I have shame

[KaiLee]

Today, in Australia, I was standing in a welfare line (centrelink). A woman behind started to loudly state the issues. You know the issues. The incremental insistance on obedience, the increasing congruence of our personal information, the fact that we are being manipulated.
As I listened to her I watched the security guard move toward her. Foot by foot, with each truth telling, he moved closer to her. Making his threat palpable.

And i was too scared to stand with her.

All I could think was: they're gonna make u hungry and and homeless. All I could think was: if I say this woman is a truth teller, they're gonna make me hungry and homeless.

God help me: I think my only hope is to be let free.

Today I have shame.

[Natalia]

Well you have to think of your own health and well being as well, we can't always speak out and stand up for others (and ourselves) in public, I would have done the same thing as you knowing that speaking up in that situation would not make much positive difference anyway...just made the woman (perhaps) feel more supported, which is important but can't really risk not being allowed to get your benefits for...it was also the lady's choice to stand up for what she believed in...she chose to take that risk...(not saying that how they dealt with her was right). So maybe you did the best that you could do in that situation?...

[Becky]

At least you have awareness. Perhaps you were just meant to observe this situation and see and feel the energies there. This situation had a big impact on you - it will enable you to act with greater awareness and intent in your life now.

[Anchor]

Everything has a reason.

I find you had an instinctive desire to protect the individual speaking out. This is, even though apparently passive, a strong "service to others" disposition and intent.

Intent is very potent - your intent was that the other-self should not come to harm was it not?

You did not breach anyone's freewill.

Perhaps part of the shame is that the standard you are judging yourself by is the standard set by others and not your self? A mind set that says "what would xxxx think of me".

It doesn't actually matter what anyone else thinks as they are not competent to judge you - only you are; all others can do, like me, is offer opinion.

I have had similar situations. Do I intervene or not? What has usually worked out best for me is going with the flow and not listening to my ego driven will, but that one inside my heart.

I have at times ignored those inner messages, and I have too experienced shame of a high order.

However, in the end I find I learnt from the experience either way.

[gardener2]

KaiLee don't allow this to make you feel shame they are just using scare tactics, you are so much better than that. just remember this little bit of wisdom from the tao. " There is no greater illusion than fear, no greater wrong than to prepare to defend yourself, no greater misfortune than having an enemy. Whoever can see through all fear will always be safe. stay safe KaiLEE X

[citsym]

When your ready to intervene you will know.. Don't stress about this incident. Your higher soul will open the way for you and there wil be no doubt then,,,
Good on ya, for sharing.

[Sunny-side-up]

KaiLee Love ya ;)

You gave her energy support,
you felt the emotions of the moment and was on the right side!
You have the experience and when it's your time :wizard:
and you reported the event and your feelings here :)

[DarMar]

Today you felt power of their magick.
Most if not all of people are aware, i bet you are not only one in line who would stand with her but felt fear...

Today is fifth day i didn't eat. Im not afraid of that but i welcome that. Because when my body is not spending energy on food reprocess IT HEALS ITSELF.
So your fear has no basis for fear. Simply you don't know how it is on other side because of fear to try step into it It is like fearing a kiss..

Yes that is magic, they built walls so low willpowered won't ever cross it.. Since they feed of willpower, you didn't have enough to step onto her side.

You exercise willpower by: not standing in line, not conform, not pay, not slave work, not fear and all that you probably did until today.

Because you can not use empty batteries in ANY remote control..

[Operator]

Lots of good suggestions in previous posts. I also think that at least you were aware of the situation and that is a start.
Additionally I realized myself recently that, although I want to shout out my perception of truth to the world too, there
is the right time and place to do so. Perhaps this wasn't the case here.

There is a saying advising "to pick your fights wisely". Sometimes it is a waste of your energy. Wanting to fight the system
all the time and everywhere will wear you out eventually. Experience that I had to learn last couple of years :o

[Operator]

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God help me: I think my only hope is to be let free.
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You're not 'let' free, you have to free yourself.
Sometimes the magic is in the words ... "free and independent" they go together ;)

You may have felt fear because you were dependent on the place where this took place.

I am opposing/challenging the system more often recently. I even made a post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76401-Citizen-Pulls-Cop-Over-Gives-Warning.&p=894021&viewfull=1#post894021) about this a couple of days ago.
And something similar (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73959-For-Whom-the-Bell-Trolls&p=865987&viewfull=1#post865987) a while back ...

In hindsight I now realize what happened in cases where I stood up against the system: "I was not dependent at that moment" !

We always tend to be in a hurry or we're in a place where we are at the mercy of bureaucrats running it.
I know it is easier said than done but ... work on your independence, that will make you free !
(rather logical actually)

[Peace of Mind]

This is how the manipulators work. They induce fear into the mind, enough so that the mind is hesitant in reacting to what is actually hindering it. When you think your safety is threatened because you feel deep inside to rise up against injustice/inequality… then you are committed to the suffering, and willingly give up your power to the oppressors. In doing so…you can only feel like you don’t matter; your mind/ideas/efforts will become weak, then non-existent.

The cycle continues only because of delusions and years of disempowerment…. Just look around. People are quick to advise you to mind your own biz instead of motivating you to make this part of your biz (because it really is).
You could have easily given the person a “wink” and/or some kind of subtle encouragement, letting her know you were listening and agreed. That alone can go far, but no acknowledgement at all of what was being said will only show your lack of care and concern for our circumstances...on top of your obvious fear. This is where so many of us are blindly operating from. Not hard to tell at all once you look around. Scared people have never did anything but create more fear.

Life’s greatest advances and most memorable revolutions were started by a few brave individuals who had the guts to take control of their life, not letting life control them. The confused are always guided by their hearts; sometimes we need people like this to remind us that we are not alone in what we feel/see/hear/experience.

Our corrupt way of life is very dependent on selfishness, cowards, and ill informed people turning the other cheek while spreading deceit. Divide and Conquer has always been the most efficient tactic used against the masses. United we stand divided we fall. Don’t let others put ideas in your mind that will impede on your actions. Never fear the actions of others; fear is a weak emotion, it doesn’t even exist.
The only actions you should concern yourself with is your own, don’t let others think for you, especially, when they are showing no signs of a solution...but signs of despair and surrender.

You feel troubled because you are living in troubled times, and your subconscious/your essence wants to do what it was meant to do. Don’t hold back; trust in yourself and in your divinity. Be who you are and what you came here to do. Stop fighting yourself; it becomes easier when you follow your own intuitions instead of following others who are comfortable with what you’re not comfortable with. How can you find yourself and purpose in your life…if you’re using Google and social media to expose that for you? Trickery is everywhere, look closely and you’ll see where YOU’RE heading…be careful
And…being mindful is being careful. KaiLee, Your opportunities will soon rise again. It's your own choice on how you re-act upon that opportunity.

Peace

[sheme]

Shame is the original sin, so now we know you are human for sure- rejoice -you are not a soulless psychopath . You are one that chooses his/her own time/own way.

Life is all about timing.

[donk]

What good did she do? What could you have done? I think you should forgive yourself. It is a lesson, spouting the truth is worthless, if not transmitted in a way it can be received

meYMsri6VIU

I preach self love I know it's true/it's easier to say than do....

[birddog]

Please, have no shame. There are people who will be coming forward to express their opinions in a loud and disorderly way. This is to get them noticed, and this is their choice. This is not the way to change anything. It may be the way to incite a riot in the right circumstances, and there will be people 'planted' in certain situations for just that.

These are the people who will be targeted as trouble makers and anyone who stands with them may be attacked, arrested, or worse. One way to help them is to quietly encourage them to have patience, that all problems will be solved sooner if we just have patience... Then turn around and secretly send them love energy, that it may fill their aura, calm them, and hopefully, help them to be seen in a different light by others. Using peaceful resistance is the safest way for all.

[Milneman]

You also have food in your stomach and a roof over your head.

Choose your battles wisely.

[3(C)+me]

I think a lot of people are going some emotional house cleaning in their personal lives. Shame, guilt, anger, feeling very alone have come up for me usually it is triggered by some situation something someone said and it just floods me. It is almost always something that is similar to a past situation and I just react. I have learned not to push these feelings away but that has not been easy and I often fall back on some old behavior. I just got to forgive myself and see the reasons that these old pattern keeps on showing up. You are further along the path then you think. Hang in there.

[David Ansible]

What good did she do? What could you have done? I think you should forgive yourself. It is a lesson, spouting the truth is worthless, if not transmitted in a way it can be received

meYMsri6VIU

I preach self love I know it's true/it's easier to say than do....

If she had spoken up it would have put pressure on the security guard. Just a little, but still. It could have been a small voicing
of solidarity, you know?

Sometimes (not always) shame tells you how you should have behaved.

[David Ansible]

On the other hand, if you had a justified fear that your food/shelter would be taken away in that situation
then I agree that saying nothing was probably in order.

The other thing that saying something could have done, by the way, is to give strength to others who might
have been thinking the same thing.

Who knows. It is up to the individual and their conscience / assessment of the circumstances.

[KaiLee]

I think I'll do something different next time. The only, but still significant, value in standing by this woman would have been:-

Letting her know others see the truth too.
Letting the security guard know that telling the truth is not a crime.
Gauging just how many others standing in line also know the truth and by speaking up, informing each other that this open secret really must stop being a secret.

The ultimate truth of the matter is that if we want to stop being dictated to we must take full personal responsibility. This is where I'm stuck. Reliance on the money system is all encompassing.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

God bless you kailee.

Sometimes he brings angels into our lives when we are at our personal lows.

i lived in the streets for a few months in seattle (well a shelter) and heard similar things being said at times.
but i must say americans have less courage right now than your people do.

we don't seem to have the voice we're famous for anymore.

bless you and i hope your situation improves.


remember Fahrenheit 451 if you've read it, even when homeless and penniless we can be rich as kings,
because we are the only surviving memory of what was beautiful before things fell apart.

don't be afraid.

[sandy]

Dear Kailee,

It would be nice of me to placate you and sooth your shame but then what would you learn. If you were being nudged to do what you indicate was the right thing and instead acquiesed to fear and did nothing, then the Shame comes from not respecting and honouring your moral self............IMHO that may be the lesson. Each time I honour and respect my moral self I gain strength and courage for the new lessons coming and let me say there are always lessons on the horizon. :)

By the way, if you had followed your inner nudge and stood with this women there may have been a Domino effect created and then what was one security guard or two going to do with a room full of people admonishing the system versus one!! Could have been a very adventurous and entertaining time................:flame:

[Operator]

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By the way, if you had followed your inner nudge and stood with this women there may have been a Domino effect created and then what was one security guard or two going to do with a room full of people admonishing the system versus one!! Could have been a very adventurous and entertaining time................:flame:

Here's the kicker ... the security guards are human too (at least, let's assume they are ;) :p)
If you speak to them as one human being to another you may get astonishing results. Make them aware of that,
address them explicitly as human. Don't forget they are IN the same system as you are. They may not even like
to apply the rules but on their turn they have fear of losing their job if they don't. You see, this whole system is
fear driven. Everybody has a role in it. Break out of that role !

[Rollo]

This night I was participating in town patron's days. There was a scene organised for live performances and music groups.
I was in the crowd with my friend and beside us was a group of young men not respecting the people around them by aggressive dance and uncontrolled moves.
Just looking at them I knew something will happen. I didn't wait long that one man from the crowd was hit by one of them and he simply said to be more careful.
They didn't like it at all and approached closer to start the fight with him and his friend. In the situations like this I know crowd reaction is very predictable.
People were just looking at the fight and for many reasons didn't want to react. It was unfair fight, at least four or five men against two, where one of them was already on the ground.

More of the young men started to join the fight and I got the feeling that something needs to be done.

I saw new guy coming to join the others and I step in from the crowd and punched him strongly, what resulted in total shock and stopped him to move farther.
Then others from the crowd started to join and separate the fighting group. All was over soon and people got back to dance and enjoyed the rest of the night.

Do I have shame, no. I did something, maybe not the best solution but I just had the thought, what if it was me on the ground.
I would love to see people reacting and preventing the attack.

We hear a lot about situations like this in the metro, bus or train where people stay on their places and don't react when some aggressive folk do what he please.
In such circumstances we are paralyzed by fear or other reasons. But we can loose much more as a human collective than gain by behaving this way.
We should be aware more of our power when we are staying united.

I wonder if not reacting is something more deeper, maybe programmed in us and unconscious than just fear.
We are used to accepting so many bad things around us since very long time.

[sheme]

My thanks to Rollo for the punch - friend Rollo - When we deal with the brutal sometimes we need to be brutal - it is away to communicate with a different vibration, you had a flash back moment and you remembered how to say STOP in brutal.

[Pris]

My thanks to Rollo for the punch - friend Rollo - When we deal with the brutal sometimes we need to be brutal - it is away to communicate with a different vibration, you had a flash back moment and you remembered how to say STOP in brutal.

Yes, I agree. I feel that Rollo did the exact right thing in that moment.

Rollo, you basically 'drew the line in the sand' and 'told' them not to cross it. You told them in a language they understood -- your fist. Thank goodness for people like you that stand up and protect others.