Do subatomic particles have free will

[mike1414]

interesting article -
If we have free will, so do subatomic particles, mathematicians claim to prove.“If the atoms never swerve so as to originate some new movement that will snap the bonds of fate, the everlasting sequence of cause and effect—what is the source of the free will possessed by living things throughout the earth?”—Titus Lucretius Carus, Roman philosopher and poet, 99–55 BC.

Human free will might seem like the squishiest of philosophical subjects, way beyond the realm of mathematical demonstration. But two highly regarded Princeton mathematicians, John Conway and Simon Kochen, claim to have proven that if humans have even the tiniest amount of free will, then atoms themselves must also behave unpredictably.

The finding won’t give many physicists a moment’s worry, because traditional interpretations of quantum mechanics embrace unpredictability already. The best anyone can hope to do, quantum theory says, is predict the probability that a particle will behave in a certain way.

But physicists all the way back to Einstein have been unhappy with this idea. Einstein famously grumped, “God does not play dice.” And indeed, ever since the birth of quantum mechanics, some physicists have offered alternate interpretations of its equations that aim to get rid of this indeterminism. The most famous alternative is attributed to the physicist David Bohm, who argued in the 1950s that the behavior of subatomic particles is entirely determined by “hidden variables” that cannot be observed.
By Julie RehmeyerWeb edition : Friday, August 15th, 2008


http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/35391/title/Do_subatomic_particles_have_free_will%3F

peace always
mike

[stardustaquarion]

Hi Mike, I find the subject tantalising and refreshing! I think the problem is that things are being observed in isolation without considering the natural laws that the universe have as a whole but I can personally as an empirical observer with both statements. It seems logical to me that if there is free will it has to apply even to the tiniest particle, so from my own conclusions I think that everything has free will. Now I also agree that God or Source does not play dice, meaning that there are laws of energy management that applies to all, like the law of cause effect and consequence.

Thank you for this info :wave:

[mike1414]

Hi Mike, I find the subject tantalising and refreshing! I think the problem is that things are being observed in isolation without considering the natural laws that the universe have as a whole but I can personally as an empirical observer with both statements. It seems logical to me that if there is free will it has to apply even to the tiniest particle, so from my own conclusions I think that everything has free will. Now I also agree that God or Source does not play dice, meaning that there are laws of energy management that applies to all, like the law of cause effect and consequence.

Thank you for this info :wave:

your welcome...it is an interesting thought with big implications....

i personally believe that in order to make any choice, free will or not, one has to be self-aware...anything else reacts a program or directive from something else

then also the concept of free will is only a local phenomena imo.....nassim haramein touches upon this in more detail in his marathon lectures....

interesting tho...

peace always
mike

[terragunn]

Without spirit there is no free will.

As we are all of us still stuck in the computation Matrix and addicted to the Game, we all of us have multi-layers of programming – programming from concurrent (‘past’) incarnations, programming downloaded in the astral/etheric realms between incarnations, and programming that we accumulate and is downloaded during incarnations. The light-encoded software that houses these programmes is called the soul, which is a memory complex/record, what could be likened to as a hard disc drive. DNA itself is a programme (like the soul – a quantum programme) and is likewise programmable.

What makes biotic beings different from abiotic beings or entities is the spirit or life force (Source) energy that runs through their corporeal forms. It is the spirit that gives such free will and sovereignty, despite the programmed and programmable overlays. It is via the spirit that such programmes can be broken out of and dissolved.

As Creator beings of spirit co-creating with other Creator beings of spirit (I am talking about human beings), we would have difficulty controlling our thoughts without extreme disciplinary tutelage, in addition to, isolation from ‘outside’ influences. Denying thoughts (and ideas) is suppression of the spirit and will only lead to more suppression of the spirit. Thoughts themselves are not deeds. Thoughts in action, in intention and extreme focus and deliberation, are the only thoughts that have the potential to manifest in one’s ‘reality’. But we must not be blinded by such and absolve responsibility for such, as such thoughts in action, in intention and extreme focus and deliberation, may produce a detrimental effect on other Creator ‘realities’, and in turn, one’s own.

All of us have the free will to think and to focus on thoughts. All of us have the free will to choose how we wish to react to our thoughts, other’s thoughts, and our and other’s emotions. All of us have the free will to choose how we wish to react to challenging scenarios, situations, and environments presented to us. If one does not know and acknowledge this then one has given up one’s sovereignty.

As for astral entities (channelled beings) they are no more tricksters and deluded beings of consciousness than we are: ‘as above, so below’. And they do not come from ‘above’ or ‘below’, but rather, ‘in between’. In fact, if it were not for our manifestational abilities of creation via focused thought and belief – they would not exist.

We are the Creators. And although there are programmes to give us amnesia, and make us forget who and what we are – acknowledge and know that these programmes were created by us. Acknowledge and know that the Game – the computation Matrix – was created by us – the Users – not the archons/aeons/djinn/E.T.s/etc. These entities play their roles extremely well (and so they should as we created them); so well that we have forgotten who is who, and what is what.

We are our own jailers, and we have created our own jail: that of the mind.
But we always will – as beings of spirit – have free will to break out of our co-creational Maya 'reality' of the material plane and that of the astral ‘mind’ plane.

This choice is free will.

This choice is ours.

'Do subatomic particles have free will?'

This depends entirely on whether such subatomic particles have spirit running through them.

Subatomic particles can have consciousness and soul, but without spirit they have no life. Such are the 'living dead'.

Does this make sense to you?

[Carmody]

Subatomic particles have many (in-situ motional/vector) axis of freedom. They 'vibrate' (spin as well, thus wave particle) at various frequencies and thus combine in various geometric alignments which have secondary coupling effects.


The combinations therefore have a capacity for variance that approaches infinity at the same time there are set standards, or highly common geometric alignments.. like elements, lattice structure and then time/gravity, and so on.

in the resultant after effect we call timespace, we can also get residual, or secondary flow of the motive force (flow through), and in that we can find the thing we call spirit.