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Camilo

14th October 2014, 20:49

Seven years after the nuclear tests in Alamogordo, New Mexico, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, the father of the atomic bomb, was lecturing at a college when a student asked if it was the first atomic test conducted.

“Yes, in modern times,” he replied.

The sentence, enigmatic and incomprehensible at the time, was actually an allusion to ancient Hindu texts that describe an apocalyptic catastrophe that doesn’t correlate with volcanic eruptions or other known phenomena. Oppenheimer, who avidly studied ancient Sanskrit, was undoubtedly referring to a passage in “The Bhagavad Gita” that describes a global disaster caused by “an unknown weapon, a ray of iron.”

Ancient Hindu texts

Ancient Hindu texts describe great battles taking place and an unknown weapon that causes great destruction. A manuscript illustration of the battle of Kurukshetra, recorded in the Mahabharata. Image source: Wikipedia

While it may be alarming to the scientific community to speak of the existence of atomic weapons before the present cycle of civilization, evidence of this phenomenon seems to whisper its verses in every corner of the planet.
Desert Glass

This evidence comes not only from the Hindu verses but also from ample extensions of fused glass fragments scattered throughout many deserts of the world. Silicon crystals, curiously cast, resemble remarkably the same fragments found after the nuclear explosions in Alamogordo’s White Sands atomic testing site.

In December 1932, Patrick Clayton, a surveyor from the Egyptian Geological Survey, drove between the dunes of the Great Sand Sea, close to the Saad Plateau in Egypt, when he heard crunching under the wheels. When he examined what was causing the sound, he found great chunks of glass in the sand.

The find caught the attention of geologists around the world and planted the seed for one of the biggest modern scientific enigmas. What phenomenon could be capable of raising the temperature of desert sand to at least 3,300 degrees Fahrenheit, casting it into great sheets of solid yellow-green glass?

While passing through Alamogordo’s White Sands missile range, Albion W. Hart, one of the first engineers to graduate from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, observed that the chunks of glass left by nuclear tests were identical to the formations that he observed in the African desert 50 years earlier. However, the extension of the cast in the desert would require that the explosion be 10,000 times more powerful than that observed in New Mexico.

Many scientists have sought to explain the dispersion of large glass rocks in the deserts of Libya, the Sahara, Mojave, and many other places in the world, as products of gigantic meteorite impacts. However, due to the absence of accompanying craters in the desert, the theory doesn’t hold up. Neither satellite imagery nor sonar has been able to find any holes.

Furthermore, the glass rocks found in the Libyan Desert present a grade of transparency and purity (99 percent) that is not typical in the fusions of fallen meteorites, in which iron and other materials are mixed in with the cast silicon after the impact.

Even so, scientists have proposed that the meteorites causing the glass rocks could have exploded several miles above the surface of Earth, similar to the Tunguska Event, or simply rebounded in such a way that they carried with it the evidence of the impact, but leaving the heat from the friction.

However, this doesn’t explain how two of the areas found in close proximity in the Libyan Desert show the same pattern—the probability of two meteorite impacts so close is very low. Nor does it explain the absence of water in the tektite specimens when these areas of impact were thought to be covered in it some 14,000 years ago.
Mohenjo Daro’s Ancient Catastrophe

The city where culture emerged in the present-day Indus Valley is a great enigma. The rocks of the ruins have partially crystallized, along with its hazy inhabitants. Moreover, mysterious local texts speak of a period of seven days of gratitude toward flying cars called Vimana for saving the lives of 30,000 inhabitants from a horrific episode.

In 1927, years after the discovery of the Mohenjo Daro ruins, 44 human skeletons were found on the outskirts of the city. The majority were found face down, lying in the street and holding hands as if a serious catastrophe had suddenly engulfed the town. In addition, some bodies present signs of unexplainable radiation. Many experts believe that Mohenjo Daro is an unequivocal sign of nuclear catastrophe two millennia before Christ.

Painting of the skeletons found at Mohenjo Daro

Nevertheless, the city is the not the only ancient locale suspected to have gone nuclear. Dozens of buildings from the ancient world present bricks with fused rocks, like the heat test that modern scientists cannot explain:

Ancient forts and towers in Scotland, Ireland, and England
The city of Catal Huyuk in Turkey
Alalakh in northern Syria
The ruins of the Seven Cities, near Ecuador
Cities between the Ganges River in India and the Hills of Rajmahal
Areas of the Mojave Desert in the United States

In whatever place of the world, the presence of an abysmal temperature and vivid descriptions of a terrible cataclysm suggest that there may have been an earlier epoch in which possibly nuclear technology was already known—an epoch in which atomic technology was turned against man.

- See more at: http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/desert-glass-formed-ancient-atomic-bombs-002205#sthash.MJWgD1kj.dpuf

Tesla_WTC_Solution

14th October 2014, 21:08

Thanks so much for this article. Most desert glass has to this point been blamed on comets. When it was actually the bomb.

It's likely what Ezekiel saw in the Khebar triangle too. he just didn't know how to describe the clouds.

Chilliburger

15th October 2014, 01:44

However, due to the absence of accompanying craters in the desert, the theory doesn’t hold up. Neither satellite imagery nor sonar has been able to find any holes.

Thank you for the interesting thread, I had not made the connection between ancient Indian texts and the Sahara in my mind.

I don't agree with what you said about 'crater evidence', as sand is very dynamic and its landscapes are ever changing, dunes in the region can go hundreds of meters tall, so I would say evidence of craters in the dessert would soon be dressed over.

As for adding something to this thread.. could Tutankamun's brooch scarab actually be molten silica from a nuclear explosion rather than, as it is currently suggested, from a comet that impacted the earth 28 million years ago?

:flame:

linksplatinum

15th October 2014, 06:40

Proof of reincarnation and how history repeats itself, just as David Wilcock has always mentioned when describing the 25,920 year cycles. There is literally nothing new under the Sun, as there are always traces of our past that come back to remind us at some point like, " Knock Knock...Hello! Do you remember this?" We just kept repeating things until the cycle, and the veil were slowly pierced through. Not only that, the malevolents know that things will never go back to the way they were ever again. Been there, done that, your not welcome here, as a matter of fact you never were!

animovado

15th October 2014, 09:14

Here's a small excerpt from Elisabeth Haichs book "Initiation" (http://www.znakovi-vremena.net/en/Elisabeth_Haich_Initiation.pdf)

'Father,' I ask, 'is our country the country of the Sons of God?'
'No, my child. The continent which once was the home of the Sons of God has been completely destroyed. Gradually there were fewer and fewer descendants of the divine race. They left their mortal frames behind them and did not reincarnate themselves. Finally there were only a few left in various parts of the earth to transmit dominion to the human beings who were constantly growing in power. Because of the inter-breeding of the two races, however, there arose some individuals with a knowledge of magic acquired from their fathers and the animal-like, physically oriented selfishness of their mothers. These were able to infiltrate into the temple, and by virtue of their spiritual powers, they received initiation. However, they degraded their knowledge to black magic and made selfish use of their own powers and the natural forces they controlled with the instruments and equipment of the temple.
'The Sons of God who were then still living in this part of the earth saw what was coming. They knew that these powers mercilessly destroy anyone who uses them wrongly, that is, with satanic selfishness instead of with divine unselfishness. They knew the black magicians were headed straight for perdition and their blind avarice would cause general destruction. So the last Sons of God built huge ships, closed on all sides and even insulated against the forces which penetrate and dissolve matter. Then they secretly took aboard a few of their instruments, their families and their domestic animals; and closing all openings, they sailed away from the part of the earth that was to be destroyed. Some sailed north, some east, some south, while some, sailing westward, arrived here where we are now.
'The black magicians soon lost control over their instruments. It should have been their task to conduct the highest cosmic divine forces into these instruments and store them there, because the only source of this power on earth is the human being himself. But the more selfish these people became, the more a change took place in the current with which they charged these instruments for later use. One day, when the Sons of God in their insulated ships had already sailed away to a sufficient distance, the tragedy occurred. One of the black magicians unintentionally conducted into his own body a force which dissolves matter, that is, changes it into another form of energy. When this process has once been set in motion, the matter which has been transformed into energy goes on and on, acting as a destructive force, until it has dematerialized everything. In this way the whole continent was destroyed. Finally the new forces thus created slowed down and eventually halted the process of disintegration.
'The entire dematerialized continent was transformed into energy of radiation, at first rising up to the upper reaches of the earth's atmosphere, then returning transformed into the primordial form of all matter. After further transformation processes, the whole gigantic mass fell to earth again in what appeared to be an unending downpour of water, mud and sand.
'The waters of the oceans rolled over the gigantic cleavage in the body of the earth. The land masses of the other hemisphere, split asunder by the cataclysmic shake-up, moved farther and farther apart in order to restore equilibrium throughout the earth, until they finally occupied their present positions. Part of the destroyed continent now lies in our country as a mighty desert of sand, and there is a danger that winds may carry abroad these mountains of sand and cover up fertile, inhabited areas.

Atlas

15th October 2014, 10:41

A Voice from the Mountains

16th October 2014, 18:08

Ancient nuclear warfare debunked:

The Mahabharata is a book apparently of about 1.8 million words, so I'm slowly researching where this claim may have come from, because I don't believe Von Daniken makes stuff up out of nowhere. Book 7 of the Mahabharata, the Drona Parva, section 7, from an 1888 translation, is very similar, though apparently not the passage originally referenced.

It describes a weapon consisting of "a blazing shaft possessed of the effulgence of smokeless fire." It caused flying debris to come forth that are described like fiery arrows and meteors in the sky. A giant cloud is said to have come out and blocked the sun, and "inauspicious winds began to blow." Also "the very elements seem to be perturbed. The Sun seemed to turn round. The universe, scorched with heat, seemed to be in a fever. The elephants and other creatures of the land, scorched by the energy of that weapon, ran in fright, breathing heavily and desirous of protection against that terrible force."

It also says that the waters were heated and animals in them seemed to burn. Men, horses, elephants, are all burned severely, thousands dying. "Burnt by the energy of Acwatthaman's weapon, the forms of the slain could not be distinguished."

Here is the book on Google Books:

http://books.google.com/books?id=pHlFAQAAIAAJ

Starting on page 678. I'd like to search more specifically later for where the hair and nails thing came from, because this does not seem to be the passage about Arjuna's weapon.

I was watching the video you posted, and it all sounded reasonable, until he got to the part about vitrified sand found in deserts being used as evidence for ancient nuclear detonations. He went through some alternatives that could have caused in, as in he mentioned them (lightning, making pottery, a meteor impact, etc.) but none of them fit these large fields of glass known to exist in deserts, for example in northern Africa. The closest fit is a meteor impact, and if it was an ancient meteor impact of that magnitude I would suppose that there would be evidence of a crater pretty much exactly where all of this desert glass is found.

Atlas

16th October 2014, 19:19

... large fields of glass known to exist in deserts, for example in northern Africa.
Where exactly are these 'large fields of glass known to exist in deserts', can you provide their coordinates ? How big are they ?

The closest fit is a meteor impact, and if it was an ancient meteor impact of that magnitude I would suppose that there would be evidence of a crater pretty much exactly where all of this desert glass is found.
The craters may have been covered by the winds blowing desert sand on top of them...

Atlas

16th October 2014, 19:45

Ok, so here is what Camilo posted about the Libyan desert:

[...] the glass rocks found in the Libyan Desert present a grade of transparency and purity (99 percent) that is not typical in the fusions of fallen meteorites, in which iron and other materials are mixed in with the cast silicon after the impact.

Even so, scientists have proposed that the meteorites causing the glass rocks could have exploded several miles above the surface of Earth, similar to the Tunguska Event, or simply rebounded in such a way that they carried with it the evidence of the impact, but leaving the heat from the friction.

However, this doesn’t explain how two of the areas found in close proximity in the Libyan Desert show the same pattern—the probability of two meteorite impacts so close is very low. Nor does it explain the absence of water in the tektite specimens when these areas of impact were thought to be covered in it some 14,000 years ago.
The paper below titled: "The non-impact origin of the Libyan Desert Glass" concludes:

The origin by volcanism is very likely.
http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/LDG/
source: http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/LDG/

Hervé

16th October 2014, 19:57

Yeaaahhh... BIG Badabooms!

Meteorite storm 'smashed the Earth 12,000 years ago and killed off a prehistoric people'
By Daily Mail Reporter (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Daily+Mail+Reporter)

PUBLISHED:09:49 GMT, 12 June 2012 | UPDATED:15:01 GMT, 12 June 2012

Scientists find 'melt-glass' in 12,000-year-old rock
Melt glass forms at 1,700 degrees - equal to atomic bomb
Meteorites thought to have triggered a cold snap that killed off early civilisation and giant animals

Scientists have found compelling evidence that a meteorite storm hit the earth more than 12,000 years ago, and is likely to have been responsible for the extinction of a prehistoric people and giant animals including mammoths. Evidence of the meteorite’s intense heat was found on two continents. The researchers believe the huge cosmic impact triggered a vicious cold snap, which caused widespread destruction.

The international team found a substance known as melt glass, which forms at temperatures of 1,7000 to 2,200 degrees Celsius and can result from a ‘cosmic body’ hitting the earth.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/12/article-2158054-13917645000005DC-733_642x219.jpg
Extreme heat: The meteorite impact caused the 13,000-year-old quartz found in Syria to melt and boil, creating features including burst bubbles and flow textures

The material was found in a thin layer of rock in Pennsylvania and South Carolina in the US, along with Syria. Tests confirmed the material was not of cosmic, volcanic or human-made origin.

More... 'Mega meteor that crashed off Indian coast' may have wiped out dinosaurs (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1221388/Indian-mega-meteor-wiped-dinosaurs.html)

‘The extreme temperatures required are equal to those of an atomic bomb blast, high enough to make sand melt and boil,’ said James Kennett, professor of earth science at UC Santa Barbara.

The melt-glass appears identical to other material found in Meteor Crater in Arizona, and the Australasian tektite field, and also matches melt-glass produced by the 1945 Trinity nuclear airburst in New Mexico in the US, Professor Kennett said.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/12/article-2158054-0533B7370000044D-780_638x467.jpg
Gone forever: The meteor storm is thought to have caused the mass extinction of megafauna including the woolly mammoth

The team's findings support the controversial theory that an asteroid impact occurred 12,900 years ago and triggered the start of an unusual cold period on Earth, leading to widespread extinction of human and animal life.

In the cold period, known as the Younger Dryas, North American megafauna including mammoths and giant ground sloths disappeared forever, along with a prehistoric civilisation called the Clovis culture.

The Clovis people used distinctive bone and ivory tools and are regarded as the first human inhabitants of the New World.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/12/article-2158054-13917641000005DC-497_640x221.jpg

Match: Melt glass, known as trinitite, formed during the Trinity nuclear airburst in New Mexico in 1945 when rocks melted. The scientists say the melt-glass is similar to that found in the 12,800-year-old rock

Evidence supporting the theory has now been found on three continents, covering nearly one-third of the planet, from California to Western Europe, and into the Middle East.

Syria is the easternmost site yet identified in the northern hemisphere, but the researchers have yet to find a limit to debris field of the impact. Melt-glass has been found in rock layers of the same age in Arizona and Venezuela.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/12/article-2158054-1392D3A2000005DC-114_640x545.jpg
Scientists found the melt glass - evidence of the meteorite's intense heat - in Pennsylvania and South Carolina in the US along with Syria

The three sites found in the latest study were separated by 1,000 to 10,000 kilometers, suggesting that ‘a swarm of cosmic objects,’ either fragments of a meteorite or comet, had hit the earth, Professor Kennett said.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/12/article-2158054-1391764A000005DC-429_310x252.jpg

Proof: Earth scientist James Kennett says evidence for the meteorite has been found over one third of the planet

Professor Kennett added that the archaeological site in Syria where the melt-glass material was found –– Abu Hureyra, in the Euphrates Valley –– is one of the few sites of its kind that record the transition from nomadic hunter-gatherers to farmer-hunters who live in permanent villages.

‘Archeologists and anthropologists consider this area the “birthplace of agriculture,” which occurred close to 12,900 years ago,’ Professor Kennett said.

‘The presence of a thick charcoal layer in the ancient village in Syria indicates a major fire associated with the melt-glass and impact spherules 12,900 years ago,’ he continued.

‘Evidence suggests that the effects on that settlement and its inhabitants would have been severe.’

The study was published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2158054/Scientists-discover-evidence-meteorite-storm-hit-Earth-13-000-years-ago-killed-prehistoric-civilisation.html#ixzz1xpMlfDOA

A Voice from the Mountains

16th October 2014, 20:38

Where exactly are these 'large fields of glass known to exist in deserts', can you provide their coordinates ? How big are they ?

Would you like me to also buy some plane tickets, rent a camel, ride to the site and conduct field tests with a group of Ivy-Leage archaeologists, all photographed and filmed by a professional video team, and then submit all of this to be peer-reviewed and published in several mainstream journals?

If this is where you're going, then you're barking up the wrong tree and should move along to the next customer. I'm on the Project Avalon forums because I believe I can sniff a rat from a distance away, without it having to be spelled out letter-by-letter by some ordained experts in mainstream science-like opinionology.

I've heard of fields of glass in northern Africa before and the OP has already specifically mentioned Libya. You don't have to ask rhetorical questions if you think I'm wrong, you can just say you don't like the idea, and disagree with me. If you were genuinely interested in where these things are you could probably do some searches online and find them yourself. But I think really you are asking me rhetorical questions and don't particularly even care about coordinates.

These are some related notes I wrote down from a book I was reading that referenced the subject:

“Atomic scars” found in Siberia, Iraq, Colorado, and Mongolia. In southern Iraq in 1947, a site was excavated through Babylonian, Akkadian & Sumerian layers, then a farm culture of 6000-7000 BC. Below that, evidence of a “Magdalenian” culture circa 16,000 years ago, & finally a layer where sand had fused into glass (suggesting intense heat such as from a nuclear detonation).

Of course, as mentioned, this could also have been from a meteor impact. With this information there isn't enough there to be able to single ourselves down to one explanation yet.

Also this:

Sand fused into green glass (trinitite), as from nuclear blasts, has been uncovered at ancient archaeological sites from around the world, along with fused brick, vitrified forts, etc.
Scotland is home to a number of pre-historic stone fortresses that were vitrified. One prehistoric fortress in Scotland (Maiden Castle3) covers 120 acres with a circumference/perimeter of ~1.5 miles, & is estimated to have required 250,000 people to defend.

That's about all I personally have on hand about the subject besides what Google can bring in. The fact that i didn't record more specific information as to the sources of information is a testament to how important this relatively trivial issue really is to me. The only importance it really has to me is further evidence that advanced civilizations existed in the past, which is attested to enough by other things that fall outside of this particular topic as far as I'm concerned.

The craters may have been covered by the winds blowing desert sand on top of them...

What happened to the exactitude of asking for coordinates? Now we are already back to "may have been"? If that's not good enough for you should it be good enough for me?

If the sand was turned to glass by the meteor, and then the crater was covered up, then the glass would likely also be covered up to at least some extent. So there would have to be excavations to dig around and try to prove that this is indeed what happened. Until then I'm sure you realize your idea is unfalsifiable and so unscientific, no different than my own opinions.

When neither side has definitive answers, this doesn't constitute a "debunking" by either party. We just have things to investigate further.

Atlas

16th October 2014, 22:48

Hervé

16th October 2014, 23:08

[...]

.... I would be delighted to find such evidence but as a matter of fact, there is none.

Hold onto those horses for a bit, there...

The stones of the El Hierro eruption, the most radioactive in the world

http://www.diariodeavisos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/restingolitas-2.jpg

From: http://www.diariodeavisos.com/2012/08/04/actualidad/las-piedras-de-la-erupcion-herrena-de-las-mas-radiactivas-del-mundo/ (http://www.diariodeavisos.com/2012/08/04/actualidad/las-piedras-de-la-erupcion-herrena-de-las-mas-radiactivas-del-mundo/)

RUBEN DARIO GARCIA LEON (AP) | Santa Cruz de Tenerife
Antonio Darwich, physicist, professor at the Department of Soil Science and Geology at the University of La Laguna; told EFE that the stones that surfaced as a result of the volcanic/earthquake crisis which affected the island of El Hierro last year are the most radioactive in the world.

Antonio Darwich also said in an interview that the restingolitas are unique in the world in terms of the relationship between two radioactive elements such as thorium and uranium, adding that these statements can be made after the results of the chemical and radiological analyses on those rocks.

The uranium concentration is in the white part of the stone, which forms the core and is chemically very different from the outer zone, which is black.

The white part has indices of uranium that are at least six times greater than those found in any other volcanic rock of the Canary Islands, and are probably the most radioactive in the world, Darwich said Antonio.

By comparing the amount of uranium and thorium in these stones thrown by the submarine volcano of El Hierro, it is found that it is unique in the world, as it will normally be between 0.1 and 0.2 times for the latter/secondary[?], and in the case of the said restingolitas, these are three times more than background/primary[?].

This result indicates that this material that has been subjected to a hydrothermal process, the researcher said, adding that the world may have four or five rocks that have a similar composition.

However, in the crust or outside of the rock emerged in El Hierro, levels of uranium are different, which means that the origin is different for the inner layer [white core portion], he explained.

Regarding the possible origin of the inside, scientists from the Institute of Volcanology of the Canary Islands (Involcan) collaborating with the University of La Laguna for this study funded by the Council for Nuclear Safety indicate that there are several possibilities.

Antonio Darwich said that in the area where the underwater eruption occurred, and even El Hierro is a young island, the seamounts are Cretaceous, the time of the dinosaurs, and noted that the white coating is material rather old and might have at least one hundred thousand years[?].

The source of the whites is hydrothermal, which means that some fluid has pumped uranium into the area of El Hierro and it is noteworthy that this layer appears to be exhausted in a few weeks, said Antonio Darwich.

The inside of the said restingolitas also could come from the ocean floor in Africa, or slips of the island of Tenerife, and even ancient eruptions material, so that opens a new study on the subject, said Antonio Darwich.

This scientist was concerned that there has been a plundering of a rock that is unique in the world, because there are few samples of this stone and even if a high concentration of uranium is not dangerous since the amounts of the radioactive element is not significant.

Antonio Darwich said it is "absolutely" a rare stone due to its uranium content and added that until the appearance of this rock the greatest concentration of this element in the Canaries occurs only in the Tindaya mountain on the island of Fuerteventura.

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For those of you who have steadily followed this thread, you would know by now that the white cores of the Restingolitas with a high silica content and which generated the "Rhyolitic explosive" scare in the beginning are in fact of sedimentary origins. In other words, the white component of these Restingolitas are magmatically reworked/melted sediments as first suggested by Juan J. Coello Bravo (SOBRE EL ORIGEN DE LA “RESTINGOLITA” pdf)

https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pW4rnoRlHQZSvflUmv3wDsMeE0jP5B0Qd7MnzRYmQPs_X70huoEeLsvK5YfSH_lyvwR7PqaNnIsqwi93nYFzqd_fNv6tIsbK2/Panorama-3.jpg?psid=1

and later confirmed in a published collective paper of which Juan Carlo Carracedo was one of the author (Floating stones off El Hierro, Canary Islands: xenoliths of pre-island sedimentary origin in the early products of the October 2011 eruption; pdf, V.R. Troll et al., http://www.solid-earth.net/3/97/2012/se-3-97-2012.html):

https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1py1Hv0hlhJ9WqJIzU3WnmUvBrt_0rah0TzDImSyI_G6ORrZ6d5CWXFucXWVgiYENKCyHxm3tU14S3lbFC3d_f6z0AZH4TUGl9/Image-2012-08-04-12h7mn21.jpg?psid=1

Fig. 6. Sketch showing the internal structure of El Hierro Island. Ascending magma is interacting with the pre-volcanic sedimentary rocks, and we suggest that the early floating stones found at El Hierro are the products of magma-sediment interaction beneath the volcano. Pre-island sedimentary material was carried to the ocean floor during magma ascent and eruption and melted and vesiculated while immersed in magma to develop a pumice-like texture (“xenopumice”). Once erupted onto the ocean floor, these xeno-pumices separated from the host lava and floated on the sea surface due to their high vesicularity (i.e. their low density).

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The above interview of Antonio Darwich relating the uranium content of the white (sedimentary) core of these Restingolitas would just be one of those peculiar oddities of nature if it weren't for what has been recalled -- by 1000s of individuals -- to have happen to Earth and that specific area some 75 million years ago... at the time of the dinosaurs:

Here are the relevant portions of a video transcript ( see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=529642&viewfull=1#post529642) <-- for the video with whole transcript, glossary and context):

[...]

People were ferried in here by the billions and the billions and the billions and they were ferried in here with boxes and they were put in boxes and stacked around and the people who were on this planet already, just caught it in the teeth, nobody bothered to pick them up. They just shot their administrators from guns and shot their control points out and they took these people in boxes and so forth and they dump them and then they set off hydrogen bombs on the top of each primary volcano there is on this particular planet and when they blew up , it blew the thetans into the air and after the bomb, an electronic ribbon which also was a type of standing wave was erected over the area. The tremendous winds on the planet blew every thetan there was straight in to those particular vacuum zones which had been created.

[...]

... they were then boxed up again and the boxes were mixed so that – there were two assembly areas, one was Las Palmas and the other was Hawaii and in these two assembly areas, they took samples from each volcano area and put it in little boxes. They have an assembly line and at Las Palmas it once was down the main street of Las Palmas. More darned accidents on that main street than you can shake a stick at. One of our captains was feeling rather queasy until I told her, “Well the old assembly line of R6 is just 25 feet from you as you arrived here on the seaway.” That blew the charge.

[...]

There were 250 billion on this planet, the name of this planet was Teegeeak and this is known as the “bomb-place” and this is the “evil place.” This is the place [?pretty much all of it?] got smashed.

[...]

You wonder today where you see large areas of where their alleged volcanic action has been, those are R6 explosions, the remains of them. If you go down through many layers of civilizations, archeologically, you come to “green glass.” (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45635-Excavating-The-Empty-Tomb-The-Gospels-based-on-Homer-s-Odyssey&p=506302&viewfull=1#post506302) [<-- check it out]

[...]

... But, Incident Two has a volcanic explosion which follows the actual explosion as its picture. And it’s very tricked, very tricked up.

So that you actually – bunch of thetans and they get bombed, that is one, that is one of the explosions that is shown and there are several explosions shown in sequence so actually what happened was that the real explosion which is the guy boxed up in a box or he is walking around or all of a sudden all Loyal Officers that were caught here and so on, were chained on the top of buildings and so on and so when the bomb hit, why, they were pick up into the fantastic --100s of miles an hour, 1000s of miles an hour winds that come with gross, complete atomic explosion all over the planet and they were whirled into these terrific winds and so on.

Everybody on the planet was killed and about three days afterwards is actually when the implanters started operating.

[...]

Now, the net result of all of this, was to make a 75 million year vacuum. That’s as far as this part of the universe is concerned. You wonder why: “Why don’t… if there are saucers around, why don’t they land on this planet?”

This planet, traditionally, over the various zones and area has an evil reputation. Mutineers and deserters and that sort of thing were often dumped on this planet. They’ll often come here and refuge because they know nobody’s gonna come after them.

This planet is the planet of the evil repute and this sector of the universe has a very evil repute.

Now, all the data which you have that was set out seventy four fluff-fluff-fluff million years ago – almost seventy five – this catastrophe overcame this confederation and has just made it an unsavory part of this universe, to say the least.

About, well, relatively, we are almost in modern times -- 20 million years ago, something like that – somebody started a body line on the planet; it gradually worked through various areas of barbarism and once more, R6 tailored made it to be nothing but a caveman civilization.

[...]

... The dramatization of exploding a bomb is contained in R6 so sooner or later somebody is gonna smack this planet into a [?cock-hatter?]. That’s why I talk occasionally about having to get there with the mostest.

[...]

There you go...

Who would have thunk that these beautiful, black and white curiosities spit out of an El Hierro submarine volcano would lend strong supportive evidence that this planet we live on got completely and utterly nuked into a billiard ball at around the time of the dinosaurs?

Agape

16th October 2014, 23:36

And here ....

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/bigmoldavitemap_zps6ca7069e.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/PaldenLhamo/media/bigmoldavitemap_zps6ca7069e.jpg.html)

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/42_17LIGHT_zps73f4b194.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/user/PaldenLhamo/media/42_17LIGHT_zps73f4b194.jpg.html)

Check for Moldavites : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavite on Google images, they're beautiful.

In 1900, F. E. Suess pointed out that the gravel-size moldavites exhibited curious pittings and wrinkles on the surface, which could not be due to the action of water, but resembled the characteristic markings on many meteorites. Boldly attributing the material to a cosmic origin, he regarded moldavites as a special type of meteorite for which he proposed the name of tektite. However, for a long time, it was generally believed to be a variety of obsidian. Because of their difficult fusibility, extremely low water content, and its chemical composition, the current overwhelming consensus among earth scientists is that moldavites were formed 15,000 ago during the impact of a giant meteorite in present-day Nördlinger Ries. Splatters of material that was melted by the impact cooled while they were actually airborne and most fell in Bohemia. Currently, moldavites have been found in area that includes southern Bohemia, western Moravia, the Cheb Basin (northwest Bohemia), Lusatia (Germany), and Waldviertel (Austria).[1] Isotope analysis of samples of moldavites have shown a beryllium-10 isotope composition similar to the composition of Australasian tektites (Australites)and Ivory Coast tektites (Ivorites). Their similarity in beryllium-10 isotope composition indicates that moldavites, Australites, and Ivorites consist of near surface and loosely consolidated terrestrial sediments melted by hypervelocity impacts.

http://www.moldavit.de/UK/info.htm

The information regarding its age and origin ( mostly , meteoritic impact ) is too varied , from 15 000 to 15 million years ago...that's sort of difference .

Could be any other space crash .

A Voice from the Mountains

17th October 2014, 02:20

This would be an excellent idea. I encourage you to do so. :)

Then I would encourage you to give me about a million dollars so I can arrange all of this. For it to be enough to satisfy you (not to the "may have been" standards, but the ones you'll hold to me) then I may even need $2 million or maybe even $5 million. ;)

There are scientific and rational explanations for the glass found in the deserts, and if we stick to the facts, there is absolutely no evidence for nuclear warfare in ancient times.

If the facts did indicate a nuclear detonation then that would be a scientific and rational answer. Rationality is not something separate from how facts and science are determined.

In this particular case, I'm not seeing evidence for either case. The video you posted contested claims others have made but it didn't actually prove anything, just as the fact that melted (vitrified) stones and other materials around the world aren't proof in themselves of nuclear detonations. It's still an open subject for investigation.

Atlas

17th October 2014, 02:28

A Voice from the Mountains

17th October 2014, 03:16

It's still an open subject for investigation.
Absolutely, investigate as much as you like, again, I encourage you to do so. And please let us know if you ever find anything better than a "may have been" because we might be interested in what you've found (when you come back from your expedition of course ;)).

There are people who I'm sure are much more qualified than you or I out there already doing these things. A lot of our ideas of history and archaeology have been inherited from the 1800's or earlier and are currently in the process of being re-examined. Everything from why we celebrate Columbus Day (Columbus had hundreds, if not thousands of natives tortured and killed, and even personally raped some and then alluded to it in his diary entires) to who built the pyramids (ideas which we formerly inherited from British fameseekers of the 1800s) to what civilization was the oldest (once thought to be Egypt, then Sumer, now there's Gobekli Tepe...).

If you stick around long enough I'm sure you'll inevitably see a lot of good research come out on a lot of topics, simply because no matter how many scientists want to stay stuck in the past, new theories and evidence are always moving forward.

Atlas

17th October 2014, 03:52

... no matter how many scientists want to stay stuck in the past, new theories and evidence are always moving forward.
Agreed bsbray. However, I also think that we have enough new theories to theorize with at the moment, what we really lack is the evidence. The 2012 prophecy has been theorized for years and years and miserably failed because of lack of evidence. This is the mistake we should try to avoid IMO.

jerry

17th October 2014, 04:07

Ancient nuclear warfare debunked:
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Related e-book: "Ancient Atom Bombs":

http://ufospaning.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/jason-colavito-ancient-atom-bombs.jpg
Link to PDF (http://www.jasoncolavito.com/uploads/3/7/5/9/3759274/colavito_-_ancient_atom_bombs.pdf) (31 pages)who are we to believe thousands of scholars and scientists or one who wishes to debunk the claim , as their translated quotes as well lacks the reference to specific pages in book as well...... LOL

A Voice from the Mountains

17th October 2014, 04:32

Agreed bsbray. However, I also think that we have enough new theories to theorize with at the moment, what we really lack is the evidence. The 2012 prophecy has been theorized for years and years and miserably failed because of lack of evidence. This is the mistake we should try to avoid IMO.

I know it's off topic but that was not a real prophecy in the first place. The Mayans themselves (who are not all dead and still live in the jungles of Guatemala) just said that 2012 was the beginning of a new cycle in our history in the same way that January 1st is the beginning of a new year.

Yes, there are lots of bad theories out there. They will sort themselves out over time. That's what makes the old theories so hard to die out, because they had more merit than what they replaced.