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doetem
15th November 2014, 18:55
I follow a lot of folk here on Avalon. Enlightenment is coming and I want to be prepared.
but something ran across my mind the other day. I know Simon spoke of not going into the light. Aren't we here now because we failed? How can I be sure this won't happen when my life comes to an end? How do I even know im strong enough?
This keeps me up at night :(
Shezbeth
15th November 2014, 19:16
How can I be sure this won't happen when my life comes to an end? How do I even know im strong enough?
I suggest that you take the time you have to do your best in every venue and aspect of your experience. If - after doing so - you are not strong enough, then it doesn't matter; if you do your best there is no more than can be asked, expected, or demanded of you, and the chips will fall where they may.
If you are strong enough, well that's that now innit? ^_~
Gatita
15th November 2014, 19:36
Maybe you wake up in the next world. Maybe some part of you continues and regrets not completing the bucket list.
Cat
TrumanCash
15th November 2014, 19:37
Good question. I've been asking this one myself for quite a long time.
I don't think there are any guarantees, but I believe in the efficacy of the principle that the truth can set one free. Therefore, I have found that past life and in-between lives therapy is a good start. That is, simply finding the truth about one's past as an initial step. And that is different for everyone. Not everyone goes through the tunnel "to the light" upon death. Sometimes people choose for themselves whether to hang out for awhile or to make a mad dash for a hospital. For me it has been a routine thing because I am being prevented from interfering with the abduction program for this planet for the past fifteen thousand plus years. I have been given personal attention in this but I think most other people as spirits are going into a more automated system of "processing" ships/centers in-between lives. (I cover my own experiences in-between lives in THE EYE OF RA, link below, in the chapter "In-between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions.)
I think that first understanding the truth of the situation we are in is of prime importance and then firmly deciding not to go to the light while one is embodied is about the best one can do. In other words, plan out your future now. The mantids are the ones operating this artificial reincarnation system so, ultimately, we will have to come to some kind of terms with them to evolve out of that paradigm.
BTW, I do have reliable second hand information about a fellow who had extensive past life therapy (last lifetime) and he actually took his time to pick his parents (in-between lives). However, he did not remember that after he incarnated until he again undertook past life therapy this lifetime.
TLC
Pilutaq
15th November 2014, 20:54
found some information here
might be useful
http://http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/solutions.shtml
ZooLife
15th November 2014, 21:12
Death is the life dance.
Death is the not knowing of what you always know.
Milneman
15th November 2014, 21:24
There is also the chance (perish the thought) that Simon could be wrong.
You have far better things to keep you up at night than this problem. If it even is a problem.
Might you better be suited to ponder what to do with the time you have here and now? Let the afterlife look after itself, whatever it may or may not be.
Why are you here? You are here. What are you going to do with here while you are in it? ;)
Tiddly pom!
ZooLife
15th November 2014, 21:45
There is also the chance (perish the thought) that Simon could be wrong.
You have far better things to keep you up at night than this problem. If it even is a problem.
Might you better be suited to ponder what to do with the time you have here and now? Let the afterlife look after itself, whatever it may or may not be.
Why are you here? You are here. What are you going to do with here while you are in it? ;)
Tiddly pom!
It's all connected. You cannot minimize one without minimizing the other. You cannot elevate the one without elevating the other.
That is not entirely the case.... you could pretend that one is better or more important then the other.
Verdilac
15th November 2014, 21:47
What if you don't get a choice, what if its a pull like a magnet, imagine the moment your on a roller coaster at the very top,tension building and you reach that point of no return, then the pull, your in it till the bottom, no way out, welcome to your next life ,welcome to wherever you are, again
Shezbeth
15th November 2014, 21:50
No sense worrying about it in that event,....
Milneman
15th November 2014, 22:02
There is also the chance (perish the thought) that Simon could be wrong.
You have far better things to keep you up at night than this problem. If it even is a problem.
Might you better be suited to ponder what to do with the time you have here and now? Let the afterlife look after itself, whatever it may or may not be.
Why are you here? You are here. What are you going to do with here while you are in it? ;)
Tiddly pom!
It's all connected. You cannot minimize one without minimizing the other. You cannot elevate the one without elevating the other.
That is not entirely the case.... you could pretend that one is better or more important then the other.
Or....it isn't.
Choose.
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What if you don't get a choice, what if its a pull like a magnet, imagine the moment your on a roller coaster at the very top,tension building and you reach that point of no return, then the pull, your in it till the bottom, no way out, welcome to your next life ,welcome to wherever you are, again
Then you have no free will. And that's possible.
Or it isn't. :D
gardener2
15th November 2014, 22:21
In my experience of out of body I have often gone down the tunnel and into the light, I met many realatives there and people I wasn't conscious of knowing them but, I felt a deep connection to them all I know I haven't come to harm from this, but could it be that we all have different exist's, don't get me wrong I also had a very disturbing obe, so I guess it's a question of discernment, something I ask for every day is for the gift of discernment, that then leads you to the place you are destined to go after death at least that is what I have experienced and I have some friend's same experience. Only you can decide but it really isn't that bad that you are losing sleep because of it. maybe you could do some obe's as a kind of practice run. sorry that sounds a bit funny, im sure you will be having a laugh, but I say this with a true heart.
BF88
15th November 2014, 22:27
What i remember about going into the light is that if you do not go into it you kind of reset and start over. If you go into it you can avoid this process and come straight back if you chose. Perhaps it is to build on things you have done in the lifetime that has just ended, or perhaps i was duped by the soul trappers into believing that. I will be going straight into it next time.
ghostrider
15th November 2014, 22:47
On the path of everyone's evolution , there must be ups and downs , good and bad , victory and defeat , feast and famine ... you are the LIGHT , go to yourself ... don't go to another's light , go to yours ... inside the human being is an infinite Universe , a never ending Creation , death is only death of the material body , the spirit will live on and on , it never dies or sleeps in deepest sleep ... Look out into space , that's what you look like when your body is done ... an emerald mass of energy that will unite with other earth humans at the same stage , waiting 152 years and 21 days for a new body ...we can incarnate as many times as needed to change our world ... we get to live in the time that the ancients foretold of , the age of aquarius , the age of knowledge , leaving behind beliefs and embracing science and knowledge ... the last book of the bible is the time we live in , think about it ... we live in the last book ... it ends with us and begins anew with US ... we are the tipping point for 22 million years of earth history ... 22 million years to get to now and you and me and us ... our forefathers said when they first came to Earth they found out Earth had been visited for 22 million years ...
Milneman
15th November 2014, 22:52
Ghost, not necessarily.
The last book of the bible is commonly understood to be an interpretation on various levels of the early church age. Any time we enter into speculation about "metaphysical" meanings of any religious text, you end up walking of slippery ground. I would be very cautious about believing anyone/anything that has definitive knowledge about these kinds of things. I would be equally cautious about believing 'prophets' who, although they may have grey beards, lack the common sense or credibility their age suggests they 'should' possess.
Tiddly Pom. ;)
Verdilac
15th November 2014, 23:02
I liked what Gardener said,I never went anywhere near light the last time around, I wasn't very happy about crossing over,I do remember that,as I had everyone I needed around me and in my life , but that's not to say the light situation doesn't happen, but what if the light some people see is the 1st moments of your new life
As for not getting a choice,what if you make too many bad choices in your life then that choice is one that is taken away by yourself through self dought, or you do get a choice and make the decision to forget everything as it too confusing & wiping the slate clean may be a better idea, as we all have impulses that make us do great & good things but also bad things
ZooLife
15th November 2014, 23:17
There is also the chance (perish the thought) that Simon could be wrong.
You have far better things to keep you up at night than this problem. If it even is a problem.
Might you better be suited to ponder what to do with the time you have here and now? Let the afterlife look after itself, whatever it may or may not be.
Why are you here? You are here. What are you going to do with here while you are in it? ;)
Tiddly pom!
It's all connected. You cannot minimize one without minimizing the other. You cannot elevate the one without elevating the other.
That is not entirely the case.... you could pretend that one is better or more important then the other.
Or....it isn't.
Choose.
The choosing is superficial.
Meggings
16th November 2014, 00:03
doetem wrote: ... Simon spoke of not going into the light. Aren't we here now because we failed? How can I be sure this won't happen when my life comes to an end?
We are NOT here because we failed. We are here to learn and grow. Your best bet of not going into the light at the end of this lifetime is to decide not to NOW. Hold instead the thought that you want to return to your own greater soul, to Source - however you visualize your own higher self.
Shezbeth wrote:...if you do your best there is no more than can be asked....
Well said. Focus on your life here, and rest in that confidence.
Gatita wrote: ... Maybe some part of you continues and regrets not completing [something]...
Having regret is an energetic pull. If you have done your best, you can move on with clear energies that do not pull you back to complete something. Deep traumas in your life can also hold you "stuck" in lower 4D, so do some introspection and resolve what you are able to before leaving embodiment.
TrumanCash wrote: ...the truth can set one free...understanding the truth of the situation we are in is of prime importance and then firmly deciding not to go to the light while one is embodied...
Well spoke. Knowing something of the structures you might encounter will help you choose.
Verdilac wrote: What if you don't get a choice, what if its a pull like a magnet...
You get a choice, even if you feel a pull you need not respond to it. Keep your focus on going higher and returning to your higher soul.
I write as one who has at times walked seamlessly, consciously, between 4D into 3D and back again. We all do this every night when we go to sleep and our consciousness leaves the 3D body, but few remember it. There is nothing to fear, for even if you get so-called "trapped", you eventually will carry on, leaving this arena of life. Your greater soul has its plans for your evolution in hand, so trust comes into the equation that all is well. Fear can trap you, and the best antidote for that is knowledge.
I hope my few words have helped put you at ease. If you truly do not want to go into the light, then decide beforehand that you will not do so.
Sunny-side-up
16th November 2014, 00:04
Be at Peace and Love and don't fight!
Don't be shocked or mesmerized by the first light, have a look around :)
Hold great intent and wan't what is right and have faith that it will be right!
Look for what seems right to/for you, who could do more than that!
Love, Peace and Health
Alan
doetem
16th November 2014, 01:36
There is also the chance (perish the thought) that Simon could be wrong.
You have far better things to keep you up at night than this problem. If it even is a problem.
Might you better be suited to ponder what to do with the time you have here and now? Let the afterlife look after itself, whatever it may or may not be.
Why are you here? You are here. What are you going to do with here while you are in it? ;)
Tiddly pom!
I completely understand you.
These thoughts just come to me in the moment where I seem most vulnerable.
Im not scared of them but nervous.
And dont you worry! I am not forgetting about my time here in this body.
I'm using life to learn and have come to recognize that while I'm here, it's what I should do.
My beliefs will stick with me until I perish.
Perhaps the simple fact that they are are enough power and strength for me.
Infinite Merkaba
16th November 2014, 01:36
I follow a lot of folk here on Avalon. Enlightenment is coming and I want to be prepared.
but something ran across my mind the other day. I know Simon spoke of not going into the light. Aren't we here now because we failed? How can I be sure this won't happen when my life comes to an end? How do I even know im strong enough?
This keeps me up at night :(
We're certainly not here because we failed! We're here because we chose to be. We all have our different reasons for being here, some aligned, some not. I always like to use perspective, so I'd like to ask you, why are you here? The answer to this question has escaped me, I myself am aware that the reason I am here is being withheld from my consciousness until necessary and that's about all of it. However, it's not an answer of words for me that gives knowing, it's energy. Something that cannot be denied, cannot be falsified. These are hard times mentally, emotionally and spiritually and to be able to have something solid to always remind yourself of who you are, that this is not a mistake is a massive help. This brings me to my next perspective question, who are you? I don't mean anything of the physical reality. Who do you feel you are, what essence of energy do you exhume. You are a being beyond this physical reality experiencing the physical manifestation. You don't have to worry about what happens when your physical experience ends because it is an experience, you return to being you outside of this physical dimension.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that you are a beautiful being just like all of us here, we are all expanding and breaking through this current reality. It ultimately does not matter who, what, why, how or when. That's not the point, the point is the experience. I believe all of us here now are experiencing the ascension of humanity, so don't worry! Your perfect and there are no mistakes, we're ascending together, no one is left behind. Observe what you feel and I believe that you will see that it is just a fear, it is not you. The feeling of that fear feels so different to the feeling of you because it is not of you, you have nothing to fear, your here,
Your well on your way to Ascension.
Aren't we here now because we failed? No.
How can I be sure this won't happen when my life comes to an end?
If you don't want to experience that then you won't, simple. There is fear and then there is truth and the feelings are very different.
How do I even know im strong enough?
Your here earnestly doing your best as we all are through this change, you don't need braun, you just need awareness which you have a lot of.
Your heart will never lead you astray, the answer to your questions don't have to have words.
Namaste
doetem
16th November 2014, 01:43
Meggings, I think youve helped me understand. As I believe, so it shall be. My own beliefs should be power enough if I truly trust in them. I couldn't thank everyone on Avalon enough. So early on in my life I have come to understand this and TRULY have believe because I have somewhere to wander. This is why I want to thank everyone.
I feel that if im as I am now, it shouldnt be a problem for me later on
Infinite Merkaba
16th November 2014, 01:44
What if you don't get a choice, what if its a pull like a magnet, imagine the moment your on a roller coaster at the very top,tension building and you reach that point of no return, then the pull, your in it till the bottom, no way out, welcome to your next life ,welcome to wherever you are, again
You as a higher being do choose what you experience, everything changes as soon as your out of the physical paradigm, we haven't even scratched the surface of who we really are in terms of the greater dimensions, which cannot be ignored even though we are here in 3d. If you choose to re incarnate, then as such you will. What you perceive here is very different to what you perceive from higher vibration so sometimes it's just to hard to see what you wish to see, but you can still feel. Does it feel right, does it feel good, is it in alignment with me. No? Well don't worry.
Namaste
doetem
16th November 2014, 01:54
I follow a lot of folk here on Avalon. Enlightenment is coming and I want to be prepared.
but something ran across my mind the other day. I know Simon spoke of not going into the light. Aren't we here now because we failed? How can I be sure this won't happen when my life comes to an end? How do I even know im strong enough?
This keeps me up at night :(
Aren't we here now because we failed? No.
How can I be sure this won't happen when my life comes to an end?
If you don't want to experience that then you won't, simple. There is fear and then there is truth and the feelings are very different.
How do I even know im strong enough?
Your here earnestly doing your best as we all are through this change, you don't need braun, you just need awareness which you have a lot of.
Your heart will never lead you astray, the answer to your questions don't have to have words.
Namaste
Your response is appreciated will all my heart. It really helped me see a different perspective (it calmed me down a lot, too :o ). Thank you for this. I try to remind myself of this as frequently as possible. It's not as easy as I imagined it to be. I'd like to think I've near come to peace with everything. I know my soul is only a small fragment of something much bigger that is also me. And I also know that if given the chance, I'll go home to myself. Who knows? I may be given a choices after this life. And they may vary. But the one thing I'm certain of is that I'll stay true to my energy
Infinite Merkaba
16th November 2014, 02:01
Your response is appreciated will all my heart. It really helped me see a different perspective (it calmed me down a lot, too :o ). Thank you for this. I try to remind myself of this as frequently as possible. It's not as easy as I imagined it to be. I'd like to think I've near come to peace with everything. I know my soul is only a small fragment of something much bigger that is also me. And I also know that if given the chance, I'll go home to myself. Who knows? I may be given a choices after this life. And they may vary. But the one thing I'm certain of is that I'll stay true to my energy
It's my deep pleasure to help in any way! Your all over it, even though you feel like your not at times. You have many amazing and fulfilling realisations coming your way and I'm excited for you! Thank you for a wonderful co-creation :)
ghostrider
16th November 2014, 02:01
Ghost, not necessarily.
The last book of the bible is commonly understood to be an interpretation on various levels of the early church age. Any time we enter into speculation about "metaphysical" meanings of any religious text, you end up walking of slippery ground. I would be very cautious about believing anyone/anything that has definitive knowledge about these kinds of things. I would be equally cautious about believing 'prophets' who, although they may have grey beards, lack the common sense or credibility their age suggests they 'should' possess.
Tiddly Pom. ;)
I like the way you think ... this is the last time a prophet will appear , after the current one passes , we will be on our own for 661 years ... then we become real human beings ... lucky for us the prophet we have now is the spirit form of Henoch , and knows an age of 9 billion years old , hiding in the body of a one armed swiss farmer who keeps to himself ... he has given us the knowledge of creation , the seven stages of evolution, and keeps us in access with the star people from the seven sisters ... most just overlook it with doubt ... their loss
DarMar
16th November 2014, 02:04
if for example i call you to my house, and spend some time talking about my big beautiful hand made mirror, and persist that you should see it.
in meantime you meet some friend which warns you about looking into mirror, but he didn't actually experienced it, but there is that talk in air about how bad can go looking into mirror..
than you concentrate on mirror question..
my question is, when you actually come in that moment of being here is not would you look into mirror, but would you be able to percept house around you? and everything else?
how much of travel time you would be present in moment and living in NOW instead of contemplating about object of "interest" which youre about to "experience"?
on end it is just a mirror amongst mirrors .. same as light amongst lights? which light of those is object of interest?
in my world it would be pretty utopious to think about afterlight as a dark and white spot and tavel from A to B, choose between two, and all that duality nonsense in which are most stuck
angelfire
16th November 2014, 02:17
A Hathor perspective on death and transitional states of being - one which resonates for me.
http://tomkenyon.com/transition-states-of-consciousness
Innocent Warrior
16th November 2014, 02:26
Meggings has made the same suggestion I would, so I'll share an insight I received from my higher mind, when I asked the same question. Forgive me if it doesn't sound very higher mindish, my words are a clumsy attempt at conveying the messages I receive in energy form, as this one was.
Hypothetically speaking, let's say the intent of whoever created this light was to trap us here. From the perspective of our human self, this can be seen as a trap, but from the perspective of our entire soul, it can be used for if we choose to create the experience (we can only choose the experience, we aren't truly enslaved) of not being free or maybe even for the purpose of reincarnating, many uses. So, on the lower vibration reality, it could be a trap, a tool used to enslave our souls, while on the higher vibration reality, those who created this light are actually a tool for our souls. Co-creators, not enemies.
I didn't specifically ask my HM if this concept of the light is true or not, so I asked my HM if this is true when I began my reply, and the answer she gave me is this; everything outside us is an illusion, a grand stage on which to play out our dreams. It matters not, the intent of others, you are always free, despite what the illusion tells you.
I hope this helps. Much love to you.
rgray222
16th November 2014, 03:38
I know Simon spoke of not going into the light. Aren't we here now because we failed?
This keeps me up at night :(
I assure you that you are not here because you failed. Wow, how in that world did that thought process ever get started?! You are here because you want to be here. It is honestly that simple.
The white light is not a destination, it is just an entrance. It is neither good or bad, it is just a doorway.
Craig
16th November 2014, 06:05
I feel like it is a failure of sorts (for me), but I also think that failure isn't that bad? I just don't like being helpless in the rut
Infinite Merkaba
16th November 2014, 08:15
I feel like it is a failure of sorts (for me), but I also think that failure isn't that bad? I just don't like being helpless in the rut
A way of expansion is to completely forget who you are only to discover yourself again from an entirely new perspective. I always like to keep in my consciousness the fact that when I fall, when I feel helpless in a rut, I receive something enlightening, something amazing and expansive. It's like it's cyclic because I keep finding myself down again only to realise something again. It's a hard path at times, but it's also magical. There is direction to what can be perceived as a dead end. Failing/failures is a belief system that can be made useful to your expansion, given observation from the point of being your true self, so as to not identify with your mind because you haven't failed, you merely perceive it through your mind.
Everyone's perspective is true. It is their perspective of what is, like a million people standing around a cube, all will have a slightly different view of the same cube!
I hope you may better from this in some way
Namaste.
Craig
16th November 2014, 09:09
I feel like it is a failure of sorts (for me), but I also think that failure isn't that bad? I just don't like being helpless in the rut
A way of expansion is to completely forget who you are only to discover yourself again from an entirely new perspective. I always like to keep in my consciousness the fact that when I fall, when I feel helpless in a rut, I receive something enlightening, something amazing and expansive. It's like it's cyclic because I keep finding myself down again only to realise something again. It's a hard path at times, but it's also magical. There is direction to what can be perceived as a dead end. Failing/failures is a belief system that can be made useful to your expansion, given observation from the point of being your true self, so as to not identify with your mind because you haven't failed, you merely perceive it through your mind.
Everyone's perspective is true. It is their perspective of what is, like a million people standing around a cube, all will have a slightly different view of the same cube!
I hope you may better from this in some way
Namaste.
Thank you, thank you for your reply.
OmeyocaN777
16th November 2014, 10:18
What happens in death.....what about the light tunnel???
Well this thought troubles my mind for many years and i seek for an answer from a lot of others opinions and research.......
What i discovered until now and it's resonates with some others theories i have, is that the light tunnel we see, is the travel of the soul (speed of light) towards the SUN.
The sun is a portal in 4th dimension.
The soul which will cross it, gets to the center of galaxy and from there to the center of the universe (pleroma) from where we came in the first place.
The problem is the guardians of the sun.....
We live in a prison solar system where 4th dimension beings need our energy (sacred flame) in order to survive because they lost their connection with pleroma(ONE)
Well we know about this theory from gnostics and i don't think have to say more about the prison planet and the archons....
The guardians catch the souls before they will enter the sun (reincarnation).....this happens with many ways, it depends our religion and our philosophical beliefs (state of mind and soul)
There is one way to pass the guards, if we are IN GNOSIS.
In Plato's Allegory of the Cave and The Matrix, we understand in the end that the soul even if will manage to pass the guardians and return to Oneness, doesn't find peace and want to return to help the others.
So now it's obvious that our purpose here was from the beginning to help each other to find the truth and our real selves....it was not just to come back alone.....
I have and one last theory that is the expansion of this thought.
The archons are just souls like us who lost their inner light(amnesia)......this can happen if we stay in negative energy for a long time.....!!!!
So our Purpose from the Beginning was and still is, to Bring the Archons Back To Light.......!!!!!!!!??
We Are All ONE
Lifebringer
16th November 2014, 10:54
I was led to the Apocrypha, and there are also books on Adam Eve and God's relationship in detail. Adam was devestated to be kicked out of the garden to the point the cherub sent to guard the gate with the flaming sword, went before God, and God showed them mercy. Adam hit himself in the chest so hard he killed himself and had to be raised. Several times he took his life, and God had to raise him. Very interesting good reading. There are just as many books in the Apocrypha as there are in the Old Testament because the books bare witness of prophets from different human recall of the events of their time. For all we know(i say that because I'm just starting) the books could be the testimony after the cataclysms and remnant of civilizations that survived to testify. Look it up, its really a page turner, if you know what I mean. Adam was afraid of the dark, and God eased them, but would not yield the punishment of 5 and 1/2 days(5,500) according to God, and a covenant to Adam and Eve, "to return through his seed to save them of their fate; shed blood for his sin; and bring them back to the garden. Now if the times were hidden in these books to do the deceit, then it's important for us to know or at least be looking for it when it comes. I found it facinating and confirming that the meaning of the heavenly day of 1,000 years is correct. I'm only in the beginning so far, waiting for my son to repair my pc so I can finish writing my book.
It's good to get an idea of how wonderfully creative, the Creator God is. Awsome, firm and truly like a father to Adam and Eve. Once his punishment is given, it cannot be taken back, for the first man and all after must follow the laws of God. He already knows Satan's plans, so God knows what traps to snare the devil when he messes with us. He punished the serpent and made it hideous to the other animals to shun it. The serpent so angry at it's own punishment for tempting Eve to eat, lurched after her outside the garden, and Adam grabbed it by the tail, but it was very strong, and pinned them both, and God had to intervene. He seized the snake and brought the wind to send it to India. Amazing stuff.
http://sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/index.html
I believe all that was meant for us to read to know God/Creator/Christ, we should be reading and applying to where it may fit today.
Finefeather
16th November 2014, 11:55
Fortunately...there are going to be a lot of people on this forum, and out there, who will be quite relieved when death finally comes...and a lot who will realise just how wrong they have been about themselves and their current beliefs and claims.
Claims of all sorts of things about death...prison planet...bad white lights...alien abduction...and all kind of scary things that we have imagined in our lives, will be suddenly realised as just our own ignorance of life, and the ability we have to create anything we like, with our rampant imaginations, to make us feel how much more important we think we should be, or how much danger we are in.
The greatest problem is that many have bought into these claims and imaginings, without having one bit of real concrete evidence...except what someone else has told them...or what they have read.
With all the horrendous things some have claimed will happen to us, I often wonder just how these people sleep at night...maybe they sleep ok...because maybe deep inside them they are just as confused as everyone else and just make up these stories to justify their own ignorance.
It won't be long to wait to find this out because with a lifespan of anything from 1 day to over 100 years...the answers may just be a few sleeps away :)
So why not just live your life as if it is going to end tomorrow...love yourself...love other...do no harm and care for all...we are still all one big human family...we only think there are walls around us...there are none...actually.
Take care
Ray
Wind
16th November 2014, 12:29
Then you wake up from this dream and remember, but don't take my word for it. You'll just have to wait and see. :)
Live well and die well. Birth isn't when life begins and death isn't when it ends, they are just points of transformation in our lives. In the meantime, be here and now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q6E4J433R4).
Skyhaven
16th November 2014, 12:42
then there's a whole lot more :o
ghostrider
16th November 2014, 15:13
Due to overpopulation , time between lifetimes normally 152 years and 21 days , spirits can return only after 20 or 30 or 50 years ... Not to mention we received all the lives from Malona/phaeton the destroyed planet where now circles the asteroid belt ... the whole feeling of not belonging on Earth , and feeling like a man in a womans body or a woman in a man's body is from the incarnation cycles being disrupted by overpopulation ... the spirit form of humans is denied learning time in the spiritual realm hence humanities loss for the things of spiritual nature while in a material body ... spiritual people feel natural about it for they have spent more time in the energy field of Earth , the required 152 years and 21 days between incarnations ... our ET friends say it all started in 1844 the beginnings of the new epoch or the new time , the age of knowledge ...
David Allen
16th November 2014, 18:48
Hello all:
I have listened to almost all of Simon Parke's interviews, and I seem to have missed the fact that he suggested to "Not go into the Light" upon transitioning after this lifetime.
Would someone be kind enough to post the link where he stated this? I would appreciate it greatly.
Thanks in advance,
David
doetem
16th November 2014, 19:12
This is very interesting, ghost!
Any way I can read on this? I would love to learn more of this
doetem
16th November 2014, 19:18
Fortunately...there are going to be a lot of people on this forum, and out there, who will be quite relieved when death finally comes...and a lot who will realise just how wrong they have been about themselves and their current beliefs and claims.
Claims of all sorts of things about death...prison planet...bad white lights...alien abduction...and all kind of scary things that we have imagined in our lives, will be suddenly realised as just our own ignorance of life, and the ability we have to create anything we like, with our rampant imaginations, to make us feel how much more important we think we should be, or how much danger we are in.
The greatest problem is that many have bought into these claims and imaginings, without having one bit of real concrete evidence...except what someone else has told them...or what they have read.
With all the horrendous things some have claimed will happen to us, I often wonder just how these people sleep at night...maybe they sleep ok...because maybe deep inside them they are just as confused as everyone else and just make up these stories to justify their own ignorance.
It won't be long to wait to find this out because with a lifespan of anything from 1 day to over 100 years...the answers may just be a few sleeps away :)
So why not just live your life as if it is going to end tomorrow...love yourself...love other...do no harm and care for all...we are still all one big human family...we only think there are walls around us...there are none...actually.
Take care
Ray
This is very lovely to hear!
I try to live my day out knowing that I am here now and with a reason (though I may not know why yet).
And I'd like to think that given endless possibilities, I chose to here now. May it be for more experiences or what have you.
I am enjoying my life. Even more so that I have the beliefs that I do.
I don't feel as bound as I did to live a certain way and with certain rules.
Free to do what I please.
This is amazing
OmeyocaN777
16th November 2014, 21:21
Hello all:
I have listened to almost all of Simon Parke's interviews, and I seem to have missed the fact that he suggested to "Not go into the Light" upon transitioning after this lifetime.
Would someone be kind enough to post the link where he stated this? I would appreciate it greatly.
Thanks in advance,
David
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Watch from 1'11''50 until 1'20''00
Simon Parkes speaks about the Light Tunnel
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watch from1'11''37 until 1'12''55
Simon Parkes speaks about the Guards and the Energy Grid
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