We are alone in the universe: Professor Brian Cox says alien life is all but impossible and humanity is ‘unique’

[Cidersomerset]

Well Mr . Cox has just gone down several rungs in the evolutional ladder imo ..LOL


Hi Brian I'm Kenio.....http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76303-The-day-UFOs-stopped-play......Florance-Italy-1954-UFO-Files-of-the-Italian-Air-Force

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" I must comply and I have a medal to prove it "........

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We are alone in the universe: Professor Brian Cox says alien life is all but impossible
and humanity is ‘unique’

new Monday 27th October 2014 at 10:52 By david-icke

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We are alone in the universe: Professor Brian Cox says alien life is all but impossible
and humanity is 'unique'

Presenter makes bold claim during BBC documentary
He says the spark of life on earth billions of years ago was a fluke
'We still struggle to understand what happened. It's incredibly unusual'

By Sam Webb for MailOnline

Published: 08:23, 27 October 2014 | Updated: 12:41, 27 October 2014


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The biological process which lead to intelligent life on earth was a fluke that is unlikely
to have been repeated anywhere else in the universe, claims Professor Brian Cox

‘The biological process which lead to intelligent life on earth was a fluke that is unlikely
to have been repeated anywhere else in the universe, claims Professor Brian Cox.

The presenter and scientist blames a series of ‘evolutionary bottlenecks’ for the lack of
extraterrestrial life on other planets, despite there being a mind-bogglingly vast number
of them in the galaxy.

Humanity miraculously overcame them in a chance binding of two single cells merging
somewhere in the mists of time, he said.

‘There is only one advanced technological civilisation in this galaxy and there has only
ever been one – and that’s us. We are unique.’

'It's a dizzying thought. There are billions of planets out there, surely there must have
been a second genesis?

'But we must be careful because the story of life on this planet shows that the transition
from single-celled life to complex life may not have been inevitable.'

He made the claims in an episode of BBC's Human Universe, adding that yet another
freak occurrence - the meteor which wiped out the dinosaurs - allowed mammals and
ultimately humanity to dominate the planet.

On the subject of the genesis of complex life, he added: 'We still struggle to understand
how this happened. It's incredibly unusual.

'We're confident this only happened once in the oceans of the primordial earth.Life here
did squeeze through.'

Last month scientists claimed that our best chance of finding alien life is not looking for
living animal organisms but rather plant life.

Two astrophysicists have said we should be looking at exoplanets for signatures of
chlorophyll, which plants use to convert sunlight into energy.

And they say this could be done by a future telescope planned by Nasa to study
habitable exoplanets.


Princeton University astrophysicists Dr Timothy Brandt and Dr David Spiegel made the
suggestions in a paper called 'Prospects for detecting oxygen, water and chlorophyll on
an exo-Earth.'

They say that it might be possible to detect signatures of water, oxygen and chlorophyll
on an alien planet.

One hundred million worlds in our galaxy are able to host alien life, according to
a 'conservative' prediction by Nasa.

And the space agency claims that we will be able to find that life within the next 20
years, with a high chance it will be outside our solar system.

During a public talk in July in Washington, the space agency outlined a roadmap to
search for life in the universe using a number of current and future telescopes.

'Do we believe there is life beyond Earth?' said former astronaut and Nasa Administrator
Charles Bolden during a talk in Washington.

'I would venture to say that most of my colleagues here today say it is improbable that
in the limitless vastness of the universe we humans stand alone.'

The latter would be the most difficult of the three but, if found, would be a pretty clear
indicator that a distant world has plant life.


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"Sod Cox'y , I bet there are Cat people on other worlds.....Puuuurrrrr !!"


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added later .....Deathbed confession of senior Lockheed Martin Scientist and the
ET's he interacted with were real and hominoid........October 2014

Of course it could be a hoax or disinfo, but it does not look like it is......


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Published on 21 Oct 2014


Shortly before Boyd Bushman passed away on August 7, 2014, he was video
recorded candidly speaking about his personal experiences with Area 51, UFOs,
aliens and anti-gravity ideas.

Boyd was a retired Senior Scientist for Lockheed Martin. His career spanned over
forty years, was awarded many patents, and included work with defense
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[MorningFox]

Hardly surprising at all. He's the new BBC poster boy for science.

Everything that comes out of this propaganda machine robot's mouth should be taken with a huge pinch of salt in my opinion.

[sirdipswitch]

It totally amazes me that people can still believe this hog wash.

[Cidersomerset]

Hardly surprising at all. He's the new BBC poster boy for science.

Everything that comes out of this propaganda machine robot's mouth should be taken with a huge pinch of salt in my opinion.

I don't watch much of his work on TV , but did put up a thread by him about the
Quantum universe and from that I was under the impression he was more open..
I know he is the mainstream poster boy and works at CERN and is a fully paid
up member of ' closed mind society ' but I was willing to give him a chance ,
especially when he was talking about the infinite universe , trillions of planets,
the Drake equation etc.............. obviously I was wrong !!! ...LOL

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The presenter and Physicist Brian Cox: 'Multiverse' makes sense

23 September 2014 Last updated at 08:42

Brian Cox: 'Multiverse' makes senseBrian Cox

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But as Jackovesk said on one of the posts

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"Sorry" Cider, please don't take this personally...

It is merely from my own observations that I say this...

But anything from this ((NWO Shill)), I take with a grain of salt...


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Why???

Because he was instrumental in ((Throwing the Wool over Everyone EyE's )) & Helped-Push the ((Global Warming - SCAM))...

PS - Because ((They Say)) - ((Exact Science)) is...



Quote An exact science is any field of science capable of accurate quantitative expression
or precise predictions and rigorous methods of testing hypotheses, especially reproducible
experiments involving quantifiable predictions and measurements. Physics and chemistry
can be considered as exact sciences in this sense. Systems Biology, especially theoretical
and mathematical systems biology can also be considered an exact science, as it makes
heavy use of mathematical graph theory, logic, statistics and ordinary differential equations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exact_science
PS - As George W. Bush said (("Fool Me Once"))..!!!


KjmjqlOPd6A


PSS - I personally will ((NEVER-EVER)) give ((PAID - FOR)) Scientist's a 2nd Chance once they have been ((Caught)) sprouting ((Dis-Info))...No Way in Hell...


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[Omni]

To say extraterrestrial life in the universe doesn't exist, is one of the dumbest thoughts in existence. Seriously... I'm not sure there are many thoughts that could be more dense.

[sheme]

It just maybe he hasn't worked it out yet- My son says it is a rare thing to find intellect and common sense in one human being.

This man has the ultimate hypothesis. "We must be alone in the universe because no one has come to say hello yet" . I have paraphrased the conclusion he came to- though he does admit to the possibility of over 10 million earth like planets in the milky way alone.

[donk]

I don't agree with this, but as sometimes-advocate-for-the-devil I present this (mostly in jest):

I'm sure I misunderstand the "infinite universe" scenario of the multiverse idea, but suppose it was correct...there is infinite universes and anything that can be imaginable DOES exist or should in some universe.

Is it that far fetched that this particular one-in-infinite chance existence that we find ourselves in happens to be the one where there are no other beings in all of existence except for us--or maybe just that we are in one part of an infinite universe that currently has no other occupants? Instead of actual ETs like there are in the other infinite-minus-one existences, we are stuck in the one where it's only mind control from other humans, who "evolved" from some fluke? Doesn't probablility allow for that?

.......don't get upset, I'm just being silly

[shadowstalker]

‘The biological process which lead to intelligent life on earth was a fluke that is unlikely
to have been repeated anywhere else in the universe, claims Professor Brian Cox.

The presenter and scientist blames a series of ‘evolutionary bottlenecks’ for the lack of
extraterrestrial life on other planets, despite there being a mind-bogglingly vast number
of them in the galaxy.

In order to make a bold statement like that, one would have to have traveled the universe, and i doubt he had done that in this physical realm, or own the manual of planets and have read it all, in this physical realm, once again I doubt it.

Does this guy really believe this?
Has he even looked through a telescope? Or just plane looked up?

Are they trying to take us back to the stone ages, to which in most cases they where smarter then we are now.

Trillions and trillions of light years of space, and we are the only ones? PLEASE...SERIOUSLY NOW?

[donk]

Does this guy really believe this?


I seriously doubt it. But give enough reward or threat, most people will "believe" whatever you tell them to.

[Peace of Mind]

Interesting, the mind can produce anything...but do you really want to produce something you know very little about...or was never your thoughts to begin with? This is how suffering comes in to play. What becomes when you take something as gospel yet have no prior experiences with it?

Believing and putting faith in anything you can’t actually prove to be real… is probably the dumbest thing to do. If you have no evidence…at least for yourself to share with a confidant…then you most likely have nothing but a budding festering/contagious lie. All you’re really doing is spreading a potential virus, and in most cases unknowingly.
We only believe there is life in the universe because we have been trained to believe the “Universe” is a giant void filled with trillions of galaxies. None of us (other than a special select few) have ever traveled/ventured the cosmos. All we can…and has ever done was take the information giving to us (by organizations we hardly trust) and place faith in it, why?

After years and years of programming this data into the collective mind, by way of film, books, and false testimonies….the information eventually becomes common belief. Why? Simply due to consistent force feeding, nothing else. People then started fashioning other belief systems/ideologies from the unconfirmed information that was previously embedded within their minds. Not because they took a ride on a space ship, not because they have definitive proof. It’s because of their conditioned mind set.

For all they/we know… the perceived experiences with aliens could very well be elaborate fake sightings and abductions by secret governments, masking their deceitful and heinous actions with this legendary lie. When you can get a person to believe in myths, they will become docile, confused, irrelevant, slaves. They will seek what’s not there, burning up all their precious energy and time, becoming useless, yet controllable because their power and energy is cleverly controlled. Spending so much on something that has never produced anything of value/substance for you is a great dis-service to self and others.

Countless people went to their graves believing the world was flat. Countless people died believing the Sun revolved around the Earth. Now, countless people believe the Earth revolves around the Sun and that there are trillions of other Galaxies out there with potential life on it. How do we know this for sure when no one has yet “proven” to have step foot on another world? All we have is data from probes and robots (supposedly). And none of it has ever actually suggested life was present. Yet, we pick and choose what to believe from these secretive organizations that “tell” us what it is… instead of actually proving it in a way that can be confirmed by all. If these very same people studying space has yet to find life…how are people in places like the “alternative media sites” getting this information? How can you trust any of it at all and waste time talking about it as if the proof is actually there to be examined? All this has ever done was divided the masses even more…while cleverly spreading fear and disempowerment. How we can fear and/or praise the unverified or the unseen is more mysterious than the whole alien subject itself. I think it’s all suspicious. Every single time I’ve inquired in the subject…the answers are either defensive, purposely vague, or left un-answered.

Have you ever considered this realm/reality/world was a school for soul/spiritual advancement? Do you look around and realize your environment is compatible to your thoughts? Do you offer/promote/advertise solutions more than you promote/advertise problems?

Do you really think you control the way you think? What will you be thinking / doing with your presence today?

Hmmm, being mindful is how to be careful.

Peace

[ulli]

People who are MSM spokespersons are always operating with a specific agenda.
They speak with the aim of pressing the public's buttons.
They might even be orchestrating public responses.

Data mining is the least of their objectives...the more outrageous their claims and statements
the more they want to get the flavour of the soup they are stirring.

I thought Avalonians were a bit beyond taking this stuff at face value.

[yelik]

This is the British Bull**** Corporation (BBC) don't waste any thoughts or breath criticising this joke of an organisation. A condition of working for the BBC is that you must remove whatever brain you have first

[donk]

I thought Avalonians were a bit beyond taking this stuff at face value.


I wish. To think this guy "believes" or "decides" anything is like saying Bush or America or the government does.

We still give power to the belief in these reality show stars and abstract energetic concepts...

[Omni]

Is it that far fetched that this particular one-in-infinite chance existence that we find ourselves in happens to be the one where there are no other beings in all of existence except for us--or maybe just that we are in one part of an infinite universe that currently has no other occupants? Instead of actual ETs like there are in the other infinite-minus-one existences, we are stuck in the one where it's only mind control from other humans, who "evolved" from some fluke? Doesn't probablility allow for that?
Yes, it is that far fetched IMO. The chances of us being alone in the universe is about the same chance as me being the sole creator of this entire universe yet the US government deleted that memory and somehow trapped me in an amnesic body... lol. How probable is that? I'd say zero. We can figure things out with logic when there is no proof. No guarantees on logic being right, as logic can be flawed. But if done right, you can piece together quite a lot with logic. At least something as easy as life in the universe...

If you said something like we could be an early bloomer in the universe, and ETs are not around us because nobody has come up with advanced enough tech to get here, it would be more reasonable IMO. However, back when the dinosaurs were roaming the earth, some humanoids in our galaxy were around where we are now. We are not an early bloomer. In fact we are a late bloomer it seems.

I respect the ability to debate or speak of things that one does not believe, but I think it's not very useful in this case. It's too obvious of an answer. Even in infinite amounts of universes some things do not take place IMO. Like only one planet with evolved lifeforms when there are more than 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+ planets that can harbor life in the universe (just a guesstimate).

[donk]

What's useful about "debating" something that is pretty much a prerequesite to being on the forum in the first place? To me, not much, except as a novelty.

Although i do like other's perception on reality. I find yours interesting, in the way you "limit" it...

...HEH!! this was a slip, but will leave it. I meant (at least consciously, I thought) infinite

[Cidersomerset]

We were talking about this on Bills thread and I have been speculating the
amount of disclosure going on in the last decade from the web and even
mainstream outlets with the discovery of more and more 'goldilocks' planets..

We could be living in a holographic maitrix , but within that ET's would
be as 'real' as us in this reality .Who knows on the Astral plane ?

Yes its speculation , intuition and many witness statements and
experiances . In a universe of all possibilities anything is possible.
So if Brians reality excludes ET's until the day one taps him on the
shoulder that's up to him and millions of others who share his views.
I don't and think the universe is teaming with life , probably here
all ready.

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•The human race as we know it is the outcome of an ET experiment.
•The ET experimenters are 100% benign and non-violent. They will not interfere, whatever happens in their experiment (which has been in progress for just under a million years, with another two million to run).
•What was UNPLANNED is that the human race would get hold of advanced technology (from UFO crashes, which were never intended or anticipated by the experimenters) — and use this to escape the planet and go off into the galaxy.


This is quite logical to me , it could have been the Annunaki in a lab in Africa , per
Sitchin, Tellinger and very topical with the various virus outbreaks coming from
that region man made or natural , aids , Ebola. Though if you go back in history
there have been many plagues not necessarily coming out of Africa. It could be the
Greys or some other race , but they seem to be interfering to much if abductions
and interactions are anything to go by.

The Booteans the local galactic ambassadors who have monitored us for millions of
years and aprox 27,000 yrs ago changed a existing hominoid on earth by altering
the jaw and wrist/thumb, and may be the ET's who have been helping China since
the mid 1990's. Although the date of 27 ,000 does not seem long enough ago ? Or
there could be other race or races involved......

The Pleiadians interacted with the North American Indians and some other
interesting info in the discussion on the link below , Bob reads from a leaflet
channelled by the Evergreens, Bob worked in intelligence for MI5 and others
before retiring and going into the media in the 1980's. He is still going strong
in his 90's, his last show last sat/sun was 18hrs long live, and they are a
phenomenon in there own right, though an acquired taste. I find amongst the
deliberate ' babble' there is really good info....

Some of this is channelled info, but the Elites have always channelled and still do.....

Booteans....Explained by Bob...from the 'Evergreens'...
Memes, Ira Einhorn, Walter Breen
8 March 2005

http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/audio/phatic_communion/07_Bowart/Bowart%20Bob/mcL_ufo_etc%20%203-08-05_01a.mp3

Michael Blake Read
(Born May 22, 1938 - January 27, 2013)

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Default What the Illuminati Know about ET's & Human evolution.....

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400,000 years, Oldest Human DNA Leads To More Questions Than Answers ( major changes last 5 yrs)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75061-400-000-years-Oldest-Human-DNA-Leads-To-More-Questions-Than-Answers---major-changes-last-5-yrs-&p=877903&highlight=cidersomerset+Booteans#post877903

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What was I saying about the mainstreams drip drip disclosure, I had to laugh
when I saw this even the BBC news page is joining in today....LOL .....
Which is a bit coincindental , Although dismissed by some sceptics
its an pretty compelling incident imo , with far to many witness's for
it to be imagination or mass hysteria . It was either ET's or advanced
life already here living alongside us , parrellel universe visitors, Future
time travelling tourists or advanced terrestrial military hardware , but
seems a little early for that but who knows ? But any way not just
migrating spiders...LOL.....Unless you know different ??


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24 October 2014 Last updated at 01:31

The day UFOs stopped playBy Richard Padula
BBC World Service Sport


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The Stadio Artemi Franchi in 1954, the year the UFOs were sighted



Sixty years ago a football match ground to a halt when unidentified flying objects were
spotted above a stadium in Florence. Did aliens come to earth? If not, what were they?

It was 27 October 1954, a typically crisp autumn day in Tuscany. The mighty Fiorentina
club was playing against its local rival Pistoiese.

Ten-thousand fans were watching in the concrete bowl of the Stadio Artemi Franchi. But
just after half-time the stadium fell eerily silent - then a roar went up from the crowd. The
spectators were no longer watching the match, but were looking up at the sky, fingers
pointing. The players stopped playing, the ball rolled to a stand-still.

One of the footballers on the pitch was Ardico Magnini - he was something of a legend
at the club and had played for Italy at the 1954 World Cup.

"I remember everything from A to Z," he says. "It was something that looked like an egg
that was moving slowly, slowly, slowly. Everyone was looking up and also there was some
glitter coming down from the sky, silver glitter.

"We were astonished we had never seen anything like it before. We were absolutely shocked."

Players pointing up at the sky
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Play was suspended because spectators saw something in the sky, according to the
referee's match report.

Among the crowd was Gigi Boni, a lifelong Fiorentina fan. "I remember clearly seeing this
incredible sight," he says. His description of multiple objects differs slightly from Magnini's.

"They were moving very fast and then they just stopped. It all lasted a couple of minutes.
I would like to describe them as being like Cuban cigars. They just reminded me of Cuban
cigars, in the way they looked."

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La Nazione had a photo of the UFO over Florence La Nazione's headline reads: Glass fibres
fall on Tuscan cities after globes and flying saucers pass by. Lower headline: The sighting
over Florence (with a photograph, now lost, of the UFO).

Boni has spent many years reliving that day in his mind. "I think they were extra-terrestrial.
That's what I believe, and there's no other explanation I can give myself."

Another of the players, Romolo Tuci, still sprightly in his 70s, agrees. "In those years everybody
was talking about aliens, everybody was talking UFOs and we had the experience, we saw them,
we saw them directly, for real."

The incident at the stadium cannot simply be interpreted as mass hysteria - there were numerous
UFO sightings in many towns across Tuscany that day and over the days that followed. According
to some eyewitness accounts a ray of white light was seen in the sky coming from Prato,
north of Florence.

Another man who relishes the chance to speak about that day is Roberto Pinotti, the president of
Italy's National UFO Centre. He has written many books about UFOs and his home in the centre of
Florence is stuffed full of alien memorabilia, posters of old Italian B-movies, framed newspaper
articles and black-and-white photographs of blurry flying saucers.

"The players and the public were stunned seeing these objects above the stadium," Pinotti says.

"At the time the newspapers spoke of aliens from Mars. Of course now we know that is not so - but
we may conclude that it was an intelligent phenomenon, a technological phenomenon and a
phenomenon that cannot be linked with anything we know on Earth."

He's also intrigued by the material that fell from the sky - what Magnini describes as silver glitter.

Illustration showing flying saucers over Florence "A wave of flying saucers over
Italy," reported the Domenica del Corriere three years later. With thanks to the
Fondazione Corriere della Sera for the use of material from their historic archives.

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Artist's impression of UFOs over stadium A sketch of UFOs over the stadium by Silvio Neri

"It is a fact that at the same time the UFOs were seen over Florence there was a strange, sticky
substance falling from above. In English we call this 'angel hair'," says Pinotti.

"The only problem is after a short period of time it disintegrates." As a 10-year-old-boy he witnessed
this phenomenon himself. "I remember, in broad daylight, seeing the roofs of the houses in Florence
covered in this white substance for one hour and, like snow, it just evaporated.

"No-one knows what this strange substance has to do with UFOs."

"Angel hair" - the fluff that fell from the sky

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Variously described by witnesses as similar to cotton wool or cobwebs, the substance was hard to collect
because it disintegrated on contact - but some people were determined to find out what it was.

One of them was a journalist at the Florentine newspaper La Nazione, the late Giorgio Batini. In 2003 he
told an Italian television programme, Voyager, how on that day he received hundreds of phone calls about
the sightings. From the offices of La Nazione in the centre of town his own view of the sky was blocked by
the Cathedral, so he went up to the top of the newspaper's building to see what everyone was talking about.
The 81-year-old recalled seeing "shiny balls" moving fast towards the dome of the Cathedral.

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Batini ventured out to investigate. He came across a wood outside the city that was covered in the white fluff.
He gathered several samples by rolling them up on a matchstick, and took them to the Institute of Chemical
Analysis at the University of Florence. When he got there he found that others had done the same.

The lab, led by respected scientist Prof Giovanni Canneri, subjected the material to spectrographic analysis and
concluded that it contained the elements boron, silicon, calcium and magnesium, and that it was not radioactive.
Unfortunately this did not provide any conclusive answers - and the material was destroyed in the process.

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A sample of the mysterious "angel hair" A sample of the mysterious "angel hair" was photographed for the
newspapers Could it have come from a UFO? "It's an absolutely silly idea. Science totally rejects this idea,
" says US Air Force pilot-turned-astronomer James McGaha. From the Grasslands Observatory in South
Eastern Arizona he has spent more than 40,000 hours staring at the night sky. Not to mention the additional
hours he's spent in the cockpit of US fighter jets.

"You know the whole UFO phenomenon is nothing but myth, magic and superstition, wrapped up in this idea
that somehow aliens are coming here either to save us or destroy us," he says.

In McGaha's view, the whole spectacle, "angel hair" and all, was nothing more than migrating spiders.

"When I looked at this case originally I thought perhaps it was a fireball, a very bright meteor breaking up in
the atmosphere. They can be cigar-shaped with pieces breaking off. But it became fairly apparent that this
was actually caused by young spiders spinning webs, very, very thin webs.

"The spiders use these webs as sails and they link together and you get a big glob of this stuff in the sky and
the spiders ride on this to move between locations. They just fly on the wind and these things have been
recorded at 14,000 feet above the ground. So, when the sunlight glistens off this, you get all kinds of visual effects.


Short vid on migrating spider webs on link...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29342407

"As some of this stuff breaks off and falls to the ground, this all seems magical of course," says McGaha.
"But I'm fairly confident that's what happened that day."

This theory is backed up by the fact that September and October are the months when spiders in the northern
hemisphere migrate - and spectacular spider migrations still make headlines today. But it hasn't convinced everyone.

"Of course I know about the migrating spiders hypothesis - it's pure nonsense. It's an old story and also a stupid
story," says Pinotti.

He disputes the spider theory because of the chemical analysis of the "angel hair" samples. Spider silk is a
protein - an organic compound containing nitrogen, calcium, hydrogen and oxygen - not the elements
reportedly found in the samples Batini and others brought to the university.


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78473000/jpg/_78473136_624fiorentina.jpg
The witnesses reunite at Stadio Artemi Franchi: Ardico Magnini, Gigi Boni, Ronaldo Lomi and Romolo Tuci Players
Ardico Magnini, Ronaldo Lomi and Romolo Tuci with their fan Gigi Boni (second left), at the ground



Sixty years on, the chances of determining the cause of the incident are slim. "I wouldn't trust any reports of an
old and strange event like this unless I'd seen the data," says science writer Philip Ball. He agrees that the
elements said to have been observed in the "angel hair" don't seem to tally with the spider theory.

"Magnesium and calcium are fairly common elements in living bodies, boron and silicon much less so - but if these
were the main elements that the white fluff contained, it doesn't sound to me as though they'd come from spiders," he says.

So it all remains a mystery. No matter what the scientists say, those who were there are convinced that what
they saw was unlike anything on earth.

Romolo Tuci just feels lucky to have been there. His eyes dance excitedly as he remembers that curious day.
"I was spell-bound and I was also so, so happy."

Video of spiders ballooning courtesy of Rob Ferber, Little Grove Farm

Additional research by Vibeke Venema

Listen again to the Mystery of the Fiorentina UFOs as featured on World Football on BBC World Service.

Subscribe to the BBC News Magazine's email newsletter to get articles sent to your inbox.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29342407

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Defense Minister tell RT "Aliens Visiting Earth for Thousands of Years" Jaw Dropping Interview

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Published on 22 Jun 2014


Sophie Shevardnadze: Our guest today is the Honorable Paul Hellyer, former
minister of Defense of Canada, and he believes that life forms from space are
present on Earth. It's great to have you on our show. Why do you say that UFOs
are as real as airplanes flying over our heads?

Paul Hellyer: Because I know that they are. As a matter of fact, they've been
visiting our planet for thousands of years and one of the cases that would interest
you most if you give me two or three minutes to answer is that during the Cold
War, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia across
Europe, and Supreme Allied Command was very concerned and about ready to
press the "Panic" button when they turned around and went back over the North
Pole. They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for 3 years and
they decided that, with absolute certainty, four species - at least -- had been
visiting this planet for thousands of years. We have a long history of UFOs and of
course there has been a lot more activity in the last few decades, since we invented
the atomic bomb and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we
might use it again, and because the Cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but
other people in the Cosmos, they are very much afraid that we might be stupid
enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and
for them as well.

He was Canadian minister of Defense in 1960s, ruling over the country's armed
forces during the time of the Cold War -- and when he retired he publicly stated
that we are not alone in the universe, and some guests from outer space actually
live here, on planet Earth. Is this fantasy? Is someone actually watching us? Today
we ask the man who says UFOs are a serious business -- Paul Hellyer.

If we down at least one UFO we'll be facing an interstellar war - Former Defense
Minister of Canada
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The day UFOs stopped play......Florance Italy 1954 // UFO Files of the Italian Air Force

more on .....http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76303-The-day-UFOs-stopped-play......Florance-Italy-1954-UFO-Files-of-the-Italian-Air-Force&p=892612#post892612


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76226-THE-ULTIMATE-PLAN--a-fairy-story...-maybe-&p=892591#post892591

[Omni]

What's useful about "debating" something that is pretty much a prerequesite to being on the forum in the first place? To me, not much, except as a novelty.

Although i do like other's perception on reality. I find yours interesting, in the way you "limit" it...

...HEH!! this was a slip, but will leave it. I meant (at least consciously, I thought) infinite

Reality does have some limits IMO. Like natural law for example. It does not change, it has limits. To think reality is unlimited is a step towards solopsism. There are not infinite amounts of possibilities, possibilities are a finite thing. Just like thoughts. Thoughts are finite in the number of available ones. A universe with billions/trillions of galaxies each containing billions/trillions of stars, and most stars have planets... Sorry but I can identify that there is no such universe with only one planet with life as an extremely high probability.

[Cidersomerset]

I apologise for those who have seen these posts on Bills thread but they
fit this thread as well.....Yes they are all theories , then again that's
what mainstream science is a theory until the next discovery in many cases.

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Interesting question.

How could we possibly be the one and only planet teaming with life in a universe composed of a minimum of 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars (100 octillion). Can you imagine that?

Statistically speaking, we simply cannot be the only ones. Somewhere, somehow, there must be other forms of life in this huge universe. So yes, I really believe in the notion of ETs.


I don't think we are alone and never have been , and disclosure has been
happening over the last 70 years at least if not more thru fiction and movies as well
as TV and now the web. Although not official its all but as far as I can see....

I just had a quick look in my archive and theres many more threads by other
Avalonians, and researchers .Here a few that tell me we are not alone from recent
reports...

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Astronomers discover most Earth-like planet 26/6/14.....only a few weeks after the last one !!

Many on here already think the universe is teaming with habitable planets, but
its still interesting how they are disclosing slowly these discoveries so as when
the big one comes it will not be a surprise.......

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72652-Astronomers-discover-most-Earth-like-planet-26-6-14.....only-a-few-weeks-after-the-last-one---
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Are we alone in the universe? // NASA getting closer to finding alien life
Are we alone in the universe?

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73031-Are-we-alone-in-the-universe-NASA-getting-closer-to-finding-alien-life

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Complex organic molecule found in interstellar space // Water on distant Neptune-sized planet
26 September 2014 Last updated at 10:56

Complex organic molecule found in interstellar space
By Michael Eyre Science reporter
Alma telescope

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75508-Complex-organic-molecule-found-in-interstellar-space-Water-on-distant-Neptune-sized-planet


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‘Alien life found above Derbyshire proves we’re descended from extraterrestrials’, say scientists



OK its not the ET's we think are out there and visiting/living here for eons but its a start....

It was only a decade or so scientists thought we maybe the only solar system
with potential 'Goldilocks' planets now there are many of them and growing...

The ground work for disclosure has been laid by mainstream science over the
last decade , whether they go the final step is the big question ??.....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75813---Alien-life-found-above-Derbyshire-proves-we--re-descended-from-extraterrestrials---say-scientists

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Graham Hancock - Ancient Man and Our Mysterious Origins // Gobekli Tepe Roundtable march 2014



Graham has been researching for a follow up to his book 'Fingerprints of the Gods'
In the light of new discoveries , in this presentation he discusses that and more.......


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71613-Graham-Hancock-Ancient-Man-and-Our-Mysterious-Origins-Gobekli-Tepe-Roundtable-march-2014

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Richplanet TV - 21/06/14.. Edgar Fouche & US Secret Space Fleet with resarcher Andrew Johnson Avalon member

Richplanet TV - 21/06/14 Show - US Secret Space Fleet Program


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72625-Richplanet-TV-21-06-14..-Edgar-Fouche-US-Secret-Space-Fleet-with-resarcher-Andrew-Johnson-Avalon-member

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[Cidersomerset]

I don't know if this is a genuine quote , but quite good.......


http://todayinsci.com/E/Einstein_Albert/EinsteinAlbert-MathematicsAndReality800px.jpg


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The other option apart from religion is Darwinism , which is possible
with ET intervention at a later stage as per the Annunaki , Booteans
or other races......

We have probably all heard variations of the current evolution of
humans, heres some of the most recent articles, for those who
like to compare mainstream with alternate like I do.......and
a lot of the mainstream is speculation and more fancy full than
ET intervention imo .

I just finished the vid below and it gives a docu/drama how the picture
of the brief history of paleontology , and the relatively thin evidence of
their theory. It was made in 2005 and not as recent as the posting suggest,
so does not contain a lot of recent discoveries posted in the other articles
below, but still interesting as a basis of mainstream science 'evolution
of man'.......

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Ape to Human Evolution - Where We Came From? If Apes Evolved into Humans, Why Do We Still Have Apes?


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Published on 10 Jul 2014


Since Charles Darwin published the theory of evolution by means of natural
selection in 1859, myths and misinterpretations have eroded public understanding
of his ideas. For example, some people continue to argue that evolution isn't a valid
scientific theory because it can't be tested. This, of course, isn't true. Scientists
have successfully run numerous laboratory tests that support the major tenets of
evolution. And field scientists have been able to use the fossil record to answer
important questions about natural selection and how organisms change over time.

Still, the evolution-is-not-falsifiable myth remains popular. So does this one: The
second law of thermodynamics, which says an orderly system will always become
disorderly, makes evolution impossible. This myth reflects a general
misunderstanding of entropy, the term used by physicists to describe randomness
or disorder. The second law does state that the total entropy of a closed system
can't decrease, but it does allow parts of a system to become more orderly as long
as other parts becomes less so. In other words, evolution and the second law
of thermodynamics can live together in harmony.

One of the most persistent myths, however, concerns the relationship of humans to
great apes, a group of primates that includes the gorilla, orangutan and
chimpanzee. Someone who believes the myth will say, "If evolution exists, then
humans must be descended directly from apes. Apes must have changed, step by
step, into humans." This same person will often follow up with this observation: "If
apes 'turned into' humans, then apes should no longer exist." Although there are
several ways to attack this assertion, the bottom-line rebuttal is simple -- humans
didn't descend from apes. That's not to say humans and apes aren't related, but
the relationship can't be traced backward along a direct line of descent, one form
morphing into another. It must be traced along two independent lines, far back into
time until the two lines merge.

The intersection of the two lines represents something special, what biologists refer
to as a common ancestor. This apelike ancestor, which probably lived 5 to 11
million years ago in Africa, gave rise to two distinct lineages, one resulting in
hominids -- humanlike species -- and the other resulting in the great ape species
living today. Or, to use a family tree analogy, the common ancestor occupied a
trunk, which then divided into two branches. Hominids developed along one branch,
while the great ape species developed along another branch.

What did this common ancestor look like? Although the fossil record has been
stingy with answers, it seems logical that the animal would have possessed
features of both humans and apes. In 2007, Japanese scientists believe they found
the jawbone and teeth of just such an animal. By studying the size and shape of
the teeth, they determined that the ape was gorilla-sized and had an appetite for
hard nuts and seeds. They named it Nakalipithecus nakayamai and calculated its
age to be 10 million years old. That puts the ape in the right place on the time line.
More important, the scientists found the ancient bones in the Samburu Hills of
northern Kenya. That puts N. nakayamai in the right geographic place, along a
trajectory of hominid evolution that stretches for several hundred miles in eastern
Africa. The Middle Awash region of Ethiopia lies to the north, where the African
continent dead-ends into the Red Sea.Today, the Middle Awash region burns hot
and inhospitable beneath a desert sun. But 10 million years ago, according to
paleontologists and geologists, it held a cool, wet forest teeming with life. Is it
possible that an apelike creature such as N. nakayamai lived in these fertile
woodlands? Is it furthermore possible that the creature was just beginning to
experiment with a new lifestyle, one that brought it down to the ground from the
trees? Scientists think so, and they've been coming for years to the Middle Awash
region, as well as points south, to learn when and how humanlike species diverged
from the great apes.

One of the most important Middle Awash discoveries came in 1994, when a team of
scientists led by Tim White of the University of California, Berkeley, found
skeletal remains that included skull, pelvis and hand and foot bones. When the t
eam pieced the skeleton together, it revealed a very early hominid that walked
upright, yet still retained an opposable toe, a trait commonly found in tree-climbing primates.

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22 October 2014 Last updated at 18:06

DNA yields secrets of human pioneerPallab Ghosh
By Pallab Ghosh

Science correspondent, BBC News DNA analysis of a 45,000-year-old human has helped scientists
pinpoint when our ancestors interbred with Neanderthals.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78452000/jpg/_78452503_universalman.jpg

Early European Universal human: This reconstruction is of a different modern
human from Romania 43,000 years ago. But it gives some clues to what the
Siberian man may have looked like. This population was not long out of Africa and
genetically midway between Europeans and Asians The genome sequence from a
thigh bone found in Siberia shows the first episode of mixing occurred between
50,000 and 60,000 years ago.

The male hunter is one of the earliest modern humans discovered in Eurasia.

The study in Nature journal also supports the finding that our species emerged
from Africa some 60,000 years ago, before spreading around the world.

The analysis raises the possibility that the human line first emerged millions of
years earlier than current estimates.


Max-Plack Institute

The work of Prof Svante Paabo, from the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig, Germany,
is rewriting the story of humanity. Prof Paabo and his colleagues have pioneered
methods to extract DNA from ancient human remains and read its genetic code.

From this sequence, Prof Paabo has been able to decipher an increasingly detailed
story of modern humans as they spread across the globe.

"The amazing thing is that we have a good genome of a 45,000 year old person
who was close to the ancestor of all present-day humans outside Africa," Prof
Paabo told BBC News.

Prof Paabo has analysed DNA from part of a leg bone of a man that lived in
Western Siberia around 45,000 years ago. This is a key moment at the cross roads
of the world, when modern humans were on the cusp of an expansion into Europe
and Asia.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78287000/jpg/_78287153_paabo_ui_1.jpg

And the thigh bone is connected to your... evolutionary past. Prof Paabo Svante has
unlocked the secrets contained in this femur from one of the earliest humans
discovered out of Africa.

The key finding was that the man had large, unshuffled chunks of DNA from a now
extinct species of human, Neanderthals who evolved outside of Africa.

"Our analysis shows that modern humans had already interbred with Neanderthals
then and we can determine when that first happened much more precisely than we
could before."

Natural History Museum

Prof Paabo and his team published research in 2010 which showed that all non-
African humans today have Neanderthal DNA. But that genetic material has been
broken into much smaller chunks over the generations.

By extrapolating the size of DNA chunks backwards, Prof Paabo and his colleagues
were able to calculate when the first interbreeding with Neanderthals occurred. His
study shows that it was between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago.

According to Prof Chris Stringer of the Natural History Museum in London, this early
interbreeding might indicate when the ancestors of people living outside of Africa
today made their first steps out of the continent inwhich our species evolved more
than 150,000 years ago.

Prof Stringer was among those who believed that the first exit by modern humans
from Africa that give rise to people outside of Africa today might have happened
earlier, possibly 100,000 years ago. The evidence from Prof Paabo's research is
persuading him that it was now much later.

"There is a dispute as to when that "Out of Africa" event happened and this fossil
helps to look at that. It is close to the time I think that modern humans exited from
Africa and gave rise to the populations in the rest of the world. I think that exit
happened 60,000 years ago," he told BBC News.


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/78287000/jpg/_78287157_ust-ishim_panorama.jpg

River Irtysh Crossroads for humanity: the river Irtysh in Western Siberia where the
bone was found. It comes from a time when the human race was about to embark
on its journey to the rest of the world The new narrative seems to fit in with a
recent new, more accurate dating of the arrival of modern humans into Europe by
Prof Thomas Higham of Oxford University. Research published in August showed
that this happened 45,000 years ago.

Watershed

Prof Paabo's 45,000 year-old man seems to have lived at a point that was both
geographically, and in time, a crossroads for humanity.

"This does seem to mark a watershed where modern humans were pushing the
boundaries further and further in their dispersal out of Africa," according to Prof
Stringer.

Prof Paabo also compared the DNA of the man living 45,000 years ago with those
living today. He found that the man was genetically midway between Europeans
and Asians - indicating he lived close to the time before our species separated into
different racial groups.

Prof Paabo was also able to estimate the rate at which human DNA has changed or
mutated over the millennia. He found that it was slower than the rate suggested by
fossil evidence and similar to what has been observed in families.

"We have caught evolution red handed!" Prof Paabo said gleefully.

This raises the possibility that the very first species of the human line separated
from apes 10 or 11 million years ago - rather than the five or six million years ago
that genetic evidence had previously suggested.

But he stressed in his research paper that much more analysis was needed before
re-dating the emergence of the human line.

"We caution that (mutation) rates may have changed over time and may differ
between human populations," he said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29649499

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400,000 years, Oldest Human DNA Leads To More Questions Than Answers ( major changes last 5 yrs)


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75061-400-000-years-Oldest-Human-DNA-Leads-To-More-Questions-Than-Answers---major-changes-last-5-yrs-

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Europeans drawn from three ancient 'tribes'


Theories and data are changing more rapidly in recent years and I think there is
much more to it than this article shows , but interesting anyway....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75057-Europeans-drawn-from-three-ancient-tribes

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New DNA study shows Humans Bred With Unknown Species

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74155-New-DNA-study-shows-Humans-Bred-With-Unknown-Species

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Has an Australian archaeologist found a new species of human?.// 'Enigma man' or 'Red Deer cave people'..


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72642-Has-an-Australian-archaeologist-found-a-new-species-of-human-.-Enigma-man-or-Red-Deer-cave-people-..

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[BF88]

A very bold statement. He must have searched long and hard for alien life across the universe to come to this conclusion, that is what his good boy medal is for.

[donk]

Sorry but I can identify that there is no such universe with only one planet with life as an extremely high probability.


Why are you sorry? I'm not sure I believe in infinite either

[Omni]

Sorry but I can identify that there is no such universe with only one planet with life as an extremely high probability.


Why are you sorry? I'm not sure I believe in infinite either
Just a figure of speech.

[Peace of Mind]

I’m curious…

When you look into your telescope…can you confirm that you see planets/stars …or that you think you see giant orbs of what appears to be planets/stars?
Can “you” also confirm (for yourself) that these objects are balls of various gases/chemicals/metals? Or are you/we just going along with the “here say”?
Can you confirm/debunk anything about them without actually being on, or in these objects? Those answers should be very telling…

When there are supposedly trillions of galaxies….I’d expect to see at least one ET, maybe even a half of one ET would suffice. But as it stands now…there is really nothing to see (just orbs). We/you/I see no signs of life in, on or around any of them. We only imagine we do. And seeing that Mr/Mrs E.T. has yet to reveal themselves to our society…why are we interested in them more than our own species? With all the serious “act now” things happening around this planet… why is our focus constantly being turned to the clouds? Hmmm, because it’s the greatest distraction that has never served us one once of good, why? The answer isn’t hard at all…

To add on that…This planet is made differently than others (supposedly), so why do we expect life to be recognizable? Is it because we are using the imaginations that were formed right here on planet Earth…to place a picture of what we “think” is on another planet? haha
I used to fantasize a lot about alien life too, but all that stopped once I started to carefully examine “these finds, and testimonies of alien life”. The truth is never that hard to get to. lies/ great fabrications are found in obscurity, often hidden right in front of you for long periods of time. It will consume you eventually; especially if you keep giving it your attention.

Possibilities are endless, and some want you to materialize their weak ambitions through brain washing your mentals. Be aware of such individuals, they will attempt anything to get you on board; disrespecting your position/intellect/rationale is the least they’ll resort to, after all...it all seems like a plot to control your thinking. Why would Aliens be discussed for so long…. yet has never shown any importance for knowing if they are real or not? What have they done for us? How can we confirmed if they are/has/will do anything good or bad for us? Where’s the importance? The importance is in the distraction, it's in how elaborate the lie can be to create a false flag. Think about that.

Peace

[Cidersomerset]

This little clip shows Brians closed mind concept......

The fact he believes the moon landings happened does
not matter, I presume they did as there are landing
sites with remains there buggies landers etc. How
we got there and the fake moon pictures filmed
allegedly by Stanley Kubric is another matter.

I presume this is an 'out cut' and Brian is angry
with the question, but his answer is telling of
his thinking. He says it like discovering America,
inferring Columbus , If he meant the indigenous
people already there for thousands of years he
did not make it clear.

So we have discovered more and more exo planets
and because we have not been there to see them,
we have not discovered them so they are not
scientifically real....LOL...Well that's how I
interpreted it .Now that is being harsh and he
probably never mean't it like that, although
he says you have to be a 'Moron' not to believe
in the Moon landings. But after his statement in
post one, who knows..LOL


Dr Brian Cox on Faking the Moon Landings

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[donk]

I DO believe in reality. I also feel most here have more experience with any non-human part of it than myself…and it is interesting to me to learn others’ beliefs and understandings.

I think the exercise of reflecting on my little thought experiment is useful if it can be a trigger to similarly improbable beliefs that we (the proverbial “we”) may have taken for granted.

In other words, looking at things turned inside-out and upside-down may help us reveal to ourselves the lies we (or those around us) live.

[bogeyman]

Geocentric thinking, having all your nice little theories and nothing out there to upset them.

[donk]

I keep coming back to “it’s so arrogant to think that WE are the peak of existence”, right? SHOULDN’T that be ENOUGH? To at least get others to think?

Yet here we are, in a world where we feel good talking about it in this forum…but out there, in the medium/matrix we are immersed in, it’s more acceptable to believe an omnipotent individual decided to make us. And nothing else.

Not only that, in that reality, the one I believe I am actually existing in, individuals have killed and died FOR THAT BELIEF. AND EVEN STUPIDER THINGS.

It seems a reality where that happens (and genocide and baby rape) or where it is even imaginable would be infintismally improbable….yet here we are…

[Rollo]

It never stop to amaze me what people can do for money.

[Cidersomerset]

I'm channelling my inner female as I'm multi tasking...LOL
watching this thread, listening to the David Icke thread, and posting on
on the Jimmy Saville thread......

Aprox 29 mins David was saying in 1929 it was thought that there
was only one galaxy ours now estimate multi billions . I'm aprox 40
mins in and he talking about decoding a global reality in the
wireless cosmos, in an energetic holographic universe and much more......

Actually most of this first 2 hrs is about reality and the holographic universe
and at the atom level nothing is solid and real and we decode it .........

David Icke "Awaken!!" Wembley Arena | 25th October 2014 | Part 1

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Published on 27 Oct 2014


Listen To The World's Most Extraordinary Speaker & Exposer Of Truth:

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Can only find part one , it probably won't be up for long.......

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76422-Audio-only........David-Icke-Awaken---Wembley-Arena-25th-October-2014-Part-1&p=893848#post893848


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Most of this first 2 hrs is about reality and the holographic universe
and at the atom level nothing is solid and real and we decode it ....

Consciousness and what is real electricity , plasma and more...


http://www.theshiftofconsciousness.info/HolographicUniverse.jpg
http://joequinn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/David-Icke-Quotes-4.jpg

[Jake]

This just in... "THE UNIVERSE IS FLAT" :P "MANKIND IS ONLY 4,000 YEARS OLD" "COLUMBUS DISCOVERED AMERICA" "BEN FRANKLIN INVENTED ELECTRICITY" "THE MOON IS MADE OF CHEESE" "THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS THAT LEAD TO BRIAN'S STATEMENT WAS A FLUKE"

Too bad, i kinda liked him...

Jake.

[avid]

Brian Cox - the grinning 'useful idiot' of mainstream 'science', good-looking, appealing to the 'masses', and spouting the diatribe so eloquently he's almost hypnotising us! Oh dear - how gullible are the masses - he almost glares at us if we dare to challenge his 'absolute truth'.
Brian - 'cherry-picked' from Manchester - you seem to be so closeted in your views you may really be mind-controlled, and a wee bit of a celebrity. A mind like a library, but with a load of 'truth tomes' missing. You are a prized media-puppet! Undeserving of medals of course, those are only given to the 'chosen few', who are awarded such emblems of subserviency by the 'Powers-That-Be' in promoting their causes.
Anything with 'Brian Cox' in it - don't let the children see him, he's spouting clouded nonsense as 'fact'! Sorry about that, I thought he was so nice - once!

[donk]

I mean really, how different from believing we are alone in the universe is it to believe that one individual posed the IDEA to another individual (or the rest of their tribe) 10k or so years ago: I have an idea, instead of living in harmony with our home like the rest of our species has for millions of years--let's make the land and animals OURS, let's OWN that sh!t....or some similar scenario.

Instead, we let anomalous forces we don't understand shape our reality, pretend like that stuff "just happened, it's human nature"...creating this reality where it’s upsetting to others to dare question those forces, and where the "theory" that individuals decided to arrange human life this way is nearly unthinkable.

We have to start looking at the talking heads of entities as what they really are, mouth pieces for INDIVIDUALS hiding behind the entities they assign the responsibility to.

Which makes the real question and debate: why would this beebeecee entity want to attach an emotional charge to whether or not ETs exist? What are they REALLY deflecting on to this bobblehead so that it can never be rationally discussed (or more importantly, effectively acted upon)?

[janette]

How disappointing,he's a clever guy but his mind is closed. Or its been closed for him.

[jc71]

This is my problem with this guy too...

He states absolutes as though he has worked out many "definites" in the world of astronomy and physics, and in my opinion anyone who is in no doubt that they know absolute answers can not be serious.

If he said things more like "from what I have studied, I believe that X and Y" then that would be fine, but he says "In the beginning, matter exploded out of the big bang at xx.x million light years per second" or other such absolute statements that he cannot possibly "know". He can only theorise like everyone else and should be humble enough to acknowledge that he is sharing his theories, not absolute truths.

End of mini-rant :-)

JC

[truthseekerdan]

Sure Humanity is Unique...

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

http://statusmind.com/images/2013/02/FunnyFacebookStatusMindPictures-1639.jpg

[ghostrider]

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[/COLOR]goes against what ET's say , they say the human form is the most common in the universe , although there are life forms that are human like that have wings and can fly , human forms that are fish like , some forms that have high acid content skin that you cannot touch , this calls for a photo of a the plejaren ET Ptaah =ptaah is on the right , they we called angels in the past for they have a glow about them ...http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/images/9/90/Billy_and_a_Plejaren_person.jpg

[Yetti]

I do not know what kind of weed you smoke but I hardly disagree with you, just take one of the photos of the deep space hubble telescope and you'll see thousands upon thousands of GALAXIES , and this is only a point on the night sky, think about. What you just state is a nonsense of biblical proportions!

[Lifebringer]

Hardly surprising at all. He's the new BBC poster boy for science.

Everything that comes out of this propaganda machine robot's mouth should be taken with a huge pinch of salt in my opinion.

More like a shovel, but I don't think its salt. LOL

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And these dolts will be teaching the children? Yikes!

[Lifebringer]

Paid to close other minds for the future. WE must demand credentials and have someone quiz his dome on tv. If he gets angry because the question goes against program, then you know.

[Lifebringer]

I mean really, how different from believing we are alone in the universe is it to believe that one individual posed the IDEA to another individual (or the rest of their tribe) 10k or so years ago: I have an idea, instead of living in harmony with our home like the rest of our species has for millions of years--let's make the land and animals OURS, let's OWN that sh!t....or some similar scenario.responsibility to.

1.Which makes the real question and debate: why would this beebeecee entity want to attach an emotional charge to whether or not ETs exist?

2.What are they REALLY deflecting on to this bobblehead so that it can never be rationally discussed (or more importantly, effectively acted upon)?

A. Because to believe is faith, and to have faith they exist, brings the manifestation for the good guys/benevolents that can kick their butt, can happen.
The more that believe in angels, the more angels will be sent by Creator God.
They don't want that manifestation of them being gone, getting their butts kicked or the idea of them going to jail, but they are like, so late for that. Karma is on it's way along with all the prayers from the suffering inflicted upon the people for corporate greed, lies, resources, wars, land grabs.:target::juggle::wizard::cool:

[Lifebringer]

That's not weed he's smoking, he's doing dope/heroin if he thinks that. The duper is now officially the laughing stock of the world.

[Lifebringer]

Well they said "hello" to me and asked was anyone there, can you hear me? I was in meditation almost near sleep, but yet clear as a bell, "Hello, hello? Is any one here Can anyone here me?" Really awoken my mind to what is possible. This happened almost 3 weeks ago possibly 4 I think I posted here about it.
Amazing.

[Becky]

Sorry if someone's already mentioned this, but is Brian Cox just focussing on the 3D life? I bet he didn't take other dimensions into account. Even on a 3rd dimensional level he's being very blinkered. Yes, he's a BBC boy.

[Mike Gorman]

Cox is a traditional materialist science boy - he is as mainstream as it is possible to be, he knows his text book physics and passed all his exams but he is not qualified to state this - the man lacks imagination

[MorningFox]

A classic case of consuming too much fluoride ;)

[Cidersomerset]

I'd like to see Coxy watch and comment honestly on this deathbed disclosure.....LOL



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Published on 21 Oct 2014


Shortly before Boyd Bushman passed away on August 7, 2014, he was video
recorded candidly speaking about his personal experiences with Area 51, UFOs,
aliens and anti-gravity ideas.

Boyd was a retired Senior Scientist for Lockheed Martin. His career spanned over
forty years, was awarded many patents, and included work with defense
contractors Hughes Aircraft, General Dynamics, Texas Instruments, and Lockheed Martin.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d2JBkjfAZu8/VEnCuI7M_yI/AAAAAAAAK0Y/AtIfKa-ozZI/s1600/area%2B51%2Bufo%2Balien%2B(2).png


http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1989945.1414510844!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/index_635_390/boyd-bushman.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j2YL-Yw6baA/VEp8fnQxGaI/AAAAAAAASHA/m8e_sD665SU/s1600/04%2Barea%2B51%2Bufo%2Balien%2B-%2Bconfessions%2Blockheed.jpg

http://humansarefree.com/2014/10/the-deathbed-confession-of-area-51.html

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76237-Boyd-Bushman-His-Last-Interview-A-Documentary-on-Area-51-and-UFOs-over-Tucson-Arizona&p=894783#post894783

[Cidersomerset]

Dying Ex-CIA Worker Comes Forward About Area 51 & Aleins

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Published on 23 May 2013


At an undisclosed location, with Richard Dolans. My gut feeling is this guy is
telling the truth, I mean it REALLY seems like he isn't making this up. I mean
come on, he's on his deathbed.

[Omni]

I'd like to see Coxy watch and comment honestly on this deathbed disclosure.....LOL

The alien picture is likely of an alien toy sold at reportedly kmart for $10. Let me dig up a link:
https://mobile.twitter.com/webster1114/status/526755824841281536/photo/1

It is possible they made the toy after realizing the picture would be revealed. However I think Boyd was duped. I don't think Boyd is lying, but it's a very likely thing that the alien picture is a $10 kmart toy. From what I gathered he got the picture from another source, and did not take it himself.

[Cidersomerset]

The alien picture is likely of an alien toy sold at reportedly kmart for $10. Let me dig up a link:
https://mobile.twitter.com/webster11...281536/photo/1

It is possible they made the toy after realizing the picture would be revealed. However I think Boyd
was duped. I don't think Boyd is lying, but it's a very likely thing that the alien picture is a $10 kmart
toy. From what I gathered he got the picture from another source, and did not take it himself.

Yeah that's a possibility as I did mention when I added this article to post one....




added later .....Deathbed confession of senior Lockheed Martin Scientist and the
ET's he interacted with were real and hominoid........October 2014

Of course it could be a hoax or disinfo, but it does not look like it is......




I think as you say if he was duped , Boyd did not seem to think so, and
he seemed to trust his sources and he had first hand experience of a
lot of the information and to give this final disclosure, is the sort of
message several witness's have done to clear their conscious before
they meet their maker , or whatever they believe.

Of course psyops , mind control, blackmail and just plain false info
could be used to muddy the waters. The ET does not look convincing
in some pictures but credible in others.


This is the toy you are speaking of , which could be part of a hoax
on Boyd by his former colleagues either on purpose or maybe
they were compromised. Or like the toy Greys they are put out
to confuse the publc into thinking its all rubbish. Who knows...

http://www.rense.com/general96/TYark.jpg


The Grey Alien image is well known to the public.....

http://acuwebsites.com/tomsphotos/halloween/MoreExtreme/New-Mor/86135.jpghttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/other8/greyalien.jpg

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Independent Photo analyst of the original photos and their date would certainly
help....


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y5yrztqL3Jc/VEePGhn1t1I/AAAAAAAAJT0/NPW4O0B5zRM/s1600/10733921_10204073365488369_6868322620406707079_o.jpg