Headaches - a closer look?

[TigaHawk]

Alo again!

So last night i wake up early in the morning, with a headache. A trend with headaches, moreso specificly when waking up in the night with one is some odd things which i noticed go with headaches + waking up with them.

You're thinking goes... spastic? I'm going to have fun explaining this one... its like you're train of thought gets knocked around a fair bit. you're thinking about one thing, which is normal, then next you've taken the subject, turned it upside down, inverted it and are trying to look at it through you're nose.

I guess its hard to describe as its so sperattic/all over the place its not funny, and why this symptom only occurs when you wake up from a decent sleep with said headache? and not during the hours you're awake and develop a headache.


Has anyone else experienced this able to lend a hand in explaining? or am i alone in this one and stuck untill it happens again and i grab a pen and paper on the spot and not leave it to memory :S

i had a theory that it may be you're subconcious coming through a tad as you've just woken up from a deep sleep and the bloodflow in you're head's getting messed with by said constricted vein which is causing the headache?

tx for listening

[Operator]

Alo again!

So last night i wake up early in the morning, with a headache. A trend with headaches, moreso specificly when waking up in the night with one is some odd things which i noticed go with headaches + waking up with them.

You're thinking goes... spastic? I'm going to have fun explaining this one... its like you're train of thought gets knocked around a fair bit. you're thinking about one thing, which is normal, then next you've taken the subject, turned it upside down, inverted it and are trying to look at it through you're nose.

I guess its hard to describe as its so sperattic/all over the place its not funny, and why this symptom only occurs when you wake up from a decent sleep with said headache? and not during the hours you're awake and develop a headache.


Has anyone else experienced this able to lend a hand in explaining? or am i alone in this one and stuck untill it happens again and i grab a pen and paper on the spot and not leave it to memory :S

i had a theory that it may be you're subconcious coming through a tad as you've just woken up from a deep sleep and the bloodflow in you're head's getting messed with by said constricted vein which is causing the headache?

tx for listening

Unfortunately I am in the same boat ... and not even once in a while ... almost every night. Specialist have looked into it to no avail.
I noticed Cliff High mentioning a sinus head ache he had during a radio show (so he suffers from it too I guess because he talked about it as something regular).

When I fall deep asleep, especially when I am really really tired, I know I am in for a terrible morning. So I have to take care not to sleep to deep.
Which on the other hand could lead to sleep deprivation which can make you extremely tired and so goes the cycle ...

Somehow my sinuses get blocked ... sometimes it already happens wile I am still sitting up late at night ... so it's not because of a horizontal position.

One thing you could try is a thing called neti pot (http://www.google.com/search?q=nety+pot&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=BqG&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&&sa=X&ei=VM_OTISTIsGblgebnbTlCA&ved=0CBMQBSgA&q=neti+pot&spell=1&fp=2304850557947867)
I am not sure if it is anywhere on the websites or in the video ... but body fluid contains 0.9% Sodium-Chloride. In order to do things right you have to resolve 9 grams of kitchen salt in 1 liter of water.

You need to stick close to this value otherwise you might create other problems (dehydration or irritation).

Success ...

[Kulapops]

Interesting to figure out which direction your head is facing when you sleep and correlate that with Feng Shui. North is restful, but could be too restful depending on your lifestyle. East West I think can lead to nightmares, but South East is pretty cool and energising.

I think a lot is to do with taking on of energy while we sleep . The chinese call this Li energy. Sometimes if I wake in the morning my head can be clear, but if I don't sit up, the energy continues to circulate and can make 'thoughts' go round in your head like a washing machine, with a lack of logic. This could be the subconscious you are referring to. Best I know is to sit up soon after waking, and not try and get some 'good thinking time' in while lying prostrate.

Try experimenting with different head directions, and sit up after waking.

Hope that helps,

K

P.S. Operator, I also had sinus trouble for a while, but traced it down to drinking alcohol (causing enlargement of the nasal capiliaries) and eating crisps. Could this be the case for you? Seems to have abated now. I blame walker's ready salted crisps. Haven't touched them since!

[Operator]

P.S. and yes you're right my experiences lately are indeed like somebody/something is messing inside your brain. You kind have to fight you're own thoughts. It's not extreme thoughts or so,
just some ordinary stuff as flashes but twisted ... then a second later yo realize 'hold on that's not right' and then the next flash ...

I know what you mean, weird to talk about but you're not alone .... nobody would recognize anything like it until you experience it yourself.

[Operator]

P.S. Operator, I also had sinus trouble for a while, but traced it down to drinking alcohol (causing enlargement of the nasal capiliaries) and eating crisps. Could this be the case for you? Seems to have abated now. I blame walker's ready salted crisps. Haven't touched them since!

Thanks Kula for your reply.
Alcohol was indeed the first question on the specialist's list ... but nope I very rarely drink an occasional beer.

And strangely enough when I wake up with such a terrible headache I feel nauseous too, so there is a tendency not to eat. But that is actually making it worse.
Somehow salty stuff helps in my case. Bacon and eggs and/or salted peanuts etc. are part of a solution in my case.

Like Tigahawk said it's unusual and absolutely not understood by many. In my family they now know I am not kidding. If it is really bad they know they
have to leave me alone and let me get up in my own pace.

[Kulapops]

Just a thought operator... maybe the salt can have an effect on the sinuses though (like my ready salted crisps!)

totally get the entity/or whoever messing with your head thing though. I too had similar experiences. All better now though :)

Of course.. we just don't know what's going on in the world for real do we ? But I've a feeling that time will tell.

In the end , we'll probably know a lot more once we're dead

;)

lol....

[Terra]

Hi guys,

Just a thought.. have you noticed a change in weather patterns on the days you get the headaches?

Only reason I ask is I suffer badly from headaches and a pressure build up inside my head, I suffer from something similiar to Menieres Disease but without the hearing loss. When we get weather changes here it affects me too, I am convinced about this for me personally. A few years back, in 2003 I couldnt even put my head back on the pillow at night it hurt so much, I ended up in Southampton Neuro unit for a week whilst they ran tests. It wasnt till they did a lumbar puncture and checked my CSF pressure levels (Cerebral Spinal Fluid) that it eased up, for 10 whole days I was able to walk normally without vearing off to the left lol...maybe its all related, I dont know, nor do they as I am still not fixed. ;)

Other symptoms I get are bad balance, nausea, tinnitus and vertigo attacks. When I feel an attack coming on my brain freezes, I find it hard to think and speaking is in turn effected, just untill it all calms down then its back to normal with like a bad hangover feeling for a few days. It's like my words cant catch up with my brain, very odd and also annoying. I dont drink but I do find a little bit of the green herb helps with the pain if its really bad.

Like yourself Operator I have seen so many specialists over the years, have been to 5 hospitals in a search for a cure. Ended up at the Royal National Neuro in Queens Square where the final lead of enquiries led me to a Belgium migraine specialist there. My search ended when he said "there is so much to the brain we just do not understand still"....since then I have just got on with it, experimenting with anything natural that may help me, I will give anything a go once if it helps. Forget all the synthetic drugs they prescribe you, they just cause other problems down the line, not to say some people may get on well with what they take.

Peace

[nomadguy]

you may have a mineral deficiency, here is an example - http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/magnesium-migraines.html
also being mineral deficient can cause dehydration as well. AS your body begins processing things in an unbalanced way ~ "example - Sodium Mineral Deficiency Symptoms
Mineral deficiency symptoms may include :: dehydration..." - http://www.healthsupplementsnutritionalguide.com/mineral-deficiency-symptoms.html

More info here,
Dehydration and Mineral Depletion:

Dehydration, Balanced hydration is crucial to a healthy body - http://www.mcvitamins.com/dehydration.htm

About Mineral Deficiencies - http://www.vitamins-nutrition.org/vitamins/mineral-deficiencies.html

A Primal Primer: Iodine by Mark Sisson
"What is Iodine? - http://www.lewrockwell.com/spl2/iodine-deficiency.html
Iodine is a highly water-soluble trace element that’s rare in the earth’s crust, but fairly prevalent in its seas. Our bodies require it, for several reasons."

Identifying Mineral Deficiencies - http://1stholistic.com/nutrition/hol_nutr-def-symptoms.htm

Mineral Depletion also applies to the soil we grow our foods in:
Soil Mineral Depletion - http://www.physicalnutrition.net/soil-mineral-depletion.htm

Also the idea has come up in my circle that excess minerals in the atmosphere could cause this as a wide spread condition. IE chemtrails, water fluoridation, etc. Source - http://www.thetruthdenied.com/c2010/solutions_vs_gmod_morgellons.php

[Operator]

Like yourself Operator I have seen so many specialists over the years, have been to 5 hospitals in a search for a cure. Ended up at the Royal National Neuro in Queens Square where the final lead of enquiries led me to a Belgium migraine specialist there. My search ended when he said "there is so much to the brain we just do not understand still"....since then I have just got on with it, experimenting with anything natural that may help me, I will give anything a go once if it helps. Forget all the synthetic drugs they prescribe you, they just cause other problems down the line, not to say some people may get on well with what they take.


yeah right ...

Thanks for the reply Terra,

I noticed that the specialist tends to have no time at all for his patients. The only thing he wants is a quick buck ...
He uses trainee assistants to do the intake talk and then he takes 1 .. 2 minutes to go over the notes. He's very quick with proposing all kind of
operations, medicines and check-ups to keep the thing going ... You can really tell ... his office and entourage screams it at you.
Unfortunately there is not much of an alternative here ... I stayed away of all unnecessary stuff ... no experimenting on me.

My father was sensitive to weather. He always had an headache when snow was about to fall .... Not much chance of that here in the tropics :cool:
Well the weather is pretty stable here normally (although I can see the Tropical Storm Tomas roll in as we speak).

I can't remember where but I've read somewhere that the sun influences us individually and it may sound crazy but especially at night !
It's the rays that bend around the earth that influence you and that's why you should be asleep ...

With all the crazy sun activity going on that might be the relation. In my case I can be free of headaches for years ...
Interesting, coming to think of it. Maybe I should check if there are 11 year intervals ... :confused:

[conk]

Often waking up with a headache is symtomatic of sleep apnea. Lack of oxygen causes the headache. Do you know if you snore?

[Operator]

Often waking up with a headache is symtomatic of sleep apnea. Lack of oxygen causes the headache. Do you know if you snore?

Hi Conk, thanks for the answer ...

I know of that symptom ... also not the case (for me). I can get the headache starting before I go to sleep, sitting upright being awake (but tired).
Of course it's more usual that people will get headaches when tired ... but in my case it is the same type of headache.
It starts from the sinuses. They get irritated and something gets it blocked. The imbalance is then the next thing which probably causes the headache.
It should not be confused with something like having a blockage when having a cold or so, it's different.

There is a Chinese oil called 'white flower' (I think) ... if you rub it at the appropriate spots it will make your head glow ... it helps do dissolve whatever
is blocking the sinuses . You can feel it relieving almost immediately.

I hope all these suggestions help TigaHawk too ... as it was originally her thread.

[Ammit]

I want to ask if anyone is having trouble meditating??

I am no longer able to visualise and find it hard to meditate, visualisation for me was easy and verybrilliant, I can no longer visualize anything its like i just get static.....

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I want to ask if anyone is having trouble meditating??

I am no longer able to visualise and find it hard to meditate, visualisation for me was easy and verybrilliant, I can no longer visualize anything its like i just get static.....

I believe the difficulty in meditating is because new energy coming in is powerful and we haven't yet assimilated with it as yet; that being said, IMHO, one doesn't need to meditate for such long periods as before - we can tap in quicker. Sometimes just the knowing this, can make it happen.

OPERATOR: Sorry to go off thread, but actually I was going to suggest you meditate yourself to sleep. Music that you connect to can often helps - try to become one with the music, which will help you shift focus from headache thoughts. Erwin Laszlo (composer turned philosopher) has shown how music can rearrange parts of the brain. Chanting and music have been used forever to raise one's vibrations and the raising of one's vibrations helps one to heal. Worth a try. Good Luck!

[Ammit]

Ba ba ra, I was able to close my eyes and I was visualising whatever I wanted, i could visualise me sat in the chair visualising, i could rotate and zoom in too, believe it or not but i was able to discover i had a bald patch from this, no one had mentioned it before.....

Now I cannot and you cant believe how utterly P`d off I am about it.

[TigaHawk]

Alo again

I dont suffer from regular headaches - its a once in a blue moon thing. The main point of the thread is probabyl realy hard to see as its realy hard to describe :P

The point i was trying to get at is - when you wake up from a deep sleep and you have a headache - you're mind is different - you're thinking about 1 thing then bang something realy weird, unrelated and just quirky pops into you're head, or the such. And if possible to explore that part of a headache further. im not sure how one would do it, maybe wait for it to happen, have a list and think about stuff while you're mind's doing the funny thing and see if you get any funky results? like telling yourself to think on a particular subject and see if the headache-randomness part will make you think about something related, etc?


Like i could make it any harder for you guys tho, let's test something which we cant even describe and so far only 1 other person in the thread can relate too, hehe!

[Ammit]

Hi tigahawk, sorry to have changed the way the thread was meant to be, just thought it was a good time to ask.

This morning I woke with a thundering headache, very unusual, but then again I do think myself a little weired.
Did not dream at all last night either, I am either living a full life in the past or somewhere which feels futuristic, I wake up so tired like I have been awake all night actually living this dream.

Alcohol usually helps to knock me out but even then sometimes it has no effect and I dream things that I at my age could not posibly have any recolection of.

Like i said, im weired.

Blessings

Ammit

[witchy1]

Nursey here: guess you have all tried the obvious - on the practical side - New pillow (this will be some trial and error) / change the direction your bed is in your room (works for kids who have difficulty sleeping, are cranky or listless in the morning) had a decent back massage / I assume your c-spine xrays and blood pressure ok / keep the window closed at night - god only know whats lurking out there / watch what you eat before retiring / drink a glass of warm milk and honey be4 retiing / take a warm bath before retiring. Read a book before turning off the light. Oh and also get the amalgam out of your teeth.
When really tired you dont move about so much in bed so you head kinda gets stuck for lengths of time in one position....not very helpful
For sinus issues (which causes the ear issues) take MMS - it fixed me and should solve your thought process problems (specially if you have a build up of metals in the body - this causes heaps of thought / brain problems)

Trust this assits

[Ross]

Interesting to figure out which direction your head is facing when you sleep and correlate that with Feng Shui. North is restful, but could be too restful depending on your lifestyle. East West I think can lead to nightmares, but South East is pretty cool and energising.



Often waking up with a headache is symtomatic of sleep apnea. Lack of oxygen causes the headache. Do you know if you snore?

Both these quotes are important to look at...also having sufficient 'fresh air' while sleeping is a must.

The connection between dreaming and sleeping can cause frigid respones in the physical body, holding breath, teeth grinding ect...If you were to video your nights sleep you will see just how active you actually are during this so called 'rejuvenating sleep period'

I am one of those who's headaches are a non event...just dont get them...except when the chainsaw fell from 25ft, coming loose from the Arborists shackle and my head cushioning its fall...:loco:

Regards

Ross

[Mandala]

Any chance our DNA is being upgraded and we are preparing for higher vibrations? Does the energy wave out there have anything to do with these headaches? I have heard more people complaining of headaches and fatigue. I was told we are more tired because the gravity of this planet is becoming harder for us to deal with and carry our dense body weight as we are being altered. Wonder if there is any truth to this?

[Agape]

Switch-the-lights-off at night and there will be much less headaches..




:love:

[TigaHawk]

i personaly am feeling more fatigued.... i was going to look for a heavy metal detox kit, as ive never done a detox like that, and i had suspicions... :P

[kcw_one]

Maybe it's HAARP. Ever worn a tinfoil hat to bed? :p

[Carmody]

gotta be aluminum. Only thing that stops scalar waves. Read on :Nikolai Kozyrev.

[Strat]

I noticed that the specialist tends to have no time at all for his patients. The only thing he wants is a quick buck ...
He uses trainee assistants to do the intake talk and then he takes 1 .. 2 minutes to go over the notes. He's very quick with proposing all kind of
operations, medicines and check-ups to keep the thing going ... You can really tell ... his office and entourage screams it at you.


Really? That's got to be the worst experience I've ever heard. I've had to deal a condition known as Cluster Headaches since I was 16 and have gone to a lot of different doctors. They're usually really nice and make sure they answer all my questions. I've only seen one doctor that may have been corrupt like we read about and I stopped seeing him a long time ago.

That being said I would encourage meditation for headaches if you have the time. It's not fun, it's a skill that takes practice. I was kind of forced into this method for dealing with the pain so I'm not sure it'll work for most people. It would be much easier to pop an Advil and be on your way, if that was an option for me I probably would have been taking that route.