The Grim Situation of North Korea

[Agape]

This isn't something you should watch after midnight or without your baby sitter at hand, I suggest , it's pretty sad, dark and dull.
I don't like to report bad news generally and this is even no news .. but shows the state of one of the weirdest and saddest places on this planet ,
the Republic of North Korea .
In fact regimes like theirs represent the conundrum of every conspiracy theory . They are extremely hard to understand .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2nhmI8ihAQ

This documentary was filmed by undercover BBC reporters during organised 'tourist trip' to NK , with what seem to be hidden cameras and few 'off road' trips behind the wires of where they were allowed .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCFuOkdUyEQ

Here is something that could make you laugh though I'm not sure it's 'real' NK propaganda video or arbitrary hoax :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA


It's real bad . ;):cool:

There are few other short snippets of documents from NK on youtube , authentic ones being smuggled out for cost of human lives so one has to hope we're not causing more suffering by posting them here ,
if someone wiser is of another opinion please remove the posting soon as possible .



Educate yourself . Send them some prayers ... or whatever you find appropriate , they're also but human beings .

[sigma6]

holy scary this is right out of 1984... What would happen if that book was flooded into the country from planes flyin overhead... they would read it and find out they are actually living in a nightmare...

I couldn't believe the end of the 2nd video where the construction guy (of 35 years) says "As far as I know we are building something called a market" "there is no question that it is being built..." "...but I don't yet know how it will be run..."

Woww... that is so unbelievable, an entire country run like an MK Ultra mind experiment... from birth to death, bloody unbelievable... all to support the lifestyle of one fat overweight spoiled child.

[Zanshin]

To coin a phrase- 'There but for the grace of God go I'

Queensland ain't there yet - but they're giving it their best shot.

Wouldn't hurt if this vision was compulsory viewing before the 'Grand Final' of

whatever mindless pastime tickles your fancy in the gormless 'Bread and Circus'

fare served up to the sleeping majority.

Sigma I'm unsure the fat kid has much of a say in it.

[lucidity]

Hold on, this is blatant and obvious anti-North Korean propoganda.

Someone sat down to edit these videos and made decisions about
what material and what arguments to present in these films.
It seems to me that the guiding principal in these films has been
"the weirdness factor"

Remember that Korea has had foreign powers meddling in it's
internal affairs, over one million people killed in civil
wars funded and instigated by the good old... US of A.

And don't forget that the USA still holds South Korea by the
bollocks and uses it as a vassal state. And the USA has maintained
economic sanctions against North Korea for decades.
North Korea simply hasn't been allowed to develop normally.
Nobody except the Chinese is allowed to trade with North Korea,
and i presume North Korea pours much of it's GDP into preparing
for the next round of slaughter.

These videos make it seem like the people in North Korea are strange.
They're not... they are sentient, conscious human beings... living in
strange circumstances.

North Korea survived a civil war in which a million people
perished and continues to be threatened by the most powerful
nation on Earth. Their situation is extraordinary, the scale of
the human suffering must have been immense... and the fear
and tension continues. And then some BBC propoganda film
shows up and has gaul to suggest these people are weird.

What's next?... 5 years down the road we peer through the
camera lens of a new BBC/CNN/ABC documentary showing just
how paranoid are the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Libya,
Syria, Ukraine...

In the mean time, in the sane and well adjusted West,
we have a fake 'War on Terror', in which the USA massacred
thousands of it's own citizens to promate a false flag war against Al Queda ...
which by some nonsense logic meant invading Afgahnistan to
restore the heroin trade (WTF!) and the a re-invasion of Iraq
to seize oil resources... Oh, and lets rescind American civil liberties
and tear up the US constitution while we're at it.
Oh .. and those disobedient army generals with their fingers on
the nuclear triggers.. let's sack them and replace them with 'yes-men'
So in this context, on reflection... who are the ****ing weirdoes ?

These documentaries are 'programming' your
attitudes ... you're being told what to think.

be happy ... and critical

lucidity :-)

[ulli]

The PTB permit this country to exist, just as they permit Cuba to exist. It helps their agenda, to make people feel grateful for living in a consumer society.

At another level, that of the incarnating soul, it tells me that there are different experiences to be had here, as part of the earth=diversity plane.
So there are many options when it comes to free will...the permissive society at one extreme, and a no choice society at the opposite extreme.
And a whole variety of experiences in between.

So while some souls consider earth as a prison planet, for others it is like a gym, to develop more soul muscle.

[Agape]

These documentaries are 'programming' your
attitudes ... you're being told what to think.



There's nothing but salt , not a pinch .. whole mountain of salt . The problem is .. there's nothing to eat the salt with , no rice so to say .

There's extreme poverty and famine and people dying by millions in those famines ( aka 'depopulation agenda' as you want it ) and the news were not permitted to get out to the world .

There's military regime ruled by extreme ideology and hatred towards all foreign values and against what they see as 'western propaganda' ,
that's not a hoax .

Nothing of that sort emerges 'out of sudden' . But it's very backward and awkward regime .

You may be 'told what to think' but it does not make you to think that , unless you're told what to think everyday from morning to evening and the very idea of freedom is suppressed until it almost dies .

You think 'this is a propaganda' because you think that it's not so bad, because maybe you've never seen anything so bad ..
and you can't feel for those people . Even I find it difficult to 'feel for those people' because the suffering there is too hard,
it's virtually one concentration camp with better and worse quarters ,

most of it is what you can't see .

It makes you want to think what Ulli says, that those people somehow 'deserve it' or chose to experience it because it's so 'unreal' .

It's the very same of many reasons why some can't admit that holocaust happened . It looks 'too unreal' .


So you think that todays average American or European does not have even that much IQ and ability to discern between what is authentic news and what is propaganda ?


In another words , all here, the social media , you or me are useless because it all can be hoaxed ?

The value of individual testimony too is useless because there's no 'solid truth' to rely on ?


Pretty grim, this world if that's true , forgive me .



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[Michael Moewes]

This is so sad for the people there. I feel so hurt how this sick government treats their slaves. can't say it otherwise. The people from NK are all slaves of Kim il sung. If there where a justice in the universe, this couldn't happen. Now I'm depressed. need to watch something positive.
Live healthy
:mad2:

[gardener2]

Must be some very brave souls who chose to incarnate in that country, I am so sad for this country and its people. The sanctions that were forced on them is inhumane how can we allow this?... yet what can we do?

[Michael Moewes]

Yesterday, after this video. I had to watch the Gru movie. afterwards I prayed for these poor people.
I'm not depressed anymore, but keep praying for them.
In effect I may invite everyone to pray for them to be releived from their oppressors and put this suggestion forward to all your spiritual friends.
When we trigger the critical mass we can change something. I just have no calculation how much of us are needed to reach this point.
Live healthy and pray, please.

[sigma6]

Those people are programmed since childhood. When they show footage of places like Palestine, or Africa, or India or Asia, there are still people and markets, but in North Korea, it looks barren and drab, the comments from the Drs about the "missing patients", having radio in your house that can't be shut off? (holy crap!) I would believe it. The biggest giveaway were those scenes where fully grown men and women are ALL crying and waving their arms and running into the water, while the fat prick is leaving on a boat. We see those scenes over and over, like they just don't get how unreal and dysfunctional that must look to the entire planet, so much for "expressing their love" for the "great leader" who is a Western educated Swedish University Student and playboy, a fat pudgy rich kid, aka "the Great Leader". I have seen families raised that way, with lot of severe discipline and punishment, combined with false indoctrination, and social isolation, ie. REAL poor, and they can't help but be socially backward.

You can't fake those scenes, those people were programmed to do that (on pain of death) I do think Western (and other) Powers are supporting that country as a social experiment. I read some research that indicated that people who have Stockholm syndrome, have a more powerful bond then people in more normal loving relationships. To me this has all the hallmarks of a social experiment, finding out the limits of programming an entire society. How feasible would it be to control their entire lives from birth to death. Total mind control manipulation. People being mentally socially, and economically abused. The ONLY explanation that makes sense is that it is a social experiment. And his education leads to the possibility that he may have contacts outside North Korea. Otherwise I can't see how this country is even allowed to exist.

Someone is doing live human social experimentation on that country.

[sandy]

Not sure we are so different??? How many followers, waving, crying, reaching out to be touched by the Queen, Pope, President, etc, is shown on the media over and over.................different cultures and rulers but all the same conditioning and programming IMHO.

One way to make a difference and possibly help the world at large, is to break out of our own conditioning and comfort zones and take back our personal integrity, morality, and power and enact Natural Law (do no harm) right here in our own backyard :) Role Model breaking the matrix of an outside authority having the power of rule anything or anyone.

[Agape]

I've seen a piece of footage on youtube , few years ago , even before all this war mongering and nuclear weapon threat flared up ,
I'm not sure it's still there .. I'd have to look . It was so disturbing ( and I thought I have good nerves and seen a lot ) that I did not dare to show or share it with anyone .
I think there was also age restriction placed on that footage . It later became part of a documentary .
It showed people trying to run from North Korea to China, in winter , over frozen river that is 3 or 4 kilometres wide ( 2 or 3 miles ) and would be impossible to cross by simple means in any other time of the year .
Now if you imagine that they're trying to escape to China where situation is bad for millions of people in rural areas who live on poverty line it says something .

To get to the Chinese side , they had to hire a guide .. to take them safely over the frozen river , not only it's a heavily patrolled place but also the ice cover and snow on top are uneven and crash under your feet , the cross-over takes more than few hours hours to accomplish and chances you fall and drown or freeze are high .
That's not all ! So in the temperatures deep bellow freezing point , in time between midnight and morning , these people had to get naked ( !!!) , pack their cloth to a pack and place it on their heads ... and run ..

the thing is , if they kept cloth on the cloth soak water and freeze and because it's so cold they'd freeze earlier than the escapees get to the other side of the river .

They filmed some of it with night camera . There were several frozen corpses in the middle of the icy river on their way .

On the Chinese side , if they get caught .. such was the case of the victims of this documentary , they're placed to refugee detention centre and returned back to NK , in accordance with agreements these 2 countries hold and in North Korea they automatically end up in prison camp .


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There's also piece of good news ... despite all the odds ...




http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29967561

North Korea frees detained US men Miller and Bae

Two Americans who were being held in detention in North Korea, Matthew Todd Miller and Kenneth Bae, have been released and are on their way home.

US Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is accompanying the men, the US has confirmed.

Their release follows that of a third American, Jeffrey Fowle, last month.

The US had accused North Korea of using the detained Americans as pawns in a diplomatic game, a charge the North Koreans had denied.

'Hostile acts'
The US department of state said in a statement that it "welcomes the release of US citizens Kenneth Bae and Matthew Todd Miller from the DPRK [North Korea], where they have been held for two years and seven months, respectively".

Mr Miller, 24, had been sentenced to six years' hard labour in September for what North Korean state media described as "hostile acts".

He had been in custody since 10 April when, according to North Korean sources, he destroyed his tourist visa and demanded asylum.

Mr Bae had been arrested in November 2012 as he entered the north-eastern port city of Rason, a special economic zone near North Korea's border with China.

He has been described as both a tour operator and Christian missionary. North Korea said he used his tourism business to form groups to overthrow the government.

He was sentenced to 15 years' hard labour in May 2013.

[norman]

INSIDE NORTH KOREA IN 2025 (intense)
Matt and Julia - Apr 11, 2025

Pack your bags, we're traveling to Pyongyang, North Korea (the DPRK).
North Korea's borders are still officially closed to foreign tourists, but, we found a way to get access and travel to Pyongyang, the capital of the DPRK.
We want to find out what has been happening here over the past 5 years.
North Korea hasn't officially reopened, and for the purposes of this trip, we aren't actually tourists.

North Korea is a country we all hear so much about on the news, often for the wrong reasons. But we want to learn more about the people of North Korea and their lives in 2025.

Join us as we travel to Pyongyang, North Korea and explore one of the most secretive and isolated countries on Earth.

Matt and Julia's arrival in Pyongyang airport is at 6 minutes into the video. They are not officially tourists for this adventure, they are officially visiting amateur athletes.

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[norman]

First Tourist in North Korea’s Capital After 5 Years
Harry Jaggard - Apr 9, 2025

There is a big difference between a government and its people. North Korea DPRK is no exception.


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Inside North Korea – The Strangest Country on Earth
Harry Jaggard - Apr 13, 2025

Visiting North Korea DPRK completely changed my perspective. Beyond the headlines, I met some of the kindest people—warm, welcoming, and human, just like the rest of us. It reminded me that sometimes, our perceptions are shaped more by politics than by people.

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[norman]

Yet another man's take on the same 'invited athletes' experience in DPRK.

First time in North Korea: The Propaganda is Working
Oli Barrett Travel - Apr 14, 2025


Today, I head to Pyongyang as one of the first foreigners to set foot inside North Korea's Capital City after five years of total isolation.

No WiFi. No social media. No idea what to expect. My first day in Pyongyang felt like stepping onto another planet — one with government slogans on every wall, a permanently smiling guide, and a silence that speaks volumes.

This vlog captures the raw, unfiltered experience of touching down in one of the world’s most secretive countries. No commentary-heavy deep dives — just the sights, sounds, and surreal moments of a very strange first day.


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[Michel Leclerc]

Hold on, this is blatant and obvious anti-North Korean propoganda.

Someone sat down to edit these videos and made decisions about
what material and what arguments to present in these films.
It seems to me that the guiding principal in these films has been
"the weirdness factor"

Remember that Korea has had foreign powers meddling in it's
internal affairs, over one million people killed in civil
wars funded and instigated by the good old... US of A.

And don't forget that the USA still holds South Korea by the
bollocks and uses it as a vassal state. And the USA has maintained
economic sanctions against North Korea for decades.
North Korea simply hasn't been allowed to develop normally.
Nobody except the Chinese is allowed to trade with North Korea,
and i presume North Korea pours much of it's GDP into preparing
for the next round of slaughter.

These videos make it seem like the people in North Korea are strange.
They're not... they are sentient, conscious human beings... living in
strange circumstances.

North Korea survived a civil war in which a million people
perished and continues to be threatened by the most powerful
nation on Earth. Their situation is extraordinary, the scale of
the human suffering must have been immense... and the fear
and tension continues. And then some BBC propoganda film
shows up and has gaul to suggest these people are weird.

What's next?... 5 years down the road we peer through the
camera lens of a new BBC/CNN/ABC documentary showing just
how paranoid are the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Libya,
Syria, Ukraine...

In the mean time, in the sane and well adjusted West,
we have a fake 'War on Terror', in which the USA massacred
thousands of it's own citizens to promate a false flag war against Al Queda ...
which by some nonsense logic meant invading Afgahnistan to
restore the heroin trade (WTF!) and the a re-invasion of Iraq
to seize oil resources... Oh, and lets rescind American civil liberties
and tear up the US constitution while we're at it.
Oh .. and those disobedient army generals with their fingers on
the nuclear triggers.. let's sack them and replace them with 'yes-men'
So in this context, on reflection... who are the ****ing weirdoes ?

These documentaries are 'programming' your
attitudes ... you're being told what to think.

be happy ... and critical

lucidity :-)

To add to your remarks, Lucidity – it is not well known, I fear, that only some sort of wisdom Truman still had prevented the AEE (American Exceptionalist Entity (formerly called the United States of America)) from bombing the border zone between North Korea and China with one hundred (100 (one hundred)) nuclear warheads, as was MacArthur’s intention to do.

Also North Korea was the test zone for napalm blanketing by the AEE (long before Indochina) – it has been said that every Korean family out of three has a family member poisoned and killed by napalm. One would grow patriotic for less.

As for the citizens of the AEE, who are patriots to psychotic levels by definition, I would suggest that they start paying reparations payments for each and every of those Korean dead as well as for the stilted lives they have contributed in creating for the survivors and their offspring.

There are no mistakes one forgets. There are only sins one feels guilty for.

[norman]

This video provides a large amount of historical information about DPRK's relationship with the rest of the world. It even provides detailed financial information about the boost it got from supporting Russia against 'Ukraine', involving numbers that dwarfs anything their various attempts at raising money from tourism has ever achieved.

As the video was uploaded only 20 hours ago I don't understand why it's titled as it is. Maybe it's a reupload.


This Is Why You Can't Go to North Korea Anymore
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[norman]

North Korea The Media Don't Show You
Matt and Julia - Apr 18, 2025

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[Johnnycomelately]

Not everybody’s Breaking News, but for DPRK watchers this should be interesting,

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/north-korea-warship-launch-accident-1.7540680

Kim Jong-un slams North Korean warship launch accident as 'criminal act': state media

Initial report from state media did not make clear if there were any casualties

Thomson Reuters · Posted: May 21, 2025 9:11 PM MDT | Last Updated: 8 hours ago


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A serious accident occurred on Wednesday during the launch of a new North Korean warship while leader Kim Jong-un was attending the event, and he called it a "criminal act" that could not be tolerated, state media KCNA reported.

Kim, who witnessed the failed launch of the more-than-4,500-tonne destroyer, said the incident was caused by "carelessness" that tarnished the country's dignity, and ordered the ship to be restored before a key ruling party meeting in June, KCNA said on Thursday.

The report did not mention whether there were any casualties.

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KCNA said the incident at the eastern port of Chongjin was caused by a loss of balance while the vessel was being launched and it said sections of the bottom of the warship were crushed, but it did not give more details of damage sustained.

The report noted that Kim "made stern assessment saying that it was a serious accident and criminal act caused by absolute carelessness, irresponsibility and unscientific empiricism which is out of the bounds of possibility and could not be tolerated."

State's dignity brought 'to a collapse': Kim

Kim said the accident "brought the dignity and self-respect of our state to a collapse." He said that an immediate restoration of the destroyer was "not merely a practical issue but a political issue directly related to the authority of the state."

South Korea's military said the stricken warship was sideways in the water after the failed launch.

Intelligence authorities in South Korea and the United States had been monitoring the activities in advance, Seoul's Joint Chiefs of Staff spokesperson Lee Sung-jun told a briefing.

The rare public disclosure of an accident followed a report about the launch of another destroyer of a similar size in April at the west coast shipyard of Nampho. Kim also attended that launch.

North Korea has previously experienced accidents such as space launch vehicle failures and civilian disasters that have subsequently been used to promote the role of the leadership and the ruling Workers' Party in correcting the problems.

The more-than-4,500-tonne destroyers launched by North Korea this year are the country's largest warships yet.

In a report last week on preparations for the most recent launch, U.S.-based 38 North said it appeared the ship would be side-launched from the quay, a method not previously observed in North Korea.

"The use of this launch method could be one of necessity, as the quay where the ship is being built does not have an incline," the 38 North report said.

Commercial satellite imagery of the shipyard the day before the launch showed the destroyer positioned on the quay with support vessels by its side.

A North Korea expert based in Seoul said Pyongyang's disclosure was surprisingly swift.

"It shows again Kim Jong-un's ruling style of cutting off negative rumours from spreading and controlling officials more forcefully by being open about it rather than hiding it," said Cheong Seong-chang of the Sejong Institute.