View Full Version : Alien Message to Mankind — “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”
Eric J (Viking)
23rd June 2010, 12:27
Don't shoot the messenger...It was passed on to me!! Please read, decide for yourself and distribute as desired.
The latest one of "This is a letter from ET to Earth: Do You Wish That We Show UP?"
QUOTED FROM THE MUFON REPORT:
This is a letter from ET to Earth: Do You Wish That We Show UP?
Translated to English:
This long letter to humanity appeared with no apparent return address. It is being posted here and there. This is another Internet piece for which I cannot assess the validity. All I CAN say is that it sounds like a good idea, is coherent, and is written skillfully at a level of intelligence and maturity with I would associate with a serious, non-technical, matter-of-fact level of discourse. It is not ethnically loaded and the writer has a very good understanding of language and human psychology, though there are a few moments where the grammar is different than we are accustomed to and there are a couple of language errors.
Most importantly, it makes no reference to impossible constructs, faux-tech, nor any type of religious or New Age buzzwords. I am also sending it to you because it might be real.
The main assertion in the letter is that human civilization is now in an uncontrollable free-fall implosion which cannot be “fixed” from within existing social systems. The implosion is causing, will cause a major rupture in all human orders. There is a dark road down toward the use of technology
to rapidly enslave human populations in a badly degraded and unhealthy environment. Those who are defining this path, many of them unintentionally, have the greater advantage of power over resources and may gain the upper hand during the coming rupture. There are many who would take a liberating path, they could gain the upper hand if they UNDERSTAND THE CHOICE and can lose their fear, sense of isolation, and ignorance about the true state of affairs.
The main proposition in the letter is that the mass appearance of ET in the skies now could help humanity clear away the veils of illusion and deceits, help settle many existential issues and dilemmas, and provide an “attractor” to help pull positive mentalities out of the social death-vortex and enable them to refocus the next stage in evolution.
The main question in the letter is whether you want ET to thus show UP................
................After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable: choosing between two unknowns. Why spread such a message among yourselves?
Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of millenniums, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later, at least one generation, if it can survive. Not choosing stands for undergoing other people’s choice. Not informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to one’s expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one’s free will.
It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.
It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe. Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships. A unique cultural shock in today´s mankind´s history. It will then be too late to regret about not making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about it ! And decide ! The big medias will not be necessarily interested in spreading this message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it.
You are still the architects of your own fate…
“DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP?”
www.mufoncms.com/files/23825_submitter_file1__ThisisaletterfromETtoEarth.doc
viking
edit to reduce quoted material.....was 4591 words long!!!
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watchZEITGEISTnow
23rd June 2010, 13:55
viking - this is pretty cool!
nice find :)
Etherios
23rd June 2010, 14:04
feels bad ... says too much for a simple question. i dont like it :-P
reminds me of a gun decision situations ...
theguardian
23rd June 2010, 14:27
Hi Viking, nice report, but if its from MUFON its maybe a setup, PEace
Gita
23rd June 2010, 16:25
Viking, Viking, Viking - oh my dear Viking - leave you alone for five minutes and you are at it again!!:rolleyes:
Anyway which ETs is it from - not the blimming Ashtar people thingies?? And yes I've not read it and you know me, it's not likely I'm going to either so bullet point it. :laugh:
Eric J (Viking)
23rd June 2010, 16:36
Gita Gita Gita ... Oh my dear Gita - leave me alone for a bit longer and I will still be at it!!! LOL
Which ET's!!!! Ha Ha Hey all you need to know is that they are benevolent!!!
Dont be lazy and read the whole script!!!
viking
Peace of Mind
23rd June 2010, 16:41
If these ET’s know we are being manipulated by bad ET’s…then they should know that the bad ET’s are infringing on our free will, which (imo) is the real reason for delaying our evolution and prosperity. Why would they allow this and then say they will not show up unless we want them to......…did the bad ET’s ask for our permission? If they see us as being technologically inferior to these bad ET’s…why not get rid of them, or expose them to the masses so we can exercise our free will in dealing with them?
Most people are stagnated because they don’t really know where to turn or what to believe. The true enemies are those who are confusing the masses with these many new ideas of reality. So much focus is on the problems and not solutions. Too many claims to know what’s official but they present lacking proof. All of this new age, 2012 and ET stuff is amazing but is causing further division in the species. People are actually leaving family members and love ones because they can't see eye to eye on these new age ideas.
Telling people to have faith in it isn’t going to work because we as a whole have been lie to constantly through out eternity. Our lifestyle is a big lie, so it would be beneficial to all if they would just lend a helping hand in eradicating the unwanted dark forces so humanity can exercise its true potential.
I’ve asked numerous times for them to show up, but received no visits. Even a personal house call would do wonders on my part because it will motivate me to push and stimulate certain channels that are in my possession. There is just too much to jeopardize if all of this ET, 2012, and Ascension talk is just some elaborate hoax for the sole purpose of money and/or the discrediting of religions. So, I don’t really see this letter promoting anything but showing humans their faults and how gullible they are. We tend to believe in the good stuff because that’s what every one of us wants. We want paradise, but are too blind and led a stray to see where it resides.
If it is left to us, we will perish because there is not enough brave souls willing to fight, plus there is not enough of the "need to know facts" circulating that will necessitate any form of sacrificing.
If these "good" ET's want to do something right by us…just do it. Don’t just stand, or fly around watching us scurry around in dismay. What kind of entity watches a bully beat up the helpless? I can’t imagine any specie in this or any other universe that didn’t need some sought of assistance at one point in their existence. Especially, when there are bullies involved.
We can handle anything and eventually will get over any shock brought on to us. We’re special like that…but we and our mother Earth can surely use some assistance. It dosen't take a rocket scientist to figure this out...so what part "help" is these ET's having problems understanding?
Peace
Steven
23rd June 2010, 18:26
Hehe, Viking. You have already posted it in the past. I remember I have replied to it when you did, lol. It is an old text from this french ex-pilot. Micheal Salla has even wrote an article about it all. There is also an old petition circulating the net about it. Most probably a hoax. But rather interesting read, probably 'inspired'.
Namaste, Steven
fifi
23rd June 2010, 18:29
I have wished for the benevolent ETs to show up for a long time. I will wholeheartedly say YES to this question, because I know the PTB never wants disclosure. It has not been a fair fight for us, when benevolent ETs dare not interfere because they respect our free will, while negative ETs and their minions just go on carrying out their evil plans, regardless of our will and well-being.
OnyxKnight
23rd June 2010, 18:39
Viking, mate, I don't think we are mature enough for a real, first, official contact.
Just MHO.
Wood
23rd June 2010, 19:32
I would like to have open contact with positive ETs. However, I can see how a contact like the one described in the message, just ships on the sky for a while, could be used by the PTBs to force a world government that I suspect won't be in the interest of most of us. NWO. We need individual empowering, not a situation that the current power structure could use to further increase the control over us.
ETs could help us by giving a simple to build, working design for a free energy device, for example, that could be easily manufactured with simple tools. Spiritual techniques to decrease our dependence on food and water would help also. Most of our suffering (and the suffering we inflict on the planet) comes from our struggle for survival in a world with limited resources, not from any inherent bloodthirst we may have.
Etherios
23rd June 2010, 20:52
Viking, mate, I don't think we are mature enough for a real, first, official contact.
Just MHO.
IF TPTB have their hands we will never be rdy...
OnyxKnight
23rd June 2010, 21:12
IF TPTB have their hands we will never be rdy...
Well, we might soon be ready, according to Alex Collier (even though I think we still need time). Have you seen his latest lecture?
Solphilos
23rd June 2010, 22:17
Well, we might soon be ready, according to Alex Collier (even though I think we still need time). Have you seen his latest lecture?
Do you have a link?
OnyxKnight
24th June 2010, 02:09
Do you have a link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ3xuwPb38o
He talks about several extraterrestrial races that will contact humanity in near future and engage in what he termed - mentorship.
Solphilos
24th June 2010, 02:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ3xuwPb38o
He talks about several extraterrestrial races that will contact humanity in near future and engage in what he termed - mentorship.
Nice, Thanks!
Etherios
24th June 2010, 05:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ3xuwPb38o
He talks about several extraterrestrial races that will contact humanity in near future and engage in what he termed - mentorship.
I have seen it a few months ago :-P but he isnt 100% sure that this will happen. He is asking how we feel about this. And he was very very careful to how he proposed it. The Andromedians are asking IF we want this. If enough ppl thhink its possible then they might do it. But Collier never said its a done deal or its being programed to happen.
Its more like the ETs giving us a choice if we want it and then they might do it or not.
Onyx humans will never ever be rdy because they dont even think about this. Yes since the 40-50's the amount of ppl saying ETs are real have risen from 10-20% to 70-80% but still. We are too occupied with our survival that we cant affort to think about ETs.
i really think we need a forced disclosure and a huge social collapse. We need to be shaken and wake up to reality. To me waiting for the ppl in this planet to wake up is wishful thinking.
Either we get a forced disclosure or we get a cataclysm of nature (any kind) that makes us think of what we are doing.
Last this letter is fake 100%... why? you cant ask the ppl that are powerless and barely able to survive the day reply to you about aliens. This planet has 6-7 billion ppl. The civilized part is 20-30%? Of those 15-20% are poor or lower... living day by day. the last 10% i think is mostly brainwashed ppl that actually think the news networks tell the truth. The total global number of ppl that have the "luxury" to think about ETs, enlightment etc etc is close to 5% maybe less.
p.s. i really hope i am wrong but see the world globaly dont see US - EU - Russia etc. Billions of ppl are born and die without even knowing what electricity is or what technology is. To them UFO and ETs that come out of them are gods.
Majorion
24th June 2010, 08:15
The total global number of ppl that have the "luxury" to think about ETs, enlightment etc etc is close to 5% maybe less.
Hopefully you are not confusing the two, enlightenment has nothing to do with a belief in extraterrestrials.
Your suggestion we need a cataclysm, is pretty grim. Just as you feel others need be awoken to your brand of beliefs, and perhaps on some level they do, consider you are not the only one, religious preachers have been converting people for centuries. How do you feel when a religious person insists you either accept their truth or be damned, a very closed minded (and unenlightened) approach don't you agree.
Etherios
24th June 2010, 08:51
Hopefully you are not confusing the two, enlightenment has nothing to do with a belief in extraterrestrials.
Your suggestion we need a cataclysm, is pretty grim. Just as you feel others need be awoken to your brand of beliefs, and perhaps on some level they do, consider you are not the only one, religious preachers have been converting people for centuries. How do you feel when a religious person insists you either accept their truth or be damned, a very closed minded (and unenlightened) approach don't you agree.
WHAT are you talking about? ETs and the knowledge that there are numerous planets with intelligent life out there ISNT A BELIEF ... we are not talking about god here ...
What i said is ppl dont have time to think about this possibility and try to evolve. They dont have the time to spent thinking about these things.
If you dont believe ETs exist out there then you shouldnt even bother with this forum. Most of us have passed that by alot. TPTB make living so hard in this planet so we dont have time to think about anything else ... if you cant even agree to that then ill just put you on ignore because your only purpose here is to flame and be negative.
So ill repeat maybe you understand me better ... english isnt my native language.
"The total global number of ppl that have the "luxury" to think about ETs, enlightment etc etc is close to 5% maybe less" this means that there are soo few ppl that have time to spare and think about the possibilities of ETs, of enlightment, of free energy, of a non monetary society etc etc.
They dont care cause getting food on the table is FAR FAR more important to them than ETs. This has nothing to do with beliefs or religions etc etc. Yes i am starting to think that a cataclysmic event is needed for ppl to stop and think about the bigger picture and not only about food on the table. SO if you see here anything about my beliefs or something similar well GL to you.
Eric J (Viking)
24th June 2010, 09:06
I agree with Ethrerios to a certain extent...people are so tied up and so in the loop that thats all they believe is reality...They simply haven't got time to think anything else. Sad but true!!
The system has control and they (ptb) know it!!! Even when they do find a little time to themselves they switch on the brainwashing box and are happy just to vegitate and take in some more drivel!!! It is very sad but all I see around me are robots doing the same thing day in day out... This is the true reality.
We are but a very small percentage in comparison with the 7 Billion. Can we change the pattern with our small group??? I still have faith, but at times I doubt if our collective conciousness can overhaul the pattern we are in. And yes I understand what Etherios is saying about wiping the slate clean and starting afresh!!!
viking
Majorion
24th June 2010, 10:45
If you dont believe ETs exist out there then you shouldnt even bother with this forum. Most of us have passed that by alot. TPTB make living so hard in this planet so we dont have time to think about anything else ... if you cant even agree to that then ill just put you on ignore because your only purpose here is to flame and be negative.
I wasn't aware you set the policy here, to my knowledge there is nothing in the T&C that says no-skeptics-allowed. In any case this is not meant negatively, call it skeptical inquiry, you put out an argument and I'm disputing it.
Tuza
24th June 2010, 12:00
Aah, Marjorion, Gita, Star etc etc, you are all part of the awoken souls on Gaia. If you weren't you wouldn't bother reading and replying on this forum. Once your awake you cannot ever go back to being asleep. I think deep down you all know there are heaps of ETs out there, now come on I know you do.
Gita
24th June 2010, 12:07
Tuza, of course there are heaps of ETs out there and there are also imposters. Whether ET or human – if they continuously stroke their own egos and spread false hope then us ‘awakened’ people have a duty to try and make others see sense whilst at the same time having some fun whilst doing it. No one said waking others should be so darn serious. :becky:
freespirit
25th June 2010, 16:37
I've been getting the Blossoms Goodchild newsletter for some time now and although I have my doubts I find my self looking for her newsletter in my inbox ?
Telepathy seems to be the method of communication for our alien bretheren.
Anyway make your own mind up !
Hello Everyone.
Forgive the intrusion on your day. Many of you will have already been informed of this, but for those who haven't please, let's get this show on the road!! So many people have sent this on to me today.
.
Dear Friends,
As we have noticed in our friends the majority of people on earth wish to have permanent peace for all nations and beings. It is obvious that the mass consciousness has changed in a positive direction and that humans are aware that “Mother Earth” has been damaged massively through predatory exploitation of the soil specially oil and the misuse of power.
Most of the humans have recognised, that we did not want to have these results and that we want to make a change now and immediately. They wish a change of the actual economic sweating system and an active support in the reorganization process of the planet through implementing alternative energies and technologies as well as a better health system.
These people that belong to the dark side are now in minority, but still these dark Ones are able to suppress most of the humans through clever manipulation of their mind and free will. It is important that the “parity of power” will be re-structured, to terminate the force of the dark Ones which is executed through their technologies and power of economy.
The Galactic Federation which is, a community of many star nations that protect our Milky Way Galaxy, has offered many times their help to different governments, but they have refused it. The Galactic Federation are more than ready to help us directly to remove the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, to master the worldwide economic crisis and the environmental damage and to develop alternative technologies that bring benefits to all human beings.
“A mandated authority” from us, the earth population will be needed and required to intervene in respect to the free will.
In that sense the Galactic Federation expects a cosmical mass Petition, which would ensure that they can come to us in peace. They are awaiting this moment for a long time, this moment, that they call the “Magic Moment” in which a mass of people would welcome them. Every single person that reads this petition has now the chance to show responsibility and as well the opportunity to create a positive change for the whole world.
If you want to welcome them, if this is also your firm will to accept their support, then please act and perform the following 3 steps:
Step 1:
click on to this youtube link, that counts in a symbolic way your “Vote”, like a “barometer”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE6o73SN1iE
Step 2.
click on the link to sign in to a mass petition
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/GF2010/petition.html
which will, if it has received a high level of attention be directed to the President of America, Barack Obama
And the very important Step 3:
Support this action and forward this letter to all the people you know, who may think like you.
Never forget, only together we are strong and “YES, WE CAN”
In Love and Gratitude
Petra Samoiski-Tierney & Friends
June the 18th 2010
martin, freespirit
Peace of Mind
25th June 2010, 17:58
E.T. has always been an interesting subject, but for me, it is best to approach the topic with an open mind because the facts are limited. All that we know about space and beyond comes from the elites, and a few secluded individuals claiming to have close encounters. That’s not really enough to make rational statements. If we go by the popular knowledge of how vast space is, then it makes sense to think that we are not alone in the universe. But to be honest with ones self (who has no personal experience of the outer realms of Earth), we know nothing.
For all we know…we could also be living in the Earth too, and the sky as we see it… is really the ceiling/outer crust to the planet…and the sun, moon and stars are just holes in the crust…haha (just a thought)
We believe, debate, and form ideas off of the ideas that have already been instilled in us by our corrupt leaders. There is very little hands on information to be obtained when discussing anything Off planet. Our facts come from the very people we have a problem trusting. So do we really know what we are talking about?
Peace
Celine
25th June 2010, 17:59
"passed on to you"?? by whom?
saying it this way...refers to "intent".
Mulder
26th June 2010, 05:30
I'm very worried about these kinds of posts, as any unstable person could write a letter and say its from ETs. I really think this type of post can be used to abuse & manipulate people. I'd be more able to accept these posts if the "contactee" gave their name & email address so I can contact them (or see their website). Also, why would ET's contact this person is a burning question - surely, ETs would contact journalists, politicians or similar people who have credibility.
Eric J (Viking)
26th June 2010, 08:56
Hi Celine, it really doesn't matter who passed on the message ...it's the content that's important...As I said do as you wish with the message...and of course there is intent...but good intent...
Hi Steven, again it doesn't matter if the message is re-gurgitated and in a different form...When the cycle returns there are many who have not been privy to the info ...
When the glass is full !!!
viking
ascendingstarseed
26th June 2010, 11:30
You always manage to come up with intriguing material, thanks for all your hard work Viking!
Lost Soul
27th June 2010, 01:34
Mulder raises a good point. Hence, discernment is needed. Does it feel legitimate to you?
sargeist
27th June 2010, 02:01
I'm very worried about these kinds of posts, as any unstable person could write a letter and say its from ETs. I really think this type of post can be used to abuse & manipulate people. I'd be more able to accept these posts if the "contactee" gave their name & email address so I can contact them (or see their website). Also, why would ET's contact this person is a burning question - surely, ETs would contact journalists, politicians or similar people who have credibility.
Its written by Eric Julien aka Jean Ederman
He has a history of wrong predictions.
Majorion
27th June 2010, 03:03
Its written by Eric Julien aka Jean Ederman
Whats with these people who insist on using different names?
Burke
28th June 2010, 12:08
thx for this...
fascinating...i have sent my answer
=D
Enlightenment101
28th June 2010, 13:42
We are like children to them lol that have got a hold of a lighter, I believe some can handle the truth, but I'm not sure most can, some tend to fear what they don't understand,
hettleman
28th June 2010, 15:52
I have read the letter and here are my thoughts. There is so much deception out there and in light of the events occuring we are open for solutions and assistance from others who claim to be able to help. For me personally, the question is, from where do they come and do they come in our Father's name? If they are in alignment with the Creator of all creators, then I say YES! Come and mentor us! We are open to learn! We are teachable! So, in not knowing who "they" are, I place the decision in God's hands. I truly believe there is a battle of light and dark going on and that we must be clear in who we choose to serve. The one and only Creator God, or another?
Discernment is necessary at all times and whether or not you take this letter seriously I do believe in the simple statements, "Ask and ye shall receive", and "Seek and ye shall find". I sincerely suggest when we ask and seek that we direct our requests to the One Creator God Source, from which we all come from, in source of origin! There are many "gods" but only one GOD. Then we can trust whomever is sent in His name.
If we claim our power in our oneness I do believe we will be guided from within, to step up to the plate and unfold the soloutions to our world's problems. For every problem, there is a solution! Be it assistance and mentoring from beings from another world or from our own direct line of communication from our God Source, we will recieve when we ask and when we seek we will find!
Instead of debating the validity of this letter why don't we UNITE instead of dividing and in our collective consciousness seek a solution!
Just my opinion!
Kerry
Bill Ryan
28th June 2010, 21:36
These ETs are very persistent - or very patient! :)
The letter first appeared in 2003, and has been doing the rounds ever since. Every now and then it's rediscovered, and re-presented as if it's just been received.
It's another case study (I'm afraid) of how false information goes viral, is sometimes impossible to stop, and is believed by tens of thousands of people who didn't stop to check it out.
I spent about three or four minutes (no more than that) searching for key words. The earliest reference I've been able to find for it is on Stephanie Relfe's site, here:
http://metatech.org/contact_extraterrestrials_intervention.html
Stephanie stated that it originally appeared here (site no longer active):
http://geocities.com/changetheworld_now/index.html
Its written by Eric Julien aka Jean Ederman
He has a history of wrong predictions.
This is correct. After a few minutes more searching and checking, I read confirmation of exactly this from someone I know and trust and who knows Eric Julien. Case closed... sorry, folks.
Anchor
28th June 2010, 23:12
The mechanism for presenting the idea/letter/message -whatever it is today - may be riddled with fraud and easy to debunk.
How about just reading the letter and answering the question?
In my view it is irrelevant if this letter was written by ET or not.
Maybe we should only judge the message - the quality of the messenger may inform the choice for some, only natural, but if and when it does so, then you also need to consider and be mindful of why these things have to be done in an indirect manner. Direct mass contact is not possible at the moment.
John..
PS: My answer was yes, I would be happy to get all the ET help I can get - for the highest and best good of all. I think I already get a lot, but I dont see why we should not get as much as possible.
Eric J (Viking)
30th June 2010, 09:10
The mechanism for presenting the idea/letter/message -whatever it is today - may be riddled with fraud and easy to debunk.
How about just reading the letter and answering the question?
In my view it is irrelevant if this letter was written by ET or not.
Maybe we should only judge the message - the quality of the messenger may inform the choice for some, only natural, but if and when it does so, then you also need to consider and be mindful of why these things have to be done in an indirect manner. Direct mass contact is not possible at the moment.
John..
PS: My answer was yes, I would be happy to get all the ET help I can get - for the highest and best good of all. I think I already get a lot, but I dont see why we should not get as much as possible.
I wholeheartedly agree with you John ...
viking
bluestflame
30th June 2010, 09:45
from my understanding the benevolent ones are able to discern our agreeance on some level , wether conscious or unconscious , sometimes it's about exploring the potential , if there were benevolent ones that were offering assistance , some have mentioned mentorship , like to assist us to become more aware of what we already know , i'd certainly be willing to arrange communications with them on a personal level and get to know them and discern for myself thier true intentions and integrity before asking the masses to embrace them
essence speaks louder and more clearly that words
the feeling we get from them is a good indication of thier intent and thier integrity
anyone that offers to fix things for us seem to be operating under an agenda
so i get first step is direct communication in full awareness
pickle
28th March 2011, 09:07
I can't find this anyhere, so apologies if it's in the wrong place.... It purports to be from (friendly) ET, but in your own opinion, whether this is false or not (ie. made up!) is not the issue for me personally, it's the message that counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMcUy-YZvqs
(my first thread folks, so apologies if there's a glitch with the vid, might help if you keep pausing it to read it - it changes pages quickly)
I voted 'yes' without hesitation, and have been 'asking' for this every night for a looooong time.
Each to their own, but if it rings 'right' for you, please pass it on ;-)
Peace.
Pickle
str8thinker
28th March 2011, 12:27
Hi pickle, welcome to the forum.
This letter has actually been discussed here before (search on "alien letter"):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3300
and has drawn some comments. Maybe mods should merge these posts.
Here are PDF and forum page versions which I find a bit easier to read:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/82/184/Alien_Message_To_Earth.html
http://truthofalltruths.org/A%20letter%20from%20an%20alien.pdf
This message has been "doing the rounds" of UFO circles and I don't think anyone has any idea where it came from. The earliest links seem to have died.
I have serious issues with the authenticity of this "letter", for the following reasons:
1) The prologue and the main text of the letter look to me to have been written by the same hand, even though the letter is "unaltered by me".
2)
Most importantly, it makes no reference to impossible constructs, faux-tech, nor any type of religious or New Age buzzwords.
IMO, this is one of its weaknesses, not its strengths. If it were genuine it might have proved this by sticking its neck out and throwing up information that we could not possibly have known about. Instead, it is kept as bland and full of generalizations as possible.
3) The writer of the letter refers to only one ET, as if one race of ET speaks for all, in the face of growing evidence that there are several races of ETs out there, competing for our hearts, minds and body parts. Therefore if this message did come from a member of one ET race purporting to speak for all, this is disinfo.
4) The letter reads like a twenty-first version of a cargo cult, only the cargo is not material goods but mental liberation. "Do you wish that we show up?" What a deceitful question. What guarantee have I got that doing this won't invoke Satan, Lucifer or whatever you want to call him? Usually the Devil has to be summoned, then you can't turn around and blame him for what he does because it was you who called him in the first place.
The main proposition in the letter is that the mass appearance of ET in the skies now could help humanity clear away the veils of illusion and deceits, help settle many existential issues and dilemmas, and provide an “attractor” to help pull positive mentalities out of the social death-vortex and enable them to refocus the next stage in evolution...The main question in the letter is whether you want ET to thus show UP.
Do we want all these fantastic benefits? Of course we bloody well do, so why bother asking us? We know you can read our minds, so who in his right mind would not mentally sign right there on the dotted line? Why not march straight in, as I bet you plan to do anyway?
This letter is a time-wasting joke, the kind of message I might expect to hear from the likes of Stephen Greer or David Wilcock.
ulli
28th March 2011, 12:53
It's about taking ownership of an opinion.
Just like you do here all the time,
and as a result seem to have a high level of self respect.
With ownership comes a shift in attitude.
Self image changes, minds are opened. I see nothing wrong with that,
whether the source of the article was ET or some group of sociologists doing a social experiment-
if only 100 people start questioning their own wishes it has fulfilled it's purpose.
And you are probably right about Stephen Greer and David Wilcock as well, them being time wasters.
The same could be said about Avalon, and computers, shopping, planting flowers, living and breathing...
But I happen to like them all.
Just thought I'd plaster my opinion here....
pickle
28th March 2011, 14:34
Thanks Str8 and Ulli, and Mods, please feel free to merge with the other thread about this subject - sorry for not spotting it.
Your comment greatly appreciated Str8, and as I said in my opener - it can very easily be fake. Though from my own point of view, I think it's going to be close to impossible for man alone to make the changes we need before it's too late, and that's why every day I pray/hope/wish for 'assistance' to make it blindingly obvious there's more to this life than the future we're heading into. Maybe this is underestimating ourselves, maybe we shouldn't rely on an event that shocks the whole world into changing their thinking, but I doubt the masses will 'wake up' any time soon, or soon enough.
Ulli, feel free to keep opinion-plastering, I agree with you completely ;-)
Hughe
8th October 2011, 10:36
The female voice is non-human to me. It probably generated by voice software from the context on the video scene by scene.
xUFNZUxBYp8
I said YES for myself.
Make up you own mind either ignore or say YES / NO as is.
Suppose the number of people who are honest and great intention reaches to critical mass so that one day thousands of alien ships show up all over the world, people will have to take it as facts without media or government manipulation. Then they will grasp bigger reality that would have been hidden by the society. It will be upto individual choice how to move on from new reality. Some will stick to old paradigm, some will embrace new life experiences.
The game has changed. Let's bring it on.
(Below is the full transcript I just typed for translators.)
Do you wish that we show up?
Whoever transmitted this transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this message which matters!
Each of you wish to exercise your free will and experience happiness.
These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have access. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.
Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your destiny. Yet, you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.
It is not our responsibility to modify your future without you choosing it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your answer as a ballot!
Who are we?
Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one's beliefs, however respectable they may be.
A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your civilization is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less upsetting one, is notably diffused.
What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become possible, then realized, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware that the future will be even more surprising. you will discover the worst as well as the best.
Like billions of others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that some name extraterrestrials, even though reality is subtler.
There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organized structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we turn to you.
Like most of you, we are in the quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic Brotherhood.
Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us humanoid shaped.
Our existence is a reality but the majority of u does not perceive it yet. We are not mere observations, we are consciences just like you. you fail to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your senses and measure instruments most of the time.
We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this collective decision but this is not enough. We need yours. Through this message, u become the decision makers! You personally.
We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your decision.
Why aren't we visible?
At certain stages of evolution, cosmic humanities discover new forms of science beyond the apparent control of matter. Structured dematerialization and materialization are part of them. This is what your humanity has reached in a few laboratories, in close collaboration with other extraterrestrial creatures at the cost of hazardous compromises that remain purposely hidden from you by some of your representatives.
Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by your scientific community, that you call UFOs, there are essentially multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.
Many human being have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic contact with such ships, some of which are under occult powers that govern you. The scarcity of your observations is due to the outstanding advantages provided by the dematerialized state of these ships.
By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their existence. We fully understand this.
The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so as to touch the soul and not to modify any organized system. This is deliberate from the races that surround you but for very different reasons and results.
For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.
For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own. Humankind's entrance into the family of galactic civilization is greatly expected.
We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We haven't done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it, because of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because of the emergency of the situation did not justify it. Many of those who study our appearances count the lights in the night without lighting the way. Often they think in terms of objects when it is all about conscious beings.
Who are you?
you are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have been mutually enriched by each others contributions. The same applies to the races at the surface of the Earth. your goal is to unite in the respect of these roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance of your cultures seem to keep you separated because you substitute it to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the essence of your subtle nature. For the powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.
You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it for its richness and beauty. Understanding the conscience of shape makes us love men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making war, it consists in becoming what you are in reality, a same Fraternity.
To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach are decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that would reflect the image of what you are in reality.
What is your Situation?
Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little incidence o your Capacity to make collective and individual decisions about your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your Deep psychological mechanisms.
We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being becomes aware of himself and of his environment, getting progressively rid of constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite the numerous, brave and willing human consciences, those inertias are artificially maintained for the profit of a growing centralizing power.
Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decision. But it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of the growing used of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on the earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible. Yr. Resilience will artificially decrease, independently of yr. Own will. Such technologies exist that affect yr. Body as well as your mind. Such plans are on their way.
This can change as long as y keep this creative power in y, even if it cohabits with the dark intentions of yr potential lords. This is the reason why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed to vanish should a collective reaction of great magnitude not happen. The period to come is that of rupture, whichever it may be.
But should y wait for the last moment to find solutions? Should y anticipate or undergo pain?
your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were often conflictual. Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of others. Earth has now become a village where everyone knows everyone else but still conflicts persist and threats of all kinds get worse in duration and intensity.
Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential capacities, cannot exercise them with dignity. This is the case for the biggest majority of y for reasons that are essentially geopolitical.
There are several billion of you. The education of your children and your living conditions, as well as the conditions of numerous animals and much plant life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number of your political, financial, military and religious representatives.
your thoughts and beliefs are modeled after partisan interests to turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the felling that you are in control of your destiny, which in essence is the reality.
But there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules of the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the conqueror. Biasing information is a millinery strategy for human beings. Inducting thoughts, emotions or organisms that do not belong to you via ad hoc technologies is an even older strategy.
Wonderful opportunities of progress stand close to big subdued and destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now. However, you can only perceive what is being shown to you. The end of natural resources is programmed whereas no long-term collective project has been launched.
Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution of resources which entry price will rise day after day and will bring about fratricide fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and countrysides.
Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass is insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.
Human behaviors, formed from past habits and trainings, have such an inertia that this perspective leads y to a dead end. Y entrust these problems to representatives, whose conscience of common well-being slowly fades away in front of corporatist interests, with those difficulties. They are always debating on the form but rarely on the content.
Just at the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when you have to submit rather than choose. This is the reason why, more than ever in your history, your decisions of today will directly and significantly impact your survival of tomorrow.
What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any civilization? Where we a collective and unifying awareness come from, that will stop this blind rushing ahead?
Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred.
A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging. It mixes very positive but also very negative aspects.
Who are the “third party”?
There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another civilization, via its standing representatives or directly with individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the second way brings awareness.
The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and human emotional energy.
The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the human power who refused our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision.
That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the past to those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness, we propose it now to you!
Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise of those centralizing powers without them being neither suspected nor accessible to your sense. This is so true that they have almost very subtly taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that is precisely what would make them extremely efficient and frightening in the future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives are fighting this danger! Be aware that not all abductions are made against you. It is difficult to recognize the truth!
How could you under such conditions exercise your free will when it is so much manipulated? What are you really free of?
Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward the harmony with civilization other than yours.
That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scene want to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They also reign over those who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to distillate mistrust and fear into you. This considerably harms your very cosmic nature.
This message would be of no interest if these manipulators tutorate did not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did not materialize in a few years from now. Their deadlines are close and mankind will undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten cycles.
To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you need at least to have enough information that leads to the solution.
As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the dominator from the ally. At your current state psychism, it is extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition to your intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come.
Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you to an alternative.
What can we offer?
We can offer you an more holistic vision of the universe and of life, constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradication of suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness.
We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you desire, the spirit of quest to new skies.
What would we receive?
Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of. The felling of Joy is strongly sought in the universe for its energy is divine.
What is the question we ask you?
“DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP?”
How can you answer this question? The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly ask yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your own or in a group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a city or in the middle of a desert does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you were speaking to yourself but thinking about the message.
This is a universal question and these mere few words, put in their context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let hesitation in the way. This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience. In order to perfectly associate your answer with the question, it is recommended that you answer right after another reading of this message.
Do not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free will penetrate you. Be proud of what you are! The problems that you may have weaken you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be yourselves. Feel the force that springs up in you. Your are in control of yourselves!
A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near future, in one way as in another.
Your individual decision of asking in your inner self that we show up on your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and essential to us.
Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are essentially useless. A sincere request made with your heart and your own will, will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to.
In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will determine the future.
What is the lever effect?
This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even though it might seem like a minority. It is recommended to spread this message, in all envisageable fashions, in as many languages as possible, to those around you, whether or not they seem receptive to this new vision of the future.
Do it using in a humorous tone or derision if that can help you. You can even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more comfortable but do not be indifferent for at least you will have exercised your free will.
Forget about the false prophets and the beliefs that have been transmitted to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate that can be asked to you. Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is your right as well as your responsibility!
Passivity only leads to the absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision is never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is something that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose, do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This is not a show, this is real daily life, WE ARE ALIVE! And living!
Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small number.
Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and influence the future of the majority, a small number of you can radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face of so much inertia and hurdles! You can ease the mankind's birth to Brotherhood.
One of your thinkers once said, “Give me a hand-hold and I'll raise the Earth.”
Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we will be the light years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to raise the Earth as a consequence of our appearance.
What would be the consequences of a positive decision?
For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favorable decision would be the materialization of many ships, in your sky and on Earth.
For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many certitude and beliefs.
A simple conclusive visual contact would have huge repercussions on your future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The organization of your societies would be deeply upheaved forever, in all fields of activity. Power would become individual because you would see for yourself that we are living. Concretely, you would change the scale of your values!
The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single family in front of this “unknown” we would represent!
Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would indirectly force the undesirable ones, those we name the “third party”, to show up and vanish. You would all bear the same name and share the same roots, Mankind!
Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile he who is fearful cannot welcome use. We are sad to see men, women and children suffering to such a degree in their flesh and in their hearts when they bear such an inner light.
This light can be your future. Our relationships could be progressive.
Several stages of several years or decades would occur, demonstrative appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings, collaboration in your technical and spiritual evolution, discovery of parts of the galaxy.
Every time, new choices would be offered to you. You would then decide by yourself to cross new stages if you think it necessary to your external and inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon unilaterally. We would leave as soon as you would collectively wish that we do.
Depending upon the speed to spread the message across the world, several weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our “great appearance”, if such is the decision made by the majority of those who will have used their capacity to choose, and if this message receives the necessary support.
The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely simple, we are technically equipped to materialize!
Why such a historical dilemma?
We know that “foreigners” are considered as enemies as long as they embody the “unknown”. In a first stage, the emotion that our appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a worldwide scale.
How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your collective choice? For the simple reason that we would have otherwise been already there for a long time at your level of existence! If we are not there yet, it is because you have not made such a decision explicitly.
Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a deliberate choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this would not be true. What interest would we have to openly offer you what you haven't got any access to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you?
How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle maneuver of the “third party” to better enslave you? Because one always more efficiently fights something that is identified that the contrary. Isn't the terrorism that corrodes you a blatant example?
Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul! What your choice, it would be respectable and respected! In the absence of human representatives who would potentially seduce you into error, you ignore everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without your consent.
In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not trying to discover us does no longer prevail. You are already in the Pandora's box that the “third party” has created around you. Whatever your decision may be you will have to get out of it.
In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need to ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your thinkers say? That is the real question!
After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable, choosing between two unknowns.
Why spread such a message among yourselves?
Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of millenniums, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later, at least one generation, if it can survive.
Not choosing, stands for undergoing other people's choice. Not informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to one's expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one's free will.
It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.
It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe.
Image our arrive tomorrow. Thousand s of ships. A unique cultural shock in today’s' mankind’s history. It will then be too late to regret about not making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about it! And decide!
The big medias will not be necessarily interested in spreading this message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it.
You are still the architects of your own fate...
“DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP?”
spiritguide
8th October 2011, 11:55
I say no for the following reason..... http://www.btinternet.com/~seamaid/earth_medicine_thoughts.htm .....the link tells it like it is for myself!
Billy
8th October 2011, 14:01
I have been inviting my benevolent family to be more transparent for 30yrs or so. I understood that because of the No Interference law of the universe, they required our permission to assist humanity. If we give permission for assistance this does not mean interfering with the free will of humanity or giving your power away, My free will choices asks for ALL to be transparent, No hidden agendas or secrets.
I ask that the veil be lifted between us and the unseen worlds.
We have to use discernment when giving permission to the unseen, as you all know there are those that do not have the betterment of humanity in their agenda's,
Therefore bring this into your asking, That you give permission to your universal family " Only" if they have " no control issues" and "the betterment of humanity at heart"
I give permission and I say YES with clarity and great discernment.
As far as spiritguides link above, The ancient natives were in contact with their universal family and recieved guide-dance on a regular basis. Their family always guided them to " Look within" for within is where you can communicate with the unseen universal worlds and families.
Sidney
8th October 2011, 14:22
Yes yes and Yes
eaglespirit
8th October 2011, 14:33
I said "Yes" in January of 2007, making the firmest commitment to personally help change the best I was able...each of us can do this in our own way at any time...it is simply "time" to do it as You choose. Living as purely as we can comes hand and hand with this choice.
I am talking now personally from the heart.
We have Higher Family and Friends(to put it simply) that are going to help Us more openly if We Wish.
I myself have been getting messages of this present extreme upgrade. And it is overwhelming to really make a decision of acceptance of this "appearance" really coming to fruition in plain site worldwide and humanity opening to the very real happening. I even had a bit of "oh my" moments and I have been living on the 'outer' edge of our reality in real life in real time for almost 5 years now. This is real commitment to change and taking on our own higher responsibilities to transform Mother Earth. I now believe many of Us are as ready as We will ever be...and we will help others step into their own personal power as never before with this very real upgrade in help.
Many of Us have already said "yes" by the work we are doing and we are fully aware of the help we are now getting because we are acting in the highest integrity we know and are able. For me this confirmation is going to push the gate wide open and 'growing up' is taking on a whole new meaning, worldwide now.
YES!
WhiteFeather
8th October 2011, 14:37
It is time for disclosure from our family of the universe. We welcome you with Love, Peace and Open Arms. I'm Ready! And I'M VOTING YES
Something Wonderful is gonna happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqSml40nwCE&feature=related
Lifebringer
8th October 2011, 14:47
Yes, by all means if you have the permission from the Heavenly Father and Creator. Yes, because they have already used billion year technology and lies to put US here today. We have had Presidents assasinated and WE NEED TO KNOW so that sanity and reality can bring the truth. The people on this planet suffering, demand as free will and God given right to the absolute truth.
I never believed in Santa Clause, did you. Shame that the parents didn't get the respect of their children for all the sacrifice to give them a happy day at the end of a year, only to give the stores profits to keep the lie going. Now the same retailers are taking our rights and freedoms, under our governing banner, but WE are not represtented, as they continue to kick the legs out from under LIFE.
LIFE ISN'T WORTH LEARNING THE EXPERIENCE LESSON, IF THEIR IS NOT TRUTH TO MAKE CLEAR DECISION.
YES BAY ALL MEANS WITH THIS AFRICAN AMERICAN'S APPROVAL, COME AND STOP THIS DEPRESSING MADNESS OF THE POWERS THAT BOUGHT OUR FREEDOM FROM OUR POLITICIANS.
Lifebringer
8th October 2011, 14:54
Thanks I respect your opinion, but as the time is limited as Michael Jackson and others who were killed stated, WE the oppressed and seriously effected by this greed raid and owning it all life, have to make this decision on our own. It is quite evident that one "race" of humans has been in charge over the life of the humans on this planet. Every shore they sailed brough murder for resources. If you think there are many of you who will be afraid of change, I wish you a happy/continued existance. Me, I'm 53 and have lived it. Saw the 60's revolution stopped in its tracks for progress with the country. The space technology should have been public, but the private companines like KBR, Haliburton and others have halted any progress for this country.
Did you ever wonder who the witnesses to the crime were in the world.
Why do you think they will inherit the earth, they are on the bottom and clearly see all the way to the top, who's doing it.
Bill Ryan
8th October 2011, 15:12
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Hi, All:
The "Do you wish that we show up" piece was written by French ufologist Eric Julien back in 2003.
It was not of ET origin, though he pretended that it was. It was well-intended, but essentially a hoax.
With best wishes, Bill
Omni
8th October 2011, 15:23
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Hi, All:
The "Do you wish that we show up" piece was written by French ufologist Eric Julien back in 2003.
It was not of ET origin, though he pretended that it was. It was well-intended, but essentially a hoax.
With best wishes, Bill
Thanks for the info. Regardless I do believe ETs were paying attention to people's reactions, knowing the level of surveillance achieved...
Billy
8th October 2011, 15:24
------- Hi, All: The "Do you wish that we show up" piece was written by French ufologist Eric Julien back in 2003. It was not of ET origin, though he pretended that it was. It was essentially a hoax. With best wishes, Bill
Hi Bill, The video not coming from ET origin makes no difference. The video had no effect on me personally, You can still give permission as i explained above, Dont you think ???
WhiteFeather
8th October 2011, 15:25
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Hi, All:
The "Do you wish that we show up" piece was written by French ufologist Eric Julien back in 2003.
It was not of ET origin, though he pretended that it was. It was well-intended, but essentially a hoax.
With best wishes, Bill
Bill But The question is, are you ready? And I'm sure you are.
eaglespirit
8th October 2011, 15:42
Yep...the writing was a hoax from some time ago...
...but my heart and messages tell me there is something "appearent' on the wings and why I gave my consent for all to see here in Hughe's thread.
This is truly about personal responsibility and the extreme upgrade of that choice right before our eyes.
grapevine
8th October 2011, 15:43
Whatever . . . . I still say 100% Yes, yes please.
Hughe
9th October 2011, 04:12
Bill,
Thanks for the info.
We need to have at least one fair chance to exercise the free will as one race. Any willing individual can contact, communicate with off-world entities: telepathy, channelling. How about others who would live in amnesia till death?
The critical mass is about 10% of entire population. Little over 600 million is enough number to bring real change in present civilization. Hundreds thousands, maybe a million people express their individual intention to off-world entities as one voice might move alien factions change their strategy. Rather than secretively contact people middle of night or undetectable communication, they will show up major big cities all over the world, stay in the city sky and beam down some of their crews for an hour then take off. Hundreds million will see it.
How the corrupted governments, MSMs react? By the time news come out, the Internet will be flooded by millions of photos and videos. They know our societies are so corrupted from top to bottom. I would any claims that aliens will contact to leaders of governments first as complete hoaxes.
Many Avalon members are contactees. I've contacted aliens in altered state of mind few times. The problem in my case I can't control the communication which makes me wonder what I'm up to. Most of those members will greet if aliens walk into their private space by tomorrow. They might have different reaction but no panic.
Disclosure starts from individuals and spread out. Collective free will as one race. I hope it will happen soon.
PS: manufactured disinformation or well-intended wishful story or channelled message?
Truth tell itself as is.
fifi
9th October 2011, 05:16
I have been praying every day that benevolent ET with the highest good intentions for humanity show up, uncloak their ships, to wake up the mass, and help bring out the truth. We have been lied to for so long by the power elite, this contact with benevolent ET is long overdue, so even if this is a hoax, I still say YES to it. I have prayed for this even before reading this message.
161803398
9th October 2011, 09:20
Wanting ETs to show up to save us is no different from waiting for the arrival of any savior and this is NOT helpful if we are going to save our world. We need to be our own heros; our own Martin Luther Kings; our own Warriors of the Rainbow. Hell, we ARE the Warriors of the Rainbow. So get cracking and stop waiting for Godot.
Plus, Im getting a little sick of these guys surveiling us; floating around up there and doing nada anyway. I feel like I'm in a fishbowl.
Erich
9th October 2011, 11:24
Wanting ETs to show up to save us is no different from waiting for the arrival of any savior and this is NOT helpful if we are going to save our world. We need to be our own heros; our own Martin Luther Kings; our own Warriors of the Rainbow. Hell, we ARE the Warriors of the Rainbow. So get cracking and stop waiting for Godot.
Plus, Im getting a little sick of these guys surveiling us; floating around up there and doing nada anyway. I feel like I'm in a fishbowl.
Did you listen to the whole message?
eaglespirit
9th October 2011, 11:46
Wanting ETs to show up to save us is no different from waiting for the arrival of any savior and this is NOT helpful if we are going to save our world. We need to be our own heros; our own Martin Luther Kings; our own Warriors of the Rainbow. Hell, we ARE the Warriors of the Rainbow. So get cracking and stop waiting for Godot.
Plus, Im getting a little sick of these guys surveiling us; floating around up there and doing nada anyway. I feel like I'm in a fishbowl.
That is what this is all about...and I know in my heart that those in this thread are already doing their "hero" work the best they know how and are able.
This "infiltrated and rigged" distortion is going to change rapidly now...with the real help of our own "higher" extended selves...in plain site...that is why we are here at this very special time.
I am only speaking for myself here...many others are in the same rhythm, imho...this is "family" we are talking about...read the posts here...Each of Our Own Higher Family....helping Us with a "clean-Up"...WE did the work to initiate this and it could only happen now!
Love! Love! Love!
Erich
9th October 2011, 11:56
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Hi, All:
The "Do you wish that we show up" piece was written by French ufologist Eric Julien back in 2003.
It was not of ET origin, though he pretended that it was. It was well-intended, but essentially a hoax.
With best wishes, Bill
Do you know of anything you suspect was actually written by ETs?
Pete
9th October 2011, 12:45
In response to a question or thought our reply is spontaneous, we have simply acted. In that mindlessness we have been graced with an eloquence and clarity we were unaware of. I can site things like wit, poetry creativity and physical prowess. We all have experienced these things and we have witnessed in others.
Personally i do not feel any unease to hear that this film has not been directly produced by an outside agency. To me the content seems genuine and if it allows people to transmit their desire for change and to confirm their non agreement to the status quo, then its a good thing.
My intuition tells me that this call has already been heard. We know from trusted testimony that we are already a long way along this path. There is already enough proof of UFO's and seismic shifts happening behind the scenes.
To my mind, the important thing is to push this along and to take personal ownership of these events. The Occupy movement is the class room of the masses, the time has come when we need to stop the conversation between ourselves and open it up to the people at large.
It's time to stand up and be counted, to say out loud what we believe and what needs to change.
we are the 99.9 and we demand a future :grouphug:
eaglespirit
9th October 2011, 13:10
...and before I go split some wood for an interesting 3d winter ahead of us : )
just gonna share one more of mine from elsewhere because I'm feelin' the rhythm sooo strong...have a Great Sunday All!
.......
Hey...when our higher family and friends show up to help our upgrading adjustments to a Higher Mother Earth that we initiated in our own ways the best we could during this 'clean-up' in 3d...They are US and WE are THEM...only a vibrational tone away that is about to be heard by ALL : ) Gonna vibrate all the 'not so good rigged stuff' into a rainbow of light...what a show : )
Pete
9th October 2011, 14:02
you know it I know it. we must be on the same time line, Live it!
Snowbird
9th October 2011, 15:36
I watched, read, studied and responded to the most recent video message. It makes no difference to me who wrote it or when or what their motive. I directed my affirmative response to my off-Earth family(s) whoever they are and wherever they are.
What I received in return, was a confirmation within, that has become their trademark response, that they had heard and received.
I believe that we are in for a wild treat and response from our off-Earth families. They are here and yes, are watching and yes, I too sometimes am very uncomfortable living in this fishbowl. However, I also welcome them and am genuinely looking forward to our meets and greets. :welcome:
Snowbird
9th October 2011, 16:53
It is interesting to read through the varied intelligent responses within threads concerning our status with our off-Earth neighbors. This topic is so huge! And, this topic depends upon the views and interpretations of each poster as to our potential possible cosmic future(s).
IF, those who appear to have intentions of remaining on Earth through the upcoming cosmic shift and transformation or upliftment, very soon find themselves in an upgraded environment with tremendous potential for long-lasting good, will this be enough for you? In other words, what I'm reading from some people, is some sort of rough and tumble desire to remain on the 3D Earth even after the many tumultuous upheavals, to clean it up and make it better than it is because we, humanity have caused all these problems. What IF you folks find yourselves on a much improved Earth environment? Is this a possibility within you? I'm just wondering.
From my understanding, and I am no expert here, there will remain a 3D Earth that has enormous and massive changes. On this 3D Earth, there will remain those humans who have been and still are to this day, stuck in service-to-self mentality. IMO, this is the reason that all of the underground facilities were built and stocked. And, the seed banks. These were to house, feed and perpetuate these service-to-self humans.
Below, James Horak talks about Do You Wish That We Show Up. He also understands that without their help, the people of Earth most likely will not make it through this. Please give your comments.
No Hope without Help
VUngzJM_v70
http://emvsinfo.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2011-01-01T00:00:00Z&updated-max=2012-01-01T00:00:00Z&max-results=12
Pete
9th October 2011, 18:06
From my understanding, and I am no expert here, there will remain a 3D Earth that has enormous and massive changes. On this 3D Earth, there will remain those humans who have been and still are to this day, stuck in service-to-self mentality. IMO, this is the reason that all of the underground facilities were built and stocked. And, the seed banks. These were to house, feed and perpetuate these service-to-self humans.
Below, James Horak talks about Do You Wish That We Show Up. He also understands that without their help, the people of Earth most likely will not make it through this. Please give your comments.[/COLOR][/B]
From my perspective, It seems that I am already experiencing a new paradigm, there is no great desire for material possessions and I seem to have a far more relaxed view regarding personal responsibilities to family and friendship. I feel a great joy and release welling up inside of me and the notion of fear has all but disappeared. I have let go long term ambition and i am trusting my future more to fate and intuition.
I have no doubt that those who cling on to old ideas will remain on 3D earth, that is their karma, but I think they will be few. I sense a growing disquiet from people around me, and like a surfer, I want to take a ride on that wave of emotion and witness at first hand a momentous period in our evolution and to be a participant, It might be the last time we have the opportunity.
I look forward to a world where the concept of money and the controls it creates are gone and everyone is awoken to a new paradigm of limitless possibilities, creativity, Leisure and exploration and discovery. I hope we can awake many of the people, but given the choice to remain and help those to greedy to accept another point of view or to go and help build a new world, no contest, I want star trek! :
:whoo:
whenyournex2me
9th October 2011, 21:07
I think a very particular shade on this subject... NOW that I have seen an obvious un-explainable event myself with my very own eyes. And I know there is intelligent life out there, watching, some creating, some destroying... And finally we have gotten a grasp on the basic science concepts to understand how this is occurring, Quantum Mechanics for some reason answers many questions I have, which is simply an abstract understanding and systematic rule of our universe.
But YES YES AND YES, the forces that are good, and are here to help Mother Nature, and it's goal of creating life where possible, need to show them selves and inter-vein directly, ASAP. Now, IMO, cause the forces that are against the positive polarity, are winning over and have gone to far. We can only control so much WITH the understanding we have... and the majority have been mislead and believe the lies handed before them. I strongly feel that the only ones that seek are the ones that are brave enough to ask, and question. They seek seek for truth and there is an illusion, although, none of us, will know the difference... We can only relate to our personal experience and thus share that. When I talk with people about such, they say, it doesn't matter, who knows, it's too late, There is nothing we can do about it, it makes me upset. They have been won over to the dark side IMO, giving up is the same as giving up... not seeking for their own and simply, relying on what is provided before them. Know this, and only this, We know nothing, in this state of vibration. We can only relate and notice patterns of difference and similarities. When we see 100 to 1 see think we know something...
I have asked to be shown, and my question has been answered. I am still seeking more, and asking more. My cup is empty now and I am ready for another please. I say, make the event big enough, nullifying the evil while preserving that which is genuinely good. If this doesn't happen, I do not see mankind overcoming the evil themselves, for many reasons. This will be the saddest day I will have to face. And I thought I knew something.... lol
yelik
22nd October 2014, 16:44
Interesting words of wisdom, it's worth a try to ask for ET help.
The elites are probably too powerful to be toppled by the masses alone. we are not organised or speak as one voice, we are a fragmented group!
http://humansarefree.com/2014/10/alien-message-to-mankind-do-you-wish.html
Each one of you wishes to exercise your free will and experience happiness. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.
Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression gives you a certain view of your destiny. Yet you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.
GoodETxSG
22nd October 2014, 16:50
Yipes,
Careful what you "Wish" or ask for, you just might get it...
Bill Ryan
22nd October 2014, 17:03
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Hi, Everyone:
The "Do you wish that we show up" piece was written by French ufologist Eric Julien back in 2003.
It was NOT of ET origin, though he pretended that it was. It was well-intended, but essentially a hoax.
There's already a thread about this, here, from 2011:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32109-Decide-Whether-We-Show-Up
yelik
22nd October 2014, 17:09
The power of mass thought frightens the elites !
A Voice from the Mountains
22nd October 2014, 17:14
My response to such a question would be,
If you want to cooperate in a mutual way as we would see it, and act out of love and not simply to enslave or control us, then yes, I wish that you appear.
If you do not wish to cooperate in a mutual way and act out of love and in our mutual best interests as we see it, then in that case we demand you depart from us.
yelik
22nd October 2014, 17:20
It appears the definition of freewill is misleading
An individual or collective has an expectation and belief that the Government and the ‘laws’ are designed to protect basic human rights such as a right to a good education, right to liberty and privacy, freedom of thought, conscience, religion and expression. However if they have in fact intentionally deceived the people because of the interpretation or meaning of the law we do not have honest free will or choice because important facts within the educational system have been hidden. Furthermore if one tried to go against such laws because important truths have been omitted then we would likely be in trouble with those same laws, but it passes off as freewill. This is not free will in my books.
Free will should not be valid if it is based on any form of lie, deception or twisting of the facts or truth especially if they are to the detriment of the people and are done for the purposes of enslavement and control or even dumb down our evolution.
We therefore do not have free will and as such an advanced benevolent race that has proven to us they wish to help correct such anomalies then I’m good to go.
sheme
22nd October 2014, 19:22
Thread or no thread -I would ask those Noble peace loving souls to help us deliver this Earth from vile and corrupting influences so that the human race with noble intent for the elevation of all vibration and the whole universe may progress /evolve closer to the oneness of the Great Creator. May our lessons be gentle ones.
Earth and her creatures need all the help she can get.
Eric J (Viking)
22nd October 2014, 19:41
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Hi, All:
The "Do you wish that we show up" piece was written by French ufologist Eric Julien back in 2003.
It was not of ET origin, though he pretended that it was. It was well-intended, but essentially a hoax.
With best wishes, Bill
Do you know of anything you suspect was actually written by ETs?
The Phoenix Journels.
George Green Bill's friend helped in the early days. But later went on to write The New Paradigm series. The Journels were sent via radio signals through a transcriber. As for the Paradigm series I am not sure, but awesome information.
Viking
Eric J (Viking)
22nd October 2014, 19:47
Remember all, it does no harm to visualize this.
The power of the mind holds no limits, regardless where the info has come from.
We are what we have thought, and will go where our thoughts are focused.
Viking
Milneman
22nd October 2014, 20:17
Here's a thought:
What if subconsciously we are willing a group of individuals to control the 99%?
one more question to chew on.
What is the one thing that someone who's in trouble, someone who's guilty, wants more than anything else?
Baby Steps
22nd October 2014, 21:57
The good guys are out there but cannot appear due to karma and probably law. I think that the dodgy ones abide by the same law which provides for non mass contact if they are dealing diplomatically with legally designated representatives. Our representatives have betrayed us. If enough of us vote for a mass appearance of benevolent ets I bet they would appear. They already do to the ce5 groups so law allows for that . If we take on the karma by voting yes then they might say hello. Just by appearing , our current paradigm collapses as its corruption is laid bare for all to see. I do feel wisdom and truth in that message, but that doesn't mean it is from an et. I just feel that under an ethical framework this is the kind of thing that they would say. And I do wish they would turn up, not to interfere but to say hi!
FROM MY IMAGINATION
Greetings brave human souls. Now is the time for you to choose which of two timelines you wish to manifest. Either is in accordance with source's greater agenda of soul growth and oneness. Should you actively decide that you wish us to appear by majority vote, you will have assumed the karmic consequences of our appearance. We as a group of benevolent entities are not permitted to involve ourselves in your affairs except by consent. We are not permitted to transfer technology, or ideas, by any way other than consensual psychic contact, unless a special dispensation comes from Source.Such a dispensation is offered by source with regard to your planet. We offer you the opportunity to give consent for us to intervene overtly to stabilise the life support mechanisms of your planet, which are currently in terminal decline. The planet will become an active participant in the restoration of these functions shortly, but the transition can be eased should you wish it.As always, the choice is in your hands. In service, love & light.
ceetee9
22nd October 2014, 22:23
Here's a thought:
What if subconsciously we are willing a group of individuals to control the 99%?
one more question to chew on.
What is the one thing that someone who's in trouble, someone who's guilty, wants more than anything else?
I think it's pretty evident that the vast majority of people consciously--nevermind subconsciously--DO WANT a group of people to control the 99% (preferably 100%, but the 1% won't have that). In this country it's called voting. :)
andrewgreen
23rd October 2014, 00:31
I'm sure many animals think the same thing about the average human, please save us from these 'psychopaths' who keep feeding off us.
East Sun
23rd October 2014, 02:47
It would depend on their intention. We humans have been too dumbed down to not be totally freaked out by their showing up.
We believe all the lies that's thrown our way from politician so they could tell us anything and we'd believe it. We'd be just like the Inca when the Spanish showed up on horses that they did not know existed.
They bowed down to these 'Gods' and were slaughtered in their thousands.
If they were going to help what would want in return?
That would be the question?
gittarpikk
23rd October 2014, 03:12
Interesting words of wisdom, it's worth a try to ask for ET help.
The elites are probably too powerful to be toppled by the masses alone. we are not organised or speak as one voice, we are a fragmented group!
http://humansarefree.com/2014/10/alien-message-to-mankind-do-you-wish.html
Each one of you wishes to exercise your free will and experience happiness. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.
Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression gives you a certain view of your destiny. Yet you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.
wasn't this the same piece that was brought out about that Goodchild (I think it was) woman that was setting a date that The Glactics were to appear...but did not
Camilo
24th October 2014, 02:48
The original source of this information appears to be by Mr. Jean Ederman, now 49, of France, who evidently works in the field of aviation.
He claims to have been a military jet pilot, air traffic controller and airport manager, and to have a masters in economics. He also claims to have had a number of anomalous experiences since the age of six, which later included a number of UFO sightings and ET contacts.
He writes: “… after having learned how to mentally project myself to a place in the presence of benevolent extraterrestrials, I received the following message…”
[Translated from French into English by Dan Drasin, a Marin-based film-maker and researcher].
Each one of you wishes to exercise your free will and experience happiness. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.
Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression gives you a certain view of your destiny. Yet you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.
It is not our responsibility to modify your future without your choosing it. So consider this message as a worldwide referendum, and your answer as a ballot.
Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak knowledgeably about certain unexplained aerial and celestial events that mankind has witnessed for thousands of years.
To know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one’s beliefs or dogmas, however respectable
they may be.
A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new paths of knowledge and are getting very close to reality. Today, your civilization is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less upsetting one, is notably distributed.
Bear in mind that what in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become possible, then realized — in particular in the last fifty years.
Be aware that the future will be even more surprising. You will discover the worst as well as the best.
Many of those who study our appearances point to lights in the night, but without lighting the way. Often they think in terms of objects when it is all about conscious beings.
Who are we?
Like billions of others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that some call “extraterrestrials,” even though the reality is subtler. There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for having experienced certain stages of evolution.
As with any other organized society, a hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours, however, is based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we turn to you.
Like most of you, we are in quest of the Supreme “Being” or “State of Being.”
Therefore we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic Brotherhood. Physically we are somewhat different from you but most of us are humanoid-shaped.
We are not mere observations; we are consciousnesses just like you. Our existence is a reality, but the majority of you do not perceive it yet because we remain invisible to your senses and instruments most of the time.
We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this collective decision on our side, but this is not enough — we need yours as well.
Through this message you can become the decision-makers. You, personally. We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your decision......
Continue reading here: http://earthweareone.com/alien-message-to-mankind-do-you-wish-that-we-show-up/
Harley
24th October 2014, 03:38
Hi Camilo,
This one was already posted HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76265-Alien-Message-to-Mankind-Do-You-Wish-That-We-Show-Up) yesterday.
Thanks tho! :)
Mod edit: threads merged by Atlas.
gardener2
24th October 2014, 07:16
Your right Harley and I am pretty sure it was found to be a hoax
yelik
24th October 2014, 09:15
Whilst the article may well be a hoax , but does it really matter because we cannot deny the message it conveys, where did the idea come from in the first place?
Lifebringer
24th October 2014, 10:04
That's pretty much the prayer/intent/question I put to 'self" before giving permission in 2007. That is how long the question has been posed, but has to hit critical mass. I was assured they needed permission from on high to enter had received it, and now needed our permission. Delores Cannon and others were speaking of this also a couple of times. She said there are beings of light that just can't enter w/out permission and if most of the hearts and minds are not connected they couldn't reach them that way to pose the request of permission. I researched for weeks before answering. When I was comfortable with what I found, I answered because I'm from the aboriginal tribes who seemed to have protection during tough times. Our planet during the Gulf Oil spill, made me realize, that I'd made the right decision.
truth4me
25th October 2014, 13:16
They are ready showed up. We are they..
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jake gittes
2nd November 2014, 03:39
I have experienced an odd string of synchronicity lately via articles involving ET disclosure - a subject not necessarily in my wheel house or go-to subject matter. For that very reason, I felt I should share.
First came coming across a series by Bradley Loves at Jean Haines' blog about "Free Will" and how we can free ourselves. It's a several part series, currently at 10. Here is a sample: http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/10/30/the-great-con-of-man-esoterics-the-supernatural-magicians-mind-control-and-the-new-world-order-part-eight-by-bradley-loves/
Then this from VT by an author who doesn't usually venture into this territory either:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/01/the-greatest-mystery-controversy-and-cover-up-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-568570
And finally, here:
http://earthweareone.com/alien-message-to-mankind-do-you-wish-that-we-show-up/?fb_action_ids=10202858717455865&fb_action_types=og.comments
“Each one of you wishes to exercise your free will and experience happiness. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive. Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression gives you a certain view of your destiny. Yet you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of. It is not our responsibility to modify your future without your choosing it. So consider this message as a worldwide referendum, and your answer as a ballot.”
Atlas
2nd November 2014, 04:14
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