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rosie
2nd November 2010, 14:36
I found this article to be very interesting as it pushes the boundaries once again in the debate of humans evolving from just apes. More proof that we are not just advanced apes!


The hidden extraterrestrial link - sea sponges share almost 70 percent of human genes

Did humans really descended from apes? A recent article, a breakthrough in genome research published in Nature Journal shows that may not be the case. The sea sponges share almost 70 percent of human genes.

Why does sea sponges share almost 70 percent of human genes? What does that have to do to understand a stealth connection between humans and extraterrestrial origin? The answer lies in the sea floor.

According to Jack McClintock, in his article "This Is Your Ancestor," in the genetic tree based on genome analysis sponge was really the base of animal lineage, and just above it were the cnidarians, such as jellyfish, anemones, and corals. They, like the sponge, have a saclike body form. They developed tentacles and an opening like a mouth at one end. But there were other forms of life lower down the line of descent that scientists might not have expected. Suddenly, they made sense. One of the sponge’s cell types is the distinctively shaped choanocyte, a cell equipped with a tiny long filament, called a flagellum, surrounded by a collar studded with even tinier hairs called microvilli. Thousands of these flagella beat constantly at the water and move it past the sponge’s feeding cells.

Yes, animals evolved from deep sea sponges. But why in human genome, 70% of the original genes of sponge is intact? How can that be? Is evolution planned?

That is the key statement. In the DNA-RNA software code, the evolution path and mutation probabilities are also programmed. The humans are destined to be the experimental "advanced intelligent" species. Other animals evolved and mutation took different the branches of the tree of evolution in different directions. But the human evolution remained more or less intact.

Deep sea sponges have extraterrestrial origin. The humans evolved with minimal mutation from it. Other animals are destined to be secondary because of mutation programs in the RNA-DNA.
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/21629.asp
in love & light :wub:

The One
2nd November 2010, 15:18
If people evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys?
Humans did not evolve from monkeys/chimps/apes, we share a common ancestor.
The common ancestor is called a "hominid" and they ARE extinct.
In fact, everything between hominid and homo sapien is extinct: Australopithecus, Erectus, Neanderthal, etc..



Everyone once believed that the Earth was flat, but we found out that it's a sphere.
Everyone once thought that Earth was the centre of the universe and that the Earth is 6000 years old, but because of evidence, that number is getting smaller. Even some Christians are beginning to accept evolution, old universe/earth, etc.
It doesn't matter how many people believe in something. All that matters is evidence.


Mutation can only modify information, not add to it
Genes multiply. If the copies are changed, you get added information.


Humans have fewer chromosomes than chimps
Because chromosomes have fused together. So it's not that there is less information, it's just that there are less chromosomes with the same amount/more information.


You can't trust science
Then what are we doing on the internet? The internet is a product of science.


Abiogenesis can't be tested in a lab

Neither can the idea that man was made from dirt, and woman was made from a man's rib.
Amino acids, the basic building blocks of life, have been produced in a lab. The rest took millions of years to happen naturally, so it's understandable that it hasn't been done instantly in a lab. Not to mention the size of the Earth and all the possible locations where it could have happened.
So it's true, abiogenesis hasn't been fully tested in a lab. But part of it has been successful tested, and NONE of genesis has been tested.

Something can't come from nothing. All the matter in the universe had to come from something

Then where did god come from
The claim that matter came from nothing is false. Matter came from energy. And we KNOW (thanks to Einstein) that matter and energy are interchangeable.
Energy was the cause of simple elements, and fusion in early stars caused higher elements to come from simple elements.

God has always existed
Maybe the universe has always existed... Thus, it didn't have to be created. The truth is, no one knows and no one was there. But just because we don't know, doesn't mean that we can just say that it happened by magic.


Before the universe existed, the laws of the universe didn't exist. And the first law of thermodynamics (energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed) is a law that pertains to the universe. Before there was a universe, there could not have been any "laws of the universe

I don't claim that there is no god, I just don't believe in god. The burden of proof is on the people that make a claim, not the people that don't believe the claim.


The chances of life arising without an intelligent designer are astronomical"
It's not chance, it's chemistry.

Fine tuned universe"
If the universe was fine tuned, then we could live anywhere. But we can only live on 1 planet, in 1 of 10 sixtillion (10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) solar systems (star systems)
Besides, if god could make us however it wanted, it could make us able to survive anywhere. So we wouldn't even need a fine tuned environment.


Irreducibly complexity" (especially the flagellum)
If you take away one part of the flagellum, then it doesn't work. But the individual part can serve a different purpose. Several parts that serve specific purposes can come together to form a different function. No part of the flagellum can't serve a purpose by itself. It's only "irreducibly complex" to someone that doesn't understand it.

I don’t think we will ever really understand how we came to be rosie unless the powers that be fall

Fredkc
2nd November 2010, 15:21
If people evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys?
Because there are somethings even monkeys won't stoop to? ;)
Fred

noxon medem
2nd November 2010, 15:55
Funny.
A Sea Sponge, that is exactly how I have been feeling lately .
:p
Or my brain, more precise.

2766
(stunning similarity)

I think someone else is onto the seasponge clue:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi74Oswr_Vc

Will try to look into the serious side of this later.
Thanks for an interesting thought and a smile.

The One
2nd November 2010, 16:38
Right said Fredkc

I feel a Monkey Migraine coming on better get to KFC mmmmmmm

Teakai
3rd November 2010, 00:13
Because there are somethings even monkeys won't stoop to? ;)
Fred

Good one.
:-)

Arpheus
3rd November 2010, 00:27
I believe i heard or read somewhere that we share like 99 per cent of our DNA with the frogs not sure if its true or not was something like one strand of DNA is different that's about it,can anyone confirm this?

bennycog
3rd November 2010, 12:05
from research we share 98% chimp, 50% bannanas and fruit flies, 70% slug, 99% mice, 74%-94% dogs, 98% rats, 93% orangutang, cant find anything on frogs as of yet..