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Muzz
6th November 2014, 08:16
From RT


Florida police handed out citations and threatened to arrest two priests and a 90-year-old veteran volunteer for feeding the homeless. A recently passed city ordinance makes sharing food a citable offense.

Fort Lauderdale police removed at least three volunteers, as well as the Sunday lunch they were serving to several dozen homeless people, citing a controversial new ordinance that prohibits food sharing. Passed in October, the measure was created to try to cut down the growing population of homeless people in Fort Lauderdale.

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Article link (http://rt.com/usa/201983-florida-homeless-hate-law/)

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maurice
6th November 2014, 09:31
Outrageous ! This is the land of the brave and home of the free ? this is what they call justice for all ? Is this change we can believe in ? Is this how the American empire finally falls ? Dear God . Is there anything they have not made illegal yet ? give the bstrds another week or two . Thank you for putting this up Murray .

Marianne
6th November 2014, 11:36
This truly sad. Hopefully all the negative publicity it's receiving will have Ft. Lauderdale looking at their ordinances.

Krist
6th November 2014, 12:01
Police say "It's my job".....It's part of every other americans job to show civil disobedience in these situations.

Roisin
6th November 2014, 12:10
How to solve this problem?

More affordable housing

Homeless individuals report a lack of affordable housing as the number one reason for becoming homeless. This inadequacy must be remedied in order to get people off the streets and out of shelters. Many non-profit organizations are in operation to serve this need—for example, the National Low Income Housing Coalition—but most lack the funding necessary to create enough housing. Several proposed policy measures are designed to secure such funding, such as the National Housing Trust Fund, but these have not been signed into law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States

Circe
6th November 2014, 12:10
This just makes your heart sink, it really does.

Observer1964
6th November 2014, 12:17
a quote comes to my mind

“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
~ Voltaire ~

Roisin
6th November 2014, 12:42
What do they live on?

Each person or family gets a monthly allocation of food stamps but because they are homeless and don't have kitchens to cook in, they have to purchase expensive ready made foods instead hence using up their monthly allocation sometime during the second week of each month. If they had a kitchen, they could buy large bags of rice to mix with canned vegetables as one example to stretch out the money they get for food each month. Bags of potatoes go a long way too but with no kitchen for food preparation, they end up using their monthly food allotment way before the month is over.

Also, there are food banks too that supply them with enough food to last for 3 days. Their names are in the food bank network via computer so there is no way for them to cheat the system. It's once a month, that's it.

But most of the food they get from those food banks require a kitchen to prepare the food in. For example, what can a homeless person do with a 5 lb bag of cornmeal or a tube of frozen ground turkey with no kitchen?

Seeker of Knowledge
6th November 2014, 13:04
This planet is becoming stranger and stranger to live on. Just imagine for one minute that you are an off worlder and came for a visit! So now its against the law to give food to a human BUT it is not against the law to feed a homeless dog or cat, find a home for them and feel compassion and love for their situation. You are considered to be a good samaritan if do that. What surprises me the most I think is that people in the area including elected officials that are "supposedly" working for their people are not doing something about this most absurd, psychopathic law. It worries me that humankind has lost all common sense.

Pam
6th November 2014, 13:22
The ultimate goal of this community is to generate revenue,making money is all that matters. So, if you don't feed homeless people maybe they will go somewhere else, this will make it a more lucrative environment for shop owners to sell their trinkets. In the US, money and making money for corporations is the top priority. This is really sad but true. When I say this, I am referring to governments. Obviously there are individuals that feel differently.

Ahnung-quay
6th November 2014, 13:33
This country has a long tradition of helping others. My grandmother fed hobos who were riding the rails in the Depression era of the 1930's.

Homelessness today is rooted in joblessness but, there are also many psychiatric patients who we are not hospitalizing anymore and many addicts contributing to the situation.

When we lose compassion, we cease to be hu-man. It seems that these cities would be farther ahead if they subsidized housing in exchange community service, started community gardens, etc.

Enforcing non-compassion is ridiculous and will do nothing to attract visitors or business to their city. People living in their hearts with a goal of achieving oneness with All should boycott them and pray for them.

Roisin
6th November 2014, 14:02
They need to set up community facilities that will allow for several family's at a time to live in including single people too. For those who obviously are not employable, they should be permitted to reside in those facilities on a permanent basis.

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As it is right now, those homeless shelters have limits on how long the homeless can live there before being pushed out on the streets again. Then they have wait another 6 mos or so before they are eligible for a temporary stay at a shelter again.... and here we are talking about nationwide. So that means they can't just pick up and move to another State to search for a new homeless shelter because it's already in a network data system that they had used up their time for shelter somewhere else. Plus there are State residency requirements too. In addition to this, there's a very long waiting list anyways when it comes to homeless shelters even if they are eligible to live in one .... again.

The length of stay per shelter varies for each State.... but at any rate, we are only talking about a few months max.

Another possible solution to this problem is using the Israeli Kibbutz Model. A community residence comprised of families located on a plot of land for them to grow their own food.

http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.368644.1308526229!/image/3129741966.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/3129741966.jpg

Pam
6th November 2014, 14:09
I borrowed this from The most dangerous superstition thread:





"The Myth of Authority"

There is a harsh contrast between what we are taught is the purpose of “authority” (to create a peaceful, civilized society) and the real-world results of “authority” in action. Flip through any history book and you will see that most of the injustice and destruction that has occurred throughout the world was not the result of people “breaking the law,” but rather the result of people obeying and enforcing the “laws” of various “governments.” The evils that have been committed in spite of “authority” are trivial compared to the evils that have been committed in the name of “authority.”

Nevertheless, children are still taught that peace and justice come from authoritarian control and that, despite the flagrant evils committed by authoritarian regimes around the world throughout history, they are still morally obligated to respect and obey the current “government” of their own country, They are taught that “doing as you’re told” is synonymous with being a good person, and that “playing by the rules” is synonymous with doing the right thing. On the contrary, being a moral person requires taking on the personal responsibility of judging right from wrong and following one’s own conscience, the opposite of respecting and obeying “authority.”

The reason it is so important that people understand this fact is that the primary danger posed by the myth of “authority” is to be found not in the minds of the controllers in “government” but in the minds of those being controlled, One nasty individual who loves to dominate others is a trivial threat to humanity unless a lot of other people view such domination as legitimate because it is achieved via the “laws” of “government.” The twisted mind of Adolf Hitler, by itself, posed little or no threat to humanity. It was the millions of people who viewed Hitler as “authority,” and thus felt obligated to obey his commands and carry out his orders, who actually caused the damage done by the Third Reich. In other words, the problem is not that evil people believe in “authority”; the problem is that basically good people believe in “authority,” and as a result, end up advocating and even committing acts of aggression, injustice and oppression, even murder.

Omni
6th November 2014, 14:38
Is the mainstream media touching this story? Anyone know? This is quite disheartening, sickening even. I have been homeless before for a short period of time. I stole apples to eat(which were quite easy to steal)... I know when your tummy is grumbling and you have no money or way to get food, stealing becomes the next option. Our society is so messed up, but who can change it? Who could possibly end the slave money system and capitalism, and what on earth would be the alternative? I see things getting worse before they get better... I have faith our society will be a utopia one day, but how long that will take is anyone's guess.....

Ricker
6th November 2014, 15:00
Tell them homeless to come to New York. We will not only feed you but give you a house and cellphone. (No English Required):p

Ricker

observer
6th November 2014, 15:15
From RT


Florida police handed out citations and threatened to arrest two priests and a 90-year-old veteran volunteer for feeding the homeless. A recently passed city ordinance makes sharing food a citable offense.

Fort Lauderdale police removed at least three volunteers, as well as the Sunday lunch they were serving to several dozen homeless people, citing a controversial new ordinance that prohibits food sharing. Passed in October, the measure was created to try to cut down the growing population of homeless people in Fort Lauderdale.

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Article link (http://rt.com/usa/201983-florida-homeless-hate-law/)

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Being from an area where heroin addicts are encouraged to migrate due to State mandated welfare programs, such as: lots of available low income and free housing, abundant methadone treatment facilities, very little police harassment to the availability of drugs, I can sympathies with the honest citizens of Fort Lauderdale, and their quest to clean-up a bad situation.

Unfortunately, for the residents of fort Lauderdale, the city is located in an area where the migration of homeless people is a destination, much like the area where I live is for the disenfranchised from the inner cities of the Northeast Corridor. Along with these migrations come higher crime, street violence, community decay, and all sorts of crumbling social structure, all of which our elected officials turn a blind eye. It is economically beneficial to the bankers who control the social order for these situations to fester and grow.

The homeless situation is truly a tragedy of our times, and one can point their finger directly at the Global Elite for creating the situation.

The solution, however should not include more draconian laws targeting compassionate individuals intent on helping a hopeless situation.

The solution should be directed at the Global Elite. 85 individuals now control more wealth than 3.5 billion of the world's poorest people. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2014/01/23/the-85-richest-people-in-the-world-have-as-much-wealth-as-the-3-5-billion-poorest/) [click-on "Continue To Site"]

Herein lies the obscenity. Herein lies the "problem-action-solution".

gardener2
6th November 2014, 15:23
Hello Peterpam so you hit it right on the nail it will take an awful lot of public servant's to stand up and say NO to these shameful act's unfortunately, they are in fear it takes guts to fight for humanity, people are so afraid for their family they need to look at the big picture here, it will take a lot of courage but it can be done. Look at the courage of one man Ghandi.

Roisin
6th November 2014, 15:30
They move to those warmer weather locations, like Florida, to wait things out before they are eligible again to live in a shelter in their home States up north.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
6th November 2014, 21:18
The people who passed that ordinance should be put on a boat to Cuba, with a hole in it.

They should get a taste of their own cruelty.

Thanks for updating us on this HUGE issue.
They try pulling this depopulation crap on the Seattle homeless too, but they are more organized and younger.

risveglio
7th November 2014, 00:20
The state can't have this guy feeding the homeless. That is the state's job. If the state lets people see that people can be generous to people to help those in need then people will see that there is no real need for the state. That is why there are rules like this.

maurice
7th November 2014, 17:32
The people who passed that ordinance should be put on a boat to Cuba, with a hole in it.

They should get a taste of their own cruelty.

Thanks for updating us on this HUGE issue.
They try pulling this depopulation crap on the Seattle homeless too, but they are more organized and younger.

Unfortunately the people who are responsible for this are already on a luxury yacht in the french riviera , gambling away your pension fund in Monaco to fund the next project at CERN or some other half assed black project like the JSF . Dont worry ,they already have their priorities organised . They have homes too . One here ,one in florida, couple on lac leman , two in a swanky new york suburb and a bug out under iron mountain . real estate ,its what this planets all about .And if you dont own a planet your homeless .

Meggings
16th November 2014, 00:37
Arnold Abbott’s on a mission to feed the homeless and he won’t let a newly enacted law in Fort Lauderdale stand in his way.
Abbott’s been cited with a criminal violation three times since the city’s ban on “public food sharing” went into effect Oct. 22. His most recent arrest came Wednesday night (November 12th), according to WSVN.com. The station reported that Abbott, as promised, was out on Fort Lauderdale Beach feeding the homeless Wednesday when local police parted the crowd to issue the elderly man his third criminal citation. They did, however, allow him to continue feeding the hungry who had gathered.

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/3rd-arrest-90-year-old-man-who-feeds-homeless