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RunningDeer
17th November 2014, 03:16
Hello Avalonians,
I’ve set up the thread for desertrat46. He’ll take it from here.
He and his family thanks everyone in advance for healing and any suggestion you may have for him.
Specific concerns and a bit of the back story:
- heart surgery 11 years ago at forty-two
- put on Plavix, after surgery which causes severe insomnia and mental fatigue
- looked into the C-Pap machine, which is designed to administer oxygen while you sleep. He was not accepted as a good candidate for the study.
- not interested in surgery
- knee problems from years of work on knees
- ringing in ears
One question desertrat46 asks, “Is oxygen is the key?” So he's inquired about 35% food grade Hydrogen Peroxide, and has been directed to research this thread: "My experience of taking Hydrogen Peroxide 35% food grade, diluted in water (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71893-My-experience-of-taking-Hydrogen-Peroxide-35-food-grade-diluted-in-water&highlight=Hydrogen+Peroxide+Food+Grade)”
Thanks Everyone.
RunningDeer <3
Gatita
17th November 2014, 03:30
Oxygen probably wouldn't hurt. Pulse oximeters are available over the counter and are not expensive. Wearing one at night and having someone check the readings throughout the night would identify whether or not d is staying adequately oxygenated during sleep. If oxygen is indicated, but a C-Pap isn't appropriate, perhaps a prescription for O2 via nasal canula or a non-rebreather mask would be possible.
I'm not terribly familiar with Plavix, but I wonder if the tinnitus is a side effect. A different anti-coagulant might be a better choice. A pharmacist would be a good resource for answering that question.
Insomnia and mental fatigue tend to go hand in hand. Sleep deprivation also contributes to generalized inflammation. The generalized inflammation definitely won't improve the knee problems. A pharmacist might be able to recommend some supplements that would help with comfort.
If I think of anything else, I'll post it. What I've posted at this point is based on my experience working as a nursing assistant on a cardiac floor, and working as a nurse in home care.
Cat
RunningDeer
17th November 2014, 03:48
Oxygen probably wouldn't hurt. Pulse oximeters are available over the counter and are not expensive. Wearing one at night and having someone check the readings throughout the night would identify whether or not d is staying adequately oxygenated during sleep. If oxygen is indicated, but a C-Pap isn't appropriate, perhaps a prescription for O2 via nasal canula or a non-rebreather mask would be possible.
I'm not terribly familiar with Plavix, but I wonder if the tinnitus is a side effect. A different anti-coagulant might be a better choice. A pharmacist would be a good resource for answering that question.
Insomnia and mental fatigue tend to go hand in hand. Sleep deprivation also contributes to generalized inflammation. The generalized inflammation definitely won't improve the knee problems. A pharmacist might be able to recommend some supplements that would help with comfort.
If I think of anything else, I'll post it. What I've posted at this point is based on my experience working as a nursing assistant on a cardiac floor, and working as a nurse in home care.
Cat
Thank you, Cat. I've PM desertrat46 and left the link to the thread on his message board for when he comes back on line.
Paula <3
Seeker of Knowledge
17th November 2014, 04:00
Okay I was drawn to this thread. I want to help. I would suggest Germanium, supplemented by 35% food grade. Chlorella along with Magnesium. Magnesium is the upload for water in the body. If you do not have enough mag. you can drink many liters of water but not being able to upload it into the cells.
thepainterdoug
17th November 2014, 04:07
wish i could help! i have no advise regarding these specific problems, however in general, i stopped eating all wheat about a year ago, along with taking turmeric to help any joint swelling from my ice hockey activity. all have helped and i no longer have digestion problems or allergies. i do have a high pitched ringing in the ears but i have learned to live with it.
my sincere best wishes to desert rat and I believe any all advice from members is worth looking at.
Gatita
17th November 2014, 04:24
Okay I was drawn to this thread. I want to help. I would suggest Germanium, supplemented by 35% food grade. Chlorella along with Magnesium. Magnesium is the upload for water in the body. If you do not have enough mag. you can drink many liters of water but not being able to upload it into the cells.
Magnesium citrate is the most easily absorbed form. Magnesium oxide, is more common, but has less bioavailability.
Cat
Natalia
17th November 2014, 05:35
Perhaps D-Ribose would help
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76425-D-Ribose-for-Energy-Production
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Napping
17th November 2014, 06:11
For anyone who is post major cardiac surgery a graded exercise program is the key. This might be challenging given the knee Arthritis so looking at getting into a good routine on the exercise bike or swimming pool is a good start. To aid this exercise he needs to be on sufficient pain relief initially but steer clear of anti-inflammatories given problems with the ticker. The main reason for a cpap machine would be for sleep apnoea. I personally think they're massively over-prescribed and once people get their weight under control (often easier said than done) oxygen intake nocturnally improves.
Steer clear of the pharmacist when messing with heart medications, your best advised by your cardiologist - it can be a very risky game playing with those drugs.
Like so many things it would be great if a magic pill was the answer to these types of issues, but more often than not, exercise, good diet and minimising stress is where most of the battle is won.
Not particularly sexy advice, but often the most straight forward stuff is not adhered to, yet is the most beneficial.
If he wants more specific advice around exercise in general or specifically to manage his knees get him to pm me.
Cheers,
Matt
Lifebringer
17th November 2014, 09:26
Look into the "onion's" chemicals that induce sleep. I put them in salads, and heavily in soups and I tell you those chemicals induce sleep. Orange juice makes our family sleepy when we have it w/breakfast though. LOL, but try some onions for the sleep and vinegar to keep the blood thin and reduce plaque build up. Ever see a pickle pick up fat? It doesn't. Just my two cents.
Lifebringer
17th November 2014, 09:30
PS. Stop eating the fatty cow meat. If it stuck in the cows muscles and body, it will stick in yours.
Fish, chicken, tuna, salmon for omega good fats, veggies steamed, baked potatoes, tropical fruits like papaya, mango, plums, peaches. All of these fruits are excellent. I think we all have a little island diet chemicals long neglected.
Stephanie
17th November 2014, 11:08
Thank you dear Runningdeer for sharing with us.
Maybe some adjustments to the spinal column, as that maybe blocked, placing pressure and stress on certain organs.[ Tightness in neck and shoulder region should then ease]
Keep good circulation to the feet area. Find what resonates with you, while following some of the wonderful suggestions here and in the healing threads.
Sending you love and harmony, wrapped in warm healing, spiral light, dear and lovely Desertrat46.
Gatita
17th November 2014, 11:15
Although Napping says to steer clear of the pharmacist, in favor of the cardiologist, the two professions actually work best in tandem. The cardiologist knows how to take care of the heart. The pharmacist is much better at identifying potential drug interactions. That's why most large hospitals have their pharmacy teams round with their doctors.
Cat
Matt P
17th November 2014, 12:28
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. My wife is a nurse practitioner and this is the gist of our conversation on this.
So, we're assuming there was a stent put in place and the Plavix was given as basically a blood thinner, with the expectation probably being shared that it will have to be for a lifetime (typical "positive" western medical approach). Plavix is not only choice so it would be nice to know why doc chose this one.
Not really clear what the problems are. Just the insomnia and mental fatigue?
Your cardiologists and your pharmacists have only a limited numbers of tools in their tool box and they pretty much all take pill form. Mainstream medicine is not designed to cure, only to manage symptoms while allowing for the greatest profit potential. It's been my wife's experience on a cardiac floor for 6 years that most docs really are just experimenting with drug combinations and make frequent mistakes and do not articulate alternative approaches. Very dangerous to just trust drugs to fix anything. We found Napping's non-sexy advice to be the most sound. Exercise, diet, reduce stress. It's been shown that walking is more effective than meds for reducing blood pressure and improving heart health. Most doctors know absolutely nothing about diet or nutrition. Focus on whole foods, nothing processed, lots of fresh veggies. No gmo's. If vaccines have been or are being taken, stop, and consider heavy metal detox. Good water (no chlorine or fluoride) and lots of it. Little to no meat consumption is best (Lifebringer). Magnesium smart (Gatita). Lots of ways to reduce stress.
I would find and talk to an herbalist. If you can't, let me know and I'll put you in touch with a good one I know, the real deal.
As for the insomnia and mental fatigue, perhaps a little puff in the evening and a boring book? ;-) That's my little idea, not my wife's.
RunningDeer, I'm sure if your friend is willing to step outside the mainstream medicine box, there are many ways to make improvements.
Matt
Baby Steps
17th November 2014, 13:00
Hi,
(NOT MEDICAL ADVICE JUST PERSONAL EXPERIENCE)
my snoring is helped by light veg based dinner(or a smoothie), and I think inflammation applies to the epiglottis as much as the cardiovascular system.
Tonsil infections helped by brushing with bicarbonate
Anti inflammatory diet-cut out sugars, bad carbs, wheat,bad fats and try to find out if there is any inflammatory agent specific to you
Anti inflammatory things I like-cocoa, turmeric, garlic, cinnamon, ginger, leafy greens.
Fluoride causes calcification of arterial plaque
Vitamin K helps reduce this
Tomato paste(lycopene) helps keep arteries elastic
Best regards
H
RunningDeer
17th November 2014, 13:43
RunningDeer, I'm sure if your friend is willing to step outside the mainstream medicine box, there are many ways to make improvements.
Matt
Thanks again for everyones help. I hope desertrat46 checks in soon to see there's a lot of great ideas on his thread.
Matt, I didn’t ask if he’s willing to step out of mainstream medicine. When he asked for advice or point him where to go, I suggested that we open it up to everyone because I don’t know anything about drugs.
Prevention is my advice. Life in balance. Attention to what thoughts one feeds the mind and body. Whole foods, light movement such as walking, Tai Chi, simple yoga stretches and detox.
I experiment with products like MMS and hydrogen peroxide. With all the ebola and what was it before ebola? I’ve got products for immune system health that’s been discussed on the forum.
I find my body works best with less. But I’d not advise that to anyone. I’m always vigilant about being open to try something new.
Nix toxic people, thoughts, and beliefs. In a nut shell it’s listen and change what needs changing before it takes on a version that depletes reasons for being.
Paula <3
sheme
17th November 2014, 15:50
Hi,
(NOT MEDICAL ADVICE JUST PERSONAL EXPERIENCE)
my snoring is helped by light veg based dinner(or a smoothie), and I think inflammation applies to the epiglottis as much as the cardiovascular system.
Tonsil infections helped by brushing with bicarbonate
Anti inflammatory diet-cut out sugars, bad carbs, wheat,bad fats and try to find out if there is any inflammatory agent specific to you
Anti inflammatory things I like-cocoa, turmeric, garlic, cinnamon, ginger, leafy greens.
Fluoride causes calcification of arterial plaque
Vitamin K helps reduce this
Tomato paste(lycopene) helps keep arteries elastic
Best regards
H
Vitamin K causes blood to clot more readily and was used as the antidote to blood thinner meds be aware this could have poor outcome for you.
Gardener
17th November 2014, 16:11
Just to reinforce what MattP and Cat said about magnesium citrate, a much overlooked mineral which we are ALL rather short of. From my personal experience magnesium in powder form can have an effect within minutes on heart rhythm and muscle spasm, seriously!! Citrate has the best absorption rate. Most days I make a half pint glass of filtered boiled (cooled to warm) water, adding, half a teaspoon each of MagCitrate, ascorbic acid, and Bicarbonate of soda (going easy on the ascorbic acid until you find your personal level).
Fiz fantastic :)
PS not forgetting the Vit D3 (4,000) another one we are all short of. The recommended on this is 400 no where near enough.
Snoweagle
17th November 2014, 19:25
I had two heart attacks in 2000
I have two stents inserted.
Statistically, according to the UK death service of the National Health Service I should have died five years after the fitting. Thankfully for me I didn't, unfortunate for readers of Avalon though.
My first heart attack, my right coronary artery (consisting of three veins, google for info) were occluded (BLOCKED) by the following percentages, 98%, 87% and 65%. The military medical team managing my hospital care were horrified when they were told I was not to recieve surgery as I was "poor" and the surgery was booked with "rich" paying through their lucrative insurances.
I was given a "stress test". I ran on a running machine in the hospital and my heart rate was monitored and the objective was to keep my heart pounding at around 200bpm for several minutes until I was deemed "fit" to go home. I passed the test.
My second heart attack occurred two weeks later in the work place, the ambulance crew arrived, placed me in the back of the ambulance with the paramedic frantically preparing the "little jabs" from the biggest freaking syringes I'd ever seen but he was unable to find a vein in my left side so was tapping and slapping my right arm to find one appropriate. During this entire period I was becoming more and more light headed and was finding this disproportionately funny. I turned to my left to "the machine that goes ping" and watched my heart rate tick down from 48, 47, 46 . . .
I awoke in hospital - I thought I was in heaven - felt no gravity - no perception of my surroundings - felt so infinitely aware in this darkness - I must have wings I thought . . .
Well no, this was the UK NHS, what ever they had done to keep me alive they beat the crap out of me, they must have been taking turns twatting me that battery charger zapper of theirs, sort of practice for abattoir work, once completed they had trussed me so tightly in blankets I was virtually mummified whilst still alive. I suppose edging their bets, ward or morgue, see if I wake sort of thing.
What ever happened they must have felt guilty, as I survived their best beating and a month later they inserted the stents. That was it. No after care other than annual checcks for a few years before my Doctors evicted me from their practice for not taking medication of any sort.
So thats my story - What about your friend, how does this help your friend.
First thing he has to do is a complete lifestyle change. He has to eat ONLY natural foods that he would be able to pick himself. No packaged food whatsoever. No oil in his diet whatsoever, all the bodies nutrient oils can be fouind from a very strong regime of vegetables, fruit, nuts and berries. No Beer or Spirits, occasional glass of wine, always in moderation. No sitting in front of televsion or idle wasteful time, regular and interesting activities (think of himself his youthful self, nothing dumb)
He must find a regime that takes himm OFF medication. The medication keeps one part alive and kills another. The body does NOT need it.
I produce a veg pot continually. It contains around fifteen vegetables in equal layers to the point where the pot lid is supported on the top of vegetables and rim. I simmer that for 4-6hours and each day I take a very generous helping with the other things I eat. I NEVER eat fry or oily based meals (this is untrue, as when guesting at dinners am happy to indulge the occasional meal, and occasional is weeks or months).
Never drink pop or sugary sports drinks, if he is thirsty drink water, or hot beverage. NO refined sugar at all.
Within months of my heart attacks I started stopping the medications I was put on. They were killing me. I started with one and the Doctor insisted on another and each time it made me worse. I realised I was a walking experiment and they realy do not give a crap. So I weaned mysellf off all the medications within twelve months and immediately felt better, awesome even.
Angina - I didn't suffer many attacks, very few in fact and in that I have to praise those around me at that time. Each attack followed a spell of heightened activity, a family celebration, a little to much indulgence, nothing heavy but the body was still not ready.
Physical exercise - lots of walking in nature and natrual surroundings, avoid gym work for a year or two and then at baby pace, EVEN when the muscled body screams for more, the heart is broken and that must be hammered into the psyche throughout especially for bigger men, their mates are to one to hammer that home.
Resting - ESSENTIAL, you sit and rest when YOUR BODY tells you. When you feel drowsy or sleepy go and lie down and let your body do it's healing while you rest, the waking will feel fantastic. Always rest when the body says so during the healing period. Men are bastards, we always play the hard man on girlie things like this, so if he doesn't take the rest, make him.
Healing period - always divisible by seven, I advise others they can expect to be locked into their regime, after something as serious as heart problems, it would be seven and a bit years, the Scuman resonance in years.
So in the order of this regime:
left hospital, changed my lifestyle, changed my diet, was glad to see the sun rise in the west once again.
weaned myself off the drugs, always kept them close at hand and managed my duties according to my now defined limits, yeh, no more bull running
lots of exercise, no manual labour, light duties intersperced with rest and sleep, regular intake of water. (I was working within a month, light duties only, it was almost twelve months before I returned home after a day at work without collapsing on the bed fully clothed and slepping for several hours) (the hospital had signed me off work for six months but I hadn't any money to live so . . . comes of being an Irish immigrant in the UK)
avoid vexatious things and surrounded myself with positive interests
Anyways, I hope this helps, it helped me, this occurred to me fourteen years ago, I wish you and your friend the warmest blessing.
Natural healing is only beneficial if the healing is natural. Stay away from the built environment of man.
desertrat46
17th November 2014, 19:33
My cardiologist wanted to put me on a stronger med to lower my cholesterol (big phrama) even more? I learned you need fat in your body, its these low fat diets that hurt you. Besides I'm not over weight at all, I'm skinny. I do watch what I eat, and not much in the way of sugars either. But if I do drink something that has sugar, my pee is really foamy. And no I'm not a diabetic, thank the stars for that. Thank you again!
desertrat46
17th November 2014, 20:07
Hello, well after surgery, I was on Plavix for 8yrs, no one told to stop this? I hear that typically 6 months on Plavix is normal? Its been almost 11 yrs now since heart attack. As you know too much of blood thinner can cause damage also. I cannot nap for some reason, norm for me, and sleeping is at best 4 hrs/night. I take Ambien every other night, now, and another sleep aide the other nights. I add Valerian root to everything, and not sure it works at all really. Valerian root by it self, does nothing for me. I try on occasion, Calm powder (magnesium), but too much of this and you get the runs. I'm a really hard case. I like the idea what to do for insomnia, maybe, but to get a script costs $500 here, and no insurance picks this up?
21g
17th November 2014, 20:30
Be sure to garner plenty of opinion, professional, aswell as anecdotal,
before making any radical changes.
Some local honey, taken in the evening, does promote sleep.
A good restorative when taken regular.
The very best to you.
G.
Michael Moewes
17th November 2014, 20:33
Ok. about the oxygen, I'm no specialist. but on the other things I may help. all this symptoms can be healed by a severe diet.
Completely vegan and absolute no milk products. because cowmilk increases arthritis, takes away calcium and enriches mucos in all inner organs. I advice as well a large scale of algues as there are some excellent ones wich help rebuilt what milk has destroyed.
there are some plants too from the amazonian jungle wich may help.
check out. http://www.inkanatural.com/
that's my source for graviola.
This doctor is spanish but he's awesome about natural healing.
http://www.doctorjoseluisvazquez.com/
I hope he gets well asap.
Live healthy
Michael Moewes
17th November 2014, 21:00
I had two heart attacks in 2000
I have two stents inserted.
Statistically, according to the UK death service of the National Health Service I should have died five years after the fitting. Thankfully for me I didn't, unfortunate for readers of Avalon though.
.
That's an Irish through and through, spitting the devil in his face, while smiling at him.
Awesome story and statement. like it big time.
Keep healthy
Ki's
17th November 2014, 21:56
CPAP machine: continuous positive airway pressure. The machine uses an airtight mask over the nose and mouth and increases air pressure in the throat to prevent the airway from collapsing when breathing. During sleep, the back of the throat relaxes and blocks the airway. Usually they are not used with oxygen, although they can be. During sleep he probably is de-satting but using oxygen without addressing the cause of the apnea doesn't do much to help. Sleep apnea places a significant strain on the heart and can increase blood pressure.
There are some simple throat and tongue exercises ( check the website of the American Sleep Apnea Assoc. for examples) Clinical trials have been very encouraging and I have personally seen some significant patient improvement in my nursing practice. They are simple to do and take about 20 minutes a day.
I would certainly agree with diet changes especially if there is a weight issue. I've read that green tea is helpful for knee pain.
Stephanie
7th December 2014, 20:09
Dear Desertrat46, please keep us informed about your progress.
May you be well, blessings.
Mike
7th December 2014, 23:09
Coq10, carnitine, ribose, magnesium....
Also, oxygen can be accessed in many ways. You can get ozone in powder form now (homozon). There's also food grade hydrogen peroxide and various other oxy supps, such as 'cell food', 'oxygen elements max', oxylift etc....
I'd suggest reading ed McCabe's classic 'flood your body with oxygen'. Lots of great ideas in there.
Good luck!
karelia
7th December 2014, 23:19
You're back! *dances happy dance*
Anchor
7th December 2014, 23:22
This thread has focussed exclusively on the physcial aspects of the problem. It seems sad to me that we always look to the physical for solutions to healing - that is old paradigm thinking in my opinion and is a symptom of how we are all conditioned to assume that the physical body must be treated with physician tools.
Obviously the patient must meet the immediate needs to stay alive and there is no bad first aid for that - many methods available - but intent is the key.
When contemplating the longer term healing surely we must also factor in to our planning for the mental, emotional and spiritual layers of our being.
What is expressed in the physical is often a distortion in some manner of the energy bodies about which the physical is formed.
-- Updated: removed incorrect observation --
RunningDeer
8th December 2014, 03:07
Hi John,
[ BTW: The topic title says mental fatigue but the summary in the OP does not refer to this. ]
The title is “Avalon Member Asks for Suggestions and Healing”. And in the summary 'mental fatigue’ is included. (see below)
…
I’ve set up the thread for desertrat46. He’ll take it from here.
He and his family thanks everyone in advance for healing and any suggestion you may have for him.
Specific concerns and a bit of the back story:
- heart surgery 11 years ago at forty-two
- put on Plavix, after surgery which causes severe insomnia and mental fatigue
You're back! *dances happy dance*
Ditto...happy dance. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/orjnfq.gif
There's also food grade hydrogen peroxide and various other oxy supps, such as 'cell food', 'oxygen elements max', oxylift etc....
Good luck!
RunningDeer <3
onawah
8th December 2014, 04:43
See my post here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73254-The-Cancer-epidemic-is-20-times-the-Polio-epidemic&p=859345&viewfull=1#post859345
Fresh (not bottled) aloe vera is loaded with oxygen and many other nutrients which help eliminate inflammation and do a lot more.
Fresh aloe is more work than the convenience of a bottled product, but it's well worth it.
Turmeric and Curcumin are also highly recommended for inflammation.
If you can get raw cannabis leaves and juice them, there are amazing benefits being reported, if not, try raw hemp seeds.
Blessings!
Anchor
8th December 2014, 06:50
The title is “Avalon Member Asks for Suggestions and Healing”. And in the summary 'mental fatigue’ is included. (see below)
Hmmm. Sorry. I don't know what I was thinking. Must have jumbled brains today. I removed that observation from my post.
I think the rest was ok ;)
RunningDeer
8th December 2014, 14:46
The title is “Avalon Member Asks for Suggestions and Healing”. And in the summary 'mental fatigue’ is included. (see below)
Hmmm. Sorry. I don't know what I was thinking. Must have jumbled brains today. I removed that observation from my post.
I think the rest was ok ;)
Your post was spot on: "When contemplating the longer term healing surely we must also factor in to our planning for the mental, emotional and spiritual layers of our being."
When I wrote about 'balance' that's what I implied because to often my posts sound the same. I also believe a lot of dis-ease is created in the mind. It's imperative to pay attention to the thoughts one feeds it.
Paula <3
RunningDeer
8th December 2014, 15:07
I've felt strongly about this since the early 1970's.
“We deprogram our ability to heal ourselves,” by Bruce Lipton
Snippets:
We’ve been so programed to devalue and disempower ourselves that we see ourselves as victims. Some frail biological entities, ripe for bacteria to eat us all up. Which is totally untrue.
And the joke? Many people get well on the way to the doctors. Without having any treatment. And the reason is: they already had the ability to get well but the program step says, “Until you do this, the healing doesn’t start.” So we deprogram our ability to heal ourselves.
We’re just average people. We have no extraordinary powers. Even healing isn’t one of our powers. That's a belief.
What’s interesting is that we have an innate ability to heal ourselves. So you actually stall your own ability to heal yourself until you go to the doctor.
We have to start from that belief and change these beliefs to who we really are. We are profoundly powerful people. We can walk across hot coals. A woman can lifted a car off an infant … Where’s the frail image come from? That’s a belief.
Segment break downs with quick links, and some paraphrased notes:
Can you explain the difference between Newtonian Physics and Quantum Physics and how they respectively view the world? @ 4:17 (http://youtu.be/o1Tt0yGMm88?t=4m17s)
Can you explain how the viewpoint of Newtonian Physics limits our ability to heal our bodies? @ 8:29 (http://youtu.be/o1Tt0yGMm88?t=8m29s)
Is positive thinking enough to change your life? @ 12:17 (http://youtu.be/o1Tt0yGMm88?t=12m17s)
Problem? Having a positive thought does not in any way necessitate that those positive thoughts actually manifest themselves. There’s a piece that was left out…
How does our childhood programing effect our current health? @ 26:55 (http://youtu.be/o1Tt0yGMm88?t=26m55s)
What do we acquire in that 0-6 year development? That we’re just average people. We have no extraordinary powers. Even healing isn’t one of our powers. Because every time we got sick, we were told we had to go to the doctor to get healed. That’s an experiential program. So what does my subconscious mind learn from this experience? Every time I’m sick I have to go to the doctors. Why? Apparently it’s the step before you get healed. So we build that into the program. What’s interesting is that we have an innate ability to heal ourselves. So you actually stall your own ability to heal yourself until you go to the doctor.
And the joke? Many people get well on the way to the doctors. Without having any treatment. And the reason is: they already had the ability to get well but the program step says, “Until you do this, the healing doesn’t start.” So we deprogram our ability to heal ourselves.
How does unconscious beliefs affect our health? @ 28:06 (http://youtu.be/o1Tt0yGMm88?t=28m6s)
It’s based on our individual programs. Because we’ve been so programed to devalue and disempower ourselves that we see ourselves as victims. Some frail biological entities, ripe for bacteria to eat us all up. Which is totally untrue. So we have to start from that belief and change these beliefs to who we really are. We are profoundly powerful people. We can walk across hot coals. A woman can lifted a car off an infant … Where’s the frail image come from? That’s a belief.
Have you seen people change their lives using EFT? @ 29:23 (http://youtu.be/o1Tt0yGMm88?t=29m23s)
What false beliefs are still being taught to us today about our biology and our health? @ 30:36 (http://youtu.be/o1Tt0yGMm88?t=30m36s)
Science & Theory behind the Tapping World Summit - Bruce Lipton
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A field approach to science does not negate the importance of discovering the various mechanism of function that are found in biology. However, a mechanical approach alone limits the scope of discovery while a field approach expands it
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