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A Voice from the Mountains
3rd October 2014, 02:25
I've been compiling a book of personal notes for myself or anyone else to read should they so desire, and as part of this project I did a little bit of digging into some of the things that have been coming from whatdoesitmean.com, aka the home of the "Sorcha Faal" stuff.

I believe these is some level of fairly obvious disinformation on the site, but the obviousness of it and how close it touches on things that actually appear to be happening is my focus here. For example, something that is very possible is sometimes suggested in their original articles, while attributing them to sources which are fairly obviously false.

I was interested in what additional information anyone here might have on the website, but I thought I would post this first as a starting point for what I've been able to put together and some thoughts I've had about it.

So this what I have in my book of notes:




whatdoesitmean.com

This website holds a somewhat complex and controversial place within the online political conspiracy theory community. Some articles originating from this website are eventually discussed on radio programs such as Coast to Coast AM and Ground Zero, often without mention of the website from which they've originated.

Infamously, one article from whatdoesitmean.com (“Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler” Link Stun Russia”) was picked up by the Iranian news agency Fars News (http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn= 13921021000393), which was in turn picked up by Forbes magazine (http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2014/01/13/iran-says-tall-white-space-aliens-control-america/) and used as propaganda against the Iranians. The article stated that “tall white” extraterrestrials which had worked with the Nazis in Germany during WW2 are now “driving” US policies. This story, due to its Iranian coverage, was also brought up in the Washington Post, the Huffington Post, YaleGlobal, as well as the Coast to Coast AM, Ground Zero, and John Batchelor radio shows, and was distributed widely across Internet communities.

The way in which this article was spread, and the way in which it was received and used by various organizations and people, is in a way very characteristic of the over-all controversy associated with this website. In one sense, it's radical, and presents articles that appear totally baseless. In another sense, the original articles only seem to reflect subject matter that is already being widely discussed across alternative radio and the Internet.

On the whatdoesitmean.com website, two very different kinds of articles may be found:


Articles originating from whatdoesitmean.com itself.
Mainstream national headlines from all over the world, which are linked to tables organized by country.



On one hand, not only does this website offer a wide variety of national headlines from nations all over the world, but its own original “reporting” is often in alignment in many respects with other independent and credible researchers on various topics which are not included in mainstream national headlines. In this respect it often seems reliable.

On the other hand, many of its original articles seem to try to play on fear and hype sensationally, and many of the original articles also seem totally baseless, in that they repeatedly cite sources when it is apparent that these alleged sources have not in reality given the information. In this respect it often seems very unreliable, even intentionally manipulative.

Articles originating from whatdoesitmean.com are typically attributed to someone named Sorcha Faal. “Sorcha” is an Irish name meaning “brightness,” and “Faal” is similar to the Irish word “Fál” or “Fáil,” which is an ancient name for Ireland, though Sorcha Faal was originally portrayed as a Russian scientist (more on this later). It is widely considered that Sorcha Faal is not a real person and that she is a pseudonym used for articles posted by David Booth. “Her” articles on the whatdoesitmean.com website typically cite Russian government sources, link to Russian government websites (which never corroborate her stories), and often are about Russia or its reactions to international political events. The links are presented in such a way that one is given the impression that the pages being linked to actually give the information that Faal is relaying to English-speakers, but in reality these pages, when translated, are generic government pages giving only basic information on the function of various agencies, and are not news reports.

No one has apparently been able to find any indication that the information given in the Sorcha Faal articles can be specifically traced back to any of these Russian sources independently of Faal, and it seems very unlikely that any serious intelligence agency would act as what amounts to its own “news agency” through this website or any other. Like the American CIA or NSA, Russian intelligence agencies do not publicize information without being directed to do so by high-ranking officials.

A sample of some of the less credible articles from whatdoesitmean.com which appeal to fear, and are authored by Sorcha Faal, feature the following titles:

Russian Worries Grow As Secretive Obama “Shock Troops” Deploy Across America
Putin Orders Saudi Arabia “Destroyed” After Volgograd Terror Strikes
Obama Order To “Destroy Duck Dynasty” Stunningly Revealed
Evidence That 5 Million Americans Have Been “Disappeared” By Obama Shocks Russia
War Fears Rise After China Missile Tests Over Oregon

In this sample of Sorcha Faal articles from 2013 and 2014, some typical patterns to these articles will be noticed. As stated, they often are about Russia or its reaction to international political events. They also seem to appeal to fear, have sensational, even tabloid-like titles, and very often imply that the US is on the brink of both international and civil war. While there seems to be some truth to the content of some of these articles (for example, the US has been giving police officers military training in some areas and preparing them for “martial law” situations, and China has been testing new missile technologies), the content of the articles are presented in such a way as to reduce their credibility, by apparently linking to false sources, using sensationalist language, etc.

However, whatdoesitmean.com also links to mainstream national articles from the US, Russia, China, the UK, Germany, France, Israel, Turkey, Egypt, Japan, and many other nations, and organizes them by country. These articles are not the typical kind of media “padding” such as entertainment stories, for example, but give a fair representation of the internal political maneuverings of each of these nations as represented by their own national media headlines which are being pushed upon their own citizens.

A sample of some of the mainstream articles linked to by whatdoesitmean.com include the following titles:

Obama Seeks to Calm Saudis as Paths Split (New York Times)
9 Air Force commanders at Montana nuclear base fired over exam cheating scandal (The Guardian)
Putin: Russia to protect citizens from GMO food without violating its WTO obligations (from Voice of Russia, an official Russian government media service)
China to chase tax evaders with own version of US foreign account law (South China Morning Post)
UK government threatens to shut down Guardian over Snowden leaks (Voice of Russia)
India tests new underwater nuclear missile (Times of India)
Economic 'honeymoon' between Germany and China fades (Reuters)
Gruesome video of European jihadists in Syria shocks France (France 24)
Merkel says she is not ready to back economic sanctions against Russia (Russia Today)

This service provided by whatdoesitmean.com, with regularly updated links, is actually a fairly useful and convenient way of organizing international political headlines for the reader, and the links direct away from the whatdoesitmean.com website to the websites of the actual news services from which the various national articles themselves originate.

Into the mixed bag of reporting which is presented on this website, the origins and history of the website will now be briefly described.

On Internet archive websites such as web.archive.org, it will be found that in April of 2004, David Booth was listed on the website as its “founder,” (http://web.archive.org/web/20040403170104/http://www.what doesitmean.com/index15.htm) specially noting the following text:


Books and videos for sale on this site are published by Long Trail Acres Publishing.

Our purpose and mission is to provide the public with a 'one stop' resource for world news and to put then put it into a unique perspective showing you, the reader, "What Does It Mean".

Founder of this site:

David Booth is an internationally known psychic, researcher, and author who has appeared on numerous television (BBC, In Search Of, 20/20, etc.) and radio programs and whose unique life story has been featured in numerous magazine articles, books, and websites throughout the world.

David Booth also remains to this day the only person in the world to have had a pre-cognitive experience fully documented prior to the event by a government agency.

David Booth is an author, first recognized as a psychic after apparently informing the FAA in March 1979 of a vision he said he had experienced that led him to believe that a catastrophic airline crash was imminent. Shortly after, on May 25, 1979, American Airlines Flight 191 did in fact crash, resulting in 273 fatalities, making it the deadliest airline crash on US soil.

Using this event to establish his credibility as “an internationally known psychic,” David has also been a guest on the Coast to Coast AM radio program at least three times: on Feb. 23, 2004, Mar. 18, 2004, and May 3, 2007. On both show dates in 2004 he was accompanied by author Wayne Green. On C2C, David has discussed what he believes to be impending global catastrophes, the real meaning of the Third Secret of Fátima, the idea that we are living in biblical end times, etc., all being generally negative and apparently fear-based and/or fear-provoking views. His interview in March of 2004 was cut short by George Noory because Booth refused to elaborate on a revelation supposedly made to him by Sister Lucia, the last surviving witness to the three secrets, for which Booth had been booked to appear on the show in the first place. Interestingly, the C2C website continues to list Booth's personal website as whatdoesitmean.com (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/booth-david/6298).

David Booth's name later disappeared from the whatdoesitmean.com website, and the name “Sorcha Faal” became prominently associated with the articles originating there.
Another page archived at web.archive.org from December of 2005 from whatdoesitmean.com (http://web.archive.org/web/20051210182008/http://www.what doesitmean.com/index738.htm) gives the following advertizement and biographical information on Sorcha Faal:


Sorcha Faal’s Books Available Now In English!

Picking up the Pieces: Practical Guide for Surviving Economic Crashes, Internal Unrest and Military Suppression By: Sorcha Faal1 “In the span of less than 3 months gasoline prices will rise 500%. The prices of both food and shelter rise over 300%.

Sorcha Faal is an International Researcher and Author who goes beyond the simple explanations used to explain today’s issues. “Life is meant to be more than accepting our world as separate pieces; everyone must see the interconnectedness of everything.” She is fond of saying.

As a child growing up in St. Petersburg, Russia, Sorcha’s life mirrored others of her generation in experiencing in education and life an experience of freedom, thought and religion not known to her parents or grandparents.

Seeing that many prominent, and esteemed, Russian researchers, and their works, are not only undervalued in Western countries but also practically unknown, Sorcha has devoted herself to providing a bridge to the world for those ideas and thoughts previously unknown.

Utilizing her skills in engineering and intelligence analysis she provides to the reader a unique approach to understanding this world of ours in the areas of current political, astronomical, earth sciences and medical events.

Momentous changes are occurring on almost a daily basis to our world and what is missing the most for true comprehension are the contexts to put them into. Without context news stories are just words, and soon forgotten.

Sorcha and many others believe that we are entering a Century of great change, not only for our hearts and minds, but perhaps for our very souls also. Like many others also around the world, and from many countries, Sorcha joins the effort to educate as many as possible towards these events so that they will not become surprised, or be led into despair.

As stated here, Sorcha Faal is the name of a specific woman, an “International Researcher and Author,” who grew up in Russia, and decided to devote herself to bringing Russian interests to western readers.
However, by 2009, after some digging by Internet users could find no evidence that anyone named Sorcha Faal existed in Russia, especially with the academic credentials attributed to Sorcha, the whatdoesitmean.com website would say that the name “Sorcha Faal” is rather the title of the head of an order called the “Order of Sorcha Faal,” the current head being given the name “Maria Theresa of Dublin .” Just as no evidence could be found for the existence of a Sorcha Faal in Russia, neither has any evidence of this “order” been found outside of the whatdoesitmean.com website itself.
The obvious contradictions regarding something as simple as who is running this website and who is writing its articles have only contributed that much more to the controversial nature of the website and the idea of its original reports being taken seriously. It must be admitted that the website cannot be trusted and its original articles must be examined carefully. However, as stated on the website for the Ground Zero radio show (http://www.groundzeromedia.org/finding-the-tall-white-hope/):


It has been noted by many people who read the website that Faal is deliberately disseminating disinfor-mation.

Now, disinformation is not necessarily a lie, it’s simply misdirection and with every ploy of disinformation there are a few truths that are hidden between the lines.

It is with this sentiment in mind that we consider what the real purpose of this website may be, and who or what is ultimately behind it. Because while the website is obviously sensational and baseless to those who do not follow “alternative” media, the articles are also close enough to exactly what is being discussed in these alternative media networks, that people who do follow this sort of information are attracted to it and may take it very seriously (such as its article on the Virginia and Colorado earthquakes, which were likely not natural earthquakes but underground detonations, possibly related to an "inter-cabal" conflict). The content of many of the original articles is sometimes nearly identical in substance to what independent researchers are reporting or investigating online or on radio programs, etc.

Since it can be concluded based on the contradictions and apparent falsities surrounding the simple question of the website's ownership that the website is not very credible to begin with, the chances that everything it reports is 100% accurate seem to be extremely low, to say the least.

The website's content from the name of “Sorcha Faal” fits with Booth's fear-based perspectives as represented in his C2C interviews. Considering that the website originally listed David Booth as its founder, and that David Booth and Sorcha Faal are both listed as authors of the book [I]Picking up the Pieces, it seems more than likely that Booth himself is either posting these articles or is closely associated with whoever is.

It has been suggested on some websites (of course without verification) that David Booth and the pseudonym Sorcha Faal represent a disinformation campaign that is directed by an intelligence agency out of the US or some other western nation. This would not seem to be a very surprising conclusion given that military groups have in the past suggested having interest in paying individuals to promote its agendas on blogs and other websites. This would appear to be a complex disinformation campaign, however, considering that the information presented on it as news seems to be reliable information (as supported by various other sources) mixed with sources that are apparently fabricated, as well as “Sorcha Faal” herself being a fairly obviously fabricated source. In this way it would seem to be a method of “poisoning the well,” or presently information that is perhaps half factual but from a source which is very easy to discredit, thereby discrediting the information itself, even if there is actually truth to it regardless of this website's “reporting.”



So in conclusion, I'm left with two possibilities that I can't decide between:


1. whatdoesitmean.com is intelligence-sponsored dis-information, mixing accurate information with misleading information to “poison the wells.”
2. whatdoesitmean.com disseminates valid information which is attributed to obviously falsified and uncredible sources in order to inoculate it to suppression.


Or we could have a mixture of the two.


Thoughts?

A Voice from the Mountains
3rd October 2014, 02:38
For reference, this is the one article in particular that I thought might actually have some credibility to it:


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This is a loud howling or vacuum-like noise that was recorded during a baseball game in Florida, apparently on the evening prior to the Virginia earthquake.

This video was uploaded to YouTube on August 23, 2011, and the Virginia earthquake itself was on August 23, 2011 at 13:51 local time. There is lots of evidence from independent researchers that this was not a natural earthquake. Many people were looking at the seismographs and comparing them to underground detonations, and if I recall correctly even Benjamin Fulford was receiving information that this was an underground attack on either a transportation system or some kind of underground "city" or bunker that was going to be used by the Bush/Nazi cabal in the case of an act of terror that they generated.

The whatdoesitmean.com website suggested that this sound heard during the baseball game was caused by one of these massive underground tunnels with an exit near the ballpark being opened up to the atmosphere, since a vacuum or near-vacuum must apparently be maintained in order for "vactrains" to work.

Vactrains are real, by the way, and China is already working on them publicly, which is something else Ben Fulford has talked about. Ben said that China was given this technology by the Federal Reserve cabal in order to extend the amount of time that China would be willing to play ball with the Feds' rigging of international finances.


China developing 600 mph airless maglev high-speed train (http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/smart-takes/china-developing-600-mph-airless-maglev-high-speed-train/)


“Vactrains” could take you from NYC to London in an hour hitting speeds up to 2,500 mph (http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/06/12/vactrains-could-take-you-from-nyc-to-london-in-an-hour-hitting-speeds-up-to-2500-mph/)


So this is one case where the editors of this site may not really be pulling our legs, except to attribute this information to those eternal reports circulating in the Kremlin. :rolleyes:

Tyy1907
3rd October 2014, 03:09
Like quite a few sources on the net, I think it could be a disinfo site. "Counter-intelligence" mixed with "Intelligence". What better way to smear a truthful story than to put out crap that discredits that outlet-done deal. Their ways will be exposed one day.

A Voice from the Mountains
3rd October 2014, 03:22
What gets me is that if you look at a counter-intelligence website like AboveTopSecret, then they use all the classic techniques of dividing people by letting the "skeptics" use ad hominem and agitate and distract in that way, and they ridicule good research with sock puppet accounts and promote a lot of garbage that won't raise our awareness much, if any.

So then if whatdoesitmean.com is also counter-intelligence, then it must be aimed at a much higher tier of researchers, because of the kind of things they're mixing into the articles. It's not just generic garbage, but there seems to be an extra cup of good research stirred in with the garbage. And then when you look at the garbage, anyone could just say "I have secret inside sources that I can't reveal," but instead this website decides to attribute its articles to a foreign intelligence network which obviously does not just give information to the public or even to the Kremlin as far as I'm aware. And then they do this not only once but over and over and over again.... So it gets to the point where you have to ask yourself, are they trying to be obvious in giving a false source, to give plausible deniability to the articles?

Cardillac
3rd October 2014, 16:23
"Sorcha Faal is the name of a specific woman, an “International Researcher and Author,” who grew up in Russia"- I've asked my two Russian co-workers if this name could possibly be Russian and both said "nyet"

donk
3rd October 2014, 17:20
Why don't we apply this train of thought to the venerated Gordon Duff?

avid
3rd October 2014, 17:52
Sorcha Faal is disinfo merchant - proven, take no notice of drip-feeds.

Rocky_Shorz
3rd October 2014, 21:05
Let me show you how to read Sorcha reports...

the first ebola report had many truths, but this one also on Ebola, I read differently...

:Shockingly in the SVR documents obtained from Rear Admiral Lurie, this report says, is the blaming of the cause of the current polio epidemic sweeping America on a failed vaccine ingredient given to nearly all of the children in America.

Specifically, this report says, a “5 in 1, combination” vaccine named Pediarix™ given to American children to protect them against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis B, and polio, manufactured by the pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), had a “substandard” ingredient included that was made by the Chinese chemical facility Meryer (Shanghai) Chemical Technology Company, Ltd.

The vaccine ingredient provided to GSK from its Chinese supplier, this report continues, is called glutaraldehyde, which is a pungent colorless oily liquid used in Pediarix™ as a preservative for long term storage, but has been in constant global short supply due to its other use as a component of hydraulic fracturing “fracking” fluid that is included in the additive called Alpha 1427, as a biocide.

MoH scientists in this report speculate that the “lead contaminated/substandard” glutaraldehyde in this childhood vaccine has “very likely” rendered the polio virus component of it “ineffective”, a position the SVR documents on Rear Admiral Lurie appear to substantiate.

To the devastation being wrought upon America’s children by this polio epidemic, which we first reported on in our 8 September report Obama Regime Silent As Massive Polio Outbreak Sweeps America, this report warns that this child-paralyzing virus has now spread across 40 US States and has been linked to at least four deaths.

The reason Russian children are not being affected by this polio outbreak sweeping America [erroneously called enterovirus 68 by the Obama regime to confuse its citizens], this MoH report explains, is due to the use of the Sanofi Pasteur polio vaccine which does not include any ingredients manufactured in China, where GSK is currently being investigated by authorities in that country over allegations of fraudulent behaviour.

Even more critical in this report, aside from the devastation befalling America’s children, are documents obtained from Rear Admiral Lurie by the SVR proving that the Obama regime has “long been planning” for the Ebola virus to strike their country. " link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1808.htm)

what I saw in that...

ingredients in Hydrolic Fracturing has been found to cause Polio, and drill baby drillers are Freaking Fracking supporters...

ooh that's not going to look good on a Congressional Resume

hey Koch IsonU mr patent holders

first indication it was written to deflect democrats at the beginning...

Obama is the evil creator of Polio and Ebola coming to US soon...

the programming of network TV has Obama supporters stop reading further to evade subject...

if it starts out Obama amazingly saves Africa single handedly from ebola... the GOP rolls their eyes and moves on, avoiding anything to follow...

once you understand the intro, those in the know sees who the spin is directed towards, first thought is, why would the GOP spinners want preprogrammed answers the first time Fracking is blamed for the Polio outbreak in the US?

now you are starting to understand Sorcha, the Spin Doctor for the Government beyond rules...

Rocky_Shorz
3rd October 2014, 21:45
how many of you knew fracking causes polio by nullifying kids vaccines?

Don't all of you feel special knowing the same people handle chemtrailing our world's sky?


Edited to add:

for those who looked it up, it is a chemical used in hospitals to kill Ebola...

I know, I know, it's about like turning in a lotto ticket after holding it a few weeks knowing it could be a winner...

for those following Sorcha, it's a brain exercise... :doh:


it gets you thinking through what ifs...

you are prepared walking in everything is a story...

Bill Ryan
3rd October 2014, 21:56
I think it could be a disinfo site.

It is. "Sorcha Faal" = CIA agent David Booth. Please ignore the site (and the 'info'!) completely. :)

A Voice from the Mountains
5th October 2014, 06:05
The biggest turn-off about David Booth for me was hearing him on Coast to Coast AM and hearing how much doom and gloom it was. Fear is used to control people and there is no benefit to spreading it. Even if there is bad news to face, you want to do it in an optimistic, not fatalistic, way.

On that note, though a little off topic, the "official spokesperson" of Billy Meier was on Coast to Coast AM while I was listening once, and this guy was also full of doom and gloom. I know Billy Meier's stuff is controversial too and I don't know what to make of Meier himself. But this guy calling himself Billy's spokesperson was on a similar trip as Booth. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt until someone called in and asked what he thought about chemtrails. Then he sidestepped that topic completely and began to blame climate change on industrial pollution and start preaching the UN's agenda for creating the equivalent of a federal reserve for industry, trading carbon credits. That's when I began to think twice about how he said that a US military colonel had validated some of Billy Meier's photos. If you work for an intelligence agency it can't be too hard to get a military officer to say something for you.

Omni
5th October 2014, 06:52
Thank you for accumulating the info on this guy bsbray. I recommend signing up a wordpress or blogger free blog, and putting a few nice posts together so this man can be further exposed. I would love to see it done. I can help you set it up if you would like. :)

A Voice from the Mountains
5th October 2014, 18:07
Thank you for accumulating the info on this guy bsbray. I recommend signing up a wordpress or blogger free blog, and putting a few nice posts together so this man can be further exposed. I would love to see it done. I can help you set it up if you would like. :)

I already have a blog about how the ATS forums are disinfo, here: http://atsisdisinfo.blogspot.com/

I'm not sure if I want to begin diluting that with stuff about other websites; I think I want to keep my grudge against ATS fairly pure. :)

Having said that, I've been thinking of starting another blog and what I'm really trying to figure out how to do is publish the notes I've been putting into book form online. It's working title is just "Book of Arcane Notes" and here are the planned contents as of now, mostly already completed:

Preface

Notes Taken from Radio Broadcasts

Notes Taken from Books
Lost Knowledge of the Ancients
Lost Civilizations & Secrets of the Past
The Lost Worlds of Ancient America
Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Science of the Ancients
The Bermuda Triangle
Arthur C. Clarke's Chronicles of the Strange and Mysterious
There Is a River
Le Livre Du Mystérieux Inconnu
The Myths of the North American Indians
The Twelfth Planet

Notes from Channeled Works
Bashar
A Dweller on Two Planets

Notes Taken from Videos
Project Camelot Interview Notes Collection
Nature Was My Teacher: The Vision of Viktor Schauberger
Water: The Great Mystery
Alan Wilson: The Real History of Britain

Notes Taken from the Internet
2011 Virginia Earthquake
Anomalies of the Moon
Benjamin Fulford
“Bigfoot” DNA: The Work of Dr. Melba S. Ketchum
The Coelbren Alphabet
Immanuel Velikovsky
Jim Stone
John B. Wells' Firing from Coast to Coast AM
Majestic 12
MK Ultra, the Greenbaum Speech & Virginia Tech
Suppressed History & Out-of-Place Artifacts
UFO Reporting Center
Miscellaneous Internet Notes

Summaries
Timelines of Events
Atlantis
After the Catastrophe
The Second Catastrophe
After the Biblical Flood
The Current State of Global Politics


It's looking to be at least about 700 pages the way I'm printing it, and this is after I've split off a lot of it into a 2nd volume. These notes are very good for me to organize the things I've come across, but if other people browse through them, the radio notes alone are a distillation of 100's of hours of radio programs like Coast to Coast, Ground Zero, the Conspiracy Show with Richard Syrett and online streaming radio programs, and there are notes condensed from thousands of pages of books.

A Voice from the Mountains
20th October 2014, 06:50
Well I have an update here.

I started listening to interviews of Simon Parkes, and I found the one conducted on behalf of Project Avalon. So Simon mentions that when Hillary Clinton supposedly had a nasty fall, really she had been shot by a Navy SEAL who was assigned to be her body guard while on a trip to Iran.

Interested by this, I did a Google search to see if anyone else had reported this bit of information. And guess what? Yep... Sorcha Faal.


Clinton Injured, US Navy Seal Killed In Secret US Mission To Iran
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A new Foreign Military Intelligence (GRU) report circulating in the Kremlin today is saying that United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton [photo 2nd left] was injured, and a top US Navy Seal Commander killed when their C-12 Huron military passenger and transport aircraft crash landed nearly 3 weeks ago in the Iranian city of Ahvaz near the Iraqi border.

Iranian intelligence agents quoted in this GRU report confirm that the C-12 Huron aircraft is still in their possession in Ahvaz, but will only admit that the plane was “forced to land because of technical problems.”

The US Navy Seal member reported killed in this bizarre incident, this report says, was indentified as Commander Job W. Price [photo 3rd left] who as a leader of this highly specialized American Special Forces unit protects high-ranking diplomats traveling in Middle Eastern and Asian combat zones.

Curiously, US media reports on Commander Price’s death say it being investigated as a possible suicide as he died from what the American Defense Department describes as “a non-combat related injury.”

Equally as curious, US media reports state that Secretary Clinton will return to work next week after her having suffered what they describe as a “nasty bout with stomach flu” and a “concussion” which have kept her missing from public view the past three weeks.

This GRU report, however, states that US military flight logs recorded by Russian air and space forces confirm that Commander Price, and other members of US Navy Seal Team 4, left their base in Urozgan Province, Afghanistan on a flight to US Naval Support Activity Bahrain where they met up with Secretary Clinton and all of them transferred to the C-12 Huron that began a flight path to Baghdad, Iraq.

Within minutes of leaving Bahrain airspace, this report says, the C-12 Huron carrying Secretary Clinton and her US Navy Seal protectors, “without notice,” deviated from their assigned flight path heading, instead, directly towards Iran’s Ahwaz International Airport where, coincidentally, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had previously landed on an “unscheduled” visit.

Important to note, GRU analysts say in this report, was that when the C-12 Huron entered into Iranian airspace neither American nor Iran air force units responded clearly indicating that this secret mission was sanctioned.

Upon the C-12 Huron landing at Ahwaz, however, this report says it encountered “extreme turbulence” causing it to leave the runway where its main landing gear then collapsed causing it to crash.

Within seconds of the C-12 Huron crashing, this report continues, Iranian emergency and security personal responded freeing the victims, including Secretary Clinton who was reportedly unconscious and “bleeding profusely.”

After emergency aid was given, GRU agents stationed in Iran state that another US military flight was dispatched from Bahrain to Ahwaz which evacuated all of those wounded and killed in the crash including Secretary Clinton.

Strangely to note, this report says, is that in the aftermath of this crash, Iran’s main oil company announced today that they were buying the Ahwaz airport with the intention of moving it because, they say, oil was discovered beneath it.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1641.htm


This website may attribute its information to pretty obviously false sources, and have a shady link to a doom-and-gloom "psychic," but I have to admit, this website also posts some very interesting articles....

I really feel as though Simon Parkes genuinely believes what he says, so I wonder if he heard about this from the Sorcha Faal article, or if he had some other source, thereby independently corroborating what "Sorcha Faal" posted.

sigma6
20th October 2014, 19:23
"Sorcha Faal is the name of a specific woman, an “International Researcher and Author,” who grew up in Russia"- I've asked my two Russian co-workers if this name could possibly be Russian and both said "nyet"

it has the feel of an anagram... who's game?


What gets me is that if you look at a counter-intelligence website like AboveTopSecret, then they use all the classic techniques of dividing people by letting the "skeptics" use ad hominem and agitate and distract in that way, and they ridicule good research with sock puppet accounts and promote a lot of garbage that won't raise our awareness much, if any.
John Lear said abovetopsecret is total psyop, but I wouldn't know, since I have never, ever gone there...

stevcolx
17th January 2015, 13:06
I used to be a member of Above Top Secret. I liked the 9/11 and False Flag op threads. I put some info in a Sandy Hook thread about the use of Crisis Actors primarily the CNN reporter Barbera Starr who has been a witness in Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing. Skeptic Overlord aka Bill Irvine dumped the thread into the LOL Ludicrous Online Lies section then banned me. I then rejoined ATS using a different email address and entered a conversation about Hitler's escape to Argentina. Billy Boy banned me again. Since I was a bit cheesed off being banned for saying something close to the truth I then rejoined and everything was going nice and rosey until I quoted the Firemen transcripts of 9/11 talking about the bombs in the towers and was subsequently banned for that. So I contacted them by email to complain.

"I was discussing in the 9/11 thread http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1044113/pg22 regarding the possibility of explosives used in the 2 Towers when just after I had finished what I was saying I refreshed the page and got a 404 Error page and I couldn't log back on. So I had a look on the net to see what that meant and I learned it was because I was banned.

Eh? For what? I did not use any bad language or any nasty remarks. I did not insult anyone.

So what did I do that warranted the moderator "Semperfortis" to give me an instant no questions asked BAN??????"

Mark W Allin sent me an email back!

"Your feigned innocence is pretty pathetic. This is the 4th time you've been banned from our site over 9/11 trolling."

9/11 trolling? Posting the truth? Since how is that trolling?!

I wrote a polite answer back but did not get a return message. Above Top Secret is not a Truther forum. That much is plainly obvious.

What they say about ATS in insanemedia is absolutely correct!

http://www.insanemedia.net/ats-exposed-above-top-secret-censors-sandy-hook-cointelpro/442

I kept wondering why I got banned. I was never nasty to anyone or said anything too controversial.

Truth Hurts!!

Bill Ryan
17th January 2015, 13:45
Thoughts?

Easy. :)

Please disregard the site totally. If it's not all 100% invented, it's pretty close.




I used to be a member of Above Top Secret.

I kept wondering why I got banned. I was never nasty to anyone or said anything too controversial.

Truth Hurts!!

Yes, it does! I'm banned from ATS as well. They are very heavily intel-controlled and monitored.

Carmody
17th January 2015, 14:30
This is why intelligent people don't read things like 'popular mechanics' or allow themselves to be connected (contractually!!) to Facebook.

Omni
17th January 2015, 15:44
I'm not banned from ATS but almost every thread I post there gets deleted as if producing your own content is somehow unacceptable. I have to post it wording my OP extremely carefully, so as not to decive but not to show its my video. I gave up. lol too much work(even though one video of mine got like 300 views in a few days there).... It's a shame so many people are there... I wonder if they buff those numbers with mind control. You'd think perhaps at least the Icke forum would apply to some of those people, perhaps Avalon too for a select few..

A Voice from the Mountains
17th January 2015, 18:42
Steve, sounds like you made old Septic displeased.

Like the site you linked to points out, they tolerate no serious discussion of Sandy Hook apparently. When I posted there it was almost exclusively about 9/11 and chemtrails and I was hounded by what were obviously paid disinformants the whole time. I met a few really sharp people there, a government chemist and a world-traveling IT guy and some others, and they all knew it was happening too. From the outside it's not so obvious but when you manage to rack up thousands of posts there before you get the ban-hammer (or the invisible ban hammer in my case), it becomes very obvious what is happening.

Mutchie
18th January 2015, 18:28
I was a lurker on ATS for a while but the site was not my cup of tea ... I noted that Bill amongst many other GOOD researchers have all been Banned from ATS so are they trying to control the flow of information which reaches their members ?

A Voice from the Mountains
18th January 2015, 18:55
There is another thread right now about how TOR is a honeypot that was originally funded by the Navy. You think you're getting nearly impenetrable security to say or do whatever you want on the Internet, when in reality you're using the US Navy's own software. :P

ATS is similar. You think you're joining the biggest conspiracy theory forum on the Internet where you'll meet lots of informed people and have lots of informative discussions. But it's just another honeypot, and you're still using the government's own software. And they will absolutely crush any meaningful discussion and try to talk down to and dishearten any legitimate researchers.

stevcolx
20th January 2015, 08:42
Yeah I have noticed there are a lot of shills in that forum. Especially in the 9/11 threads. One of them Lexygot keeps repeating what Bill Irvine (Skeptic Overlord) says about Truthers. Apparently he thinks of them as Activists and should be treated as such. Now since ATS is supposed to be about Truth and Conspiracy then why the hell is he saying that? Is Billy Boy CIA along with Sorcha Faal? Another CIA Shill and Disinfo agent perhaps? Sounds like it to me. For a while there Mark Allin IP banned me, but now I can lurk and see what they are blabbing again. To hell with ATS CIA Disinfo forum. I'll stick with Avalon!

Bill Ryan
20th January 2015, 12:38
Yeah I have noticed there are a lot of shills in that forum. Especially in the 9/11 threads. One of them Lexygot keeps repeating what Bill Irvine (Skeptic Overlord) says about Truthers. Apparently he thinks of them as Activists and should be treated as such. Now since ATS is supposed to be about Truth and Conspiracy then why the hell is he saying that? Is Billy Boy CIA along with Sorcha Faal? Another CIA Shill and Disinfo agent perhaps? Sounds like it to me. For a while there Mark Allin IP banned me, but now I can lurk and see what they are blabbing again. To hell with ATS CIA Disinfo forum. I'll stick with Avalon!


Mark Allin is married to Melissa Allin (ATS username Valhall). She works for Halliburton.

Wayne Jaeschke (ATS username Centrist) was ATS's attorney. He attempted a major deception back in the days of the Serpo affair in 2006, pretending he was the original anonymous source, and wrote a number of times to Victor Martinez as an impersonation. Yours Truly helped uncover all that, and as a result Jaeschke lost his job with his prestigious east coast law firm, Morrison & Foerster (http://mofo.com) ('MoFo') for unethical conduct as a lawyer.

stevcolx
20th January 2015, 15:14
Are you sure Melissa Allin works for Halliburton? She is not in the Halliburton Global contacts list. I work for Halliburton and I did a search. Don't hold that against me though. I'm just an engineer in North Africa.

Only person close to that name is Melissa Allen from the Texas base!

Bill Ryan
20th January 2015, 16:23
Are you sure Melissa Allin works for Halliburton? She is not in the Halliburton Global contacts list. I work for Halliburton and I did a search. Don't hold that against me though. I'm just an engineer in North Africa.



Apologies... she used to work for Halliburton (2000-2012):

http://linkedin.com/pub/melissa-allin-p-e/88/202/5a4

stevcolx
20th January 2015, 16:49
Ah ok. She worked for Halliburton for quite a while I see.

Only reason I'm with Halliburton is the company was taken over by them. They're a pain to work for but in my line of work there are very few companies out there that specialize nowadays especially with companies like Halliburton taking them over.

Beggars can't be choosers these days!

A Voice from the Mountains
20th January 2015, 18:50
Yeah I have noticed there are a lot of shills in that forum. Especially in the 9/11 threads. One of them Lexygot keeps repeating what Bill Irvine (Skeptic Overlord) says about Truthers.

Septic has multiple accounts. In the early days of ATS he was called out for doing it by a moderator who noticed identical IP addresses (talk about a stupid mistake) and was coy about it, but if he hadn't been called on it he probably would have put on like it was a completely different person. I'm sure Septic is not the only person on ATS that does this.


And Val was an engineer for Halliburton, and from what I understand she worked at either their main headquarters or else one of their other offices. It would be interesting to know if she met her husband because of some connection to her job. Maybe he had been working as Dick Cheney's "altar boy"? :P

Though, to give her credit, in the discussions we had with Val on ATS she was initially hostile to 9/11 conspiracy theorists, but after reading the FEMA and NIST reports, she actually became skeptical of the government's story and also started calling for action to be taken, and she was very serious about it, even contacting some agencies if I remember correctly, complaining of gross incompetence. However, not long after that she suddenly stopped posting on 9/11 topics and that was the end of that. Orders came down from hubby I guess....