Does bilderberger Samsung have connections with Big Energy companies? Sending signals through the energy grid?

[ExomatrixTV]

~my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

Just saw by "accident" a dim message on my tuned off 32inch LCD-TV a moving bar with 100% "software updating complete" ... how is that possible?

Weird!

Normally I pull the 220volt plug every-time when I am finished watching TV, today I forgot!

... and I have NO cable connection with TV on purpose! I boycott TV in general since 2007. I only use usb-stick with downloaded HD1080p movies!

Does Samsung have connections with Big Energy companies? Sending signals through the energy grid?

cheers,
John Kuhles from The Netherlands

[linksplatinum]

Wow that is strange, is it a smart TV that has wifi capabilities? Otherwise, there is definitely something going through the grid I would think.

[ExomatrixTV]

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=energy+grid+secret+access+Internet%3F

[sigma6]

Interesting bit of data... and I agree, I just hate it when computers do things without my permission... I much prefer when I am noticed via dialogue boxes and can choose options... including "NO" ...otherwise I will sit my computers in front of a Star Wars movie and let them watch it only up to the part where R2D2 and C3PO get kidnapped... ;P

[Frank V]

~my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

Just saw by "accident" a dim message on my tuned off 32inch LCD-TV a moving bar with 100% "software updating complete" ... how is that possible?

Weird!

Normally I pull the 220volt plug every-time when I am finished watching TV, today I forgot!

... and I have NO cable connection with TV on purpose! I boycott TV in general since 2007. I only use usb-stick with downloaded HD1080p movies!

Does Samsung have connections with Big Energy companies? Sending signals through the energy grid?

cheers,
John Kuhles from The Netherlands

I have explained this phenomenon in this other thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75998-Persian-Woman-Talks-about-THE-MATRIX-women4truth&p=889065&viewfull=1#post889065) where you mention it. ;-)

[Bongo]

~WTF? ... my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

Just saw by "accident" a dim message on my tuned off 32inch LCD-TV a moving bar with 100% "software updating complete" ... how is that possible? Weird!

Normally I pull the 220volt plug every-time when I am finished watching TV, today I forgot!


Samsung's new TVs run an operating system based upon a Linux kernel - presumably it's a version of Android specifically for TVs. This software, like all other software, contains bugs and possible security leaks. The operating system is therefore set up to regularly check for updates and bugfixes, and to download those automatically if applicable and available.

I agree that the fact that this happens in the background and without the user's consent would cause an alarm to go off in most user's minds, but I'm sure that if you read the manual - which may have been printed on dead trees or supplied with the TV on a CD-/DVD-ROM - it will explain this mechanism of self-updating.

Of course, one has to actually read the manual, and most people don't even bother with that anymore these days. ;-)

If you don't trust the software, then at least have some faith in the millions of Free & Open Source Software developers out there, because the operating system running on those TVs is indeed Free & Open Source Software, so the source code is visible and open to scrutiny. That is how the bugs get spotted and fixed so rapidly - as opposed to in proprietary platforms like Microsoft Windows or Apple OS X.

Actually that doesn't explain how the tv was able to connect to the internet without having access to an internet connection, unless you are saying that the tv has a direct 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from which is very unlikely.

[belljoshua565]

What model do you have? I would think most LCD model have now got Wi-Fi built in. It is possible that it latched onto a free network in your area. I know in computers even about 10-12 years old it was possible to switch them on and off remotely, and in those days they definitely did not have wi-fi.

[Frank V]

~WTF? ... my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

Just saw by "accident" a dim message on my tuned off 32inch LCD-TV a moving bar with 100% "software updating complete" ... how is that possible? Weird!

Normally I pull the 220volt plug every-time when I am finished watching TV, today I forgot!


Samsung's new TVs run an operating system based upon a Linux kernel - presumably it's a version of Android specifically for TVs. This software, like all other software, contains bugs and possible security leaks. The operating system is therefore set up to regularly check for updates and bugfixes, and to download those automatically if applicable and available.

I agree that the fact that this happens in the background and without the user's consent would cause an alarm to go off in most user's minds, but I'm sure that if you read the manual - which may have been printed on dead trees or supplied with the TV on a CD-/DVD-ROM - it will explain this mechanism of self-updating.

Of course, one has to actually read the manual, and most people don't even bother with that anymore these days. ;-)

If you don't trust the software, then at least have some faith in the millions of Free & Open Source Software developers out there, because the operating system running on those TVs is indeed Free & Open Source Software, so the source code is visible and open to scrutiny. That is how the bugs get spotted and fixed so rapidly - as opposed to in proprietary platforms like Microsoft Windows or Apple OS X.

Actually that doesn't explain how the tv was able to connect to the internet without having access to an internet connection, unless you are saying that the tv has a direct 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from which is very unlikely.

Only the original poster knows whether his television set is connected to the Internet or not. Many modern TVs - i.e. so-called smart TVs - have provisions for connecting to either a cable modem or (A)DSL connection directly via a UTP cable and possibly a switch, or to do this via a WiFi LAN connection.

It doesn't need "a 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from", because that's not how computer network traffic works. Smart TVs running under a Linux-based operating system - whether it's GNU/Linux or an Android variant - can run a so-called cron daemon, which is a scheduler process. This cron daemon can schedule all kinds of events, and one of those may very well be - this is actually even most likely the case - a program which contacts a firmware repository at Samsung's website for updates, and if present, downloads and installs those.

I myself don't own a smart TV, but I do have a digital television decoder with a built-in hard disk recorder which I am renting from the cable TV company, and this device works the same way. It is connected to the TV network via a standard coaxial cable, and to my cable modem via a UTP cable. Well, there are two power line network adapters in between because my cable modem sits here in my computer room and the device sits in the living room at the other end of my apartment. It probably also runs a GNU/Linux system underneath, but the actual TV programming logic et al is written in Java. There is however one difference, i.e. it doesn't periodically check for updates, but rather the cable TV company itself is pushing the updates. So there is a process within the device which listens on a certain network port for a signal to download updates, and as such, the cable TV company can tell the device to download updates when they are available. After downloading those updates, the device typically needs a reboot - often it will do this itself, but sometimes the user has to do this. The device also sits on an isolated subnet from the cable TV provider, because they are also my Internet Service Provider, and so the subnet and IP address of the device must be distinct from a regular Internet connection. This device is proprietary to my cable TV provider and as such, a bit different in methodology from a consumer-grade device such as a smart TV which is available to every customer regardless of who their TV and Internet providers are.

The updates are usually scheduled late at night - around 04:00 - and if you happen to be recording or watching a movie or other program when the update comes in, you're screwed, of course. Well, in my case it doesn't really matter anymore because the device has gone belly up, and it's not the first time this happens. They have a very short lifetime due to the poor quality of the components, and in the case of my device, it was the hard disk that broke down - note: I am talking of the digital decoders supplied by my cable TV provider, not of Samsung smart TVs. Therefore I haven't been watching TV anymore in, oh, well over a year already.

[Bongo]

~WTF? ... my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

Just saw by "accident" a dim message on my tuned off 32inch LCD-TV a moving bar with 100% "software updating complete" ... how is that possible? Weird!

Normally I pull the 220volt plug every-time when I am finished watching TV, today I forgot!


Samsung's new TVs run an operating system based upon a Linux kernel - presumably it's a version of Android specifically for TVs. This software, like all other software, contains bugs and possible security leaks. The operating system is therefore set up to regularly check for updates and bugfixes, and to download those automatically if applicable and available.

I agree that the fact that this happens in the background and without the user's consent would cause an alarm to go off in most user's minds, but I'm sure that if you read the manual - which may have been printed on dead trees or supplied with the TV on a CD-/DVD-ROM - it will explain this mechanism of self-updating.

Of course, one has to actually read the manual, and most people don't even bother with that anymore these days. ;-)

If you don't trust the software, then at least have some faith in the millions of Free & Open Source Software developers out there, because the operating system running on those TVs is indeed Free & Open Source Software, so the source code is visible and open to scrutiny. That is how the bugs get spotted and fixed so rapidly - as opposed to in proprietary platforms like Microsoft Windows or Apple OS X.

Actually that doesn't explain how the tv was able to connect to the internet without having access to an internet connection, unless you are saying that the tv has a direct 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from which is very unlikely.

Only the original poster knows whether his television set is connected to the Internet or not. Many modern TVs - i.e. so-called smart TVs - have provisions for connecting to either a cable modem or (A)DSL connection directly via a UTP cable and possibly a switch, or to do this via a WiFi LAN connection.

It doesn't need "a 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from", because that's not how computer network traffic works. Smart TVs running under a Linux-based operating system - whether it's GNU/Linux or an Android variant - can run a so-called cron daemon, which is a scheduler process. This cron daemon can schedule all kinds of events, and one of those may very well be - this is actually even most likely the case - a program which contacts a firmware repository at Samsung's website for updates, and if present, downloads and installs those.

I myself don't own a smart TV, but I do have a digital television decoder with a built-in hard disk recorder which I am renting from the cable TV company, and this device works the same way. It is connected to the TV network via a standard coaxial cable, and to my cable modem via a UTP cable. Well, there are two power line network adapters in between because my cable modem sits here in my computer room and the device sits in the living room at the other end of my apartment. It probably also runs a GNU/Linux system underneath, but the actual TV programming logic et al is written in Java. There is however one difference, i.e. it doesn't periodically check for updates, but rather the cable TV company itself is pushing the updates. So there is a process within the device which listens on a certain network port for a signal to download updates, and as such, the cable TV company can tell the device to download updates when they are available. After downloading those updates, the device typically needs a reboot - often it will do this itself, but sometimes the user has to do this. The device also sits on an isolated subnet from the cable TV provider, because they are also my Internet Service Provider, and so the subnet and IP address of the device must be distinct from a regular Internet connection. This device is proprietary to my cable TV provider and as such, a bit different in methodology from a consumer-grade device such as a smart TV which is available to every customer regardless of who their TV and Internet providers are.

The updates are usually scheduled late at night - around 04:00 - and if you happen to be recording or watching a movie or other program when the update comes in, you're screwed, of course. Well, in my case it doesn't really matter anymore because the device has gone belly up, and it's not the first time this happens. They have a very short lifetime due to the poor quality of the components, and in the case of my device, it was the hard disk that broke down - note: I am talking of the digital decoders supplied by my cable TV provider, not of Samsung smart TVs. Therefore I haven't been watching TV anymore in, oh, well over a year already.


~my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

In the above quote its clearly stated he did not give it the password to his internet.

The rest of what you wrote is just a reiteration of your original post with some knowledge of how a scheduler works and the mention of a couple of programming languages thrown in, yes they schedule updates but unless the wifi is set up or a ethernet network cable (UTP cable) is connected and a password has been entered it will never be able to connect to the internet in order to get the scheduled updates.

The 24/7 connection I was referring to would be like the TV having a mobile phone incorporated in to it so it didn't need a home internet connection to achieve its updates and would be able to connect at any time although the user would have to change the time in the scheduler if another time was desired, but the likelihood of this is not high at all.

[Frank V]

~WTF? ... my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

Just saw by "accident" a dim message on my tuned off 32inch LCD-TV a moving bar with 100% "software updating complete" ... how is that possible? Weird!

Normally I pull the 220volt plug every-time when I am finished watching TV, today I forgot!


Samsung's new TVs run an operating system based upon a Linux kernel - presumably it's a version of Android specifically for TVs. This software, like all other software, contains bugs and possible security leaks. The operating system is therefore set up to regularly check for updates and bugfixes, and to download those automatically if applicable and available.

I agree that the fact that this happens in the background and without the user's consent would cause an alarm to go off in most user's minds, but I'm sure that if you read the manual - which may have been printed on dead trees or supplied with the TV on a CD-/DVD-ROM - it will explain this mechanism of self-updating.

Of course, one has to actually read the manual, and most people don't even bother with that anymore these days. ;-)

If you don't trust the software, then at least have some faith in the millions of Free & Open Source Software developers out there, because the operating system running on those TVs is indeed Free & Open Source Software, so the source code is visible and open to scrutiny. That is how the bugs get spotted and fixed so rapidly - as opposed to in proprietary platforms like Microsoft Windows or Apple OS X.

Actually that doesn't explain how the tv was able to connect to the internet without having access to an internet connection, unless you are saying that the tv has a direct 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from which is very unlikely.

Only the original poster knows whether his television set is connected to the Internet or not. Many modern TVs - i.e. so-called smart TVs - have provisions for connecting to either a cable modem or (A)DSL connection directly via a UTP cable and possibly a switch, or to do this via a WiFi LAN connection.

It doesn't need "a 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from", because that's not how computer network traffic works. Smart TVs running under a Linux-based operating system - whether it's GNU/Linux or an Android variant - can run a so-called cron daemon, which is a scheduler process. This cron daemon can schedule all kinds of events, and one of those may very well be - this is actually even most likely the case - a program which contacts a firmware repository at Samsung's website for updates, and if present, downloads and installs those. [...]


~my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

In the above quote its clearly stated he did not give it the password to his internet.

What makes you think that one needs to enter a password anywhere to get access to the Internet? I don't have to enter any passwords on my UTP-connected computers anywhere to access the Internet. I do on the other hand need to supply a password - which gets stored in the phones themselves and which is of course also stored in the wireless router - for letting my phones access my WiFi, because I have set my WiFi up with secured access and WPA encryption.

But that said, at least one of the wireless networks here in this building with only 7 apartments is wide open and accessible by my own wireless devices - not that I myself would want to take advantage of that - and it is not unthinkable that the original poster may have several open wireless networks in the vicinity of his home.

Still, the original poster did not state that he had a wireless network. His television may very well be connected to his (cable or DSL) modem via a UTP cable, and in that case it does not need any password in order to install updates. I have already illustrated higher up how my digital television decoder updates itself, and although it is a slightly different process - "push", rather than "pull" - that one does not require any passwords anywhere either for its Internet access (which is by UTP).



The rest of what you wrote is just a reiteration of your original post with some knowledge of how a scheduler works and the mention of a couple of programming languages thrown in, [...

Not a reiteration but an elaboration. Is there some bizarre reason why you would have a problem with that?



...] yes they schedule updates but unless the wifi is set up or a ethernet network cable (UTP cable) is connected and a password has been entered it will never be able to connect to the internet in order to get the scheduled updates.

There is no need for a password anywhere unless the connection is secured, and cabled (UTP) connections do not need that kind of security. All they need is an IP address and a gateway. Whether a wireless LAN ("local area network") requires a password or not depends on whose WLAN it is and how they set it up. See my comment higher up about the non-secured wireless network of one of my neighbors.



The 24/7 connection I was referring to would be like the TV having a mobile phone incorporated in to it so it didn't need a home internet connection to achieve its updates and would be able to connect at any time although the user would have to change the time in the scheduler if another time was desired, but the likelihood of this is not high at all.

On that I agree. Unless you had your house broken into by the NSA, that scenario is not very likely.

Addendum for the original poster: Ethernet traffic via a localized and isolated power grid is possible - I have such a setup in my home via two power line adapters - but sending such traffic over the wider power grid from within your own home and its isolated local grid would be very hard to accomplish, plus that it would also be futile because of the "chatter" on the wider grid. There's just too much interference for the data to be able to be sent reliably to wherever Samsung's servers are.

[Bongo]

~WTF? ... my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

Just saw by "accident" a dim message on my tuned off 32inch LCD-TV a moving bar with 100% "software updating complete" ... how is that possible? Weird!

Normally I pull the 220volt plug every-time when I am finished watching TV, today I forgot!


Samsung's new TVs run an operating system based upon a Linux kernel - presumably it's a version of Android specifically for TVs. This software, like all other software, contains bugs and possible security leaks. The operating system is therefore set up to regularly check for updates and bugfixes, and to download those automatically if applicable and available.

I agree that the fact that this happens in the background and without the user's consent would cause an alarm to go off in most user's minds, but I'm sure that if you read the manual - which may have been printed on dead trees or supplied with the TV on a CD-/DVD-ROM - it will explain this mechanism of self-updating.

Of course, one has to actually read the manual, and most people don't even bother with that anymore these days. ;-)

If you don't trust the software, then at least have some faith in the millions of Free & Open Source Software developers out there, because the operating system running on those TVs is indeed Free & Open Source Software, so the source code is visible and open to scrutiny. That is how the bugs get spotted and fixed so rapidly - as opposed to in proprietary platforms like Microsoft Windows or Apple OS X.

Actually that doesn't explain how the tv was able to connect to the internet without having access to an internet connection, unless you are saying that the tv has a direct 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from which is very unlikely.

Only the original poster knows whether his television set is connected to the Internet or not. Many modern TVs - i.e. so-called smart TVs - have provisions for connecting to either a cable modem or (A)DSL connection directly via a UTP cable and possibly a switch, or to do this via a WiFi LAN connection.

It doesn't need "a 24/7 connection to where it gets its updates from", because that's not how computer network traffic works. Smart TVs running under a Linux-based operating system - whether it's GNU/Linux or an Android variant - can run a so-called cron daemon, which is a scheduler process. This cron daemon can schedule all kinds of events, and one of those may very well be - this is actually even most likely the case - a program which contacts a firmware repository at Samsung's website for updates, and if present, downloads and installs those. [...]


~my big Samsung LCD TV screen updates software in "standby mode" to the internet and I did NOT gave it permission NOR a password!

In the above quote its clearly stated he did not give it the password to his internet.

What makes you think that one needs to enter a password anywhere to get access to the Internet? I don't have to enter any passwords on my UTP-connected computers anywhere to access the Internet. I do on the other hand need to supply a password - which gets stored in the phones themselves and which is of course also stored in the wireless router - for letting my phones access my WiFi, because I have set my WiFi up with secured access and WPA encryption.

But that said, at least one of the wireless networks here in this building with only 7 apartments is wide open and accessible by my own wireless devices - not that I myself would want to take advantage of that - and it is not unthinkable that the original poster may have several open wireless networks in the vicinity of his home.

Still, the original poster did not state that he had a wireless network. His television may very well be connected to his (cable or DSL) modem via a UTP cable, and in that case it does not need any password in order to install updates. I have already illustrated higher up how my digital television decoder updates itself, and although it is a slightly different process - "push", rather than "pull" - that one does not require any passwords anywhere either for its Internet access (which is by UTP).



The rest of what you wrote is just a reiteration of your original post with some knowledge of how a scheduler works and the mention of a couple of programming languages thrown in, [...

Not a reiteration but an elaboration. Is there some bizarre reason why you would have a problem with that?



...] yes they schedule updates but unless the wifi is set up or a ethernet network cable (UTP cable) is connected and a password has been entered it will never be able to connect to the internet in order to get the scheduled updates.

There is no need for a password anywhere unless the connection is secured, and cabled (UTP) connections do not need that kind of security. All they need is an IP address and a gateway. Whether a wireless LAN ("local area network") requires a password or not depends on whose WLAN it is and how they set it up. See my comment higher up about the non-secured wireless network of one of my neighbors.



The 24/7 connection I was referring to would be like the TV having a mobile phone incorporated in to it so it didn't need a home internet connection to achieve its updates and would be able to connect at any time although the user would have to change the time in the scheduler if another time was desired, but the likelihood of this is not high at all.

On that I agree. Unless you had your house broken into by the NSA, that scenario is not very likely.

Addendum for the original poster: Ethernet traffic via a localized and isolated power grid is possible - I have such a setup in my home via two power line adapters - but sending such traffic over the wider power grid from within your own home and its isolated local grid would be very hard to accomplish, plus that it would also be futile because of the "chatter" on the wider grid. There's just too much interference for the data to be able to be sent reliably to wherever Samsung's servers are.


You are right about the cable connection to a router, only the router needs the password. I hold my hands up about that.


His television may very well be connected to his (cable or DSL) modem via a UTP cable



... and I have NO cable connection with TV on purpose!


Kind of narrows it down to wifi and it was all contained in the original post.

So an in depth explanation to a scheduler is really not necessary since he has said in the original post that he has no cable connected on purpose. The scheduler is why it would start to try to connect but it completing it needs a connection.

So wifi has to be the answer but even wifi TV's have to be set up first in order for it to know what connection to connect to which requires input from the TV user.

Check here, it shows that Samsungs setup does requires input from the user before it connects to a network.

http://www.myaccount.charter.com/customers/support.aspx?supportarticleid=3116

So input from the user is required to connect to an open connection (possibly a neighbours connection) so the TV recognises it as the connection to use which he did not give it permission to do by going in to setup to identify a connection.

[Frank V]

His television may very well be connected to his (cable or DSL) modem via a UTP cable



... and I have NO cable connection with TV on purpose!


Kind of narrows it down to wifi and it was all contained in the original post.


I seem to have somehow missed that the original poster wrote that.



So an in depth explanation to a scheduler is really not necessary since he has said in the original post that he has no cable connected on purpose. The scheduler is why it would start to try to connect but it completing it needs a connection.

So wifi has to be the answer but even wifi TV's have to be set up first in order for it to know what connection to connect to which requires input from the TV user.

That is correct. It would be rather dumb for Samsung to count on the owner of the television to have access to an unsecured WiFi network.



Check here, it shows that Samsungs setup does requires input from the user before it connects to a network.

http://www.myaccount.charter.com/customers/support.aspx?supportarticleid=3116

So input from the user is required to connect to an open connection (possibly a neighbours connection) so the TV recognises it as the connection to use which he did not give it permission to do by going in to setup to identify a connection.

In that case, I'm afraid I have no conclusive arguments on account of what the original poster witnessed on his television screen.

If it isn't connected to his LAN or cable/DSL modem via a UTP cable and he didn't set up a WLAN password in his television set, then there would normally be no way for that television set to download and install updates. Unless the TV is simply scanning for the first WiFi network it encounters and that happens to be an unsecure WLAN from one of the neighbors. I see no other possibility.

It will either way not be ethernet traffic via the power grid. That's simply not feasible for stuff that has to travel over the Internet.

Maybe the manual provides some kind of answer for what has manifested...?

[MorningFox]

The most obvious explanation is indeed that it connected to a free wi-fi signal in range, and did the updates through that. As belljoshua stated.

[Sunny-side-up]

We care defiantly not in our own control ha!

[ExomatrixTV]

Samsung ‘Smart TV’ Records “Personal” Conversations & Sends Them to Third Parties

http://www.infowars.com/samsung-smart-tv-records-personal-conversations-sends-them-to-third-parties/