Collapse of Social Welfare State

[regnak]

Most Western Government are completely broke . There is a huge crises brewing and no one talks about it.

Most people believe that government takes care of you if your unemployed or you retire. Well as the population gets smaller because as people feel wealthy they have fewer children which leads to smaller population but in ancient times your children where your pension they take care of you ie there is no government pension.

if more are claiming social welfare and fewer people are working and the government cannot borrow over debt what happens them they go bust see Detroit America where the default lead to the pensioners getting zip.

In ancient times they had work houses for the very poor there was no social welfare payment because they were cheap to run. What does the future bring well in the past before you got married you got established then you got married dowry was about proving that you could support your wife and children like a pension. Hollywood has sold a dream of love at first sight and women marrying men of their own age but because women mature faster than men and a man should be able to support his family get established 25 percent older was the normal in ancient times reality is not like the movies just see modern divorce rates

most government only work in their own self interest not yours mostly they do not give a **** all rest is just bull****.

[Baby Steps]

Government revenues are under pressure due to ever increasing tax avoidance by big corporations & the rich. Demographics do not help, especially if the size of the workforce relative to the retired population shrinks. A partial solution is more immigration which is why governments promote it. Its a race as there are more and more old people and generally Governments meet pension obligations from current revenue. So the top down solution inevitably will be to chip away at what the state is able to provide. One bottom up solution would be for communities to start providing senior care, food etc themselves.What about food buying/catering collectives? One idea is to partially shut down the welfare state. How about abandoning all dole/income support etc and simply pay every registered person an amount per month, & fund this from tax. The average earner would end up the same or slightly worse off, but the state would be able to shut down the massive machinery of administering entitlements and policing it. That would save alot. Another idea would be to look at health care in collectivised economies, I am thinking about Cuba, and try to emulate this in the wealthy countries. The savings could be huge.Ah don't get me started.
On the subject of haircuts, I never understood why the taxpayers had to take a haircut when it was the banks that made the mistakes. So I propose nationalising them, restructuring them, and writing off all government debt holdings on their books. Then handing new shares back to the old shareholders. Where the CENTRAL BANK holds government debt instruments these should be written off. In UK that means the bank of England balance sheet changes, but so what-it is publicly owned. Where the Central Bank is privately owned such as USA, well maybe it should be nationalised! At least you could issue debt free currency that way! If we did debt write offs along these lines in the UK, government debt (and interest) would fall by approximately 40%

[yelik]

I agree most governments are broke and there’s big trouble brewing which our Governments are well aware, what do you think FEMA is for.

Let’s not forget the elites are stripping the world of its financial and natural resources
whilst polluting the earth, air, sea, land, food, water and MIND. The cost of keeping the ET and technology secrets are astronomical; at the same time any democracy and freedoms reside only in our imagination, they've both long since been destroyed



COST OF KEEPING ET & TECHNOLOGY SECRETS


EARTH COSTS
PEOPLE EMPLOYED – 1m guess
MASS SPYING NSA / GCHQ
ALPHABET AGENCIES USA & UK
DUMBS – 1400 bases worldwide
EXOTIC TECHNOLOGY R&D
BIOLOGICAL & GENTIC EXPERIMNTATION
MEDIA
GOVERNMENT BRIBES
LEGESTATIVE CONTROL
EDUCATIONAL CONTROL
HISTORY MANIPULUAION
MEDICAL CONTROL
GOVERNMENT BLACK PROJECTS
CHEMTRAILS
FUNDING WARS & TERRORISM
RELIGIOUS CONTROL
LIFE STYLE OF THE GODS


CONSEQUENCIAL LOSSES/COSTS
COST OF POVERTY & SUFFERING
COST OF MEDICAL CARE
DUMBING DOWN HUMAN DEVELOPMENT & ADVANCEMENT
STRIPPING THE WORLD OF NATURAL RESOURCES
POLLUTION
ILLNESS & DISEASE
LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE
HUMAN TORTURE & EXPERIMENTATION
DAMAGING THE COSMOS – NUCLEAR DETONATIONS


NON-EARTH ACTIVITIES
MOON & MARS BASES (Adam & Eve)
SPACE TRAVEL
SPACE DEFENCE


FUNDED BY
BANKING & OIL CARTEL MONOPOLY FRAUD
CONTROL OF KEY NATURAL RESOURCES & UTILITIES
DRUGS & GUN RUNNING
CORRUPT TAX SYSTEM
MARKET MANIPULATION
GOVERNMENT BLACK PROJECTS
BUST BOOM CYCLE FRAUD
BAILOUTS
QUANTITATIVE EASING (QE)
CORPORATE MONOPOLIES
MUSIC & FILM INDUSTRY
REAL ESTATE & LAND


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground25.htm

Global Drugs $500bn

1400 Dumbs worldwide costing $17bn - $25bn each

[regnak]

Banks had to be bailed out because if they would not be bailed out there would be a world war

Rich men of the world want stay rich and if you defaulted on the loans they want there money bank by hook or crook and if you said no politicians take orders such things cause world wars because the loans are international:o

[yelik]

As I understand the financial crises was preplanned, as far back as 2004 if not before. Nothing in politics or world affairs happens by chance

[ghostrider]

it has been collapsed for a long time , they borrow money to pay the bills , just a few short years ago America got a loan from China to the tune of 5 trillion dollars ...

[KaiLee]

A friend of mine and I were discussing the (Australian) governments recent plans to remove welfare from a wider range of ppl. Their plans, once implemented (they can't get it into legislation, yet), would force ppl into homelessness. I told my friend that I hadn't found evidence, but I had a really strong feeling that all these welfare reductions were due to the debt of tptb having been paid off. The debt they created with the wars. This year marks the 100th anniversary of the beginning of WW1. In Alice Baileys Externalisation of the Heirarchy she speaks of the rending of the veil between dimensions having been created by the "noise" (vibration, emotional and sound) of the first war. The obvious cost of this was the blood of our fathers and grandfathers and great grandfathers. It is my speculation that the financial support of those soldiers children and grandchildren has been blood money. And now the debt has been all but paid out.

My friends reply stunned me. It's one thing to have a theory, it's another to be confronted with evidence of it. She told me shed been watching a lecture or current affairs show recently on the issues around removal of the welfare state. During which, it was pointed out by one of the speakers that it had been 100 years since the beginning of the first war. She recalled she could not understand, at the time, what relevance that had to welfare.

Our sharing of information was shocking to both of us.

NB. I also hold that the 'worship' in churches and war memorials around the world of each countries Unknown Soldier has something to do with this combination of debt and magic.

[ulli]

We can forget about the national level, or state level, of doing anything FOR the people. In fact, even the most sincere politician, once they climb up the political ladder to state level, they become transformed into something unrecognizable.

So people have to do whatever they can to make local government work for them.
And if the elected leaders still won't step into a service arena, then it's high time for community action. May each street block take care of it's elderly, sick, lonely, and homeless. Then we will have a healthy society.

[Michelle Marie]

Yes, Ulli, community action is required. There's something emerging in our communities. My own experience has been to rally our forces and provide food and information around food, and share resources.

I was gone for two trying years, but now I've returned to southern Oregon where GMO crops were banned on the last ballot election. We are going for labeling on our next ballot.

We have a time bank and other organizations that support community sharing of skills and resources. I'd like to see model communities pop up and share solutions. I'm taking part in this as opportunities arise. With Divine guidance, energies are being managed and I feel like our talents and abilities are being activated more. I'm in a state of curious allowing...going with the flow after attunement.

Yes! for taking care of each other in communities!!!

Michelle Marie