. I don't know of what importance that has on the subject. And why now. Plus, if sh did hit the fan, the current e could be lost, separated, or stolen and would serve no purpose. Odd.

I had the same thought, Sidney... It looks cheap, and like it doesn't belong. Very strange and out of place. Could it not as easily have been someone random just adding this in to freak people out (as 778 Neighbor of Some Guy pointed out) ?

Maybe it was a sort of vandalism. Like, whoever put the monument up had nothing to do with the cube. Just thinking out loud.

Also for the record, I do think the whole thing would be a nice reality if it came to fruition, without genocide. But the reality is, genocide and eugenics are both a current reality. Populations are sick, nature is sick, earth herself is bombarded chemically, from many directions.
Materialism, and the imbalance of wealth and everything else has destroyed what was once, and what could be as utopia, regardless of the population. Tech exists to Terra form deserts, miles and miles of uninhabited land, instead tech is used to further destroy land and upgrade cell phones. Etc.

It looks out of place and cheap to me too, it even looks like a cement block and not granite.

I'm only a couple hours away from this structure and went there about 6 months ago and ironically I found the notch at the top of the block in question the most strange and peculiar thing about the whole construction. I took several photos of it and looked at it from every possible angle I could think of. I find it rather bizarre that 6 months later after I was there and almost completely focused on this notch this happens. Seems I wasn't the only one fixated on this notch :)

[Hughe]

The local or federal government agency that manages ownership of any property. Nothing can in modern world simply exist mysteriously.

[Hervé]

Why is it that too many individuals happily skip that these guidelines are meant to apply to a humanity that's below 500 millions?

... ever occurred to these individuals that, currently, humanity is composed of over 7 Billions and GROWING?!

How do these individuals figure out how a humanity can go from over 7 Billions to under 500 millions?

How did the individual(s) who ordered these megaliths got to know something we don't?

Either that individual knows of a recurring, cyclical type of catastrophe or is in the know on how to make one happen.

Couple that with underground bunkers, DUMBs, underground seed banks and... the writings are on the walls... so to speak.


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As for the notch, from the pictures provided by buares, it seems that, that notch was pre-cut and readied for a replacement.

That new block may only be the start of a count down... of which we don't know what kind of clock is being used.

[Atlas]

The mastermind is Robert Christian (nickname) and he wrote a book: Common Sense Renewed (http://www.amazon.com/COMMON-SENSE-RENEWED-Robert-Christian/dp/B0017GRBNK)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/Common-Sense-Renewed-13.jpg

The book is available here (https://www.metabunk.org/files/Common%20Sense%20Renewed.pdf) or here (https://mega.co.nz/#!CQg0CQ7a!UrAopa1nb3uFDsTfYApiDR5-crhRI_MNAnpQVIEL8jU).

[SilentFeathers]

Why is it that too many individuals happily skip that these guidelines are meant to apply to a humanity that's below 500 millions?

... ever occurred to these individuals that, currently, humanity is composed of over 7 Billions and GROWING?!

How do these individuals figure out how a humanity can go from over 7 Billions to under 500 millions?

How did the individual(s) who ordered these megaliths got to know something we don't?

Either that individual knows of a recurring, cyclical type of catastrophe or is in the know on how to make one happen.

Couple that with underground bunkers, DUMBs, underground seed banks and... the writings are on the walls... so to speak.


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As for the notch, from the pictures provided by buares, it seems that, that notch was pre-cut and readied for a replacement.

That new block may only be the start of a count down... of which we don't know what kind of clock is being used.

It's my understanding that the notch was cut in 2009 and somewhat blamed on vandals...claiming they were trying to get to the stainless steel pins that hold the capstone or top slab in place....hmmmm? But, anyways, nice square cut for a mischievous vandal to hammer out of granite with a chisel huh?

Regardless, anyone could of made and placed that cube in there if they knew the measurement and had an extension ladder, it even looks like cement rather than granite, but, I don't know what it's made of.

Anyone with more money than brains back in 1979-80 could of had this built too, for whatever motive or psychotic reasoning they had at the time.

If it wasn't (the cube) placed there by a prankster and or bobblehead, I personally believe it may possibly be a marker to state the year of the death of RC Christian and probably placed there as a memorial marker to him (whatever his real name is). But of course, I am just making a guess.....

On another note; the monument does exactly was it was intended to do.....to draw attention and to create controversial arguments....for all we know, the true creator of it could actually be the owner of the granite place and he himself made up the whole story of RC Christian.....and the cube was placed there by a prankster.

[dreamer]

Forgive me if there's already been a thread about this, I don't visit the site as much as I would like. It has come to my attention that there's been an additional stone added to the Georgia Guidestones in the upper corner of one of the pillars. It reads 2014. Personally, this is kind of creepy. There are videos and pictures to support this, sorry I have a problem uploading links with my phone.

[Tyy1907]

Yeah there was a thread on this. Yeah they changed it to 2014 (not even sure what the date was before?). I'm still not buying into their game. They use fear which is based on absolutely NOTHING. They got nothing. Just like John Kerry tried the fear tactic on that congressman who was calling him out. "This is very serious." Like f@$&. Get the eff out of government, your time is up.

[TargeT]

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/guidestones-2014.jpg
http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dirt-grit/stone-age-what-do-georgia-guidestones-know-we-dont-know-about-2014

strange

[Atlas]

We've been discussing this for the past 3 days:

projectavalon.net/The Georgia Guidestones have been updated w/ 2014 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75168-The-Georgia-Guidestones-have-been-updated-w-2014)

[Jake]

Sorry, all... I merged a new thread discussing this topic with this one. Sorry for any confusion.

:focus::focus::focus:
Jake.

[jackovesk]

good point Illie..
anyone in the vicinity to bulldoz it?

How about this...???

http://www.newsfiber.com/thumb/20140804-CF420707BFC660A0-0-0-C7BCA866-BA75202F1770062C.jpeg to take out these http://i2.dainikbhaskar.com/thumbnail/200x173/web2images/www.bhaskar.com/2014/06/22/0749_cctv-camera.jpg

Then some of this http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/49292_100000660728176_8540_n.jpg to take out these http://www.aratta-ukraine.com/textua/09022601.jpg

:eyebrows:

[Sith73]

My thoughts exactly jackovesk............Nicely done

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I would love to see a video of these just blowing up.....

Yep I'm not playing their game and watch as their house of cards comes down and watch the cockroaches run..........................

[Atlas]

We don't necessarily need to blow them up, they are outdated, obsolete, a relic of the past, they now pertain to mainstream archaeology, we can put them in a museum and add a sign saying something like: "20th century ideology, long-forgotten". :rolleyes:

[Pam]

I know this is really going to make me unpopular here. But, based on the actual message, without reading anything else into it I do not find this offensive. I do understand the argument, that the PTB will create this reality in a very evil way, but just based on the message and assuming we do not know who wrote it I have seen a lot uglier writings. Do humans have the right to produce as many children as they want if they can't afford them? I do not like the prospect of interference with my free will any better than anyone else , but I can think of a lot darker futures than the one described here.

Another thing, If this is a new world order agenda, why in #6 do they say "let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court"?

[Hervé]

[...]
.... If this is a new world order agenda, why in #6 do they say "let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court"?

Yep, let's have the Rothschild nation settle their dispute with the Rockefeller and Reptilian nations at the Hague...

A "world court" implies a "One World Order"!

A "One World Order" is THE solution to a reaction clamored by a planet's humanity when faced with the "problem" shoved down humanity's throat by the controllers/illuminati/cabbal/zionists/etc....

See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75142-Adolf-Hitler-The-Greatest-Story-NEVER-Told-Full-Parts-1-27--6.5Hrs&p=880319&viewfull=1#post880319) (<--- click) to get an idea of what that "problem" might be.

[Delight]

[...]
.... If this is a new world order agenda, why in #6 do they say "let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court"?

Yep, let's have the Rothschild nation settle their dispute with the Rockefeller and Reptilian nations at the Hague...

A "world court" implies a "One World Order"!

A "One World Order" is THE solution to a reaction clamored by a planet's humanity when faced with the "problem" shoved down humanity's throat by the controllers/illuminati/cabbal/zionists/etc....

See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75142-Adolf-Hitler-The-Greatest-Story-NEVER-Told-Full-Parts-1-27--6.5Hrs&p=880319&viewfull=1#post880319) (<--- click) to get an idea of what that "problem" might be.

It may never happen that people agree on these Guide Stones or any plan until we exhaust the limits of misery and I am tempted to be bothered by the way I cannot grok what other people think. How is it that what seems so clearly a stimulus of considering to me looks like edicts and dangerous? I accept that I cannot understand and I will not make me or anyone wrong here.

My question is aside from whatever "forces" are at play, IF we are still finding disputes between "nations", and we are all connected globally, where should we head to resolve these issues? I am not asking you to say here, just that this is the kind of question that means something IMO.

The field records our broadcast of chosen thoughts. I paraphrase another's quote "Thoughts are Things, choose the ones that you value".

It is probable that we are entangled in Sheldrakes theorized
Morphic Resonance:


Morphic resonance is a process whereby self-organising systems inherit a memory from previous similar systems. In its most general formulation, morphic resonance means that the so-called laws of nature are more like habits. The hypothesis of morphic resonance also leads to a radically new interpretation of memory storage in the brain and of biological inheritance. Memory need not be stored in material traces inside brains, which are more like TV receivers than video recorders, tuning into influences from the past. And biological inheritance need not all be coded in the genes, or in epigenetic modifications of the genes; much of it depends on morphic resonance from previous members of the species. Thus each individual inherits a collective memory from past members of the species, and also contributes to the collective memory, affecting other members of the species in the future.
(http://www.sheldrake.org/research/morphic-resonance)

Ideally I would love to see a whole cooperative "resonant excitement and enthusiasm" of understanding. Personally I look forward to ORGANIC telepathic knowing and a larger consciousness awareness that is just so. What effects one affects all seems true on the gorgeous planet.

In my future visioning, I sense that we KNOW what is leading to joy, prosperity, creativity, the ability for each one to experience fullness of the bounty of GAIA and accept nothing less. In my own expectation, the way we have been living is pale and wan and lacks the penultimate potential of cheerful enjoyment of life; an exultation of spirit in full and loving participation.

So know that no matter what people think things look like, no matter how people interpret this work and the works of man, MANKIND has a great future that is certain to be experienced. I keep the light on where I wish to be because I love that. Maggie

[Referee]

Looks like the were a set of praying hands in the cut out behind the 2014 block inserted in the panel

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[Mandala]

At the present time, my vote goes to Ted Turner to be the infamous R.C. Christian.

[araucaria]

We don't necessarily need to blow them up, they are outdated, obsolete, a relic of the past, they now pertain to mainstream archaeology, we can put them in a museum and add a sign saying something like: "20th century ideology, long-forgotten". :rolleyes:
Yes :)
“2014” may be a reference to visual acuity: 20/14 vision is better than normal, you can see farther (at 20 feet what others see at 14). But then, your sight does improve when wearing huge blinkers: you can bring something into better focus through a pinhole formed between the tips of index fingers and thumbs – but it has to be very small. The elitist vision may be sharp but it is heavily blinkered and can only see the world of this tiny minority. Uncorrected panoramic 20/20 vision is what is wanted.

[Curt]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this.

The thing that jumps out at me first is the fact he's bemoaning the growth of developing countries and the consequent shrinking of western influence.

And yet, it would have been he and his cabal who supported NAFTA and other policies that effectively gutted the manufacturing base of North America- which would have accelerated the very 'shift' he's complaining about.

He also fails to mention how he and his super rich pals, knowing what they know about this coming 'shift', (having engineered it) have invested heavily in the developing world, and now own and control much of it.

They're positioned at the trough to capture the lionshare of wealth created there.

It seems to me, with my little old liberal arts education, to be pretty simple: the money is being moved from a smaller economy to a larger one- so that these elite can profit greatly.

And when that bigger pie is created and every last crumb eaten, the money will be moved yet again- somewhere else. Serfs be damned.

Wolfensohn and his pals may need to change addresses when the rest of us in the West are starved out. But I don't think that'll be too much trouble for them.

Historically, they've moved from Babylon to Rome to Venice to Germany to the Netherlands to Britain and eventually to the US.

Pretty sure they'd be comfortable anywhere in the world, which, after all, they feel belongs to them.



What overpopulation really means to the überrich elite. It has nothing to do with the health of the planet or the people, and everything to do with the loss of their outrageous supremacy. A banker’s sob story: ‘Asians eating our lunch and dinner’. ‘The 80:20 rule is going to be a 35:65 rule, and that puts a challenge of dramatic proportions to anybody who’s at a business school today or graduating.’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwZwkhFemQ

mOwZwkhFemQ

[jackovesk]

My thoughts exactly jackovesk............Nicely done

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I would love to see a video of these just blowing up.....

Yep I'm not playing their game and watch as their house of cards comes down and watch the cockroaches run..........................

Nothing at all wrong with being honest Sith73...:thumb:

I can't for the life of me work out, why someone hasn't already done it...:noidea:


I would love to see a video of these just blowing up.....

I'd like to see it 'LIVE' on something like the...

http://www.improaustralia.com.au/theatresports/cranston/images/2006Sponsors/Sponsor_Com-Channel-logo.gif

Where such an Act belongs...:pound:

PS - Perhaps with a 'Benny Hill' type theme...:noidea:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAiq1xKF38k

[jackovesk]

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/guidestones-2014.jpg
http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dirt-grit/stone-age-what-do-georgia-guidestones-know-we-dont-know-about-2014

strange

http://www.fly-tox.com/Page_0/IMAG0004.GIF Some Clues...:noidea:

Meaning, Origins, and Symbolism of the Word ‘Cornerstone’

http://thunderofgod.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/new-picture-13.png?w=304&h=150 Cornerstone

noun \-stōn\

Definition of CORNERSTONE

1: a stone forming a part of a corner or angle in a wall. Specifically, such a stone laid at a formal ceremony
2: a basic element : foundation <a cornerstone of foreign policy>

Examples of CORNERSTONE

1. Officials held a ceremony to lay the cornerstone for a new library.
2. Trust is the cornerstone of their relationship.

First Known Use of CORNERSTONE: 13th century

Related to CORNERSTONE

Synonyms: basis, bedrock, bottom, base, footing, foundation, ground, groundwork, keystone, root, underpinning,

Mirriam-Webster Dictionary

http://thunderofgod.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/new-picture-13.png?w=304&h=150

1. the basic part of something, on which everything depends- the cornerstone of:

2. the stone at one of the bottom corners of a new building, often put there during a special ceremony

- Macmillan Dictionary

For many different reasons, the obvious and common sense understanding about Capstones, Cornerstones, and the eyes of the pyramids appears to be somewhat missing or lacking among nearly all the Judeo-Christian believers of today. It is, in fact, somewhat tragic that, for a great number of years now, the vast majority of American people have been incorrectly viewing the eye above the pyramid as a ‘Cornerstone’, rather the eye below the pyramid (a blatantly literal representation of a Cornerstone).

Seen carefully, and logically, the eye above, the pyramid would more appropriately be designated as a ‘Capstone‘, which has always been located at the top, rather than the bottom, of a building or some other structure. Given that this obvious and diabolically confusing nonsense has lasted for over 200 years, with very few people ever really actually knowing that it is the eye below the pyramid that truly is the Cornerstone, it seems high time for this oversight to be corrected. At the dawn of the third millennium, it seems most appropriate for all Americans, and indeed all people, to have a thorough understanding of the eyes of the pyramid once and for all. Here is the correct definition of Capstone:

The Capstone

1. top stone: a stone used at the top of a wall or another structure

2. high point: something considered the highest achievement or most important action in a series of actions

- Encarta World English Dictionary

The Capstone (kapstone) n.

1. The top stone of a structure or wall.

2. The crowning achievement or final stroke; the culmination or acme.

- American Heritage Dictionary

The Seven Basics of the Capstone

I. Top
II. Up
III. Above
IV. Over
V. High
VI. Height
VII. North

The Seven Basics of the Cornerstone

I. Bottom
II. Down
III. Below
IV. Under
V. Low
VI. Depth
VII. South


The Star of David

The Eye Above + the Eye Below

I. Top + Bottom
II. Up + Down
III. Above + Below
IV. Over + Under
V. High + Low
VI. Height + Depth
VII. North + South

_______________________________________________________________

The Capstone, the Cornerstone, and the Natural World

http://thunderofgod.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/new-picture-13.png?w=596&h=150

I. Mountain —————- I. Valley
II. Stalagmites ————- II. Stalactites
III. Clouds —————– III. Lakes
IV. Ocean Wave ———- IV. Undertow
V. Branches ————— V. Roots
VI. Volcano ————— VI. Tornado
VII. Birds —————— VII. Mammals

http://thunderofgod.wordpress.com/about/

[Rosieposie]

This may have been mentioned (in a rush and haven't read the entire thread) but that cube doesn't really match the stone work or fit perfectly..

Is it possible that it may not be intended to be there at all by the originators? aka someone outside the original peoples stuck it there as a publicity stunt/story?

[jackovesk]

This may have been mentioned (in a rush and haven't read the entire thread) but that cube doesn't really match the stone work or fit perfectly..

Is it possible that it may not be intended to be there at all by the originators? aka someone outside the original peoples stuck it there as a publicity stunt/story?

Don't think so...:nono:

Why?

Because it would have been picked up by the 24/7 surveillance camera's...:photo:

However that just 'Sparked' another Theory (Ready for this...:confused:)


The little "Cube" Cornerstone (2014) is...

a) A "Cube" has significant "Esoteric" meanings/ramifications

b) Notice how the (2014) 'Cube' is NOT pushed all they way in...:nono:

What if - That was a ((SIGN)) to say ((We are locked & loaded - False Flag Event Locked-in))

Once the ((False-Flag)) has eventuated, what's not to say the 'Cube' will be ((Pushed Flush & All the way in)) to signify the 'EVENT'...:noidea:

[araucaria]

What the oversize cube does is highlight a chevron. This may be seen in its ancient symbolism (the shield)
http://www.richardcassaro.com/sinister-corporate-symbols
or alternatively as the trademark of a particular oil corporation: Chevron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron_Corporation

or again it might mean a change of direction, placing the 20 in the light, and the 14 in the shade.

As I said before, I don’t see 20 14 as a date. It may be meant as one, but I deliberately prefer to play around with it anyway. If we substitute 14 for 20, we are in the year 1414. Next year is 1415, the year of the Battle of Agincourt. That was a place where shields proved highly ineffective as, against all the rules of chivalry in war, Henry V’s ‘happy few’ of English archers butchered the French aristocratic elite. These commoners were supposed to fight it out with their peers, not their betters. This was a game-changer, because many of the nobles, who were supposed to get off with a ransom, were either too eager to be in the front line and got picked off, or were taken prisoner in such unmanageable numbers that they mostly had to be executed. This was when getting killed really took the fun out of war and other ways had to be found to make money out of it while only the peasants got killed.

So, in 1415, the elite were on the losing end to hugely inferior numbers. Maybe the idea is for them, 600 years later in 2015, this time with the hugely inferior numbers in their (dis)favour, to inflict a similar massacre on the unsuspecting commoners.

[Octavusprime]

I'd be curious to know how long the surveillance cameras have been up. Were they erected after the cube was cut in 2009 or before? If they showed up after it would be an indication that whoever watches the guide stones was not directly involved with the modification. If the cameras have been there prior to 2009 then how was the cut made without someone knowing about it?

The addition does seem out of place but then again maybe it is supposed to. I wonder if something is written on the other 4 sides of the cube... Perhaps the cube sticks out to indicate that it must be removed to find the true meaning...

Interesting that the outline is there in 2007, cut is made in 2009, cube shows up 2014. This is a "prank" a long time in the making but completely feasible for a dedicated individual or group. I'm on the fence as to whether is was placed by the original creators or someone trying to create additional meaning. I'd love to pull that cube out for a closer look.

[Milneman]

Jesus......

If all it takes to get people talking is to write something in stone, maybe we should write "put down your guns" or "make love not war" into the side of a mountain.

It's stone with words carved into it. You bring the meaning, you interpret the evil or the good.

But look at all the words carved into your minds? And look how interesting one small block of stone made all these people jump up like a frightened ant colony.

Baaaaaa. :suspicious::twitch::suspicious:

[SilentFeathers]

"officials" removed the cube....all 6 sides had something on it. (the video also shows the guy that took it down smashing it apart with a stone hammer and chisel and giving some chunks of it away to some tourists/visitors.)

8
MM
16
JAM
20
14

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[gripreaper]

I think the cube signifies 1402 or 1420, which doesn't make much difference, when the Roman Curie developed the trusts which took control of the whole planet, and they declared ownership of all the land and all the people, and developed the trusts which locked in the indenture in the energetic matrix, and to this day, still remains UNCHALLENGED OR UNREBUTTED.

They are still laughing at us for acquiescing to them and giving them all of our power.

[Referee]

More on the Cube and possible meanings of the lettering/ Symbols/ numbers mentioned by Silent Feathers here in post 87

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[araucaria]

More on the Cube and possible meanings of the lettering/ Symbols/ numbers mentioned by Silent Feathers here in post 87

rpk5hdHrpoY
He's talking about one person in 14 of the global population dieing off, and he comes up with (a tsunami and) one possible case of Ebola on Jamaisa??:confused:

[Referee]

Police State Radio breaks it down as well.

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[DaRkViPeR]

Hi Everybody

The Georgia Guidestones cube has been removed and broken into pieces.
There were letters and numbers on all six sides.

Top: MM

Bottom JAM

The four sides: 20, 14, 8, 16

There are 2 vids showing the removal and destruction of the cube.

Link: http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2014/09/georgia-guidestones-2014-cube-has-been.html

Can anybody give some clarification on the numbers and letters on the cube?

Mod edit. Thread merged.
Billy

[Atlas]

There's a discussion here: projectavalon.net/The Georgia Guidestones have been updated w/ 2014 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75168-The-Georgia-Guidestones-have-been-updated-w-2014)

[SilentFeathers]

Hi Everybody

The Georgia Guidestones cube has been removed and broken into pieces.
There were letters and numbers on all six sides.

Top: MM

Bottom JAM

The four sides: 20, 14, 8, 16

There are 2 vids showing the removal and destruction of the cube.

Link: http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2014/09/georgia-guidestones-2014-cube-has-been.html

Can anybody give some clarification on the numbers and letters on the cube?

Mod edit. Thread merged.
Billy

I'm sure they mean something to someone.....to me it looks like there may of been a Megadeath and Metallica (MM) concert (JAM) on August (8) 16, 2014

[GlassSteagallfan]

At approx 5:27, the fellow chipping the block is asked (paraphrasing), "is something else going to be put in the empty space?" and his reply is (paraphrasing) "we have the original piece".

It seems that this fellow is an 'accessory to the mystery'. Why would he have the original piece? Why (or who) was it removed and left empty for a bit? How did the creator of the '2014 block' get the dimensions and place the block while cameras are recording?

The mystery deepens.

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Wyrmspleen]

The Destruction of the Coded 20-14 Georgia Guidestone Block - MrCati


http://youtu.be/WlmeUbMD3zY?list=PL3ncUpA0k1-myaVylZWby6K7HMHhZS0dn

still working out the forum, not sure why video not showing but theres the link

[Operator]

WlmeUbMD3zY

Take the whole code after v= from the url (WlmeUbMD3zY in this case) ... till the next & character (if any appears after v=)
Then embed that code with the YouTube tags

[Maia Gabrial]

Looks like the 2014 block was unauthorized. Maybe not.... Check this out:

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[Atlas]

Already posted here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75168-The-Georgia-Guidestones-have-been-updated-w-2014&p=882602&viewfull=1#post882602

[Snowflower]

Amazingly distorted video (of the cube's destruction.). I wonder why?

I watched the video. I don't know. - I guess we'll know after Oct. 23. Whatever is supposed to happen then.

I kind of figured when I watched them destroy the thing, that there was a terrible message there. There was reason for placing it, reason for the numbers, and reason for the symbolic destruction. No WAY would a simple park employee have taken it upon himself to actually chisel the numbers and letters off the sides and handed them out as souvenirs. So, maybe the guy doing this video has something.

[MorningSong]

UPDATE!

Here's a Video by a fellow who says he added the recent stone to the Georgia Guidestones and WHY:

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[Robin]

UPDATE!

Here's a Video by a fellow who says he added the recent stone to the Georgia Guidestones and WHY:

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I just finished watching the video and still have no idea what this individual's purpose was behind placing this cube in the Guidestones (if it was actually him). He provided a great amount of research on numerology and gematria, but that is information that is more or less already well known in our circle.

So...what was his point? To try and garner attention for his prophecy?

[sandy]

Well my brain is fried after trying to listen to this video................he is right about, the fact that it can be boring or seem boring as the constant reiteration of numbers broken down from dates, etc, is almost hypnotic in nature.

I think there is something to numerology, codeing and such but an hour's worth of numbers to qualify his numeric patterns, and prediction of something happening on April 11, 2015 is a bit much along with his said claim of culpability for placing the stone block in the Georgia Guidestones. It would seem he is looking to be taken seriously or has another agenda as yet revealed..........just my 2 cents worth .........

[Seeker of Knowledge]

I started to do some research into the newest debacle surrounding the Georgia Guidestones and here are a few findings, make of it what you will:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K_cuMDyHFc

http://vanshardware.com/2010/01/more-linkage-between-the-georgia-guidestones-and-the-burj-khalifa/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyb2yg8cpLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UEbNUl7X6A

[MorningSong]

I appologize for not having finished watching the above video before posting.... it was late for me and I just assumed there would be a revelation at the end.

And yet, I too was peplexed as to the "WHY".... and even more questions arose... just take a look at the comments/Q&A's on YT:

From the comment section under the video:


Bigolbeardog
15 ore fa

I still would like to know how you got away with it seeing is how there are surveillance cameras everywhere. My apologies on my first comment.

Georgia Guidestones
15 ore fa

+Bigolbeardog Since there was a wedding scheduled that day I called the Elberton Co Sheriff and told them there would be a ceremony and some decorations. The ladder was/is collapsible and it's all about the angle (since there is only one location for the camera) and strategy.

It appears that this fellow didn't have anyone's permisssion and placed the stone as a decoration for his wedding, fooling the observers behind the sorvegliance cameras (who would want to get married there unless they believed the writings on the stones?)


Jeffery Humphrey
1 giorno fa

But this video in interesting but I have a question for the video maker, are you working with the elite?

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Georgia Guidestones
1 giorno fa

I work for no one of the sort. I have family in the NSA but I tell them to their face that they are part of the problem of allowing stuff like 911 to happen...they, as every other alphabet agency are only there to make sure the little guys don't do anything to screw up their plans.
I just take what I believe to be God's plan and show how it's being implemented in our life today. 

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EnergyInventor
1 giorno fa

+Georgia Guidestones I just have one question. You mention God several times in your comments. Which God are you referring to or do you follow? You either follow Jesus/Yeshua or Lucifer or none at all. You care to elaborate?

Georgia Guidestones
16 ore fa

Absolutely...If you watched the video you will notice that I reference the Guidestones to the 10 Commandments of Exodus and the Cube represents the Kingdom of Heaven AND Jesus Christ YESHUA...Even the shirts I open the video with reflect this. The SHARK and BUTTERFLY shirts say:
Salvation Happens As Repenters Kneel
Believers Ultimately Take The Eternal Reward For Loving Yeshua.

It is the Great I AM (יהוה) that I follow and I'm just trying to shoe HIStory in everything around us. 


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SuperThomKatt
13 ore fa

Were you arrested for vandalism of the GG for putting the cube in it ?

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Georgia Guidestones
13 ore fa

There was no vandalism that occurred. Leaving a piece of granite on a piece of granite at the most would be considered littering. The graffiti put there after I left was vandalism and they deserve to be treated as vandals. 
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Georgia Guidestones
12 ore fa

The cube was pre-cut when the guidestones were first made and sealed back in to be taken at a future date as well as returned...this is all part of a greater ritual for a greater meaning and you are seeing it unfold before you.


4UEbNUl7X6A

My opinion att: another.... "pazzo furioso"...illuded person who thinks he has a prophetic mission to compute..... we shall see.

[Atlas]

In a follow-up video published today as a response to critics, Massanelli exhibits his Marriage Certificate from Elbert County in detail, blueprint plans for the cube, an online discussion made with the Elberton Granite fabricator over the last year and his Facebook page. To prove that he was in the Marines, Massanelli produced an album containing pictures from his service in the Marine Corps along with his VA card. The second video can be viewed here:

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https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10665083_701264136629679_4152147930472574207_n.jpg?oh=4b083679d1b6791a5f1cae1c38431406&oe=54EEC0AA

Source: http://vanshardware.com/2014/11/video-claims-to-explain-origin-of-georgia-guidestones-cube/

[SilentFeathers]

So what do we do now, send the guy a trophy and thank you card? sheesh!

Obviously he wants some recognition or to go to jail....or both...