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Second Son

29th October 2010, 20:56

Angels and Demons (the real deal)

I read a thread recently along this same vein, but thought I would start anew, because I (hopefully) bring some fresh insight and perspective to the subject.

I will start out by saying (very generally) that I have had a bit of exposure to more than one of the tall blonde/nordic genotype. One might call them the angelic archetype because of their resemblance to the renaissance art one can find in places like the Sistine Chapel, etc. They all have blonde hair, blue eyes, and are unusually tall, standing well over six feet. I will also state early on in this thread, that they are not inherently good, in fact I have found exactly the opposite to be true. The ones I have run into seem to be sexually degenerate, and sociopathic, lacking what we might term a “moral compass”. Without getting too graphic here, let me say also that their preferred method of sex produces a reverse kundalini effect. This is not the only type of psychic vampirism they engage in, but it is one they are partial to.

As most of you know, the word angel is derived from the Greek word “angelos”, meaning herald or messenger. Angels were the emissaries of God, and were responsible for making His word manifest on earth. Why an all powerful, all knowing God needed emissaries to get His word out in the first place is not known, but how would one know that the message was one sanctioned by God, and that the messenger was legit? Well, if we look at the world’s indigenous aboriginal peoples, we see that ALL of them have dark skin/hair/eyes… all of them without exception. This new nordic genotype was certainly not of this earth. So in the middle east, where the inhabitants were of mediterranean, arab, or african decent, these blonde messengers (who, because of their appearance, were sometimes called the Shining Ones) were not questioned. If one reads the biblical description of the martial feats performed by these “captain(s) of the hosts of the Lord”, it is easy to postulate that these “God” given edicts were carried out to the letter, because these so called angelic beings had the prowess to insure that they were obeyed without question.

It is important to understand that the preceding paragraph recalls the early days of their reign on the planet, and it is equally important to note that all of our extant megalithic structures are much older than we are told by conventional sources, and that civilizations which were MUCH MORE advanced pre-dated THEM. In other words, the epoch of the invasion of the “heavenly host” is many tens of thousands of years ago. Obviously today an alien “Nordic” would be undetectable in a crowd of scandinavians. Hence we get this biblical quote: “ Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.” It is my sincere hope in writing this that we don’t get fooled into thinking that all channeled material or first hand information gleaned from this specific alien archetype is true. They have been our “governors” since before time began, and we MUST NOT succumb to their lies.

To be continued...

Rocky_Shorz

29th October 2010, 21:45

LOL...

Sounds like you met a Bipolar amazon woman...

most earth angels don't know who/what they are, and are drawn to "low lifes" inside they are programmed to help, but human nature drags them into depression. They are treated by doctors that don't have a clue pumping them with antidepressants. The Serotonin release valve in their brains gets injured by the psych drugs which works as a filter to their minds so they aren't overwhelmed. When they stop producing the serotonin, they have become completely dependent of what is produced by man artificially. It may take away part of the depression, but it doesn't help repair the psychic filter, you will notice on a New Moon they become explosive bi-polars.

Imagine being a waitress with 1000 customers screaming orders at the same moment...

1000 people scratching their fingernails across a blackboard...

a man looking at his wife going through the worst PMS he has ever experienced, furry palms howling at the moon... Multiply that times 1000 ---

That is what these earth angels are going through...

It is my sincere hope in writing this that we don’t get fooled into thinking that all channeled material or first hand information gleaned from this specific alien archetype is true.

I know we haven't spoke before, but I am a psychic/medium...

I myself don't believe any of the "channeled" messages...

Gov mind ops explain all of them...

I have stood on the ship observing the "futures" and yes they look Nordic...

If they landed, stepped off the ship and spoke...

I would listen and believe 100%

Second Son

29th October 2010, 22:16

"Even if an angel comes from heaven and preaches to you something surpassing what we have preached before you, may he be anathema!" (73.18). The aforementioned is a quote from the Nag Hamadi Codex warning about the disinformation/deceit of angels. As a group who were themselves persecuted as heretics, the Gnostics certainly did not throw the word “anathema” around lightly.
A study of angels tells us that they (the sons of God) took a liking to the daughters of man. Here is an exact quote:

Genesis 6:4 (Original KJV):
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and
they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which
were of old, men of renown.

So what we have is a previously unknown, alien genotype, both taller and fairer than indigenous man, who are in biblical times indiscernible from native humanity, and capable of mating with terrestrial women. The resulting offspring are of enormous stature, and are referred to as “giants, Nephilim, Watchers, Titans”, etc.

Earlier I wrote that no one has been able to establish why an omnipotent god needed a legion in the first place to help with his agenda. I would put forth that the megalomaniacal “God” of the Judeo/Christian religions, Yahweh is none other than the equally psychotic Archon, Yaldaboath (leaning heavily on John Lash’s work). This being the case, he would need minions to help with his agenda. Interestingly enough, as a jealous and wrathful demi-urge, he soon decided that his legions were getting too powerful and autonomous, and decided to create yet another helper archetype, or “chosen people” Apparently, as time changed, it was decided that monetary might was the weapon of the future, with it one could develop weapons and contract armies which could destroy even the giants.

The chosen ones were sent forth by their new “God” to search for the remaining strains of the giants. The Hebrew spies reported that they had seen fearsome giants in Canaan:

Numbers 13:32-33
32. And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, "The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size.
33. We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."

Because I know that ALL history has been perverted by its chroniclers, even the small shreds of it found in the bible, I believe that the Pharisees were actually the “good guys”. They had enough indigenous DNA to have a desire for self-realization, and were more compassionate than their overlord, Yahweh or Yaldaboath, so he sent the armies of Israel to destroy all of the Giants.

Wood

29th October 2010, 22:23

My understanding is that the nordic ET type, pleiadians, is just a form of a shape-shifting race of amphibious reptilians. See for example legends regarding the origin of Merlin or even Arthur, or the first merovingian king, and in general legends about shape-shifters.

Extrapolating from that I think the caucasian race contains more reptilian DNA than others (particularly nordic branches), and it is not a coincidence that the world power lies in the hands of the elites of Europe and the USA.

Rocky_Shorz

29th October 2010, 22:23

let me point you to a path that might solve some of your questions...

from his young teens until early 20s, Jesus lived and learned from the Essenes...

They had been around for thousands of Generations appearing in Israel in ~500BC at the same time as Buddha and Daniel and suddenly around 70AD they disappeared...

Pliny relates in a few lines that the Essenes do not marry, possess no money, and had existed for thousands of generations. Unlike Philo, who did not mention any particular geographical location of the Essenes other than the whole land of Israel, Pliny places them in Ein Gedi, next to the Dead Sea.

A little later Josephus gave a detailed account of the Essenes in The Jewish War (c. 75 A.D.) with a shorter description in Antiquities of the Jews (c. 94 A.D.) and The Life of Flavius Josephus (c. 97 A.D.). Claiming first hand knowledge, he lists the Essenoi as one of the three sects of Jewish philosophy[6] alongside the Pharisees and the Sadducees. He relates the same information concerning piety, celibacy, the absence of personal property and of money, the belief in communality and commitment to a strict observance of the Sabbath. He further adds that the Essenes ritually immersed in water every morning, ate together after prayer, devoted themselves to charity and benevolence, forbade the expression of anger, studied the books of the elders, preserved secrets, and were very mindful of the names of the angels kept in their sacred writings.

Pliny, also a geographer and explorer, located them in the desert near the northwestern shore of the Dead Sea, where the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in the year 1947 by Muhammed edh-Dhib and Ahmed Mohammed, two Bedouin shepherds of the Ta'amireh tribe.[7]

Wiki link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes)

Second Son

29th October 2010, 22:29

"My understanding is that the nordic ET type, pleiadians, is just a form of a shape-shifting race of amphibious reptilians. See for example legends regarding the origin of Merlin or even Arthur, or the first merovingian king, and in general legends about shape-shifters.

Extrapolating from that I think the caucasian race contains more reptilian DNA than others (particularly nordic branches), and it is not a coincidence that the world power lies in the hands of the elites of Europe and the USA."

Well put Wood. I believe as you do that they have always been the overseers here. The "divine right of kings" and all that rubbish.

Second Son

29th October 2010, 22:41

Rocky_Shorz

29th October 2010, 22:52

I'm curious why you picked your Nick?

Rocky_Shorz

29th October 2010, 22:57

Organized religion has taught everyone one basic rule...

you can't get to heaven without them...

How many angels do you think it would take to watch 7 Billion people?

truthseekerdan

29th October 2010, 23:59

There is no 'real deal', it's just an illusion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnCx5UDdtSg

Rocky_Shorz

30th October 2010, 00:48

have you ever delivered a message for the source and 3 days later to the second - half a million people died?

5 messages over 1 million deaths...

ever had a voice in your head tell you that they know the future...? So I asked for the Lotto numbers for the next day drawing...

2 numbers...

both were right...

ever touched a young girl in a wheel chair and watch her stand and walk over to hug her mother?

all this was to convince no one but me...

it is real...

very very real...

NoTingles

30th October 2010, 01:21

msg. deleted

Second Son

30th October 2010, 01:34

Sorry Dan, but we will have to agree to disagree. In this current plane, which I refer to as "reality" we find ourselfs entrenched in duality. The fact is that right here, right now, we have children who are tortured and ritually murdered. We have religious leaders accused of molestation. We have megalomanical political leaders who kill millions of innocents, etc. I could go on, but I hope you get the picture.

The bottom line is this: perhaps in the future after many more life times, or perhaps a quantum spiritual leap, we will be in that place of unity you speak of, but for now we are here, and what I am seeing tells me that major political, geological, even exo-political upheavals are in the making, and you can sit in the lotus position until it happens. I will be putting some food by and trying to cultivate a garden and community ;)

EVERY organized religion... yes even everyones' pet Buddhism. The worlds chief proponent of volunteer suffering. Motto: Sit tight, don't do much except contemplate, get used to pain, because it is mankinds' fate. I think I rather be a fundamentalist Muslim, at least then I could get the virgins. Peace

Rocky_Shorz

30th October 2010, 17:56

EVERY organized religion... yes even everyones' pet Buddhism. The worlds chief proponent of volunteer suffering. Motto: Sit tight, don't do much except contemplate, get used to pain, because it is mankinds' fate.

maybe that is why Confucianism followed Budha...

so what if outsiders stepped into our world and turned it into an enormous socialist society?

Everyone working towards a common goal...

I brought up the Essene for a reason...

We proved a capitalist world doesn't work...

a few with all the money soo blinded by greed, they don't see the children starving...

TigaHawk

30th October 2010, 21:54

oh they see the children starving Rocky, they class that as entertainment. heh.

Second Son

30th October 2010, 22:05

Celine

30th October 2010, 22:10

Too many..

enough is enough.

truthseekerdan

30th October 2010, 22:20

The Essenes were a monastic order who practiced strict observation of Jewish laws. They were of an apocolyptic creed, and led a celibate life. This Abrahamic religion, being closly related to and responsible for the advent of Christianity. Let's see, where have we seen celibate religious figures in the media lately? Oh yeah, they are the ones responsible for the untold number of child molestations, and these are just the ones we know about. Before you claim that any monastic religious order are above depradation, and represent a utopian ideal, you should look at the facts on the ground. How many children are sacrificed each year to the Judeo/Christian bloodthirsty demonic demi-urge, Yahweh?

If you care to find out about the real story surrounding the Essenes, I suggest you read the book Jesus and the Essenes (http://books.google.com/books?id=ouQG_K9UOHkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=jesus+and+the+essenes&source=bl&ots=EhOMdUkHlq&sig=TZL6FvgU5sE3o-YGcP-eqTMFDn8&hl=en&ei=q5jMTOvLDsL6lweW4uDlCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false) by Dolores Cannon.

Also this site is pretty good as a start: http://www.essenespirit.com/who.html

Blessings, :love:

Dan

Beren

30th October 2010, 22:29

You know, human mind is one awesome thing! It`s capable of maaaany things that we are not aware of yet.
But also it`s easily manipulated.
It can twist all things to suit its needs or current understandings. And in the light of that fact it can be understood why 99% of the people never understood the Bible or all associated texts throughout history.

But for the sake of fairness here never ever has Yahweh demanded child sacrifices and I don`t have a clue where you found this misconception .
The deity that demanded such abominations was actually Moloch...and possibly Baal and Astarte or Ishtar...

But yeah , go along with the flow and soon we will wake up with the information that Jesus Christ was actually a pedophile because he liked children and yes, also he married Mary Magdalene ,had kids, moved to France , then to England , founded templars and shared his royal blood to today`s masons...
Not to forget that early Christians were actually bloodthirsty cannibals who ate Roman children and thus were captivated and thrown into Colosseum for elite`s sports & fun days...

Least of all - everybody that today read Bible & has moral views that are different than "modern" ways of thinking are actually threat to society and are an abomination upon face of the earth...

Give me a break with all this... And before you continue with painting of darkness with white color think for a minute of what do you write here.
As Bill stated recently about BS hitting the Avalon , I can feel it here and now with this thread.

P.S.

Please pardon me if I offended anyone,it is not my intention. But who ever knows me all this time on Avalon will understand why I wrote this now and here.

Wood

30th October 2010, 23:06

Let's see, where have we seen celibate religious figures in the media lately? Oh yeah, they are the ones responsible for the untold number of child molestations, and these are just the ones we know about.
Child molesters are not celibate, be them priests, monks, politicians or anything else, using the definition that is relevant IMO: 'observing or pertaining to sexual abstention or a religious vow not to marry'.
The key idea is that the energy coming from the sacral chakra can be either used just for sex (and the PTBs want us to do that) or for magic. See sexual magic practised by Crowley and rituals by other occult groups, tantric sex, the idea, present in many religions all over the world, of detaching from the mundane as a way to attain freedom, Kundalini awakening, etc.
I am quite sure our bodies slowly age and rot away to death because of the abuse of the mundane, and it is not a coincidence that we are being fed it through the mass media since birth, nowadays.

truthseekerdan

30th October 2010, 23:47

What or who is God? The answer lies within yourself. YOU create and manifest the reality you perceive as external around you, and you are responsible for what is happening in your universe.

Every thought, emotion, fear, lust and so on that you have will in turn affect the Universe - The Universe is Mental, and it was created and still is being created by the "Word" - the Thought / Mind. Everything exists within The All - God - You. Do not search for God somewhere outside yourself, look within yourself to find Heaven and freedom.

Everything External is a result of what you have Internal - in your Mind.

So what does this mean, and what am I trying to show you here?

Let me give you another example: Within your body exists huge amounts of cells, atoms, dna etc that makes up your being. And as most people know, with just one sample of microscopic dna you have a blueprint of yourself. Within the DNA exist your whole being, and thus it is possible to make a clone, a direct replica, of yourself from this DNA. This too can go on for infinity, by cloning the clone and so on, as the DNA will always be a direct copy of the original source DNA.

All over nature, and the universe, you find this pattern of infinity within a set finite system, whether it is the geometrical patterns of a snowflake, a seashell, or galaxies of the universe.

The endless and boundless exists within that which has an end and bound, thus both infinity and finity is co-existing and depending on eachother.

So we have then shown that endless creations can fit into a construct of set limits. Creation can continue growing for all eternity without ever exceeding the set boundaries of Existence - and here comes my point, think of the circle mentioned above as God, and the hexagrams within and Creation.

Everything exists within the Mind of the All, that which is God, and within God endless amounts of creations are possible, and the very fingerprint of how God functions is here all around us, within us, and indeed we ARE God and the Creators of the Universe.

Just as the First Cause in the examples above was the Circle, and everything within the circle could only exist because of the circle and thus is a part of the circle, so is God the First Cause of Existence, and everything that is must thus be of God, and in turn connected to the Godly Powers, and through the replication process just shown we all have God himself Within Ourselves. This understanding makes us omnipotent, able to do whatever we dream of, and create ourselves the very exact Universe we want.

We just have to become aware of God within us, and realize that we in fact create everything we perceive around us, whether we are aware of it or not. When we become aware of how creation functions, and that it originates from ourselves, we can be in control of that which happens in our own Universe.

Everything is subjective because we create all ourselves, and your Universe is not the same as anyone elses Universe, and what you perceive is not perceived the same way by anyone else existing within your Universe.

Confront and understand your Enemy, and you will confront and understand yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZsyvQfL5l4&p

Second Son

31st October 2010, 00:28

Responses to this thread (with all due respect) have ranged from a tired blind allegiance to some external paternal diety, or new agey BS about oneness and personal responsibity. Both the new age movement and organized religion have long since been co-opted to help maintain the current fascist status quo. I can take this stuff in small doses. So before I go puke from all the bittersweet irony here, I will send off this quick post.

To anyone, anywhere who has ever thought that there is a modicum of truth or relevence in the male dominated, corrupt, despicable, pedophilic, satanic, blood-cults, which have been cleverly disquised as our only path to salavtion... namely Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc. please do some real research. You are the unknowing victims of memes which you do not know are coloring your judgement and clouding your mind, (which I might add is EXACTLY what the founders of these dogmas intended).

For those of you burning insense and meditating under your dimestore prayer flags, who think you will be able to chant your way out of the changes which come... good luck with that. I suppose that the hundreds of thousands of children who have either been kidnapped or born in captivity, only to die during a rite held under the Vatican. I suggest dan, that you tell them they have created their own reality. That this hell on earth that the newborn baby experiences when sacrificed by these demonically posessed guys in their splendid robes... you tell those children (and what the hell, send out a letter to their moms as well) that they are little deities in their own right and they are responsible for their own fate.

With the religionists (who sometimes don't even know they are) and the new agey folks, the result is still the same. Ironic, no?

Celine

31st October 2010, 00:45

do you think you are alone, in these thoughts?

Second Son

31st October 2010, 00:47

I hope not Celine.

Celine

31st October 2010, 00:51

You present very well researched thought processes , yet I find the tinge of anger you express to be a bit of a distraction.

I am Creator.

Does not mean I am responsible for everything that happens to me.

The lab rats are waking up... give us the chance to learn.

truthseekerdan

31st October 2010, 00:51

With the religionists (who sometimes don't even know they are) and the new agey folks, the result is still the same. Ironic, no?

My friend, you can only change yourself, and the world will take care of itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RQmnSJoRg

Second Son

31st October 2010, 01:07

Celine... there is no real anger, frustration maybe, oh yeah and passion. One hallmark of today's society is that those who verbalize strong opinions are marginalized. Funny this doesn't just happen in the mainstream media either (where it is a tool of the PTB), but in the larger world as well, even in the alternative culture. I appreciate your kudos and concerns, Celine.

I guess what I am trying to get at is the common result of both religious and new age movements is inaction. "We (collectively) made our bed and now we must lie in it", at least until the redeemer god comes back and saves us (us of course meaning US and NOT you) No, everybody else gets to burn in hell for all eternity. I have a "born again" in the family, and she would not care if our worst nightmares came true, because this will only confirm her decision to join the Armageddon club that is Christianity.

Right or wrong, loud or quiet, I will always have the heart to stand up and at least make myself heard. Thanks to all who keep this forum up and running.

Celine

31st October 2010, 01:11

I truly enjoy this thread SC.

I find your perspective and the research you present to be sound.

And.. I belive that many know these truths as well.

Passion is something I can respect in this context.

These are tumultuous times ...and truth is being bastardized

Like my signature says... it is together that we can accomplish change.

Getting out of the lab, is the first step.

Second Son

31st October 2010, 01:21

AMEN SISTER!

Right, wrong or indifferent... what now? I am sure that the answer lies within (or at least within an arms length) otherwise we couldn't access it. I am nothing if not passionate, which is why I read everything from Arthurian legend to David Icke. I suppose it's not even about having answers, because being able to frame the question in the first place is chathartic in itself... just knowing that there are many societal construct just BEGGING to be questioned is empowering. I think if any of us tried to change the current paradigm for one of our own choosing, eventually that too would be corrupted... it's just what we do.

Celine

31st October 2010, 01:24

Its what we do.. now.

Because thats who they want us to be... but it is NOT who we are.

I can feel it changing to...

Second Son

31st October 2010, 01:33

I feel a change too. As people are searching for truths, the PTB controlled media, then starts controled disclosure to give the illusion that we have the whole picture. So I see the hunger for knowledge, and the resulting revelations, and sense movement, but I am still not sure in what direction. Hopefully not around in circles, which is where some of these rabbit holes lead.

Celine

31st October 2010, 01:35

Ahh the rabbit hole.

Great analogy.

Once you have truth...what do you do with it?

truthseekerdan

31st October 2010, 02:02

Dear Celine and everyone reading this thread, I don't know how you perceive David Icke however, he's got an excellent documentary called "Beyond the Cutting Edge" made in 2008 that I personally recommend, enjoyed and resonate with.
We have to allow ourselves to go beyond 'good and evil' (angels & demons) which are just realities of our ego-mind (dualistic brains), and try to live from within our hearts. Below is a sample I chose from the speech which is about 7 hours long.
You can also download a DVD quality copy from a torrent site like this: http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4444540/David_Icke_Beyond_the_cutting_edge.4444540.TPB.tor rent

David Icke: The 2008 Brixton Academy DVD

Nearly seven hours of extraordinary dot-connecting. This is truly beyond the cutting edge ...

Product Information:

Since his extraordinary awakening in 1990 and 1991, David Icke has been on a journey across the world, and within himself, to find the Big answers to the Big questions: Who are we? Where are we? What are we doing here? Who really controls this world and how and why?

In this seven-hour presentation to 2,500 people at the Brixton Academy in London, David addresses all these questions and connects the dots between them to reveal a picture of life on earth that is truly beyond the cutting edge.

Nowhere in the world will you see a presentation like this one, which connects the apparently unconnected to form the tapestry of knowledge that can set us free from our collective enslavement by the hidden powers behind government, banking, business, media and all the other agencies of manipulation and control.

What is the connection between ancient history, 9/11, the war on terror, the gathering Orwellian nightmare and the nature of reality itself? It seems a strange question to most people, but in fact all are fundamentally linked, as Icke so compellingly reveals.

As he says: Without understanding the nature of our experienced reality and how we create it, we cannot truly understand anything else.

Tens of millions around the world have become aware of David Icke and his work as what he has written in a stream of books has become our daily experience.

Now, go with him to the next stage of his incredible journey, a journey Beyond the Cutting Edge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JKKwJUEnvU

Second Son

31st October 2010, 02:37

Thanks dan... I'm a big fan of David, but haven't yet seen this presentation.

truthseekerdan

31st October 2010, 04:53

Thanks dan... I'm a big fan of David, but haven't yet seen this presentation.

Well, I hope you'll like it... Enjoy :thumb:

P.S. I'm also seeding...

Rocky_Shorz

31st October 2010, 22:28

Second Son,

I normally don't respond to anyone throwing out generalizations of hatred... But I guess you deserve one...

my daughter's best friend was kidnapped and murdered by a pedovile... a Jewish Engineer... Pedophilia is not curable so I guess all engineers are devil worshipping child killers and should be put down to save our world...

There are 2.5 Billion Christians... 370,425 Catholic Priests - less than 50 accused of Pedophilia...

being behind the Dark agenda moving the world towards Armageddon while fulfilling biblical prophecy is a reason to be angry at the handful of those making it happen...

but I can't hate all Britons and Catholics because of a few...

now is the real question....

You named this thread angels and demons (the real deal)

are you interested in hearing of the angels that helped in solving over 150 missing children cases?

How about Abaddon and his minion of demons in an multidimensional battle at the doorstep of the Hall of Kings?

Wood

31st October 2010, 22:40

I'd like to hear about that rocky_shorz, and I am quite sure many others would too.

Rocky_Shorz

31st October 2010, 23:08

most people that are "gifted" went through an event that knocks a person down to their knees...

This was mine...

I wanted to know what happened to my daughter's friend, so I prayed before going to sleep, it had been 20 years since I last folded my hands, it was a major turning point in my life... I was shown an image of her lying in the dirt and saw lakes and trees, the info was passed to the searchers and she was found the following day.

I stirred emotions around the world, tugging on people's heart strings to push them into action, within a month, the amber alert started and the National Database of sexual offenders was created.

kids were being kidnapped almost daily and I found I was able to look into the suspects head to find what happened to a child, when there was no suspect, I could look into a photo of a child and through the eyes open up to their spirit...

One day, the pain grew to great and I broke, went to bed closed my eyes with tears streaming down my cheeks and said that's it, I quit...

I don't remember how long I laid there, but I felt a soft touch on my shoulder and opened my eyes...

I looked up and bent over me was an angel wings folded behind her, she smiled at me and nodded I glanced over and saw the spirits of all the little kids I had helped in solving their case... I smiled seeing they all had little wings

my daughter's friend said "we're here to help, please don't give up..."

The pain and hurt was gone...

I climbed back up went and sat down at the computer and continued the fight to make our world safer for children...

soo much more to tell... but I need to continue it later...

Second Son

1st November 2010, 01:28

Thanks for the special attention, Rocky, you sound like a person who was raised as a good christian. Isn't it wonderful the power of the human mind? The phsycic protection which it can generate at times of extreme mental stress is absolutley phenomenal. Keep up the good work. Myself, if I ever ran into a benevolent angel face to face, I'd ask her where the hell she was when the kids were getting abducted, raped, and murdered. But alas, I fear I will never have such a meeting. Peace.

Anchor

1st November 2010, 12:20

OMG!!! Won't SOMEONE please think of the children - lol!

The emotive language betrays a fear. The fear clouds and focusses the mind into the cage, shrouding the creator heart from expression.

Those afflicted in this way, are just where "they" want them. Any device, words, any tools of emotive language, any forms of loaded question, tricky language - wired with the traps of judgement, sensationalist media, anything like this and more that can be dreamed up to provoke and communicate fear, or the reaction of a victim will do just fine to keep that going.

At our density of expression creation is an act of the heart, but the trapped ones are being kept in the mind - unable to create or see that they can even create - to write the script of the great play. Some are learning to let go. To step back. To step back in silence so far away from the viewpoint here on Earth that on looking back they see a perspective so changed from that which once imprisoned them. You need to go far back, so far back that you are in a place of love, the source of all, where the truth really is.

What do you make of this love?

Can you not see the love in the moment? Can you even start to?

With what sense organ is love perceived?

With what organ is distortion, anger and hate emotion perceived?

The One

1st November 2010, 12:50

The Continuing Search For The Truth Re Angels and Demons

If the Truth is so simple, why does the United States Court System have people swear the following oath before they testify: "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?" It is a wonderful oath, covering everything within reason and logic, and knowledge. It however does not cover the things that we neither know nor understand.

I can not tell you the truth about the history of Angels, because I know very little about it. I can not tell you the truth about the chemical process that turns . . . well, about just any chemical process, because I know very little about that stuff.

I could tell you all I know about these things, I could tell you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about what I know of the history of Angels, and I would not tell you much at all. It would be a speech of little value to you. The point is that I can only tell you my perception of the truth, my knowledge of the truth, or what I believe that I understand of the truth. I can also be honest and tell you that there are times when I know very little

So, what is the Truth about God Angels and Heaven and After-life? After what I have said so far, how can I offer to answer that question? By analogy, of course! Besides, I have pursued the answers to those questions for many, many years.

Let me give you a short analogy, that makes a similar point: You may remember from your geometry class that if you add the measurement of the three angles in a triangle, the total is ALWAYS 180 degrees. If you didn't have that great training, or have forgotten it, then trust me when I say that this little hypothesis about the 'sum of the angles of a triangle' is key to much of geometry. It is basic, it is foundational and I can prove it . . . incomplete.

How? First let's remember a LIMITATION of geometry and triangles drawn on paper: Everything drawn on paper is two-dimensional, but life is NOT. If you were to take a globe of this wonderful planet, and draw a triangle on it, you will RARELY get 180 degrees as the total! For example, if you draw a triangle from the North Pole to the Equator, covering one fourth of the Northern Hemisphere, your triangle would have three ninety degree angles, totaling 270 degrees!

So what is taken as absolute truth in a two-dimensional world, is found to not be true in a three-dimensional world!
Since it is easy to forget that life on earth has a spiritual dimension to it as well, we forget that 'logical' truths do not hold up in reality! That's why so many economic and political theories collapse: on paper, they look great. But when applied to a nation or society full of less-than-perfect human beings, all of whom are unique, with unique talents and gifts and goals, it just doesn't add up anymore!

There are times I confess, that I ask "What difference does it make to know these historical facts?" After all, they happened so long ago, and in today's world they are seemingly unimportant. Then I remember that one of the claims of Christianity is that it is not based on a philosophy, but based on a historical life of an individual who fulfilled prophecies made long before He walked the earth. Historical facts is what apologists for the faith refer to again and again.

When we have the historical facts wrong, we mislead people inside the Church and those outside that are seeking God. Not only that, but we have been told that we "... shall know the truth, and the truth shall set us free." Sometimes, we don't need to know what we shall be freed from, but we still need the freedom! It is important to get these facts right!

truthseekerdan

1st November 2010, 14:30

When we have the historical facts wrong, we mislead people inside the Church and those outside that are seeking God. Not only that, but we have been told that we "... shall know the truth, and the truth shall set us free." Sometimes, we don't need to know what we shall be freed from, but we still need the freedom! It is important to get these facts right!

From ignorance -- once 'you know', 'they' can't control you (game over)...

Rocky_Shorz

1st November 2010, 19:29

all religions are built from the same basic goal...

a social gathering of like minded people who sit through a lesson through sermon each week just to hear a few simple words at the end...

"Peace be with you"

6.5 Billion people on this planet all hoping for a future on this world and in the afterlife of peace...

now to continue from where I left off...

one thing I have learned over the years is the more you use your gifts the more proficient you become...

I started looking in the suspects heads for just a glimpse of what happened, and with that image came understanding...

in a few, I felt a dark coldness... pulling back with a skin crawling shiver not understanding what I had touched...

at a point I realized I had a very special spirit guide that helped me in learning my abilities and she could lead me through dreams to answers I needed...

I had always understood angels and spirits are not the same, so in one of the dreams I asked how the children had become angels and she smiled and said "people don't become angels" they are born that way...

Then I asked the tough question... so why didn't God protect the angels?

she said, "someday you will understand, they are here to protect the children around them..."

suddenly my dream changed and we were standing on a hill looking down over paradise, fruit trees, lakes, rivers, ocean, huge fields of colorful flowers...

she pointed and I saw my daughter's friend riding on a dolphin, she looked over and waved...

I asked if I was in heaven and she answered "no" and pointed off at the distance and I squinted trying to see what was behind the brightness...

she said "this is Nirvana, everyone has the choice of whether they would like to be reborn on earth or join heaven, most wait until their families join them to make the decision. A day here is a year on earth"

I woke from the dream thinking of what she had told me...

did my daughter's friend lose her life protecting my daughter?

The police had found photos of her at the monster's house...

I already knew the answer...

a few weeks later a fresh case came in and they had the suspect from the beginning, a serial Pedovile.

I looked into him, and instantly shivered, this time I found the answer, I wasn't the only one there, cautiously I went quiet and just watched, that's when I felt movement glancing over I saw a being that was radiating darkness, my skin was crawling I felt those trying to pull me back...

without thinking a string of light appeared from my hand and shot forward attaching to its foot. I pulled out feeling the string in my hand and felt my spirit guide put her hand on my shoulder...

the air was almost crackling with tenseness...

I had no idea what I had done, but it had made her very nervous...

then it happened, I could almost feel the scream as I watched the darkness racing towards me, she raised her hand and in a flash of light it disappeared...

my heart was racing when I woke from the dream, what had just happened...

I have read of possession, watched the excorsist...

I started thinking back to the number of suspects that had given me a shiver and realized many of these really could have used "The devil made me do it" as a defense... It wasn't until later I realized most had been Pedoviles for most of their lives and had never harmed a child. They were all at a low point in their lives where they were filled with anger and despair, making them the perfect host for the spirit that stepped into their head and convinced them to act.

I started looking into child rape victims attackers and disturbingly found the same darkness in many...

a child angel who was molested as a child loses their light...

Doctors give them anti depressants which injures them further...

only 1 out of 100 child molestation cases ever get reported...

it becomes hereditary...

if a dad or grandpa does it then it continues down the line of children through generations...

where does it lead?

child brides (http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20961:950000-child-wives-live-in-iran&catid=29:exclusive-reports&Itemid=42)

950,000 child wives live in Iran

Tehran, Jul. 04 - Nearly a million Iranian children - mostly girls - are married due to provisions in Iran's Islamic marriage laws which allow the existence of child wives, according to an official with knowledge of the matter.

"Official sources put the number of child spouses in the country at between 900,000 to 950,000. This violates the international Convention on the Rights of the Child", Mohammad Bonyazadeh, a member of the Cultural Association in Support of Working Children, told the semi-official news agency ILNA on Thursday.

Children as young as 15 can legally go into full-time employment in Iran, Bonyazadeh said.

"On the one hand the law recognises anyone under the age of 11 as a child, who lacks the thinking capacity, wisdom, and decision-making ability to vote in an election, but on the other hand it defines the legal age for marriage as 9 (for girls) and 13 (for boys)", he said, adding that the legal age for voting in Iran is in line with international standards.

"Unfortunately, instead of enjoying their youth, playing sports and getting some education, the country's young girls who are married, are forced to play the role of a wife and accept all its difficult responsibilities, such as running household chores. This dangerous experience forced upon the children at this age has many dire and harmful repercussions on them and even on their children".

NoTingles

2nd November 2010, 01:36

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Rocky_Shorz

2nd November 2010, 19:33

it could have been, or a spirit of your ancestors watching out for you...

the angels watching over me usually don't step in until it is a life and death situation in motion... as in driving off a mountain cliff at 70 MPH and somehow landing back on the road... something you know in your heart was truly a miracle the moment it happened.

for almost a year I had become a hunter of the predators, sitting at my computer and tracking down cases from around the world, once my suspicion was confirmed that my guardian angels would not allow me harm, I went after them with a vengeance... The one day... Children stopped disappearing it was as if we had passed a point and these demons or evil spirits were gone...

was my battle over?

was it time for me to go back to my life of an engineer?

I was still helping out with cases in a few forums and one day a new member joined us...

she posted pictures of a bunch of missing children, I gave her a quick read of what I could tell her about the different cases and she exploded...

SCREAMING at all of us that we were prejudice and never gave time or attention to missing black children...

I usually keep my cool in discussions but she crossed the line and was pouring venom on everyone... I started writing a flaming response and then felt a very strong presence around me and once again the room was sparking with energy... I erased everything and posted the poem written to break the news to my daughter she had lost her best friend...

she went silent for almost 5 minutes and then came back with her anger gone and started talking... That's when it happened... The strongest spirit I had ever encountered came racing at me, its pawn of hatred had been touched in the heart and he was losing his hold...

unlike most spirits that disappear when they touch heaven's light, this one didn't, I blacked out instantly, my head on the keyboard and the guardians with me brought us across to a different dimension, it wasn't Nirvana or The Hall of Kings... but I had been here before in my dreams...

my Guardians appeared beside me and they were bigger than any other of the angels and spirit guides I found out later I had ArchAngels protecting me for this battle...

I had been here before in my dream of the Ram in the Bush...

I stood waiting for the angels to strike down the Giant, but they just stood quietly watching me, a sword appeared in one of there hands and he reached out handing it to me, the blade was shining brilliantly... Suddenly I grew to the size of this abomination... It was utterly gross, imagine painting in hatred a dark energy radiating outward.

in a flash I saw the blade swinging at me and the sword almost moved on it's own blocking the strike...

again and again it attacked until one time when the blade struck its shoulder, I looked around and it was gone...

I shrunk back to normal size and that's when I saw him laying on the ground bleeding from the shoulder, all the dark energy had been absorbed by the sword...

Some day I will fill in the whole Abbadon battle story, but it ended with him diving into the lake of fire...

I woke up with button imprints on my forehead... I had been there a while...

When it all began I depended on dreams for instruction and information, but one day, it changed...

I started having visions while I was awake, not having to go to sleep... I guess I would describe it as a picture in Picture...

I still see everything going on around me but have a subconscious viewing window open...

One of Project Avalon's original members that is gifted and helps many with spiritual growth was under attack by what she called a reptillian...

after she told me about it I explained how I egg the evil spirits into attacking bring us a light bubble around me before impact and she decided to try it...

That evening she concentrated on it as she went to sleep, in her dreams when knew it was there and was trying to think of a way to draw it out. That's when she said I appeared in her dream the beast instantly attacked and disappeared, I looked over, winked at her and disappeared... I have no memory of that dream, is it possible my subconscious is in continuous battles?

But it did remind me back to when I was a teenager, an old Indian walked up to me and thanked me for saving his grandson that was dying... he called me Dream Walker...

I thought he was just a nuts old man...

for me Nirvana is where dreams and heaven meet...

I can go to Nirvana in a moment, speak with one of my friends or ancestors to ask a question and they can get an answer, even from those who have crossed over into heaven or as many of you understand is the source...

Rocky_Shorz

2nd November 2010, 19:42

oh and as for voices, close to the time when I started being able to open a PiP window, one day I was out for a drive...

from behind me there was a voice that said "SLOW DOWN"... I swerved from surprise and looked back finding no one in the car...

I shook my head thinking I was just hearing things and I heard a take a right... without question I did...

driving down through a back road and in my rear-view mirror I saw a large SUV racing up behind me at 60, at the last moment I slowed down blocking both lanes and the car swerved across to the other side of the road to get around me, at that moment I locked my brakes seeing a bicycle tire rolling out in front of the car... a young child swerved out into the road across both lanes before turning back towards the curb.

If I hadn't been here, that child would have been killed...

I have so many stories along the same lines...

since I'm not able to see the spirits, I guess my 3rd eye is still blind, but luckily, my 3rd ears are working... ;)

Rocky_Shorz

2nd November 2010, 19:55

Here is a perfect example of a miracle...

story link (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/02/baby-survives-7-story-fall/?hpt=Sbin)

Baby survives 7-story fall

An 18-month-old girl in Paris, France, appeared unhurt after falling seven stories and bouncing off an awning into a man's arms, witnesses told Le Parisien newspaper.

Witnesses said the child and a sibling had been left alone briefly Monday in their seventh-floor apartment in the city's 20th arrondissement, east of the central city. The girl fell out of a window, but a boy on the street saw her falling and alerted his father, who caught the baby after she bounced off the awning of a tobacco shop and cafe on the building's ground floor, the paper reported.

The man with the quick reflexes and good hands, a doctor, looked over the girl and didn't find any injuries, but handed her off to an ambulance crew to be safe, according to Le Parisien.

This child has his 3rd ears open...

MariaDine

2nd November 2010, 20:07

.............

Rocky_Shorz

2nd November 2010, 20:19

don't worry...

I have a lot of story left to tell but to help you understand what is coming...

my spirit guide... Is the Holy Spirit

let's just say the Trinity isn't exactly what all of us good Christians were taught...

I came to project Camelot for 1 reason... to hear the whispers that would lead me to the next...

I am meant to be part of the final battle, but as I studied and learned what it all meant...

I made up my mind...

There isn't going to be one...

With this Sword I lead a Legion of Angels...

I've sent them all out hunting...

I'm sharing this today, November 2nd - 11/II for a reason...

none of you should be wondering any longer why PTB have suddenly had all of their plans unravel...

Their minions of dark spirits and demons they were depending on...

are gone...

Gog and Magog are no longer being led and powered by Abaddon...

The leader of Iran is now powerless...

He speaks as a man, with no earthshaking being behind him...

Check and Mate... the 6th night is over...

Just to let you know, according to this page (http://2012info.ca/articles/?p=255) (that comments this article (http://www.paulapeterson.com/New_Revelations_Mayan_Calendar.html)) today starts the seventh and last day of the galactic cycle of the mayan calendar. Then, on 2011-10-28, the last cycle will start.

I have been doing some meditation and apparently the energy is great today. I look forward to being 'able to travel anywhere' :)

MariaDine

2nd November 2010, 21:43

I'm not worried. You misinterpreted.
Love
MD

Rocky_Shorz

2nd November 2010, 22:25

well, I do understand more than most, I spent time with a Holy Warrior that cleanses houses that are haunted by evil spirits...

I watched glass and mirrors shatter, pictures fly off walls...

I watched an exorcism of a child that was dying fever over 105...

it only took a few words and a touch and the evil was gone, in minutes her temp dropped back to normal and she was feeling good enough to sit up in bed and hug her mother...

most people don't believe evil spirits really exist, so they have no protection...

most people don't understand how an evil spirit can affect someone's health...

she always worked with crystals and powders...

I jumped into the fire and watched my guardian to understand what needed to be done...

when I realized all it took for an evil spirit/demon to touch heaven's light to be judged and purged, it became quite easy...

Rocky_Shorz

3rd November 2010, 17:37

one night I was dreaming surrounded by darkness, and saw a very good friend of mine appear walking towards a large door that slowly started opening, I walked up behind him putting a hand on his shoulder and said not yet... He turned around and disappeared, but I walked forward towards the door as I saw it starting to close I pushed a large boulder forward in place to prevent it from closing and stepped inside.

I was in an enormous hall with a large bonfire burning in the center for light, a small group of men were walking towards me...

my spirit guide appeared beside me and said you have entered the Hall of Kings, the afterlife of many of the greatest rulers from earth...

The group that approached, recognized my guide as Tara...

We talked for hours, and then the horns blew and everyone started flooding into the hall, an announcement was made that we were leaving...

I turned walking back through the door, my sword appearing in my hand and lighting up the shadows around me, silent guardians slipped by us to search the trail before us...

after what seemed like endless travel, glancing back I could see the winding lights of torches leading up the mountain trail of the millions following behind and heard screams, some people were under attack... a small battle was raging, but it was over as quickly as it came...

a door appeared before us and as we approached I could see letters starting to glow...

the path ended at this point in a large ravine, this door was the only way forward...

on the door, a small symbol which I recognized instantly as the Key of David cross I had been wearing for several years... Taking it from my neck I pressed it against the symbol and the door faded to a shimmer, without a thought I stepped through...

looking around I was standing in a place I had been before in a dream after 9/11...

The Ram in the Bush... and also where I would soon fight Abaddon...

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2010, 18:57

interesting picture from last night at the beach...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=2789&d=1288979018

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2010, 19:21

I talk about being multidimensional and I feel my vibrations level rising...

what is strange is seeing the full image of the light partially shining through...

the circle by my right elbow... looks like it could be a reflection of the sun but look closer at the lines shining out all the way around it...

That isn't a reflection of the sun in our sky... she had a crown with 12 points standing next to the throne... ;-)

There were no birds in the sky when she snapped the photo... so what are those 3 dots?

Chakra

5th November 2010, 21:31

Nice picture
This video has some really pretty flares too.
Ice crystal lens flares in Norway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsok4p_irn0&feature=related

This explains some of the shapes seen above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxKlNa4gDOw&feature=related

Here is some info on how they are created :cool:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/lens-flare.htm

"Although flare is technically caused by internal reflections, this often requires very intense light sources in order to become significant (relative to refracted light). Flare-inducing light sources may include the sun, artificial lighting and even a full moon. Even if the photo itself contains no intense light sources, stray light may still enter the lens if it hits the front element. Ordinarily light which is outside the angle of view does not contribute to the final image, but if this light reflects it may travel an unintended path and reach the film/sensor. In the visual example with flowers, the sun was not actually in the frame itself, but yet it still caused significant lens flare."

Rocky_Shorz

12th November 2010, 18:30

I decided to bring this over to continue the discussion here...

all of you purple indigos should know what to do with the energy flooding us right now...

today is 11/11 and I feel the changes happening around us, we just passed a dark moment, the 6th night has past...

close your eyes, absorb the energy and imagine the world...

wrap your energy around the world and fill it with peace...

last night I was at the beach at sunset watching to see if I saw any of the purple light, as it set I saw no changes and turned around to walk to the car and laughed... it was as if we were surrounded by a purple ozone...

a word of caution for many that are coming into their powers of healing...

your subconscious/spirit is reaching out and healing those around you...

if you "feel" their pain, you are drawing it inside of you and you need to start cleansing yourself daily...

my method is simple

in one of my dreams, I was seeking help for my sister who was sick, I went back to Nirvana and traveled to the light...

when I reached the edge looking in, an image slowly formed of Jesus who I asked for help...

I saw an image of my sister and millions of tiny lights swirling around her...

The next day she was out of intensive care on her way to recovery...

Since that time I have learned "I am the way and your light" has a much deeper meaning for Christians, Muslims, Buddhist and Hindu than first realized.

He is our connection to Heaven and the Source...

Once you have that connection to your subconscious, it is always there...

I close my eyes seeing the image of Jesus surrounded by light and say to myself...

in the name of the Father, son and Holy Spirit heal me with your light, and see the millions of lights swirling around me...

I'm not trying to change anyone's beliefs, just share what has worked for me...

The dream I just had showing the gateway to our dimension that the Pleidiens were unable to open confirms what I did in my dream was a success...

Bill mentioned something is "broken" recently...

There are those who were already in our dimension that have been preparing us for thousands of years for this event... The crossing...

They had planned on opening our door and allowing the billions of angry souls to flood into our dimension... They would have possessed those in power and broken the world as we know it...

but I already had taken Abaddon's army from the Hall of Kings and led them out to the light... Once emptied of those from our world we broke the gate so no one could follow behind us...

the anger we felt at the end of the 6th night was those from another dimension overlapping ours...

The ones I recognized as demons, where the ones meant to take over our "vessels"

The ones in our dimension in contact with our world leaders are scrambling to find what went wrong... Their attempted attack on America to raise our terror/fear level to open our spirits up for intrusion failed...

The window has passed, they won't have another chance after this for 36,000 more years...

The battle is over...

now it's time to heal our great planet and all of those on it...

Fly little angels... spread your love and healing to the world...

the 7th, is your day to shine...