Shock Claim From Ghana: Ebola Is Not Real

[angelfire]

I have no idea if this is from a verifiable source - thoughts?


http://www.politicalears.com/blog/shock-claim-from-ghana-ebola-is-not-real/

Ebola Is Not Real!

REASONS:

Most people jump to “depopulation” which is no doubt always on the mind of the West when it comes to Africa. But I assure you Africa can NEVER be depopulated by killing 160 people a day when thousands are born per day. So the real reasons are much more tangible.

Reason 1: This vaccine implemented sickness being “called” Ebola was introduced into West Africa for the end goal of getting troops on the ground in Nigeria, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. If you remember America was just trying to get into Nigeria for “Boko Haram” #BULL**** but that fell apart when Nigerians started telling the truth. There ARE NO GIRLS MISSING. Global support fell through the floor, and a new reason was needed to get troops into Nigeria and steal the new oil reserves they have discovered.

Reason 2: Sierra Leone is the World’s Largest Supplier of Diamonds. For the past 4 months they have been on strike, refusing to provide diamonds due to horrible working conditions and slave pay. The West will not pay a fair wage for the resources because the idea is to keep these people surviving on rice bags and foreign aid so that they remain a source of cheap slave labor forever. A reason was also needed to get troops on the ground in Sierra Leone to force an end to the diamond miners strikes. This is not the first time this has been done. When miners refuse to work troops are sent in and even if they have to kill and replace them all, the only desire is to get diamonds back flowing out of the country.
Of course to launch multiple campaigns to invade these countries separately would be way too fishy. But something like “Ebola” allows access to an entire area simultaneously…

Reason 3: In addition to stealing Nigerian oil, and forcing Sierra Leone back to mining, troops have also been sent in to FORCE vaccinations (Deadly “Ebola” Poison) onto those Africans who are not foolish enough to take them willingly.

3000 troops are being sent in to make sure that this “poison” continues to spread, because again it is only spread through vaccination. As more and more news articles are released as they have been in Liberia, informing the populous of the US lies and manipulation, more and more Africans are refusing to visit the Red Cross. Troops will force these vaccinations upon the people to ensure the visible appearance of an Ebola pandemic. In addition to this they will protect the Red Cross from the Liberians and Nigerians who have been rightfully ejecting them from their countries.

Reason 4: Last but not least, the APPEARANCE of this Ebola “pandemic” (should Americans not catch on) will be used to scare the countless millions into taking an “Ebola vaccine” which in reality is the pandemic. Already they have started with stories of how it has been brought to the U.S. and has appeared in Dallas, how white doctors were c ured but black infected are not being allowed to be treated, etc.

ALL that will do is make blacks STRIVE to get the vaccine, because it appears that the “cure” is being held back from blacks. They will run out in droves to get it and then there will be serious problems. With all we have seen revealed about vaccines this year you would think we learned our lesson. All I can do is hope so, Because they rely on our ignorance to complete their agendas.

Ask yourself: If Ebola really was spread from person to person, instead of controlled spread through vaccination – then WHY would the CDC and the US Government continue to allow flights in and out of these countries with absolutely no regulation, Or At All? We have got to start thinking and sharing information globally because they do not give the true perspective of the people who live here in West Africa. They are lying for their own benefit and there aren’t enough voices out there with a platform to help share our reality. Hundreds of thousands have been killed, paralyzed and disabled by these and other “new” vaccines all over the world and we are finally becoming aware of it. Now what will we do with all this information?

[MorningFox]

Already been posted here - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75907-African-Doctor-Red-Cross-Injections-Made-People-Sick-Not-Ebola-It-Isn-t-Real

[Matt P]

I'd be fine having this posted every day just to balance out all the BS. This exactly explains how, historically, diseases have been spread and how we use lies and hype to get people to willingly inject poison into their veins and to get our troops into brown-skinned countries.
Thanks angelfire!

Matt

[angelfire]

Apologies for repeating this post but I agree Mpennery, it does help put things into perspective!

[MorningFox]

I'm not discounting it, but is there any proof that they've already been injecting people in Africa? If so, with what? (what is it officially, anyway)

[sigma6]

I'd be fine having this posted every day just to balance out all the BS. This exactly explains how, historically, diseases have been spread and how we use lies and hype to get people to willingly inject poison into their veins and to get our troops into brown-skinned countries.
Thanks angelfire! Matt

Ditto, same old, same old, if it's not broken don't fix it, dress it up with a little PR, a few bribes, a few well placed threats, a good cover story, and if you can't get a real epidemic started just keep paying people to pose like they are sick, until you can get the Red Cross to distribute enough GSK vaccines into the patsies about to take the fall... and GSK would be your best go-to "vaccine maker", the ones who "accidentally made a batch of H1N1 that killed ferrets in the Czech Republic, and accidentally poured 45 liters of polio virus into a river in Belgium. That's called 'seeding' for future investments... probably a punishment for non-compliance...)

Be sure to look for their hand in this...

[WhiteFeather]

I'd be fine having this posted every day just to balance out all the BS. This exactly explains how, historically, diseases have been spread and how we use lies and hype to get people to willingly inject poison into their veins and to get our troops into brown-skinned countries.
Thanks angelfire!

Matt

I agree. Good Point made. Should be bumped also till Ebola fizzles out like H1N1 did.

[Hervé]

The Ebola Breakout Coincided with UN Vaccine Campaigns (http://www.liberianobserver.com/commentaries/ebola-breakout-coincided-un-vaccine-campaigns)

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 23:58 admin
By: Yoichi Shimatsu (Courtesy: Rense.com)

The ebola pandemic began in late February in the former French colony of Guinea while UN agencies were conducting nationwide vaccine campaigns for three other diseases in rural districts. The simultaneous eruptions of this filovirus virus in widely separated zones strongly suggests that the virulent Zaire ebola strain (ZEBOV) was deliberately introduced to test an antidote in secret trials on unsuspecting humans.

The cross-border escape of ebola into neighboring Sierra Leone and Liberia indicates something went terribly wrong during the illegal clinical trials by a major pharmaceutical company. Through the lens darkly, the release of ebola may well have been an act of biowarfare in the post-colonial struggle to control mineral-rich West Africa

Earlier this year, rural residents eagerly stood in line to receive vaccinations from foreign-funded medical programs. Since the cover-up of the initial outbreak, however, panicked West Africans rural folk are terrified of any treatment from international aid programs for fear of a rumored genocide campaign. The mass hysteria is also fueled in a region traditionally targeted by Western pedophiles by the fact that filovirus survives longer in semen than in other body fluids, a point that resulted in murderous attacks on young men believed to be homosexuals. Ebola detonated fear and loathing, and perhaps that is exactly the intended objective of a destabilization strategy.

This ongoing series of investigative journalism reports on the ebola crisis exposes how West Africans are largely justified in their distrust of the Western aid agencies that unleashed, whether by mistake or deliberate intent, the most virulent virus known to man.

Guilt Without Doubt
A pair of earlier articles by this writer examined the British and American roles in developing ebola into a biological weapon and its antidotes into commercial products. This third essay examines the strange coincidence of the earliest breakout in Guinea with three major vaccine campaigns conducted by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the UN children’s agency UNICEF. At least two of the vaccination programs were implemented by Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF, or Doctors Without Borders), while some of those vaccines were produced by Sanofi Pasteur, a French pharmaceutical whose major shareholder is the Rothschild Group.

[...]

Full article: http://www.liberianobserver.com/commentaries/ebola-breakout-coincided-un-vaccine-campaigns



http://www.liberianobserver.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/Submitted%20by%20Cholo%20Brooks%20on%20Sun_web.jpg

Yoichi Shimatsu, a Thailand-based science writer, organized public-health seminars by leading microbiologists and herbalists during the SARS outbreak in Hong Kong and the avian influenza crisis across Southeast Asia.

[Matt P]

I'm not discounting it, but is there any proof that they've already been injecting people in Africa? If so, with what? (what is it officially, anyway)

You don't typically get "official" proof while the op is ongoing. These programs are likely classified. The proof you get is the resulting outbreaks, i.e. the experience of the people in the areas where vaccine programs go into, which always eventually trickles out. But remember, western media is just as big a part of the fake reality control matrix as the pharmaceutical cartels and you are NOT going to hear about harmful effects of vaccine bioweapon programs on CNN, FOX, from the CDC, NIH, WHO or any of the others. Important also to remember there is no beneficial purpose for vaccines. This must frame your understanding of current events. Vaccines are disease delivery systems. So ANY time you hear about somebody going in to Africa to "help the poor" with vaccines you should recognize that as a bioweapon program, not a humanitarian program, always meant to spread disease. And we all know they've been going into Africa to administer vaccines for a loooooong time.

Matt

[heyokah]

I'm not discounting it, but is there any proof that they've already been injecting people in Africa? If so, with what? (what is it officially, anyway)

Here might be an answer:It could be done by poisoning their wells.

http://www.liberianobserver.com/security/breaking-formaldeyde-water-allegedly-causing-ebola-symptoms

[update]
Removed text.
See mpennery's post 11.

[Matt P]

[edit: well, as soon as I posted, I saw someone beat me to it. Moderators, feel free to delete this. Thanks. Matt]

Double bump Amzer Zo. Thanks!
I went to that source and noticed a new breaking news story.

http://www.liberianobserver.com/security/breaking-formaldeyde-water-allegedly-causing-ebola-symptoms

Notice: he was paid to put the formaldehyde in wells and locals are noticing disease and death after vaccinations.

BREAKING: Formaldeyde in Water Allegedly Causing Ebola-like Symptoms
Sat, 08/02/2014 - 13:56 admin
By:
Observer Staff

A man in Schieffelin, a community located in Margibi County on the Robertsfield Highway, has been arrested for attempting to put formaldehyde into a well used by the community.

Reports say around 10 a.m., he approached the well with powder in a bottle. Mobbed by the community, he confessed that he had been paid to put formaldeyde into the well, and that he was not the only one. He reportedly told community dwellers, “We are many.” There are are agents in Harbel, Dolostown, Cotton Tree and other communities around the ountry, he said.

State radio, ELBC, reports that least 10 people in the Dolostown community have died after drinking water from poisoned wells.

The man also alleged that some water companies, particularly those bagging mineral water to sell, are also involved. The poison, he said, produces Ebola-like symptoms and subsequently kills people.

The Observer had previously been informed that people dressed as nurses were going into communities with 'Ebola Vaccines'. Once injected, it reportedly produces Ebola-like symptoms and sends victims into a coma. Shortly thereafter, victims expire. Communities are now reportedly chasing vaccine peddlers out of their communities. After 10 children reportedly died from the 'vaccine' in Bensonville, the peddlers were reportedly chased out of the community upon their next visit.

It is possible that the 'vaccine' is/was composed of the same formaldehyde-water mixture. This publication has received reports from families whose loved ones' organs were missing upon return of the bodies to the families. Families suspect an organ trafficking operation is capitalizing on the outbreak of the Ebola virus in Liberia.

The district's representative condemned the act as barbaric, but called upon Liberians not to doubt the existence of the Ebola virus in the country.

An investigation is ongoing.

[MorningFox]

I'm not discounting it, but is there any proof that they've already been injecting people in Africa? If so, with what? (what is it officially, anyway)

You don't typically get "official" proof while the op is ongoing. These programs are likely classified. The proof you get is the resulting outbreaks, i.e. the experience of the people in the areas where vaccine programs go into, which always eventually trickles out. But remember, western media is just as big a part of the fake reality control matrix as the pharmaceutical cartels and you are NOT going to hear about harmful effects of vaccine bioweapon programs on CNN, FOX, from the CDC, NIH, WHO or any of the others. Important also to remember there is no beneficial purpose for vaccines. This must frame your understanding of current events. Vaccines are disease delivery systems. So ANY time you hear about somebody going in to Africa to "help the poor" with vaccines you should recognize that as a bioweapon program, not a humanitarian program, always meant to spread disease. And we all know they've been going into Africa to administer vaccines for a loooooong time.

Matt

Well as ever, thanks for talking to me as if it's my first day on Avalon ;)

Fortunately I'm very much aware of all of that, I just wondered what proof there was out there, even if it's just testimonies from Africans, that they've been injecting them. Lots of people keep suggesting it's the vaccines they've been giving them that are resulting in illness, and I don't doubt it actually, but I just wondered what proof and evidence there is available out there.

For the specific purpose of convincing someone, unlike myself, who none of that makes any sense to. Being that I've been researching the subject of global control for at least a decade, I'm perfectly open to the possibilities of such statements.

Unfortunately many other people aren't, and I was hoping there was at least tangible evidence that they've been injecting people.

[heyokah]

Here's some more about those wells.

Liberia: Ebola - Public Water Source Closed Over Poisoning Scare

The caretaker of a public water source in neighborhood of Lakapzee Community, Sinkor, Monrovia, has closed the hand pump on most of the neighbors' belief that somebody had poured a deadly chemical into the water underneath the hand pump.

The action was taken around 7am of Friday, August 16.

The caretaker, Mr. Wendellson Freeman, who said he's an official of the Public Health Department of the Ministry of Health and Social Welfare, gave order to his daughter to chain the pump's fulcrum to stop it from pumping water out.

Dozens of empty buckets for many members of the neighborhood were swarmed around the pump when the closure-order was given.

"Nobody will draw water until a health officer had inspected the water and announced it safe for use," he said to those with water containers around the hand pump. "I will get the health official Monday," he assured to who didn't get water and wanted to know when the water pump would be unchained.

However, the Ministry of Health official washed his face and his mouth with the water his children fetched on the day he ordered the pumped locked on fear of water poisoning. "I put my finger into the hole, smelled the finger, but perceived nothing like chemical," he said to this writer, another resident of the Henry Andrews Avenue, who asked if he wasn't waiting for the expected health inspector's go-ahead instruction before using the water.

Residents who came out to fetch water from the hand pump the next day, Saturday, met the machine on chain as it had been the previous day.

The water pump is located in the Henry Andrews Avenue, named after former Director of Liberia Petroleum Refining Company (LPRC), and is few meters from P.A's House, a popular restaurant operated by his wife, Patricia Andrews.

At 6am of Friday, Mr. Wendellson Freeman's daughter, Kamah, notice the concrete slab cemented to a tiny space or hole for pouring of water-purifying chemical (chlorine) into the water removed and left at the mouth of the hole. "It wasn't like this," she said to the first people who came out to fetch water during the early hours of Friday, August 16.



One of the person spoken to assumed that the lid was removed by somebody who may have intentionally dropped deadly chemical (Formaldehyde) in the water as other people had done in other places, according to reports during recent times. The reports indicate that some persons were caught while pouring the dead body's preservation chemical (Formaldehyde) into public Wells. Some persons the action was to cause mass death that would be blamed on the Ebola virus.

Few weeks later, the Liberia National Police, who arrested the suspects and conducted investigation, refuted claims that the suspected persons' action was related to Ebola's death.

In three minutes, after the Henry Andrews Avenue resident's assumption of poisoning, the news of attempted water poisoning spread to homes in the neighborhood.

Most of those who got the news late about the removed slab expressed thought similar to that of those who Kamah told first about it.

The pandemonium that later ensued caused panic and pushed the Ministry of Health official, Mr. Wendellson Freeman, order the pump chained immediately.

The container base of the hand pump is one of the meeting points of night-time lovers in the neighborhood. Some of them lean against the hand pump while playing love, causing friction to the concrete floor with their footwear.

About three weeks earlier, some early morning arrivals to the hand pump raised alarm at 6am over tilt of the hand pump. At the base of the hand pump was a bigger crack of concrete that had been keeping it standing straight into the ground. This happened during the height of panic of the Ebola virus in Liberia, which has killed more than 200 persons since March, when it entered the country from Guinea.

Some of the residents assumed the crack was by somebody who had dropped deadly chemical into the water. Others blamed it on one or two of the night-time lovers who frequent there every night.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201408170041.html

[Matt P]

I'm not discounting it, but is there any proof that they've already been injecting people in Africa? If so, with what? (what is it officially, anyway)

You don't typically get "official" proof while the op is ongoing. These programs are likely classified. The proof you get is the resulting outbreaks, i.e. the experience of the people in the areas where vaccine programs go into, which always eventually trickles out. But remember, western media is just as big a part of the fake reality control matrix as the pharmaceutical cartels and you are NOT going to hear about harmful effects of vaccine bioweapon programs on CNN, FOX, from the CDC, NIH, WHO or any of the others. Important also to remember there is no beneficial purpose for vaccines. This must frame your understanding of current events. Vaccines are disease delivery systems. So ANY time you hear about somebody going in to Africa to "help the poor" with vaccines you should recognize that as a bioweapon program, not a humanitarian program, always meant to spread disease. And we all know they've been going into Africa to administer vaccines for a loooooong time.

Matt

Well as ever, thanks for talking to me as if it's my first day on Avalon ;)

Fortunately I'm very much aware of all of that, I just wondered what proof there was out there, even if it's just testimonies from Africans, that they've been injecting them. Lots of people keep suggesting it's the vaccines they've been giving them that are resulting in illness, and I don't doubt it actually, but I just wondered what proof and evidence there is available out there.

For the specific purpose of convincing someone, unlike myself, who none of that makes any sense to. Being that I've been researching the subject of global control for at least a decade, I'm perfectly open to the possibilities of such statements.

Unfortunately many other people aren't, and I was hoping there was at least tangible evidence that they've been injecting people.

I wasn't speaking to "you" but more to the general "you", i.e. other readers who maybe it IS or close to their first day on PA or don't understand these topics. Funny to have you snap at me like that after the many posts of yours I've read. But, hey, I apologize if I gave the impression I was lecturing you. Not my intention at all. You (general you), or should I say a person sometimes forgets the other folks don't see a thought as clearly as the person having it and it isn't expressed as well as can be.
But I have to ask.....How can you say you've not seen proof of vaccines causing illness?? There have literally been volumes of books, articles, videos, personal experiences, etc., posted right here on this site. Recently. You've been a member for over 2 years. A quick PA search of vaccines shows multiple pages going back 4 years to this site's creation, with folks saying similar things to what we're saying today. And this isn't even a vaccine dedicated site, of which there are many. The evidence is everywhere.

Matt

[Hervé]

[...]

Unfortunately many other people aren't, and I was hoping there was at least tangible evidence that they've been injecting people.

Well, if you find any, then "they" have done a very sloppy job...

Anyway, you can still have a chat with Jake:


I have a close personal friend who has some experience with the original Ebola/Aids epidemic in Africa. He was attached to a medical unit that was providing 'vaccines' and 'treatments' for quite a large number of African locales. Long story, short: They were not administering a vaccine, they were injecting them with an unknown formula designed to kill them. ALL OF THEM. My buddy drinks heavily to this very day. It is the most dreadful thing to witness. He did not sign up for anything like that,,, and there was no warning, and now he lives with tremendous guilt.

They were welcomed in on village with a celebration and a feast. The Whole community opened up to them and celebrated the U.S. coming to offer aid, supplies and 'medicine'... When they arrived,, there were thousands of spirited natives, bustling with life. When they left,,, they were all dead. All of them. A separate military unit dealt with the bodies, and they were flown into the next town.

This is no BS... I was going to interview him, but I had thought that the Ebola thing had gone away!!! :(

Here's some rub.... They were all given injections before this specific medical deployment... and guess what? Nobody in his unit caught Ebola or Aids...

Just this week, a white house press spokeswoman referred to the Ebola situation as an 'attack'... perhaps she mis-spoke. Perhaps it was Freudian... Who knows...?

Just thought I'd add to what is being discussed...

Jake

[MorningFox]

I wasn't speaking to "you" but more to the general "you", i.e. other readers who maybe it IS or close to their first day on PA or don't understand these topics. Funny to have you snap at me like that after the many posts of yours I've read. But, hey, I apologize if I gave the impression I was lecturing you. Not my intention at all. You (general you), or should I say a person sometimes forgets the other folks don't see a thought as clearly as the person having it and it isn't expressed as well as can be.
But I have to ask.....How can you say you've not seen proof of vaccines causing illness?? There have literally been volumes of books, articles, videos, personal experiences, etc., posted right here on this site. Recently. You've been a member for over 2 years. A quick PA search of vaccines shows multiple pages going back 4 years to this site's creation, with folks saying similar things to what we're saying today. And this isn't even a vaccine dedicated site, of which there are many. The evidence is everywhere.

Matt

Haha, humble as ever :rolleyes:

I was talking specifically about Africa in the past month or two. :)

[waves]

[QUOTE=mpennery;889393][QUOTE=MorningFox;889380]I'm not discounting it, but is there any proof that they've already been injecting people in Africa? If so, with what? (what is it officially, anyway)



You don't typically get "official" proof while the op is ongoing...

Matt


Well as ever, thanks for talking to me as if it's my first day on Avalon ;)

Unfortunately many other people aren't, and I was hoping there was at least tangible evidence that they've been injecting people.

Morning Fox, we would just as much like to see your tangible evidence and proof that they haven't been injecting people with the virus.

[MorningFox]

hahahaha :rolleyes:

If you'd have read my posts properly you'd have seen that I too suspect they have been injecting people.

Calm down, I'm on your side.

[Hervé]

The Idiotic Explanation Why The "Idiot With The Clipboard" Was Unprotected (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-16/idiotic-explanation-why-idiot-clipboard-was-unprotected)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 10/16/2014 11:21 -0400


Phoenix Air has released a statement explaining why the now infamous non-HazMat-wearing 'clipboard man' seen in close proximity to Dallas Ebola patient Amber Vinson (while the rest of the members of staff are fully protected) was unprotected... and it will blow your mind.

Why is "Clipboard Man" not wearing protective gear?


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/10/20141016_ebola3_0.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/10/20141016_ebola3.jpg)


Phoenix Air responds (via ABC News) (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/clipboard-man-hazmat-suit/story?id=26235850)...
The airline confirmed to ABC News that the man was their medical protocol supervisor who was purposefully not wearing protective gear.

"Our medical professionals in the biohazard suits have limited vision and mobility and it is the protocol supervisor’s job to watch each person carefully and give them verbal directions to insure no close contact protocols are violated," a spokesperson from Phoenix Air told ABC News said.

"There is absolutely no problem with this and in fact insures an even higher level of safety for all involved," the spokesperson said.

* * *


So - in summary - due to the restrictive vision when wearing an Ebola-protective suit, one member of staff must be sacrificed/exposed to ensure no one trips?

And these are who we are supposed to trust?

[sdv]

Please stop this Ebola hysteria.

Did you know that in 2011, 54 000 people died from TB in South Africa? I do not know what the current figures are (but I do know that no cure has been discovered for multi-drug resistant TB, and I do know that South Africa has the highest rate in the world for new HIV infections and multi-drug resistant TB), but consider this:

(1) South Africa is not a basket case African country as are the African countries fighting Ebola at present (by the way, Africa is a very large CONTINENT, and not a country) and so I have no fears about the Ebola virus coming to South Africa (if an Ebola infected person manages to get through our porous borders, the disease will not spread, but will be contained, as it was in the past);

(2) multi-drug resistant TB not only kills many thousands of people every year, but is airborne and thus is transmitted through coughing and sneezing, and people with TB DO cough (by the way, sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and though coughing has been spoken about as a symptom, I have yet to see or read about an actual Ebola sick person coughing ... it is not like a cold, so you do not have mucous in the lungs that you expel through coughing and sneezing ... you get a high temperature, fever, have body aches, immense tiredness and weakness, and a headache as the initial symptoms and then you develop diarrohea and vomiting, and then you have bleeding and organ failure), yet I have no fear in commuting on overcrowded trains in the area of South Africa where that strain of TB is most prevalent (healthy, well nourished people have strong enough immune systems to overcome TB) because I am pragmatic ... (multi-drug resistant TB is more easily spread than Ebola, but takes longer to kill and is restricted to the poor who do not have the means to travel and thus the disease spreads among poor and marginalized communities who live in overcrowded conditions and have poor nutrition and inadequate sanitary living conditions);

(3) Ebola is only transmitted through bodily contact with a person who is symptomatic, so you need to actually touch a person who is sick with Ebola (or their corpse, or a surface that they have touched) and what is emerging is that health care workers in the USA who have contracted the virus were not fully protected by gear (see how they are doing it in Africa) and did not follow the required decontamination procedures after contact with an infected sick person (see how they do it in Africa, including a careful protocol of taking off protective gear in a specific order with the help of another person and spraying ... where are the decontamination shower facilities and buddy system in the USA ... how often do we put our hand to our mouth or eyes or nose without thinking and then you realize how easy it is to let a very aggressive virus get access to your body).

Please stop this panic about Ebola. Even if you are an a plane with someone who is sick with Ebola, you will not contract the virus if you do not touch the person and do not touch any surface that the person has touched.

Stopping the spread of Ebola in Africa is about more than finding an effective treatment (known about decades ago but no financial incentive to develop) or treating sick people in Africa now (by the way, the actual percentage of deaths is higher than estimated because many deaths are not being officially recorded) ... the real message is that these basket case countries need assistance and guidance in uplifting themselves through education and development.

Lastly, I would like to give my opinion that although it seems harsh and uncaring, these countries should have been quarantined and health workers who go to these countries to help should accept a 3-week quarantine period before returning home (and anyone else who wants to travel from these countries). It seems harsh but if there was political will, such a quarantine centre could easily set up (a sort of way station where anyone wanting to leave these 3 countries has to spend 3 weeks and get a clean bill of health before moving on.) The global community has the resources to create such a quarantine place that allows full access to phones, Internet and e-mail and houses people in comfort. Am I crazy to suggest that this would have been an easy and affordable way to stop the spread of Ebola outside Africa?

Please stop the panic. You are not going to get Ebola. Your community is not going to be infected with Ebola. However, this epidemic does give the whole world an opportunity to look realistically at global risks and find solutions that we can implement in a humane way, and to look at dealing with the problem of the fastest-growing population in the world (Africa) being the most backward in terms of education and development and self-sufficiency and stability (even Ebola will not slow down the population explosion).

PS Do any of you even know where Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone are, what their history is, what their current circumstances are? Do you understand why these three countries are a perfect place for this virus to take hold and spread? Do you understand why this virus spread to Nigeria and was contained in that country? Do you understand the history of Ebola and why outbreaks have been able to be contained before this outbreak (rural versus urban)?

Please stop panicking and rather be realistically informed.

[sheme]

This is a Truther forum -we find out /stop nothing by letting stuff happen without protest. These are the rules -you let them know you are watching them - that nothing can be done to the innocent without the ptw being made accountable one day.

We have stopped/slowed down so much already- we may be the difference between humanity continuing or leaving our Mother Earth forever.

SDV If the stuff here disturbs you I am sorry, but please remember the ptw don't want us to talk about their stuff either.

[sdv]

I am not disturbed and not in panic about Ebola at all (and not even in panic about multi-drug resistant TB or HIV, both of which kill far more people in Africa, and especially in the part of Africa where I live).

I am appealing for common sense and real learning and a constructive and realistic response to Ebola. That is the truth.

I do not think I am being unreasonable and ill informed in saying that the protocols for decontamination are understood and need to be meticulously adhered to and have not been. (Most of the health care workers who have been infected and died have been Africans, who tend to be tactile people and so it is automatic for Africans to be more likely to touch their faces when under sever emotional stress, such as would be invoked by being confined within all that protective gear in oppressively hot and humid circumstances and in the emotional challenge of trying to take care of dying people form whom you have no cure and no proper facilities ... did you notice that most patients lie on the floor and do not have drips for basic hydration?)

Perhaps you so want this to be some kind of conspiracy controlled by a powerful group of people so that you do not have to consider any responsibility. If you had to accept responsibility, you would have to interrogate and campaign for a humane but absolute quarantine for every person leaving those three African countries where the virus is spreading. If you had to accept responsibility, you would have to be informed about these three African countries and ask hard questions about financial aid and the effect of that aid. To be informed would be to understand that the potential of an effective vaccine was discovered decades ago but was never developed.

I am not sure what you are trying to say to me, but I do see a lot of threads about Ebola, all stirring up panic and hysteria. What purpose does this serve? Does it change those basket case African countries? Does it effectively quarantine this virus? Does it implement effective protocols in dealing with this virus outside of Africa?

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am not sure what you are trying to say to me, but I do see a lot of threads about Ebola, all stirring up panic and hysteria. What purpose does this serve? Does it change those basket case African countries? Does it effectively quarantine this virus? Does it implement effective protocols in dealing with this virus outside of Africa?

I posted this link becuase I too have been following various posts on ebola where there definitely does seem to be a growing sense of panic and mounting hysteria which to my mind is not what i consider a true representation of PA members' views and the link was my humble attempt to offset some of the fears that have been expressed recently on the forum.
I don't know whether the original post is verifiable, as I said, but many thanks to those who have posted valuable info here regarding highly questionable vaccination programmes and the possible poisoning of wells. I'd like to think that some good may come of this for Africa yet through questioning vaccine programmes and improving hygiene, diet and sanitation - call me naive if you like.

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am not sure what you are trying to say to me, but I do see a lot of threads about Ebola, all stirring up panic and hysteria. What purpose does this serve? Does it change those basket case African countries? Does it effectively quarantine this virus? Does it implement effective protocols in dealing with this virus outside of Africa?

I posted this link becuase I too have been following various posts on ebola where there definitely does seem to be a growing sense of panic and mounting hysteria which to my mind is not what i consider a true representation of PA members' views and the link was my humble attempt to offset some of the fears that have been expressed recently on the forum.
I don't know whether the original post is verifiable, as I said, but many thanks to those who have posted valuable info here regarding highly questionable vaccination programmes and the possible poisoning of wells. I'd like to think that some good may come of this for Africa yet through questioning vaccine programmes and improving hygiene, diet and sanitation - call me naive if you like.

Am not sure what you mean by a link?

And, no, you do not present yourself as naive!

A virus is not human. Who knows what created this virus, but once created it is driven by a fundamental desire to continue surviving by spreading. It needs a host to survive. It is so virulent that it has a very high chance of killing the host within three weeks. To survive and ensure long-term survival, it thus needs to be virulent in spreading to other hosts. It is a basic being that was created and is driven by a basic desire to continue to exist, and to do so, it must spread, easily and quickly.

Does it really matter who created this virus?

We know that it kills most hosts very quickly (survivors only potentially spread it through semen and have some kind of immunity that we can develop to treat others by identifying the key immune response and giving it to everyone) but we also know that we can stop the virus from spreading from one person to the next.

It's just my personal view, but I think that despite the publicized play acting of readiness (actors playing as patients, and so on ... by the way, we are not doing this in Africa because we really do not have to do elaborate role plays to understand something simple such as covering up effectively, being effectively decontaminated, and so on!), the response from the LEADERS of the developed, wealthy and advanced world have been pathetic. You are so powerful (LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD and so on), but you did not recognize how virulent this virus is (it has to be to survive) and create a humane quarantine system for all people travelling from the countries where this virus is spreading? (Taking temperatures at airports? A person can be carrying the virus and not yet be sick and thus seem ok!) You did not develop safe protocols from on-the-ground experiences from people dealing with the virus in Africa? (You don't ensure that all skin is covered for all people who interact with people who have the virus and do not have a contamination area where people have to be hosed down and undress according to a strict protocol and with the aid of a buddy?)

Forget about the conspiracy theories. This virus is deadly and very virulent, but it is also crude and easily understood and defeated. It is not like multi-drug resistant TB (i.e. is not spread through the air by coughing) or the common cold (spread through sneezing, and so on). People with Ebola have a high fever and so they sweat and if you touch them, the virus gets onto your skin and finds a way into your body. At a later stage, people with Ebola have diarrohea and vomiting ... all bodily fluids that are filled with the virus. (It is similar to the HIV virus, but kills much more quickly and thus needs to be more aggressive in transmission.) Ebola is horrific because it kills so quickly (TB, HIV/AIDS and malaria kill far more but much slower). As a virus, it will mutate, but the protocols for eradicating it are actually very do-able, before it evolves into a more effective virus that can transcend its biggest disadvantage (that it kills the host very quickly and thus must find a new host quickly, or, in failing to kill the host, creates immunity, which gives us the ability to eradicate it).

As a liberal African, what I am proposing is horrific, but we live in a global world and we need to consider quarantine in a global context, and then we need to force education on countries that allow conditions for such a crude but virulent virus spread, survive and grow.