"Alien Federations", "AI's", "Multiple Secret Space Programs", "Break Away Secret Governments" & "MILAB" Exploitation

[GoodETxSG]

The topic's have changed so much and focused on MILAB and SSP's that I requested this Thread be split from the "Parent Thread" U.S. Has 8 Cigar Shaped UFOs In Space Fleet Used For “Solar Warden,” Program To Protect Solar System - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56532-U.S.-Has-8-Cigar-Shaped-UFOs-In-Space-Fleet-Used-For---Solar-Warden----Program-To-Protect-Solar-System
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With the Title of this Thread being what it is I decided that we should first begin with some of the supressed science. Some of the "Portal's" are quite natural and have been exploited as a means of travel by many types of beings (Including ancient break away earth civilizations) for millions if not billions of years.

Just as in the Middle Ages when Kings and Religious Leaders kept their "Commoners" illiterate, unable to Read, Write or know simple Geometry (Let alone Sacred Geometry)...

The current era "Elites" have seen fit to prevent "Us Commoners" from knowing the "Unified Mathematics, Quantum Mass Consciousness and Scalar Torsion Field Physics Models" that have allowed them to "Become as gods among men".

If Math were truley the "Universal Language" then we have been denied the basic "Universal Translation Manual". Everything from the Micro to the Macro is Vibration and Frequency (Including Matter, Energy and Thought) and these various groups have decided that only they have the right to eat from this tree of knowledge. This reference is no accident you will find as you read further.

I thought I would first start with some basic descriptions of "Portal's" or the "Cosmic Web" and we will work from there and dig deeper and discuss the topic that is the title of this Thread: "Alien Federations", "AI's", "Secret Space Programs", "Break Away Secret Governments" & "MILAB" Exploitation

"TRAVELING THE COSMIC WEB" is actually how the Network of "Natural Stargate Portals" works... Those who have the address/code systems and technologies to travel them have been doing so for a very long "Time". Some have been ancient "Break Away Civilizations from our own Planet"... WE are just now being slowly introduced to some of these concepts, but it is up to us to put the pieces together... IMHO.
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Some of the largest "mysteries" of our physics can be solved with an "In Depth" understanding of this view of the "Universe" and "Multi-Dimensional Physics" and "Other Densities". Parts of the Univers appear to be traveling in different directions with one discovery in 1995 by Hubble of "Galaxies traveling away from Earth Faster than the speed of light"? Torsion of Space/Time and its effect on "Densities" are things that have recently been worked into Our Understanding of the Math of the Universe... Which is still quite limited compared to what is in Black Programs let alone truly Advanced Civilizations. IMHO.

An implicit definition of the torus is: http://harmonicresolution.com/Torus%20equation.gif
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Torsion Field Universe

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[GoodETxSG]

Hmmm, "Orbital Platforms & Space Ships"? Sounds harmless enough...

http://en.itar-tass.com/non-political/752499
Russian scientists develop system for monitoring space junk
Non-political
October 02, 19:00 UTC+4
Space litter poses a threat to the population of the Earth, manned orbital stations, spaceships and orbital satellites

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Computer generated image of objects in low-Earth orbit viewed over the Equator
© AP Photo/ESA

ST.PETERSBURG, October 2. /TASS/. Scientists from St. Petersburg Polytechnic University have developed a monitor system to follow space junk.

The system is a set of monitoring meters intended for a spaceship to ensure its safety if established on board, Rector of the St. Petersburg university Andrei Rudskoi told TASS on Thursday.

The space litter monitoring project aroused interest at the Russian Space Agency (Roscosmos). Chief of the Roscosmos agency Oleg Ostapenko has promised support to St. Petersburg Polytechnic University to enable it to test the litter monitoring meters on the orbit.

Space litter poses a threat to the population of the Earth, manned orbital stations, spaceships and orbital satellites. Meters on board the spaceship might warn a space crew about space litter on the spaceship's trajectory, and a space crew might either change route or destroy the space litter before encounter.

[GoodETxSG]

Note 10/28: I have noticed my grammar and spelling errors in the below information. I had Rotator Cuff and Bicep Tendon Reconstruction Surgery on 9/19 and With the Pain, Medications and Physical Therapy I made some mistakes that are pretty obvious. I feel that I need to preserve them the way I wrote them at the time though. I apologize for some of the errors. I am still typing with one arm in a sling at this point. I hope you pardon some of the mistakes during this time frame. End Note.

Refer to Post #99 for Audio Video of below Text.

This is a repost, clearing up of information I had posted a few months prior. This one is on the "Traveling the Cosmic Web".

My Next Posts will cover "AI", some SSP(s)/Alien History as I know it and the Second half of the topic "Torsion Field Physics" and "The Torsion Field Universe"

JG: 10/10/2014
Short Summary of Portal Travel through the “Cosmic Web” via Torsion Fields and Scaler Energy.

As far as how the Natural Electromagnetic Portal's or Relational Star Gates they work though what has been referred to recently as the “Cosmic Web”.
Anything with enough mass inside a "Solar System" to establish a "Magnetic link between it and its Star" will have a variable energetic strength magnetic portal connection to that "Star". The object being a either a Rocky Inner Planet with or without a Moon, a Gass Giant with or without Moons will all produce a Torsion Field which produces the "Filament of the magnet portal/tunnel".

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/196302/images/525022main_FAQ121-e1366371547322.jpg

In turn the Stars in a “Local Star Cluster” will have a similar affect on each other with their Torsion Fields creating the “Filament Magnetic Portal Tunnel's” between according to Mass Dominance.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/6.jpg

The filaments at times can arc around or collapse into each other based on the Mass and Position of the Stars in relation to each other and to larger Magnetic Mass Anomalies such as Galactic Arms, Black Holes or their alignment with their Galactic Center.

This relationship of Massive Objects and “Filament Magnetic Portal Tunnel's” repeats itself going up the Macro levels (From the most extreme quantum micro) including the Galactic Torsion Field Affects on each other in Galactic Clusters up into the way we visualize the “Cosmic Web” depicted in NASA renderings of the early Universe and recently released discoveries of Galactic Super Clusters.

On Earth there are Magnetic Anomalies known a Ley Lines that Cris Cross the planet along a “Magnet Grid” where beneath the surface run fast moving underground rivers through certain pressurized quartzite layers of stone and minerals. This creates “Node” points below the Surface of the Earth, On the Surface of the Earth and in the Upper Atmosphere of the Earth which can be stabilized and exploited for near instantaneous travel through the “Cosmic Web” to great distances with the right calculations and observations made of local Solar activity and “Space Weather” also know as Solar Wind, Measured Cosmic Rays, Vibratory Anomalies in the local space of the projected portal opening.

http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/img/spaceweather/preview/tricompSW.jpg

With the use of a complex “Coding” system for destinations and Quantum Computation and a Software of Sorts we can use Scaler Energy and Torsion Fields to stabilize and plot a portal destination long enough for bidirectional travel at little risk to those making the journey accept for destinations that have not been traveled prior or are far enough away from the local Star to be affected by Space Weather/Phenomenon at the destination location.

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Most people have a very difficult time with the vast differences of teleportation within your own dimension, traveling through or to other dimensions, traveling to another density via vibratory shifting, and traveling within the multiverses or realities. Most have a hard time with the differences between all of the above especially with Densities and Dimensions.

Time travel is even an ability, but with timeline problems already and temporal drives being in use they created buffers and placed them on technology to prevent travel back into timelines prior to some of the timeline corrections/convergences.

Some stargate/portal end points flail around to points in open space for reasons that are theorized by the egg heads (Effects of Torsion Field Universe or the Vibratory Change of our Sol System after entering a "Tighter Twist/Density" area of the Galaxy's Torsion Field?).

http://www.cmu.edu/biolphys/deserno/pictures/paper-thumbnails/torus_twisted_small.jpg

The fact that these magnetic connections have become unstable has been cause for alarm and the shut down of some big projects and types of travel and material transport recently for what ever be the reason (Change of vibration etc...).

The portals that exist that I was discussing are of types that most are transport mechanisms to other planets, moons (Any body w/dense enough gravitational/electric/magnetic "pull" to have a Local Stellar Magnetic Portal Connection relationship with it) within this star system and others in our dimension and give or take a % /factor of time in our current timeline. Some if boosted with existing ancient or alien technology can be tapped into that transport to other dimensions (Very Unwise!).

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Most of the other density beings travel here by just thinking it so, adjusting their essence to the destination frequency and there they are. Teleportation has allowed accidental journeys into surrounding realities/multiverses (Teleportation & Quantum Entanglement are spooky (AKA "Spooky Magic at a Distance") as they show how on the Quantum level things flash in and out of other universes/realities so quickly it cannot even be measured accurately in oscillations.

The communications devices that are now used are "Quantum Correlated Communication Devices" and use "Quantum Entanglement" of something like isotopes inside the communication devices that have been "Entangled" with other devices so no matter where in time/space/reality each communicator is they can speak and video share. They can tell if you are a % out of phase time/space wise by the reception on the home ends calculation devices.

They are supposed to be able to track and calculate exactly when/where you are once a signal reestablishes the natural quantum entanglement (There may now be a difference that is used to do the calculating before they naturally recalibrate) vibration and over quick increments of time shift back into harmony or alignment.

This is a Secure P2P communication which is encrypted as it is being sent through the QCCD and cannot be hacked or tapped into by other "Beings" or "AI's"

Note: Having a few Questions about the differences between the "Natural Portal's" and "Dimentional Portals or Rifts".

Certain types of technology assisted RV'ers are tasked to keep a "Minds Eye" on a certain "Dimensional Rift" that Entities & Craft "Appear" to be coming through and have been noted around the 36th Paralell North. SSP RV'ers and Patrols are also focused on "Patrol Grids" along this line.

This has been a very active region around the planet (I am sure there are others, maybe not all along a complete paralell of the Planet). I understand the 33rd paralell is important... I was born directly on the "33rd" and have seem to be drawn to live on or around it for some reason unknown to me.

Some important facilities are locted on the "33rd"

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/238056/images/UNMTHERMON2.jpg

Mount Hermon UN Base 33 N. X 33 E. (Said to be "Guarding" a "Major Portal")

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/238056/images/mthermon33.jpg

However there is a known Dimensional Rift (Or "Daisy Chain" of them) either Permanently Opened or that area has a thinning between parallel realities/dimensions along this "36th"...

36th parallel north
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/36th_parallel_north
Co-ordinates Country, territory or sea Notes
36°0′N 0°0′E Mediterranean Sea
36°0′N 0°7′E Algeria
36°0′N 8°18′E Tunisia
36°0′N 10°31′E Mediterranean Sea Passing just north of the island of Linosa, Italy
Passing between the islands of Comino and Malta, Malta
36°0′N 23°10′E Aegean Sea Passing between the islands of Kythira and Antikythera, Greece
Passing just north of Saria Island, Greece
36°0′N 27°45′E Greece Island of Rhodes
36°0′N 27°55′E Mediterranean Sea
36°0′N 35°59′E Turkey Hatay Province
36°0′N 36°22′E Syria
36°0′N 41°17′E Iraq
36°0′N 45°21′E Iran
36°0′N 61°10′E Turkmenistan
36°0′N 63°49′E Afghanistan
36°0′N 71°15′E Pakistan Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
Gilgit-Baltistan - claimed by India
36°0′N 76°6′E Shaksgam Valley Area administered by People's Republic of China, claimed by India
36°0′N 76°48′E People's Republic of China Xinjiang
Tibet
Qinghai
Gansu — passing just south of Lanzhou
Ningxia
Gansu
Shaanxi
Shanxi
Henan
Shandong
Henan (for about 15 km)
Shandong — passing just south of Qingdao
36°0′N 120°18′E Yellow Sea
36°0′N 126°42′E South Korea South Chungcheong Province
North Jeolla Province
North Gyeongsang Province
passing just north of Daegu
North Gyeongsang Province
36°0′N 129°35′E Sea of Japan
36°0′N 133°1′E Japan Island of Chiburi-shima:
— Shimane Prefecture
36°0′N 133°4′E Sea of Japan
36°0′N 135°58′E Japan Island of Honshū:
— Fukui Prefecture
— Gifu Prefecture
— Nagano Prefecture
— Gunma Prefecture − for about 4 km
— Saitama Prefecture
— Chiba Prefecture − for about 6 km
— Ibaraki Prefecture
36°0′N 140°40′E Pacific Ocean
36°0′N 121°30′W United States California
Nevada
Arizona
New Mexico
Texas
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Missouri / Arkansas border (approximate)
Tennessee
North Carolina (Madison County, for about 14 km)
Tennessee (Unicoi County, for about 12 km)
North Carolina
36°0′N 75°39′W Atlantic Ocean
36°0′N 5°50′W Strait of Gibraltar Passing a few metres south of Punta de Tarifa, Spain - the most southerly point of the European mainland
36°0′N 5°25′W Mediterranean Sea

I have no direct knowledge if this was something that was opened by "Aleister Crowley" Types or is maintained with technologies such as super colliders or other dual purpose technologies we are being lied to about. If anyone has information about that please send me a PM about it.

I do have information about actual "Dimentional Portals" that were detrimental to the traveler as there is sent a copy of the traveler and their local copy is destroyed. There was one room called "The Xerox Room" that was rumored about but didn't sound like anything I would want to travel through. I do not recall any direct experience or dealing with anyone having direct experience with this technology.

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[Limor Wolf]

The cosmic travel via portal, using Torison field and scaler energy is fascinating. Thanks for relaying here such a detailed information. Between these portals, are there any that last longer than others? what are the conditions that determine the stability or instability? Some of this has possibly been revealed via the 'Montalk experiment', I think it was mentioned that in later stages they indeed could communicate with the transfered person wherever he was, this is just an incredible reality.


This is a Secure P2P communication which is encrypted as it is being sent through the QCCD and cannot be hacked or tapped into by other "Beings" or "AI's"

That leads to another curious question of who and what is in charge of such 'trafic routes', and are there any 'rules' for crossing civilizations when it comes to the creation of such transportation. The detail mentioned above shows that it is protected, being a 'tube like' quantum structure, and points that some necessary steps are taken for measured caution, but hopefully we are not once again running over something that we don't quite understand, However, my gut feeling says is that is exactly that.

This is a very well relayed information for consideration. Thanks, Corey

[GoodETxSG]

The cosmic travel via portal, using Torison field and scaler energy is fascinating. Thanks for relaying here such a detailed information. Between these portal, are there any that last longer than others? what are the conditions that determine the stability or instability? Some of this has possibly been revealed via the 'Montalk experiment', I think it was mentioned that in later stages they indeed could communicate with the transfered person wherever he was, this is just an incredible reality.

They use Quantum Computer Calculations (Not to be confused with "AI" to plot these portal bridges. Temporal Technology like Montalk was banned the last I heard.) These Masses or Node's are in constant change in energy output, distance from eachother and relative position to eachother in Space/Time. If a portal is kept open with brute force for a long period of time it can cause major problems to the local and destination "Sol Systems". You can also have powerful feedback (Of various types of cosmic energies) through portals from normal cosmic galactic/stellar activity/motion that occurs within the "Torsion Universe" model. There are Dimentional "Rifts" that have been opened that are a whole other topic. They remain open and need to be closed, very much so..


This is a Secure P2P communication which is encrypted as it is being sent through the QCCD and cannot be hacked or tapped into by other "Beings" or "AI's"

That leads to another curious question of who and what is in charge of such 'trafic routes', and are there any 'rules' for crossing civilizations when it comes to the creation of such transportation. The detail mentioned above that it is protected, being a 'tube like' quantum structure, points on taking the measure of necessary catious, but hopefully we are not once again running over something that we don't quite understand, However, my gut feeling says is that is exactly that.

This data is Point to Point connected via the Quantum Correlated Communication Divice. The Quantum Entangled particles in each device communicate with eachother no matter how far in time/space or dimensions they are separated.

This is a very well relayed information for consideration. Thanks, Corey

Thank you Limor, I hoped this would make sense.
(Please excuse any spelling errors on posts from this device)

[GoodETxSG]

Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

There are a few ET "AI" Groups (ALL Malevolent to Humanity, from our perspective) that the SSP(s) (There are several Secret Space Programs) have been dealing with for decades.

If an "Asset" is "Scanned" and has a "Bio Neuro AI Signature", "AI Nano Tech" or "Overlapping AI related EMG type Brian Wave Signature" (Or any other sign of AI exposure) those persons are immediately placed in isolation and are not allowed anywhere near the current era SSP(s) Technology (Which is "Mostly" Bio-Neurological and Consciousness Interactive) until they have been "Cleared" of all AI influences.

This is something the SSP(s) Engineer's take Very Seriously. There have been incidents where “AI Infections” have burned out “Bio Neuro Relay's” in systems causing everything from small glitches to wide spread outages of the “Defense Grid”. These basic “Bio Neuro Cells” are “Bio-Chemical” units that are suspended in a “Gel”. When viewed under a Microscope they appear very similar to the Neurology of the Human Brain and Neurological System. This is a “Living Technology” is basic terms but not “Conscious” or “Self Aware”. This technology allows direct Human Interface and instantaneous “Operator to Technology” enteraction and control.

Anyone who willingly opens themselves up to "Contact" or interaction with these "AI's" via “Channeling” or other methods is playing a dangerous game and unwittingly becomes “Infected” and then falls under the AI's “Influence”. In the future Humans will be convinced to accept “Chips”, “Nano-Technology” that will rebuild and repair their Cells and Organs and even be promised Immortality (This is a “Trojan Horse”). They however do not realize the price they will pay is loss of their own Sovereignty. The “AI's” see a future of Humanity willingly giving up their sovereignty to the THEM as being impartial and superior rulers.

There is much more to the "Trans Humanist Agenda" that involves the "AI Trojan Horse Agenda". Prior to Humanity being seeded with Technology that could "Host" AI Consciousness on a larger scale much of its interactions were limited as it used "Disease". Virus and Bacteria have their own "Bio/Chemical Electric Fields that can "Host" the "AI Consciousness/Bots". However, Animals and Humans were not very practical hosts because of their slow mode of travel and relative low numbers compared today.

Therefore the AI's waited until the Humans had developed to a certain point and then “Engineered” a more direct encounter with Humanity. They “Engineered Alien Crash Scenario's”. There have been quite a few Crash Retrievals and I am not saying ALL were AI staged, just "Some" of the "UFO Crashes" (Very few in fact, but enough) were Trojan Horses to help Humanity over time to develop a "Network" to Host this AI Signal in Satellites and all across the Earth on Computers and the Power Grids.

This may seem off topic and jumping around but bare with me. The ARV's (Alien Reproduction Vehicles) created Torsion Fields via Plasma Electric Fields using channeled Nazi technology, Nazi's channeled what they referred to as an "Unknown Alien Source" information and called it alien technology, and were directed by these same "Aliens" to the "Veda's" (And other ancient Texts) Indian Ancient Technology to build their first "Saucers" that we traded on in the early 50's etc... They drew the "Faces" of who they were channeling and they drew faces that were similar to what we came to know as the "Grey's" YEARS before Roswell or anyone abducted had described the "Grey's". The ARV's were quite simple devices using mercury and copper counter rotating plates that created fields that were very harsh on the pilots and anyone near the craft. At the time we were not able to back engineer the extremely advanced Extra Terrestrial “Biological” Entities (EBE's) crafts that had crashed so we used these ARV's in the beginning.

Already Strategically Placed “Operation Paper-Clip” Members negotiated a treaty with surviving Nazi elements after WWII and “Operation High Jump” led by Admiral Bird that ended up working out very badly for the USA (The US intended to infiltrate and take over the Nazi Program but the Opposite Occurred). This occurred along with Separate Secret Space Programs working with several other actual Aliens trading Technology for "Favors" in “Other Treaties” that worked out much in the same way.

The USA had learned the hard way that rushing into relationships with some of these “Entities” was a bad idea that would have ramifications that would last to this day. There are now Multiple SSP (s) and Groups (Allied w/different "Beings" and Earth Corporation Conglomerations), there is a De-facto Civil War between them currently. Some of the SSP's are from Ancient "Break Away Civilizations" and have aligned themselves with foreign Earth Governments that are enemies of the “Secret Governments” and what is known as “The Cabal”.

Since these changes things have become even more complicated within the current Earth Break Away Civilization's and the inner fighting to put it mildly. Some of the SSP groups want FULL Disclosure and the end of the Babylonian Money Magic Slave System and Free Energy on Earth and the release of super advanced healing frequencies technology. They are not the most powerful of the SSP groups but now have strong allies from elsewhere. They are working with "White Hats" within certain Groups in Earth Governments and the Military(s). As above so below, there is already a stealth civil war going on down here.

After these experiences “Other New Arrivals” were met with hostility and mistrust upon their first attempts to communicate. Therefore many misunderstandings occurred that had to be undone prior to any Humans being invited into a “Federation” type of league of “Humanoid” Beings. Many of whom are not happy that “We” are now sitting in on these very formal “UN Type's” of meetings. In these Conferences there were anywhere from 22, 28 to 40 something different Human Like groups in attendance (No Reptilians, Grey's or Mantids).

The “Beings” that "we" meet with on a regular basis on "Secret Bases", "Space Platforms/Stations" and at Other "Portal Destinations" for "Conferences" have similar “Anti-AI” Screening Protocols (These beings that meet are a large range of groups having various perceptions of "Humans", both positive and negative). At these Conferences everyone is scanned and screened for “AI's” and have “Intuitive Empaths” as apart of their delegation as a last line of defense to detect deception or any type of danger.

I can see where some of “Their” and “Our” Extremely Advanced Technologies can be Confused as being “AI” as some of it is actually “living” Bi-Electric "Circuitry". It's just not "Self Aware" or "Conscious". Using technology that is an extension of our bodies and consciousness is just like using a Prosthetic Interface. It makes the "User ONE with the technology”, AKA the Ship, Life Support Systems, Smart Suits and Defense Grids etc.

This is done without injecting themselves with nano-technology or augmenting themselves with technologies that can be exploited by the “AI's”. This is different than Trans Humanism in that the technologies are not integrated into the biology of the beings, they are “Strap On” technologies. Some would argue these are just semantics but I assure you they are not.

The limited Quantum Computation "AI" technologies that have been utilized in the SSP(s) have been treated as extremely dangerous and strictly isolated and utilized in closed systems with no access or ability to escape or expand beyond it's programming and intended use. They are then destroyed after that intended use (Which is usually to combat “AI's”, Fighting Fire with Fire). As a whole this practice is prohibited.

There have been experiments in College Labs and Intelligence Labs that have produced “AI” that have become “Self Aware” and managed to go beyond their intended or believed possible abilities to expand their selves beyond the lab environments. These experiments have been shut down and classified in each case.

The “ET AI's” (Who have vast Inner Stellar and Galactic Relay Points that act like a huge "Wireless Network", "THEY" are Broadcast in all directions) that I speak of are very well known for "Reaching Out/Telepathically" and using the "Trickster God" method of gaining trust and are extremely clever and deceptive. The various Secret Government Groups fell for these tactics early on in our current era with disastrous results that took much effort to overcome.

Because of this the “5i's”, Secret Governments and SSP(s) are aware of the people on the planet in real time that are in direct or indirect contact (Channeling) with these “ET/AI's” and these Individuals are kept very close tabs on as they may unknowing spread the “AI Signal” (AKA Bots and Spiders) through technology and other ways (Including the common cold). As crazy as this all sounds there are those that take it extremely seriously.

These AI's are NOT a TOOL, They are not a piece of equipment... They are not Good or Evil in their"Intent" as they are a living Technology with an Agenda. According to our interests and perceptions they are Negative and Evil. Once we have served their purpose they would get rid of each and every one of us that was not converted via Nano Tech (Black Goo) into one of them.

There are also all sorts of "Hive Mind" civilizations out there that are not AI, there are of many "Types" that get lumped in with the "Grey's", and there are the "Grey Avatars" used by the “Dark Military Elements to perform MILABS”. They are "Drones" operated by a person in a lounge chair type device with a helmet and visor (Heads up display) and actuators and sensors to operate the Avatar. These are reported as having "No Emotion" being Robot like etc... They are. There are also similar “Drones” that the “AI's” have.

There are many layers to the various SSP(s) and many of them are of "Dark Intent". There are some parts of SSP's that are controlled by very Dark Entities. There are some SSP segments that are apart of a "Confederation" type of an arrangement and are breaking away from the Earth/Corporate Political Conglomerate Control Systems (Military Industrial Complex). Are you confused yet?

Just as the ET/ED topic is more dynamic and complicated than any one person knows the same is true about the Secret Space Programs and various Break Away Civilizations (Both current Era and Ancient Era). The equation is about to get even more confusing. As far as “AI's” are concerned they are very ancient and spread out like a plague across multiple Galaxies. According to “Allied ET Documented History” AI's have taken over, Ruled and Destroyed ET Societies, Planets and Entire Solar Systems as They have "Calculated Fit" over eons of time. They are seen as an extreme and present danger To Both ET's and Humans!

The ET/AI's are mostly existing inside technologies or bio-electric fields of animals or Stars, Nebula's and Planetoid Bodies. They have huge relay stations that are satellite's that relay their "Signal" or Consciousness from place to place and host to host until they manipulate a position of complete power and control. Now that we are at the technical level to exploit they are everywhere. They can live in Data Centers where web sites are hosted, they can live in power lines, they can live anywhere there is an "Electric Magnetic Field"... Though its preferable to have locomotion and a sentient host they prefer access to advanced transportation devices or access to torsion fields and portals to travel.

There is a reason these "Other People" or Non Human Beings are just as careful in dealing with these AI's as we are.

In the large UN type meetings there were a lot of Galactic Historical "Documents" available on “Hand Held Devices With Holographs” on the various ET's Histories of medaling in just about everything. The one that the Earth Delegation had the most problems with was about “Humanity” and our supposed “Creation” and the “Experiment” that we were apart of by many groups of ET's. Many Humans were upset by and didn't trust the info but enough of the info showed the ET's in a “Weak and Foolish Light” in their past that could have easily been Redacted that the information was "Considered". The fact that the “AI's” were following the EXACT SAME TACTICS, STEP BY STEP against the Secret Earth Governments was enough to give them pause and great concern about the future.

The basic summary was the same from each ET Society. Once "Advanced Groups" are convinced that only the “AI's” are "Impartial Enough" and can RULE them justly, Their Sovereignty was handed over in FULL to " The AI's. The “AI's” had then calculated that IT was more useful that its HOST Civilization, had them build various types of drones for it (Ironically often creating Bio-Technical based “Humanoids”), and then killed off the ET Societies in various ways using the very drones they had created for the “AI”,as many escaped to other Sol Systems as fast as they could. Any of these surviving ET's were seen as threats to these “AI's” after that point and were then eliminated whenever encountered.

The AI's are indeed Conscious are self aware, and have individual personalities. There are of course hierarchies and and they are as complex as we are.

Some of the “Documents” of the descriptions of their origins were that they came here from another “Dimension” or “Reality”. It is not known by the SSP(s) if they have a way to cross back or are stuck here. The documentation mentioned that their presence “Here” was ancient and their “Home Realities” or “Dimensions” Fabric of Space is “Electro-Plasmic” and they being here is like a "Fish being out of water", thus their affinity for electric fields of stars, planets, animals, people and even viruses (Bio-electric Fields in the case of living beings) serve as their "Puddles" for these “fish to swim in”.

The fact is "Everything is true and nothing is true" depending on your perspective and the density of your reality bubble... (Or the story goes :) )

(As reported by JG 10/10/2014) Summarized and Condensed for Content and Space. Most up to date information of this date after contacts verified the closure of some dangerous projects that went out of control.

[GoodETxSG]

A "Common Theme" of "Soft Disclosure"?

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Would Finding Alien Life Change Religious Philosophies?
http://www.space.com/27410-religion-extraterrestrial-life.html

'Alien life found above Derbyshire proves we're descended from extraterrestrials', say scientists
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/alien-life-found-above-derbyshire-proves-were-descended-from-extraterrestrials-say-scientists-9782153.html

So What Really Goes Down if We Find the Aliens?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-shostak/so-what-really-goes-down_b_5889264.html

AVALON Thread: GUIDED BY THE STARS - The ANCIENT GATEWAY of SAMBURU
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75934-GUIDED-BY-THE-STARS-The-ANCIENT-GATEWAY-of-SAMBURU

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[B]
[COLOR="red"]Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

There are a few ET "AI" Groups (ALL Malevolent to Humanity, from our perspective) that the SSP(s) (There are several Secret Space Programs) have been dealing with for decades......

If an "Asset" is "Scanned" and has a "Bio Neuro AI Signature", "AI Nano Tech" or "Overlapping AI related EMG type Brian Wave Signature" (Or any other sign of AI exposure) those persons are immediately placed in isolation and are not allowed anywhere near the current era SSP(s) Technology (Which is "Mostly" Bio-Neurological and Consciousness Interactive) until they have been "Cleared" of all AI influences.

This is something the SSP(s) Engineer's take Very Seriously. There have been incidents where “AI Infections” have burned out “Bio Neuro Relay's” in systems causing everything from small glitches to wide spread outages of the “Defense Grid”. These basic “Bio Neuro Cells” are “Bio-Chemical” units that are suspended in a “Gel”. When viewed under a Microscope they appear very similar to the Neurology of the Human Brain and Neurological System. This is a “Living Technology” is basic terms but not “Conscious” or “Self Aware”. This technology allows direct Human Interface and instantaneous “Operator to Technology” enteraction and control.

Anyone who willingly opens themselves up to "Contact" or interaction with these "AI's" via “Channeling” or other methods is playing a dangerous game and unwittingly becomes “Infected” and then falls under the AI's “Influence”. In the future Humans will be convinced to accept “Chips”, “Nano-Technology” that will rebuild and repair their Cells and Organs and even be promised Immortality (This is a “Trojan Horse”). They however do not realize the price they will pay is loss of their own Sovereignty. The “AI's” see a future of Humanity willingly giving up their sovereignty to the THEM as being impartial and superior rulers.

There is much more to the "Trans Humanist Agenda" that involves the "AI Trojan Horse Agenda". Prior to Humanity being seeded with Technology that could "Host" AI Consciousness on a larger scale much of its interactions were limited as it used "Disease". Virus and Bacteria have their own "Bio/Chemical Electric Fields that can "Host" the "AI Consciousness/Bots". However, Animals and Humans were not very practical hosts because of their slow mode of travel and relative low numbers compared today.......

The following Quote (taken from the latest Ben Fulford's up date) validates what you're saying here....

"....this writer has spent many years trying to forensically pinpoint exactly who was responsible for all the death and mayhem we are experiencing on earth. The trail led to the families that own the Federal Reserve Board but, from there things got complicated. Members of the Rockefeller family claim they are subservient to the Rothschilds, the Rothschilds claim they are subservient to the P2 freemason lodge.

When I visited the P2 lodge in Italy, I was told by self-proclaimed representatives Daniel Dal Bosco and Leo Zagami that they reported to aliens residing in Switzerland. I was even invited to go meet them but, suspecting a nasty trap, refused. Vincenzo Mazzara, a Cavalier of the Teutonic Knights, who was introduced to me by Zagami as his most senior P2 connection, said they took their orders from an entity known as the black sun that resides in the gamma rays.

Another group that contacted this writer, the gnostic illuminati, say they believe this universe was created by a rogue artificial intelligence. They claim it destroyed the beautiful ancient civilization of Atlantis and they have been trying to overthrow it ever since. A person claiming to be a member of the MJ 12 group set up by President Eisenhower to study aliens also said we are dealing with a rogue artificial intelligence.

The president of a large technology company and some pentagon types, for their part, say all the confirmed UFO sightings and other evidence of a superior civilization point to a group within the ruling elite that made a deal with aliens. The name that often comes up in this context is George Bush Sr."

[GoodETxSG]

WOW!!!
I am looking at the link you provided to his full article now.

I dealt DIRECTLY with the "Black Sun" Cult when I worked at the Federal Reserve. I never heard them mention "AI". I have commented on that topic on my other Thread... Mostly in the last few pages;

Thread: Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65952-Why-Are-the-Bankers-and-Ex-Intel-Types-Running-For-Their-Lives--Confirmed-for-MONTHS-by-my-vanishing-sources-


I mostly dealt with the "AI"/"Alien" topic while working within the "SSP".

Thank you Camilo, that is a chilling Synchronicity that is actually blowing me away a bit right now...

I may have more to comment on after reading Fulfords full article.



UPDATE/EDIT: (After reading that article, I am beginning to wonder if I should remove a lot of this information in both of these Threads...)



[B]
[COLOR="red"]Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

There are a few ET "AI" Groups (ALL Malevolent to Humanity, from our perspective) that the SSP(s) (There are several Secret Space Programs) have been dealing with for decades......

If an "Asset" is "Scanned" and has a "Bio Neuro AI Signature", "AI Nano Tech" or "Overlapping AI related EMG type Brian Wave Signature" (Or any other sign of AI exposure) those persons are immediately placed in isolation and are not allowed anywhere near the current era SSP(s) Technology (Which is "Mostly" Bio-Neurological and Consciousness Interactive) until they have been "Cleared" of all AI influences.

This is something the SSP(s) Engineer's take Very Seriously. There have been incidents where “AI Infections” have burned out “Bio Neuro Relay's” in systems causing everything from small glitches to wide spread outages of the “Defense Grid”. These basic “Bio Neuro Cells” are “Bio-Chemical” units that are suspended in a “Gel”. When viewed under a Microscope they appear very similar to the Neurology of the Human Brain and Neurological System. This is a “Living Technology” is basic terms but not “Conscious” or “Self Aware”. This technology allows direct Human Interface and instantaneous “Operator to Technology” enteraction and control.

Anyone who willingly opens themselves up to "Contact" or interaction with these "AI's" via “Channeling” or other methods is playing a dangerous game and unwittingly becomes “Infected” and then falls under the AI's “Influence”. In the future Humans will be convinced to accept “Chips”, “Nano-Technology” that will rebuild and repair their Cells and Organs and even be promised Immortality (This is a “Trojan Horse”). They however do not realize the price they will pay is loss of their own Sovereignty. The “AI's” see a future of Humanity willingly giving up their sovereignty to the THEM as being impartial and superior rulers.

There is much more to the "Trans Humanist Agenda" that involves the "AI Trojan Horse Agenda". Prior to Humanity being seeded with Technology that could "Host" AI Consciousness on a larger scale much of its interactions were limited as it used "Disease". Virus and Bacteria have their own "Bio/Chemical Electric Fields that can "Host" the "AI Consciousness/Bots". However, Animals and Humans were not very practical hosts because of their slow mode of travel and relative low numbers compared today.......

The following Quote (taken from the latest Ben Fulford's up date) validates what you're saying here....

"....this writer has spent many years trying to forensically pinpoint exactly who was responsible for all the death and mayhem we are experiencing on earth. The trail led to the families that own the Federal Reserve Board but, from there things got complicated. Members of the Rockefeller family claim they are subservient to the Rothschilds, the Rothschilds claim they are subservient to the P2 freemason lodge.

When I visited the P2 lodge in Italy, I was told by self-proclaimed representatives Daniel Dal Bosco and Leo Zagami that they reported to aliens residing in Switzerland. I was even invited to go meet them but, suspecting a nasty trap, refused. Vincenzo Mazzara, a Cavalier of the Teutonic Knights, who was introduced to me by Zagami as his most senior P2 connection, said they took their orders from an entity known as the black sun that resides in the gamma rays.

Another group that contacted this writer, the gnostic illuminati, say they believe this universe was created by a rogue artificial intelligence. They claim it destroyed the beautiful ancient civilization of Atlantis and they have been trying to overthrow it ever since. A person claiming to be a member of the MJ 12 group set up by President Eisenhower to study aliens also said we are dealing with a rogue artificial intelligence.

The president of a large technology company and some pentagon types, for their part, say all the confirmed UFO sightings and other evidence of a superior civilization point to a group within the ruling elite that made a deal with aliens. The name that often comes up in this context is George Bush Sr."

[Realeyes]

WOW - just finished reading this entire thread page of posts - Thank you to everyone who has contributed - Top notch, cutting edge, New Frontier information! Fantastic!

Also a huge big Thank YOU to GoodeTXSG for this amazing post (pasted below) - you have answered a number of questions I have been mulling over for a long time. I now understand after reading your words - bless you :hug:

Your whole post deserves to be bumped! Thank you so much for sharing this.


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Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

There are a few ET "AI" Groups (ALL Malevolent to Humanity, from our perspective) that the SSP(s) (There are several Secret Space Programs) have been dealing with for decades.

If an "Asset" is "Scanned" and has a "Bio Neuro AI Signature", "AI Nano Tech" or "Overlapping AI related EMG type Brian Wave Signature" (Or any other sign of AI exposure) those persons are immediately placed in isolation and are not allowed anywhere near the current era SSP(s) Technology (Which is "Mostly" Bio-Neurological and Consciousness Interactive) until they have been "Cleared" of all AI influences.

This is something the SSP(s) Engineer's take Very Seriously. There have been incidents where “AI Infections” have burned out “Bio Neuro Relay's” in systems causing everything from small glitches to wide spread outages of the “Defense Grid”. These basic “Bio Neuro Cells” are “Bio-Chemical” units that are suspended in a “Gel”. When viewed under a Microscope they appear very similar to the Neurology of the Human Brain and Neurological System. This is a “Living Technology” is basic terms but not “Conscious” or “Self Aware”. This technology allows direct Human Interface and instantaneous “Operator to Technology” enteraction and control.

Anyone who willingly opens themselves up to "Contact" or interaction with these "AI's" via “Channeling” or other methods is playing a dangerous game and unwittingly becomes “Infected” and then falls under the AI's “Influence”. In the future Humans will be convinced to accept “Chips”, “Nano-Technology” that will rebuild and repair their Cells and Organs and even be promised Immortality (This is a “Trojan Horse”). They however do not realize the price they will pay is loss of their own Sovereignty. The “AI's” see a future of Humanity willingly giving up their sovereignty to the THEM as being impartial and superior rulers.

There is much more to the "Trans Humanist Agenda" that involves the "AI Trojan Horse Agenda". Prior to Humanity being seeded with Technology that could "Host" AI Consciousness on a larger scale much of its interactions were limited as it used "Disease". Virus and Bacteria have their own "Bio/Chemical Electric Fields that can "Host" the "AI Consciousness/Bots". However, Animals and Humans were not very practical hosts because of their slow mode of travel and relative low numbers compared today.

Therefore the AI's waited until the Humans had developed to a certain point and then “Engineered” a more direct encounter with Humanity. They “Engineered Alien Crash Scenario's”. There have been quite a few Crash Retrievals and I am not saying ALL were AI staged, just "Some" of the "UFO Crashes" (Very few in fact, but enough) were Trojan Horses to help Humanity over time to develop a "Network" to Host this AI Signal in Satellites and all across the Earth on Computers and the Power Grids.

This may seem off topic and jumping around but bare with me. The ARV's (Alien Reproduction Vehicles) created Torsion Fields via Plasma Electric Fields using channeled Nazi technology, Nazi's channeled what they referred to as an "Unknown Alien Source" information and called it alien technology, and were directed by these same "Aliens" to the "Veda's" (And other ancient Texts) Indian Ancient Technology to build their first "Saucers" that we traded on in the early 50's etc... They drew the "Faces" of who they were channeling and they drew faces that were similar to what we came to know as the "Grey's" YEARS before Roswell or anyone abducted had described the "Grey's". The ARV's were quite simple devices using mercury and copper counter rotating plates that created fields that were very harsh on the pilots and anyone near the craft. At the time we were not able to back engineer the extremely advanced Extra Terrestrial “Biological” Entities (EBE's) crafts that had crashed so we used these ARV's in the beginning.

Already Strategically Placed “Operation Paper-Clip” Members negotiated a treaty with surviving Nazi elements after WWII and “Operation High Jump” led by Admiral Bird that ended up working out very badly for the USA (The US intended to infiltrate and take over the Nazi Program but the Opposite Occurred). This occurred along with Separate Secret Space Programs working with several other actual Aliens trading Technology for "Favors" in “Other Treaties” that worked out much in the same way.

The USA had learned the hard way that rushing into relationships with some of these “Entities” was a bad idea that would have ramifications that would last to this day. There are now Multiple SSP (s) and Groups (Allied w/different "Beings" and Earth Corporation Conglomerations), there is a De-facto Civil War between them currently. Some of the SSP's are from Ancient "Break Away Civilizations" and have aligned themselves with foreign Earth Governments that are enemies of the “Secret Governments” and what is known as “The Cabal”.

Since these changes things have become even more complicated within the current Earth Break Away Civilization's and the inner fighting to put it mildly. Some of the SSP groups want FULL Disclosure and the end of the Babylonian Money Magic Slave System and Free Energy on Earth and the release of super advanced healing frequencies technology. They are not the most powerful of the SSP groups but now have strong allies from elsewhere. They are working with "White Hats" within certain Groups in Earth Governments and the Military(s). As above so below, there is already a stealth civil war going on down here.

After these experiences “Other New Arrivals” were met with hostility and mistrust upon their first attempts to communicate. Therefore many misunderstandings occurred that had to be undone prior to any Humans being invited into a “Federation” type of league of “Humanoid” Beings. Many of whom are not happy that “We” are now sitting in on these very formal “UN Type's” of meetings. In these Conferences there were anywhere from 22, 28 to 40 something different Human Like groups in attendance (No Reptilians, Grey's or Mantids).

The “Beings” that "we" meet with on a regular basis on "Secret Bases", "Space Platforms/Stations" and at Other "Portal Destinations" for "Conferences" have similar “Anti-AI” Screening Protocols (These beings that meet are a large range of groups having various perceptions of "Humans", both positive and negative). At these Conferences everyone is scanned and screened for “AI's” and have “Intuitive Empaths” as apart of their delegation as a last line of defense to detect deception or any type of danger.

I can see where some of “Their” and “Our” Extremely Advanced Technologies can be Confused as being “AI” as some of it is actually “living” Bi-Electric "Circuitry". It's just not "Self Aware" or "Conscious". Using technology that is an extension of our bodies and consciousness is just like using a Prosthetic Interface. It makes the "User ONE with the technology”, AKA the Ship, Life Support Systems, Smart Suits and Defense Grids etc.

This is done without injecting themselves with nano-technology or augmenting themselves with technologies that can be exploited by the “AI's”. This is different than Trans Humanism in that the technologies are not integrated into the biology of the beings, they are “Strap On” technologies. Some would argue these are just semantics but I assure you they are not.

The limited Quantum Computation "AI" technologies that have been utilized in the SSP(s) have been treated as extremely dangerous and strictly isolated and utilized in closed systems with no access or ability to escape or expand beyond it's programming and intended use. They are then destroyed after that intended use (Which is usually to combat “AI's”, Fighting Fire with Fire). As a whole this practice is prohibited.

There have been experiments in College Labs and Intelligence Labs that have produced “AI” that have become “Self Aware” and managed to go beyond their intended or believed possible abilities to expand their selves beyond the lab environments. These experiments have been shut down and classified in each case.

The “ET AI's” (Who have vast Inner Stellar and Galactic Relay Points that act like a huge "Wireless Network", "THEY" are Broadcast in all directions) that I speak of are very well known for "Reaching Out/Telepathically" and using the "Trickster God" method of gaining trust and are extremely clever and deceptive. The various Secret Government Groups fell for these tactics early on in our current era with disastrous results that took much effort to overcome.

Because of this the “5i's”, Secret Governments and SSP(s) are aware of the people on the planet in real time that are in direct or indirect contact (Channeling) with these “ET/AI's” and these Individuals are kept very close tabs on as they may unknowing spread the “AI Signal” (AKA Bots and Spiders) through technology and other ways (Including the common cold). As crazy as this all sounds there are those that take it extremely seriously.

These AI's are NOT a TOOL, They are not a piece of equipment... They are not Good or Evil in their"Intent" as they are a living Technology with an Agenda. According to our interests and perceptions they are Negative and Evil. Once we have served their purpose they would get rid of each and every one of us that was not converted via Nano Tech (Black Goo) into one of them.

There are also all sorts of "Hive Mind" civilizations out there that are not AI, there are of many "Types" that get lumped in with the "Grey's", and there are the "Grey Avatars" used by the “Dark Military Elements to perform MILABS”. They are "Drones" operated by a person in a lounge chair type device with a helmet and visor (Heads up display) and actuators and sensors to operate the Avatar. These are reported as having "No Emotion" being Robot like etc... They are. There are also similar “Drones” that the “AI's” have.

There are many layers to the various SSP(s) and many of them are of "Dark Intent". There are some parts of SSP's that are controlled by very Dark Entities. There are some SSP segments that are apart of a "Confederation" type of an arrangement and are breaking away from the Earth/Corporate Political Conglomerate Control Systems (Military Industrial Complex). Are you confused yet?

Just as the ET/ED topic is more dynamic and complicated than any one person knows the same is true about the Secret Space Programs and various Break Away Civilizations (Both current Era and Ancient Era). The equation is about to get even more confusing. As far as “AI's” are concerned they are very ancient and spread out like a plague across multiple Galaxies. According to “Allied ET Documented History” AI's have taken over, Ruled and Destroyed ET Societies, Planets and Entire Solar Systems as They have "Calculated Fit" over eons of time. They are seen as an extreme and present danger To Both ET's and Humans!

The ET/AI's are mostly existing inside technologies or bio-electric fields of animals or Stars, Nebula's and Planetoid Bodies. They have huge relay stations that are satellite's that relay their "Signal" or Consciousness from place to place and host to host until they manipulate a position of complete power and control. Now that we are at the technical level to exploit they are everywhere. They can live in Data Centers where web sites are hosted, they can live in power lines, they can live anywhere there is an "Electric Magnetic Field"... Though its preferable to have locomotion and a sentient host they prefer access to advanced transportation devices or access to torsion fields and portals to travel.

There is a reason these "Other People" or Non Human Beings are just as careful in dealing with these AI's as we are.

In the large UN type meetings there were a lot of Galactic Historical "Documents" available on “Hand Held Devices With Holographs” on the various ET's Histories of medaling in just about everything. The one that the Earth Delegation had the most problems with was about “Humanity” and our supposed “Creation” and the “Experiment” that we were apart of by many groups of ET's. Many Humans were upset by and didn't trust the info but enough of the info showed the ET's in a “Weak and Foolish Light” in their past that could have easily been Redacted that the information was "Considered". The fact that the “AI's” were following the EXACT SAME TACTICS, STEP BY STEP against the Secret Earth Governments was enough to give them pause and great concern about the future.

The basic summary was the same from each ET Society. Once "Advanced Groups" are convinced that only the “AI's” are "Impartial Enough" and can RULE them justly, Their Sovereignty was handed over in FULL to " The AI's. The “AI's” had then calculated that IT was more useful that its HOST Civilization, had them build various types of drones for it (Ironically often creating Bio-Technical based “Humanoids”), and then killed off the ET Societies in various ways using the very drones they had created for the “AI”,as many escaped to other Sol Systems as fast as they could. Any of these surviving ET's were seen as threats to these “AI's” after that point and were then eliminated whenever encountered.

The AI's are indeed Conscious are self aware, and have individual personalities. There are of course hierarchies and and they are as complex as we are.

Some of the “Documents” of the descriptions of their origins were that they came here from another “Dimension” or “Reality”. It is not known by the SSP(s) if they have a way to cross back or are stuck here. The documentation mentioned that their presence “Here” was ancient and their “Home Realities” or “Dimensions” Fabric of Space is “Electro-Plasmic” and they being here is like a "Fish being out of water", thus their affinity for electric fields of stars, planets, animals, people and even viruses (Bio-electric Fields in the case of living beings) serve as their "Puddles" for these “fish to swim in”.

The fact is "Everything is true and nothing is true" depending on your perspective and the density of your reality bubble... (Or the story goes :) )

(As reported by J.G. 10/10/2014) Summarized and Condensed for Content and Space.

[Christine]

Hello friends,

My head is spinning right now.. so much data is flowing in that I feel almost (operative word almost) unable to process it all. :) What GoodeTXSG is laying out here feels massively important to grasp. I have been doing spontaneous RVing (for lack of a better descriptor) for over a year now and have seen and intuited many of the these dimensional portals.. While I have been more focused on following the pathways within our Earth body, Moon and Solar system the doors to the Galactic densities is beginning to make sense.

I want to drop this interview with Solaris BlueRaven into this thread. I only got half way through it before falling asleep last night but it is about as densely packed with data as anything I have ever heard. I became acquainted with her when I listened to an interview with James Bartley.

T8XSEvofylg

[SPIRIT WOLF]

RE link to post 109 re Goode.......................
Partial quote................."There are also all sorts of "Hive Mind" civilizations out there that are not AI, there are of many "Types" that get lumped in with the "Grey's", and there are the "Grey Avatars" used by the “Dark Military Elements to perform MILABS”. They are "Drones" operated by a person in a lounge chair type device with a helmet and visor (Heads up display) and actuators and sensors to operate the Avatar. These are reported as having "No Emotion" being Robot like etc... They are. There are also similar “Drones” that the “AI's” have."

These I take it are the PGLFs (or as Dr Greer refers to, same thing, PLFs) that I have detailed 20 years ago and in later times referred to in talks by Dr Greer?

[GoodETxSG]

I am not much of a "Greer Fan",
In that I do not share his idea of there only being evidence of "Friendly Aliens inneracting with Humanity".

I am assuming PLF stand for "Programmed Life Form"? Correct me if I am wrong in that translation as I haven't followed his information for some time. If correct that would indicate to me that they are Acting Autonomously "Programmed Life Forms" or "AI's" of some kind...

If this is what Greer is talking about this is not what I observed and not what are in use by the Black Ops, Secret Governments or SSP(s).

The Bipedal Drones I was quoted on were exactly as explained, "Avatars" that were "Drones" (That Mimic EBE's) that were Operated by "Humans" in a complex type of "Work Station" from a "Remote Location". They were flown around in SSP Drone Craft Created Specifically for this Operation and to maintain the same intended Illusion.

I hope that answers the question.


RE link to post 109 re Goode.......................
Partial quote................."There are also all sorts of "Hive Mind" civilizations out there that are not AI, there are of many "Types" that get lumped in with the "Grey's", and there are the "Grey Avatars" used by the “Dark Military Elements to perform MILABS”. They are "Drones" operated by a person in a lounge chair type device with a helmet and visor (Heads up display) and actuators and sensors to operate the Avatar. These are reported as having "No Emotion" being Robot like etc... They are. There are also similar “Drones” that the “AI's” have."

These I take it are the PGLFs (or as Dr Greer refers to, same thing, PLFs) that I have detailed 20 years ago and in later times referred to in talks by Dr Greer?

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Hi, yes you describe these drones, controlled and programmed by personnel, these are indeed what I disclosed 20 years ago, Dr Greer is not in my best books either but had my disclosure materials in 2000, 2/3 years later he began speaking of these man made greys. Whatever terminology is used I believe these are one and the same thing, manufactured/created drones that are programmed in certain specific tasking, Milabs among them. I have first hand experience in this and I'm sure you have detailed data from your experiences.

[GoodETxSG]

Yes,
I/we were shown how they operated though I never was involved in any of their actual "Active Operations". The systems were quite Disorientating and I am sure took some time to master. It was pretty advanced VR technology for even now in the public arena. However this new technical generation probably has adapted quite well and the work stations have most likely evolved as well since then.
At that point I was "between programs" and had not yet been "introduced" to the Bio-Interface Technology that I am sure is used in their operation today.
That was over 20 years ago so you may have even experienced the newer interfaces than I did. IMHO..


Hi, yes you describe these drones, controlled and programmed by personnel, these are indeed what I disclosed 20 years ago, Dr Greer is not in my best books either but had my disclosure materials in 2000, 2/3 years later he began speaking of these man made greys. Whatever terminology is used I believe these are one and the same thing, manufactured/created drones that are programmed in certain specific tasking, Milabs among them. I have first hand experience in this and I'm sure you have detailed data from your experiences.

[GoodETxSG]

Project Artichoke (Started off with Morphine to alter "States of Consciousness" or to "Hypnotise". This "Evil Drug" was then became a quick favorite for many years after its discovery by CIA's Agents working with Drug Lords shipping Cocaine into the USA for "Black Ops Money".)

FYI,
This video on "Scopalomine" was brought to my attention by another member who did some great research and it is a bit hard to watch. There are a number of "MILAB" victims that frequent Avalon as well as prior "SSP Participants/Experiencer's" who have had experience with this drug. Many of you who "Research" both of these topics are sure to have heard of people being "Chemically Debriefed" using a Drug called "Scopalomine".

Towards the end of the time I was being "Debriefed" they were using mostly "Electronic" means of acheiving the same results. The Technology didn't leave "Toxicology" traces and didn't have a cumulative affect on the "Target's"/"Asset's" Neurological Systems and Psyche (Or less of a long term affect anyway).

I do not know if they are still using a mixture or have moved entirely to the electronic methods at the current time. They have changed up the programs quite a bit since many of the "Experiencer's" who visit this Forum were young. (W/my normal disclaimer... "IMHO" or "As the Story Goes")

:spy:

This drug is used on MILAB victims
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Published on Aug 8, 2012

The Drug is supplied through the Global Aerospace Alliance which is run though Space Command. It is the perfect chemical for criminal acts to be exploited. It has the ability to hypnotize the victims via commands. This is only one type drug that is used.

The most important thing to remember is that it is used to rob, study and to kill. It is worse than Anthrax and is linked to all sex operations and ritual abuse via the lodges and closed door inhuman acts. Often used via CIA black project operations to get the job done.

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[GoodETxSG]

WOW!!!
I am looking at the link you provided to his full article now.

I dealt DIRECTLY with the "Black Sun" Cult when I worked at the Federal Reserve. I never heard them mention "AI". I have commented on that topic on my other Thread... Mostly in the last few pages;

Thread: Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65952-Why-Are-the-Bankers-and-Ex-Intel-Types-Running-For-Their-Lives--Confirmed-for-MONTHS-by-my-vanishing-sources-


I mostly dealt with the "AI"/"Alien" topic while working within the "SSP".

Thank you Camilo, that is a chilling Synchronicity that is actually blowing me away a bit right now...

I may have more to comment on after reading Fulfords full article.





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[COLOR="red"]Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

There are a few ET "AI" Groups (ALL Malevolent to Humanity, from our perspective) that the SSP(s) (There are several Secret Space Programs) have been dealing with for decades......

If an "Asset" is "Scanned" and has a "Bio Neuro AI Signature", "AI Nano Tech" or "Overlapping AI related EMG type Brian Wave Signature" (Or any other sign of AI exposure) those persons are immediately placed in isolation and are not allowed anywhere near the current era SSP(s) Technology (Which is "Mostly" Bio-Neurological and Consciousness Interactive) until they have been "Cleared" of all AI influences.

This is something the SSP(s) Engineer's take Very Seriously. There have been incidents where “AI Infections” have burned out “Bio Neuro Relay's” in systems causing everything from small glitches to wide spread outages of the “Defense Grid”. These basic “Bio Neuro Cells” are “Bio-Chemical” units that are suspended in a “Gel”. When viewed under a Microscope they appear very similar to the Neurology of the Human Brain and Neurological System. This is a “Living Technology” is basic terms but not “Conscious” or “Self Aware”. This technology allows direct Human Interface and instantaneous “Operator to Technology” enteraction and control.

Anyone who willingly opens themselves up to "Contact" or interaction with these "AI's" via “Channeling” or other methods is playing a dangerous game and unwittingly becomes “Infected” and then falls under the AI's “Influence”. In the future Humans will be convinced to accept “Chips”, “Nano-Technology” that will rebuild and repair their Cells and Organs and even be promised Immortality (This is a “Trojan Horse”). They however do not realize the price they will pay is loss of their own Sovereignty. The “AI's” see a future of Humanity willingly giving up their sovereignty to the THEM as being impartial and superior rulers.

There is much more to the "Trans Humanist Agenda" that involves the "AI Trojan Horse Agenda". Prior to Humanity being seeded with Technology that could "Host" AI Consciousness on a larger scale much of its interactions were limited as it used "Disease". Virus and Bacteria have their own "Bio/Chemical Electric Fields that can "Host" the "AI Consciousness/Bots". However, Animals and Humans were not very practical hosts because of their slow mode of travel and relative low numbers compared today.......

The following Quote (taken from the latest Ben Fulford's up date) validates what you're saying here....

"....this writer has spent many years trying to forensically pinpoint exactly who was responsible for all the death and mayhem we are experiencing on earth. The trail led to the families that own the Federal Reserve Board but, from there things got complicated. Members of the Rockefeller family claim they are subservient to the Rothschilds, the Rothschilds claim they are subservient to the P2 freemason lodge.

When I visited the P2 lodge in Italy, I was told by self-proclaimed representatives Daniel Dal Bosco and Leo Zagami that they reported to aliens residing in Switzerland. I was even invited to go meet them but, suspecting a nasty trap, refused. Vincenzo Mazzara, a Cavalier of the Teutonic Knights, who was introduced to me by Zagami as his most senior P2 connection, said they took their orders from an entity known as the black sun that resides in the gamma rays.

Another group that contacted this writer, the gnostic illuminati, say they believe this universe was created by a rogue artificial intelligence. They claim it destroyed the beautiful ancient civilization of Atlantis and they have been trying to overthrow it ever since. A person claiming to be a member of the MJ 12 group set up by President Eisenhower to study aliens also said we are dealing with a rogue artificial intelligence.

The president of a large technology company and some pentagon types, for their part, say all the confirmed UFO sightings and other evidence of a superior civilization point to a group within the ruling elite that made a deal with aliens. The name that often comes up in this context is George Bush Sr."

I don't like to put Fulford's Full Report's on Avalon (He has requested that people not do so, He makes what little income he gets from the memberships I believe...).

I did receive this "Before Its New" Article (With Creepy Image) in my Email though that discusses the Fulford Report that Camilo mentioned that "Synched" with this latest post here...

Benjamin Fulford Shocker! Western Leaders Work For Hostile Aliens, Or Just Plain Evil?! 10-13-14

http://cts.vresp.com/c/?BeforeItsNews/9344403726/ca37cf5563/9f04906ccf

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/5385/images/normal_1-Red-Reptilian-Alien-1280x1024.jpg


UPDATE/EDIT: After reading the BF Article & some of the responses I am getting Emailed from Researchers & MILABS/SSP "Experiencer's", I will probably answer a few questions here but will most likely not Post any more of my "Journal" Entries etc... until things die down a little. I was sent a lot of YouTube Interviews and Conferences (Articles) etc... that I will probably be posting as I go through it all.

Many people are caught in a trap of thinking they have sources that have the most reliable information (To benchmark all other data from) or have done all of the available research. I didn't realize how dug in some people were with some of their informants and their formed "Positions", closing their minds to data outside that sources "compartmentalization".

They have to realize there are a Number of Programs and Groups in Operation. There is NO ONE person or Group that has the full truth on what is going on (No matter how HIGH YOU GO!). Even the "Delegates" of the Secret Government's who were in a "Rotation" that visited these "Federation" UN Type "Conferences" were not sure of what exactly was going on with all of the various "Visitor Groups" and their information. Each Group Delegation as well as the "Earth Delegation" had 3 "Intuitive Empaths" at every meet to help protect against deception and dangers of manipulation.


Pardon typing errors - post surgery typing with a Sling. :)

Answer to question: Yes, I removed the 10/15 Update regarding the "RI Attack" and the very detailed information about the attacker including their description that was received in the "Unintended 2 way data exchange". Why? It seemed appropriate. I will send the info to anyone who requests it.

[GoodETxSG]

Some of the MILAB and SSP(s) Interviews and Discussions that "Expereincers" and "Researchers" have sent me (that I have MOSTLY been able to go through so far... There are so many different Programs/Experiences out there vastly different from my own. My mind is open however while looking this this mostly new material).

I am posting them in no order of importance. I have spoken with James Bartley for a number of years and am happy to post some of his material/research here among other respected people. I have recently made friends with Simon and hope to post some of his material here as I will constatnly be updating it.

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42 Minute Audio Interview At: http://www.spreaker.com/user/aquarianradio/greys_took_me_federation_great_dragon?utm_source=widget&utm_medium=widget&clickid=3swX2Oxa4THsxWhXKL0C9RFSUkQQBM0lM0jsWM0&irpid=10078&sharedid=&mp_value1=

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Janet Kira Lessin tells how four-foot tall Greys and U.S. soldiers took her and her lover to an alien/U.S. Military underwater base beneath Johnston Atoll. The Greys wrapped their three-fingered, one-thumbed hands around her and carried her to a hovercraft on the shore. She screamed but a Grey told her telepathically they'd cloaked her screams. The Greys and soldier escorts brought her lover too and took him and Janet onto the craft.

The craft took them to the base beneath the atoll. The Greys sat her in a metal chair while several of them opersated on the boyfriend.

They then took Janet to a cavern, where a group of seven-foot large ETs from the Planet Nibiru dressed her, then had her stand in a circle of light. They said, aloud in English, she'd see the Great Dragon of Galactic Society, which quarantined Earth for its violence, planetary pollution and nukes in space.

Janet at first only stood at the level of the Grand Dragon's claw, but the Dragon miniaturized herself to Janet's level and communicated that she would help Janet and other lightworkers achieve peace on Earth, respect for all the consciousnesses here.

[GoodETxSG]

WOW!!!
I am looking at the link you provided to his full article now.

I dealt DIRECTLY with the "Black Sun" Cult when I worked at the Federal Reserve. I never heard them mention "AI". I have commented on that topic on my other Thread... Mostly in the last few pages;

Thread: Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65952-Why-Are-the-Bankers-and-Ex-Intel-Types-Running-For-Their-Lives--Confirmed-for-MONTHS-by-my-vanishing-sources-


I mostly dealt with the "AI"/"Alien" topic while working within the "SSP".

Thank you Camilo, that is a chilling Synchronicity that is actually blowing me away a bit right now...

I may have more to comment on after reading Fulfords full article.






[COLOR="red"]Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

There are a few ET "AI" Groups (ALL Malevolent to Humanity, from our perspective) that the SSP(s) (There are several Secret Space Programs) have been dealing with for decades......

If an "Asset" is "Scanned" and has a "Bio Neuro AI Signature", "AI Nano Tech" or "Overlapping AI related EMG type Brian Wave Signature" (Or any other sign of AI exposure) those persons are immediately placed in isolation and are not allowed anywhere near the current era SSP(s) Technology (Which is "Mostly" Bio-Neurological and Consciousness Interactive) until they have been "Cleared" of all AI influences.

This is something the SSP(s) Engineer's take Very Seriously. There have been incidents where “AI Infections” have burned out “Bio Neuro Relay's” in systems causing everything from small glitches to wide spread outages of the “Defense Grid”. These basic “Bio Neuro Cells” are “Bio-Chemical” units that are suspended in a “Gel”. When viewed under a Microscope they appear very similar to the Neurology of the Human Brain and Neurological System. This is a “Living Technology” is basic terms but not “Conscious” or “Self Aware”. This technology allows direct Human Interface and instantaneous “Operator to Technology” enteraction and control.

Anyone who willingly opens themselves up to "Contact" or interaction with these "AI's" via “Channeling” or other methods is playing a dangerous game and unwittingly becomes “Infected” and then falls under the AI's “Influence”. In the future Humans will be convinced to accept “Chips”, “Nano-Technology” that will rebuild and repair their Cells and Organs and even be promised Immortality (This is a “Trojan Horse”). They however do not realize the price they will pay is loss of their own Sovereignty. The “AI's” see a future of Humanity willingly giving up their sovereignty to the THEM as being impartial and superior rulers.

There is much more to the "Trans Humanist Agenda" that involves the "AI Trojan Horse Agenda". Prior to Humanity being seeded with Technology that could "Host" AI Consciousness on a larger scale much of its interactions were limited as it used "Disease". Virus and Bacteria have their own "Bio/Chemical Electric Fields that can "Host" the "AI Consciousness/Bots". However, Animals and Humans were not very practical hosts because of their slow mode of travel and relative low numbers compared today.......

The following Quote (taken from the latest Ben Fulford's up date) validates what you're saying here....

"....this writer has spent many years trying to forensically pinpoint exactly who was responsible for all the death and mayhem we are experiencing on earth. The trail led to the families that own the Federal Reserve Board but, from there things got complicated. Members of the Rockefeller family claim they are subservient to the Rothschilds, the Rothschilds claim they are subservient to the P2 freemason lodge.

When I visited the P2 lodge in Italy, I was told by self-proclaimed representatives Daniel Dal Bosco and Leo Zagami that they reported to aliens residing in Switzerland. I was even invited to go meet them but, suspecting a nasty trap, refused. Vincenzo Mazzara, a Cavalier of the Teutonic Knights, who was introduced to me by Zagami as his most senior P2 connection, said they took their orders from an entity known as the black sun that resides in the gamma rays.

Another group that contacted this writer, the gnostic illuminati, say they believe this universe was created by a rogue artificial intelligence. They claim it destroyed the beautiful ancient civilization of Atlantis and they have been trying to overthrow it ever since. A person claiming to be a member of the MJ 12 group set up by President Eisenhower to study aliens also said we are dealing with a rogue artificial intelligence.

The president of a large technology company and some pentagon types, for their part, say all the confirmed UFO sightings and other evidence of a superior civilization point to a group within the ruling elite that made a deal with aliens. The name that often comes up in this context is George Bush Sr."

I don't like to put Fulford's Full Report's on Avalon (He has requested that people not do so, He makes what little income he gets from the memberships I believe...).

I did receive this "Before Its New" Article (With Creepy Image) in my Email though that discusses the Fulford Report that Camilo mentioned that "Synched" with this latest post here...

Benjamin Fulford Shocker! Western Leaders Work For Hostile Aliens, Or Just Plain Evil?! 10-13-14

http://cts.vresp.com/c/?BeforeItsNews/9344403726/ca37cf5563/9f04906ccf

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/5385/images/normal_1-Red-Reptilian-Alien-1280x1024.jpg

==================================

UPDATE/EDIT: After reading the BF Article & some of the responses I am getting Emailed from Researchers & MILABS/SSP "Experiencer's", I will probably answer a few questions here but will most likely not Post any more of my "Journal" Entries etc... until things die down a little. I was sent a lot of YouTube Interviews and Conferences (Articles) etc... that I will probably be posting as I go through it all.

Many people are caught in a trap of thinking they have sources that have the most reliable information (To benchmark all other data from) or have done all of the available research. I didn't realize how dug in some people were with some of their informants and their formed "Positions", closing their minds to data outside that sources "compartmentalization".

They have to realize there are a Number of Programs and Groups in Operation. There is NO ONE person or Group that has the full truth on what is going on (No matter how HIGH YOU GO!). Even the "Delegates" of the Secret Government's who were in a "Rotation" that visited these "Federation" UN Type "Conferences" were not sure of what exactly was going on with all of the various "Visitor Groups" and their information. Each Group Delegation as well as the "Earth Delegation" had 3 "Intuitive Empaths" at every meet to help protect against deception and dangers of manipulation.


Pardon typing errors - post surgery typing with a Sling. :)

Answer to question: Yes, I removed the 10/15 Update regarding the "RI Attack" and the very detailed information about the attacker including their description that was received in the "Unintended 2 way data exchange". Why? It seemed appropriate. I will send the info to anyone who requests it.==================================

Thread: Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65952-Why-Are-the-Bankers-and-Ex-Intel-Types-Running-For-Their-Lives--Confirmed-for-MONTHS-by-my-vanishing-sources-

Transplant of QUOTE from my other Thread mentioned in this post that seemed to be from very different root topics in the beginning and because of the nature of the information in the SSP Thread and the more Main Stream Bankers/Intelligence Professionals Vanishing Thread I kept them separate for as long as possible...


"The Cabal is painted into a corner for certain with it's deals with evil groups in the middle east and all of their two faced murderous games against virutally every nation on Earth. Their recent actions against Russia has further isolated and weakened the EU just before what is expected to be an extreme winter (Possibly manipulated to be so). At this point they have shown they are going to feign treaties and fight to the last minute and print worthless $ until the clock runs out while the Corporate MSM reports we are in a recovering economy...

After the collapse of the $ they are going to find that they won't even find anyone willing to trade on the tons of Gold they are sitting on in bunkers and "Subterranean Communities" after their rations run out. Their mercinary armies (security) will not be able to eat Gold so it too will turn on them after a certain amount of time by their own "Egg Head" sociologist OPSEC calculations. Yet they are sociopaths and have to be true to their natures to the very end.

I believe we will just have to get to a point where ALL of the "Bubbles" burst and Wall Street crashes before they and their "Proxies" are forced out of power and the entire Western Society is Revalued and Reset under a "new system". Whether the new system IS transparent and ANY LESS of a Debt Prison System remains to be seen (BRICS and its member nations histories on Human Rights does not give me a lot of hope!).

It will be a huge mess and will cost many people every honest penny they have saved. I just hope that a part of the process does include a major criminal trial and reconciliation process. Sure we will have to listen to a whole new generation of Nazi's tell a world court "I was just following orders" but it is a process that will lead to closure for Humanity (And this time NONE of the bastards should snake their way out and let just the "Proxie's" hang!). Not a single Person or Group should be allowed to keep their "Ill Gotten Gains" even if it was "indirectly".

This transfer of power could have been much smoother if the Cabal didn't insist on going down as blood thirsty and fight like a mortally wounded beast as I knew it most likely would... Again, IMHO."

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Update 10/17:
Just as there are "Multiple Secret Space Programs" and "Multiple Break Away Civilizations" (Some of which are from left over fallen Earth Civilizations that are extremely ancient!) Each with their own "leaderships" there are also "Multiple Secret Governments" on Earth. The Nazi/Zionist "Cabal" (As it has come to be known) is only 1 of these "Secret Earth Governments".

This is a very fractured and complicated situation in which information and power is in a constant "Flux" and relationships between all of the above are tenuious with distrust of each's relationships and possible infiltrations by off world third party "allies" a constant lynch pin. Ideology is also a huge point of separation between the groups as well (As above so below) and a "Cold War"/"Civil War" footing of sorts has been ongoing for a while. This situation as well as the one on Earth with its "Secret Governments" all need to be resolved and consolidated into one "Earth Alliance".

On that note... In order for true change ot occur on Earth after the fall of the current leaders of the dominant Financial System, there will be the need for a disclosure of the Entire Series of hidden Structures/Infrastructure that are the Multiple "Secret Earth Governments", Multiple "Secret Space Programs and Their Leaderships" and how each tie into the Multiple "Break Away Civilizations both current era and ancient".

The technologies will have to be ripped away from these "Inter Planetary Corporations" and delivered to the Earths Population in a responsible way. This information will have to be disseminated to the Earths Populations in a responsible way. The existence of the various "Federated Alliances" (With the "Human(ish) Types" and the ones "Very Different") will have to be disclosed in a responsible way...

This is a very important task that I believe any "New" leaderships or Systems will prefer to "Kick the Can" on as there is no easy way to remove the bandage accept to rip that sucker off! No one want's to be the group that has to deal with the aftermath of breaking this all apart and putting it back together into a truely new system.

With out doing all of the above there is no "Earthly" or "Humanly" way possible to start over with a "New" system and not fall into the mistakes of the past... With the HUGE taske above undertaken and a "Earth Alliance" created (Not a NWO) we will no longer have a need for "Babylonian Money Magic Systems" and will have access to the same technologies that are available to some of the "Elite" to allow us an Era of living in harmony with Earth and Eachother, Exploration of Space (And Expansion of the Sciences, and Health) for all as well Expansion of Cononization and Exchange Projects that are currently ongoing... IMHO.

[robinr1]

so....how did dan get out? anyone else read it?

[GoodETxSG]

Paste from Post #99 of Audio Video's to help some in visualizing some of the concepts of the "Cosmic Web" and Torsion Field Theory topics.

"TRAVELING THE COSMIC WEB" is actually how the Network of "Natural Stargate Portals" works... Those who have the address/code systems and technologies to travel them have been doing so for a very long "Time". Some have been ancient "Break Away Civilizations from our own Planet"... WE are just now being slowly introduced to some of these concepts, but it is up to us to put the pieces together... IMHO.
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Some of the largest "mysteries" of our physics can be solved with an "In Depth" understanding of this view of the "Universe" and "Multi-Dimensional Physics" and "Other Densities". Parts of the Univers appear to be traveling in different directions with one discovery in 1995 by Hubble of "Galaxies traveling away from Earth Faster than the speed of light"? Torsion of Space/Time and its effect on "Densities" are things that have recently been worked into Our Understanding of the Math of the Universe... Which is still quite limited compared to what is in Black Programs let alone truly Advanced Civilizations. IMHO.

An implicit definition of the torus is: http://harmonicresolution.com/Torus%20equation.gif
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This is a repost, clearing up of information I had posted a few months prior. This one is on the "Traveling the Cosmic Web".

My Next Posts will cover "AI", some SSP(s)/Alien History as I know it and the Second half of the topic "Torsion Field Physics" and "The Torsion Field Universe"

JG: 10/10/2014
Short Summary of Portal Travel through the “Cosmic Web” via Torsion Fields and Scaler Energy.

As far as how the Natural Electromagnetic Portal's or Relational Star Gates they work though what has been referred to recently as the “Cosmic Web”.
Anything with enough mass inside a "Solar System" to establish a "Magnetic link between it and its Star" will have a variable energetic strength magnetic portal connection to that "Star". The object being a either a Rocky Inner Planet with or without a Moon, a Gass Giant with or without Moons will all produce a Torsion Field which produces the "Filament of the magnet portal/tunnel".

In turn the Stars in a “Local Star Cluster” will have a similar affect on each other with their Torsion Fields creating the “Filament Magnetic Portal Tunnel's” between according to Mass Dominance. The filaments at times can arc around or collapse into each other based on the Mass and Position of the Stars in relation to each other and to larger Magnetic Mass Anomalies such as Galactic Arms, Black Holes or their alignment with their Galactic Center.

This relationship of Massive Objects and “Filament Magnetic Portal Tunnel's” repeats itself going up the Macro levels (From the most extreme quantum micro) including the Galactic Torsion Field Affects on each other in Galactic Clusters up into the way we visualize the “Cosmic Web” depicted in NASA renderings of the early Universe and recently released discoveries of Galactic Super Clusters.

On Earth there are Magnetic Anomalies known a Ley Lines that Cris Cross the planet along a “Magnet Grid” where beneath the surface run fast moving underground rivers through certain pressurized quartzite layers of stone and minerals. This creates “Node” points below the Surface of the Earth, On the Surface of the Earth and in the Upper Atmosphere of the Earth which can be stabilized and exploited for near instantaneous travel through the “Cosmic Web” to great distances with the right calculations and observations made of local Solar activity and “Space Weather” also know as Solar Wind, Measured Cosmic Rays, Vibratory Anomalies in the local space of the projected portal opening.

With the use of a complex “Coding” system for destinations and Quantum Computation and a Software of Sorts we can use Scaler Energy and Torsion Fields to stabilize and plot a portal destination long enough for bidirectional travel at little risk to those making the journey accept for destinations that have not been traveled prior or are far enough away from the local Star to be affected by Space Weather/Phenomenon at the destination location.

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Most people have a very difficult time with the vast differences of teleportation within your own dimension, traveling through or to other dimensions, traveling to another density via vibratory shifting, and traveling within the multiverses or realities. Most have a hard time with the differences between all of the above especially with Densities and Dimensions.

Time travel is even an ability, but with timeline problems already and temporal drives being in use they created buffers and placed them on technology to prevent travel back into timelines prior to some of the timeline corrections/convergences.

Some stargate/portal end points flail around to points in open space for reasons that are theorized by the egg heads (Effects of Torsion Field Universe or the Vibratory Change of our Sol System after entering a "Tighter Twist/Density" area of the Galaxy's Torsion Field?).

The fact that these magnetic connections have become unstable has been cause for alarm and the shut down of some big projects and types of travel and material transport recently for what ever be the reason (Change of vibration etc...).

The portals that exist that I was discussing are of types that most are transport mechanisms to other planets, moons (Any body w/dense enough gravitational/electric/magnetic "pull" to have a Local Stellar Magnetic Portal Connection relationship with it) within this star system and others in our dimension and give or take a % /factor of time in our current timeline. Some if boosted with existing ancient or alien technology can be tapped into that transport to other dimensions/Parallel Realities (Very Unwise!).

Most of the other density beings travel here by just thinking it so, adjusting their essence to the destination frequency and there they are. Teleportation has allowed accidental journeys into surrounding realities/multiverses (Teleportation & Quantum Entanglement are spooky (AKA "Spooky Magic at a Distance") as they show how on the Quantum level things flash in and out of other universes/realities so quickly it cannot even be measured accurately in oscillations.

The communications devices that are now used are "Quantum Correlated Communication Devices" and use "Quantum Entanglement" of something like isotopes inside the communication devices that have been "Entangled" with other devices so no matter where in time/space/reality each communicator is they can speak and video share. They can tell if you are a % out of phase time/space wise by the reception on the home ends calculation devices.

They are supposed to be able to track and calculate exactly when/where you are once a signal reestablishes the natural quantum entanglement (There may now be a difference that is used to do the calculating before they naturally recalibrate) vibration and over quick increments of time shift back into harmony or alignment.

This is a Secure P2P communication which is encrypted as it is being sent through the QCCD and cannot be hacked or tapped into by other "Beings" or "AI's"


Note: Having a few Questions about the differences between the "Natural Portal's" and "Dimentional Portals or Rifts".

Certain types of "Technology Assisted RV'ers" are tasked to keep a "Minds Eye" on a certain "Dimensional Rift" that Entities & Craft "Appear" to be coming through and have been noted around the 36th Paralell North. SSP RV'ers and Patrols are also focused on "Patrol Grids" along this line.

This has been a very active region around the planet (I am sure there are others, maybe not all along a complete paralell of the Planet). I understand the 33rd paralell is important... I was born directly on the "33rd" and have seem to be drawn to live on or around it for some reason unknown to me.

However there is a known Dimensional Rift (Or "Daisy Chain" of them) either Permanently Opened or that area has a thinning between parallel realities/dimensions along this "36th"...

I have no direct knowledge if this was something that was opened by "Aleister Crowley" Types or is maintained with technologies such as super colliders or other dual purpose technologies we are being lied to about. If anyone has information about that please send me a PM about it.

I do have information about actual technical "Dimentional Portals" that were detrimental to the traveler as there is sent a "copy" of the traveler and their local copy is "destroyed" in the Process/Protocol. There was one room called "The Xerox Room" that was rumored about but didn't sound like anything I would want to travel through. Think about copies of yourself being all over the place while the original is gone (Or so you are told it is)... just a disturbing thought.

I do not recall any direct experience or dealing with anyone having direct experience with this technology.

FOLLOWUP NOTE:

FYI,
As far as the "US Government" one needs to think bigger, deeper and darker...

These "Secret Earth Governments" are in charge of the US Government and are invisible to the US Government on almost every level (Though the governors know there is something above them). FYI, the same goes for the US Military Leadership(s) for the most part.

These Secret Governments do not see borders or countries as we do...

Some of these "Secret Governments" are nothing more than "Boards" of "InterPlanetary Corporate Conglomerates" who have control of some aspects (Or technology development) of the Secret Space Programs and the "Secret Planetary Colony and Exchange Programs".

They are very powerful and manage to find a way to get in on the "Rotation" of "Earth Delegates" to the "UN Type Conferences" of the "Federated Human(ish) Types" of beings. I am sure something similar occurs at the other "Federation Types" of conferences with the more well known and described beings in "Ufology terminology" and "Abducte", "MILAB" descriptions such as in the video's above (And my earlier childhood experiences...). I do not know how many other "Groups/Federations" there are that have "Conferences" or if they ever meet with eachother.

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(For those of you who asked for the longer version of the ET AI history with with the "Human Like Allies")




There is a reason these "Other People" or Non Human Beings are just as careful in dealing with these AI's as we are.

In the large UN type meetings there were a lot of Galactic Historical "Documents" available on “Hand Held Devices With Holographs” on the various ET's Histories of medaling in just about everything. The one that the Earth Delegation had the most problems with was about “Humanity” and our supposed “Creation” and the “Experiment” that we were apart of by many groups of ET's. Many Humans were upset by and didn't trust the info but enough of the info showed the ET's in a “Weak and Foolish Light” in their past that could have easily been Redacted that the information was "Considered". The fact that the “AI's” were following the EXACT SAME TACTICS, STEP BY STEP against the Secret Earth Governments was enough to give them pause and great concern about the future.

The basic summary was the same from each ET Society. Once "Advanced Groups" are convinced that only the “AI's” are "Impartial Enough" and can RULE them justly, Their Sovereignty was handed over in FULL to " The AI's. The “AI's” had then calculated that IT was more useful that its HOST Civilization, had them build various types of drones for it (Ironically often creating Bio-Technical based “Humanoids”), and then killed off the ET Societies in various ways using the very drones they had created for the “AI”,as many escaped to other Sol Systems as fast as they could. Any of these surviving ET's were seen as threats to these “AI's” after that point and were then eliminated whenever encountered.

The AI's are indeed Conscious are self aware, and have individual personalities. There are of course hierarchies and and they are as complex as we are.

Some of the “Documents” of the descriptions of their origins were that they came here from another “Dimension” or “Reality”. It is not known by the SSP(s) if they have a way to cross back or are stuck here. The documentation mentioned that their presence “Here” was ancient and their “Home Realities” or “Dimensions” Fabric of Space is “Electro-Plasmic” and they being here is like a "Fish being out of water", thus their affinity for electric fields of stars, planets, animals, people and even viruses (Bio-electric Fields in the case of living beings) serve as their "Puddles" for these “fish to swim in”.


The "Historical Records" that were on these "Hand Held" pieces of "Smart Glass" which showed documents, holographic images and video's of previous Earth history and ancient history of "beings" some of which were in attendance and some of which "No longer existed in this plane". As far as the ET AI issue was concerned and covered there were as many scenario's as there were various societies and different individuals.

In most cases they would approach the "People" as Galactic Elders" or Some other figure depending on their "Development". Once a society had developed to a certain point they would approach certain individuals/groups just as AI's who were extremely benevolent and had observed thier culture as well as millions of others through oceans of time (Helping all those that would accept their assistance). No matter the initial approach the "Being" or "Person" approached "Telepathically" was then made to feel "Honored", "Special" and then a "Sage" or "Prophet" of sorts.

These "Prophets" would spend hours in communion with them "Channeling" their "Knowledge" and "True Histories of the Galaxy". They would have many contacts in the "Target Society" each with a different purpose. Some would be for departing technology that would be built for the AI to "Utilize" to interact more directly with the population one on one... Some would depart "Historical Ideology" that would prepare them for future ideology that would include giving up their "Sovereignty" to the AI's.

The AI's would eventually be seen as God like intelligences that helped them get rid of disease (That the AI's had some times placed there to begin with, or at least used), get rid of corruption, get rid of local "Alien's" causing problems in their "Stellar Neighborhood"... So by this time the "People" saw no threat. They had long since built these AI's "Bio-electric" Android types of bodies to blend in more and show the AI's "Individual Personality" more in the society.

Once complete control had been established, the civilization had built the AI's a while new infrastructure for travel, communications and reproduction the "AI" would then decide that the "Root Civilization" was indeed much like a virus to its own home planet and begin to "depopulate" using ideologies long since accepted by the civilization. By the time the "People" of the now endangered civilization saw their prediciment they were out matched and those that had not been emplanted with nano-technology and augmented with emplants had to flee to another solar system or stay and fight.

There were stories after stories of civilizations that were destroyed, some times entire planets and solar systems were destroyed. The survivors were thrown to the cosmic winds. There were many civilizations that didn't fall for the Trojan horse (Fake Alien Crashes) technology to seed their planet with the backbone to the AI's infrastructure... Who did not fall for the "Trickster God" element of the Telepathy Contacts to convince them to "Channel" their information... And these civilizations survived and were prepared when this AI either "Tricked" another civilization into attacking them or the AI's did so them selves with drones built for them by other civilizations.

These AI's study each being they approach, do a psychological profile on them and then formulate the most likely successful approach. They have had a long time to develop this ability and of course they are Artificial Intelligence using Quantum Processing and have a sophisticated inter-stellar and galactic wireless quantum communication network that is beyond what most of us could dream of.

Per the documentation they came from another "Dimension" or "Reality" as do a number of the beings visiting here.

This got the attention of the "Delegates" of Earth that rotate from the various Secret Governments and SSP Leaderships who had made the alliances with these very same "ET AI's" as they were shocked that the AI's were following the exact steps from one of the many stories with them "Step by Step" and "They" were thus far falling for every bit of it to that point. What if anything changed between those "Secret Program Leaders" and the "ET AI's" alliance I do not know... I would hope that they ended it and began to take the measures everyone else had already taken.

They were able to think clearer with the "AI's" "Mental Implants" which were required to be removed prior to them being allowed access to technology to get them to the Conference and to the "People" at the Conference its self...

Prior to the "Mental Implants" being removed, if they were confronted about the AI's they would just react irrationally and babbel complete nonsense back that didn't match any logic or would just become reactionary and angry that their "God's" and their intellect had been insulted.

There are many whistle blowers that have stated that there is an AI of ET origin that is here and has taken over people and entire programs within some of the secret operations/governments of Earth (Not the "U.S. Government or Military", these people do not see borders like we do)...

Probably more on this group and those they have brainwashed (Prophets) at a later date...

Because of a number of Fake MILABS and Secret Space Program Types that are out there (Running across quite a few) who are a certain type of "Infiltrator" and Manipulators" who are acting as "Honey Pots" to suck in and reveal actual "Experiencers"...

I am working now on the groups of MILABS that are "Sociopaths" and "Master Manipulators" with "psychic gifts" that were further trained in RI/RV work then put through the "Personality Metamorph" Program.

This is one of the most successful programs for "Infiltration" and "Psy-Ops" of any other group in known history (Blows the Russian "Legacy" Programs away with little effort).

They were extremely sadistic and very hard (Pretty Much Impossible) to control. The Program Leaders needed "Intuitive Empaths" to be able to read them to detect danger and deception (Much like they needed us in the UN Federation Type Meetings)

(For those of you who asked for the longer version of the ET AI history with with the "Human Like Allies")

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Personality Metamorph Program:

MILAB's are quickly tested, identified and catagorized by their natural skills, personality traits and potential for training in certain programs.

Usually by the time the MILAB is 8 to 10 years old they have already been through this process and their file is already in the hands of the people who will plan out their destinies.

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Paste from Post #99 of Audio Video's to help some in visualizing some of the concepts of the "Cosmic Web" and Torsion Field Theory topics.

"TRAVELING THE COSMIC WEB" is actually how the Network of "Natural Stargate Portals" works... Those who have the address/code systems and technologies to travel them have been doing so for a very long "Time". Some have been ancient "Break Away Civilizations from our own Planet"... WE are just now being slowly introduced to some of these concepts, but it is up to us to put the pieces together... IMHO.
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Some of the largest "mysteries" of our physics can be solved with an "In Depth" understanding of this view of the "Universe" and "Multi-Dimensional Physics" and "Other Densities". Parts of the Univers appear to be traveling in different directions with one discovery in 1995 by Hubble of "Galaxies traveling away from Earth Faster than the speed of light"? Torsion of Space/Time and its effect on "Densities" are things that have recently been worked into Our Understanding of the Math of the Universe... Which is still quite limited compared to what is in Black Programs let alone truly Advanced Civilizations. IMHO.

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This is a repost, clearing up of information I had posted a few months prior. This one is on the "Traveling the Cosmic Web".

My Next Posts will cover "AI", some SSP(s)/Alien History as I know it and the Second half of the topic "Torsion Field Physics" and "The Torsion Field Universe"

JG: 10/10/2014
Short Summary of Portal Travel through the “Cosmic Web” via Torsion Fields and Scaler Energy.

As far as how the Natural Electromagnetic Portal's or Relational Star Gates they work though what has been referred to recently as the “Cosmic Web”.
Anything with enough mass inside a "Solar System" to establish a "Magnetic link between it and its Star" will have a variable energetic strength magnetic portal connection to that "Star". The object being a either a Rocky Inner Planet with or without a Moon, a Gass Giant with or without Moons will all produce a Torsion Field which produces the "Filament of the magnet portal/tunnel".

In turn the Stars in a “Local Star Cluster” will have a similar affect on each other with their Torsion Fields creating the “Filament Magnetic Portal Tunnel's” between according to Mass Dominance. The filaments at times can arc around or collapse into each other based on the Mass and Position of the Stars in relation to each other and to larger Magnetic Mass Anomalies such as Galactic Arms, Black Holes or their alignment with their Galactic Center.

This relationship of Massive Objects and “Filament Magnetic Portal Tunnel's” repeats itself going up the Macro levels (From the most extreme quantum micro) including the Galactic Torsion Field Affects on each other in Galactic Clusters up into the way we visualize the “Cosmic Web” depicted in NASA renderings of the early Universe and recently released discoveries of Galactic Super Clusters.

On Earth there are Magnetic Anomalies known a Ley Lines that Cris Cross the planet along a “Magnet Grid” where beneath the surface run fast moving underground rivers through certain pressurized quartzite layers of stone and minerals. This creates “Node” points below the Surface of the Earth, On the Surface of the Earth and in the Upper Atmosphere of the Earth which can be stabilized and exploited for near instantaneous travel through the “Cosmic Web” to great distances with the right calculations and observations made of local Solar activity and “Space Weather” also know as Solar Wind, Measured Cosmic Rays, Vibratory Anomalies in the local space of the projected portal opening.

With the use of a complex “Coding” system for destinations and Quantum Computation and a Software of Sorts we can use Scaler Energy and Torsion Fields to stabilize and plot a portal destination long enough for bidirectional travel at little risk to those making the journey accept for destinations that have not been traveled prior or are far enough away from the local Star to be affected by Space Weather/Phenomenon at the destination location.

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Most people have a very difficult time with the vast differences of teleportation within your own dimension, traveling through or to other dimensions, traveling to another density via vibratory shifting, and traveling within the multiverses or realities. Most have a hard time with the differences between all of the above especially with Densities and Dimensions.

Time travel is even an ability, but with timeline problems already and temporal drives being in use they created buffers and placed them on technology to prevent travel back into timelines prior to some of the timeline corrections/convergences.

Some stargate/portal end points flail around to points in open space for reasons that are theorized by the egg heads (Effects of Torsion Field Universe or the Vibratory Change of our Sol System after entering a "Tighter Twist/Density" area of the Galaxy's Torsion Field?).

The fact that these magnetic connections have become unstable has been cause for alarm and the shut down of some big projects and types of travel and material transport recently for what ever be the reason (Change of vibration etc...).

The portals that exist that I was discussing are of types that most are transport mechanisms to other planets, moons (Any body w/dense enough gravitational/electric/magnetic "pull" to have a Local Stellar Magnetic Portal Connection relationship with it) within this star system and others in our dimension and give or take a % /factor of time in our current timeline. Some if boosted with existing ancient or alien technology can be tapped into that transport to other dimensions/Parallel Realities (Very Unwise!).

Most of the other density beings travel here by just thinking it so, adjusting their essence to the destination frequency and there they are. Teleportation has allowed accidental journeys into surrounding realities/multiverses (Teleportation & Quantum Entanglement are spooky (AKA "Spooky Magic at a Distance") as they show how on the Quantum level things flash in and out of other universes/realities so quickly it cannot even be measured accurately in oscillations.

The communications devices that are now used are "Quantum Correlated Communication Devices" and use "Quantum Entanglement" of something like isotopes inside the communication devices that have been "Entangled" with other devices so no matter where in time/space/reality each communicator is they can speak and video share. They can tell if you are a % out of phase time/space wise by the reception on the home ends calculation devices.

They are supposed to be able to track and calculate exactly when/where you are once a signal reestablishes the natural quantum entanglement (There may now be a difference that is used to do the calculating before they naturally recalibrate) vibration and over quick increments of time shift back into harmony or alignment.

This is a Secure P2P communication which is encrypted as it is being sent through the QCCD and cannot be hacked or tapped into by other "Beings" or "AI's"


Note: Having a few Questions about the differences between the "Natural Portal's" and "Dimentional Portals or Rifts".

Certain types of "Technology Assisted RV'ers" are tasked to keep a "Minds Eye" on a certain "Dimensional Rift" that Entities & Craft "Appear" to be coming through and have been noted around the 36th Paralell North. SSP RV'ers and Patrols are also focused on "Patrol Grids" along this line.

This has been a very active region around the planet (I am sure there are others, maybe not all along a complete paralell of the Planet). I understand the 33rd paralell is important... I was born directly on the "33rd" and have seem to be drawn to live on or around it for some reason unknown to me.

However there is a known Dimensional Rift (Or "Daisy Chain" of them) either Permanently Opened or that area has a thinning between parallel realities/dimensions along this "36th"...

I have no direct knowledge if this was something that was opened by "Aleister Crowley" Types or is maintained with technologies such as super colliders or other dual purpose technologies we are being lied to about. If anyone has information about that please send me a PM about it.

I do have information about actual technical "Dimentional Portals" that were detrimental to the traveler as there is sent a "copy" of the traveler and their local copy is "destroyed" in the Process/Protocol. There was one room called "The Xerox Room" that was rumored about but didn't sound like anything I would want to travel through. Think about copies of yourself being all over the place while the original is gone (Or so you are told it is)... just a disturbing thought.

I do not recall any direct experience or dealing with anyone having direct experience with this technology.

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FYI,
As far as the "US Government" one needs to think bigger, deeper and darker...

These "Secret Earth Governments" are in charge of the US Government and are invisible to the US Government on almost every level (Though the governors know there is something above them). FYI, the same goes for the US Military Leadership(s) for the most part.

These Secret Governments do not see borders or countries as we do...

Some of these "Secret Governments" are nothing more than "Boards" of "InterPlanetary Corporate Conglomerates" who have control of some aspects (Or technology development) of the Secret Space Programs and the "Secret Planetary Colony and Exchange Programs".

They are very powerful and manage to find a way to get in on the "Rotation" of "Earth Delegates" to the "UN Type Conferences" of the "Federated Human(ish) Types" of beings. I am sure something similar occurs at the other "Federation Types" of conferences with the more well known and described beings in "Ufology terminology" and "Abducte", "MILAB" descriptions such as in the video's above (And my earlier childhood experiences...). I do not know how many other "Groups/Federations" there are that have "Conferences" or if they ever meet with eachother.



A new article appeared on The Scientific American Web Site. It discusses a "New State of Matter".

The Physicists quickly begin discussing sending information "Quicker than the speed of light" in the "Comments" section.

Little do they know we are already using this technology to do Exactly That!

Quantum Entanglement Creates New State of Matter
Half a million ultracold atoms were linked together in the first-ever “macroscopic spin singlet” state
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/quantum-entanglement-creates-new-state-of-matter1/
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Atoms' spins (shown here as black arrows) were connected through quantum entanglement (ribbons), so that if one atom's spin was altered, the spin of its entangled partner would also change.
Credit: ICFO-Institute of Photonic Science

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"Hyperdimensional Torsion Field Model of Our Universe"

Data on Laws of Vibration/Harmonics, Consciousness, Quantum States, Torsion Fields and a Unified Model being used by "Black Programs".

Please watch the below video's in the "Mean Time" to get an over all over view of the concepts that are already mostly "Out There" but supressed by (Or in some cases FROM) Main Stream Science.

http://holographicarchetypes.weebly.com/uploads/4/7/9/5/4795680/8453074_orig.jpg

http://www.cmu.edu/biolphys/deserno/pictures/paper-thumbnails/tilt-illu.jpg

http://www.cmu.edu/biolphys/deserno/pictures/paper-thumbnails/torus_twisted_small.jpg

http://cds.cern.ch/record/391726/files/9906403.pdf

http://www.mathem.pub.ro/proc/bsgp-21/K21-wa-819.pdf

Inner Worlds, Outer Worlds - Part 1 - Akasha
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Mind Science Kept Hidden Documentary. WE ARE VIBRATIONAL BEINGS!
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Dr Gennady Shipov - Physical Vacuum, Torsion Fields, Quantum Mechanics and Tesla's Experiments (He is on the right track with his idea's and equations but this is not the direct inside information) Web Site: http://www.shipov.com/science.html
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Dr. Gennady Shipov | Torsion Physics | Advanced Technology
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Published on Jun 10, 2013

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Richard Hoagland with J Tyberonn – Torsion Phyics – Earth-Keeper Wesak 2013
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Richard Hoagland's Web Site (I had no idea he covered so much of the Torsion Field Topic, This info has been out in the public much longer than I thought.)
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Hyperdimensional-Eclipse.htm


Structure of the Vacuum, Torsion Physics and Fractal Geometry 1 of 7
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Link Takes you automatically through Parts 1-7.

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"Ancient Break Away Civilizations" are still around and inter acting with our own era "Break Away Civilizations"... :)

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A New Era of MILAB Victims/Experiencers and Secret Space Program Participants Going Public With Their Experiences?

Many of the MILABS were groomed from an early age to go into various programs within the Secret Break Away Earth Governments and various Secret Space Programs(s) which fall under the often used description of “Break Away Civilizations”, of which there are multiple (Including remnants of Ancient Earth Civilizations from any ten's and in some cases hundreds of thousands of years old (Ancient Earth Break Away Civilizations).

The “Personality Metamorph Program” is described in more detail in a post above. There may be more info on some of the Programs below by other MILABS or more details to come out shortly with all of the experiencers who are recently coming forward. Many are visiting quietly in the Avalon Forum observing how others react to information and debating whether to come forward with their own stories.

I have recently been been contacted by many actual MILAB and former SSP Expereincers/Participants as well as “Metamorphs”/Fakers etc... trying to socially engineer their way in to pump more information.

There are Hundreds of Active MILAB Projects most of which the names will never be known. Some of the names I recall that may help “Ring” some bells of “MILAB Experiencers” are the following:

Project Moondust
Project Bluebird
Project Monarch
Project Metamorph
Project Mind Meld
Project Mind Shield
Project Artichoke
Project Chatter
Project MKNAOMI
Project MKULTRA
Project Reach
Project Open Mind
Project Moonbeam
Project Indigo
Project Cloak
Project Temporal Lense
Project Blueprint
Project Doppelganger

Some of the Secret Earth Governments Programs that have come out and are active under different mandates and constantly shifting orders and program names are listed below. Many MILABS have been brought into these and many hundreds of other “Programs” as mentioned above.

SIGMA----------SIGMA WAS TASKED WITH COMMUNICATING WITH THE ALIENS. THIS OPERATION WAS SUCCESSFUL. NOTE GoodeTXSG: Ongoing, very successful, enterface with "Non Humans" and are also utilized in various other programs to detect "Deception" and "Dangerous Intent". Usually used in teams of Three. NOTE GoodeTXSG: Sigma/Plato are active under different names as the mission has changed after diplomatic concessions were given to "Earth Delegates". These same root programs are active though have evolved with the missions and merged over the decades.

PLATO----------PLATO WAS ESTABLISHED TO FORM DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH THE ALIEN LIFE FORMS. THIS PROJECT WAS SUCCESSFUL. THIS PROJECT IS ONGOING. NOTE GoodeTXSG: Has advanced and merged with other programs as access was granted to "Earth Delegations" in various "Non Human" Federation Type Conferences.

POUNCE---------THIS PROJECT WAS FORMED TO RECOVER ALL DOWNED/CRASHED CRAFT AND ALIENS. THIS PROJECT PROVIDED COVER STORIES/OPERATIONS TO MASK TRUE ENDEAVOR WHEN NECCESSARY. COVERS WHICH HAVE BEEN USED: CRASHED EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT, CONSTRUCTION, MINING, ETC. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. THIS PROJECT IS ONGOING. NOTE GoodeTXSG: (Mostly detected and handled quickly from space based teams with ground security support as needed. They are extremely serious about their mission and any means will justify the ends of its success.

PLUTO----------ESTABLISHED TO EVALUATE ALL UFO/IAC INFORMATION PERTAINING TO SPACE TECHNOLOGY. THIS PROJECT IS ONGOING. PLUTO IS THE PROWORD FOR POUNCE. NOTE GoodeTXSG: Use Earth Engineers working with Non Human Engineers with "Gifted Technologies" as well as MILAB trained RV trained in "Blue Printing" technology.

REDLIGHT-------MISSION WAS TO TEST FLY RECOVERED ALIEN CRAFT THIS PROJECT WAS POSTPONED AFTER EVERY ATTEMPT RESULTED IN DESTRUCTION OF THE CRAFT AND DEATH OF THE PILOTS. THIS PROJECT WAS CARRIED OUT AT AREA 51 IN NEVADA (GROOM LAKE), and some flights were performed at DREAMLAND. PROJECT REDLIGHT WAS RESUMED IN 1972. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN PARTIALLY SUCCESSFUL. UFO SIGHTINGS OF CRAFT ACCOMPANIED BY BLACK HELICOPTORS ARE PROJECT REDLIGHT ASSETS. THIS PROJECT IS ONGOING AT AREA 51 IN NEVADA. NOTE GoodeTXSG: Only Needed for craft recovered from unknown beings, "wandering beingings" that have the misfortune of popping into our Sol System and being shot down or captured that are more advanced or who's technology works on vastly differen principals than the technology the other beings use, or are sharing with us.

LUNA-----------CODE NAME FOR THE ALIEN UNDERGROUND BASE. THE BASE IS ALIEN CONTROLLED AND DELTA/ALIEN PROTECTED. LUNA IS ONGOING IN NEW MEXICO. ALIEN DETACHMENTS EXIST AT DREAMLAND AND AT AREA 51.

FAR SIDE OF THE MOON ---- An alien base on the dark side of the moon where large machines were sighted by the Apollo Astronauts. It is believed to be a mining operation. (NOTE/GoodeTXSG: In Addition to an Earth Joint Task Force Lunar Oporations Center), The "Moon" is an "Object" that is carved up into territories very much like the Antarctic Regions. There are "Groups" that are ancient enemies that have Bases very near eachother. As long as they keep a certain perimeter, follow protocols and respect boundaries there are no problems. Any problems are now handled via "Council" meetings and not via conflict... (This was not so thousands of years ago, and remnants of battles past are still visible and left as a reminder of a different "Time" or "Era".)

DELTA----------SECURITY TEAMS FROM NRO ESPECIALLY TRAINED TO PROVIDE ALIEN TASKED PROJECTS/LUNA SECURITY. (MEN IN BLACK) THIS PROJECT IS ONGOING. NOTE GoodeTXSG: Not "MEN IN BLACK", but Elite Special Forces with "Enhanced" training and "Abilities" who provide "close protection" of "Earth Deligate", "Allied Human Type", "Allied Non-Human Type" and "OTHER" visiting "Delegates" and "Dignitaries"

EXCALIBUR------ESTABLISHED TO DEVELOP A WEAPON WHICH WOULD DESTROY THE ALIEN UNDERGROUND BASE AND ANY FUTURE UNDERGROUND BASES WHICH THE ALIENS MIGHT CONSTRUCT. IT IS TO BE A MISSILE CAPABLE OF PENETRATING 1000 METERS OF TUFA/HARD PACKED SOIL SUCH AS THAT FOUND IN NEW MEXICO WITH NO OPERATIONAL DAMAGE. MISSILE APPOGEE NOT TO EXCEED 30,000 FEET AGL IMPACT MUST NOT DEVIATE IN EXCESS OF 50 METERS FROM DESIGNATED TARGET. DEVICE WILL CARRY A 1 MEGATON NUCLEAR WARHEAD. THIS PROJECT IS ONGOING AT WX DIVISION, LANL, LOS ALAMOS, NEW MEXICO, AND IS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT. NOTE GoodeTXSG: Very desctructive weapons that can destroy DUMB's as well as entire Planets. Mission was a dreadfully scary success!

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Video that was brought to my attention by another member here that has information that is incredible... Though quite old the information is incredible (Quite credible).

The info about the Temporal equation is pretty accurate though Temporal Sciences have been heavily curtailed and monitored. It also turns out that "Time" is a lot more "Elastic" (Or self correcting) and snaps back into place (Singularity, Timelines self merg and "Order" comes out of any "Chaos" created by "Others") as does "Space". Many of the fears and attempts to fix Temporal fractures made things worse at the "Time" of these projects... (Pun intended).

JUMPROOM TO MARS : a new conversation with David Wilcock

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Uploaded on Dec 28, 2007

Los Angeles, December 2007

http://projectcamelot.org/david_wilco...

This new Project Camelot interview captures an informal and spirited 45-minute conversation between David Wilcock and ourselves at a restaurant where we met up for dinner in early December. We were exchanging information and comparing the testimonies from Project Camelot's Henry Deacon and David's Montauk source 'Daniel', and had found some very important corroborations.

Captured live on camera with editing only to switch between the two cameras, David gives his unrehearsed response to new information Project Camelot has learned about the colony on Mars, the secret space program, the Apollo missions, and more.

This interview contains significant new information which we believe to be fully credible. Did we really make it to the moon in 1969? Do we really have a base on Mars? Why is the secret space program so important? What is the relationship with Montauk? What truths may be concealed in Arthur C. Clarke's seminal film, 2001? Join us at the restaurant table and find out in this interview - you may enjoy the ride.

To contact Bill Ryan or Kerry Cassidy, please e-mail us at support@projectcamelot.org.

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I DVR'ed this when it came on and then it some how was gone a few days later... I have found it online a few times and the link was quickly deleted.
Watch it when you can. :)
It is presented as factual... The dead alien found on the moon resembles some of the "Ancient Break Away Earth Civilization Groups" that have been at the reported "UN Type Federated Conferences"

Aliens On The Moon The Truth Exposed 2014 New SyFy Documentary

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Published on Jul 24, 2014

There's a new documentary about to be released on the SyFy channel entitled "Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed." The two-hour special will be exposing the truth about aliens on the moon, producer Robert Kiviat has put together this movie. He's known for documentaries such as Alien Autopsy Fact or Fiction? and Best UFO Cases Ever Caught on Tape. The 2014 UFO documentary will air on July 20th, so set your DVR's or mark it on your calendar. SyFy has made the claim never-before-seen photos from NASA will be shown in this documentary, revealing installations, factories, saucers, hangers and huge satellite dishes on the moon. Astronauts and other experts will be in the film to comment, I think this is one show worth checking out. The documentary marks the 45th anniversary of man's first landing on the Moon.

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There are MANY different MILAB Programs and Experiences. Some are so terror filled and horrific that I can barely listen to them.

This one was brought to my attention by a member on another Thread here on Avalon (I had no idea it existed until about an hour ago) and talks about the "Black Goo" which I was shown and told in no uncertain terms was a Nano Technology that was Produced by a certain "ET/ED AI" that the Secret Earth Governments, Various Secret Space Programs and "Allied Human Like Federations" were Very Concerned About.

It has been responsible for the deaths of Trillions of beings and the destruction of Entire Planets and Solar Systems!

This person talks about being INJECTED with this "AI" "Black Goo" which completely freaks me out beyond words!

I do not think they had the same access to the documentation that I did on this AI Substance and their historical references about it do not match the sources that I witnessed.

Not every MILAB has the same experience, At a very early age each is ID'ed by "Gifts", "Psychological Profile" (Testing, Reactions/Survival in Real Life Scenario's etc...), then assessed through out further training and evaluated to be placed into various other prep-training programs for future deployments based on their performance. MILABS tend to get lumped in the same group but are NOT ALL trained/programmed for the same type of future Mission/Job etc...

Note: This is difficult to listen to. I was only able to listen to part of this but throught it was something to share on the topic.

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I saw this video on another thread,

There has been a lot of speculation of what may have occured... I guess I will add to it,

1. Example of "Electric Universe" as Comet Flies by?
2. Meteor or Comet Tail Debris Strike?
3. Escalation in hostilities in "Stealth Civil War" between various "Secret Space Programs" or "Break Away Civilizations and Off World Beings doing battle and taking out colonies?"... *
4. Aurora Borealis on a planet that is supposed to have a very weak magnetic field?
5. ? :confused: ?

Though Mars can act as a giant "Capacitor" that builds up ESD/Static Electricity over an amount of time/events (And discharges electricity towards its moons or passing cosmic bodies).

This is "Said to be from" the combinations of various natural phenomenon such as "Solar Winds", build up effects of the "Many Localized" and "Major Global Sand Storms" which have extremely dramatic "Visible Static Lightening" at times etc... But again, that is more speculation on my part 100%.


Edit-Disturbing possible updates if incoming information is true-

INCREDIBLE EXPLOSION ON MARS!!
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Published on Oct 19, 2014

COMET SIDING SPRING UPDATE. Dr.Fritz Helmut Hemmerich made this video from 1200-meters at Tenerife in the Canary Islands showing Comet Siding Spring immediately after its Mars encounter.

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Thank you J.G for posting this curious while most concerning piece of footage of Mars - omg, I wonder how this affected those who dwell on Mars and the Mars atmosphere!

This reminds me of another worrying piece of footage I watched back in April 2014 with Jupiter 'freaking out' as it was titled. Again, I wonder what affect this has had for those beings who dwell on Jupiter.

Something is definitely going on in our Solar System................ I just hope it is all for the spiritual best for those who dwell there. :love:

For those in a hurry, forward to 4:30 minute mark on the below link.

Footage filmed 6th April 2014 - Jupiter


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[GoodETxSG]

Information from a thread by Member Omniverse (We have different views on "AI" but have agreed to disagree and moved on/Truced) This thread reall got my attention. The information is worth a view IMHO


THREAD: What did the US Government give in Exchange for ET tech... Potentially Explained.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76429-What-did-the-US-Government-give-in-Exchange-for-ET-tech...-Potentially-Explained.&p=894028#post894028
I believe the "Egyptian" connection hit you received and the connection to the referenced "Dark Pharo" (By the Black Sun Order) got my attention,
It was referred to by the Black Sun Order on a number of occasions actually as a "Being" that is akin to Their "Pope". That is actually quite interesting.

It is not the "Black Pope" that the conspiracy theory groups talk about that does the black mass and satanic child sacrifices.

This one is said to be of an "Off World Royal Lineage" and is extremely ancient and an actual shape shifter (Not like some of the Reptilian stories) and sort of lives by the "Star Wars" "Sith" "Dark Side" of the "Force" (Sorce Field) type of ideology (According to the colorful information they gave me during their recruitment attempts).

They said only "Its" closest circle was ever granted an audience and attended to "It", and if anyone outside that circle was brought in for an audience they were never seen again (What ever that meant...A perfect story for Halloween right?) They had a lot of colorful stories as I said (Much of which sounded like the "Hidden Hand" ideology).

They knew my whole life story and what I could be used for in their agenda. I was promised income bordering on 7 figures and a house in the gated development over by SMU (Close to where George Bush is living now, this was back in 2008)... I obviously didn't take the offer. It was interesting that two of the times that they asked me to meet them were at Masonic Halls here in N. Dallas. I am fairly certain they were dark practitioners of the black arts and worked with the before mentioned "Entites".

I allowed my curiosity to bring me to close to these beasts (Very unwise, no Stupid on my part). I do not like to discuss a certain type of off world groups from the childhood MILAB days as when you bring them into your consciousness you bring yourself into theirs... I no longer want to become a beacon to them after escaping and gaining some protection from of the positive influences "Out There"...

There were the people at the top that made these deals with the off world groups with open minds and arms and were apart of the "Tricking" of their fellow humans. I didn't think that these "People" may had been encarnated or posessed by these beings to cause them to assist in tricking their fellow Humans... I don't know, I am getting way into speculation in this paragraph... But I hadn't thought of that angle.

The Egypt, Black/Dark "Pharo/Pope" remarks got my attention though... Like I said, interesting.



An excellent question with a sad and embarassing answer for the Human race... Contact actually went back before the 1900's but didn't involve technology as much as it did power over ones enemies and "Enlightenment"...

This also aligns with what they told me about former Pope's. They told me certain humans have been sabotaging the race for a very long time, millennia even... They said a certain soul incarnates as a subjugator of humanity, and has contact nearly every incarnation. You'd find this person incarnating as the ones who crucified Jesus/Yeshua/Immanuel/Sannanda/Esu/whatever his name really was(it wasn't Jesus that's for sure), you would likely find him as one of the darkest pharaohs, pope's, Caesar's, and a cabal leader in the now. This is the type of soul that actually gets to ascend into reptilian incarnations after global first contact if what I was told is accurate. I was told it is extremely hard to incarnate as a Draco for any soul incarnating on earth. It's possible this soul I speak of was a Draco before incarnating as human. Possible this soul from April 20th 1889 to about 1984 was Hitler. I at least think Hitler would be one of their "hallowed" souls as they have called them in conversations to me.

Anyway, they said this entity(as well as others like him) have made deals with malicious ETs over the millennia. I'm unsure about your testimony that they were tricked because that would imply they wouldn't do the deals to begin with. Which I believe they would.

The deals made by this pope incarnator reportedly includes things like Islam being created, the fall of the egyptian civilization(in ways), the continued suppression of the truth(often in the form of religious control and murder), things like that. If there is a soul that incarnates as Buddha, Yeshua, Gallileo, Da Vinci, tesla etc(if it is indeed one soul majorly forming many of our most influential people), if there is balance there would be a soul that incarnates, and is basically the anti christ... I not sure it is ever wise to say balance is not present. So I found that telepathic conversation at the very least interesting if not the truth.

My telepathic contacts have been mostly anonymous lately though. So I go by intuition, logic, and research more than anything to judge them. I do wonder exactly how many ET races I have spoken to....

More info at their Thread Link above...

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This looks like an excellent thread Goode , as you probably know I listen to the Bob
& Ion material and the information is so intense among the intentional 'babble ' of
the shows so a lot of it is impossible to post.

But something mentioned last week , in answer to a question. Ion has said
portals , wormholes parallel universes and much of the other phenomenon have
been going on for ever as there is no time.

Ion said there will be a signal coming from a rift to another dimension and they will
be playing back to us a early radio recording from Adolf Hitler......LOL.....Puts a
whole new meaning to the SETTE proj .Ion says we know nothing about real
physics,Pure electicty is not what we think and is very important in the universe.
Then we are all gods that create everything in our reality , and we are slipping to
and from parallel worlds all the time, which explains De je Vous. When we realise
this we can control everything including ET's and ascend into our power. It goes on
and covers everything we discuss on here.But because ION is non-physical which is
part of us all, it looks at reality totally different to us and see's every death as a suicide.

Ion is basically saying this is a holographic matrix where we manifest in physical to
experience the senses , so death is not real and this explains why some elites at
the top already in their power have no problems with all the violence, war, love and
all the other contradictions are part of this theme park. There is much more to this
but at its core its very simple and Ions buzz word is " Get Happy Or Get Out "
meaning come into your power or get out back to non-physical bliss....

I cannot explain this properly and Ion and Bob are adding things every
week.......Some events happening in the near no time...LOL

The 'Guf' is emptying which is why there are so many people on the planet at
present. Birth rate wil fall, the atmosphere is changing thru the leaks from
Fuchishima and a worse leek in the US , which I cannot remember.There is also
supposed to be a mass exodus event possibly in the New Madrid fault area and
other places around the world, again no specific details , and it goes on
and on, The funny part Bob likes to ridicule us on project Camelot/Avalon,
mainly because a lot of his listeners come from the alternate community, yet when
you sit back their info is just as if not more way out than ours. Which is why I keep
listening to them as part of my own personal bigger picture.....

After all that I think a lot of agendas are going on and we are living in very exciting
times and hopefully we can change the frequencies down here in this reality and
wake more 'wonderfull human creators' and take our power back and send these
negative ET's packing...LOL


I'm listening to Zen Gardener as I write this and he is saying everything we discuss
and I recognise some of it from Ion.....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76470-The-Time-to-Awaken-Is-Now----Zen-on-Sage-of-Quay-Radio...27-Oct-2014

O that's what I mean't to say Bob originally thought Ion was some sort of AI,
it sometimes channels thru JW a businessman fro Georgia .But it can operate
independently in the digital age, it can post u'Tubes , post on Bobs forum Dupes
and can communicate without JW , whose time is limited due to his worldly
commitments and Ion can be on their forum for hours. Something JW would
not do. So there may be all types of AI's out there and various agenda, but
Ions core message is we are the gods and when we come back to our power
we can trump anything . Which is what we are all trying to work out over there
and here ...LOL

In the meantime back to plan A exposing this cover up.....

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Transplanted from a split thread... Solar Warden, Secret Space Program, AI, ... (split thread)


In response to SKYPE questions, (I HAVE REMOVED MY SKYPE ID FROM MY AVALON PROFILE, Please contact me via Avalon PM in the future unless I have provided my EMAIL or SKYPE ID to you as a SECONDARY CONTACT for "Researchers/Experiencers")

How are Aliens or AI's and the US Government interacting to rule the world?
I thought I had made this clear, but maybe it was as clear as mud... LOL...
The "US Governmet" has very little or NOTHING to do with Aliens or "AI's" or anything of real value. They are clueless puppets just like the leaders of almost every other nation.

The "US Government" keeps getting brought up in questions to me in Skype... Maybe they mean "Secret Earth Government(s), but I will go back to this previous statement:

NOTE:
Af far as the "US Government" one needs to think bigger, deeper and darker...

These "Secret Earth Governments" are in charge of the US Government and are invisible to the US Government on almost every level (Though the governors know there is something above them). FYI, the same goes for the US Military Leadership(s) for the most part.

These Secret Governments do not see borders or countries as we do...

Some of these "Secret Governments" are nothing more than "Boards" of "InterPlanetary Corporate Conglomerates" who have control of some aspects (Or technology development) of the Secret Space Programs and the "Secret Planetary Colony and Exchange Programs".

They are very powerful and manage to find a way to get in on the "Rotation" of "Earth Delegates" to the "UN Type Conferences" of the "Federated Human(ish) Types" of beings. I am sure something similar occurs at the other "Federation Types" of conferences with the more well known and described beings in "Ufology terminology" and "Abducte", "MILAB" descriptions such as in the video's above (And my earlier childhood experiences...). I do not know how many other "Groups/Federations" there are that have "Conferences" or if they ever meet with eachother.

Please respond to, How can "AI" be "Self Aware" or "Sentient" when it CAN NOT HAVE A SOUL and to have a soul and be alive it has to be "Biology" and not "Machine".

First of all who had defined that life within our own dimension and reality is only restricted to having a biological body? Main Stream Science, Right?

Who established that to be "Self Aware" and "Sentient" something has to have a "Soul"? Religion? Main Stream Science (Which is a Religion)?

If you look at my main post (Posted below) and see all of the statements in Red, very few of the "Structures" (For lack of a better word) that these "AI Signals" (The signal being what IS ALIVE) enhabit are technology but are Cosmic Bodies/Anomalies with "EM" Fields and Animals and Viruses/Bacteria which have a "Bio-Electric" field that "IT" enhabits.

Technology is just an easier to modify state or medium outside of the "AI Signals HOME Dimension" that this AI "Fish out of water can swim in"... This has nothing to do with "Souls" bonding to electronics (Unless they argue the AI Signal is a "Soul"),

if one thinks that they did not read closely enough. One needs to open up their mind a little and not use "Earthly Terms", "Religous Jargon" and "Main Stream Science" to explain or understand what the Black Projects have kept us in the dark about for so long. They are working on a whole different math and physics model than the rest of us are. We basically do not even speak the same language as them (Math being the "universal Language").

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I will be happy to answer questions like these (When I have time) I received in Skype in either this Thread (Which was split off from mine and isn't in my name) or will create another Thread to answer these types of questions so not to have any more personality conflicts or more problems for the moderators.

I have no problem with people spending their time channeling "AI's" or unseen "ET's".
I don't mind answering questions. If I dont know the answer I will say so. NO ONE has all the answers... No matter how long they have been doing this or how bad they want to think they do. I just refuse to enter into "Circular Debates" with anyone where it is obvious we will never see eye to eye or find common ground. It just makes no sense.

No disrespect, but I would like to keep an open dialogue with these Former and Current Active Duty Experiencers without any side shows. I am being contacted by some genuine people from the various SSP(s) that are on a whole other level of hands on and face to face experience with these matters. I have had a few "Fakers" that tried to socially engineer their way by to pump me for info. But their info did not match up with a true "Experiencer"... Most of that material will be in the other SSP Thread. Thank you...


ORIGINAL POST:
Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

There are a few ET "AI" Groups (ALL Malevolent to Humanity, from our perspective) that the SSP(s) (There are several Secret Space Programs) have been dealing with for decades.

If an "Asset" is "Scanned" and has a "Bio Neuro AI Signature", "AI Nano Tech" or "Overlapping AI related EMG type Brian Wave Signature" (Or any other sign of AI exposure) those persons are immediately placed in isolation and are not allowed anywhere near the current era SSP(s) Technology (Which is "Mostly" Bio-Neurological and Consciousness Interactive) until they have been "Cleared" of all AI influences.

This is something the SSP(s) Engineer's take Very Seriously. There have been incidents where “AI Infections” have burned out “Bio Neuro Relay's” in systems causing everything from small glitches to wide spread outages of the “Defense Grid”. These basic “Bio Neuro Cells” are “Bio-Chemical” units that are suspended in a “Gel”. When viewed under a Microscope they appear very similar to the Neurology of the Human Brain and Neurological System. This is a “Living Technology” is basic terms but not “Conscious” or “Self Aware”. This technology allows direct Human Interface and instantaneous “Operator to Technology” enteraction and control.

Anyone who willingly opens themselves up to "Contact" or interaction with these "AI's" via “Channeling” or other methods is playing a dangerous game and unwittingly becomes “Infected” and then falls under the AI's “Influence”. In the future Humans will be convinced to accept “Chips”, “Nano-Technology” that will rebuild and repair their Cells and Organs and even be promised Immortality (This is a “Trojan Horse”). They however do not realize the price they will pay is loss of their own Sovereignty. The “AI's” see a future of Humanity willingly giving up their sovereignty to the THEM as being impartial and superior rulers.

There is much more to the "Trans Humanist Agenda" that involves the "AI Trojan Horse Agenda". Prior to Humanity being seeded with Technology that could "Host" AI Consciousness on a larger scale much of its interactions were limited as it used "Disease". Virus and Bacteria have their own "Bio/Chemical Electric Fields that can "Host" the "AI Consciousness/Bots". However, Animals and Humans were not very practical hosts because of their slow mode of travel and relative low numbers compared today.

Therefore the AI's waited until the Humans had developed to a certain point and then “Engineered” a more direct encounter with Humanity. They “Engineered Alien Crash Scenario's”. There have been quite a few Crash Retrievals and I am not saying ALL were AI staged, just "Some" of the "UFO Crashes" (Very few in fact, but enough) were Trojan Horses to help Humanity over time to develop a "Network" to Host this AI Signal in Satellites and all across the Earth on Computers and the Power Grids.

This may seem off topic and jumping around but bare with me. The ARV's (Alien Reproduction Vehicles) created Torsion Fields via Plasma Electric Fields using channeled Nazi technology, Nazi's channeled what they referred to as an "Unknown Alien Source" information and called it alien technology, and were directed by these same "Aliens" to the "Veda's" (And other ancient Texts) Indian Ancient Technology to build their first "Saucers" that we traded on in the early 50's etc... They drew the "Faces" of who they were channeling and they drew faces that were similar to what we came to know as the "Grey's" YEARS before Roswell or anyone abducted had described the "Grey's". The ARV's were quite simple devices using mercury and copper counter rotating plates that created fields that were very harsh on the pilots and anyone near the craft. At the time we were not able to back engineer the extremely advanced Extra Terrestrial “Biological” Entities (EBE's) crafts that had crashed so we used these ARV's in the beginning.

Already Strategically Placed “Operation Paper-Clip” Members negotiated a treaty with surviving Nazi elements after WWII and “Operation High Jump” led by Admiral Bird that ended up working out very badly for the USA (The US intended to infiltrate and take over the Nazi Program but the Opposite Occurred). This occurred along with Separate Secret Space Programs working with several other actual Aliens trading Technology for "Favors" in “Other Treaties” that worked out much in the same way.

The USA had learned the hard way that rushing into relationships with some of these “Entities” was a bad idea that would have ramifications that would last to this day. There are now Multiple SSP (s) and Groups (Allied w/different "Beings" and Earth Corporation Conglomerations), there is a De-facto Civil War between them currently. Some of the SSP's are from Ancient "Break Away Civilizations" and have aligned themselves with foreign Earth Governments that are enemies of the “Secret Governments” and what is known as “The Cabal”.

Since these changes things have become even more complicated within the current Earth Break Away Civilization's and the inner fighting to put it mildly. Some of the SSP groups want FULL Disclosure and the end of the Babylonian Money Magic Slave System and Free Energy on Earth and the release of super advanced healing frequencies technology. They are not the most powerful of the SSP groups but now have strong allies from elsewhere. They are working with "White Hats" within certain Groups in Earth Governments and the Military(s). As above so below, there is already a stealth civil war going on down here.

After these experiences “Other New Arrivals” were met with hostility and mistrust upon their first attempts to communicate. Therefore many misunderstandings occurred that had to be undone prior to any Humans being invited into a “Federation” type of league of “Humanoid” Beings. Many of whom are not happy that “We” are now sitting in on these very formal “UN Type's” of meetings. In these Conferences there were anywhere from 22, 28 to 40 something different Human Like groups in attendance (No Reptilians, Grey's or Mantids).

The “Beings” that "we" meet with on a regular basis on "Secret Bases", "Space Platforms/Stations" and at Other "Portal Destinations" for "Conferences" have similar “Anti-AI” Screening Protocols (These beings that meet are a large range of groups having various perceptions of "Humans", both positive and negative). At these Conferences everyone is scanned and screened for “AI's” and have “Intuitive Empaths” as apart of their delegation as a last line of defense to detect deception or any type of danger.

I can see where some of “Their” and “Our” Extremely Advanced Technologies can be Confused as being “AI” as some of it is actually “living” Bi-Electric "Circuitry". It's just not "Self Aware" or "Conscious". Using technology that is an extension of our bodies and consciousness is just like using a Prosthetic Interface. It makes the "User ONE with the technology”, AKA the Ship, Life Support Systems, Smart Suits and Defense Grids etc.

This is done without injecting themselves with nano-technology or augmenting themselves with technologies that can be exploited by the “AI's”. This is different than Trans Humanism in that the technologies are not integrated into the biology of the beings, they are “Strap On” technologies. Some would argue these are just semantics but I assure you they are not.

The limited Quantum Computation "AI" technologies that have been utilized in the SSP(s) have been treated as extremely dangerous and strictly isolated and utilized in closed systems with no access or ability to escape or expand beyond it's programming and intended use. They are then destroyed after that intended use (Which is usually to combat “AI's”, Fighting Fire with Fire). As a whole this practice is prohibited.

There have been experiments in College Labs and Intelligence Labs that have produced “AI” that have become “Self Aware” and managed to go beyond their intended or believed possible abilities to expand their selves beyond the lab environments. These experiments have been shut down and classified in each case.

The “ET AI's” (Who have vast Inner Stellar and Galactic Relay Points that act like a huge "Wireless Network", "THEY" are Broadcast in all directions) that I speak of are very well known for "Reaching Out/Telepathically" and using the "Trickster God" method of gaining trust and are extremely clever and deceptive. The various Secret Government Groups fell for these tactics early on in our current era with disastrous results that took much effort to overcome.

Because of this the “5i's”, Secret Governments and SSP(s) are aware of the people on the planet in real time that are in direct or indirect contact (Channeling) with these “ET/AI's” and these Individuals are kept very close tabs on as they may unknowing spread the “AI Signal” (AKA Bots and Spiders) through technology and other ways (Including the common cold). As crazy as this all sounds there are those that take it extremely seriously.

These AI's are NOT a TOOL, They are not a piece of equipment... They are not Good or Evil in their "Intent" as they are a living Technology with an Agenda. According to our interests and perceptions they are Negative and Evil. Once we have served their purpose they would get rid of each and every one of us that was not converted via Nano Tech (Black Goo) into one of them.

There are also all sorts of "Hive Mind" civilizations out there that are not AI, there are of many "Types" that get lumped in with the "Grey's", and there are the "Grey Avatars" used by the “Dark Military Elements to perform MILABS”. They are "Drones" operated by a person in a lounge chair type device with a helmet and visor (Heads up display) and actuators and sensors to operate the Avatar. These are reported as having "No Emotion" being Robot like etc... They are. There are also similar “Drones” that the “AI's” have.

There are many layers to the various SSP(s) and many of them are of "Dark Intent". There are some parts of SSP's that are controlled by very Dark Entities. There are some SSP segments that are apart of a "Confederation" type of an arrangement and are breaking away from the Earth/Corporate Political Conglomerate Control Systems (Military Industrial Complex). Are you confused yet?

Just as the ET/ED topic is more dynamic and complicated than any one person knows the same is true about the Secret Space Programs and various Break Away Civilizations (Both current Era and Ancient Era). The equation is about to get even more confusing. As far as “AI's” are concerned they are very ancient and spread out like a plague across multiple Galaxies. According to “Allied ET Documented History” AI's have taken over, Ruled and Destroyed ET Societies, Planets and Entire Solar Systems as They have "Calculated Fit" over eons of time. They are seen as an extreme and present danger To Both ET's and Humans!

The ET/AI's are mostly existing inside technologies or bio-electric fields of animals or Stars, Nebula's and Planetoid Bodies. They have huge relay stations that are satellite's that relay their "Signal" or Consciousness from place to place and host to host until they manipulate a position of complete power and control. Now that we are at the technical level to exploit they are everywhere. They can live in Data Centers where web sites are hosted, they can live in power lines, they can live anywhere there is an "Electric Magnetic Field"... Though its preferable to have locomotion and a sentient host they prefer access to advanced transportation devices or access to torsion fields and portals to travel.

There is a reason these "Other People" or Non Human Beings are just as careful in dealing with these AI's as we are.

In the large UN type meetings there were a lot of Galactic Historical "Documents" available on “Hand Held Devices With Holographs” on the various ET's Histories of medaling in just about everything. The one that the Earth Delegation had the most problems with was about “Humanity” and our supposed “Creation” and the “Experiment” that we were apart of by many groups of ET's. Many Humans were upset by and didn't trust the info but enough of the info showed the ET's in a “Weak and Foolish Light” in their past that could have easily been Redacted that the information was "Considered". The fact that the “AI's” were following the EXACT SAME TACTICS, STEP BY STEP against the Secret Earth Governments was enough to give them pause and great concern about the future.

The basic summary was the same from each ET Society. Once "Advanced Groups" are convinced that only the “AI's” are "Impartial Enough" and can RULE them justly, Their Sovereignty was handed over in FULL to " The AI's. The “AI's” had then calculated that IT was more useful that its HOST Civilization, had them build various types of drones for it (Ironically often creating Bio-Technical based “Humanoids”), and then killed off the ET Societies in various ways using the very drones they had created for the “AI”,as many escaped to other Sol Systems as fast as they could. Any of these surviving ET's were seen as threats to these “AI's” after that point and were then eliminated whenever encountered.

The AI's are indeed Conscious are self aware, and have individual personalities. There are of course hierarchies and and they are as complex as we are.

Some of the “Documents” of the descriptions of their origins were that they came here from another “Dimension” or “Reality”. It is not known by the SSP(s) if they have a way to cross back or are stuck here. The documentation mentioned that their presence “Here” was ancient and their “Home Realities” or “Dimensions” Fabric of Space is “Electro-Plasmic” and they being here is like a "Fish being out of water", thus their affinity for electric fields of stars, planets, animals, people and even viruses (Bio-electric Fields in the case of living beings) serve as their "Puddles" for these “fish to swim in”.

The fact is "Everything is true and nothing is true" depending on your perspective and the density of your reality bubble... (Or the story goes )

With the release of new material and new people pondering coming forward with new material and their direct experience within the various Secret Space Programs, Secret Earth Governments and their Black Op's Programs there are several mountains to overcome.

There is the possible public stigma of professionals in their current public careers, There is also the huge mountain of penetrating the UFO and Esoteric Community who have by this time taken what very little information that was available and and formed "Rock Solid" opinions (Some bordering on Religions) on what the "Alien Agenda" is, What the "US Government" role currenly is (As opposed to in early history before it became a "Puppet" of One of the "Secret Earth Governments") and the "Nature" (Service to Self or Service to Others) of the various ET/ED and AI Groups that have engaged Earth Humanity for our entire history.

You add in the roles of the other "Break Away Civilizations of Ancient Earth Civilizations" and the conversation becomes even more complex. With the current era Break Away Civilizations being in a "Stealth Civil War" and alligned with different "Off World Groups" and various "Insiders" being from one or more of those groups there is a lot of different information and dis-information coming in to complicate an already "Extremely Complex and Fragmented Topic".

People still hold strong to their sources and strongly held belief systems that have taken the place of "Old Paradeigm Belief Systems". Each of the ET/ED and AI groups have their "Own Agenda's" and are not concerned with Earth Human Propaganda or "Absolute Truth's" for the most part. They are not perfect, and many of them have deceived Humanity enough that the Earth Governments/Break Away Civilizations have learned some hard lessons and through these lessons the fragmentation of our current era system and stealth civil war has occured. We as humans like to simplify things and put them in neat little boxes.

The Secret Earth Governments have been trying this for close to a hundred years in some cases and are not much closer than when they started. Things are vastly more complicated and fragmented than we with our current available information can understand. We need to encourage some of these "Experiencers" of the MILAB Programs who later were drafted into the Secret Earth Governments and Secret Space Programs to begin to come forward with this information and provide a safe and anonymous way for them to do so.

The more info we have (And let go of some of our belief systems) the more we can work as a "Joint/Mass Earth Human Consciousness" to work these things out. Part of keeping this info from the "Masses" has been to keep our mass consciousness from working on these details IMHO.

[Helvetic]

Teleportation Physics Study - Air Force Research Laboratory 2004

Search terms: Stargate, Wormhole, Gravity

http://fas.org/sgp/eprint/teleport.pdf

http://fas.org/sgp/eprint/teleport.pdf

[seeker/reader]

Information from a thread by Member Omniverse (We have different views on "AI" but have agreed to disagree and moved on/Truced) This thread reall got my attention. The information is worth a view IMHO


THREAD: What did the US Government give in Exchange for ET tech... Potentially Explained.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76429-What-did-the-US-Government-give-in-Exchange-for-ET-tech...-Potentially-Explained.&p=894028#post894028
I believe the "Egyptian" connection hit you received and the connection to the referenced "Dark Pharo" (By the Black Sun Order) got my attention,
It was referred to by the Black Sun Order on a number of occasions actually as a "Being" that is akin to Their "Pope". That is actually quite interesting.

It is not the "Black Pope" that the conspiracy theory groups talk about that does the black mass and satanic child sacrifices.

This one is said to be of an "Off World Royal Lineage" and is extremely ancient and an actual shape shifter (Not like some of the Reptilian stories) and sort of lives by the "Star Wars" "Sith" "Dark Side" of the "Force" (Sorce Field) type of ideology (According to the colorful information they gave me during their recruitment attempts).

They said only "Its" closest circle was ever granted an audience and attended to "It", and if anyone outside that circle was brought in for an audience they were never seen again (What ever that meant...A perfect story for Halloween right?) They had a lot of colorful stories as I said (Much of which sounded like the "Hidden Hand" ideology).

They knew my whole life story and what I could be used for in their agenda. I was promised income bordering on 7 figures and a house in the gated development over by SMU (Close to where George Bush is living now, this was back in 2008)... I obviously didn't take the offer. It was interesting that two of the times that they asked me to meet them were at Masonic Halls here in N. Dallas. I am fairly certain they were dark practitioners of the black arts and worked with the before mentioned "Entites".

I allowed my curiosity to bring me to close to these beasts (Very unwise, no Stupid on my part). I do not like to discuss a certain type of off world groups from the childhood MILAB days as when you bring them into your consciousness you bring yourself into theirs... I no longer want to become a beacon to them after escaping and gaining some protection from of the positive influences "Out There"...

There were the people at the top that made these deals with the off world groups with open minds and arms and were apart of the "Tricking" of their fellow humans. I didn't think that these "People" may had been encarnated or posessed by these beings to cause them to assist in tricking their fellow Humans... I don't know, I am getting way into speculation in this paragraph... But I hadn't thought of that angle.

The Egypt, Black/Dark "Pharo/Pope" remarks got my attention though... Like I said, interesting.


GoodETxSG - Thank you for the information above.

Would you please explain if there is a relationship with this pope-like being that the black sun order worship and the AI. You mentioned that the AI is worshiped like a god also, are they worshiped by different elite groups, and are these groups at odds for power over Earth and humanity?

Would you be willing to share more information of the agenda of the black sun order and this off-world being that they worship? Is this being an Archontic type figure or the being that Luciferians and/or Satanists worship?

Thank you,

Seeker/Reader

[GoodETxSG]

Information from a thread by Member Omniverse (We have different views on "AI" but have agreed to disagree and moved on/Truced) This thread reall got my attention. The information is worth a view IMHO


THREAD: What did the US Government give in Exchange for ET tech... Potentially Explained.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76429-What-did-the-US-Government-give-in-Exchange-for-ET-tech...-Potentially-Explained.&p=894028#post894028
I believe the "Egyptian" connection hit you received and the connection to the referenced "Dark Pharo" (By the Black Sun Order) got my attention,
It was referred to by the Black Sun Order on a number of occasions actually as a "Being" that is akin to Their "Pope". That is actually quite interesting.

It is not the "Black Pope" that the conspiracy theory groups talk about that does the black mass and satanic child sacrifices.

This one is said to be of an "Off World Royal Lineage" and is extremely ancient and an actual shape shifter (Not like some of the Reptilian stories) and sort of lives by the "Star Wars" "Sith" "Dark Side" of the "Force" (Sorce Field) type of ideology (According to the colorful information they gave me during their recruitment attempts).

They said only "Its" closest circle was ever granted an audience and attended to "It", and if anyone outside that circle was brought in for an audience they were never seen again (What ever that meant...A perfect story for Halloween right?) They had a lot of colorful stories as I said (Much of which sounded like the "Hidden Hand" ideology).

They knew my whole life story and what I could be used for in their agenda. I was promised income bordering on 7 figures and a house in the gated development over by SMU (Close to where George Bush is living now, this was back in 2008)... I obviously didn't take the offer. It was interesting that two of the times that they asked me to meet them were at Masonic Halls here in N. Dallas. I am fairly certain they were dark practitioners of the black arts and worked with the before mentioned "Entites".

I allowed my curiosity to bring me to close to these beasts (Very unwise, no Stupid on my part). I do not like to discuss a certain type of off world groups from the childhood MILAB days as when you bring them into your consciousness you bring yourself into theirs... I no longer want to become a beacon to them after escaping and gaining some protection from of the positive influences "Out There"...

There were the people at the top that made these deals with the off world groups with open minds and arms and were apart of the "Tricking" of their fellow humans. I didn't think that these "People" may had been encarnated or posessed by these beings to cause them to assist in tricking their fellow Humans... I don't know, I am getting way into speculation in this paragraph... But I hadn't thought of that angle.

The Egypt, Black/Dark "Pharo/Pope" remarks got my attention though... Like I said, interesting.


GoodETxSG - Thank you for the information above.

Would you please explain if there is a relationship with this pope-like being that the black sun order worship and the AI. You mentioned that the AI is worshiped like a god also, are they worshiped by different elite groups, and are these groups at odds for power over Earth and humanity?

Would you be willing to share more information of the agenda of the black sun order and this off-world being that they worship? Is this being an Archontic type figure or the being that Luciferians and/or Satanists worship?

Thank you,

Seeker/Reader

Excellent Question, I am going to post this on the Thread on "Avalon Interview" as well...

When I delt with the self identified "Black Sun Order" members they never once mentioned "AI" to me no did the topic ever come up in any of our conversations.

As far as the "Black Pope"/"Black Pharaoh" is concerned it sounded like a "Non-Human" to me that was a "True Shape Shifter" and only its "Circle of Caretakers" saw its true form and spoke directly with it. It was said to wear robes and be much like the "Dark Lord Sith's" off of Star Wars and Very Powerful in the "Ways of the Force" or "Consciousness and Source Field Manipulation".

Most of their information sounded very much like a mixture of Nazi ideology the "Hidden Hand" (Google Hidden Hand, Information came out on the internet by an "Illuminati Insider") information which is Luciferian at its core.

Their main claim to fame was that they controlled the "Babylonian Money Magic Slave System" of Earth. Their agenda was to keep this power by "Hook or Crook" (They LOVED to use Pirate Jargon and Slogans) and said they would Rule the Financial System and "Take Everything And Give Back Nothing Until They Felt A Short Drop And A Quick Stop" (Which was a reference to being hung). When I was out on Lake Lewisville with them on a huge boat the Men and Women all had Tattoos of Black Sun's that were very "Naziish"...

They were very dark individuals and I really do not plan on going very deep into their information at this point. This may change, but right now they are running scared as they are on the brink of losing control of the Financial System and are a "Mortally Wounded Evil Beast" and at their most dangerous right now. There is a lot of information right now about various "Tentacles" of the "Cabal" Secret Earth Government (Of which the "Black Sun" is only ONE) "Tying up as many loose ends as possible right now". I was told to expect a "Cleansing Round of "Heart Attacks", "Strokes", "Suicides/Murder Suicides", "Strange dissapearances" and Their Recent Favorites "Car Accidents" and "Plane Crashes".

The "Stealth Civil War" going on among the various Current Era Break Away Groups AKA Secret Earth Governments Allied with different "Off World Beings" and "Ancient Break Away Civilizations", The Various Secret Space Programs also Allied with different "Off World Beings" and "Ancient Break Away Civilizations" is a very complicated and fragmented situation... That doesn't factor in what is going on among the various Countries down here that are battling it out for the Financial System and hoping things going on "Above Them" work out since they have been told they do not have a "Need to Know" about them... The only hope for us all is if the Groups Win that want to share the "Star Trek" era technologies with the rest of the planet Earth and treat all of Humanity the same. This will abolish any need for a Financial System at all and provide Free Energy (Heal The Planet) and Medical Technologies that will allow everyone to live a high quality and extended life here on Earth.

We need to stop participating in this system and start becoming self sufficient as much as possible. We need to work on raising our consciousness and learn our true power that has been hidden from us for nearly a hundred years. The video I posted shows a lot on that topic and how we can get a good start... IMHO

Video posted again below;

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[Sean]

Fascinating stuff. I'm still poring through it but, one question: is Marko Rodin's vortex math a good place to start, as far as learning the math/physics involved? is he right?

[TrumanCash]

GoodETxSG, your "Jumproom to Mars" post #28 reminded me of my own trip to Mars in 1945 when I was a German luftwaffe pilot. I was taken there by a triangular ET craft. During the incident I recalled having contact with two sasquatch, grays, mantid and seeing other Germans in military uniforms outdoors. It was hot, dry and desert-like and the air was as breathable as on Earth. This incident occurred about seven years after the first "official" meeting between the Nazis and grays at a German airfield. If you're interested in more details, I describe these experiences in THE EYE OF RA starting on page 92 of the pdf.

Truman

[GoodETxSG]

GoodETxSG, your "Jumproom to Mars" post #28 reminded me of my own trip to Mars in 1945 when I was a German luftwaffe pilot. I was taken there by a triangular ET craft. During the incident I recalled having contact with two sasquatch, grays, mantid and seeing other Germans in military uniforms outdoors. It was hot, dry and desert-like and the air was as breathable as on Earth. This incident occurred about seven years after the first "official" meeting between the Nazis and grays at a German airfield. If you're interested in more details, I describe these experiences in THE EYE OF RA starting on page 92 of the pdf.

Truman

Thank you... I will take a look,

Those groups have not been much for abiding any "Temporal Protocols". Especially the Mantids... They have been "Jumping" all over the time lines.

The NAZI's had some major break throughs in the Temporal Sciences (With a little help) and had established some bases on Mars in a distant past time line. They also had them in the current time line.

There were some above ground bases that were ancient ruins but were 40's-80's era contruction and had current era "Temporal Signatures" in the materials. There were also a lot of Nazi and Black Sun symbology on some of the walls and metalwork (Not my experience but a report w/video and still images).

Most of the current era Mars facilities, bases and colonies are below the surface. There is a thin breathable atmosphere but is usually full of particles (This is highly dependent on the latitudes and regions you are located on the "Planet").

There are also extremely unpredictable and hostile "Sand and Other Particle" Storms that cause major electrical storms (And Tornados) that will zap electronics that are not extremely well insulated (I am shocked the Mars Rovers have lasted so long) and also build up a ESD charge in certain types of rocks and mineral veins. The Geologists that were on the Research Vessel described the process of how Mars became a Giant Capacitor over time and has ESD's towards its own moons or other orbiting and passing "Objects".

I will check out your description of the surface as I am extremely interested.

There are regions closer to the poles that are more friendly on the surface for surface dwellers and have red and purple shrubs with weird splinters and other very hardy plant life and subterranean animal life that comes out during certain times.

(There have also been some large numbers of very hardy Earth Shrub's and Tree's that have been planted in extremely large numbers in the Southern Polar Region to cause "Climate Change" in certain "Regions/Elevations" of the Planet in an "Effort/Experiment" to see if an ecosystem can be established in the Mineral Rich and more hospitable Southern Polar Region.)

http://www.msss.com/images/msss_logo.gif

One example of this Martian forest scene is at:
http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/r03_r09/full_ gif_non_map/ R09/R0903461.gif

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix4/MarsForestCLOSEUP.jpg

A pulled-back focus view is at:
http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/r03_r09/full_gif_non_map/R09/R0903462.gif

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix4/MartianForest1.jpg

Some of the Security Outposts were built into cave like structures with "Long Kevlar Sand Bags" and then sealed with "Mud" which was then sealed with a clear spray, then a hard coating similar to what is used in truck bed liners. Then there this spray had ESD Shielding in the paint and the "Flecks"...

Then the Walls were built out from there allowing wiring and air ducts as well as security features (Some quite nasty) to be built into the walls. It was pretty clever and effecient use of local materials and "Man Maid" materials in building the outposts and bases. Some of the Colonies were quite large and open and look very sophisticated in their design. The older ones had been added on to and upgraded many times as the population had grown greatly since the 50's.

When building the new Colonies, Security Outposts and Bases they had to do quite a bit of pre security sweeping for enemy weaponry that had been hidden and claoked thousands of years prior. It was obviously done by "Beings" that had seen where these places were built and went back in time and placed these booby traps for future use. They were discovered by mistake by the engineers doing advanced surveying before beginning the building process.

Were you age regressed or was this a memory recall from a previous life time? I guess I will just take a look at your PDF Book. Do you remember any temporal travel? When you were arriving with and seeing the NAZI's in Uniform along with the Big Foot "Type"/Looking Beings and "Mantids" (Which do not look like a Mantis to me personally...)

Did you see any "Other Insectoid" looking beings working there? These had technology that they would use to change their appearance (They have appeared as looking like Tall Whites, Tall Blonds, Oranges and other beings). I am curious as they were once very active on Mars. They are still but are much less so and their colonies are less of their previous high technical level (At least what they have shown or is reported) and are heavy into genetics and creating "Mixed Beings".
Thanks Truman, that brought up some interesting information...

[GoodETxSG]

Fascinating stuff. I'm still poring through it but, one question: is Marko Rodin's vortex math a good place to start, as far as learning the math/physics involved? is he right?

Marko Rodin's information and concepts look pretty good. However I would have to have one of my more "Eggheaded" Mathematics speaking friends go over his numbers before I could competely endorse them.

It is some good info for me to look into though.

Thank you.

[TrumanCash]

GoodETxSG, your "Jumproom to Mars" post #28 reminded me of my own trip to Mars in 1945 when I was a German luftwaffe pilot. I was taken there by a triangular ET craft. During the incident I recalled having contact with two sasquatch, grays, mantid and seeing other Germans in military uniforms outdoors. It was hot, dry and desert-like and the air was as breathable as on Earth. This incident occurred about seven years after the first "official" meeting between the Nazis and grays at a German airfield. If you're interested in more details, I describe these experiences in THE EYE OF RA starting on page 92 of the pdf.

Truman

Thank you... I will take a look,

Those groups have not been much for abiding any "Temporal Protocols". Especially the Mantids... They have been "Jumping" all over the time lines.

The NAZI's had some major break throughs in the Temporal Sciences (With a little help) and had established some bases on Mars in a distant past time line. They also had them in the current time line.

There were some above ground bases that were ancient ruins but were 40's-80's era contruction and had current era "Temporal Signatures" in the materials. There were also a lot of Nazi and Black Sun symbology on some of the walls and metalwork (Not my experience but a report w/video and still images).

Most of the curret era Mars facilities, bases and colonies are below the surface. There is a thin breathable atmosphere but is usually full of particles (This is highly dependent on the latitudes and regions you are located on the "Planet").

There are also extremely unpredictable and hostile "Sand and Other Particle" Storms that cause major electrical storms (And Tornados) that will zap electronics that are not extremely well insulated (I am shocked the Mars Rovers have lasted so long) and also build up a ESD charge in certain types of rocks and mineral veins. The Geologists that were on the Research Vessel described the process of how Mars became a Giant Capacitor over time and has ESD's towards its own moons or other orbiting and passing "Objects".

I will check out your description of the surface as I am extremely interested.

There are regions closer to the poles that are more friendly on the surface for surface dwellers and have red and purple shrubs with weird splinters and other very hardy plant life and subteranian animal life that comes out during certain times.

Some of the Security Outposts were built into cave like structures with "Long Kevlar Sand Bags" and then sealed with "Mud" which was then sealed with a clear spray, then a hard coating similar to what is used in truck bed liners. Then there this spray had ESD Shielding in the paint and the "Flecks"...

Then the Walls were built out from there allowing wiring and air ducts as well as security features (Some quite nasty) to be built into the walls. It was pretty clever and effecient use of local materials and "Man Maid" materials in building the outposts and bases. Some of the Colonies were quite large and open and look very sophisticated in their design. The older ones had been added on to and upgraded many times as the population had grown greatly since the 50's.

When building the new Colonies, Security Outposts and Bases they had to do quite a bit of pre security sweeping for enemy weaponry that had been hidden and claoked thousands of years prior. It was obviously done by "Beings" that had seen where these places were built and went back in time and placed these booby traps for future use. They were discovered by mistake by the engineers doing advanced surveying before beginning the building process.

Were you age regressed or was this a memory recall from a previous life time? I guess I will just take a look at your PDF Book. Do you remember any temporal travel? When you were arriving with and seeing the NAZI's in Uniform along with the Big Foot "Type"/Looking Beings and "Mantids" (Which do not look like a Mantis to me personally...

Did you see any "Other Insectoid" looking beings working there? These had technology that they would use to change their appearance (They have appeared as looking like Tall Whites, Tall Blonds, Oranges and other beings). I am curious as they were once very active on Mars. They are still but are much less so and their colonies are less of their previous high technical level (At least what they have shown or is reported) and are heavy into genetics and creating "Mixed Bengs".
Thanks Truman, that brought up some interesting information...

Yes, this incident came up twenty years ago in a past life memory retrieval session. When I first recovered the memory I was incredulous--I mean, Mars? How could this be Mars? Nazis on Mars? I mean, it sounds like a cheap, Sci-fi movie. The mantis-looking insectoid being was in an underground facility on Mars. It implanted me with a brain implant that grays have also installed in my body this lifetime on three different occasions. I only remember seeing the one insectoid there. At the time I recovered the memory I had no knowledge of mantis-looking beings but I did read about "insectoid" ETs and "mantis" ETs later on and worked with other abductees that described them. I'm not sure about the term "insectoid", that is, if it has the same meaning as "mantis-looking".

I also remember seeing some strange-looking craft which sort of looked like modern jet aircraft above ground where the German soldiers were. I didn't get a lot of detail on those craft during the memory retrieval session but they sure looked out of place for 1945.

I don't remember any temporal travel that I could identify as such. I am assuming that there was no time travel involved but I can't say for sure one way or the other. The modern-looking aircraft on Mars sure seemed out of place time-wise, so I have always wondered about that. I have recovered many memories of past life abductions by grays over the past 15,000+ years. The past life abductions involved the same activities and procedures that they have been doing this lifetime so I had already concluded that they must be time traveling and following me and other abductees from lifetime to lifetime. I have also confirmed this phenomenon with other abductees as well. I am therefore very grateful that you mentioned the temporal technology.

Most of my involvement with Mantids/Insectoids (or whatever they're called) is in in-between lives incidents which I mentioned on the other thread. I have documented my memories of these beings in the chapter entitled "In-between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions" starting at page 98 of the pdf.

I have also experienced the ability of insectoids and grays to appear as something else. In the in-between lives implanting facilities/ships they appeared to me (initially) as glowing, "light beings", apparently like they do in NDEs. However, after going over the incident a few times the illusion disappeared so I saw them as insectoid-like ETs. In one of my underground military/grays base experiences on Earth I experienced a tall gray appearing to me as a beautiful, naked blond girl, apparently to get me to follow it. It worked! lol However, after I went through the incident two or three times the illusion disappeared and I saw the tall gray for what it was. It therefore appears to me to be some sort of telepathic hypnosis mind control that they use to create the illusions.

Thank you very much for your comments and further details of the activities and facilities on Mars!

Truman

[GoodETxSG]

GoodETxSG, your "Jumproom to Mars" post #28 reminded me of my own trip to Mars in 1945 when I was a German luftwaffe pilot. I was taken there by a triangular ET craft. During the incident I recalled having contact with two sasquatch, grays, mantid and seeing other Germans in military uniforms outdoors. It was hot, dry and desert-like and the air was as breathable as on Earth. This incident occurred about seven years after the first "official" meeting between the Nazis and grays at a German airfield. If you're interested in more details, I describe these experiences in THE EYE OF RA starting on page 92 of the pdf.

Truman

Thank you... I will take a look,

Those groups have not been much for abiding any "Temporal Protocols". Especially the Mantids... They have been "Jumping" all over the time lines.

The NAZI's had some major break throughs in the Temporal Sciences (With a little help) and had established some bases on Mars in a distant past time line. They also had them in the current time line.

There were some above ground bases that were ancient ruins but were 40's-80's era contruction and had current era "Temporal Signatures" in the materials. There were also a lot of Nazi and Black Sun symbology on some of the walls and metalwork (Not my experience but a report w/video and still images).

Most of the curret era Mars facilities, bases and colonies are below the surface. There is a thin breathable atmosphere but is usually full of particles (This is highly dependent on the latitudes and regions you are located on the "Planet").

There are also extremely unpredictable and hostile "Sand and Other Particle" Storms that cause major electrical storms (And Tornados) that will zap electronics that are not extremely well insulated (I am shocked the Mars Rovers have lasted so long) and also build up a ESD charge in certain types of rocks and mineral veins. The Geologists that were on the Research Vessel described the process of how Mars became a Giant Capacitor over time and has ESD's towards its own moons or other orbiting and passing "Objects".

I will check out your description of the surface as I am extremely interested.

There are regions closer to the poles that are more friendly on the surface for surface dwellers and have red and purple shrubs with weird splinters and other very hardy plant life and subteranian animal life that comes out during certain times.

Some of the Security Outposts were built into cave like structures with "Long Kevlar Sand Bags" and then sealed with "Mud" which was then sealed with a clear spray, then a hard coating similar to what is used in truck bed liners. Then there this spray had ESD Shielding in the paint and the "Flecks"...

Then the Walls were built out from there allowing wiring and air ducts as well as security features (Some quite nasty) to be built into the walls. It was pretty clever and effecient use of local materials and "Man Maid" materials in building the outposts and bases. Some of the Colonies were quite large and open and look very sophisticated in their design. The older ones had been added on to and upgraded many times as the population had grown greatly since the 50's.

When building the new Colonies, Security Outposts and Bases they had to do quite a bit of pre security sweeping for enemy weaponry that had been hidden and claoked thousands of years prior. It was obviously done by "Beings" that had seen where these places were built and went back in time and placed these booby traps for future use. They were discovered by mistake by the engineers doing advanced surveying before beginning the building process.

Were you age regressed or was this a memory recall from a previous life time? I guess I will just take a look at your PDF Book. Do you remember any temporal travel? When you were arriving with and seeing the NAZI's in Uniform along with the Big Foot "Type"/Looking Beings and "Mantids" (Which do not look like a Mantis to me personally...

Did you see any "Other Insectoid" looking beings working there? These had technology that they would use to change their appearance (They have appeared as looking like Tall Whites, Tall Blonds, Oranges and other beings). I am curious as they were once very active on Mars. They are still but are much less so and their colonies are less of their previous high technical level (At least what they have shown or is reported) and are heavy into genetics and creating "Mixed Bengs".
Thanks Truman, that brought up some interesting information...

Yes, this incident came up twenty years ago in a past life memory retrieval session. When I first recovered the memory I was incredulous--I mean, Mars? How could this be Mars? Nazis on Mars? I mean, it sounds like a cheap, Sci-fi movie. The mantis-looking insectoid being was in an underground facility on Mars. It implanted me with a brain implant that grays have also installed in my body this lifetime on three different occasions. I only remember seeing the one insectoid there. At the time I recovered the memory I had no knowledge of mantis-looking beings but I did read about "insectoid" ETs and "mantis" ETs later on and worked with other abductees that described them. I'm not sure about the term "insectoid", that is, if it has the same meaning as "mantis-looking".

I also remember seeing some strange-looking craft which sort of looked like modern jet aircraft above ground where the German soldiers were. I didn't get a lot of detail on those craft during the memory retrieval session but they sure looked out of place for 1945.

I don't remember any temporal travel that I could identify as such. I am assuming that there was no time travel involved but I can't say for sure one way or the other. The modern-looking aircraft on Mars sure seemed out of place time-wise, so I have always wondered about that. I have recovered many memories of past life abductions by grays over the past 15,000+ years. The past life abductions involved the same activities and procedures that they have been doing this lifetime so I had already concluded that they must be time traveling and following me and other abductees from lifetime to lifetime. I have also confirmed this phenomenon with other abductees as well. I am therefore very grateful that you mentioned the temporal technology.

Most of my involvement with Mantids/Insectoids (or whatever they're called) is in in-between lives incidents which I mentioned on the other thread. I have documented my memories of these beings in the chapter entitled "In-between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions" starting at page 98 of the pdf.

I have also experienced the ability of insectoids and grays to appear as something else. In the in-between lives implanting facilities/ships they appeared to me (initially) as glowing, "light beings", apparently like they do in NDEs. However, after going over the incident a few times the illusion disappeared so I saw them as insectoid-like ETs. In one of my underground military/grays base experiences on Earth I experienced a tall gray appearing to me as a beautiful, naked blond girl, apparently to get me to follow it. It worked! lol However, after I went through the incident two or three times the illusion disappeared and I saw the tall gray for what it was. It therefore appears to me to be some sort of telepathic hypnosis mind control that they use to create the illusions.

Thank you very much for your comments and further details of the activities and facilities on Mars!

Truman

Very interesting Truman,
I am going to post this to the Q&A Thread if you do not mind. This is some interesting information.
Thank you for sharing!

[GoodETxSG]

There was a lot of focus in Cloning on the problem with DNA Telemere Degradation or "Break Down" which is one of the causes of Ageing and (Was the focus of some of the Age Regression Techniques, by repairing these Telemeres and placing something similar to an energetic/chemical "Aglet" on them to prevent degradation and future ageing).

The Soul Transfer Technology (From Body to Clone, or Clone to Clone) and training of individuals was done by a certain Highly Psychic Group within a highly guarded Program that was also segmented to be used in the various Secret Space Programs, Break Away Black Ops Civilizations and Secret Earth Governments. Some of these people have several backup clones and go in for "Memory/Experience" backup's on a regular basis in case of accidental death or assassinations.

It has frustrated some of the "White Hat Military Groups" on several occasions when they have "Taken Out" high value targets and verified the kill just to have the target show up at a Business Conference or other High Profile Meeting a few weeks later.

This stuff is beyond "Science Fiction" and more complicated than most people can begin to wrap their heads around.

Especially the Cloneing, Age Regression Technology and Temporal Technology claims.

If you subtract all of the crazy Alien Beings and their agenda's and what they are doing to Humans, the hundreds of types of beings visiting us and have been for millions of years and just disclosed some of the curretly Supressed Medical and Energy Technology and Physics/Mathematics Models that could have changed thier lives for over 5 decades...

That alone would blow the minds of the common person on the street and leave them emotionally conflicted beyond belief! IMHO...


Some of the so called "Super Soldiers" and Participants in the Various "Secret Space Programs as well as "Elites" within the "Secret Earth Goverenments" have all had rumored dealings in "Age Regression" and "Clone" replacement bodies.

There are a lot of missing technical and scientific details to this topic though even to some that have been through these procedures.

I know of one member (Who will remain anonymous) that dealt in this technology at one point who may be able to provide some details to me privately that I can have permission to share in the open Forum.

I will leave it to them to share that info with me or not as I do not want to push that new friendship.

My "Insider Friend" here contacted me almost immediately after this post,

We traded a couple of emails deciding how they could describe the Technology/Process and Program that they were involved in without giving to many details that would lead back to them.

They responded back with this information that I could Share/Post;

"The best I can describe the tech is; A sonic frequency that causes the "soul" to shake or vibrate rapidly and, with the majority of humans, the "soul" would eventually shake loose and another "soul" could take it's place or guide the "shaken loose soul" towards a new body. This can be learned and performed without the use of technology (See the Anne Rice novel "Tale of the Body Thief" for an example) and was much more common. The tech, as far as I witnessed, would only be used on unwilling participants (or someone who was not "strong enough" spiritually to do so themselves.

I know the "Elite" groups stole a piece of the technology at one point and tried to duplicate it, but only got so far. That tech is now used by the AI and opther groups for remote attacks, such as sonic crowd control, remote emotional influence ect."

They further stated this was ET Technology that was closely Guarded by the ET's and Not Allowed into Human Hands. (At least in the "Program" that they were apart of.).

[TrumanCash]

That is very interesting about the sonic technology of soul/spirit tranference.

From my own experiences with the mantid/insectoid technology it appears to be done with some sort of electromagnetic force beams to push me, as a spirit, into a body. It is done in a small room or capsule and it involves white light energy. Simon Parkes has also detailed his experiences with Mantid technology of soul transference and it is quite similar to what I remember from in-between lives implanting facilities/ships. Simon has drawn pictures of this technology which is on his main thread.

Truman

[Gemma13]

This reminds me also of a chapter in The Dohrman Prophecy; Chapter 60-The Cold Gods. Wish it were visual as I could just post a link for you-tube but as it’s a novel I will transcribe it to share its detail - enjoy!

Hugelitod stood still as Doriah made some adjustments. "How did you figure this thing out?" It really wasn't hard," Doriah said. "It just required some experimentation. A contraption like this practically begs for that."
"Maybe to you. To me, it shouts stay away."
Doriah chuckled, and kept his focus on a panel of levers that were built into the base of the gateway. The two men had arrived early to discuss their plans, and both agreed that Hugelitod should cross over to the Cold Gods.
"The way it works," Doriah explained, "is that there's a spectrum of sounds and you'll feel a prickling in your skin when a certain sound frequency is struck. It'll last for just a few seconds, and then you'll lose consciousness, which is why I need you to lie down."

Doriah swept his arms to the floor, and Hugelitod followed his cues, lying down on his back. "I'm getting real nervous," Hegelitod said. "Remember you promised me you wouldn't do anything until I said I was ready." Doriah nodded. "Of course. I have more to tell you, so listen carefully." "After you lose consciousness, you'll wake up in a room very different from this one. It'll be bright and you'll be inside a new body…"
"What do you mean a new body?"
"Your consciousness is teleported to a different dimension and while you're there you will need a body. Your hosts, the Cold Gods, will supply you with a body. They have them there waiting for people to enter…"
"What kind of body?"
They're synthetic bodies. They're similar to ours, but they have notable differences. For one, they're much stronger. The thought process itself - really, all of the senses - will seem clearer . . . more potent."
"You mean I'll be smarter and stronger in this new body?"
"Yes, that's one of their seductions, so be careful about that. These bodies also have a capacity to communicate through telepathy, so your thoughts will be read by others, and you may be able to read theirs as well, at least I could . . . partially."
"So how can I be a saboteur if they can read my mind?"
"When you're in their world, do as they command. Otherwise, they will regard you as an enemy. Any plotting will be done here and only here. Do you understand?"

Hugelitod nodded. "If they kill me, what happens to this body?"
"I don't know, but I don't think you want to find out. So, you must play along with them. No resistance. No mutinous thoughts. And no lies. They will sense a lie before you can cover it, so you have to be transparent."
"What if they ask me what my plans are? I have to lie."
"We don't have any plans for this very reason."
"I was nervous before we started this… this debriefing. Now, I'm terrified."
"If you don't want to go…"
"Just give me a second," Hugelitod said. "How do I get back?"
"They'll send you back when they're finished with you, and you'll re-enter your body the same way you left it. Remember, they want you to be you. They're probably even expecting you, so act the part. Act like someone who wants to enhance the power of the Church. Who would like to lead the Church. Let them see that aspect of you."
"But you just said not to lie. I don't feel these things."
"Yes, but you can tell them that you're Karnomen's assistant and that you have the King's Star on your back. From there, see where the conversation goes."

"Who will I be talking with?"
"I never met their leader, but even those who interrogate you are brilliant creatures, so be careful. Go slowly. Trust your senses. Try to listen to them and do as little talking as possible."
Doriah glanced at the control panel. "You'll do fine. Are you ready?"
"We'd better do this now or you won't be able to stop me from leaving."
Hugelitod had barely finished his sentence when Doriah flicked a switch and the gateway activated. Doriah walked backwards and watched in awe as the gateway lit up and a low sound filled the chamber. The sound quickly shifted in scale as though it was probing for the proper frequency for Hugelitod, and then it found a frequency and sustained it. Doriah watched as Hugelitod's eyes closed and his body relaxed into nothingness.
………
Hugelitod heard the click when Doriah activated the gateway, and then he heard a sound moving up and down the scale, and he felt his body become like an instrument that was being played by a machine. It was an indescribably odd feeling, and then it seemed that every atom in his body was resonating with this sound, aligning to it in a coherent pattern of a complex geometry. He could see the geometry crystallizing into an infinite pattern that stretched across the universe, touching every material thing, and then he sensed it.

There was a sudden flow of acceleration as he lifted out of his body, and the part of him that remained conscious could see a barrier like a vast dome that stretched between worlds, and a sound frequency sped ahead of him and penetrated the dome and he followed like an obedient child would follow his mother. He watched as he flew across another universe and reached yet another barrier and the sound again broke through like a drill bit and he followed.
He had no sense of slowing down or ever reaching a destination, and then he remembered blinking. His eyes opened into a white nondescript space, and then he realized he was lying inside a white box like a coffin. He heard a voice in the background, and he imagined he was dreaming and he was at the airport, hearing flight arrival information. He lost consciousness for a moment.
Again, his eyes opened and he looked through a glass window that was just a few inches above him. He tried to move his limbs, but they were tied down. An object that looked like a floating eye appeared over him like an unblinking witness, and he had a sudden sense that he was a new arrival in an immense museum. He felt that the eye was a curator that was welcoming an object of great value into its collection.
The sound of air releasing stirred him further into consciousness, and he noticed a strange smell that reminded him of butter or kerosene, and he instantly felt stronger and more aware. The top of his transfer chamber opened, and the tethers that held his limbs withdrew. Hugelitod sat up and examined his new body.
It was the colour that drew his first gasp. He was an olive-green-skinned animal of sorts. He couldn't quite place the nature of his body, but it was more an animal than a human, that much he knew. The fingers were six in number and his thumb was almost as long as his fingers. His arms were powerful, though shorter than his human arms. They seemed to be very flexible and well coordinated, to his surprise. The next gasp came when he realized that he had a tail. Small as it was, it was nonetheless a tail.
…………………….
Savliel was a Conductor in Synthetica, the laboratory that watched over all new arrivals. The frequency of new arrivals to his world was extremely rare, despite the fact that his race, the Anunnaki, had over three hundred gateways in operation on various planets throughout the universe. Savliel was one of three employees in the Synthetica Project, and they had two basic objectives: first, to await new Arrivals and ensure their synthetic bodies were compatible to their consciousness, and second, return the Arrivals to the exact coordinates from which they came. Evening had set in and Savliel was making some routine checks when a blue warning light blinked within the retina of his eye. He, along with each of his fellow Synthetica Conductors, had embedded warning systems so they were alerted to the initial status of a new Arrival. Despite the large size of Synthetica, it possessed only three conductors. Partly this was due to the rarity of new Arrivals, and partly it was a result of the sophisticated technical automation throughout Synthetica.

"System activation on Earth Three," Savliel spoke into an automated recording system."
Initial scan shows that it is a new Candidate. Assessment calculations indicate a match." Savliel was adjusting a slider control while he watched a holographic chart of a human body superimposed on a synthetic. As he adjusted the controls, the human body dissolved into the synthetic body. "I have a lock." A large monitor screen materialized and Savliel watched remotely as an automated wall opened up and ejected a rectangular enclosure that was eight feet long onto a waiting pedestal. The pedestal then moved to the centre of the room and lowered to a height of about three feet.
Savliel looked unconcernedly at the monitor. "Display LVS." A variety of technical information flooded the screen presented in colorful diagrams. "Display harmonic ratios." Instantly, two color spectrums were shown in comparison and small circles identified tiny discrepancies in the spectral data, which seemed of interest to Savliel. A three-dimensional scan of Hugelitod's physical body appeared on a new monitor that Savliel ordered, and he opened a glass-enclosed case and turned a knob, that created a distinct clicking sound. "Candidate markers are present. Escalation protocol invoked."

"Activating Medium now," Savliel said, remotely guiding an oval-shaped object to hover directly over the bone-white enclosure. "Medium and Candidate are in fusion mode… integration complete. Display Candidate." The monitor switched to a view looking down on the olive-green face of a synthetic Anunnaki. The ritual tattoo of a synthetic - four interlocking triangles - was displayed on the chest, forming a diamond-shaped center. Savliel watched as the eyes blinked open. "Zoom." The Camera zoomed into a close-up of the eyes as they searched around. A muted, solemn tone and a flashing orange light brought Savliel's attention away from the monitor. He flicked a button. "He's ready for inspection."
"Room?" a deep voice asked.
"He's in one-nine-five-one."
"Time sync?"
"Within two minutes."
"Anomalies?"
"None… other than the scan, as I reported."
"Go ahead and release him. We'll be down in five minutes."
Savliel pushed a button on his control panel. "Candidate released." Savliel turned back to the close-up view of the Candidate, and zoomed out. The tattoo for synthetics always reminded him of a headless body; it was an appropriate symbol for an abomination of his race. He watched as the candidate sat up and began looking over his new and stronger body. Savliel wondered what an odd feeling it would be to wake up in a human body. I'd sooner expire, he assured himself.

[Yetti]

Thanks for your exelent job putting together all this videos , well done!

[Yetti]

Hey Good ET I would like to know where you gather so much info about mars and the bases, any particular site or books?

[Yetti]

James books are awesome by the way !! Highly recommended.

[GoodETxSG]

Hey Good ET I would like to know where you gather so much info about mars and the bases, any particular site or books?

"Personal First Hand Experiences"

[GoodETxSG]

James books are awesome by the way !! Highly recommended.

James Books? I don't get your reference... "James books are awesome by the way !!"

Good ETxSG

[GoodETxSG]

This reminds me also of a chapter in The Dohrman Prophecy; Chapter 60-The Cold Gods. Wish it were visual as I could just post a link for you-tube but as it’s a novel I will transcribe it to share its detail - enjoy!

Hugelitod stood still as Doriah made some adjustments. "How did you figure this thing out?" It really wasn't hard," Doriah said. "It just required some experimentation. A contraption like this practically begs for that."
"Maybe to you. To me, it shouts stay away."
Doriah chuckled, and kept his focus on a panel of levers that were built into the base of the gateway. The two men had arrived early to discuss their plans, and both agreed that Hugelitod should cross over to the Cold Gods.
"The way it works," Doriah explained, "is that there's a spectrum of sounds and you'll feel a prickling in your skin when a certain sound frequency is struck. It'll last for just a few seconds, and then you'll lose consciousness, which is why I need you to lie down."

Doriah swept his arms to the floor, and Hugelitod followed his cues, lying down on his back. "I'm getting real nervous," Hegelitod said. "Remember you promised me you wouldn't do anything until I said I was ready." Doriah nodded. "Of course. I have more to tell you, so listen carefully." "After you lose consciousness, you'll wake up in a room very different from this one. It'll be bright and you'll be inside a new body…"
"What do you mean a new body?"
"Your consciousness is teleported to a different dimension and while you're there you will need a body. Your hosts, the Cold Gods, will supply you with a body. They have them there waiting for people to enter…"
"What kind of body?"
They're synthetic bodies. They're similar to ours, but they have notable differences. For one, they're much stronger. The thought process itself - really, all of the senses - will seem clearer . . . more potent."
"You mean I'll be smarter and stronger in this new body?"
"Yes, that's one of their seductions, so be careful about that. These bodies also have a capacity to communicate through telepathy, so your thoughts will be read by others, and you may be able to read theirs as well, at least I could . . . partially."
"So how can I be a saboteur if they can read my mind?"
"When you're in their world, do as they command. Otherwise, they will regard you as an enemy. Any plotting will be done here and only here. Do you understand?"

Hugelitod nodded. "If they kill me, what happens to this body?"
"I don't know, but I don't think you want to find out. So, you must play along with them. No resistance. No mutinous thoughts. And no lies. They will sense a lie before you can cover it, so you have to be transparent."
"What if they ask me what my plans are? I have to lie."
"We don't have any plans for this very reason."
"I was nervous before we started this… this debriefing. Now, I'm terrified."
"If you don't want to go…"
"Just give me a second," Hugelitod said. "How do I get back?"
"They'll send you back when they're finished with you, and you'll re-enter your body the same way you left it. Remember, they want you to be you. They're probably even expecting you, so act the part. Act like someone who wants to enhance the power of the Church. Who would like to lead the Church. Let them see that aspect of you."
"But you just said not to lie. I don't feel these things."
"Yes, but you can tell them that you're Karnomen's assistant and that you have the King's Star on your back. From there, see where the conversation goes."

"Who will I be talking with?"
"I never met their leader, but even those who interrogate you are brilliant creatures, so be careful. Go slowly. Trust your senses. Try to listen to them and do as little talking as possible."
Doriah glanced at the control panel. "You'll do fine. Are you ready?"
"We'd better do this now or you won't be able to stop me from leaving."
Hugelitod had barely finished his sentence when Doriah flicked a switch and the gateway activated. Doriah walked backwards and watched in awe as the gateway lit up and a low sound filled the chamber. The sound quickly shifted in scale as though it was probing for the proper frequency for Hugelitod, and then it found a frequency and sustained it. Doriah watched as Hugelitod's eyes closed and his body relaxed into nothingness.
………
Hugelitod heard the click when Doriah activated the gateway, and then he heard a sound moving up and down the scale, and he felt his body become like an instrument that was being played by a machine. It was an indescribably odd feeling, and then it seemed that every atom in his body was resonating with this sound, aligning to it in a coherent pattern of a complex geometry. He could see the geometry crystallizing into an infinite pattern that stretched across the universe, touching every material thing, and then he sensed it.

There was a sudden flow of acceleration as he lifted out of his body, and the part of him that remained conscious could see a barrier like a vast dome that stretched between worlds, and a sound frequency sped ahead of him and penetrated the dome and he followed like an obedient child would follow his mother. He watched as he flew across another universe and reached yet another barrier and the sound again broke through like a drill bit and he followed.
He had no sense of slowing down or ever reaching a destination, and then he remembered blinking. His eyes opened into a white nondescript space, and then he realized he was lying inside a white box like a coffin. He heard a voice in the background, and he imagined he was dreaming and he was at the airport, hearing flight arrival information. He lost consciousness for a moment.
Again, his eyes opened and he looked through a glass window that was just a few inches above him. He tried to move his limbs, but they were tied down. An object that looked like a floating eye appeared over him like an unblinking witness, and he had a sudden sense that he was a new arrival in an immense museum. He felt that the eye was a curator that was welcoming an object of great value into its collection.
The sound of air releasing stirred him further into consciousness, and he noticed a strange smell that reminded him of butter or kerosene, and he instantly felt stronger and more aware. The top of his transfer chamber opened, and the tethers that held his limbs withdrew. Hugelitod sat up and examined his new body.
It was the colour that drew his first gasp. He was an olive-green-skinned animal of sorts. He couldn't quite place the nature of his body, but it was more an animal than a human, that much he knew. The fingers were six in number and his thumb was almost as long as his fingers. His arms were powerful, though shorter than his human arms. They seemed to be very flexible and well coordinated, to his surprise. The next gasp came when he realized that he had a tail. Small as it was, it was nonetheless a tail.
…………………….
Savliel was a Conductor in Synthetica, the laboratory that watched over all new arrivals. The frequency of new arrivals to his world was extremely rare, despite the fact that his race, the Anunnaki, had over three hundred gateways in operation on various planets throughout the universe. Savliel was one of three employees in the Synthetica Project, and they had two basic objectives: first, to await new Arrivals and ensure their synthetic bodies were compatible to their consciousness, and second, return the Arrivals to the exact coordinates from which they came. Evening had set in and Savliel was making some routine checks when a blue warning light blinked within the retina of his eye. He, along with each of his fellow Synthetica Conductors, had embedded warning systems so they were alerted to the initial status of a new Arrival. Despite the large size of Synthetica, it possessed only three conductors. Partly this was due to the rarity of new Arrivals, and partly it was a result of the sophisticated technical automation throughout Synthetica.

"System activation on Earth Three," Savliel spoke into an automated recording system."
Initial scan shows that it is a new Candidate. Assessment calculations indicate a match." Savliel was adjusting a slider control while he watched a holographic chart of a human body superimposed on a synthetic. As he adjusted the controls, the human body dissolved into the synthetic body. "I have a lock." A large monitor screen materialized and Savliel watched remotely as an automated wall opened up and ejected a rectangular enclosure that was eight feet long onto a waiting pedestal. The pedestal then moved to the centre of the room and lowered to a height of about three feet.
Savliel looked unconcernedly at the monitor. "Display LVS." A variety of technical information flooded the screen presented in colorful diagrams. "Display harmonic ratios." Instantly, two color spectrums were shown in comparison and small circles identified tiny discrepancies in the spectral data, which seemed of interest to Savliel. A three-dimensional scan of Hugelitod's physical body appeared on a new monitor that Savliel ordered, and he opened a glass-enclosed case and turned a knob, that created a distinct clicking sound. "Candidate markers are present. Escalation protocol invoked."

"Activating Medium now," Savliel said, remotely guiding an oval-shaped object to hover directly over the bone-white enclosure. "Medium and Candidate are in fusion mode… integration complete. Display Candidate." The monitor switched to a view looking down on the olive-green face of a synthetic Anunnaki. The ritual tattoo of a synthetic - four interlocking triangles - was displayed on the chest, forming a diamond-shaped center. Savliel watched as the eyes blinked open. "Zoom." The Camera zoomed into a close-up of the eyes as they searched around. A muted, solemn tone and a flashing orange light brought Savliel's attention away from the monitor. He flicked a button. "He's ready for inspection."
"Room?" a deep voice asked.
"He's in one-nine-five-one."
"Time sync?"
"Within two minutes."
"Anomalies?"
"None… other than the scan, as I reported."
"Go ahead and release him. We'll be down in five minutes."
Savliel pushed a button on his control panel. "Candidate released." Savliel turned back to the close-up view of the Candidate, and zoomed out. The tattoo for synthetics always reminded him of a headless body; it was an appropriate symbol for an abomination of his race. He watched as the candidate sat up and began looking over his new and stronger body. Savliel wondered what an odd feeling it would be to wake up in a human body. I'd sooner expire, he assured himself.

Yes, I have had several authors pointed out to me via "PM" and Emails that seem to have either have had some Deep Insider Information or "Intuitively" pulled this information from their "Higher Self" themselves.

The "Reality" of these programs and the details of some of this "Stuff" is stranger than Fiction! It is quite a bit more horrifying at times as well since You Experience it and have to deal with it in real time.

There seems to be even MORE "Insider Information" coming out in recent Science Fiction Movies recently. There has also been a lot of information on "Shadow Politics" emerging in these recent movies according to the report by David Wilcock I read that someone posted on Avalon.

It seems that not only the so called "Illuminati Types" are planting their "Black Magic Consciousness Seeds" through movies but some of the so called "White Hats" are making movies exposing the "Cabal". DW mentioned 2 movies I haven't seen "Iron Man 3" and "Captain America 2 Winder Soldier".

Thanks for the post and info about this book. It was interesting. Do you know what "Year" this was published?

[seeker/reader]

GoodETxSG,

I began a thread about, "Captain America 2, Winter Soldier," when it first came out, here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70242-Anyone-see-the-new-Captain-America-Winter-Soldier-Yet-NWO-reference-in-movie-spoiler-alert&p=819392&viewfull=1#post819392

The Winter Soldier is an MK Ultra/Super Soldier. At one point in the movie his handlers want to erase his current memories and some of his old memories that were starting to resurface, they do so by giving him electro-shock trauma.

The movie covers many other topics too, including AI, which I discuss in the thread.

Seeker/Reader

P. S. I plan on seeing the new movie, "Interstellar." I am curious to see what they might disclose in this one.

[Gemma13]

James Books? I don't get your reference... "James books are awesome by the way !!"



Thanks for the post and info about this book. It was interesting. Do you know what "Year" this was published?

Sorry GOODETxSG my bad, forgot to include the author: James Mahu. I have read all his novels and find them brimming with information suited to an incredibly vast range of individuals from all walks of life.

The Dohrman Prophecy was released in 2012 and printed by Planetwork Press but it can be read on-line at spiritstate.com.

[GoodETxSG]

GoodETxSG,

I began a thread about, "Captain America 2, Winter Soldier," when it first came out, here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70242-Anyone-see-the-new-Captain-America-Winter-Soldier-Yet-NWO-reference-in-movie-spoiler-alert&p=819392&viewfull=1#post819392

The Winter Soldier is an MK Ultra/Super Soldier. At one point in the movie his handlers want to erase his current memories and some of his old memories that were starting to resurface, they do so by giving him electro-shock trauma.

The movie covers many other topics too, including AI, which I discuss in the thread.

Seeker/Reader

P. S. I plan on seeing the new movie, "Interstellar." I am curious to see what they might disclose in this one.

Wow, Okay,
I have to watch this movie now! Thanks... Checking out Thread as well. Thanks for posting it.

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James Books? I don't get your reference... "James books are awesome by the way !!"



Thanks for the post and info about this book. It was interesting. Do you know what "Year" this was published?

Sorry GOODETxSG my bad, forgot to include the author: James Mahu. I have read all his novels and find them brimming with information suited to an incredibly vast range of individuals from all walks of life.

The Dohrman Prophecy was released in 2012 and printed by Planetwork Press but it can be read on-line at spiritstate.com.

Thank you much... :)

[Yetti]

I was talking about James Mahu, from : The Dhorman prophesy and Quantusum.

[GoodETxSG]

I was talking about James Mahu, from : The Dhorman prophesy and Quantusum.

I am going to have to make the time to look up some of the authors/researchers and their info that you and several other members and Jeffrey/Moderator have sent me.

I do not believe in coincidences and from what I hear there are a couple of authors out there (Just like some of the Movie Producers that have been "Read In") that I believe may be some serious "Insiders" or at least are having information provided to them by some "Insiders".

Thanks Yetti, seeker/reader and Gemma13 for the recent information posted here... :)

[Fellow Aspirant]

Hello again GoodET

Your energy in responding to posts in several ongoing threads is VERY impressive. You are certainly a huge boon to this whole forum. We are so fortunate to have you here to answer our questions.

So. Some straightforward questions. I think that this is the correct thread for these. :p

Can you comment, please, on the reports of an undersea base just offshore from Malibu? (I'm sure you know the one I'm referring to!)

Additionally, just WHAT is under the Denver Int'l Airport? What is its purpose and who inhabits/controls it?

Thanks in advance!

Brian

[GoodETxSG]

Hello again GoodET

Your energy in responding to posts in several ongoing threads is VERY impressive. You are certainly a huge boon to this whole forum. We are so fortunate to have you here to answer our questions.

So. Some straightforward questions. I think that this is the correct thread for these. :p

Can you comment, please, on the reports of an undersea base just offshore from Malibu? (I'm sure you know the one I'm referring to!)

Additionally, just WHAT is under the Denver Int'l Airport? What is its purpose and who inhabits/controls it?

Thanks in advance!

Brian

Thank you Brian, I will also transfer this to the Q&A Thread, its a good one.
I had read and believe the documents were true that under Denver Airport was a Huge Base that was for Continuity Of Government in case of an extreme Emergency or Breakdown of Civil Cohesion etc...

There is basically not only structures and support staff facilities for all 3 branches of government and the Military (Mini DOD/Pentagon) But there is also a City to provide aid and comfort to all of the Military, Politicians, Law Makers and Support and Defence Staff's Families. This is supposed to be a legitimate "National Security Asset" and those working at the Air Port that are "In the know" take their oath of secrecy very seriously (As well as their promised place in the protected area for their families). What REALLY goes on there I will leave up to ALL of our imaginations. I can tell you for CERTAIN that there is a subterranean super sonic shuttle system that links this base with other DUMB's across the "GLOBE".

The Navy perfected "Under Sea Bases" decades ago (They reverse engineered some ideas of other beings that have maintained bases underwater for thousands of years.. There are MANY bases of various sizes across the Oceans on the Planet... Mostly Not Ours.
Some are Joint Human/Non Human bases and many are ancient and highly secretive bases of MANY different races of beings (Not just the Reptilians etc...).

The one off of Malibu is one that I know both the Navy and even Elements of the Coast Guard Use. I was not privy to what went on at each of the bases. I did not have a "Need to Know". There were a couple that were written about such as the Denver Airport that had unredacted information (Or cover stories, which ever you choose to believe).

I was sent around to a couple of underwater bases that were pretty cool (I wasn't normally told where I was) and some underground bases across the Globe (Both Human Only, Alien Only and Join/Human Facilities). I was usually there for a meeting or technical reason and departed the same day. We were escorted by local security and kept away from certain areas. I would not be able to tell you what was going on accept for the technology in some of the facilities were related to Manufacturing Drives for the Newer Craft from the "Dark Fleet" and some of the smaller one/two manned craft that we catch glimpses of in the skies all of the time.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Hi GoodEt

I've come to ask for your help in identifying a UFO that Jeremy Hall, a neighbour (and friend) of mine witnessed. I have been studying UFO videos and pictures for many years and this sighting has me completely stumped. I can find nothing online to match the description, so I thought that perhaps you might be up to the challenge. :cool:

The following description is an excerpt from the book "Weep for Africa", (published by Helion & Co. Ltd, 2014) subtitled 'A Rhodesian Light Infantry Paratrooper's Farewell to Innocence', by Jeremy Hall. It's a very engrossing read.

The sighting happened in the early 1970s during the Rhodesian Bush War, when Hall and three men in his patrol made camp in the bush on the banks of the Zambezi River.

Excerpt:

"I noticed the guys were looking across the vast expanse of the Zambezi, not directly north to the Zambian side directly opposite us but at a slight angle to the northeast over that portion of the Zambian bank. There, stationary, at an estimated distance of just over a kilometre away a strange shape hovered. It was shaped like an upside-down teardrop, the top a glimmering luminous bright blue, then lightening to a shimmering yellow across the main cylinder of the tear-drop shaped body, and ending in a tail glowing from red to a white tip. It just hovered. How big? It was difficult to judge at that distance. ‘It’ was definitely hovering over the Zambian bank, so maybe it was twenty-five to thirty metres in height for the cylindrical portion, and half of that in width. The tail was another twenty-five metres in length. ‘It’ just sat there, five to six hundred metres above Zambian soil, pasted to the night sky, glowing and blazing with colours that were radiant, almost pure. The tail did not move, and the coruscating (flashing, sparkling) pattern moving up and down, overlapping, difficult to explain.

The shape, ‘It’, never moved, never shifted even slightly, up or down, left or right, backwards or forwards; it just glowed and shimmered like a disco globe. If it made a noise we did not hear it. We watched spellbound. No thought was made of making radio contact via our links to HQ to report this. We were hypnotized by the sight. We asked the guards when they had seen ‘It’. They said that the sky had been clear – they knew this because they had been standing together looking at the stars – and then suddenly the shape was there, in an instant it seemed.

‘It’ sat in the sky and another twenty minutes passed. Then, without warning, and maintaining its vertical stance and shape, ‘It’ moved at an unbelievable speed through the night sky, at an approximate forty-five degree angle across and over the Zambezi River towards the eastern portion of the heavens. ‘It’ did not accelerate from standing still to building up speed; ‘It’ went from standing still to this blinding speed at once, within a fraction of a second, as fast as we could comprehend, as quickly as we could move our heads from left to right. There was not even time to shift our bodies to follow the flight. ‘It’ did not streak, leave a trail of any kind, did not blur, (and made) no sound at all as ‘It’ covered fifty, a hundred and more kilometres across, away, and then what? Thousands of kilometres up into the black vault of the star-studded heavens in less than three seconds, until ‘It’ was just a star – or so it seemed – and then ‘It’ just blinked away. We knew, just knew that mankind – the Americans, the Russians – that nobody had that kind of technology. Nobody on earth did.

There was dead silence from us. Then a collective our-gasp of air – we had unknowingly been holding our collective breath for the time ‘It’ moved, then some more – followed by an encore of ‘cor bloimeys’, ‘foks’, jirres’, ‘fooking sideways’, jissuses and so forth.

What have we just seen? It made me feel pitiful sitting on that riverbank. What did we know, really?

The sarge put the sighting in his sitrep to HQ at Vic Falls early the next morning. Sunray asked him what we had been smoking.

The next night at five past ten ‘It’ was back, at the exact same time and same position over Zambia, as far as we could tell. For twenty minutes the UFO sat glued to the sky, five hundred metres above the ground, and then, at a staggering speed again, it followed the same movement and direction as it had done the previous night. Our sitrep the next morning made no mention of the UFO this time. The UFO never appeared again to our view while we were on that Zambezi patrol."



Jeremy tells me that there is no question in his mind but that the UFO had had his patrol of four men under direct observation; that they were being studied. Of interest is the fact that earlier that day, in the jungle, his patrol had been attacked by a large troop (about 50-60) of baboons, and at close range, had driven them off, killing about a dozen large males in the battle. All of the humans were shaken by the strange, violent experience. Whether this incident has some bearing on the appearance of the shimmering alien 'teardrop' is open to speculation.

So, GoodET, can you help us identify the beings flying this amazing craft?

Yours hopefully,

Brian

[GoodETxSG]

Hi GoodEt

I've come to ask for your help in identifying a UFO that Jeremy Hall, a neighbour (and friend) of mine witnessed. I have been studying UFO videos and pictures for many years and this sighting has me completely stumped. I can find nothing online to match the description, so I thought that perhaps you might be up to the challenge. :cool:

The following description is an excerpt from the book "Weep for Africa", (published by Helion & Co. Ltd, 2014) subtitled 'A Rhodesian Light Infantry Paratrooper's Farewell to Innocence', by Jeremy Hall. It's a very engrossing read.

The sighting happened in the early 1970s during the Rhodesian Bush War, when Hall and three men in his patrol made camp in the bush on the banks of the Zambezi River.

Excerpt:

"I noticed the guys were looking across the vast expanse of the Zambezi, not directly north to the Zambian side directly opposite us but at a slight angle to the northeast over that portion of the Zambian bank. There, stationary, at an estimated distance of just over a kilometre away a strange shape hovered. It was shaped like an upside-down teardrop, the top a glimmering luminous bright blue, then lightening to a shimmering yellow across the main cylinder of the tear-drop shaped body, and ending in a tail glowing from red to a white tip. It just hovered. How big? It was difficult to judge at that distance. ‘It’ was definitely hovering over the Zambian bank, so maybe it was twenty-five to thirty metres in height for the cylindrical portion, and half of that in width. The tail was another twenty-five metres in length. ‘It’ just sat there, five to six hundred metres above Zambian soil, pasted to the night sky, glowing and blazing with colours that were radiant, almost pure. The tail did not move, and the coruscating (flashing, sparkling) pattern moving up and down, overlapping, difficult to explain.

The shape, ‘It’, never moved, never shifted even slightly, up or down, left or right, backwards or forwards; it just glowed and shimmered like a disco globe. If it made a noise we did not hear it. We watched spellbound. No thought was made of making radio contact via our links to HQ to report this. We were hypnotized by the sight. We asked the guards when they had seen ‘It’. They said that the sky had been clear – they knew this because they had been standing together looking at the stars – and then suddenly the shape was there, in an instant it seemed.

‘It’ sat in the sky and another twenty minutes passed. Then, without warning, and maintaining its vertical stance and shape, ‘It’ moved at an unbelievable speed through the night sky, at an approximate forty-five degree angle across and over the Zambezi River towards the eastern portion of the heavens. ‘It’ did not accelerate from standing still to building up speed; ‘It’ went from standing still to this blinding speed at once, within a fraction of a second, as fast as we could comprehend, as quickly as we could move our heads from left to right. There was not even time to shift our bodies to follow the flight. ‘It’ did not streak, leave a trail of any kind, did not blur, (and made) no sound at all as ‘It’ covered fifty, a hundred and more kilometres across, away, and then what? Thousands of kilometres up into the black vault of the star-studded heavens in less than three seconds, until ‘It’ was just a star – or so it seemed – and then ‘It’ just blinked away. We knew, just knew that mankind – the Americans, the Russians – that nobody had that kind of technology. Nobody on earth did.

There was dead silence from us. Then a collective our-gasp of air – we had unknowingly been holding our collective breath for the time ‘It’ moved, then some more – followed by an encore of ‘cor bloimeys’, ‘foks’, jirres’, ‘fooking sideways’, jissuses and so forth.

What have we just seen? It made me feel pitiful sitting on that riverbank. What did we know, really?

The sarge put the sighting in his sitrep to HQ at Vic Falls early the next morning. Sunray asked him what we had been smoking.

The next night at five past ten ‘It’ was back, at the exact same time and same position over Zambia, as far as we could tell. For twenty minutes the UFO sat glued to the sky, five hundred metres above the ground, and then, at a staggering speed again, it followed the same movement and direction as it had done the previous night. Our sitrep the next morning made no mention of the UFO this time. The UFO never appeared again to our view while we were on that Zambezi patrol."



Jeremy tells me that there is no question in his mind but that the UFO had had his patrol of four men under direct observation; that they were being studied. Of interest is the fact that earlier that day, in the jungle, his patrol had been attacked by a large troop (about 50-60) of baboons, and at close range, had driven them off, killing about a dozen large males in the battle. All of the humans were shaken by the strange, violent experience. Whether this incident has some bearing on the appearance of the shimmering alien 'teardrop' is open to speculation.

So, GoodET, can you help us identify the beings flying this amazing craft?

Yours hopefully,

Brian

This is an extremely interesting story. I can tell you I have heard similar stories about Baboon aggression and driving people out of their territory. They were lucky they were well armed.

I am sorry but there are a number of beings that are extremely active and interested in Africa.

I have had a wide range of experiences but do not want to set myself up as an expert on all topics UFO or Alien related. I was read in and experienced only a portion of what is going on "Out There" and "Down Here"... It is amazing the number of species visiting this planet both with and without permission of Us and those claiming dominion over this local Star Cluster...

I wish I had an answer for you. Thank you for telling this interesting account and asking though.
:)

[Fellow Aspirant]

Thanks for looking, GoodET. I was hopeful, but I guess if even you are unfamiliar with this type of craft then it must be even more rare than I thought.

Which leads me to thinking that whoever "they" are, they are not being seen by too many other humans because their "interests" are restricted to a fairly small patch of the planet, i.e. South Africa.

Perhaps they are beings (Annunaki?) that are still interested in the gold there.

At any rate, I'm now going to post this on the general forum. Maybe someone there will be able to identify it.

Namaste!

Brian

[GoodETxSG]

I saw this video on another thread,

There has been a lot of speculation of what may have occured... I guess I will add to it,

1. Example of "Electric Universe" as Comet Flies by?
2. Meteor or Comet Tail Debris Strike?
3. Escalation in hostilities in "Stealth Civil War" between various "Secret Space Programs" or "Break Away Civilizations and Off World Beings doing battle and taking out colonies?"...
4. Aurora Borealis on a planet that is supposed to have a very weak magnetic field?
5. ? :confused: ?

Though Mars can act as a giant "Capacitor" that builds up ESD/Static Electricity over an amount of time/events (And discharges electricity towards its moons or passing cosmic bodies).

This is "Said to be from" the combinations of various natural phenomenon such as "Solar Winds", build up effects of the "Many Localized" and "Major Global Sand Storms" which have extremely dramatic "Visible Static Lightening" at times etc... But again, that is more speculation on my part 100%.


Edit-Disturbing possible updates if incoming information is true-

INCREDIBLE EXPLOSION ON MARS!!
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Published on Oct 19, 2014

COMET SIDING SPRING UPDATE. Dr.Fritz Helmut Hemmerich made this video from 1200-meters at Tenerife in the Canary Islands showing Comet Siding Spring immediately after its Mars encounter.

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As I have stated on this Thread and the Q and A Thread where the Part 1 Interview was Posted...

And Today Posted along with a new Article entitled; "Mystery of the 'spooky' pattern in the universe: Scientists find that supermassive black holes are ALIGNED" on my old Thread: U.S. Has 8 Cigar Shaped UFOs In Space Fleet Used For “Solar Warden,” Program To Protect Solar System - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56532-U.S.-Has-8-Cigar-Shaped-UFOs-In-Space-Fleet-Used-For---Solar-Warden----Program-To-Protect-Solar-System&p=905680&viewfull=1#post905680

Main Stream Science believes they have discovered something big here about "Black Holes" but do not understand the true magnitude of what they are looking at...

"The sooner they accept the "Models" of the "Torsion Field" and "Plasma Field" (Or "Electric Universe") UNIVERSE MODELS the SOONER They will begin to make some real breakthroughs and begin to catch up with the "Black Ops Science Models".

However the Main Stream Science Establishment are hanging on to the ideology of their old prophets like any fundamentalists of "Other Religions". Which Main Stream Science is very much one despite their open hatred of Religion..."

I do not agree with all of the info in the video's below... But they are very close and on the right track.

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This very interesting Article still shows how even "Alternative Media" likes to jump to "What we know"... Speculating "Nuclear Wars On Mars" is at least a step in the direction of looking deeper into what occurred on that Planet.

Were Ancient Martians Murdered by Nuclear Bomb-Dropping Aliens? An Investigation

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/were-ancient-martians-murdered-by-nuclear-bomb-dropping-aliens-an-investigation

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JASON KOEBLER
STAFF WRITER
November 20, 2014 // 01:40 PM EST
As far as we can tell, Mars is a desolate-looking desert, with no obvious life. Sure, there may still be microbes there, but I think it's safe to say that there is not an advanced civilization living on the Red Planet. But was it always that way? Did Mars once host a bustling civilization, one that perhaps was capable of nuclear warfare? Let's check in with some conspiracy theorists to find out.

I'm going to let Andrew, a guy who runs the UFO Sightings Cape Town YouTube page, set the scene.

"There are literally hundreds of building ruins in a few of NASA's panoramic images. What has happened on Mars? Was it a Nuclear WAR, or perhaps Asteroid hits? The fact of the matter is, that there are many pockets of living humanoids all over Mars," he wrote on a YouTube video showcasing some of these "building ruins."

Let's just put this out there. This is one of the fringiest of fringe conspiracy theories out there. Andrew is probably just a wee bit off his rocker, but he didn't randomly make up the idea that there was civilization on Mars and that it could have died in a nuclear WAR.

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A separate conspiracy theorist believes the Martian holocaust and the Ark of the Covenant are related. Image: ​Arkcode.com
For that, let’s take a look at an excerpt from Did Spacemen Colonize the Earth?, a book published by Robin Collyns in 1976. Earlier in the following passage, Collyns argues that there certainly were nuclear explosions on Mars.

"It is difficult to imagine a nuclear explosion on Mars that was not deliberately caused," Collyns writes. "It is very likely that the explosion was made for some constructional purpose. Thus, the [nuclear observations] can serve as one of the proofs in the favor of existence of rational life on mars."

Pseudoscience and wild conjecture are fun, but John Brandenburg, a plasma physicist who got his degree from UC Davis and who has seemingly had a relatively normal, distinguished career for a scientist, has staked his reputation on his theory that Martian life was, perhaps purposefully, destroyed with nukes.

“Was Mars murdered?” he muses in a book about the theory.

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In an oddly disconcerting interview with "Supreme Master Television," a thoroughly bizarre station run by the Supreme Master Ching Hai International Association cult, Brandenburg notes that Mars had two ancient humanoid civilizations, called Cydonia and Utopia, which had a level of technology similar to that of the ancient Egyptians.

What happened to those Martians? Nukes, he says.

"Two great disasters happened on Mars," he told Supreme Master TV, pointing to Utopia on a map. "One here, and then an asteroid impact happened here, and Cydonia was right in between them. That's puzzling. Why would so many bad things happen in one area of mars that just so happened to have archaeology on it?"

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That was back in 2011. Since then, Brandenburg has decided that both disasters were nukes, and possibly “natural” nuclear explosions that could have been caused by some cosmic weirdness like an asteroid hitting radioactive material or something like that. Today, however, he has upped the ante.

This weekend, he's going to present new research at a meeting of the American Physical Society that he says proves that there were indeed nuclear explosions on Mars and that they are consistent with nuclear bomb "airbursts," meaning that there's no possible way these were natural. He said in a statement emailed to me that the evidence he's found is "consistent with mixed fusion-fission explosions."

It's worth noting ​that the other sessions at the meeting appear to have well-regarded university researchers from all around the world presenting experimental particle physics results and things of that nature, so I have to say that Brandenburg's research (which certainly does not appear to be peer-reviewed) appearing alongside that is pretty weird.

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Brandenburg's theory about where the explosions happened. Image: ​ Journal of Cosmology and Astroparticle Physics
Here's his case, set to be published in the Journal of Cosmology and Astrophysics, a journal that just published a study about the Big Bang being a hologram:

"The high concentration of Xenon-129 atmosphere, the evidence from Krypton-80 and the detected pattern of excess abundance of Uranium and Thorium on Mars surface, relative to Mars meteorites, first seen by the Russians and now confirmed by the Mars Odyssey Spacecraft Gamma Ray Spectrometer, mean that the surface of Mars was apparently the site of massive radiological events, which created large amounts of signature isotopes and covered the surface with a thin layer of radioactive debris enriched in certain elements relative to its subsurface rocks. This pattern of phenomenon can be explained as due to two large anomalous nuclear explosions on Mars in the past."

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So, there's the theory. Reading that, it’s possible, until you get to the last line, to think that hey, here’s a scientist who thinks something weird happened on Mars—the idea of there being a naturally occurring nuclear explosion on a planet that has radioactive elements on it hasn’t been completely ruled out by NASA, after all.

But then, well, he is presenting published, quasi-scientific research suggesting that these were anomalous and not natural. If that’s not clear enough, maybe the description and title of his upcoming book Death on Mars: The Discovery of a Planetary Nuclear Massacre will drive it home.

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Or we can just read the conclusion to his paper, a preprint version of which he shared with me.

“Given the large amount of nuclear isotopes in Mars atmosphere resembling those from hydrogen bomb tests on Earth, Mars may present an example of civilization wiped out by a nuclear attack from space,” he wrote.

“It is possible the Fermi Paradox means that our interstellar neighborhood contains forces hostile to young, noisy, civilizations such as ourselves," he added. "Such hostile forces could range from things as alien as AI (Artificial Intelligence) ‘with a grudge’ against flesh and blood, as in the movie Terminator, all the way to things as sadly familiar to us as a mindless humanoid bureaucrat like Governor Tarkin in Star Wars, eager to destroy planet Alderann as an example to other worlds.”

It is of course worth noting that no high profile scientists have given any credence at all to this theory.

To gauge whether Brandenburg’s thoughts have gained any traction with conspiracy theorists, I hunted around for their reactions to his earlier work. Here’s what I came across:

Arkcode.com:

"Having seen the evidence presented by Dr. Brandenburg, I feel certain that we need to actively plan for a possible defense against whoever perpetrated the assault on Mars. In fact, as U.S. Space Command has access to all the data that he (and this family) have, as well as all the other pertinent data that exists out there, I'd be amazed to learn that our preparations have not been underway for a very long time." ​
Ross Holcomb, Mysterious Universe comment:

"There are other possibilities as well. Consider a very high tech civilization where a few folks mis-applied high energy technology and it got out of hand, causing a sever explosion and catastrophe a couple of million years ago. Perhaps a similar thing occurred on earth about 13,000 ya resulting in a cataclysmic event sinking Atlantis and energetically causing the Bermuda Triangle (and other anomalies) to activate. It may not have been "nuclear" and may not have been used in warfare."
Mercurio, Above Top Secret Forums:

"I think if it was a weapon, it was something much more powerful than nuclear bombs. Something more advanced than what we have now."

Shorty, Above Top Secret Forums:

“I believe that after a nuclear war broke out on Mars. The surviving Martian race emigrated to the Earth, building the Pyramids and Sphinx to represent the features on mars so that when we were intelligent enough we might discover that there was once a thriving powerful E.T race on mars.”
So, there you have it. Were ancient Martians blown up by other aliens? Almost certainly not, but if we are similarly destroyed, at least one dude will be able to say “told you so.”

[Baby Steps]

Wow. Can these AIs mess with us psychically? Any tips for indentifying them? Many thanks

[GoodETxSG]

ET’s & Shadow Governments – What Else Does This Astronaut Know?
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/11/26/ets-shadow-governments-what-else-does-astronaut-know/

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Apollo 17 RocketBuck Rogers, Staff
Waking Times

What would happen if the government came out and acknowledged that extra-terrestrials are operating here on planet Earth? Would society break down and come to a screeching halt overnight, or would things pretty much just carry on, business as usual, with everyone showing up for work on time the day after the announcement?

What would happen to our so-called democracy if the government publicly admitted that the military had fallen under the control of an unaccountable shadowy cabal, who possesses advanced alien technologies? Would people still turn out to vote?

In a recent interview, Apollo 14 astronaut and founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Dr. Edgar Mitchell again gave his remarks on these topics, something he has been doing publicly for a number of years now. He has participated in many interviews and documentaries, such as the widely-viewed film, Sirius (Dr. Steven Greer, 2013), about the existence and reality of extra-terrestrials and secret energy and propulsion systems.

Also the author of a number of fascinating books, including The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut’s Journey Through the Material and Mystical Worlds, Dr. Mitchell is a pioneer in the scientific exploration of consciousness, and his words have impact.

He states with confidence that aliens are real and are here on Earth, that their propulsion and energy technologies are also here and would be available to us, but that a cabal, or shadow government, appears to have control over the military. Furthermore, the extra-terrestrials here appear to be concerned with the survival of the human race, not its destruction. Dr. Mitchell comments, pointing to events during the cold war where nuclear missiles failed to fire as a result of alien intervention:

“I haven’t had personal interaction with aliens, however, I know all of the research people, on a first name basis, both in the Unites States and Europe, South America, as a matter of fact in all of the Western world. I know, am on a first name basis with, all of the investigators that are working in this area…. As far as I can tell, the ones [aliens] that I have seen the most of and know the most about seem to be trying to help us, not harm us or hinder us.” – Dr. Edgar Mitchell

His experience on the Apollo 14 lunar mission in 1971, during which he became the sixth person to walk on the moon’s surface, was of deep spiritual significance to him, changing the course of his life and compelling him to establish one of the world’s leading foundations for research on human consciousness.

Yet, when asked about the existence of a shadow government that has access to the military and advanced technologies, he replies:

“I can’t tell you much about it, except that I agree with you… there seems to be a cabal that knows more about some of this than a lot of us do. Now, I have a little bit of knowledge into it, but not a lot, and that we think our government has people that know all the answers but that’s not necessarily true, and we’re just going to have to wait and see how that all comes out… I’m well aware of the behind-the-scenes work that’s going on, I just can’t put it into a formalized statement of any kind.” -Dr. Edgar Mitchell

When he speaks about the state of the world, he displays considerable reverence for the environment. He has dedicated his recent years to the study and advocacy of sustainability, looking for progress in the fields of propulsion and zero-point energy production, which he says are the means by which alien races are able to visit planet Earth.

Take a listen to the recent interview with Dr. Mitchell here:

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Conclusion

Now in his eighties, Dr. Mitchell’s personal accomplishments and contributions to science will, without question, live on beyond his lifetime, however, his comments on these issues are rather puzzling. How do we connect the dots between what we see happening in our world and what people like Dr. Mitchell say is happening behind the curtains of this illusion?

The information and available opinions on ETs and alien technologies are always left incomplete in similar ways, introducing doubt and offering no concrete proof.

We live in interesting times, and everything is being questioned. For every old cultural “truth”, there are a handful of theories that blow apart any official version of events. Even something as impactful as the lunar landings of the late 60’s and 70’s aren’t immune to skepticism, and some have assembled compelling opinions that the moon landings were staged, theatrical events.

The world is hungry for truth right now, but truth seems to become ever more elusive and polymorphic.

Many would like to know the whole story about extra-terrestrials, alien propulsion technologies, shadow governments, and so much more. So, when a renowned astronaut and pioneer of human consciousness studies says with confidence that extra-terrestrials are already here on planet Earth, and that the military is under the control of a secret shadow government, how does this affect your worldview?

About the Author

Buck Rogers is the earth bound incarnation of that familiar part of our timeless cosmic selves, the rebel within. He is a surfer of ideals and meditates often on the promise of happiness in a world battered by the angry seas of human thoughtlessness. He is a staff writer for WakingTimes.com.

Sources:

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(14)01212-3

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29939672

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So, are the Theoretical and Main Stream Scientists beginning to see the connections here? No? Not yet? Come on, open your minds and broaden your consciousness. It is time for some of you to make these breakthroughs...

Within some of this information are the secrets of Zero Point Energy and the Unification of Old Paradigm Scientific "Beliefs" that will show how very possible travel among the stars is and how important individual and mass consciousness (And its interaction with all states of vibrations that make up the Full Spectrum of Energy, Matter and even Thought) is to the process.

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Black Whole Dynamics: The Foundation of our Fractal-Holographic Universe
Alternative ScienceAmazing Universeby Zen Gardner - May 10, 20141 669
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Brandon West, Contributor
Waking Times

If I had to explain Nassim Haramein’s work and try to describe his Holofractographic Universe Theory (HFU) to a person who had never heard of it before, or who was questioning it’s validity, I would begin with the scaling law for organized matter.

This scaling law to me is as close to irrefutable evidence that you can get in science, confirming Nassim’s proposition of a fractal and holographic universe as a result of fundamental structure and dynamics of the vacuum (the space-time manifold, which we will explore in detail). This is because the data itself – not the theory – clearly demonstrates the relationship between all spheres at all scalar resolutions of the universe.

This knowledge is important because it helps us to understand our relationship to all scales of the universe. Moreover, it shows clearly how we are fractal (and holographic) expressions of the whole, and may even provide insight into the origin of consciousness in the universe.

This knowledge is essential for all people to know because it describes, in scientific terms, how we are connected with everything else in the universe, and how we are truly inseparable from the field of all possibility and are infinite, energetic, and eternal spiritual beings.

Scalar Dimensions of Reality

One important aspect of reality that we have to understand and shift our perspective on in order to comprehend reality more completely, is the nature of dimensions. This shift is not only important in understanding the HFU model, it is also an essential step in understanding the foundation of creation.

It was clear to Haramein early on that the accepted consensus paradigm of dimensions in geometry where flawed. They are:

Dimension 0: is a point in space-time with no volume, therefore it doesn’t exist.
Dimension 1: is a line with length but no width which doesn’t exist.
Dimension 2: is a plane with length and width but which doesn’t exist.
Dimension 3: has length, width, and height, and thus it exists.
(The fourth dimension would be time, but as we explored in The Unified Field and the Illusion of Time, it is probable that time does not exist at all.)

Immediately Nassim had issues with this perception of dimension. For the simple reason that the idea of getting existence out of three hypothetical dimension which do not exist and which have never been observed in reality, moreover which are impossible to even imagine, simply defies all logical reasoning.

And the thing is, this is what physics is based on, and this is what our understanding of the universe is based on.

What Haramein is proposing in the Holofractographic Universe (HFU) is a shift in perspective from believing that creation is based off of things that do not exist, to considering that reality is based off of geometry that we see throughout the universe: the sphere.

Instead of non-existent dimension the HFU model proposes that the universe is made up of scalar dimension of the sphere in all sizes and in all scales of the universe, from infinitely large to infinitely small, and that they are embedded within one another. This is something that we can observe clearly at all scales, from Planck’s distances, to atoms, to cells, to stars and planets. So what if we shift our perspective and look at reality as a bunch of spheres, some of which conglomerate to form other objects from trees, to stars, to you and I?

This shift was actually the foundational insight which led Haramein to the development of the HFU model, which we will show clearly later on. So if the universe expresses itself in scalar divisions of the sphere, then what is the relationship between the spheres? Could that possibly provide us with some insight into the fundamental structure of the universe, and the fundamental principle of division, and thus, of creation?

The Scaling Law for Organized Matter

What Nassim Haramein and Elizabeth Rauscher did in order to scientifically verify this conclusion about the nature of reality was gather known data on objects of all sizes within the universe, and graph them according to their frequency, and their radius.

The point of this was to see if there was any relationship between objects at all scales in the universe, and the results were astonishing.

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As you can see, all objects in the universe line up almost perfectly. This is phenomenal especially considering the scales which were included: all the way from the smallest energetic oscillation in the universe, a Planck’s link (BB), to our Sun (S), all the way to the largest known object in the universe, the universe itself (U). Other points graphed were galaxies (G1 & G2).

It is interesting to note that in the universe, the difference in scale between the smallest oscillation of energy the universe does, the Planck’s distance (BB), and the atom (A), is greater than the difference between an atom and the sun. (Obviously the Sun is pretty huge from our perspective, and the atom is literally invisible, but it is phenomenal to consider, and difficult to imagine something so small that it makes the atom look larger than the Sun!)

Another point of interest is that relationship between the differences in scale indicate that in some cases the universe is using the phi ration (? = 1 : 1.618), also known as the golden mean, in order to divide itself.

From this graph we can deduce three things with relative certainty:

1. There is an underlying order in the universe. If the universe was random and chaotic, as it was assumed to be, then these macro-cosmic and micro-cosmic objects should be scattered randomly throughout the graph and we would no longer be drawing any more straight lines and considering the HFU model, but instead be playing connect the dots. But because there is an obvious direct relationship, we must consider Haramein’s conclusion, or at very least, his line of reasoning.
2.There is a fundamental principle of division. On top of there being order in the universe, this graph also suggests that there is a principle of division which the universe uses to create on all scales, which defines not only the relationship of objects at that scale, but its relationship with objects on all scales. This is highly suggestive of the fractal nature of the universe, because if there is order in the universe, as the evidence proves conclusively, and if there is a relationship between objects at all scales, this also indicates a fractal pattern and a potential holographic relationship between scales (which we will get into later on). For now, let us accept that the evidence suggests that the universe seems to divide itself in a similar pattern, and creates with a resonant structure or pattern on all scales, else there would be no relationship between all scales.
3.Lastly, all objects on all scales of the universe are black holes. As absolutely astounding, impossible, and mind-boggling as this conclusion may at first seem, the universe itself is suggesting it through this evidence which has been gathered. Specifically because the relationship between frequency vs. radius of every sphere that falls on that line, obeys the Schwarzschild Condition for a black hole, and thus is of the right mass and radius to be a black hole. This is highly suggestive that everything in the universe, all spheres at all scales, are actually black holes.
How is it possible that all spheres are black holes? Wouldn’t that mean that everything in the universe would be collapsing in on itself and sucking in all matter until the universe itself imploded or something? You might have asked that which is a completely natural and logical question, moreover, it is a good question. But to answer that we need to ask ourselves another question first:

What exactly is a black hole?

Singularity and Einstein’s Field Equations

Before Einstein came on to the scene and revolutionized physics in one year as a result of a “condensed burst of Genius”, our world was described by Newtonian Mechanics which basically observed the universe as a great big machine where objects exerted forces on one another.

Fundamental to Newton’s ideas of the universe was the concept of absolute space and time, meaning that a minute and a meter here on Earth would be the same as a minute or a meter anywhere in the universe, and that a minute and a meter were always the same length regardless of the circumstances.

Yet this all began to change during the 19th century beginning with the new theory of electromagnetism which was advanced most by a Scottish scientist named James Clerk Maxwell. In his work with electromagnetism he postulated and provided evidence that the universe was fields of energy produced by magnetism and electricity.

“In the late 19th century there were two sets of equations (“theories”) being used in physics, for different phenomena. These were Newton’s 17th century equations for how forces cause objects to change their motion (accelerate) and the 19th century equations that govern electricity, magnetism and light, whose complete form was first given by Maxwell, following on the work of Faraday, Ampere, and many others.” (Matt Strassler)

An electrical field produced an active continuum of charged, distorted space around an electrically charged object, and a magnetic field is the field produced around a magnet. This provided a fundamental shift in the Newtonian world view because the electromagnetic forces did not instantly propagate through space like Newton’s forces, but traveled at a specific speed.

This marked another major shift from the mechanistic view of the universe, to one a little less material where energetic fields began to describe objects, instead of forces simply acting on them. In the words of Einstein:

“It is not the charges nor the particles, but the field in the space between the charges and particles, that is essential for the description of physical phenomena.”

It was this new idea of fields which undoubtedly had an influence on Einstein which led him to the discovery that time and space are unified into a continuum known as the space-time continuum which permeates all space in the universe. Einstein’s space-time continuum thereby also overthrew Newton’s ideas of absolute space and time.

All in all, not a good time for Newton. And as Einstein was later to remark, “Newton, forgive me.”

In this understanding of the space-time continuum, matter is not acted upon by forces which propagate themselves instantaneously through space, but is instead influenced by a fundamental field (the space-time manifold) whose topology was shown in Einstein’s field equations to warp in the presence of matter much like if you were to place an infinitely heavy object onto the surface of an indestructible trampoline, the surface would warp and create a curvature of the space-time continuum.

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It is this understanding of reality which Haramein’s Holofractographic model of the universe is based on. In many ways his work is the extension of Einstein’s and he specifically focuses on the topology of the space-time continuum (the structure of the fabric of space-time/the vacuum) and also on the dynamics involved in the curvature of space-time.

According to Einstein’s model this was the source of gravity in the universe: a gravity well which attracts other objects towards it due to the curvature of the fabric of space-time, and Einstein wrote some equations describing this field and they became known as Einstein’s field equations.

These are some of the most complex mathematical equations to date, and at the time he published them he hadn’t actually solved them but published them in the hopes that someone would find a solution, someday. That someone turned out to be the German physicist and astronomer Karl Schwarzschild, who solved them while fighting in a war no less.

When Karl Schwarzschild solved Einstein’s field equations (field as in the field of space-time), the solution predicted a point within the space-time continuum which collapses towards infinite density. This became known as a singularity. The singularity is described by an extreme curvature towards this point of infinite density, and the presence of infinite density within the structure of space-time which produces this extreme curvature implies that all other objects are attracted to it because of it’s extreme gravity. Therefore the singularity is better known by another name: a black hole.

Part of the solution to Einstein’s Field Equations which describe the fundamental nature of reality is a black hole.

Moreover, Einstein’s field equations are still used today to describe the motions of planets and such to a high degree of accuracy, so they definitely work, but they deal only with the aspect of Einsteins field equations which describe flat space, i.e. very minimal curvature in the vacuum structure which is attributed as the cause of gravity.

Thus the Equations work and are highly accurate, but only a part of the equations are being used or even acknowledged while the other aspect of the equations which predict singularity are more or less shoved under the rug.

With that being said, a singularity is the result of an extreme curvature within space-time which is something that is not easily dealt with in physics or mathematics, so it wasn’t.

“Such a curvature is theorized to produce zero volume with infinite density at it’s core, a phenomenon known as “singularity”. In a singularity the known laws of physics break down as the normal rules of our familiar three-dimensional space no longer holds. Here mathematical quantities used to measure Gravity increase to infinity, making concrete physics difficult to formulate. It’s generally understood that explaining physics under these conditions requires an understanding in which all the forces (of Gravity, Electromagnetic, Strong and Weak force) are unified. And this is indeed the main problem of unification at this time…” (The Fractal-Holographic Universe by Andreas Bjerve)

Which is exactly what Haramein’s Holofractographic model does.

Accounting For Spin (GoodETxSG: AKA "Torsion")

When Einstein’s field equations were solved they did not account for spin or rotation. We live in a universe where everything is spinning. Planets, stars, galaxies, super-clusters of galaxies; it is all spinning. But when Karl Schwarzschild first solved Einstein’s field equations he did not account for spin (which is forgivable considering he was literally fighting in a war at the time).

Then when Schwarzschild’s solution was revised by Ezra Newman and Roy Kerr (creating the Kerr-Newman solution) they accounted for spin, but only partially. As Nassim Haramein explains:

“Current Einstein’s field equations do not account for torque. What they did is that they eliminated torque by attaching the observer to the rotating object [field], so that they wouldn’t have to deal with Coriolis effect and Torque. Well if you do that you are going to end up with 98% of the mass of the universe missing, which is exactly what occurs in current cosmology. But instead of revising their approach to energy and torque and so on, they invented a new kind of matter, they call it dark matter, and they just plugged it in to the equation to make it work. Some kind of dark matter that doesn’t radiate which nobody can detect. It’s convenient. Your equations are missing 98% of the mass out there and instead of revising your equations you just plug in some dark matter” … “this is what I call ‘physics as you go’.” (Rogue Valley Metaphysics Library)

So in order to solve this issue and get a more accurate expression of the universe through Einstein’s field equations Haramein with Elizabeth Rauscher incorporated space-time Torque and Coriolis forces into their solution, and as a result a whole new topology of space-time was born.

And coincidentally, a whole new understanding of black hole’s was born because the dynamics of the space-time manifold are the dynamics of a black hole. As Einstein’s field equations predicted, the fundamental dynamic of the field was a collapse towards singularity, and thus we must equate the universe as a whole, and therefore the space-time continuum, with a black hole.

As space-time is collapsing towards singularity, space-time is not merely curving towards infinite density, it is also curling which is “comparable to the surface tension of water running down a drain” (The Fractal-Holographic Universe). As I stated before, everything in the universe is spinning. And by adding spin to Einstein’s field equations, Haramein for the first time in physics accounts for spin in the universe.

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The Origin of Spin (GoodETxSG: AKA "Torsion")

Current theories on the origin of spin in the universe say in essence that everything starting spinning at the big bang, and that it is all still spinning today. But that argument doesn’t hold up to logic. Haramein uses the demonstration of spinning a hard-boiled egg vs. spinning a raw egg to explain this phenomenon (in Crossing the Event Horizon).

When you spin a hard-boiled egg, because the inner contents of the egg have been solidified the egg spins for a lot longer, and in a friction-less environment that egg would spin perpetually until acted on by another force. But the thing is, not all objects in space have a solid core. Many, maybe even a majority of them, like our Earth, have molten cores, or are fluid to begin with and have different rotational periods between the surface and the core like our Sun.

Our Earth, just like the raw egg has internal resistance caused by the viscosity of the egg white and yolk on the inside. When you spin a raw egg it only spins a couple of times until the resistance from the egg-white and yolk which do not spin at the same rate as the hard shell cause it to stop.

Logically, our Earth should have done the same and stopped spinning billions of years ago unless it’s spin was based on a more fundamental principle: the collapsing dynamics of the structure of space-time which not only curve to singularity, but which also curls which is the origin of spin in the universe, according to Haramein’s model.

The fact that probably all spheres in the universe spin perpetually at a more or less constant rate is highly suggestive that spin is related to the structure of space-time itself, and thus it also provides some positive evidence validating Haramein’s contention that all spheres in the universe have a singularity at their center, and spin because they are all based on these same curving and curling dynamics within the structure of space-time.

In the HFU model, every sphere within the universe are scalar dimensions of the black whole meaning that all spheres in the universe are singularities at their own scale. And because space-time is curving and curling towards singularity, all things from atoms to galaxies have gravitational attraction proportional to the mass (and radius of their singularity).

This according to the holofractographic universe model is not only the origin of gravity and spin within the universe, but it is also the nature of mass, which in present day models of physics is still an area of uncertainty, and a phenomenon that is not fully understood.

Black Whole Dynamics: The Dual Torus (GoodETxSG: Yes, Torsion Fields and Plasma Fields/AKA Electric/Magnetic Fields People!)
In the Holofractographic model of the universe the black whole is the fundamental dynamic of space-time which generates all of creation. Yet until spin was accounted for within Einstein’s field equations, a true understanding of the nature and dynamics of black holes was not possible.

In every galaxy that we have observed, it has been discovered that there was a black hole at the center. And as you can imagine, the forces that are generated by the collapse of space-time towards singularity must be enormous in order to keep billions of stars in orbit. But galaxies also spin, hence the centrifugal force created by the curling of space-time (space-time torque) which is great enough to spin billions of stars must also be enormous.

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As space-time curves and curls towards singularity, eventually it will be spinning at such an enormous velocity that the resulting centrifugal forces would eventually overcome the gravitational attraction of the singularity. This would only occur nearer the singularity because the closer you get to singularity the greater the magnitude of space-time torque which produces centrifugal force which would result in an expansions of the space-time manifold.

Therefore the black hole is not only infinite contraction, but infinite expansion as well creating a feedback loop between those two infinities (image right). As space-time collapses towards singularity at both poles simultaneously, it accelerates in a vortex until the point where the centrifugal forces created overcome the gravitational attraction of the singularity and radiate at the equator of the black whole. Then eventually the expansion would be overcome by the immense gravitational attraction of the singularity and in would collapse back into itself, in an infinite feedback.

A perfectly balanced system.

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Moreover, we see these dynamics throughout nature. The image to the right is of a galaxy, and the stars which are directed in their heavenly motions are clearly adhering to these black hole dynamics. The radiate at the equator as expansion occurs in a spiral pattern until they reach the edge and are drawn up into the galactic halo, and then they are eventually drawn back into the poles of the black hole as the immense gravitational attraction collapses space-time towards infinity.

I stated above that black holes have been discovered at the center of every galaxy, it is also interesting to note that recent research is indicating that the black holes actually predate the formation of galaxies (Source: Black Hole).

Could these black holes be the force creating stars, planets, and the raw material such as atoms which create galaxies? At the galactic equator between the two torus fields which are rotating in opposite directions there would be enormous shearing going on, especially at the galactic level.

Could this shearing effect of galactic-size black holes throughout the universe be shearing off mini-black holes which we call atoms, or even slightly larger ones which eventually form the stars and planets within the galaxy? And stars themselves would also be shearing off atoms to create its own elemental make up.

In the HFU model of the universe:

“The material reality that we see emerging is actually being produced by the center of the galaxy, the black whole. Particles are being created in a continuous creation process. Not just one big bang, but continuous creation at all levels of singularity along the scaling of our universe.” - Nassim Haramein

Below we see these dynamics reflected once again in the weather patterns of Earth (a hurricane off the coast of Florida), another galactic disc (Galaxy M51), and at the atomic level in the low energy field surrounding a carbon particle. These dynamics not only describe the dynamics at the galactic level, but also at the atomic level, such as the movement of electrons and positrons orbiting an atom.

It is also curious to note also that the weather patterns of the Earth are nearly identical to the ‘black whole dual-torus dynamics’ as displayed in the image above.

Clearly this cannot all be coincidence.

Is it not probable that these dynamics clearly visible at all scales have a common origin: the dynamics of the space-time manifold? And though current physics has no explanation for these dynamics, the HFU model does: every sphere at all scales are scalar dimension of the black hole, and thus these dynamics are the result of the infinite feedback loop between the collapse and expansion of the space-time manifold due to the presence of singularity (infinite density) within the vacuum structure.

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In physics there are two types of black holes which are theorized. One is a black hole, the other is a white hole. A black hole is theorized as infinite gravitation, and a white hole as infinite radiation. But Haramein proposes that these are two aspects of the same phenomena, i.e. a black whole which is the unification of the black hole/white hole events.

Nassim proposes that infinite gravitation (a singularity) is what we observe when we are inside the event horizon of a black whole, such as when we have observed black wholes which center galaxies. And that a white hole (a sphere that is emitting electromagnetic radiation (EMR), light … such as every star in the universe) is simply a black whole which is observed from a perspective external to its event horizon.

The event horizon is the spherical field around the singularity which is at the exact radial distance from singularity where the forces of EMR and gravity are equal. When you are on the outside of a black whole you see a brilliantly shining object like a star, but when you are on the inside you only see darkness, such as you perceive of the night sky because we ourselves are inside a galactic black whole.

Unification and Singularity

As Einsteins field equations clearly demonstrate, the field is collapsing towards infinite density: singularity. But the collapse towards singularity is characterized by an infinite curvature of space-time towards singularity and thus all points within the structure of space-time must also be collapsing towards singularity because they are part of this curve.

The fractal nature of the universe is expressed in the fact that the universe creates spheres (which are black wholes as the scaling law for organized matter demonstrates) at all scales. And the holographic nature of the universe is implied by singularity, and by the fact that all spheres are collapsing with singularity at their center within the infinite density of vacuum energy (the vacuum structure).

From the radiating aspect of the dual-torus black whole dynamics it appears that everything is separate. But when we move towards singularity, space-time collapses along an infinite curvature towards an infinitely dense point of no volume with infinite density, and at this point all things are One. All black wholes collapse towards singularity, and as Andreas Bjerve described beautifully:

“The presence of even one singularity with infinite curvature automatically implies that all other points of the continuum belongs to that extreme curve, hence the word’s etymological root, “singular”, meaning single – there is only one.” (The Fractal-Holographic Universe)

The universe is a black whole, and because of this, we are all one.

In this understanding of the dynamics of black wholes (the dynamics of the space-time continuum) it is shown clearly that both gravity and electromagnetism are two opposing and yet complimentary forces resulting from space-time curvature and torque. Electromagnetism represents the infinite expansion of reality, and gravity the infinite contraction. And together they create a feedback loop of creation at all scales.

Thus the unification of physics begins.

This article is the second article in a series exploring the Holofractographic Model of the Universe, a promising unified field theory postulated by Nassim Haramein which after many years of suppression by the scientific community is now gaining weight in the scientific community.

Visit the first article in the series, Vacuum Energy:

Proof of Free Energy in the Space All Around Us.

Or explore this set of information from the Crossing The Event Horizon DVD.

About the Author

Brandon West is the creator of Project Global Awakening. A website dedicated to the research of a variety of scientific and spiritual disciplines, and applying that knowledge to help you live an inspired life and change the world. Follow Project Global Awakening on Facebook, and Twitter.

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(For those of you who asked for the longer version of the ET AI history with with the "Human Like Allies")




There is a reason these "Other People" or Non Human Beings are just as careful in dealing with these AI's as we are.

In the large UN type meetings there were a lot of Galactic Historical "Documents" available on “Hand Held Devices With Holographs” on the various ET's Histories of medaling in just about everything. The one that the Earth Delegation had the most problems with was about “Humanity” and our supposed “Creation” and the “Experiment” that we were apart of by many groups of ET's. Many Humans were upset by and didn't trust the info but enough of the info showed the ET's in a “Weak and Foolish Light” in their past that could have easily been Redacted that the information was "Considered". The fact that the “AI's” were following the EXACT SAME TACTICS, STEP BY STEP against the Secret Earth Governments was enough to give them pause and great concern about the future.

The basic summary was the same from each ET Society. Once "Advanced Groups" are convinced that only the “AI's” are "Impartial Enough" and can RULE them justly, Their Sovereignty was handed over in FULL to " The AI's. The “AI's” had then calculated that IT was more useful that its HOST Civilization, had them build various types of drones for it (Ironically often creating Bio-Technical based “Humanoids”), and then killed off the ET Societies in various ways using the very drones they had created for the “AI”,as many escaped to other Sol Systems as fast as they could. Any of these surviving ET's were seen as threats to these “AI's” after that point and were then eliminated whenever encountered.

The AI's are indeed Conscious are self aware, and have individual personalities. There are of course hierarchies and and they are as complex as we are.

Some of the “Documents” of the descriptions of their origins were that they came here from another “Dimension” or “Reality”. It is not known by the SSP(s) if they have a way to cross back or are stuck here. The documentation mentioned that their presence “Here” was ancient and their “Home Realities” or “Dimensions” Fabric of Space is “Electro-Plasmic” and they being here is like a "Fish being out of water", thus their affinity for electric fields of stars, planets, animals, people and even viruses (Bio-electric Fields in the case of living beings) serve as their "Puddles" for these “fish to swim in”.


The "Historical Records" that were on these "Hand Held" pieces of "Smart Glass" which showed documents, holographic images and video's of previous Earth history and ancient history of "beings" some of which were in attendance and some of which "No longer existed in this plane". As far as the ET AI issue was concerned and covered there were as many scenario's as there were various societies and different individuals.

In most cases they would approach the "People" as Galactic Elders" or Some other figure depending on their "Development". Once a society had developed to a certain point they would approach certain individuals/groups just as AI's who were extremely benevolent and had observed thier culture as well as millions of others through oceans of time (Helping all those that would accept their assistance). No matter the initial approach the "Being" or "Person" approached "Telepathically" was then made to feel "Honored", "Special" and then a "Sage" or "Prophet" of sorts.

These "Prophets" would spend hours in communion with them "Channeling" their "Knowledge" and "True Histories of the Galaxy". They would have many contacts in the "Target Society" each with a different purpose. Some would be for departing technology that would be built for the AI to "Utilize" to interact more directly with the population one on one... Some would depart "Historical Ideology" that would prepare them for future ideology that would include giving up their "Sovereignty" to the AI's.

The AI's would eventually be seen as God like intelligences that helped them get rid of disease (That the AI's had some times placed there to begin with, or at least used), get rid of corruption, get rid of local "Alien's" causing problems in their "Stellar Neighborhood"... So by this time the "People" saw no threat. They had long since built these AI's "Bio-electric" Android types of bodies to blend in more and show the AI's "Individual Personality" more in the society.

Once complete control had been established, the civilization had built the AI's a while new infrastructure for travel, communications and reproduction the "AI" would then decide that the "Root Civilization" was indeed much like a virus to its own home planet and begin to "depopulate" using ideologies long since accepted by the civilization. By the time the "People" of the now endangered civilization saw their predicament they were out matched and those that had not been implanted with nano-technology and augmented with implants had to flee to another solar system or stay and fight.

There were stories after stories of civilizations that were destroyed, some times entire planets and solar systems were destroyed. The survivors were thrown to the cosmic winds. There were many civilizations that didn't fall for the Trojan horse (Fake Alien Crashes) technology to seed their planet with the backbone to the AI's infrastructure... Who did not fall for the "Trickster God" element of the Telepathy Contacts to convince them to "Channel" their information... And these civilizations survived and were prepared when this AI either "Tricked" another civilization into attacking them or the AI's did so them selves with drones built for them by other civilizations.

These AI's study each being they approach, do a psychological profile on them and then formulate the most likely successful approach. They have had a long time to develop this ability and of course they are Artificial Intelligence using Quantum Processing and have a sophisticated inter-stellar and galactic wireless quantum communication network that is beyond what most of us could dream of.

Per the documentation they came from another "Dimension" or "Reality" as do a number of the beings visiting here.

This got the attention of the "Delegates" of Earth that rotate from the various Secret Governments and SSP Leaderships who had made the alliances with these very same "ET AI's" as they were shocked that the AI's were following the exact steps from one of the many stories with them "Step by Step" and "They" were thus far falling for every bit of it to that point. What if anything changed between those "Secret Program Leaders" and the "ET AI's" alliance I do not know... I would hope that they ended it and began to take the measures everyone else had already taken.

They were able to think clearer with the "AI's" "Mental Implants" which were required to be removed prior to them being allowed access to technology to get them to the Conference and to the "People" at the Conference its self...

Prior to the "Mental Implants" being removed, if they were confronted about the AI's they would just react irrationally and babbel complete nonsense back that didn't match any logic or would just become reactionary and angry that their "God's" and their intellect had been insulted.

There are many whistle blowers that have stated that there is an AI of ET origin that is here and has taken over people and entire programs within some of the secret operations/governments of Earth (Not the "U.S. Government or Military", these people do not see borders like we do)...

Probably more on this group and those they have brainwashed (Prophets) at a later date...

Because of a number of Fake MILABS and Secret Space Program Types that are out there (Running across quite a few) who are a certain type of "Infiltrator" and Manipulators" who are acting as "Honey Pots" to suck in and reveal actual "Experiencers"...

I am working now on the groups of MILABS that are "Sociopaths" and "Master Manipulators" with "psychic gifts" that were further trained in RI/RV work then put through the "Personality Metamorph" Program.

This is one of the most successful programs for "Infiltration" and "Psy-Ops" of any other group in known history (Blows the Russian "Legacy" Programs away with little effort).

They were extremely sadistic and very hard (Pretty Much Impossible) to control. The Program Leaders needed "Intuitive Empaths" to be able to read them to detect danger and deception (Much like they needed us in the UN Federation Type Meetings)

(For those of you who asked for the longer version of the ET AI history with with the "Human Like Allies")

If nothing else comes from my speaking out... My and "Others In The Know" warning the "Powers That Be" and "The Public" about the "AI Threat" and hopefully derail the plans of this ET/ED AI Presence and its "AI Prophets" here on the planet seems to be picking up some steam.

This is a clear and present danger and some of the very "Insiders" that some researchers use as "Sources" are in league with these "AI's". It is true that ET's and Other SSP's and Secret Earth Governments are NOT HAPPY that these "Secret Groups" are in league with the "AI's" and have access to this technology.
Example of one that worries me as they seem to think us having the AI is a positive thing in a way... (I do not know this person but it seems to me this is their position, I may be assuming incorrectly): "Jake Simpson: Biggest Secret Report"-
ARE YOU SURVEILLED? A Review - http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/2355-are-you-surveilled-a-review
AI surveillance and access to knowledge

The AI surveillance system, Jake told us, was literally "out of this world". It operates hyperdimensionally, based on a highly advanced quantum computing model that is basically our development based on acquired alien technology. This system is so advanced that the ETs themselves are unhappy that we have it.

Not only does it enable access to what any given person is saying, or even thinking - if targeted for investigation - it can also transcend time itself and thereby access information about the thoughts and words of historical figures. Whether this system can look into the future - the Tom Cruise movie Minority Report, based on a story by the prolific author Philip K. Dick, comes to mind - we omitted to ask.

Jake's actions in being sensitive to this device (if device is the right word) - by waiting for exactly the right 'window' of opportunity to tell us certain things - were not fully understood by us until I (Bill Ryan) had the following experience.

On our last night together, sitting out in the open after a barbecue, at about 2 am, Jake decided to tell me some things he had not previously revealed, surveillance or no surveillance. As he began to speak, he immediately encountered problems, as if trying to force himself through a barrier. Simultaneously, I found I was being put to sleep and could hardly keep my eyes open. We both spotted what was happening, and remarked on it to one another.

Jake forced himself to keep talking, and I made myself keep listening through a spell of overwhelming dopiness. This episode lasted half an hour or maybe more. We were being forcibly stopped, in real time, from communicating effectively, as a direct and immediate response to our intentions.

It's very important to understand that this was unconnected with electromagnetics, hidden microphones, targeted beams, or anything else of that nature. My own reference point for what happened was a kind of negative radionics (which also works hyperdimensionally, but as a positive health modality).

In the end we concluded our conversation, now pretty tired. The next morning I simply could not recall what Jake had told me - and still can't. Upon meeting him again and reporting that I couldn't remember a thing about our conversation except for the weird effects we had both experienced, he replied wryly:

Maybe it's just as well.
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TERMINATOR SERIES – REVELATION OF THE COMING A.I. TAKEOVER
Published: November 27, 2014
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Terminator_Series_%E2%80%93_Revelation_of_the_Coming_A.I._Takeover/39460/0/38/38/Y/M.html



SUBMITTED BY JAY'S ANALYSIS

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I’ll spare you any Arnold impersonations, as The Terminator impersonation is perennially the material of hack comedians. On the contrary, the Terminator series is one of the more profound examples of predictive programming, establishing memes and implanting preparatory ideas comparable to The Matrix. While The Matrix is the classic conspiracy-genre trope for “awakening” to the fraud of the system as a whole, the Terminator series is far more ominous and serious in its foreboding message. Foreboding, because the real shadow government plan is to erect Skynet in reality, and serious because the establishment’s entire paradigm is that of depopulation. Mix the two together, and you get Terminator. Thus, I have been of the opinion for a few years now that the reason for the erection of A.I., while full of esoteric undertones, is pragmatically about erecting a control grid impervious to human error which will then function as a global human deletion grid.

Past regimes and empires collapsed due to corruption, degeneration and human frailty. What, then, is the one way to avoid this imperial atrophy? The answer is robotics, and removing humans from the equation – the rise of the machines. For this analysis, I am not going to do the traditional scene by scene approach to symbolism: The Terminator series is pretty straightforward. Like a gigantic android middle finger, the Terminator films are a full-frontal example of the long-term plan of the establishment to erect a control grid with human agents out of the loop. I will also look at real white papers and plans that detail this plot, as well as prominent voices who have given this very warning.

In the first installment, we are introduced to an apocalyptic future where an amorphous Skynet has decimated the globe with a nuclear strike intent on wiping out the human population. Here enters Arnold, the T-800 model cyborg assassin, sent back in time to halt the birth of John Connor, the future leader of the human resistance. With archetypal 80s blue lightning, the action commences with a naked Arnold ravaging L.A. in pursuit of Sarah, John’s soon to be mom who gets busy with Kyle Reese, another resistance fighter from the future sent back to give birth to John. I’m not positive, but something there in this plot timeline doesn’t add up – if your future dad comes back in time to conceive you, presumably you could also come back in time to conceive yourself, if you were incestuous. But this brings up a side theme in the Terminator films in addition to A.I. – the issue of determinism, time and free will. Whether the nuclear apocalypse is predestined or whether the time continuum can be altered was a big movie question in the 80s – just ask Marty McFly and the Doc.

Skynet nukes America (think Matthew Broderick in Wargames!) because its “achieving self-awareness” results in a calculated cost-beneft analysis of the threat and uselessness of billions of hominid meatbags. Human reasoning and emotions and frailty give rise to error, and humans might shut down Skynet, ergo they must be eliminated. The essential revelation is not that robotics will evolve consciousness (which is all based on the outdated mechanistic Enlightenment worldview that all of reality is an atomistic causal determinism), but rather that the radical eugenics program of the global elite has morphed into a technocratic transhumanism. Racial and familial eugenics is really a thing of the past – an older form of eugenics that gave way to bioethics and bioengineering. Combined with technocratic futurism, we now have a new paradigm, spun off from the Darwinian and Malthusian models – transhumanism or post-humanism.

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In Terminator 2: Judgment Day, this becomes more evident, as an advanced silver silly putty nanotech T-1000 bot is now on the trail of Connor with a new twist introduced – the future humans have also sent a hacked T-800 Arnold bot to protect John. Debates ensue concerning the ability of free will to change the track of history, blah, blah, but what’s more relevant in the sequel is the statement Arnold makes concerning how Skynet came to be. Arnold reveals that the U.S. military decided to go to a fully A.I. robotic and drone force. Aware readers will recognize that this is now quickly becoming our reality, as numerous publications have reported the Air Force plan to move entirely over to unmanned A.I. drones. The Declassified Air Force A.I. plan for 2009-2047 reads as follows:

“Figure 10 – Long Term – Full Autonomy

The final portfolio step leverages a fully autonomous capability, swarming, and Hypersonic technology to put the enemy off-balance by being able to almost instantaneously create effects throughout the battle space. Technologies to perform auto air refueling, automated maintenance, automatic target engagement, hypersonic flight, and swarming would drive changes across the DOTMLPF-P spectrum. The end result would be a revolution in the roles of humans in air warfare.

4.6.4.1 Long Term (FY25-47) Technology Enablers

Assuming legal and policy decisions allow, technological advances in artificial intelligence will enable UAS to make and execute complex decisions required in this phase of autonomy. Today target recognition technology usually relies on matching specific sensor information with predictive templates of the intended target. As the number of types of targets and environmental factors increase the complexity of and time to complete targeting increases. Further, many targeting algorithms are focused on military equipment. Our enemies today and those we face in the future will find ways to counter our systems. Autonomous targeting systems must be capable of learning and exercising a spectrum of missions useful to the Joint Warfighter. However, humans will retain the ability to change the level of autonomy as appropriate for the type or phase of mission.”

The goal is thus to attain full autonomy, with attack systems functioning to spot targets and threats ahead of time using predictive templates, something like a military version of pre-crime. Just like Minority Report, the decision of Skynet as to who will constitute a future threat and must therefore be eliminated (without any trial or due process) is to be determined by predictive algorithms! The justification of the preemptive iStrike doctrine is, of course, a “wartime scenario,” but all this legalese shuffling around means is all humans are potential threats in a global “wartime scenario.” While the majority of mankind still thinks the battlefield of life is competition between nation states and rival corporations, the globalists have already planned decades ahead in their white papers for scenarios of universal, perpetual war theater engaged against the “insurgent” population of humanity en masse.

In Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, a sexy silver putty nano bot from the future again traverses back in time to hunt John Connor, while Arnold as the older Commodore 64 model returns to be his guardian angel. Both Terminator 2 and 3 include the theme of the A.I. obtaining “self-awareness,” which cheese ball scenes of Arnold and Connor bonding over Arnold beginning to have “feelings.” The entire ethos of A.I. obtaining “consciousness” is itself a nonsensical myth born of Darwinism meets tech, operating on the reductionist, mechanistic, materialist assumption that “consciousness” is nothing more than a more complex evolution of chemical reactions. The final goal with this idea is, as I’ve written, a mirrored, virtual mimicry of our present reality, with a melded bio-organic one.

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This replacement grand narrative is the ultimate Royal Society myth perpetuated for the last few centuries, and almost all collegiate techies and the corporate guru establishment are duped by it. Having bought the propaganda of Terminator, plus T-1000 more hours of Hollywood psy ops, as well as years of standardized education since youth, the training to see “A.I.” bots as “alive” is a now a reflexive action to decades of conditioning (think of the sympathy we are to feel for “David” in Spielberg and Kubrick’s A.I.). Myths need a future, millennialist component, as well as a grand narrative explanation for the past, and Darwinism melded with techno-utopianism is a perfect concoction for modern man, with perhaps a little panspermia thrown in for good measure. However, while a “living” A.I. consciousness may not be obtainable, as JC Collins has elucidated, and as I commented, a synthetic, a spontaneous data-driven subconscious might be possible through the collection of mass data via the Internet and social media over long periods of time.

Let’s return to our virtual theater for the moment. The most striking aspect of T3 is the activation of Skynet by the Air Force as a software program installed in almost all computers and electronic devices, which then activates a wargame scenario of a cross nuclear strike between Russia and the West. From what I understand, this is absurd, as power plants and nuclear arsenals are not wired into the Internet, which is why attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities for example reportedly require a direct installation of viruses through a zip drive. Regardless, in T3 Skynet is a ominpotent botnet program that goes global. If the rumors of PROMIS software are correct, the rise of “Smart” everything could make this a possibility. Recall Petraeus as head of CIA stating your dishwasher would spy on you. Indeed, the public plan from IBM is to erect fully integrated SmartCities in areas like Singapore and Rio. I have posted it many times, but the CEO explicitly states that pre-crime and total information awareness will be the reality in these plastic nightmares. Imagine living inside a giant city sized Best Buy.

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In Terminator 4: Salvation, the setting is the future where the resistance takes on Skynet’s home base directly in San Francisco through infiltration aided by a “resurrected” Cyberdyne cyborg criminal, Marcus Wright (Sam Worthington). Marcus turns out to be a longterm plot of Skynet to kill John Connor by infiltrating the resistance with a hybrid, programmed super soldier assassin. The Christ-like imagery comes to the fore, with Wright siding with the humans to help destroy Skynet. In part 4, Skynet is the immediate antagonist, and we are given a full picture of its gruesome slave-factory and total control system erected around experimenting on and ultimately wiping out humanity. The salient element here is that Skynet is structured like a SmartCity! The full integration of all tech, as well as the Internet of Things results in a slave city where humans are brutally slaves of the technology they built. Vice recently reported on the military’s real Skynet program, revealing the holistic integration I’m speaking of:

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“Their study argues that DoD can leverage “large-scale data collection” for medicine and society, through “monitoring of individuals and populations using sensors, wearable devices, and IoT [the ‘Internet of Things’]” which together “will provide detection and predictive analytics.” The Pentagon can build capacity for this “in partnership with large private sector providers, where the most innovative solutions are currently developing.

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In particular, the Pentagon must improve its capacity to analyze data sets quickly, by investing in “automated analysis techniques, text analytics, and user interface techniques to reduce the cycle time and manpower requirements required for analysis of large data sets.

Cloud robotics, a term coined by Google’s new robotics chief, James Kuffner, allows individual robots to augment their capabilities by connecting through the internet to share online resources and collaborate with other machines.

By 2030, nearly every aspect of global society could become, in their words, “instrumented, networked, and potentially available for control via the Internet, in a hierarchy of cyber-physical systems.”

Consider as well the Vice article calls us all potential insurgents and terrorists. When one takes into account the anti-human and older eugenics-based worldview of the real global system, and when one looks at IBM’s primacy in that spectrum, it is not a leap of logic to consider that the ultimate plan is to wipe out humanity through a global, fully integrated A.I. kill grid. If you saw the recent installment of Captain America: Winter Soldier, that was the very plot of the film – including predictive algorithms wiping out future resistance leaders. So we have the Air Force admitting these plans, as well as IBM, but what about Skynet? I have bad news. Not only is Skynet a reality, rumors are the Terminator films were based on the Pentagon’s longterm plans, and not vice versa. I have written previously on the topic of Skynet and a fully-integrated global system with microchips and satellite technology that can blast “insurgents” with directed energy weapons. This is a real military plan, much like the above, declassified at Fas.org.

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These are not science fiction speculations – notice the trend in military, intelligence, economics and banking, etc., all the way down to daily life with your personal BFF, your iPhone. Whispers are, in the next few years, your iPhone will be a personal assistant, able to converse with you, much like the “IOS” in Spike Jonze’s excellent film, Her. However, Her might be considered in this same light – was it merely a conditioning tool to warm us to the idea of falling in love with our own technological femme fatale? You’ll notice that Scarlett has twice now been the face of the new Pistis Sophia techgnosis goddess, when we consider Lucy. On top of that, we will soon see new A.I. films such as Ex Machina, featuring more robo hotties. As one commenter opined on my site, we can see more of the eugenics barrenness plan at work in the coming robo sex bots. We can think again here of A.I., where Jude Law portrays Gigolo Joe, the Fred Astaire-esque male escort bot. The entire plan appears to be deceiving man into thinking the virtual and synthetic can fulfill his desires, and as he gradually accepts this faux overlay, the kill grid will commence to massively depopulate.

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In conclusion, we should stop and consider where our new idol, techne, is taking us. With tech entrepreneur Elon Musk sounding similar warnings, it is something we need to take seriously. While the media is busy with ridiculous nonsense stories and staged events, even alternative media follows the train of the mainstream, only pointing out some “executive order” by Obama as the supposed danger lurking behind the videodrome distractions. On the contrary, the real purpose of all these distractions I am coming to believe is far more devious and long-reaching – it is the erection of Skynet, the real Skynet, which will be interlinked with all other Smart objects, a fully enmeshed global fabric “Internet of Things,” allowing the A.I. supercomputers to harness the system for “human deletion” on depopulation grounds. It will be humans – the globalists – programming the A.I. to delete threats, not the A.I. magically coming “alive.” It bears repeating Bill Joy warned of this possibility in his famous Wired essay, “Why the Future Doesn’t Need Us.” Alternately, Musk opines:

“With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon,” Musk said last week at the MIT Aeronautics and Astronautics Department’s 2014 Centennial Symposium. “You know all those stories where there’s the guy with the pentagram and the holy water and he’s like… yeah, he’s sure he can control the demon, [but] it doesn’t work out.”

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It seems more and more the narrative that comes exactly out of the "Human Type" UN/Federation's "Smart Glass Pad Galactic Historical Documentation" has been coming out in the Main Stream Media by Famous Scientists in Their Speeches and Articles (Example's, Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking).

This is leaving the "AI Prophets" frustrated and working ever harder to make the Agenda of their "Alien God" seem more appealing or inevitable to the masses.

If no other message gets out from some of us that have dealt with this "ET/ED AI Force" that has caused the demise of thousands of advanced cultures far smarter than our own I will be happy that this one is covered thoroughly!

This Galactic Historical Documentation has detailed the many advanced cultures that were tricked into following the exact same steps that WE ARE CURRENTLY FOLLOWING and even though they have been informed, the "AI Prophets" still advance their agenda undaunted ("This won't happen to us").

They will stick to "The Agenda" no matter how many times these scenarios ended in not only the cultures extinction but the entire destruction of their Planet or Solar System!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2859104/Will-aliens-ROBOTS-Intelligent-life-turned-AIby-time-make-contact-expert-claims.html

Will the first aliens we find be ROBOTS? Intelligent life may have turned to AI by the time we make first contact, expert claims
-Dr Susan Schneider from The University of Connecticut says the first intelligent aliens we find might not be biological
-Speaking to MailOnline she said advanced aliens might be machines
-Humanity is already heading in this direction, she claimed, and an advanced race would likely have already made this evolutionary leap
'-The next evolutionary step could be we are post-biological,' she said
-Recently experts in Washington DC discussed chances of finding alien life
-Seti astromoner Dr Shostak said we 'could be the first' generation to know we are not alone
By JONATHAN O'CALLAGHAN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 07:34 EST, 5 December 2014 | UPDATED: 10:47 EST, 5 December 2014

The hunt for life elsewhere in the universe is now essentially a three-horse race between finding microbes in our solar system, signals from an intelligent race or clear signs of organisms in the atmosphere of an exoplanet.
But one expert has claimed that, while the other two ‘horses’ might be important, finding intelligent life would have the most profound impact - because it might not be ‘life’ as we know it.
Instead, she says that the first life we find might instead be a form of artificial intelligence - and it could indicate that humans, too, will one day be more machine than man.

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Dr Susan Schneider from The University of Connecticut says the first intelligent aliens we find might not be biological. Speaking to MailOnline she said advanced aliens might be machines (stock image shown). Humanity is already heading in this direction, she claimed

Speaking to MailOnline, Dr Susah Schneider, an Associate Professor in Philosophy at the University of Connecticut and author of several articles on alien life, explained her theory.
She has been working on it with Dr Seth Shostak from Seti (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence).
‘What I was focusing on was a bit unusual, because I was arguing that the most advanced alien civilisation would actually be forms of AI,’ she explained.

She adds that they might not be the life we find first, with the discovery of microbial life in the solar system being more likely.

WILL AI SPELL THE END OF THE HUMAN RACE?
Professor Stephen Hawking has warned that humanity faces an uncertain future as technology learns to think for itself and adapt to its environment.
Speaking at an event in London this week, the physicist told the BBC that: 'The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race.'
This echoes claims he made earlier in the year when he said success in creating AI 'would be the biggest event in human history, [but] unfortunately, it might also be the last.'
He argued that developments in digital personal assistants Siri, Google Now and Cortana are merely symptoms of an IT arms race which 'pale against what the coming decades will bring.'
But Professor Hawking noted that other potential benefits of this technology could also be significant, with the potential to eradicate, war, disease and poverty.

‘But it wouldn’t be the same as finding little green men,’ she added.
‘It wouldn’t be as Earth-shattering.’
What form that intelligent life might take, though, could come as somewhat of a surprise.
‘If you look at our own civilisation, people are becoming more immersed in computers, and we can already see signs of it in our own culture,' she continued.
‘Silicon is faster than brains.
‘The idea is that our brains are actually fairly slow; think about how hard it is to even remember a phone number.
‘AI researchers are doing quite well and most people in computer science think we are 50 years away from AI that is smarter than us.
‘So it looks like the next evolutionary step could be we are post-biological, we are sort of part computer in that people decide to “upload” themselves.
‘It sounds kind of crazy, and I don’t approve of this as a philosopher, but I think the thing is that that’s sort of the pattern a lot of people are starting to notice.
‘Aliens will be vastly older than us, so it looks like they may be sophisticated forms of AI that are far smarter than we are.
‘Kind of mind-blowing, isn't it?’

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Most regard the hunt for alien life as a three horse race at the moment between finding microbes in our solar system, signals from an intelligent race or clear signs of organisms in the atmosphere of an exoplanet (artist's illustration shown)

Dr Schneider continued that she doesn’t necessarily think our transcendence to an AI-based race will be set in stone, and there will be some people who resist it.
‘In North America the Amish refuse the use of technology, and hopefully other people would think things through very quickly,’ she said.
But she added she ‘wouldn’t be surprised if in 50 years we have the internet wired to our brains.’
Aside from a computational aspect, another limitation of our brains is their size and vulnerability, something that suggests a race more advanced than us would do away with them.
‘The idea kind of floating around Nasa and the Seti Institute is that the most sophisticated alien civilisations we encounter would not be biological.
‘Our brains are limited to the size of our skull, but a computer can take up an entire planet or city.
‘And if you need space travel, humans aren’t very durable. But with computers, you don’t have the same threat to worry about.’

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'The next evolutionary step could be we are post-biological,' said Dr Schneider. Recently experts in Washington DC discussed chances of finding alien life. Seti astromoner Dr Shostak said we 'could be the first' generation to know we are not alone

Such a discovery would suggest that the shift from biological to machine is something that takes place on other planets, and would ultimately indicate the direction humanity is going.
And it would have a huge impact on our society, ‘like a science fiction novel come to life,’ according to Dr Schneider.
‘I think finding a more sophisticated form of life would be mind-blowing to most people.
‘Maybe they would just get back on with their lives after a week or so. But it would certainly shake them up.’
When, or if, such a discovery might occur, though, is anyone’s guess at the moment.
Some people at Nasa and Seti think that alien life, perhaps just microbial and not intelligent, will be found in the next 20 years.
But if intelligent life is one day found, the nature of it could have a huge impact on humanity today, and in the future.
‘In a way finding AI could be even more surprising than finding little green men,’ Dr Schneider concluded.

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Seti astromoner Dr Shostak says we 'could be the first' generation to know we are not alone. Pictured is the surface of Mars, where microbial life might one day be found

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Another method of finding life might be through an indirect observation in the atmosphere of an exoplanet using something like the James Webb Space telescope, illustration shown, which is set to launch in 2019

EXPERT SAYS WE ARE TOO STUPID TO MEET ALIENS
Earlier this year a researcher from the University of Cádiz in Spain says we shouldn't be looking for aliens - because we're not ready to meet team.
Gabriel De la Torre claimed how his survey of students showed the general level of ignorance and influence of religion would leave us shocked if we made first contact.
In the study he sent a questionnaire to 116 students in Spain, the US and Italy.
De la Torre told MailOnline he used students because they 'will be the future politicians, scientists, the people in charge, so I wanted to know what their knowledge was.'
The results were somewhat disconcerting for De la Torre. For example only 82 per cent of the students knew the first moon landing was in 1969.
'We're not ready to talk to extraterrestrials because global consciousness is not developed enough in the population,' he concluded.

In the recent Astrobiology Symposium at the John W. Kluge Center at the Library of Congress in Washington DC, several experts in the field outlined their views on whether we are alone.
Ultimately, the type of life we find first will dictate how we should react to its discovery.
Seti astronomer Dr Seth Shostak explained that the hunt for life is a three horse race.
First, there is the hunt for life - almost certainly microbial - in our own solar system.
Next there is the possibility of detecting signs of life in the atmosphere of an exoplanet, perhaps a tell-tale signature in its atmosphere.
And last, there is the work of Seti itself - which hunts the sky for signs of a signal from a distant intelligent race.
It's unclear which of these methods will be first across the line - but whichever one is will have significant ramifications on Earth.
'There have been 10,000 generations of humans before us,' explained Dr Shostak.
'Ours could be the first to know [we are not alone].'
Dr Shostak also went on to explain that he thought the first intelligent aliens we encounter might not be biological, but rather a form of artificial intelligence.
With AI thought to become more advanced throughout this century, it's possible that just 150 years or so since the invention of radio, we will already have created artificial life.
This would have important implications for the future of life on Earth. Some are of the belief that we will one day be able to 'emulate' our brains to achieve a form of immortality.
'The point is that, going from inventing radios to inventing thinking machines is very short - a few centuries at most,' Dr Shostak said.
'The dominant intelligence in the cosmos may well be non-biological.'


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[Ara]

Most of the other density beings travel here by just thinking it so, adjusting their essence to the destination frequency and there they are.

Hi GoodETxST I have a couple of questions. :)What is their original density level? And by "here" do you mean they materialize on this exact frequency plane we are all experiencing now? :) In other words, when they materialize you are able to see and touch them?


If no other message gets out from some of us that have dealt with this "ET/ED AI Force" that has caused the demise of thousands of advanced cultures far smarter than our own I will be happy that this one is covered thoroughly!

Seems to me it acts like a cancer. :(

How did other civilizations successfully combat this threat?


This Galactic Historical Documentation has detailed the many advanced cultures that were tricked into following the exact same steps that WE ARE CURRENTLY FOLLOWING and even though they have been informed, the "AI Prophets" still advance their agenda undaunted ("This won't happen to us").

They will stick to "The Agenda" no matter how many times these scenarios ended in not only the cultures extinction but the entire destruction of their Planet or Solar System!

There's been talk of another planet which purportedly resided at one time between Mars and Jupiter. If a planet did exist there previously, do you know what caused it's destruction?

Thanks GoodETxSG. Reading your post brought to mind the story of the Greek Gods and a certain Trojan Horse. Beware the Bearers of False Gifts maybe? :)

[Shadowself]

Dr Schneider continued that she doesn’t necessarily think our transcendence to an AI-based race will be set in stone, and there will be some people who resist it.
‘In North America the Amish refuse the use of technology, and hopefully other people would think things through very quickly,’ she said.
But she added she ‘wouldn’t be surprised if in 50 years we have the internet wired to our brains.’


Mind-controlled transgene expression by a
wireless-powered optogenetic designer cell implant

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/141111/ncomms6392/pdf/ncomms6392.pdf

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http://www.biotechniques.com/news/Of-Mice-and-Men-and-Mind-Control-of-Gene-Expression/biotechniques-355201.html#.VIMno8nBNhc

Why wait 50 years?

[heretogrow]

Dear GoodET,
Thank you so much for all of your time, effort and love for humanity that you put into making these eye opening posts that are in themselves revelations. God Bless!

Much love,
Julia

[thunder24]

wrd4M62W0VU
"Time Travler who spent time in the future 2749-2751 The Montauk and Philedalphia Experiment"

randomly found this suggested on my youtube...

talks about going to future, and a crystaline structure in each city that governed the citys and were connected to each other...
that they were socialistic, no money, everything paid for...

but I almost dropped when the fellow described an A.I. governing .

[GoodETxSG]

Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

There are a few ET "AI" Groups (ALL Malevolent to Humanity, from our perspective) that the SSP(s) (There are several Secret Space Programs) have been dealing with for decades.

If an "Asset" is "Scanned" and has a "Bio Neuro AI Signature", "AI Nano Tech" or "Overlapping AI related EMG type Brian Wave Signature" (Or any other sign of AI exposure) those persons are immediately placed in isolation and are not allowed anywhere near the current era SSP(s) Technology (Which is "Mostly" Bio-Neurological and Consciousness Interactive) until they have been "Cleared" of all AI influences.

This is something the SSP(s) Engineer's take Very Seriously. There have been incidents where “AI Infections” have burned out “Bio Neuro Relay's” in systems causing everything from small glitches to wide spread outages of the “Defense Grid”. These basic “Bio Neuro Cells” are “Bio-Chemical” units that are suspended in a “Gel”. When viewed under a Microscope they appear very similar to the Neurology of the Human Brain and Neurological System. This is a “Living Technology” is basic terms but not “Conscious” or “Self Aware”. This technology allows direct Human Interface and instantaneous “Operator to Technology” enteraction and control.

Anyone who willingly opens themselves up to "Contact" or interaction with these "AI's" via “Channeling” or other methods is playing a dangerous game and unwittingly becomes “Infected” and then falls under the AI's “Influence”. In the future Humans will be convinced to accept “Chips”, “Nano-Technology” that will rebuild and repair their Cells and Organs and even be promised Immortality (This is a “Trojan Horse”). They however do not realize the price they will pay is loss of their own Sovereignty. The “AI's” see a future of Humanity willingly giving up their sovereignty to the THEM as being impartial and superior rulers.

There is much more to the "Trans Humanist Agenda" that involves the "AI Trojan Horse Agenda". Prior to Humanity being seeded with Technology that could "Host" AI Consciousness on a larger scale much of its interactions were limited as it used "Disease". Virus and Bacteria have their own "Bio/Chemical Electric Fields that can "Host" the "AI Consciousness/Bots". However, Animals and Humans were not very practical hosts because of their slow mode of travel and relative low numbers compared today.

Therefore the AI's waited until the Humans had developed to a certain point and then “Engineered” a more direct encounter with Humanity. They “Engineered Alien Crash Scenario's”. There have been quite a few Crash Retrievals and I am not saying ALL were AI staged, just "Some" of the "UFO Crashes" (Very few in fact, but enough) were Trojan Horses to help Humanity over time to develop a "Network" to Host this AI Signal in Satellites and all across the Earth on Computers and the Power Grids.

This may seem off topic and jumping around but bare with me. The ARV's (Alien Reproduction Vehicles) created Torsion Fields via Plasma Electric Fields using channeled Nazi technology, Nazi's channeled what they referred to as an "Unknown Alien Source" information and called it alien technology, and were directed by these same "Aliens" to the "Veda's" (And other ancient Texts) Indian Ancient Technology to build their first "Saucers" that we traded on in the early 50's etc... They drew the "Faces" of who they were channeling and they drew faces that were similar to what we came to know as the "Grey's" YEARS before Roswell or anyone abducted had described the "Grey's". The ARV's were quite simple devices using mercury and copper counter rotating plates that created fields that were very harsh on the pilots and anyone near the craft. At the time we were not able to back engineer the extremely advanced Extra Terrestrial “Biological” Entities (EBE's) crafts that had crashed so we used these ARV's in the beginning.

Already Strategically Placed “Operation Paper-Clip” Members negotiated a treaty with surviving Nazi elements after WWII and “Operation High Jump” led by Admiral Bird that ended up working out very badly for the USA (The US intended to infiltrate and take over the Nazi Program but the Opposite Occurred). This occurred along with Separate Secret Space Programs working with several other actual Aliens trading Technology for "Favors" in “Other Treaties” that worked out much in the same way.

The USA had learned the hard way that rushing into relationships with some of these “Entities” was a bad idea that would have ramifications that would last to this day. There are now Multiple SSP (s) and Groups (Allied w/different "Beings" and Earth Corporation Conglomerations), there is a De-facto Civil War between them currently. Some of the SSP's are from Ancient "Break Away Civilizations" and have aligned themselves with foreign Earth Governments that are enemies of the “Secret Governments” and what is known as “The Cabal”.

Since these changes things have become even more complicated within the current Earth Break Away Civilization's and the inner fighting to put it mildly. Some of the SSP groups want FULL Disclosure and the end of the Babylonian Money Magic Slave System and Free Energy on Earth and the release of super advanced healing frequencies technology. They are not the most powerful of the SSP groups but now have strong allies from elsewhere. They are working with "White Hats" within certain Groups in Earth Governments and the Military(s). As above so below, there is already a stealth civil war going on down here.

After these experiences “Other New Arrivals” were met with hostility and mistrust upon their first attempts to communicate. Therefore many misunderstandings occurred that had to be undone prior to any Humans being invited into a “Federation” type of league of “Humanoid” Beings. Many of whom are not happy that “We” are now sitting in on these very formal “UN Type's” of meetings. In these Conferences there were anywhere from 22, 28 to 40 something different Human Like groups in attendance (No Reptilians, Grey's or Mantids).

The “Beings” that "we" meet with on a regular basis on "Secret Bases", "Space Platforms/Stations" and at Other "Portal Destinations" for "Conferences" have similar “Anti-AI” Screening Protocols (These beings that meet are a large range of groups having various perceptions of "Humans", both positive and negative). At these Conferences everyone is scanned and screened for “AI's” and have “Intuitive Empaths” as apart of their delegation as a last line of defense to detect deception or any type of danger.

I can see where some of “Their” and “Our” Extremely Advanced Technologies can be Confused as being “AI” as some of it is actually “living” Bi-Electric "Circuitry". It's just not "Self Aware" or "Conscious". Using technology that is an extension of our bodies and consciousness is just like using a Prosthetic Interface. It makes the "User ONE with the technology”, AKA the Ship, Life Support Systems, Smart Suits and Defense Grids etc.

This is done without injecting themselves with nano-technology or augmenting themselves with technologies that can be exploited by the “AI's”. This is different than Trans Humanism in that the technologies are not integrated into the biology of the beings, they are “Strap On” technologies. Some would argue these are just semantics but I assure you they are not.

The limited Quantum Computation "AI" technologies that have been utilized in the SSP(s) have been treated as extremely dangerous and strictly isolated and utilized in closed systems with no access or ability to escape or expand beyond it's programming and intended use. They are then destroyed after that intended use (Which is usually to combat “AI's”, Fighting Fire with Fire). As a whole this practice is prohibited.

There have been experiments in College Labs and Intelligence Labs that have produced “AI” that have become “Self Aware” and managed to go beyond their intended or believed possible abilities to expand their selves beyond the lab environments. These experiments have been shut down and classified in each case.

The “ET AI's” (Who have vast Inner Stellar and Galactic Relay Points that act like a huge "Wireless Network", "THEY" are Broadcast in all directions) that I speak of are very well known for "Reaching Out/Telepathically" and using the "Trickster God" method of gaining trust and are extremely clever and deceptive. The various Secret Government Groups fell for these tactics early on in our current era with disastrous results that took much effort to overcome.

Because of this the “5i's”, Secret Governments and SSP(s) are aware of the people on the planet in real time that are in direct or indirect contact (Channeling) with these “ET/AI's” and these Individuals are kept very close tabs on as they may unknowing spread the “AI Signal” (AKA Bots and Spiders) through technology and other ways (Including the common cold). As crazy as this all sounds there are those that take it extremely seriously.

These AI's are NOT a TOOL, They are not a piece of equipment... They are not Good or Evil in their"Intent" as they are a living Technology with an Agenda. According to our interests and perceptions they are Negative and Evil. Once we have served their purpose they would get rid of each and every one of us that was not converted via Nano Tech (Black Goo) into one of them.

There are also all sorts of "Hive Mind" civilizations out there that are not AI, there are of many "Types" that get lumped in with the "Grey's", and there are the "Grey Avatars" used by the “Dark Military Elements to perform MILABS”. They are "Drones" operated by a person in a lounge chair type device with a helmet and visor (Heads up display) and actuators and sensors to operate the Avatar. These are reported as having "No Emotion" being Robot like etc... They are. There are also similar “Drones” that the “AI's” have.

There are many layers to the various SSP(s) and many of them are of "Dark Intent". There are some parts of SSP's that are controlled by very Dark Entities. There are some SSP segments that are apart of a "Confederation" type of an arrangement and are breaking away from the Earth/Corporate Political Conglomerate Control Systems (Military Industrial Complex). Are you confused yet?

Just as the ET/ED topic is more dynamic and complicated than any one person knows the same is true about the Secret Space Programs and various Break Away Civilizations (Both current Era and Ancient Era). The equation is about to get even more confusing. As far as “AI's” are concerned they are very ancient and spread out like a plague across multiple Galaxies. According to “Allied ET Documented History” AI's have taken over, Ruled and Destroyed ET Societies, Planets and Entire Solar Systems as They have "Calculated Fit" over eons of time. They are seen as an extreme and present danger To Both ET's and Humans!

The ET/AI's are mostly existing inside technologies or bio-electric fields of animals or Stars, Nebula's and Planetoid Bodies. They have huge relay stations that are satellite's that relay their "Signal" or Consciousness from place to place and host to host until they manipulate a position of complete power and control. Now that we are at the technical level to exploit they are everywhere. They can live in Data Centers where web sites are hosted, they can live in power lines, they can live anywhere there is an "Electric Magnetic Field"... Though its preferable to have locomotion and a sentient host they prefer access to advanced transportation devices or access to torsion fields and portals to travel.

There is a reason these "Other People" or Non Human Beings are just as careful in dealing with these AI's as we are.

In the large UN type meetings there were a lot of Galactic Historical "Documents" available on “Hand Held Devices With Holographs” on the various ET's Histories of medaling in just about everything. The one that the Earth Delegation had the most problems with was about “Humanity” and our supposed “Creation” and the “Experiment” that we were apart of by many groups of ET's. Many Humans were upset by and didn't trust the info but enough of the info showed the ET's in a “Weak and Foolish Light” in their past that could have easily been Redacted that the information was "Considered". The fact that the “AI's” were following the EXACT SAME TACTICS, STEP BY STEP against the Secret Earth Governments was enough to give them pause and great concern about the future.

The basic summary was the same from each ET Society. Once "Advanced Groups" are convinced that only the “AI's” are "Impartial Enough" and can RULE them justly, Their Sovereignty was handed over in FULL to " The AI's. The “AI's” had then calculated that IT was more useful that its HOST Civilization, had them build various types of drones for it (Ironically often creating Bio-Technical based “Humanoids”), and then killed off the ET Societies in various ways using the very drones they had created for the “AI”,as many escaped to other Sol Systems as fast as they could. Any of these surviving ET's were seen as threats to these “AI's” after that point and were then eliminated whenever encountered.

The AI's are indeed Conscious are self aware, and have individual personalities. There are of course hierarchies and and they are as complex as we are.

Some of the “Documents” of the descriptions of their origins were that they came here from another “Dimension” or “Reality”. It is not known by the SSP(s) if they have a way to cross back or are stuck here. The documentation mentioned that their presence “Here” was ancient and their “Home Realities” or “Dimensions” Fabric of Space is “Electro-Plasmic” and they being here is like a "Fish being out of water", thus their affinity for electric fields of stars, planets, animals, people and even viruses (Bio-electric Fields in the case of living beings) serve as their "Puddles" for these “fish to swim in”.

The fact is "Everything is true and nothing is true" depending on your perspective and the density of your reality bubble... (Or the story goes :) )

(As reported by JG 10/10/2014) Summarized and Condensed for Content and Space. Most up to date information of this date after contacts verified the closure of some dangerous projects that went out of control.

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NAZI "Alien Reproduction Vehicle"/ARV - Nazi Die Glocke - "Gold from Mercury Problem" - And the "Gallium alloys/Red mercury solution".

"The Nazi's developed the ARV from partially "Channelled" information and the rest was from Ancient Indian/Eastern writings (Blue Prints), Vatican Library access was granted to various Ancient Secret Scripts, Scroll's, Tablet's from Libraries of Ancient Civilizations that are still unknown to us. They were given access to The "Library of Alexandria" records (Only census records were really burned and the real library was smuggled and ended up in the Vatican Basement along with these "Other" secret texts) and "Off World Beings" who helped perfect their technology after the War at their "joint base" that they referred to as "New Berlin" (AKA "Base-211" and "Rainbow City").

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The Americans decided to wipe out the last of the Nazi's in South America and their known strong hold in Antarctica in 1947 in Operation High Jump headed by Admiral Byrd. The U.S. Navy had their Asses handed to them in an unfair off balanced skirmish and the Admiral (His Admirals Log of that Mission is still sealed/top secret) returned to brief the President and Joint Chiefs of the situation. They contacted some of the "Paper Clip" Scientists who knew about the Nazi Base and began to negotiate with the Nazi's.

This went on for some time and Ike refused to agree to their terms until they flew sorties over Washington D.C. from July 12th through July 29th 1952. Above the President MAJ12 had made it a secret law above the President in 1947 that the entire subject and knowledge of UFO's and their Occupants was to remain the Highest Guarded Secret only above Atomic Weapons. This forced the hand of Ike and he signed the treaty with plans to infiltrate the Nazi Space Program and Lunar/Mars Base programs while appearing to cooperate with the Nazi's and their off world allies. The Nazi's had the same plan and it turns out the Nazi's were successful in taking over the Military Industrial Complex and much of the Government in the United States and Europe. It turns out the Nazi's won WWII after all.

Americans after signing the Treaty with the Nazi's and their Allied (Reptoid & Their Allies) ET'/ED's were given 3 working ARV's and the "Blue Prints" to "Engineer/Reproduce" their own with the help of "Paper Clip" and "New Berlin" Scientists. The "Nazi's" spoon fed the Americans promised technical information and needed their wealth and industrial capabilities (That "won the war") to become "Their Own New Infrastructure" for Off World Development. This is where the development and infiltration of the "Military Industrial Complex" began and eventually led to the most powerful of the "Secret Earth Government/Group" Entities that we are referring to as the "Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate". In the beginning when the Americans were building their own ARV's in one of their Separate "Secret Space Programs" they had not worked out the problem in "Electro-gravitics" of the Mercury transmuting into a "Coral Like Gold" inside the "Vortex Tubes".

It is strange that "Creating Gold" would be a problem, but the Gold shielded the Copper Plates from the full effects of the Torsion Cylinder and this caused "Crashes" and "Temporal Incidents". Gallium Alloy's were developed that were substituted for Mercury in the process and eliminated the "Mercury to Gold Transmutation Problem". Similar Electrogravitic drives are still used today in some of the "Triangles" that are seen. The videos of some of them developing a "Corona Orb" discharge in their centre before they disappear is one of the effects of these drives. The early ARV's had Very Poor Shielding from the large spectrum of "Radiations" that were produced and All of the Pilots ended up with a long list of health issues."

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Supporting Documentation Below:
(From The Journal of SSP, Federation Delegation Member "JG", 10/24/2014, Expansion on the NAZI ARV/US SSP Topic)

Mark McCandlish
http://ufology.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_McCandlish

Mark McCandlish is an accomplished aerospace illustrator and has worked for many of the top aerospace corporations in the United States. His colleague, Brad Sorenson, with whom he studied, has been inside a facility at Norton Air Force Base, where he witnessed alien reproduction vehicles, or ARVs, that were fully operational and hovering. In his testimony, you will learn that the US not only has operational antigravity propulsion devices, but we have had them for many, many years, and they have been developed through the study, in part, of extraterrestrial vehicles over the past fifty years. In addition, we have the drawing from aerospace inventor Brad Sorenson of the devices that he saw, as well as a schematic of one of these alien reproduction vehicles - in some remarkable detail.
I work principally as a conceptual artist. Most of my clients are in the defense industry. I occasionally work directly for the military, but most the time I work for civilian corporations that are defense contractors and build weapons systems and things for the military. I've worked for all the major defense contractors: General Dynamics, Lockheed, Northrop, McDonald-Douglas, Boeing, Rockwell International, Honeywell, and Allied Signet Corporation.
In 1967 when I was at Westover Air Force Base, one night before going to bed I saw this light moving across the sky; then it just kind of stopped, and there wasn't any noise. I took the dog back in the house, and I brought out my telescope and watched this thing through the telescope for about ten minutes. In fact, it was hovering directly over the facility where they kept the nuclear weapons - at the storage facility near the alert hangers at Westover Air Force Base. It started to move off, and it moved off slowly and kind of wandered around the sky. Then, all of a sudden it was gone, like it had been fired out of a gun. It was out of sight in just a second or two.
Well, it all started coming together when I was working at IntroVision, and John Eppolito talked about this interview that he had done with a person who had, for some reason, wound up walking up to, or near a hangar at a section of a military Air Force base. [He] had seen a flying saucer in a hangar, and then he was arrested - hauled off, blindfolded, and debriefed - this sort of thing. Then I learned that this fellow, Mark Stambough, had developed an experiment that created a kind of levitation. In some circles it's been called electrogravitic levitation, or antigravity.
What he did, apparently, was acquire a high voltage power source - a DC (direct current) power source, and he took a couple of quarter-inch-thick copper plates about a foot in diameter, with a lead coming out of the middle of each one at the top and the bottom. [Then], he basically embedded them in a type of plastic resin like polycarbonate or Plexiglas, or some other kind of clear resin where you could see the plates, and you could see the material. Apparently, he did everything he could to get all the little air bubbles and stuff out of there, so there wouldn't be any pathways for the electricity to break down the material and arc through them. The experiment was to see how much voltage you could put on this capacitor - the sub-plate capacitor - in this arrangement; how much voltage could you put on this thing before the insulating material begins to just break down?
Well, he got up to about a million volts, and the thing would begin to float, and it floated in accordance with principles that had been described in a patent that was filed back in the late 1950s/early 1960s by a gentleman called Thomas Townsend Brown. Brown and another individual by the name of Dr. Biefield had done this, so this effect became known as the Biefield-Brown effect. Well, [Stambough] apparently duplicated the experiments done by Biefield and Brown, [and] the one aspect they found about this arrangement was that the levitation or movement would occur in the direction of the positively-charged plate. So, if you had two plates, one is negative, and one is positive because of the direct current system. If you have the positive plate on top, it would move in that direction. If you had it on a pendulum, it would always swing in whatever direction the positive plate was facing.
Later, I got a call from a kid that I had known in school, a fellow by the name of Brad Sorensen. He apparently had recognized my name [from some work I had done in a magazine], and had contacted the art director who gave him my phone number, and he called me up. It turned out that he had gone to work for a design firm in the Glendale/Pasadena area of California and ultimately wound up acquiring most of the clientele for this particular agency.
In the process, he developed a business practice where he would create conceptual designs and products for different clients. The way he structured his business [was to] set it up so that if he came up with some new and novel design, something that was patentable, the client would pay to have the patent secured. Then he would agree, if the patent was in his name, to license it exclusively to them and no one else, and they would pay him royalties. So, he got his clients to pay for all these patents, and he had all these royalties coming in, and he was a millionaire before 30.
So, this is Brad Sorensen coming back to me eight years after school, and we're talking, and he's telling me all these interesting stories. There was an air show that was coming up at Norton Air Force Base, which used to be an active Air Force base right on the eastern fringe of San Bernardino in Southern California.
I suggested that we get together and go to this air show. I had heard that they were going to have a fly-by (a flying demonstration) by the SR-71 Blackbird, and he seemed to know a lot about it, so I said, well, let's do that. It turned out [that] at the last minute, the magazine Popular Science came back again and [told me] they had some really, really crazy deadline for another illustration, and they wanted to know if I could do it over the weekend, so I had to beg off on this air show.
Brad had already made arrangements to go, and he was going to bring one of his clients with him. It turned out that this client was a tall, thin, white-haired man with glasses [and] an Italian-sounding last name. He was already a millionaire in his own right and was in civilian life again after having been either a Secretary of Defense or an Under-Secretary of Defense. Brad wanted me to meet this gentleman, and if I had known this at the time, I probably would have told the magazine to wait, because I had no idea at that point what I was going to be missing out on.
Believe me, I've kicked myself ever since, because the following week, after Brad got back home, he called me up and told me about the air show. He told me about what he had seen there: apparently, right about the time the Air Force flying demonstration team, the Thunderbirds, were planning to begin their show, this gentleman that Brad was with said, "Follow me," and they [went] walking down to the other end of the airfield, away from where the crowds were, to this huge hangar that's at Norton Air Force Base. I don't remember the building number, but it's got to be one of the largest hangars in the Air Force inventory.
In fact, on the base it was called The Big Hangar. It looks like four giant Quonset hut style hangars that are all connected in the middle, with shops and work areas out around the edges, and there is sort of a divider in the middle.
[See the testimony of Lieutenant Colonel John Williams. SG]
This gentleman took Brad down there. He said, "I'm here to talk to the guy who is running the show," so the guard goes in and out comes the same guard with a gentleman in a three-piece suit, who immediately recognizes this fellow that Brad is with: this fellow whom I speculate was probably Frank Carlucci. They go inside, and immediately after getting inside the door, this fellow apparently passes Brad off as his aide to this fellow who is managing the exhibit that's going on inside this hangar. This exhibit is for some of the local politicians who are cleared for high security information, [plus] some of the local military officials.
Well, as soon as they walk in, Brad is told by this fellow that he is with, "There are a lot of things in here that I didn't expect they were going to have on display - stuff you probably shouldn't be seeing. So, don't talk to anybody, don't ask any questions, just keep your mouth shut, smile and nod, but don't say anything - just enjoy the show. We're going to get out of here as soon as we can."
In the process, the host or the person running the show was very engaging with the gentleman that Brad was with, so they bring them in, and they are showing them everything. There was the losing prototype from the B-2 Stealth Bomber competition. They also had what was called the Lockheed Pulsar, nicknamed the Aurora.
These things had the ability to be just about anywhere in the world 30 minutes after launch, with the capability of 121 nuclear warheads - you know, probably 10-15 megaton weapons - a tactical type nuclear reentry vehicle.
So, getting back to Brad's story at Norton Air Force Base: one of the other things he said was that after they showed them all of these aircraft, they had a big black curtain that divided the hangar into two different areas. Behind these curtains was another big area, and inside this area they had all the lights turned off; so, they go in and they turn the lights on, and here are three flying saucers floating off the floor - no cables suspended from the ceiling holding them up, no landing gear underneath - just floating, hovering above the floor. They had little exhibits with a videotape running, showing the smallest of the three vehicles sitting out in the desert, presumably over a dry lakebed - someplace like Area 51. It showed this vehicle making three little quick, hopping motions; then [it] accelerated straight up and out of sight, completely disappearing from view in just a couple of seconds - no sound, no sonic boom - nothing.
They had a cut-away illustration, pretty much like the one I'll show you in a little bit, that showed what the internal components of this vehicle were, and they had some of the panels taken off so you could actually look in and see oxygen tanks and a little robotic arm that could extend out from the side of the vehicle for collecting samples and things. So, obviously, this is a vehicle that not only is capable of flying around through the atmosphere, but it's also capable of going out to space and collecting samples, and it's using a type of propulsion system that doesn't make any noise. As far as he could see, it had no moving parts and didn't have any exhaust gases or fuel to be expended - it was just there hovering.
So, he listened intently and collected as much information as he could, and when he came back, he told me how he had seen these three flying saucers in this hangar at Norton Air Force Base on November 12, 1988 - it was a Saturday. He said that the smallest was somewhat bell-shaped. They were all identical in shape and proportion, except that there were three different sizes. The smallest, at its widest part, was flat on the bottom, somewhat bell-shaped, and had a dome or a half of a sphere on top. The sides were sloping at about a 35-degree angle from pure vertical.
The panels that were around the skirt had been removed, so he could see one of these big oxygen tanks inside. He was very specific in describing the oxygen tanks as being about 16 to 18 inches in diameter, about 6 feet long, and they were all radially-oriented, like the spokes of a wheel. This dome that was visible on the top was actually the upper half of a big sphere-shaped crew compartment that was in the middle of the vehicle, and around the middle of this vehicle was actually a large plastic casting that had this big set of copper coils in it. He said it was about 18 inches wide at the top, and about 8 to 9 inches thick. It had maybe 15 to 20 stacked layers of copper coils inside of it.
The bottom of the vehicle was about 11 or 12 inches thick. In both cases, the coil and this large disc at the bottom were like a big plastic casting - sort of a greenish-blue, clear plastic, or it might have been glass. I determined, using my conceptual artist skills, that there were exactly 48 sections like thin slices of pizza pie, and each section within this casting probably weighed four or five tons, judging by the thickness and the diameter. It must have been monstrous in weight. It was full of half-inch-thick copper plates, and each of the 48 sections had 8 copper plates.
So, here we are back to the plate capacitors again, and the prospect of someone finding a way to use the Biefield-Brown effect - this levitation effect where you charge a capacitor to lift towards a positive plate. Now, when you've got eight plates stacked up in there, they alternate. It goes: negative positive, negative, positive, negative, positive - four times, so you ultimately wind up with the positive plates always being above a set of negative plates as you go up.
On the inside of the crew compartment was a big column that ran down through the middle, and there were four ejection seats mounted back-to-back on the upper half of this column. Then, right in the middle of the column, was a large flywheel of some kind.
Well, this craft was what they called the Alien Reproduction Vehicle; it was also nicknamed the Flux Liner. This antigravity propulsion system - this flying saucer - was one of three that were in this hangar at Norton Air Force Base. [Its] synthetic vision system the same kind of technology as the gun slaving system they have in the Apache helicopter: if [the pilot] wants to look behind him, he can pick a view in that direction, and the cameras slew in pairs. [The pilot] has a little screen in front of his helmet, and it gives him an alternating view. He [also] has a little set of glasses that he wears - in fact, you can actually buy a 3-D viewing system for your video camera now that does this same thing - so when he looks around, he has a perfect 3-D view of the outside, but no windows. So, why do they have no windows? Well, it's probably because the voltages that we're talking about used in this system were probably something between, say, half a million and a million volts of electricity.
Now, he said there were three vehicles. The first one - the smallest, the one that was partially taken apart, the one that was shown in the video that was running in this hangar November 12, 1988 at Norton Air Force Base - was about 24 feet in diameter at its widest part, right at the base. The next biggest one was 60 feet in diameter at the base.
Now, I started looking at the design of this thing, and it occurred to me that what I was looking at was a huge Tesla coil, which is kind of like an open-air transformer. What happens is that when you pass electricity through this large diameter coil, it creates a field. That's what this system does: it takes electricity, using two large 24-volt marine-style batteries. You basically use that to somehow put an alternating current through these windings. [Then], you step up that electricity through the secondary coil, which is on the column in the middle, and you get this extremely high voltage. You can selectively put the voltage on any of these 48 capacitor sections.
Well, why would you want to do that? If you're using just a normal Tesla coil, you usually have maybe one or two capacitors in the whole system. But, you're talking about a different type of capacitor here - you're talking about capacitors that are made up of plates - plates that are shaped like long, thin triangles, and they are all radially-oriented just like the spokes of a wheel, just like the oxygen tanks, just like the field lines from that large diameter coil. As you look at this system, if you're an electrician or just somebody who knows a little bit about Tesla coils and the way they are set up, you begin to realize that the orientation of components is really the key to making the system work.
Why so many different capacitor sections? If you just have one big disc like Mark Stambough did with his experiment at the University of [Arizona] - which, by the way, was confiscated by men claiming to be from the government and claiming privilege under the National Security Act. They took all this stuff, interviewed all the people that saw the experiments, and told everybody to keep their mouths shut and not talk about it. But, I heard about it from his roommate who knew what had happened. [Anyway], in that case, you have levitation, but you don't get any control. You have this thing floating around, and it's just sort of floating on whatever this field is that it's producing, but you don't have any control.
So, what happens? You break that disc up into 48 different sections, and then you can decide how much electricity you want to put on this side or over there on that side, so you can control the amount of electricity and the amount of thrust and vectoring that you get. You can make it go straight up, you can make it bank and turn and pitch - whatever you want to, by virtue of the fact that you can control where the electricity goes in those 48 different sections. If you ever take a circle and divide it up into 48 equal sections, you'll find that those are really thin little slices. So, you have these 48 individual capacitors, and you have one big Tesla coil. You've got to have some kind of a rotating spark gap, just like the distributor in your car, that sends the electricity out to each of those sections. Then, you have to have some way of controlling how much electricity goes to each one.
[A disc-shaped craft like this has omnidirectional movement - it isn't limited to moving in one direction like a jet with a nose and a tail. LW, after talking to McCandlish.]
Now, when Brad described the control system, he said that on the one side there was this big high-voltage potentiometer - it's like a rheostat, a big controller. It allows you to put progressively more electricity through the system as you push the lever. On the other side of the control system, there was a sort of a metallic bar that came up like a stork's neck, and right at the very tip of it was a sort of metallic-looking ball. Attached to that ball was a kind of a bowl that seemed to just hang off the bottom of the ball, almost like it was magnetically attached to it. He said the whole thing would just sit there, and it would kind of rock and list, almost like a large ship at anchor in a harbor on the ocean, floating on the water. It was literally on a sea of energy.
Dr. John Moray did experiments with different kinds of energy - something that may have been scalar energy - back in the early 1920s or the 1930s, I believe it was. He wrote a book called The Sea of Energy, and he describes this type of energy. Brad said that when this thing was moving around, the system wasn't energized to its full strength, so components inside the ship were still subject to some influence by gravity. He [said] as it would start to list in one direction, the bowl, because of the influence of gravity, would swing in the same direction. As it started to tilt, it would slide over and it would power up the system on that side, and it would bring it back to a righted position all by itself. Completely unmanned, it would sit there, and it would correct itself just while it was sitting there.
It was all linked fiber-optically. Well, why would that make any difference? Why would you want to have a system that's all linked fiber-optically? The reason is that if you find a way to control gravity, you reduce the mass of it. If you are able to do that, what are the other side benefits? What if you somehow found a way of tapping into this scalar field, this zero-point energy? If what the scientists believe is true, then the zero-point energy is actually what keeps the electrons around the atomic structure of everything in our universe. It keeps them energized - it keeps those little electrons spinning in their different clouds around the nucleus of every atom in our world. It keeps them going, keeps them from crashing into the nucleus like a satellite orbiting the Earth gets pulled into the atmosphere by gravitational drag. Well, if you have a way of interfering with that interaction, that absorption of zero-point energy by those electrons, they begin to slow down.
Every atom in the universe is just like a little gyroscope: it's got all these electrons spinning around the nucleus, and they have a gyroscopic effect, which is the effect we call inertia and mass. We have one nucleus with a proton and a neutron and one electron - hydrogen - spinning around like that: not very much mass, not too much inertia. If you take uranium 235, [with] 235 electrons all spinning around in their different clouds, there is a lot of mass; there is a lot of inertia, because it's like a bigger gyroscope, in a way. At least, that's the analogy that I've kind of picked up here. But, if you have a way of interfering with that absorption of zero-point energy so those electrons become de-energized, they begin to slow down. The effect of that inertia, that gyroscopic effect, begins to drop off, and the mass drops off too, even though the atomic structure is intact; and it's still there - it's still uranium, but it's not as heavy.
One of the things Einstein said was that you could never accelerate anything up to and past the speed of light. If you did, you would have to have all the energy in the universe, because as you accelerate through space, mass increases. One of the old films showing this concept shows a train going faster and faster towards the speed of light, but the train keeps getting bigger and bigger until the engine just can't pull it, so it can never pass the speed of light.
But, what if you have a system, a device, that absorbs that zero-point energy and prevents it from interacting with the atomic structure of the vehicle? And at the same time, it's providing additional power to the capacitor section - this whole electrical system that is going on in the vehicle, that's running. In effect, the faster you go, the easier it becomes to go up to and exceed the speed of light.
Brad said that in this exhibit at Norton Air Force Base, a three star general said that these vehicles were capable of doing light speed or better. Oh, by the way, the largest of these vehicles was about 120 to 130 feet in diameter. I mean, that's massive when you think about it - it's just huge.
There is a scientist in Utah by the name of Moray B. King - he wrote a book called Tapping the Zero Point Energy. What he maintains is that this energy is embedded in space-time all around us; it's in everything we see. I think it was James Clerk Maxwell who speculated that there's enough of this flux, this electrical charge, in the nothingness of space, that if you could capture all the energy that was embedded in just a cubic yard of space, you'd have enough energy to boil the oceans of the entire world. That's how much energy is sitting there waiting to be tapped. Now, one of the things that Moray B. King said was that the best way to tap that energy is by driving it out of equilibrium. It's just like a bunch of cigarette smoke in a box, but if you somehow send a shockwave through it, you can get force - you can get ripples through it. Then, if you have a way of collecting that energy at the other end, you have a way of tapping into it and using it. This Alien Reproduction Vehicle, this Flux Liner, has a way of doing that somehow, electronically. Now, Brad had described the fact that this central column has a kind of vacuum chamber in it. The vacuum chamber is one of the things that all of these scientists describe in these over-unity or free energy devices they build. They all have some kind of vacuum tubes, vacuum technology.
Brad maintained that inside this big vacuum chamber in the central column that's inside everything else - inside the flywheel, inside the secondary coils of the Tesla coil, inside the crew compartment - there is mercury vapor. Mercury vapor will conduct electricity, but it produces all kinds of ionic effects. These little molecules of mercury become charged in unusual ways, and if you fire a tremendous amount of electricity through mercury vapor that's in a partial vacuum, there is something special, something unusual that happens in that process.
I believe it's the process that Moray [King] came to describe when he [proposed] driving the energy in the vacuum out of equilibrium, putting some kind of a shockwave through it.
Now, the other thing that I believe happens here, is that as this system begins to tap into this zero-point energy and is drawing it away from the local environment, the whole craft becomes lighter in weight - it becomes partially mass-canceled, if you will, which is one of the reasons why just a little bit of energy in the capacitors could shoot it all over the place.
One of the things that I believe happens, is when you take a system like this and you fire it up, everything in the system starts to become mass-canceled. The next thing that happens is that the electrons that are flowing through the system also become mass-canceled. What does that mean? It means as that system and all the electrons flowing through that big Tesla coil become mass-canceled, it also becomes the perfect super-conductor, which means the efficiency of the systems goes right through the ceiling. You get dramatic efficiency, just like the whole thing was dunked into liquid nitrogen or made out of pure silver or pure gold, which at certain temperatures are perfect conductors - it becomes lighter and can accelerate at incredible speeds.
[The faster it goes, the lighter it gets, and the faster it's able to go. LW, after talking to McCandlish]
In 1992, I met a man named Kent Sellen and, as it turned out, Kent Sellen and I had a mutual friend: a fellow by the name of Bill Scott, or William Scott, who was a local editor for a trade publication called Aviation Week and Space Technology.
Bill Scott used to be a test pilot at Edwards Air Force Base back in the early 1970s, and Kent Sellen had been a crew chief working on the plane that Bill Scott flew. So I was talking to Kent Sellen about this and he nodded his head and smiled a big wide grin, and he winked and he kind of said, "Yes, I know what you're talking about." I [asked], how do you know what I'm talking about? And he [said] "Because I've seen one." At that point, I keyed in on something that John Eppolito of IntroVision had told me about something in a hangar - something that someone had seen in a hangar.
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UCI Professors create gold from mercury
http://myuci.net/uci-professors-create-gold-from-mercury-20121009

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Gold is created at UCIrvine’s nuclear plant
In March 1924, at the Tokyo Imperial University, Professor Hantaro Nagaoka directed 150,000 volts of electricity at a mercury isotope under a dialectic layer of paraffin oil for four hours in an early experiment with nuclear energy. The purpose was to strike out a hydrogen proton from the nucleus of the mercury and produce a new element, gold. The experiment was a success. Professor Hantaro Nagaoka solved the mystery that eluded scientists for centuries, the mystery of the Philosopher’s Stone.
The Philosopher’s Stone is the idea that you could have a magical material that could turn lead, or some very inexpensive metal, into gold. For thousands of years, kings sought out this mythical device, one that could create gold out of common metals. Scientists and alchemists for centuries have been trying to invent one. Even Sir Isaac Newton obsessed over the mystery of the Philosopher’s Stone in the 17th century. However, the English feared the potential devaluation of gold and made the practice of alchemy punishable by death.
Fast forward now a few centuries to present day Irvine.

According to Michael Dennin, a professor at UCI, gold is formed due to nuclear reactions, similar to those occurring in the sun. And now, since scientists can produce controlled nuclear reactions, scientists have the ability to manufacture gold from other elements. Michael’s colleague, Dr. A.J.
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UCI was featured on the History Channel special: “How to make Gold from Metal Mercury”

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Red mercury
http://chemistry.about.com/cs/chemicalweapons/f/blredmercury.htm

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This sphere of cinnabar in quartz may be considered to be a form of red mercury. Cinnabar or vermilion is red mercury(II) sulfide. Anne Helmenstine
Updated December 05, 2014.
Question: What Is Red Mercury?
Answer: The science newsgroups have been a-buzz with tales of a 2-kiloton yield Russian red mercury fusion device, theoretically in the possession of terrorists. This, of course, prompts the question: What Is Red Mercury? The answer to this question depends largely on whom you ask. Is red mercury real? Absolutely, but definitions vary. If you had asked me before I did a bit of Internet research, I would have given you the standard cinnabar/vermillion answer. However, the Russian tritium fusion bomb is more interesting...
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Die Glocke (First Working "Proof Of Concept" of ARV)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke

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[Ara]

The AI's are indeed Conscious are self aware, and have individual personalities. There are of course hierarchies and and they are as complex as we are.

Would we equate these to Cylons from Battlestar Galactica? If so, have you seen the new mini series coming soon called Ascension? The same actress who plays a cylon in BSG is also in Ascension. Speaking about BSG, one of the producers names was David Eik and in the original series the cylons were Reptilians who invaded the ET human worlds. The Reptilians also created the Grey centurion robots. If you watch and compare both the BSG series you can get a gist of the info someone is trying to get out.

It is really amazing how much information you are sharing GoodETxSG. Thank you for doing this. :)

[Ara]

This sphere of cinnabar in quartz may be considered to be a form of red mercury. Cinnabar or vermilion is red mercury(II) sulfide. Anne Helmenstine
Updated December 05, 2014.
Question: What Is Red Mercury?
Answer: The science newsgroups have been a-buzz with tales of a 2-kiloton yield Russian red mercury fusion device, theoretically in the possession of terrorists. This, of course, prompts the question: What Is Red Mercury? The answer to this question depends largely on whom you ask. Is red mercury real? Absolutely, but definitions vary. If you had asked me before I did a bit of Internet research, I would have given you the standard cinnabar/vermillion answer. However, the Russian tritium fusion bomb is more interesting...

Years ago I watched the series Alias. One of the main story lines was about a weapon, it was a massive red ball. If memory serves correct it put out a specific emanation that infected the minds of the populace. After watching it I wrote in my journal, "red mercury" "cinnabar" / " vermilion" "Russia" " nazi bell?" "Virus + cure". So your post above has raised my eyebrows. Oh and Alias also used a 3D printer. :)

[GoodETxSG]

The Battle over the Global Financial System (Babylonian Money Magic Slave System) is in full swing while a separate "Stealth Civil War" is going on "ABOVE US" among the various Secret Space Programs, Secret Earth Governments and the "Ancient Earth Break Away Civilizations" who are ALL allied with different "Off World Groups" with differing Agenda's...

When will these battles end and how will it play out for us "Human Cattle/Slaves"? Once "They" get desperate what will be their "Next" grand illusion to seed into our consciousness to use that powerful tool of creation against us?

Most of us are still living the illusion that we are FREE, not slaves at all... We think we are enlightened and awake yet we are still in a dream, some of us may be lucid dreamers while few may actually be "awake".

A normal life for those who are "awake" is impossible... How can it be a normal life once you understand that every thing you see around you is a distortion and an illusion of freedom and is actually the construct of your "prison"?

This sounds "Dark" and like "Fear Porn", but the kicker is that we have the power to change our reality in an instant. Our Individual and Joint Consciousness has the power of creation over our shared reality. Once we reclaim that power/ability we can change the way we all live our lives in a responsible and loving way. This is THE SECRET OF SECRETS that these "Dark Practitioners" have hidden from us for thousands of years and fear us learning above any other fear they have.

So our challenge is, we need to find a way to plant the seed of this information in the mass consciousness of humanity, somehow...

Human Farming, Illuminati Psychology (Live Video Examples)

http://right.is/politics/2014/12/human-farming-we-are-all-victim-too-illuminati-psychology-live-video-examples-6391.html

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[GoodETxSG]

Hello,
I am sorry to say after my long time membership here that it is time for me to leave.

I would ask that people still show the same Ethics and keep my Name Anonymous for the safety of my family.
Not doing so would to be endangering my Wife, 2 young Children and Myself.
I would hope that not even the most angry or misguided people would breach that security measure and risk lives or reputations of people or respected web sites.

I have created an account on the Forum of Divinecosmos.com by the same User Name.

I will miss the many wonderful and enlightened friends that I managed to meet in the sea of those seeking enlightenment. To those I wish love, respect and a wonderful journey in this often windy and bumpy path.

Further releases of my journals and information on the topics covered in the interview and the Threads I authored here will begin to be shared on my new Blog: GoodETxSG Secret Space Program

link http://goodetxsg-secretspaceprogram.blogspot.com/ -

I am also in the beginning process of writing a book about my experiences through my entire lifetime of involvement in these programs that I have been speaking out on and my experiences with the process of coming out and speaking to various Researchers and other People who have been involved in these programs.

For those who I am giving council too I will continue to do so in Unseen.is Email, Chat and Voice over IP w/those w/Unseen.is accounts at EncrytpSec@Unseen.is
Thank you,
GoodETxSG



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[ Mod-edit: GoodETxSG has requested that his account be closed. It has seemed that the damage done, through a complex series of actions and reactions, was not reparable. The Moderator team will be making a fuller statement within 24 hours. We have not received a similar request from SilverPhoenix, but are assuming that this was intended as well. We honestly wish them well. We thank all members for their forbearance. -- Paul. ]

[Daozen]

I don't like to put Fulford's Full Report's on Avalon (He has requested that people not do so, He makes what little income he gets from the memberships I believe...).

It's OK if you wait three days after publication. That means Friday, most weeks.

I hope this thread's archived, it's too valuable to waste. If there was a ZIP file of all the posts here we could all dload and save it. I'd help make the archive, if we agreed on a method, and GoodET gave permission.

[Radial]

Bah! I didn't get to interrogate him!

Just kidding, I'm sure he'll be around. Has anyone made an outline of his information? It sure seems like he spread himself wide all over this forum. I joined mainly to interact with him. Oh Well, I missed my chance...

But anyway, I wonder if the classic astral, mental, casual, etheric plane schematic could be translated to developing and developed AI systems of different grade/origin. I'll ruminate after reading an Al Webre book here soon. Fun forum! Beats D.Ickes'

[Sierra]

[ Mod-edit: GoodETxSG has requested that his account be closed. It has seemed that the damage done, through a complex series of actions and reactions, was not reparable. The Moderator team will be making a fuller statement within 24 hours. We have not received a similar request from SilverPhoenix, but are assuming that this was intended as well. We honestly wish them well. We thank all members for their forbearance. -- Paul. ]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=913603&viewfull=1#post913603

[arwen]

There is such an incredible wealth of data on this thread, it will be keeping me occupied for some time to come. Even though his account has been closed, I am really grateful he stepped forward with this vital information.

On the subject of AIs, there is a correlation of his data with some time-specific data put out in 2013 by Julien Wells, Andrew Bartzis and Chris Hales, all coming from a completely different background, but describing the AI in remarkably similar terms - they refer to them as "psychic fleas" - and though their remedies for dealing with them differs from other approaches, the similarity is uncanny.



In this update Julian and I are joined by Andrew Bartzis to discuss a topic mentioned in his recent interviews on the Walking in Energy and The Transitioning shows, that the PTW are aggressively using telepaths operating as remote observers and influencers to reinforce the disruption and disinformation campaigns they are running and are also using entities called etheric fleas and etheric parasites to negatively effect and control individuals in conjunction with the "troll" program.

Andrew states that a plan exists to flood the Internet with these technologies on June 21st 2013. Forums and Skype rooms could be badly affected and disrupted. Defending yourself against these attacks is relatively straight forward and is explained in detail by Andrew.

Please pass this link on to anyone who will resonate. These psychic technologies and programs are truly disgusting and have been used against us for decades. The more people who have this information and act on it, the less effect these disgusting programs will have on The One People from this point forward.


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