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David Allen

6th November 2014, 18:38

Hello everyone --

I am a new member, and wanted to share my story in hopes that I could get comments and input from others about their experiences with these subjects.

My story: About 2 1/2 years ago, I was sitting in the my cardiologist's waiting room (I was there to have my final echo cardiogram prior to my "emergency open heart surgery" which was to be scheduled a few days later -- I had already seen the surgeon, and was told I needed surgery yesterday!) All sorts of thoughts were running through my head. Would I die? Would I be incapacitated? What would happen to my loved ones, etc. There was such a build up of nervous energy. I closed my eyes, and I heard a click or a snap at the same time I saw a crisscross of white light. The next thing I knew, I heard my name being called to go in to the to have my test. I realized that some time had passed, but it seemed instantaneous.

I was lying on the table while a technician was performing the test. I realized he was concerned, as he was taking much longer than usual. He asked me to wait where I was, went out, and returned with another technician. She helped him to repeat the procedure. They weren't talking to me, they were whispering to each other. I could sense their concern. Again, I was told to wait. They both left, and about 20 minutes later they returned with the cardiologist. (The Doc is in the same practice as my very good friend who is a heart surgeon, as well as the surgeon who was going to operate on me). Ray (the cardiologist) then repeated the procedure along with the two technicians, and they were talking quietly. Ray asked the technicians to leave, and then asked me what I had been doing. I didn't know what he meant. He told me that my condition had reversed itself (never before had he seen this happen), and not only was I out of the danger zone, I was very close to normal. What happened was my left ventricle (which had previously showed severe enlargement with blood seeping back into it had gone back to almost its normal size, and showed no leakage). I told him that I had been meditating ever since I was told that I had needed the surgery. He simply laughed, and said that we should bottle whatever it was, and we would become rich. He contacted the surgeon, and later when the surgeon reviewed the results, I was told that I did not need the surgery, and I should just follow up with another echo cardiogram in about a year. I can't tell you how happy this made me.

Another unusual occurrence: I had developed type II diabetes about 3 years prior, and I was taking both slow acting and fast acting insulin daily in very high doses. During this time, I was having low blood sugar spikes regularly, and kept reducing my insulin. The ow blood sugar spikes continued, and finally I decided to stop all the insulin completely, establish a new blood sugar baseline, and then reintroduce insulin in increments until I stabilized my blood sugar at a normal level. Once I stopped the insulin, my blood sugar remained normal. I don't mean better, I mean perfectly normal. 80 in the morning, and 120 after meals. I have not taken insulin since.

Next interesting occurrence: I had been diagnosed with asthma 3 years prior. During this time, I did not use my inhaler at all. Since this time, I have used it rarely, and was not even sure that I needed it.

At the onset of my meditation I developed a hunger to study Quantum Physics. Strange because I had no interest in physics, science, or math. Day and night I was on the internet and then a strange thing occurred. During meditation and sleep I began receiving downloads of information. So much information I could not sort it or access it. It just kept coming. I felt as though there was a being communication with me. After about 2 years of this, I realized I was also communicating back to this being. I felt he was male. The personal banter seemed to develop in a very light-hearted manner with a bit of humor. One night I asked for some evidence that I was not making this up. Later that night I woke up from my sleep and walked out on my balcony (I often do this as I have 3 Siberian Husky puppies who love visits). Something told me to to look up. I did, and to my amazement there were 6 crafts which crossed from the west over my home to the east (I live on a mountain). They danced in close proximity in the east, and then vanished. While they were overhead, I called my partner to come outside. He witnessed them as well. While they were directly overhead, a gust or mist or something came from the north, went through my body (I felt it and my partner saw it). It passed through me and went south and vanished. It appeared misty as do sightings of apparitions. The crafts continued to come for a few months. Two other friends witnessed them, but would not open their mouths to talk about them, nor would they reply to my inquiries about them. It was like I was saying nothing to them. They both would purse their lips and appear to not be listening.

About 6 months ago I was driving in my 4 x 4 with my partner and one of the friends who witnessed the crafts over my home. It was about 8 p.m., dark and I was coming to a stop sign. To the left and about 200 feet high appeared a craft. It was huge with a round curved white light shining down on the truck. I stopped the truck, put down my window, and stared hypnotically at the light and the front of the craft. My mind kept telling me it was an airplane, but it was hovering, it made no noise, and it was not shaped like any airplane I had ever seen. I thought I could see beings in a front curved window staring at me. The next thing I knew, I was driving home. But I was further along the road than were I had stopped. I had turned right, and was now driving down a main road. I was about 1/4 of a mile further than my last memory. I spoke about it. My partner replied. He remember it going over the truck and traveling to our left. I had no such memory. My other friend never opened her mouth, she only made that same face with the pursed lips. When we arrived home, she went to bed, and again, never spoke about it.

Fast forward to October 2014. I had been in contact with Jerry Wills. He asked if I had ever had an Ayahuaska ceremony. I had not, however, I had done much research as I was considering it. He had no idea about that. Anyway, he recommended a Shaman and I called and made a reservation to go.

On October 15 I was in Iquitos Peru having my first Ayahuaska ceremony. I was told that I would throw up, and first experience all of what I had not dealt with in my subconscious during this lifetime. I didn't believe that would happen, as I have dealt with what I thought was all of it during the 2 1/2 years of meditation.

While others began to vomit and cry, I had a sense of heightened alertness and clarity. The Shaman was concerned for me, as she felt I was not having an experience. One hour into the ceremony she called me to have another dose of the plant. I returned to my mat, and again continued my calm heightened alert state. I felt a merging with the plant, as a being (female), and felt her pass through first all of my abdominal organs as if cleansing and medication them. Then I felt her in my heart -- a feeling of healing and closeness. A few minutes later she passed through all of my veins to all parts of the body and to the extremities. What an incredible euphoric feeling of bliss and well being. My brain felt like there was a lot of energy focused in it's center or core. I was sitting on the mat, legs extended, and I proceeded to lie my body flat onto the floor forward. A stretch I could never perform during my life (I was a fitness professional and athlete but could not do this).

OK so now I sit up, the Shaman is still concerned, and I reassure her that I feel incredible and all is well. I look to my left and I see a craft (the same as the ones at my home, but closer) moving to the right and when it gets directly in front of me it hovers perfectly still. Then from the right comes another identical craft which moves very close to the existing craft and hovers as well. I mention to everyone that they are there, and they appear to be the ones I have previously experienced. Nobody seems at all interested. Nobody comments. I stare at them for some time, while I notice the Shaman goes outside. I decide to get up and go outside where I see the Shaman busying herself about some trees, and I go over to her and again point out the space crafts. Again, she appears uninterested and says nothing. I stare at them for quite some time, and return back inside and go to my bed (mattress on floor, covered with mosquito net). I sit in the lotus position (again not something I ever do) and begin to sit quietly. The communication begins, the same as at home only this time I have much more power and control in my return telepathic conversation. It felt to me as if this communication was sorting out and categorizing as well as organizing all the communications I have received for the past 2 1/2 years. Like they were being filed and my brain was getting calmed. (I had previously felt that I had an overload of information and it felt overwhelming -- but tonight it was being processed).

During my back and forth communication I asked the being for some more evidence that he was the same being as at my home. Suddenly my face was sprayed with water. I was inside, and there was no running water. There was nobody near me and I laughed. During the night he stayed with me, and we would joke back and forth lightly, and he would spray me with water. I never slept and got sprayed even after the sun had come up. There was no water on the mosquito net only 18" above my head, but my face and neck would get wet. I could hear it hit the mattress (plastic covered), and my pillow and sheet were also wet.

I had planned to stay there for two weeks for several ceremonies. However, the being told me that I was doing just fine, and that I had gotten what I came there for. He told me to "Just have fun". He said "You know you love food, go to Lima and eat and have fun", "leave now". I mentioned that I had paid for two weeks and that I didn't want to offend the Shaman. I was told "Do whatever you want, but have fun, you need to have fun.... Lighten up..... Don't take this so seriously..... You are doing just fine..... all is well..... Just go..... go now.... you are not a prisoner here or anywhere...... just go have fun...... have more fun in your life".

When the Shaman came by I told her I wanted to leave. She was very concerned and thought that I didn't enjoy my experience, or that she and her family had done something to offend me. I told here that I had a wonderful experience. She could keep all the money I had given her for the two weeks, but I needed to go to Lima. We then discussed what she had seen. (I didn't tell her anything of my experience). She told me that there was a very powerful light being from Serious over me the entire night laughing, playing with me, and spraying water on me. This was incredible! She mentioned that she communicated with him, and he told her I was a "playful baby -- so sweet", and that I was coming in to knowing my power, and I was doing just fine.

Well, it took a lot of convincing, but we left in about 30 minutes. The Ayahuaska stayed with me for a couple of days, and my "psychic ability" grew exponentially. I had a brief moment of thought about doing something when I got home, and when I got home, it unfolded tenfold without me doing anything but mentioning it.

As a side note, I have a life between lives regression scheduled in New York on December 30 (my close friend's 50th birthday is new year's eve). And then that same friend and I are going to Costa Rica as she is super exited to have an Ayahuaska experience as well.

Please reply or send Mail with anything you may consider interesting.

Peace Love Light
David:panda:

TargeT

6th November 2014, 19:13

Very interesting experiences, welcome to the board..

I have not had (or not recognized) any experiences of the caliber you explained in this post if you have any talent as a writer perhaps you have a book on your hands ;)

David Allen

6th November 2014, 19:53

Thanks for you kind words!

eaglespirit

6th November 2014, 20:04

Love You David,
Thank You for Sharing Openly, Beautiful!!!

Our Occurrences of Higher Ways and Means are about to BE-Come the Norm...We'll be talking : )
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betoobig

6th November 2014, 20:04

Thanks so much for sharing. I have never heard of an experience with ayahuasca like that. I hope you are enjoying your path as the being said.
Wellcome
Love

Mark

6th November 2014, 20:43

Welcome to PA, David. Your Experiences are amazing. Looking forward to more of your postings.

David Allen

6th November 2014, 20:52

Thank you -- This is the first time I have shared this with anyone!

Mark

6th November 2014, 20:54

That is the case for many of us here. You will find a contentious, loving, rambunctious, amazing and fateful experience here at PA. Just like in life. Enjoy. :)

David Allen

6th November 2014, 20:55

Please let me know what you ayahauska experiences were like. I am very curious about the experiences of others. If you aren't comfortable posting it, you can write privately. Thanks

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Thanks, I look forward to it.

eaglespirit

6th November 2014, 21:29

Ayahuasca...Much like Yours, David...no regurgitation....I was brought INTO the Web of Life....I was told when I had gotten all I needed after a number of Ceremonies in Peru and then continued with San Pedro(my Spirit medicine) and once again told when I had gotten all I needed there too..simply was shown that I could continue with other Shaman or Other Places if I chose....with any Plant Medicine I wanted.

The Higher Road IS Paved with Love and IS Here, Now...
We simply need to walk and talk and "Do" IT!!! : )

We are IN the "DOING" Acceleration and You are Here for Powerful and Wonderful Higher Reasons right now...WE are bringing Spirit on the Computer...It IS BE-Coming Spirit...the ALL of the Internet Now...We ARE Consciously Doing It Together...Love You!
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Changing the World to the Living and Breathing and Loving Mother Earth She Is!!!

Camilo

6th November 2014, 21:38

Welcome to PA David. Nice thread/experience. I'm not into Ayahuaska (not that there is anything wrong with it), but have had interdimensional experiences with cosmic beings throughout my life, as well as physical visitations, and I can relate to your story.

Bluegreen

6th November 2014, 21:49

Thank you for sharing.
This blog is all about ayahuasca. In this post, the author examines the writings of William Burroughs and Allen Ginsberg on the subject:

http://www.ayadoc.blogspot.com/2009/03/writers-and-ayahuasca-1-william.html

GoodETxSG

6th November 2014, 22:12

When I was around 15 and staying with family on one of two Reservations in either OK or AL (I used to spend a few weeks each summer with family on the Reservations) I was finally allowed to go through the Sweat Lodge and then after the Vision Quest (Peyote) Ceremonies.

It was a really big deal for me as I felt grown up and finally a little more accepted, I wasn't treated very well by many of the other NA Children/Teenagers for being 1/4 Cherokee and Apache (The big insult was to call you an "APPLE", RED on the outside but WHITE on the inside).

During the "Washi shi inipi" (SP?) Ceremony (Sweat Lodge) it was dark, very hot and steamy inside "Lodge" which was a dug out pit that was then built into a dome with animal skins or branches and leaves.

There were some of the older people who had also been fasting for 3 days (From Food and Technology etc...) who sometimes would begin to pass out. There were attendants that would assist in helping them out of the lodge and disturb the others as little as possible.

I remember the sacret chants and songs would fill the domed structures with a "Dim Pale Light" that they called the "Light of Creation".

It was after that Ceremony that we would "Drink The Tea" and go to the place we had "Chosen" to have our "Experience".

It was an amazing experience that I will never forget. Some people that didn't spiritually prepare did not have a good experience after drinking the "Tea".

Even then the elders and others during the spiritual talks sometimes would speak of "Ayahuaska Experiences" that some had traveled to have. I decided that someday I was going to have one myself when I was at a good spiritual place and "Vibe" (According to them you didn't want to do so otherwise...)

Oneday I hope to have an opportunity to have that experience. I think that I am finally on the right path to where it would be the experience that I seek. Previous to this year it just would have been a very bad "Trip" IMHO...

I look forward to hearing of more of your experience and of your upcoming experience this New Years with your friend.

Welcome and thanks for sharing!
:)

rgray222

6th November 2014, 23:41

Hi David
I thoroughly enjoyed your post and hearing about your experience. I am particularly interested in the your Quantum Physics downloads. Like you I have had had a very different but similar experiences. I felt a need to understand Quantum Physics and studied it for about two years. While I still search out articles and read anything I can get my hands on about Quantum Mechanics I never really understood why. Like you I do not have a science or physics background.

Also I never associated the desire to understand Quantum Physics (the smallest quantity of radiant energy) with my UFO experiences. You are the only person I have heard of that has apparently had the same desire to figure these things out. I must admit I feel a strange kinship with Max Planck as I have studied everything available about this incredible man. All that said..........trying to understand Quantum Physics is a very frustrating task as very few people actually understand it and even fewer can explain it.

I have a few question but if you care to elaborate I would love to hear more.

Do you know why you were given this desire to find out about Quantum Physics
Do you understand Quantum Physics
What can you share about the importance of Quantum Physics
When you say you had downloads, what exactly do you mean
Do you have any insight as to the importance of understanding the Multiverse
Have you ever had fleeting moments of absolute clarity when you feel you actually understand this universe and everything in it

After I had my most significant UFO encounter (for lack of a better word) I have had a burning desire to understand many things that I had previously never cared about. Such as the central banks of the world, the inner workings of the media, how and why governments work as they do, politics on many different levels, how the internet will change humanity and world and yes, quantum physics and the universe at large. My search in this life has moved onto other areas of study but I learned a while ago the importance lies in the journey and not necessarily at the destination.
Richard

Delight

7th November 2014, 00:17

Please reply or send Mail with anything you may consider interesting.

Peace Love Light
David:panda:

Hi David,
I thoroughly enjoyed your story. I have nothing so dramatic to report but do have something that makes me happy to share.

I also have never apparently needed to purge with either San Pedro or Ayahausca. All of my experiences felt like I was communing with a feminine energy that was playful and happy and my friend. I have seen green vines that connect everything and patterns but no scary visions. The last time I participated, I was laughing and then singing and later was unconscious but still singing and resisting being told to be quiet.

That last time, I was carted out by force but it took four men to carry me as my body was twice as heavy as usual. In my out of awareness state I was spitting at the people calling them ghouls (it was on Halloween...so that must be the reason) because they were telling me that I was wrong to sing. Then I was talking nonstop outside giving the history of the earth to my minders. Later I came to and saw the stars change orbit with open eyes and heard coyotes singing to me.

This last episode was "enough" for me. I grow the sacred plants and do not need to drink the vine. I don't even smoke pot any more as it just is not necessary. I do still like tobacco but I roll my own organic cigarettes.

The other interesting thing for me with the journeys...each time I have had delayed "trips" several days or weeks later out of the blue. I have had several visions and strange intense energy sensations. The funniest vision was when I was praying and I saw Gumby (a rubber figure from childhood) run up into the sky to a papier mache mountain and deliver my prayer to a puppet Jesus who rose up from behind the mountain then descended with my prayer. Say what?...was very funny and totally strange.

Ever after, I feel very connected to what seems like the Gaia's "personality" as like my familiar comrade/sister. I have independently of those experiences healed my vision so I wear no glasses. Maybe I also healed my stomach/duodenum after having emergency surgery years ago for bleeding ulcers (parts removed, others disconnected) as my digestion and all works perfectly. I am not about to go find out. I no longer have anything to tie me to a conventional world of allopathic "care".

I am buoyed by your testimony as it is proof we may honor humans as THE MOST extraordinary beings imaginable. Thanks again, Maggie

Deega

7th November 2014, 00:19

Hi David, you shared an amazing journey, great for you!, you have met, communicated with extradimensional beings in special ways, whoua!, and had a wonderful ayahausca experience, you can't asked for more...?

I have had different ayahausca ceremonies, I was in for a spiritual journey, and it was so, the first three ceremonies, my "ego" got a beating! I had been "purging" a lot, and, we were told at the beginning of the ceremonies that while purging, we were invited to get rid of old wounds, old emotions scares still having effect, and so it did, I think that I got rid of many many emotional cordoning off!

The best to you!

Gemma13

7th November 2014, 01:08

Hi

Thanks for sharing. The downloads are interesting to me too as I have been consciously experiencing them for about 5 years now, and still do. Was also passionately drawn to Quantum Physics so began studying science at university after I completed Veterinary Nursing - which also gave me the taste for cellular biology, chemistry, etc. (I was a mature age student @ 45 yrs old as I was offered a job in a bank whilst at school and age 15, so didn't have any prior scientific academic learning - we lived in a small country town in Western Australia). Didn't continue with physics though as it was all structural engineering, building bridges, etc, which I had no interest in and Professor told me that I wouldn't be introduced to quantum physics till the 3rd year and then only briefly.

The good thing about the brief time I spent studying science at Uni though was that it gave me a small window into being confident enough to not walk away from scientific papers/articles/internet discourse, because although I couldn't grasp them I could identify a few things which gave me an elevated layperson angle and understanding, and on "good days" I am actually able to translate and convert some science into "simple analogies/explanations" which has been really cool in discussions with family and friends as an angle to share "stuff" re "there's so much more than meets the eye" conversations; so when it comes to anything metaphysical using a "science" angle always successfully helps override the in-built resistance to anything "unexplainable". And this I have been extremely grateful for.

As an anecdote: During this time I was "obsessed" with an anti-gravity perpetual motion construct and although I could "see" and "understand" it acutely within my inner consciousness layers I was completely useless in being able to translate it into our 3D scientific language: drove me nuts! I kept researching to find if this "idea" was already within our mainstream scientific world - as I thought maybe I was just tapping into the collective - but kept coming up empty so I spent several months putting together a very, very, crude basic structure, (using straws, glue and a piece of jewellery :) ), and plucked up the courage to take it to a wonderful Physics Professor at uni as I knew he would let me down gently if need be.

I told him I could see and understand how this could work but didn't have one shred of intelligence in being able to do the math to demonstrate it so could he give me some direction. He said he liked how my mind was working but currently we didn't even have computers that were advanced enough to do the math. :( Needless to say I went home, threw it in the bin and moved on from my crazy obsession. I was chuffed about having the opportunity to at least semi-translate one of my downloads and be told by a professional that it wasn't nonsense, (and I wasn't crazy), but despondent because it seemed such a waste of time practically because we couldn't just build this simple unit and place it in people's homes to provide perpetual motion energy to help with our energy crisis.

The next few years saw me deep dive into the rabbit holes of conspiracy and I now believe that we definitely do have computers on the planet to do the math on this innovation, but alas, they are not available to the general public.

(By rgray222) Have you ever had fleeting moments of absolute clarity when you feel you actually understand this universe and everything in it.

I would have to say Richard that for me personally these moments of absolute clarity are so incredible that there isn't a word in our language to describe them or define them. I define these times as my "outside the matrix" time, but even in that, there is error, for this landscape is not composed of time, space, matter and energy; and so the kicker is that everything within the matrix is completely deficient in being able to translate and describe this landscape, or position - for complete lack of a better description.

Cheers
Gemma13

David Allen

7th November 2014, 02:00

Hi there:

I could not agree more. I have an understanding of multidimensional physics, time travel, matter/anti-matter, space-time/time-space, realms, dimensions, densities, universes, multiverses, the omniverse, etc. I have not a clue how to explain or even where to begin. When I read books and articles, listen to interviews, or research such topics, what I find either makes perfect sense to me, or I know to reject it instantly.

I am very excited to read Alfred Lambremonte Webre's new book entitled "The Dimensional Ecology of the Multiverse". I have ordered it. It's waiting for me at my home in Miami. I will be there for a week starting on the 17th of November. I can't wait to see what unfolds. Alfred is a very intelligent and insightful man.

Thanks so much for taking the time to right me. Be well!
David

David Allen

7th November 2014, 02:06

Thank you so much for taking the time to write to me. I believe that I had dealt with my ego during the 2 1/2 years of meditation. At least, that is what I am assuming. I don't know what to think. I am going with a friend in January for another ceremony in Costa Rica. Are you aware of anywhere in the United States or Nicaragua for Ayahuaska?

Thanks again. All the best,
David

David Allen

7th November 2014, 02:11

rgray222

7th November 2014, 02:26

(By rgray222) Have you ever had fleeting moments of absolute clarity when you feel you actually understand this universe and everything in it.

I would have to say Richard that for me personally these moments of absolute clarity are so incredible that there isn't a word in our language to describe them or define them. I define these times as my "outside the matrix" time, but even in that, there is error, for this landscape is not composed of time, space, matter and energy; and so the kicker is that everything within the matrix is completely deficient in being able to translate and describe this landscape, or position - for complete lack of a better description.

Cheers
Gemma13

Hi Gemma, I could not agree more. It is a way too seldom brief moment of feeling like everything in the universe is connected and makes perfect sense. It has nothing to do with family, friends or material things. I could attempt to describe it all day long and the only word that comes to mind is perfection.
R

David Allen

7th November 2014, 02:54

Hello Richard --

Thanks so much for you eloquently written and impeccably formatted message. I wish I could format so meticulously in a chat dialog box! I am very excited to reply to you. I also feel a kinship to Max Plank although I have only read superficially about him, but absorbed most of his findings.

My hunger to study Quantum Physics preceded my experience with UFO's.

I will try to answer your questions to the best of my ability.

Question: Do you know why you were given this desire to find out about Quantum Physics?

Answer: I really have no idea. During meditation, the idea literally popped into my head. I went to my search engine and immediately came across some basics, and the hunger grew and grew. I spent all day fixated at the computer not know why but being driven and devouring all that I came across.

Question: Do you understand Quantum Physics?

Answer: I feel that I do however, I would not know where to begin to explain it. Trying to find words to explain the concepts escapes me.

Question: What can I share about the importance of Quantum Physics?

Answer: I feel that Quantum Physics is the key to unfold all that is (however what mainstream science knows now, or admits to knowing, is just the tip of the ice-berg), and I feel that Einstein had known more than what history has written. Unified Field theory (when complete -- again I feel it is complete, that Einstein did complete it, and it has been kept from us) will prove that light speed is not the maximum speed to be attained. As one approaches light speed, with the introduction of anti-matter, one can actually fold "space/time", exit it, and enter it's parallel "time-space". When in "time-space", any movement is far faster than light speed. When one has traveled the distance desired in "time-space", one simply reverses the process and move back into "space-time". (Now isn't that just the most absurd explanation! Again, I can't put this into words, but I am trying my best for you).

Question: When you say downloads, what exactly do you mean?

Answer: In the beginning I would hear dictation, very rapid dictation. During my dreams as well, I would wake up and the dictation would continue for a few moments. As time passed I would just exit my meditation or wake up from sleep with information present. It felt as in my mind was trying to categorize, file, compute, and digest. But I would not know exactly what. Then during my days, I would either hear, see, feel, or read something that would trigger a huge understanding. When I had the experience with the Ayahuaska, the feeling of being overloaded with information subsided. Just as if it all had been organized perfectly. I do not know I have the knowledge until I wonder about something, a question is asked, or a life experience triggers a memory. I listen to interviews, presentation, mediums, psychics, etc and this is when I can access it and know what is true. At that point I have the ability to explain what I am understanding

Question: Do you have any insight as to the importance of understanding the Multiverse?

Answer: Yes I do. What I do know is that the Multiverse is something that I have had an understanding about when in an altered state of perception. However, it is not something that can be comprehended or explained in our current 3D reality. We, with our current perception do not have access to absorb and digest this. I have no words to try to communicate anything about this other than to say that it is infinite ever changing, limitless, and that anything we could ever possibly imagine exists. The fact that we imagine it gives it existence.

Question: Have you ever had fleeting moments of absolute clarity when you feel you actually understand this universe and everything in it?

Answer: Yes, it's like a double edge sword. It feels so wonderful, but then when trying to explain it (even to myself) I lose everything, and it's gone.

I share in your desire to understand the many things that we never cared about previously. The banks, the media, governments, etc. I feel that I do understand that as well. I know there is no need to fight it. I know it is all working out just fine. I know that we have help, IN LARGE QUANTITIES, from off-world civilizations. Many Many! I am aware of some of them, and I am aware of many things they have been doing in order to help us in the shift that we are in the middle of.

It was such a pleasure to read you post. I have never been able to talk to anyone about any of this. I am so glad I took the time to open up with my story. It is so nice to know that there are those like you out there who can share thoughts like this.

Thanks so much Richard. Be well,
David

Delight

7th November 2014, 03:00

Hi Maggie:

Thanks for sharing your interesting story.

One thing that puzzles me -- Not only did I not purge, I had double the dose of everyone else and I never hallucinated or was "out of it" as you stated. I was just heightened in my awareness and meditative state.

Be well,
David

There are different groups who participate with ceremony in the US though quietly.
If you really want to find a group, I think you will be led to one. That is what happened for me. I feel like the medicine calls us to it as much as we choose the medicine.

Actually, my experience was in a group where there was a shaman brought to the US from peru. The group asked for us to be "contained" as it was in a large room and one was "not supposed" to disturb others. purging was expected so not disturbing. But IMO insisting people be quiet was too restricting.

You were in complete lucidity but others might not be? The medicine is very unpredictable and purging is IMO no less "expression" as talking when in the middle of the medicine's activity IMO. IMO people need as free an environment as possible...safety yes, but proscription no. What happened with me was outside the almost "religious" bounds set out.

Too many concepts about what was appropriate response to the medicine inhibited other people who talked to me later about feeling embarrassed. The rigid nature of the ceremony left me leery of participating in such a group because I had to process some "shame" afterwards at how I "behaved". But how I could have controlled my actions has been a question to me because I did go unconscious?

My perception of the medicine is that it meets us in very individual ways. I have profound respect for its workings. I have feelings about "group" structure in this case as you can probably tell. If I could, I would re-create the environment for the ceremony to be more individually supportive.

David Allen

7th November 2014, 03:23

Hello Gemma:

Incredible Insight!!!!!! Fantastic

Blessings,
David

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Thanks for your insights...

David Allen

7th November 2014, 03:33

Hi:

So great to read your words. Everyone here has shown such interest. I have never told the story to anyone, and I am so happy to get such incredible feedback.

To speak about being in a "good vibe" when having an experience, I was in a Very Good Vibe, perhaps that why there was such smoothness.
I am going to another in Costa Rica with a friend in January. I plan to be in the same state of mind. I also fasted and as far as technology, this laptop (soon to be replaced by a tablet) is all I use. Not even a cellular. I do not like any communication other than in person. I guess that is why it took me so long to open a face book account or join Avalon. There are times when technology is a must. This is one of them.

Oh, by the way, about 15 minutes ago, when flossing my teeth, I was drawn to walk out on my bedroom balcony (you can see it in my photos) and guess what? A craft (the exact same type as always) was scurrying about above. I plan to go out later to take a look.

Best wishes,
Davide

GoodETxSG

7th November 2014, 04:32

araucaria

7th November 2014, 08:39

David, your interest in quantum physics might take you to the work of Wolfgang Pauli with Carl Gustav Jung. See their collected correspondence in Atom and Archetype. There also a book by a student of Pauli’s analyst Marie-Louise von Franz, Remo Roth’s The Return of the World Soul – see my posts linked below (more to come). Very briefly, Pauli and Jung worked together on the concept of synchronicity as the psychological equivalent of radioactivity. A single atomic decay is unobservable, i.e. acausal (hence the half-life is only a statistical tool); this acausality is also the chief characteristic of a synchronicity, i.e. the coincidental part of meaningful coincidence.

Remo Roth takes our understanding of the workings of synchronicity to a new level through his description of a two-way energy process between what he calls the Logos ego (physically located in the skull brain) and the Eros ego (physically located in the gut/belly brain), thereby overcoming the mind/matter and other dualities. The physical meeting point of these two energies would be the heart, so your cardiac issues and their disappearance would be the material manifestation of this inner process. This process may be seen in terms of spacetime and timespace, if we take timespace to be what Jung calls the unus mundus (one world), where quantum acausal leaps are made then injected into the causality of spacetime.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=886200&viewfull=1#post886200
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=887377&viewfull=1#post887377
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=889817&viewfull=1#post889817

jounai

7th November 2014, 09:55

Hehe, nice experience you have had. :) I never have had something that visual so far, though the experience of ETs and whatnot is strong still. I guess my way is for it to just come naturally. :)
I tend to however see UFO every time I look at the night sky, and I had another sight yesterday just when I was about to go inside from a walk I had been on. There it was a moving light, which grew, moved and then dimmed. Interaction with ETs are however a natural thing, and I believe the same way of communication will be possible, and very likely, between us humans as well, in time of course.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience! I wish you a playful life in whic you get to enjoy yourself to the fullest! After all, joy is what life is all about. :)

eaglespirit

7th November 2014, 10:17

I share in your desire to understand the many things that we never cared about previously. The banks, the media, governments, etc. I feel that I do understand that as well. I know there is no need to fight it. I know it is all working out just fine. I know that we have help, IN LARGE QUANTITIES, from off-world civilizations. Many Many! I am aware of some of them, and I am aware of many things they have been doing in order to help us in the shift that we are in the middle of.

It was such a pleasure to read you post. I have never been able to talk to anyone about any of this. I am so glad I took the time to open up with my story. It is so nice to know that there are those like you out there who can share thoughts like this.

Thanks so much Richard. Be well,
David

...and it is simply 'quantum' to actively work IN the awareness in 3d to the best of our own personal self-responsible abilities in the now in front of us.

WE are 'conduits' of the Higher Order...Our Active Awareness 'enhances' the culminating fruition of the 'working out' of it ALL...bringing it Here, Now....as opposed to Then,There!

My best way to put it in writing in this 3d time and place.

David Allen

7th November 2014, 13:50

Thanks araucaria --

Just read your reply and WOW WOW WOW. Unbelievable! I haven't yet checked out the links, but wanted to reply about your comment on Remo Roth. In the understanding from downloads, here is what I have come to learn:

The brain and the gut are both emitters of unique and different energies (space-time for heart and time-space for the gut). The heart, with assistance from the circulatory system, along with electromagnetic energy, harmonizes the two into our experience.

A huge "a ha" moment for me! I never equated the reversal of my heart issue with any of that information I had received. This makes perfect sense to me. Like I said, I have an understanding of quantum and multidimensional physics, yet the information is deep within, and certain triggers allow me the ability to remember. Your comment about Roth allowed the received information about brain/heart/gut to come to the forefront of my consciousness. I am new to this process, but when it happens, it appears remarkable and miraculous to me.

I can't wait to check out your links!

THAN YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU,
David

David Allen

7th November 2014, 14:00

Thank you for you kind wishes.

Yes, Joy is what life is all about.

May you be blessed with as much Joy and you can garner! :)

David Allen

7th November 2014, 14:13

Great to know.

People do look strangely when one can understand concepts without having any background (in the physical realm). My understanding of these fields goes beyond the equations -- they seem unimportant -- let the physicists deal with the equations -- as my understanding surpasses any equations. Though I have no desire to grasp the math, when listening to interviews with many physicists, I know what the conclusion is before they arrive at it, and I can immediately feel a sense of "offness" when they miss the point or go in the wrong direction.

As a child, just in high school science, I always knew there was more to everything than just this universe, and Newtonian Science, including the Theory of Relativity.

I have read "My Big Toe" by Tom Campbell, and have listened to many of his lectures and interviews. I feel that he is closer in his explanations than many others but I still feel he's a bit off, and can explain myself point by point as I read or listen, but I am not as yet able to express my own understanding of the Theory of Everything. Personally, from my information received, "everything" is timeless and endless (infinite and self generating), and no one theory can or will ever explain it. Everything unfolds and creates more everything along with new understandings as it unfolds. It is always a step ahead of ANY consciousness which may try to understand it -- let alone 3D humans.

:)

David Allen

7th November 2014, 15:37

Yes, Joy is what life is all about.

Thank you for your kind wishes

David Allen

7th November 2014, 17:37

nenosema

7th November 2014, 19:34

you can Always make your own,

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=forum

GoodETxSG

7th November 2014, 22:12

Hello All:

I am curious to know if anyone is familiar with anyone in the U.S. who holds Ayahuaska ceremonies. If you are not comfortable to reply here, feel free to send me a private message.

Thank you and Blessings,
David

I second That! In the Natural and Traditional form of course...
David Allen... if you get some info please PM me. I would rather not travel far to have the experience... I kind of want to duplicate the Native American Experience I described in my prior post and "Have the Experience" while already in a Higher Vibratory and while Connected to a "Higher Consciousness State" while here in the States in a Secure environment.

I might have luck if I recultivate some of my long lost NA Family Relationships that have fallen away over the decades since my GF's Death...

David Allen

7th November 2014, 22:46

I will be certain to let you know....

Peace

Yetti

9th November 2014, 00:20

BIENVENIDO ! A AVALON DAVID> You'll find this forum awesome! full of great souls and easy chemistry between us.
About the being you contacted.... is He communicating w/you because you have any special skill or agenda here? or just helping you to spread the fact we are not alone?.. anyway very cool ! . once again Welcome. Yetti

David Allen

10th November 2014, 03:39

Thanks for the welcome, Yetti.....

I believe he's in contact with me because I was searching. I am attempting to understand my agenda here.

Delight

10th November 2014, 18:23

Delight

10th November 2014, 19:18

I want to speak to a basic decision that we make as humans...is experience fearful or benevolent? I consider the need to create safety to be something one would like to "unlearn".

This "seeking safety" is the strategy of survival of the physical vehicle. Taking in information starts from the womb. IMO the "fact" of being in biology where our mother's womb is the environment of first experience does start a cascade of familiar input. The later early years also imprints the factor of familiar strategy to identify "should I move toward" the experience or "away from" experience. The sacred cows of "what to do and not do" are examples of the spectrum.

We can change strategies to "decide" we are not the effect of "experience" so we are no longer fearful. How this happens is that we learn sometimes that the worst that ever could happen is just a moment to pass through as life unfolds. I consider forgiveness and grace to be the allies here we meet within ourselves this way. They can also be met on journies with entheogens.

This "no fear" of experience is a grand place to be free. We can also hold onto our strategy of fear and ameliorate stress of change (and change is a constant) by learning to create environments that seem safe and cling to the safety at all costs. To create strongholds of familiar is a dead end ultimately.

IMO all this "experience" is about being consciousness expressing and because so much is "presented" as fearful to the body, we need to develop broader base of "who am I" to experience more comfort in particular states. My appreciation for the magnificence of the "way we operate" makes me confident that any "experience" is not a determiner of the one experiencing.

I think that everyone is doing the very best possible to incorporate refreshing novelty in life. If we stop expanding the novelty factor, life seems very dull and tired. Repetition and sameness despite its familiar safety is anathema to the experiencer. Getting bogged down in the recapitulation of familiar including dependence on "making sense" stick by analysis and arguments across experience becomes a dead end for the novelty and refreshment there.

I would say that the mythology of the trickster archetype (the undo-er of what was made sacred) is one we gave ourselves to mix things up so we DO get beyond "our fear" for example.

If there is a dead end and no release of this "committment" to the same ole same ole... I think we eventually retract all real interest in having experience. This can be for parts of life, or the life itself. To escape the dead end ordinary that we fenced around us is IMO is the reason we choose to "implode" back to the reality from which the experiencer of we arises...let's call it zero point...The reset button of "death".

So paradoxically even my strategy to "kick my own butt" with sudden experience seemingly beyond my control terrifying was my creation. That "discombobulator" will show up my strategy "to keep everything controlled" as a dead end. My strangely benign knowing in the message... no matter how "safe" I made my little world, IF it is not safe anyway? Maybe it is time to choose a different stand? Safety is a mehhh of no count really for what I am looking to experience (which is that the whole is FOR me) and I was mistaken. Then paradoxically again, giving up the control releases even greater benevolence FOR me to appreciate... This has been my experience anyway.

GoodETxSG

10th November 2014, 20:31

It is not unusual for "Experiencers" to have a "Hunger" for the latest "Quantum Physics Theories and "Unified Field Model Theories" and also an the Aptitudes to easily understand and explain their concepts that are not easy to explain on the subject as well.

I always felt it was just self evident or common knowledge. When I ended up speaking to other "Experiencers" later on I found out that this was not unusual at all. I think there are various reasons that can explain why of course. But that is an interesting observation.....

....I think there are MANY "Experiencers" that are the same way with this information... IMHO.

This post kind of stuck in my mind the other day about being an "experiencer". I am making it a small "e".

I have had experiences. In fact everyone has experiences. We are all only having experience. What the big "E" is IMO pointing towards is quantifications and categorizations and EGO: "My E is really making me specialer than your E".

Awe taps into the nonlinear mind (right brain to make it simple), we then may "want" to translate into linear thought. Hence the fantasy, the philosophy and the arts...

IMO there are two convenient translation model categories that make "sense" to the linear ex-plainer (post ex-perience) SCIENCE and RELIGION. There are also two kinds of categories of direction from which "something" appears...from outside and from within. IMO explaining is EVERYTHING the after of experience translates and we write and record. Humans do that....

Also, IMO there is a tendency to forget the over whelming. IMO when I have had experience that was outside my own model (models can change)and "at that time" ability to make sense, I just "blanked" the memory. To deliberately stretch one's "allowing of the unknown" will increase memory for the novel experiences.

Another way to incorporate new knowledge is to incorporate the extreme into a myth. I do not trivialize myth. It is IMO the way to hang up the totally nonlinear experience into a way to "look at it" post experience.

There is the tendency to use already familiar "imaginings" to explain the liminal weird of reality edge. Sci Fi is the latest mythology. I see that this accepted mythology is sporadic in appearance (with waves of popular expression), regional in association (global in some cases is the region), and will be "grouped" also by what respected and authorized "peers" have as categories.

Great story tellers can create streams of myth that will persist and IMO looking at the way the myths (like MILAB) of previous decades become more wide spread is interesting. It is my opinion that we are expanding leading edge experiencers of CONSCIOUSNESS itself.

My 'experience" is that I have unexplainable experience that I then look to be able to relate to myself. The areas of quantum physics, torsion physics are much more amenable to use than "newton's apple". Geometry is more useful to me than algebra. I do look for patterns as patterns make things replicable. The one time weird wants brothers and sisters.

I must say my bias here: we are each using the best "data" that we have to make sense of experience. I just do believe in imagination to achieve ANYTHING. When we choose to focus, we will all see what we focus on. Yahoo.

WE ARE EACH THE MANAGERS. The fear of the unknown is a brake on recall of Experience. Management just ignores it. The fact that we all are here experiencing is IMO testimony to our greatness. Only amazing extraordinary consciousness could create such a fantasmagoria of sense and experience.

Thanks for letting me add my analysis of the way to take the impossible in with the left word based brain explainer module[/COLOR]...hehe. Maggie

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This isn't just directed at this member I am responding to in This Post... But some others and their recent behavior and its effect on some of these "Experiencers"...

I have to shake my head at the Ego's of some of these skeptics in this Forum who speak from a position of total and Complete Ignorance on Some Topics that they have Absolutely Zero Experience In!

"Experiencers" is a term that has been coined to be "descriptive", a"title" or "category" of a group of people... This word is an Adjective and is therefor properly Capitalized (Also to show emphasis on the group).

If One feels that it capitalization is a matter of "Ego" then I would suggest THEY may be mirroring Their own tendencies onto others. People usually Accuse Others of What They Would Do in the Exact Same Situation.

When Psychologically profiling people, watching what they accuse others of is something that is factored into the equation every time.

In this case of The "MILAB MYTH"... The "Myth" is a "Legend" or "Story" (Or Information/Data) that a person reads or hears and has Not Experienced or had Any Base Of Reference With (The Information/Data) in the so called Clever Story and Science Fiction Writing Skills of the One Who REPORTED that They Experienced What THEY Are Reporting.

For "The Skeptic" to tell a Group of People that has Shared the Same or Similar Type of Experiences Over a Life Time That Their Experiences and Traumatic Memories are a "Myth" or "Delusions"... THEY ARE Calling Them ALL "Liers"! And do not say I am putting words into their mouth, There have been to many skeptics saying to many of the same/similar things to squirm out of the intent or meaning of the statements or posts.

For an Arrogant Skeptic to come onto a Forum (Of the type that Avalon is) where there are hundreds of "Experiencers" of various types and from various "Programs" that get lumped under the MILAB Umbrella (Not to mention "Experiencers" of many Other Types) is one of the Largest Exercises in Inflated Ego's I have seen on any Thread where other Members who are skeptics have seen fit to attack the subject and the individual "Experiencers".

This Information Threatens the Belief Systems and Paradigm's of Many People on the Forum.

MOST Members have shown the class to avoid commenting negatively on topics that they Do Not Agree With or Understand, or they are the types of people that at least read the information and reflect on it quietly without disparaging others.

For the skeptics that believe they should be able to say what ever they want to who ever they want (Free speech/Free Will and all), I doubt they would go to a meeting of AA or Recovering Sexual Abuse victims and show such disregard for their welfare and feelings.

If those skeptics could put aside their Ego's and Belief Systems for long enough to consider "What If" these people categorized as MILAB's and their terrifying experiences of victimization are for real. They should ask themselves these questions;
-How will my brutally honest opinions of them effecting them in their healing process?
-Do I care if my comment compels anyone to hurt themselves?
-Do I care about them at all?

[COLOR="red"]The answer to those THREE Questions will give the True Answer to Who Is The Mentally Ill And most likely "Sociopathic" Personality Types.

I have received PM's and Emails from well over a Dozen other "Experiencers" of these "Programs" who are suffering deeply.

Many have been on the verge of coming to Avalon's Safe Zone where they can be anonymous and communicate with other "Experiencers" as well as some very well respected MILAB researchers and councilors who are members of Avalon (But do not advertise it).

The Attacks and Disparaging Posts by Skeptics on several occasions have chased away some of these "Experiencers" that were on the verge of reaching out for help for the first time in their lives.

The skeptics need to think and be responsible. They can be the ones that trigger one of these people into hurting themselves or worse with their "Cleverly Worded Retorts and Opinionated Comments". If these same skeptics or members do not care, as I said above they have some psychological problems that are far worse than the "Delusions" that they are accusing the "Experiencers" of having.

I have also been contacted my even more people that have thanked me for coming forward in the "Interview" (Which was one of the most difficult things I have done) and told me that the information has made a major positive difference in their lives.

I did not come forward for 15 minutes of Fame or Ego. I came forward to help the thousands of other MILAB and other Black Ops Program "Experiencers" that are "Out There" suffering and feel completely alone. They cannot tell their families about this stuff. If they tell their normal Psychologists they will have them locked up or put them on medications that they do not need.

They need to know they are not alone and have a support structure. For those out there that "Want Disclosure" they need to offer this support.

Many of these "Experiencers" have the keys or pieces to the great 3 dimensional puzzle of information that IS True Disclosure. This information WILL NOT come from a Government Television Announcement. It is going to come from inside the programs and from those who have been used and thrown away by these programs... IMHO.

Delight

10th November 2014, 21:22

I think that my post must have sounded offensive. It was not a directed "dis-avowal" of anyone's particular experience.

In my own reality, I have particular memories that you all might consider valid ones to make me a genuine "Experiencer" (in the vernacular you set out). That is all not my point.

To return to the point I consider important to ME. I flesh out my experience in a story. I consider all of us to be creators of ALL experience because without our interpretation, there is no experience.

It is my NOT humble opinion that I am the creator of my whole reality and can more really compare and contrast my experience with yours as one might compare the two sunsets we see (yours and mine).

The sunset is scientifically the sun and light refracting at the horizon through the atmosphere. Religiously it is God made the sun go down, or some god was traveling in a chariot and behind him spilling paint from the back end which spilled over the sky.

When I see the sunset, it is my experience. What I make of it?
Will it be choosing the story or will I perhaps tell some new story?

Challenge here...do you think your pirate ship could have been anything ELSE than you recall? I do not care that you have that memory really in terms of my own recall that I used to fly out my window with dragons. Many mornings I was already outside playing at dawn. It was once upon a time and I grew up to study conscousness philosophy so now consider everything just a story.

What did it mean to me THEN that I could do that? It meant THEN that I was THE fairy princess who had loyal dragons summoned to carry me to my kingdom.

NOW??

It means that SOME experience was clothed in my own perception. MY perception and yours cannot truly be the same. Frankly to me that is very unfulfilling to stay in the story.

BUT I do create...and you and I and EVERYONE have experience. I will not say that I am an "Experiencer" as I consider all that quite useless for my own purpose to be the one knowing who creates. Now I feel fulfilled by imagining that as easily as I create story so goes my world....

Gemma13

11th November 2014, 03:11

Delight

11th November 2014, 07:17

Gemma,
Wow, thank you for attempting to understand what I shared. I will attempt to respnd to what you asked. I will insert between your lines...

"I will have to re-paint from my own set of tools in an attempt to see the psychology/philosophy that you are currently experiencing and sharing:"

First of all, this taking what I said and repainting is exactly the way I think I synthesize understanding what others say out of what I already understand. You are not just "taking something in" as if it was divorced from you. Thanks for that.

"Left Brain = one doorway/portal that leads to multiple rooms"

The plane of thoughts is vast. I think the left brain receives these thoughts. I have come to appreciate that thoughts ARE elementals created by thinkers. Any thought from what I have noticed through looking at systems keeps proliferating which is why I see this realm as never ending with ex-planations on ex-planations. This "world" of thought forms is IMO the rabbit hole with no end.

My experience with the left brain knowledge is that it takes everything and parts it in as many possible bits as one has the will to keep doing that ...breaking down, down, down ever more complex.

"Right Brain = one doorway/portal that leads to multiple rooms"

Actually no, I experience that realm as coherent whole impressions and I think it reaches into areas beyond thought forms with "down loads" of more than thoughts hold. What I experience is from that "look" a whole is just "appreciated". It seems like these wholes are then translated into linear thought form correlates (if there are correlates) but one can paint from there or make music that is thoughtless. everything is related.

Are you therefore saying that when you choose to walk through the doorway of the Right Brain you are able to imagine-experience great fantasy/illusion

I do imagine pictorially, emotionally. I also send intention form what feels like a "whole" concept. It also seems like I can reach larger multilevel comprehension such that I am aware of all the aspects. It seems like I can imagine greater than I can describe ever in words.

So for instance. I can now imagine that there is always a both/and ...even more "sides" to a condition. It seems like compassion is understood right brain though felt as heart.

and when you return to the Null Zone and walk back through the Left Brain doorway it can be definitively analyzed, catalogued, or deleted,

I am more attuned to seeing the connections between different things that I try to describe in language. It is frustrating to try to analyze just because it splits up and objectifies what is a whole.

"Right Brain experiences are a fantastic self-owned/perceived creation"

Could be "fantastic" or could seem to be garden variety. Self owned or seeming to be "universal"? Could be outside of "perception" and not explainable...most frustrating like something on the tip of the tongue....elusive to description like colors never seen and music never heard...just out of reach but real.

Yes, going to linear to describe is a step removed.

I will describe an experience. I was with a group where we were participating in an imaginal activity that was also "real". Though I did not sense what was going on, I knew what was happening. I could not see but I was "there" and we all had the same experience of being "there" while unaware of the experience in a 3D context.

used as a way to escape the routine binders, boredoms, and repetitions of life by taking brief sojourns outside the inevitable thought of an impending, unavoidable death one day?

No, I don't think I meant that because the kind of binders I addressed are not even left/right but the "committment" to a way of living where there is like an invisible fence beyond which it seems "dangerous" to go. That is what I meant by attempting to create safety and to control for safety. Death does not seem to be the issue even. The safety is to control for being "hurt" in life. Maybe you are correct that the deep reason is avoiding death?

If so, (or not), I would like to also propose a benign challenge:

How many rooms in the Left Brain have you explored, do you know how many there are, do you know if there is a final destination?

In the past I spent many years studying systems like astrology and others that just became more splintered among schools. The tarot also and religion, sociology, philosophy...all vast in the various "takes" that could be internally consistent but had no end. Convoluted with libraries of various authors.

I suspected that there could be no final destination to knowledge. Magic is like that also with numerous rituals, spirits, approaches...always approaches and again no seeming end to the study.

In the world of people trying to make alchemy or like "Ormus" which I used to be involved in...there were so many procedures and variations and brands. Seeking the philospher stone is never finding it. My friends were always taking the latest and yet, they were always needing to take more and different. Proliferation without satisfaction.

I started doubting that any satisfaction would come from these systems. Yet, there must be simple underlying commonalities. I arrived at "me" being the common denominator of all that I saw. It just seemed that I was the one focused on anything, the one looking. This is like saying..."I am the placebo". "I am the one who uses the tool." "I am the one taking the permission slip." "I am the experiencer".

I freaked out when I realized that I was suspecting how the power was from me. I am actually god in my own creation is a scary realization. It was blasphemous but I know that it is true. I am not the big Kahuna Creator of the Universe but in my own life, I am always here when there is a problem and when I decide something, I see the fruits.

I started hearing affirmation. Like once I was listening to the archeologist Antoine Gigal. She was being asked abut an ancient Egyptian alchemy she had found a recipe to make. She knows Arabic and has studied many ancient texts other wWesterners cannot read. When asked if she had tried to make the recipe, she said "Why? I don't need to make it now I know what it is" EXACTLY is what I thought.

When we know something, that is all there is to it after we know that is all there is to it.

How many rooms in the Right Brain have you explored, do you know how many there are, do you know if there is a final destination?

I do not think there is proliferation in the right brain thinkng. Many rooms is separting and compartmentalizing. My sense of right brain is unification.

Have you experienced doorways/portals that lead from and out of the Left and/or Right Brain? If so, where did this lead?

Going back and forth between analysis and the whole is back and forth between two different states. I can imagine being "out there" in imagination. Supposedly anything we can imagine is real some where? lucid dreaming is something I experience but nothing daylight.

Have you experienced doorways/portals within your Heart Brain?
Have you experienced doorways/portals that lead from and out of your Heart Brain? If so, where did this lead?

What I experience is that dropping down in the heart is "not thinking" at all and is purely feeling. I can feel emotions without story and change my emotions at will. To drop out of the brain into the heart is the totally new place where one can just be with experience IMO.

I have physically experienced a vast emptiness within the heart. I have experienced a vast still point that is formless. I actually have felt myself falling into this space. I have found forgiveness there and that peace that is beyond understanding. Knowing a sense of Presence takes me out of my mind. This was the BIGGEST event of my life.

The Presence is what allows letting go of control and safety and I feel it as Grace and in its embrace everything is forgiven and made innocent. I trust this innocence of what is real beyond the mind.

Have you experienced doorways/portals within your Energetic Field Brain? If so, where did this lead?

A few years ago I began to feel myself as a field. It stared after I took ayahausca but never left me. I can stretch my field or shrink it. I work in the field to dissolve various "findings". I have tools that I use to dissolve and transmute my field energies or congestion. The experience I have is that my field bleeds into the larger field. I have had visions of trees with their active energies so I know trees are sentient. Everything IMO is sentient in its way. I sense the natural world as being within me and around me. It is like becoming the space that is between the particular.

The way I have come to understand "reality" is that the external world is like what is called the matrix but that there is a natural matrix which is beyond my mental projections. I entertain that everything is alive and has its form of consciousness. Sentience responds to us from where we are as beings. If friendly, all is a friend. I cannot understand that there is some outside evil force and suspect the only evil emanates from our own fear.

With all due respect, have you taken up the challenge that you are proposing to readers, (being to take Right Brain experience back into the Left Brain because this is where authoritative, definitive, "safe" meaning can be found for all experience-Experience), by you yourself taking time to re-consider your definition of safety parameters in order to courageously dare to explore way beyond even the first, second or third rooms behind the Right Brain, Heart Brain and/or Energetic Field Brain, doorways/portals?

I do take the challenge but am a baby there. It is my suspicion that this is why I am "here". I read a statement from Neville Goddard that said people make a transition from wanting a "building" to wanting to be the builder. If you KNOW that you are the builder and that the building might fall but you can rebuild removes the need to keep the building safe.

I am learning to trust my inner beingness as my source of energy. I came up with the sense that my inner beingness interacts with light to create my hologram. I think the interference pattern between my state of vibration and light is what I "see" in the world. I no longer want to talk about these things...I want to do it.

If I am creator, I am creator. Otherwise, I am at effect. From this vantage point, talking about anything to do with victims, persecutors and saviors has no relevance.

In self extended to everything love and trust, there is internal security. I am as much part of everything as everything is part of me. I know that I have no interest in violating myself. I love myself unconditionally. I know I am innocent.

This change "in me" has relieved me of various needs to justify, to seek revenge, to see an enemy of any kind, to "hold off" energy for protection. I honestly do not think I need to project my shadow. I can own my own energy and transmute it without this secondary step.

I am not really fearful of anything EXCEPT when I get into my left brain where all kinds of mental patterns of logic cannot comprehend just being magic. Something about being in logic shuts off my flow of trust. Therefore I prefer to stay illogical.

The reason I talk back in posts is just to counter these logical ideas that there is a "real" world apart that could be harmful and problems with solutions to be applied matter to matter.

I just cannot get interested in my old way of living. It was so boring.

Cheers to you too Gemma

GoodETxSG

11th November 2014, 15:34

@ Delight, Interesting, but I'm a bit confused with your language here so I will have to re-paint from my own set of tools in an attempt to see the psychology/philosophy that you are currently experiencing and sharing:

Left Brain = one doorway/portal that leads to multiple rooms
Right Brain = one doorway/portal that leads to multiple rooms
(Some "interesting" definitions presented in the image you shared in one of your posts)

Are you therefore saying that when you choose to walk through the doorway of the Right Brain you are able to imagine-experience great fantasy/illusion and when you return to the Null Zone and walk back through the Left Brain doorway it can be definitively analyzed, catalogued, or deleted, and therefore Right Brain experiences are a fantastic self-owned/perceived creation used as a way to escape the routine binders, boredoms, and repetitions of life by taking brief sojourns outside the inevitable thought of an impending, unavoidable death one day?

If so, (or not), I would like to also propose a benign challenge:

How many rooms in the Left Brain have you explored, do you know how many there are, do you know if there is a final destination?
How many rooms in the Right Brain have you explored, do you know how many there are, do you know if there is a final destination?
Have you experienced doorways/portals that lead from and out of the Left and/or Right Brain? If so, where did this lead?
Have you experienced doorways/portals within your Heart Brain?
Have you experienced doorways/portals that lead from and out of your Heart Brain? If so, where did this lead?
Have you experienced doorways/portals within your Energetic Field Brain? If so, where did this lead?

With all due respect, have you taken up the challenge that you are proposing to readers, (being to take Right Brain experience back into the Left Brain because this is where authoritative, definitive, "safe" meaning can be found for all experience-Experience), by you yourself taking time to re-consider your definition of safety parameters in order to courageously dare to explore way beyond even the first, second or third rooms behind the Right Brain, Heart Brain and/or Energetic Field Brain, doorways/portals?

Cheers
Gemma13

Thank you Gemma,

You post and the reply were extremely helpful in providing further information and psychological insight on the posters "Pseudo-Scientific Psychology Belief System" and "Reality Bubble". This is just One of the things Psychological Profiles are good for. Some people can talk them selves in circles for ever with this jargon.

WE ALL DO live within OUR OWN "Reality Bubbles" and tend to float about and "Coalesce" with other reality bubbles that are "Permeable with the Contents of our Own Reality Bubbles".

Some times "Bubbles Violently Bump Against Other Bubbles and then Gather Into a Nice Peaceful Clump Resembling the "Flower of Life" which just happens to be the Symbol of my Avalon Member "Avatar".

Sometimes those "Bubbles" are "Popped" by new experiences that are not able to be denied or categorized by the previous belief system that supported the previous "Reality Bubble"... Some call this an "Expansion in Consciousness" and others just become angry that someone "Burst their Bubble"... And refuse to expand out of stubbornness or programming.

Through my personal experiences ("Physical Encounters") I have HAD to reform MY "Reality Bubble" often either after it was popped or by coalescing it with those of others to expand it into a larger shared "Reality Bubble".

This indeed IS a Mechanism of Consciousness but is NO less "Real" since it was an "Actual Experience". It is just not an experience that is accepted the current "Consciousness Levels" of those outside that "Group Of" or "Giant Reality Bubble".

In fact They would see those expanded "Reality Bubbles" floating high and above as non scientific and outside of scientific boundaries (Which are belief systems/Religions in their own right).

Thanks again, you post/questions that shed further light on the situation. :)

Gemma13

12th November 2014, 13:02

Thanks Delight for your wonderful reply. I appreciate it very much and thank you for the great clarity you provided in your post.

"Sometimes Bubbles Violently Bump Against Other Bubbles and then Gather Into a Nice Peaceful Clump Resembling the "Flower of Life"

Thanks GOODETxSG what a fantastic quote - it should be "bumper stickered"!!

All the best
Gemma

Delight

13th November 2014, 03:07

"Sometimes Bubbles Violently Bump Against Other Bubbles and then Gather Into a Nice Peaceful Clump Resembling the "Flower of Life"

Thanks GOODETxSG what a fantastic quote - it should be "bumper stickered"!!

I liked that quote and about the so many different ways to expand one's "reality bubble" or "reality tunnel" and ciincidentally I came across this fun quote from Ram Das

“I think people awaken originally to a spiritual dimension in their life in an incredibly wide variety of ways. Some people seem to open up to it through traumatic experiences, when people describe a near death experience or at a moment when they touch something much deeper than the traditional way that they thought about things. Other people arrived at that awakening through meditation or through religious experiences. Others arrive at it through sex or through drugs. There is a wide variety of ways.

I remember once lecturing in a hall back in the early 70’s. At that time most of my audiences were very young and they tended to wear white and they tended to smile a lot and wear flowers. At that time I wore beads and had a long beard. I recall that in the front row of my audience there was one woman who was about 70 and she had on a hat with little cherries and strawberries and things like that on it, false ones. And she was wearing black oxfords and a print dress and she had a black patent leather bag and I looked at her and I couldn’t figure out what she was doing in the audience cause she was so dissimilar from all the rest of the audience.

Our audiences were like a gathering of explorers clubs where we would come together and we would just share our experiences. So I started to describe some of my experiences, some of which were pretty far out and I looked at her and she was nodding with understanding, and I couldn’t believe that she could understand what I was talking about. I was describing experiences that I had had after using psychedelic chemicals, experiences that were very precious and far out. So I would try a little further out experience. I’d look over at her and there she was nodding away. I began to think maybe she had a problem with her neck that lead her to nod and maybe it had nothing to do whatsoever with what I was saying. And I kept watching and getting more and more fascinated and getting more and more outrageous in what I was saying and she kept nodding and nodding. At the end of the lecture I couldn’t resist, I just kind of smiled to her so intensely that she just had to come up and speak to me. And she came up and she said “Thank you so much. That makes perfect sense. That’s just the way I understand the universe to be.”

And I said, “How do you know? I mean, what have you done in your life that has brought you into those kinds of experiences?” She leaned forward very conspiratorially and she said, “I crochet”. And at that moment I realized that the ways in which people arrive at spiritual understanding was certainly a much wider variety of paths than what I had anticipated. I had begun to think that my way was the only way, which seems to be a common illness of people who get into spiritual work.”

Yetti

19th November 2014, 01:51

Hey David , we all do. ( trying to understand our agenda)

petter

3rd April 2015, 11:54

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CarlS

24th May 2015, 17:41

Hi David.

I also have found some new quantum physics revelations quite interesting. I just watched a video called "Dark Matters" which left me with a desire to close all particle colliders. Nissiam Haramien has a great move on new physics called "The Black Whole."

I have a story kind of interesting. When I was six, my step-dad came home drunk and started attacking my mom and aunt. I was upstairs and the noise woke me up. I grabbed my baseball bat and was going towards the stairs to stop him when a ghost appeared in a doorway next to the stairs. It was a bit fuzzy and the head was very undefined. It looked like a whitish silhouette of a old school diver with the helmet on. Anyway, he scared me and I didn't go down which in hindsight was for the best.

All I would have ended doing was giving my step-dad a weapon with which to kill us all. As it was, he just broke my mom's jaw and my aunt's foot. I don't think he was an ET (anymore than the rest of us are) but just chilling between lives. Maybe we can see the future a bit better when we aren't stuck in a body and the ghost knew I should leave the bat upstairs.

Much Love,
Carl

CarlS

24th May 2015, 18:18

I far as right and left brain, Delight, are you using these terms loosely? Figuratively I understand the concepts, I just wanted to clarify that it isn't literal in my opinion.

It is my experience that my brain is mainly a switch board. When I leave my body (whether death or simply an out of body journey), I am not using a brain. I, the immortal spiritual being, am the one making the decisions and calling the shots. A brain doesn't have much to do with this as far as I am aware of. The mind is a suit case of pictures I carry with me lifetime after lifetime and I can activate the mind and recreate the pictures if I decide to do so. Thus the mind, body, spirit combo. The brain is a piece of the body.

I'm not sure but I think the current meat bodies we are using have been manipulated through sabotaged DNA. I'm thinking that both the current DNA and brains of these bodies are lowering and in some cases stopping our access to our natural psychic abilities and our ability to fully perceive the realities around us. Theoretically, we can rise above the physical limiters and use all our abilities but there are other variables. The amnesia implants we get between lives slow us down also.

I remember a past life a couple thousand years ago when my Druid Elder was telling me that if I would commit suicide, I would ascend to a paradise. I stuck a knife in my gut and when I died, I simply popped out of the body to see it on the ground. There was no paradise and I realized the Elder was full of it. I was pissed. I think I decided not to believe that kind of crap anymore. I hung out until I found a pregnant woman and took the new body as it was being born.

Much Love,
Carl