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19th November 2014, 10:08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpTsMrU-nIk

[QUOTE]The Madeleine McCann disappearance has become one of the most enduring mysteries of our time and has generated thousands of front page headlines. Despite the unprecedented coverage, few people have detailed understanding of the evidence of the case. Mainstream media has been used to create diversion and confusion over what really happened, rather than inform their readers of the facts. We present the most detailed documentary yet produced about this case. Focusing on witness statements, physical and circumstantial evidence, media articles, police photographs and more leaving the viewer with a comprehensive understanding of the facts. Once the facts are laid bare, mainstream media are shown to be nothing more than a tool of propaganda in the hands of those trying to control the public's perception of reality for a range of nefarious purposes.

This is a stunning documentary using nothing but the quotes of the McCanns themselves. It does NOT put them in a good light AT ALL.

Cardillac

19th November 2014, 16:44

I confess I haven't accessed the provided video but I just feel the Madeleine McCann case is just one of countless repeats of the Jon Benet Ramsey case in Colorado; the parents know more than they've stated; ever seen photos of the McCann parents?- do they look "nice"?- no-

so why was this couple granted an audience with the POPE in the Vatican (knowing how shady the Vatican may be)?-

I can only hope this darling-looking little girl (with the very unusual physical tear-drop from her right iris according to photos) is still alive although I highly doubt it- evil-doers tend to eradicate 'darlings' first after they've initially abused them-

Ahnung-quay

20th November 2014, 23:51

At the least, Madeleine's parents should have been charged with negligence. Who leaves their small children alone to go out to eat? Not like they couldn't afford a baby sitter!

boutreality

26th November 2014, 11:59

Naturally, nothing to be said for certain. Though I do feel that occasionally select parents are approached to sell their children into bondage by the worshipers of death and deviance that control this planet. I definitely remember feeling that is what happened in the Bennet Ramsey case. These stories that make press are the ones that do not happen 'cleanly' likely just to stir up some media scare fodder.

The sit atop a system dependent upon 'collecting' and using our emotions against us.

norman

25th November 2016, 18:37

McCann's Embedded Confessions

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Published on Nov 25, 2016
In November 2016 I travelled to the United States to meet and interview Peter Hyatt. Peter is a highly respected expert in statement analysis and in his work he teaches other professionals and assists law enforcement on criminal cases. When we speak, the process of constructing sentences in our mind involves deciding which tense to use, which words to select from our vocabulary and what order to put them in. This mental process all happens in a fraction of a second. If somebody is constructing sentences from their experiential memory, ie, recalling something real that actually happened to them, the process of word selection follows particular patterns and characteristics, which can be easily identified by a trained statement analyst. If however a person is fabricating and being untruthful when they speak, the natural cognitive process of choosing and ordering words is interrupted, because the mind must censor and insert artificial information in a very short time period. This means the language of somebody who is fabricating is characteristically different and can be picked up by a trained analyst like Peter Hyatt. He has analysed in depth an interview that Kate and Gerry McCann gave in 2011 and throughout the entire interview both Kate and Gerry it appears show signs of deception. Not only that, Peter determines from their language what he believes to be what it is they are concealing. The conclusions are shocking.

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Ewan

25th November 2016, 19:11

Thanks Norman, I have not watched them yet (currently downloading) but am thanking you now in case I lose where I got them from. :)

I've looked at this case over the years and there is a LOT of very suspicious and dubious behaviours in many aspects, not least the big (political) guns that were brought in to assist in investigations.

Enola

25th November 2016, 20:20

I confess I haven't accessed the provided video but I just feel the Madeleine McCann case is just one of countless repeats of the Jon Benet Ramsey case in Colorado; the parents know more than they've stated; ever seen photos of the McCann parents?- do they look "nice"?- no-

I remember her parents were very beautiful, but with a very guilty look about them. I used to think it was because they had been stupid enough to leave her alone. They seemed very remorseful.

araucaria

26th November 2016, 15:28

McCann's Embedded Confessions

Thank you norman for this video of the excellent Richard Hall interviewing Peter Hyatt. This is a hugely important contribution to a hugely important subject that extends way beyond the individual fate of poor little Madeleine McCann. I want to concur with and qualify (expand upon) Hyatt’s final remark to the effect that statement analysis requires serious training and is not to be diluted by incompetent efforts.

The above is of course true: statement analysis is a powerful tool in criminal investigation with, he says, a success rate of close on 100%. As he also says, amateur criminal investigators with a success rate even of 70% are doing an overall disservice by muddying the waters. What they can and should be doing is language analysis of a different kind. Language analysis is something we all do all the time as a crucial component of language communication, namely understanding what anyone is trying to say. Many people didn’t need Hyatt to have a gut feeling that the McCanns were not telling the whole truth, but only someone with his qualifications is in a position to tell them exactly why or ever get the McCanns sent to jail. The quality of our justice system depends on the high quality of its expert witnesses. However, most people most of the time know their place in society is not prosecution; they are simply seeking greater understanding of their everyday situations and to share that understanding; tolerance and restraint are required because mistakes will happen, and they must not be too costly.

I see it like a fractional distillation (http://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-fractional-distillation-definition-process.html) process. A refinery will distill at various different boiling points a range of products, all of which have their separate uses. Only very rarely can two serve the same purpose. For example, you can run a car on oil from a fish and chip shop, but I you wouldn’t dream of doing the opposite. The overall position is that we all need to be moving towards greater refinement in order to operate increasingly sophisticated machinery. I personally am highly trained in textual analysis, i.e. formal training extended by years of self-training through personal research. Textual analysis is an older technique similar to statement analysis, applied chiefly to literary texts, but on this forum I have been applying it to other material as well in the interest of furthering our understanding within the limits of my toolbox. When you study a character in a novel, you analyze his words and actions to work out who he is, which the character himself may not fully understand or wish to reveal, and which the author himself may not fully understand or wish to reveal. Since no one understands everything, there are grey areas everywhere, not necessarily guilty secrets, but guilt is one of the things that cloak themselves in secrecy. Others are misplaced guilty feelings, and entirely innocent feelings such as intimacy between a couple.

Take Proust’s novel In Search of Lost Time. The first time the character Swann makes love to Odette de Crécy, he makes advances by rearranging the cattleyas (flowers) on her corsage. He repeats this foreplay on several subsequent occasions, and eventually arranging the cattleyas becomes synonymous for them with lovemaking even when the practice itself is discontinued. This is a kind of euphemism of the sort we use in a range of situations to hide our embarrassment, prudery, the understatement of intimacy, or alternatively the shame of guilt. It is also a kind of idiolect, the term used by linguists to describe an individual’s idiosyncratic use of a language. This is not the stuff of novels only. Back in my student days, my girlfriend and I spent a weekend before some exams with another couple, who one afternoon went upstairs to their room, purportedly to revise De Saussure’s General Linguistics. When the bed began creaking, the name Saussure took on a whole new secret meaning for the two of us downstairs :)

Here is a real-life situation where it would be highly important to understand when people are using language in this way. Suppose a man regularly tells his wife he is popping out to the library. She may or may not notice the smell of alcohol on his breath when he gets back (from the pub next door to the library). Over time, she may or may not learn to distinguish between the fake husband fond of books and the real husband fond of booze. Or he could be coming home maybe smelling of perfume after spending time with another woman. The point is that ‘the library’ takes on a meaning totally different from the dictionary definition. The wife may or may not connive, or more or less consciously connive, in that lie; she may even make a joke of it. I remember, my mum always used to make the Sunday lunch for 1.30, telling my dad to be sure to be back by then. They both knew he would never be home before 1.45 and the lunch was never overcooked. They both worked to the unexpressed deadline, and my mum would have fun pretending to scold my dad and my dad would pretend to feel guilty. It was just their little game, but an outsider might have taken it at face value.

Peter Hyatt describes how such personal or intimate secrecy can spread to a larger number of individuals. When he explains the mention of the bathroom (toilet, cleaning teeth) as a veiled reference to sexual abuse (as the only place of brief respite), he is describing a case where this idiosyncratic use of language is shared, unknown to each other, by many people in the same situation. There is no need to postulate a conspiracy when victims are alluding to the same stressful circumstances appearing in different contexts. A conspiracy involves perpetrators using the same veiled references to similar abusive circumstances in different contexts: it is in fact a well-known feature of language we call slang or argot. In most cases, there is a very playful element to this colourful sublanguage, which is why it enters the language perfectly innocently; but that was originally mere cloaking for undercover references, say to diamonds (for a robbery) as ice, or words like snow or coke used to allude to illegal drugs in conversations that might be overheard by unwelcome eavesdroppers. This vocabulary actually enters the language as and when it is overheard and understood, which is why slang is so alive, always inventing new fun words or new meanings for existing words to replace slang that is no longer secret code. The point is that language generally also works in this manner: buzzwords and other neologisms no doubt have a particular origin soon forgotten as they rapidly circulate by word of mouth with no conspiracy involved – with the overall result that not everything that appears conspiratorial actually will be. The criminals will be simply mixing in the crowd and one step ahead of trouble.

The above can be applied to the point raised by TODD & NORA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15915-Very-Disturbing-Jay-Weidner-Sacred-Mysteries-video--removed-&p=1116350&viewfull=1#post1116350) with reference to the use of the word ‘pizza’ (I note in passing that they too concur with Hyatt’s request for less amateur dabbling). Yes, most references to pizza will be innocent mentions of having a bite to eat; but, talking theoretically here, if the terminology exists, the likely origin of this choice of phrase will be a reference to one particular pizza restaurant; another protection of this code then being the existence of thousands of other pizza restaurants that have nothing to do with the issue. Hence there are two possible answers to TODD & NORA’s claim: the presumption of innocence may be due to a case of mistaken identity (the wrong restaurant), or it may be a case of the everyday naive reading of a criminal use of language to create endless alibis (going to a restaurant instead of to a brothel, when they are either, or both, depending on the user). This is turn may be totally innocent (as one would naturally expect from a forum member), or it may be setting up the next stage in the neologism race. If people are beginning to cotton on to ‘ice’ on the lips of diamond robbers, another synonym will be found and they may start talking about the polar icecaps to bring the word back into normal usage. Like fugitives making ever briefer stays in a succession of safe houses, a word like ‘pizza’ may by now have a very short shelf life from first being introduced to being withdrawn. Nonetheless, the previous safe house has been raided and evidence found. You still have the clue that people who were, if only for a time, extremely partial to one kind of fast food over all the others are ringing an alarm bell that needs further investigation. The problem with TODD & NORA’s claim then becomes the possible absence of further investigation by the competent authority – there is no such further investigation of the Clinton emails: some of them may indeed be Russian forgeries, but absent such serious investigation, it becomes a hollow election argument merely to state so while providing not a shred of evidence and preventing the FBI from verifying the claim.

Peter Hyatt’s evidence on the McCanns illustrates the dilemma here; he is certain of several things, but with reference to possible sexual abuse, he simply calls for further investigation, because, although clear in its existence, the evidence is ambiguous in its application. It is not clear whether Mrs McCann’s mention of toilet and teeth indicates abuse of her as a child, or abuse of her as an adult, or abuse of Madeleine, in the latter two cases presumably by Mr McCann. And regarding Madeleine’s disappearance, the evidence is also ambiguous from having multiple possible motives: the parents already have several reasons for hiding her accidental death: loss of their twins into care, loss of their reputations through negligence, loss of their livelihoods in medicine for possibly drugging Madeleine with medication, loss of their freedom in the case of a custodial sentence. Any one of these reasons would be sufficient to explain their deduced actions, and so the need to detect sexual abuse somehow fades into the background as being unnecessary and/or far-fetched.

Ambiguity is only one logical feature perceptible in the McCann story without formal training in statement analysis; others being tautology and contradiction. It goes without saying – hence it is tautology for the McCanns to say so – that an abduction requires a lapse of parental attendance. There is a contradiction in admitting to one kind of inadequate parental supervision (absence for dinner) to explain away another (an accident). And the ambiguity lies in the reversibility of the dinner story: it may after all be true, but unfortunately it is fully compatible with the construction of an alibi: they needed to have been absent in order to make an abduction even theoretically possible. As Hyatt points out, to sustain a lie, you need to introduce and divert attention to additional extraneous material. Abductions do happen from time to time, very unfortunately from a law-abiding standpoint, but it can be fortunate for someone looking for some kind of scapegoat. This is how lies and evil breed: the nastiness only gets worse. In this case no abductor has been found (further casting doubt on his existence), but one seems to have been invented, and often enough a culprit will be found who is maybe not innocent overall but totally innocent of that crime or non-crime. So a lesser offence of not preventing accidental death has escalated into another case of paedophilic abduction and likely unlawful killing which may well be a total fiction. In other words – and without prejudging this particular case – the existence of criminality ‘out there’, real or imagined, helps to get people off the hook. Meanwhile, on the level of investigation, which operates in reverse, working back from a crime scene to what happened to produce it, investigating the lesser offence might indeed escalate into a full-blown case of paedophilia much closer to home.

Without prejudging this particular case means: maybe not the McCanns, but very possibly Hillary Clinton (again: further investigation needed). For this is a situation that encapsulates what we are seeing with the Clintons on an altogether larger scale: if a politician has so much dirt coming out, the tendency is simply to vote her out of office and be done with it, because crime is exonerated by more crime; and more fake (non-existent) crime is piled up on real crime. Hence you get a gangster like Al Capone going to jail for tax fraud, and everything else he did never established before a court of law becomes the stuff of legend, in the growing limbo that we call ‘innocent until proven guilty’ and ends in a state of lawlessness whereby proof of guilt never happens and the world is run by fake innocents who also likely connive when falsely accused because it enhances their reputation.

Which brings me back to where I started. Hyatt is right to point out the pitfalls to seeking to raise the quality of our judicial system. It is there to coax people into taking responsibility for their actions at the earliest stage possible because the lies only multiply, crimes become more serious and criminality spreads from the hardcore criminals to society at large. The problems are systemic and we all need to do more to create an atmosphere of truthfulness (honesty) in which the lies cannot prosper.

Jantje

26th November 2016, 16:45

Shannon

26th November 2016, 18:13

Very happy that mr Hyatt has gotten involved with hall. I've been a student of statement analysis for almost 10 years and when I discovered Peter hyatts blog way back i was very pleased with his need to place the importance of children's welfare above all else. He really does care about justice for the little ones who cannot defend themselves. This, to me, is like two worlds colliding. Lol. My PA world and my SA world.

Anyway, I've linked his site here before and always did so with the warning to take what is relevant to your questions or research, because Peter has strong beliefs that I just cannot get behind and do not support. That said he is a fair and thorough analyst who is very good at teaching and showing how he gets to the truth. It's a lot of work to learn SA, but the pay off is great.

Thanks for linking!

norman

26th November 2016, 18:22

There's a new thread just started for this latest statement analysis video in the Madeleine McCann saga, here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94724-Madeleine-McCann-Richard-Hall-update&p=1116573&viewfull=1#post1116573

regnak

26th November 2016, 23:26

The interviews were great :sherlock:

I was informed amused and shocked how she died I always taught she was taken by unknown persons or person.
I have never looked at subject in any detail before .

Great post 10/10 bravo :clapping:

norman

26th November 2016, 23:37

The McCann case is VERY complex. And very dangerous to explore, too. The UK government sent in the hardest hitters it had to cover up and distract and the whole nine yards.

There are even clues and rumors that something very odd was happening there at the resort that week.

Here's another twist to the story. There were some high-flyers in town that week:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94382-Podesta-Brothers-data-links-to-Child-Abduction-Case-of-Madeline-McCann&p=1116612&viewfull=1#post1116612

norman

26th November 2016, 23:48

Maddie McCann O Mistério Gonçalo Amaral - CMTV April 23rd 2016

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English Subtitles

norman

26th November 2016, 23:54

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Dt3aEQy4rKc/TQu3buguNTI/AAAAAAAABus/H1ga4R8p9bw/s400/Priest2.JPG

Listening to an early interview with Janet and Brian Kennedy, Kate McCanns’s aunt and uncle, a helpful priest was mentioned.

The name of the Anglican priest was David…. David? I didn’t remember a David. What I did recall was Father Pacheco, who gave the McCanns the keys to the Church of Nossa Senhora da Luz, most known as the PdL Church, and supposedly left a broken man, weighed down by the burden of Kate’s confession.

Then there was Haynes Hubbard and his wife, who arrived soon after Madeleine's disappearance, befriended the McCanns; to whom they returned the said keys.

I also remembered Paul Seddon, the Catholic priest who married the McCanns; an old golfing pal of Gerry. He was the priest Kate called on the night that Madeleine went missing. They spoke to him on the phone, according to an interview with The Tablet on June 16th, 2007.

It was in this interview the name of Father Pacheco is cleverly linked with Seddon’s name. They talked of him saying the rosary with them a later date; then, the article adds “The Parish Priest also gave the McCanns the keys to the Church so that they could pray there alone in the evenings.”

You see, it doesn’t say it was Father Pacheco, but it certainly implies it was to any reader. Father Pacheco’s statement of Oct 30th. 2007. gives a mixed message: “He (Father Pacheco) gave them the key to the church on the 7th or 8th of May, on the suggestion of John Geraghty, a resident of the parish, so that they could go calmly to church without any pressure. Someone from the Church gave the key to John Geraghty, who then passed it onto the McCanns with Father Pacheco’s permission.”

He does not remember the date upon which the key was returned. However, Father Pacheco later denied that he had made any decision to hand the keys to the McCanns. In an article dated Dec 13th, 2007, by Cecilia Pires, for The Algarve Resident, she writes: “Father Pacheco ensures that “Priest have no power to order anything in our churches. We have an entity for that, which is the Conselho Pastoral, where the catholic community is represented…………….With regards to the key to the Praia da Luz Church that the McCanns were given after Madeleine went missing…..”That was a decision made by the Conselho Pastoral and I only knew about it three days later "”

How many people were members of the Conselho Pastoral and how many were required to make this decision? Could it be that only one person made this decision?

David seems to have been airbrushed from history, often a sign that something interesting lurks.

The Reverend David W Heal was the priest at St Vincent’s; the Anglican name of the same church which was shared with the Catholic congregation.

According to reports in Correio da Manhã, Sep 19th, 2009: “The keys to the Church , which members of the parish decided to lend to the couple a few days after Madeleine’s disappearance…. were returned to the Anglican priest…who befriended the couple". However, Hubbard‘s comment on the returning of the keys was ambiguous “I agree that the parish decided to lend them the church keys” . He didn’t reveal it was to him that the couple returned the keys.”

The McCanns were reported to have handed the keys over without saying goodbye to Father Pacheco, so it certainly wasn’t him they were returned to. Even so, Father Pacheco seems to have been severely chastised by his superiors.

He denied taking confessions from the McCanns in his statement, so perhaps he left feeling used and abused. It’s hard to believe any burden he may have carried came from the unlikely event of confessions, but there may have been other reasons.

From what I know of the Catholic Faith, I’m certain that Kate would not have confessed to Father Pacheco. He would have told her that she could not be forgiven unless she confessed what had happened to the authorities.

Confession would have brought risk, not forgiveness. A few Hail Mary’s or a decade on the rosary would not be enough!

Unless she wanted to compromise him.

Russell O’Brian, in his rogatory interview, refers to David Priest -a comma between the words is required- and explains why David’s number, beginning 914, is on his mobile phone, immediately after that of Robert Murat.

It seems David, therefore, was the most likely person to have sought the agreement of the Conselho Pastoral. Was it also not more likely that the keys had passed between Geraghty and Heal? Fiona Payne and Rachael Mampilly/Oldfield comment on the perceived strangeness of Kate’s desperate need to speak to a priest in the midst of this maelstrom and seek to explain it in a vague manner.

It seems that concerns were expressed that the McCanns had called the media and a priest before they contacted the police. El Pais in Dec 07 “For the police, the most surprising thing was that the first concern of the parents was to alert the press before the police themselves. They were also struck by the fact that Kate asked the Ocean Club reception for the village priest’s telephone number.”

Why would they do that?

The following article in First Magazine (with thanks to Pamalan’s site) throws a very interesting spotlight on the involvement of David Heal: “With every squeeze of her daughter’s Cuddle Cat, anguished mother Kate McCann willed her little daughter home. Priest’s wife, Pam Heal helped Kate and Gerry through the early, terrifying hours of Madeleine’s disappearance…. “Someone’s taken Madeleine, someone’s taken Madeleine” she wailed over and over again, said Pam. Kate kept playing with the toy. She said Madeleine had definitely been taken from them because she would never go anywhere without her favourite toy. The night Madeleine disappeared, Kate and Gerry telephoned the local Anglican priest, Father David Heal, asking him to visit them at their apartment…..When he arrived with his wife, 38 year old Kate threw herself into the priest’s arms as she broke down. It took him 3 hours to comfort Kate.”

There are no statements from the Heals in the available PJ files, in spite of their KEY roles in the early hours of Madeleine’s disappearance.

References to the Heals’ involvement refer to the McCanns contacting them on Friday. The Mail, on Sunday reports “Reverend Heal was called to meet the McCann family on Friday.”

Well, that would be partly true, if the Heals had arrived around 10 p.m. and had remained at the apartment for 3 hours. None of the T9 mentions the Heals’ visit in their interviews and they quickly disappear from the media radar.

Father Heal did continue to conduct services at St Vincent’s, although one report suggests that he may have been leaving the next day.

During a service held later in the week Father Heal’s sermon included the following observations “Whatever happens today, whatever happens tomorrow, whatever happens in the days ahead, after this week, life will never be the same again……. We have all been changed and we have all been changed forever.” (Mail on Sunday)

Thanks to The Maddie Case File for newspaper archives. References refer to key and keys. I don’t know if there was more than one.

https://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/holy-trinity.html

regnak

26th November 2016, 23:57

Complex yes I now unsure who killed her was it her parents in a accident that she was alone in apartment when or
If she was taken and why would a kidnapper or rapist or ? Take only One child instead of 3 has always seemed strange

The interviews above were great though but to be fair you also give reasonable suspects so I'm on the fence you need some better informed than me to decide :beer:

Jantje

27th November 2016, 08:39

I'm not buying the whole abduction story. I think she died in the apartment.

Matthew

27th November 2016, 09:21

In light of this update here is a report linking Sir Clement Freud to the McCann case published 15 June 2016 by The Telegraph. What ever the McCanns involvement Freuds involvement links back to the establishment.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/sir-clement-freud-exposed-as-a-paedophile-as-police-urged-to-pro/

POST UPDATE
Text from the link:

Sir Clement Freud exposed as a paedophile as police urged to probe Madeleine McCann links

Sir Clement Freud, the former broadcaster and politician, was exposed on Tuesday night as a paedophile who sexually abused girls as young as 10 for decades.

Freud, who died in 2009, spent years abusing a girl who he brought up as a daughter, and violently raped a teenager while he was an MP.

...

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been alerted to the fact that Freud had a villa in Praia da Luz, Portugal, the resort where the three-year-old went missing in 2007.

He befriended the McCanns in the weeks after their daughter went missing, entertaining them at his house on two occasions and keeping in contact by phone and email.

...

Sunny-side-up

27th November 2016, 14:48

Thank for posting these vids, will watch through them when feeling strong enough.

One thing I vaguely remember early in this Tragedy/fiasco was something Mrs McCann said

“oh my god they've got her” or "they got her, they got her" (words like that) ?

That struck me in the face as meaning, they knew that someone was after her and or knew who had here, as if they had already tried to tell someone NO.

I did hear that in an early statement but only once?

Cardillac

27th November 2016, 20:04

norman

28th November 2016, 01:43

@Jantje

"'m not buying the whole abduction story. I think she died in the apartment"

well, any ideas HOW she died in the appt.?-

please give us your viewpoint; so IF she died in the appt., HOW?

please explain and give us your reasoning processes behind this-

I came to the conclusion a long time ago: the more preposterous, outlandish, crazy, horrific a a concept initially appears to be the more truth there probably is behind it;

welcome to the real world-

be well all-

Larry

Having watched all of Richard D Hall's videos on the case, I can tell you that the girl cannot absolutely be accounted for as alive and well from Tuesday of that week onwards. It's almost certain she was signed in to the creche fraudulently for most of the week.

My current best guess is that she died between Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning. That's 4 days before the alarm was raised.

Shannon

28th November 2016, 02:43

mgray

28th November 2016, 03:17

The gentleman in the video in the OP spoke in absolutes in an attempt to make it sound scientific. It is not, but like an economist, if you develop enough corollaries and theorems you sound scientific and in his words "put food on the table" for his family.

What happen is anyone's guess given that the Portuguese police did not charge them.

My one question with the other couples there, what was their testimony?

A Voice from the Mountains

28th November 2016, 04:34

So according to the analysis in the above videos, Madeleine died in the apartment, the parents were involved, and they subsequently hid her body. She may have been drugged and may have experienced excruciating pain.

What about the Podestas? What would they want with a child who is already deceased, if there are actually involved in this as the police sketches strongly suggest?

Well I'll leave you with these images. The first of John Podesta and some artwork they keep at the Podesta home, and the second of their Satanic friend Marina Abramovic.

http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/podesta-cannibal-art800.jpg

http://tothedeathmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sc3-1.jpg

Notice Lady Gaga in the above photo as well.

I don't pretend to understand these people or why they do this stuff. I'm just observing their apparent interests, "hidden" in plain sight.

Ewan

28th November 2016, 10:38

Jantje

28th November 2016, 10:43

@Jantje

"'m not buying the whole abduction story. I think she died in the apartment"

well, any ideas HOW she died in the appt.?-

please give us your viewpoint; so IF she died in the appt., HOW?

please explain and give us your reasoning processes behind this-

I came to the conclusion a long time ago: the more preposterous, outlandish, crazy, horrific a a concept initially appears to be the more truth there probably is behind it;

welcome to the real world-

be well all-

Larry

Hi Larry,
I think the theory that Peter Hyatt came up with is very much plausible. The McCanns gave Madeleine something that should have put her to sleep, so they could go out and have dinner wihout being interrupted. Madeleine somehow had an unfortunate accident that killed her. The parents covered it up out of fear that either :
a. The other children would be taken away from the McCanns or
b. The police might find out that Madeleine was abused. which would have consequences as well.

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to understand that the McCanns are hiding something

Flash

28th November 2016, 11:09

Norman, one wrong assumption beliow: you think the catholic priest would have told the McCann they would not be forgiven unless they told the authorities what truly happened (presumably murder).

In the catholic faith, a priest can give forgiveness in the name of God although they will usually refer to the grace of God himself without giving forgiveness if the sin is major, such as murder.

They may incite the person to report to authorities but would probably never make it conditional to God forgiveness since God clemency and authorities work are unrelated in a catholic mind frame.

Furthermore, a priest is tight with the secrecy of confession, like a lawyer would be for its clients. However, in North America, this secrecy vow and commitment may be overturned by a judge (but rarely is). I doubt very much that in a profoundly carholic country, like Portugal or Spain, i doubt that a judge could or would ever ask a priest to brake his confession secrecy vows.

Now, it is also quite plausible that those taking care of the church (priest or others) gave a key for those in pain to prey quietly and alone. This is not unusual at all, all in good faith.

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Listening to an early interview with Janet and Brian Kennedy, Kate McCanns’s aunt and uncle, a helpful priest was mentioned.

The name of the Anglican priest was David…. David? I didn’t remember a David. What I did recall was Father Pacheco, who gave the McCanns the keys to the Church of Nossa Senhora da Luz, most known as the PdL Church, and supposedly left a broken man, weighed down by the burden of Kate’s confession.

Then there was Haynes Hubbard and his wife, who arrived soon after Madeleine's disappearance, befriended the McCanns; to whom they returned the said keys.

I also remembered Paul Seddon, the Catholic priest who married the McCanns; an old golfing pal of Gerry. He was the priest Kate called on the night that Madeleine went missing. They spoke to him on the phone, according to an interview with The Tablet on June 16th, 2007.

It was in this interview the name of Father Pacheco is cleverly linked with Seddon’s name. They talked of him saying the rosary with them a later date; then, the article adds “The Parish Priest also gave the McCanns the keys to the Church so that they could pray there alone in the evenings.”

You see, it doesn’t say it was Father Pacheco, but it certainly implies it was to any reader. Father Pacheco’s statement of Oct 30th. 2007. gives a mixed message: “He (Father Pacheco) gave them the key to the church on the 7th or 8th of May, on the suggestion of John Geraghty, a resident of the parish, so that they could go calmly to church without any pressure. Someone from the Church gave the key to John Geraghty, who then passed it onto the McCanns with Father Pacheco’s permission.”

He does not remember the date upon which the key was returned. However, Father Pacheco later denied that he had made any decision to hand the keys to the McCanns. In an article dated Dec 13th, 2007, by Cecilia Pires, for The Algarve Resident, she writes: “Father Pacheco ensures that “Priest have no power to order anything in our churches. We have an entity for that, which is the Conselho Pastoral, where the catholic community is represented…………….With regards to the key to the Praia da Luz Church that the McCanns were given after Madeleine went missing…..”That was a decision made by the Conselho Pastoral and I only knew about it three days later "”

How many people were members of the Conselho Pastoral and how many were required to make this decision? Could it be that only one person made this decision?

David seems to have been airbrushed from history, often a sign that something interesting lurks.

The Reverend David W Heal was the priest at St Vincent’s; the Anglican name of the same church which was shared with the Catholic congregation.

According to reports in Correio da Manhã, Sep 19th, 2009: “The keys to the Church , which members of the parish decided to lend to the couple a few days after Madeleine’s disappearance…. were returned to the Anglican priest…who befriended the couple". However, Hubbard‘s comment on the returning of the keys was ambiguous “I agree that the parish decided to lend them the church keys” . He didn’t reveal it was to him that the couple returned the keys.”

The McCanns were reported to have handed the keys over without saying goodbye to Father Pacheco, so it certainly wasn’t him they were returned to. Even so, Father Pacheco seems to have been severely chastised by his superiors.

He denied taking confessions from the McCanns in his statement, so perhaps he left feeling used and abused. It’s hard to believe any burden he may have carried came from the unlikely event of confessions, but there may have been other reasons.

From what I know of the Catholic Faith, I’m certain that Kate would not have confessed to Father Pacheco. He would have told her that she could not be forgiven unless she confessed what had happened to the authorities.

Confession would have brought risk, not forgiveness. A few Hail Mary’s or a decade on the rosary would not be enough!

Unless she wanted to compromise him.

Russell O’Brian, in his rogatory interview, refers to David Priest -a comma between the words is required- and explains why David’s number, beginning 914, is on his mobile phone, immediately after that of Robert Murat.

It seems David, therefore, was the most likely person to have sought the agreement of the Conselho Pastoral. Was it also not more likely that the keys had passed between Geraghty and Heal? Fiona Payne and Rachael Mampilly/Oldfield comment on the perceived strangeness of Kate’s desperate need to speak to a priest in the midst of this maelstrom and seek to explain it in a vague manner.

It seems that concerns were expressed that the McCanns had called the media and a priest before they contacted the police. El Pais in Dec 07 “For the police, the most surprising thing was that the first concern of the parents was to alert the press before the police themselves. They were also struck by the fact that Kate asked the Ocean Club reception for the village priest’s telephone number.”

Why would they do that?

The following article in First Magazine (with thanks to Pamalan’s site) throws a very interesting spotlight on the involvement of David Heal: “With every squeeze of her daughter’s Cuddle Cat, anguished mother Kate McCann willed her little daughter home. Priest’s wife, Pam Heal helped Kate and Gerry through the early, terrifying hours of Madeleine’s disappearance…. “Someone’s taken Madeleine, someone’s taken Madeleine” she wailed over and over again, said Pam. Kate kept playing with the toy. She said Madeleine had definitely been taken from them because she would never go anywhere without her favourite toy. The night Madeleine disappeared, Kate and Gerry telephoned the local Anglican priest, Father David Heal, asking him to visit them at their apartment…..When he arrived with his wife, 38 year old Kate threw herself into the priest’s arms as she broke down. It took him 3 hours to comfort Kate.”

There are no statements from the Heals in the available PJ files, in spite of their KEY roles in the early hours of Madeleine’s disappearance.

References to the Heals’ involvement refer to the McCanns contacting them on Friday. The Mail, on Sunday reports “Reverend Heal was called to meet the McCann family on Friday.”

Well, that would be partly true, if the Heals had arrived around 10 p.m. and had remained at the apartment for 3 hours. None of the T9 mentions the Heals’ visit in their interviews and they quickly disappear from the media radar.

Father Heal did continue to conduct services at St Vincent’s, although one report suggests that he may have been leaving the next day.

During a service held later in the week Father Heal’s sermon included the following observations “Whatever happens today, whatever happens tomorrow, whatever happens in the days ahead, after this week, life will never be the same again……. We have all been changed and we have all been changed forever.” (Mail on Sunday)

Thanks to The Maddie Case File for newspaper archives. References refer to key and keys. I don’t know if there was more than one.

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norman

28th November 2016, 13:54

An accidental death in the aprtment, needing to be covered up, does not bring a Tony Blair spin doctor, Clarence Mitchell, flying out to take control of the situation. The very same guy who was one of the first on the scene of Jill Dando's murder.

http://www.whale.to/c/tony_blair6.html

This is the elephant in the room that people seem to be blind to.

In my estimation, this was not a normal group of holiday makers having a break in the sun with their kids. Something very odd was going on there all week.

If the Podestas really were the guys in the police sketches, they were probably just the fixers at the end of a crisis meeting to decide how to deal with something that had gone badly wrong.

I've been searching for photos of the other children with that group but the web seems to have been swept of them. I once saw a photo of another girl in that group who looked very similar to maddy, I mean creepily so. Are we looking at some kind of genetic/cloning conference/evaluation meeting where something was done early in the week that ended up with the fatality they then had to deal with?

Something very special was going on, hence the activation of the UKs heavy hitters. I mean VERY. Think of it as being on the same level as the possibility that the royal babies were not produced by normal means and the mother was never actually pregnant, kind of special.

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Perhaps Kate McCann had a wobble and went off script. Perhaps reporting a missing child was her idea at the last moment because she was scared and confused. THAT would certainly have got the big boys in a panic.

Jantje

28th November 2016, 13:59

norman

28th November 2016, 14:06

Jantje

28th November 2016, 14:35

Well he is definitely on the McCann's side and he seems to tell lies a lot. Question remains why? and also why him of all people ?
There has to be a reason for it.
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Iloveyou

28th November 2016, 18:30

What I've found very disconcerting from the beginning, was the type of pictures that were released. The major part of them does not show a healthy, lively and happy kid expressing herself naturally, imo. I see widened eyes, a stiff look, an artificial exerted grin, grimaces (the programmed happy-lucky face?)

The second picture in particular - which circulated in the media so extensively that it has become something like an icon for the Maddie McCann-case - reminds me in an alarming way more of a puppet, a (sex)-toy than of some parents beloved little child. It always made me think: there's a kid yelling for help, without a sound. I'd be more than relieved if I were wrong.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/05/04/97019832_Madeleine-McCann-NEWS-thumbnail_trans++qVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg

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Then there are the strange pictures of the girl in the following video (produced by Madeleine’s godfather, Jon Corner, and released on 1 May 2010) at 1:11, 1:14 and 1:20.

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Mark William-Thomas, British investigative journalist, commented on the pictures in an article in The Independent:
(quoted here: http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t12958-the-mystery-of-the-make-up-photo-was-it-taken-on-the-same-day-as-the-last-photo)

“In my view, which is of course completely out of step with the mainstream thinking on these issues, a child wearing make-up, or adult clothes certainly does not in itself constitute a pornographic or inappropriate image. However, if a fully clothed child standing in a street can be considered material of interest for a paedophile, then photographs of this nature should certainly fall within the same category. I am male, and like practically every other male that I have socialised with since from the age of about 6, to a greater or lesser we have all been exposed to pornography. I'm not great fan of pornography, nor have I been exposed to a great deal, but I could certainly give you a pretty good description of the stereotypical images that the producers of this product tend to use. It's a definite genre, with a definite style, camera angles, lighting, model poses etc.

I know what picture of a child playing looks like, my parents have albums of pictures of my sister as a child playing with make-up, dressing up. I also understand when I'm seeing the deliberate sexualisation of a child. I also know which end of that spectrum that those images lie.

I've previously critisised people for expressing these sorts of views, but when you see the three Madeleine pictures in that video in close succession you start asking: what's the probability that this is just some sort of accidental pose? I really don't like the answer.

I'm not a photographer, nor a film maker, nor actively involved in the media, and so if I can pick up on these references, then Jon Corner [who produced the latest Madeleine video] most certainly can”.

[bold highlighting by me, Ily]

Matthew

28th November 2016, 18:52

Such a mystery. I found the update in this thread very useful. We don't have all the dots in one place yet. Focusing on evidence of McCann deception is one of many threads to pull. And if you will forgive me mixed-metaphors I'm going to do just that ...pull in a post from another thread here :

The Sir Clement Freud connection comes into focus when reading normans post (and thread) here (link to pertinent post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94382-Podesta-Brothers-data-links-to-Child-Abduction-Case-of-Madeline-McCann&p=1116612&viewfull=1#post1116612))

Here is an extract:

Madeleine McCann
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One of our FBI insiders can confirmed the Intelligence community indicates John and Tony Podesta were in Praia da Luz, Portugal on May 3rd 2007– the day Madaline McCann vanished.

The Podesta brothers were staying with a friend named “Clem” . Clement Freud, the grandson of psychopathology sex expert Dr. Sigmund Freud, who was known to be a pedophile. This is a quote from our insider: [B]“Of greater interest is that fact that Freud owned a villa in Praia da Luz.”

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happyuk

28th November 2016, 22:21

This is a very important update in the investigation of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann imo.
Richard Hall meets Peter Hyatt, who is an expert in statement analysis and take a look at the embedded confessions of the McCanns. reccomended for people that follow this ongoing investigation

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Wow. This guy Hyatt is a sharp cookie. His expositions on how we deceive have given me a new-found appreciation for this subject area. I had no idea this was such a huge area of expertise.

Cardillac

29th November 2016, 19:54

@Jantje

yes, I agree with you totally- the McCanns are hiding something- something huge-

stay well-

Larry

Cidersomerset

29th November 2016, 20:09

They discuss the topic and the innuendo and possible hidden meanings
and much more .....They also touch on the possible Podesta/McCann speculation.

Monarch Survivor Jay Parker On #Pizzagate, Podesta Emails & Washington Paedophile Rings

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Published on 24 Nov 2016
Please Support The Show – www.paypal.me/richieallen

Clarity

30th November 2016, 00:16

Thanks for posting, I think I'll be looking into Statement Analysis some more - a very useful tool.

I'd like to see an analysis done on Dr David Payne's statement, in fact all of the Tapas 7 but his in particular stood out to me as being odd. When describing the last time he saw Madeleine & her siblings he stated that they looked like angels, were wearing white & appeared to be at peace or peaceful. I personally would not use the word peaceful to describe a group of young children. A more normal description would be something like they were playing nicely together, they were watching TV quietly etc.
When he says she looked like an Angel and was at peace it sounds more like he is describing a dead child.

happyuk

30th November 2016, 22:19

The work done by Hyatt's interviewer Richard Hall in particular convinces me that none of the popular media is for information gathering. None of it.

It is all fantasy and perception management.

Shannon

3rd December 2016, 22:18

Peter is having a live q&a this evening at 5pm est.

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2016/12/live-discussion-madeleine-mccann.html?m=1

Shannon

3rd December 2016, 22:25

Spellbound

3rd December 2016, 23:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JebImnPFcuI

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Jantje

4th December 2016, 10:35

If anyone is interested in all the investigations, as well as all the little ins and outs of the Madeline McCann case, besides Peter Hyatt and his statement analysis blog, I would check out the daily profiler, Pat Browns blog.

Like Hyatt, i just straight up cannot put up with certain biases she (brown) holds (which of course she says she doesn't have any bias, like everyone who does lol) so with that, you'll have to pick and choose what's relevant. She did a lot of research and Investigating the McCanns, even going to Portugal.... Reenacting the whole evening Maddie disappeared. She also was sued by the McCanns.

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-end-is-near-in-madeleine-mccann-case.html?m=1

Most recent McCann entry

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2016/08/us-publishers-still-afraid-to-publish.html?m=1

Thanks for posting Shannon. Very interesting. Have to check that out sometime.
I did miss the live event so if anybody knows of a transcript or recording, that would be great.

Spellbound's post on the McCann's body language show more proof of how deceiving the McCann's really are.
Something really fishy about this case. The question remains why they are being protected by the media and establishment.

Jantje

6th December 2016, 13:07

Found two youtube files of Peter Hyatt on the McCann case. Probably the live q&a event mentioned by Shannon.
There is one with images that is 36 mins and another one with a still picture that lasts over 2 and half hours.

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norman

16th April 2017, 17:13

Know The Truth-Madeleine: Why The Cover Up-Richard D Hall-Part 1

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Published on Apr 7, 2017

Part 2

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sheme

19th April 2017, 17:25

from Mr shrimpton.

GCHQ, MI5, MI6 and DIS all have relevant files on the McCann kidnap and murder. The Pentagon and CIA files will also be available under the UKUSA arrangements. The current Metropolitan Police inquiry is a farce with respect and arguably a cruel hoax upon the poor parents, who have been systematically and cruelly misled by the police, who are partly responsible for their daughter’s murder. The Cabinet Office and intelligence services are perfectly well aware that the poor girl was murdered in or around December 2008, and that her photograph was sent via e-mail to Jose Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commission, who selected her for kidnap and sexual abuse. GCHQ have a copy of the e-mail, with Madeleine’s photograph annexed as a JPEG file, which was intercepted by the NSA at the e-maul switching centre at RAF Minwith Hill, Yorkshire. It should of course be disclosed. The Prime Minister of the day, Tony Blair, was probably aware that she had been located to a high degree of probability on board the MV Naomi Corlett in Moroccan territorial waters. The rescue mission proposed by Gerard Group International LLC, on whose Advisory Board the Defendant then sat, was blocked, it would seem for political reasons, as the UK Government was fearful of the damage which would be done to Anglo-European relations by the exposure of the President of the European Commission as an active paedophile, and moreover one who was being blackmailed by the most powerful German intelligence agency (the DVD), who were supplying him with kidnapped toddlers to abuse, in order to satiate his perverted sexual desires. Leicestershire Police are suppressing inter alia an e-mail to them from the Cabinet Office, annexing a chain e-mail from the Foreign Office, complaining about the Defendant’s level of access to IMINT and Communications Intelligence/Intercept (COMINT) material. The Defendant respectfully asserts this is being done for fear of the credibility it would give the Defendant.

happyuk

19th April 2017, 20:26

Following Richard D Hall's excellent latest speaking tour, of which I had the pleasure of attending at Merthyr Tydfil rugby club (http://www.richplanet.net/events.php), some more information that really needs disseminating to the public as far as possible:

"Greetings,

Thank you to everyone who attended the recent Richplanet UK tour. I will be producing a tour DVD soon.

I have released the latest Madeleine film "MADELEINE : WHY THE COVER UP", onto youtube ...

PART 1 (IN 3 PARTS)
http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=236&part=1

PART 2 (IN 3 PARTS)
http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=237&part=1

PLEASE NOTE : The films in these links are made in 1280x720, ie high definition. All the other versions currently online are in lower (720x576) SD.

You can download the HD film and the DVD versions from this website,

http://www.madeleinefilms.net

PLEASE DOWNLOAD AND RE-POST THESE FILMS AS YOU WISH. PLEASE ALSO FORWARD LINKS TO THE FILMS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. MORE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS DISGRACEFUL COVER UP.

I will be embarking on new online TV shows in June 2017.

Thankyou,
Richard D. Hall"

annunaki1

24th April 2017, 21:21

i think we all instictively know when someone is telling lies & as soon as this story broke it seemed obvious to me that something wasnt quite right with the Mcanns story.the likeness between the photo fits of the alleged abductors and the Podesta brothers is uncanny and the fact that they were in the area at the time must hold some relevance to this case.i didnt realise at the time but after watching these videos it seems obvious to me that the Mcanns must of known the Podestas and also must of been involved insome sort of child abuse ring involving the Podestas,that is why the mother repeatedly said "they have took her" when she was trying to deflect the investigation and the blame towards people who she knew but thought nobody would connect to the case.after watching these videos i cannot help but agree with statement analyst that there was an accident in the apartment and that Madeline is in fact dead,but it also seems obvious that she had suffered sexual abuse,possibly at the hands of her parents and the Podestas,perhaps she was given medication to make her drowsy so she could be abused but was given too much and that is when she had the fatal fall? there are a lot of questions that need answering but there also seems to have been a lot of things covered up by the british government which also makes me believe there must of been some connection to a high profile child sex ring so we will probably never get to the bottom of this case.i hope for Madelines sake that we do and i also hope that the poor child rests in peace after the horrors that she must of endured.

Star Tsar

17th July 2019, 05:54

RichPlanet.net

Gambling With Peadophiles

Published 16th July 2019

Why did the UK government & All of it's various tentacles help to cover up the Madeleine McCann case? In this episode Richard presents a new hypothesis.

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Billy

3rd June 2020, 18:40

Madeleine McCann detectives reveal German prisoner now prime suspect over toddler's disappearance

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/madeleine-mccann-german-suspect-revealed-a4459151.html

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A German prisoner was tonight dramatically identified as the potential killer of Madeleine McCann as Scotland Yard revealed he has become the main suspect over the toddler’s disappearance.

Detectives leading the search for Madeleine said that the 43-year-old man – who has not been identified – was in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz on the night the then three-year-old vanished.

They added that he completed a 30-minute phone call only shortly before she went missing on May 3, 2007 and had re-registered his 1993 Jaguar XJR6 car the following day.

Photos of the vehicle and a distinctive early 1980s BMW camper van that the man was also using at the time have been issued by police in an attempt to uncover more information about his movements before and after Madeleine vanished.

Both vehicles have been seized by police in Germany, where he is in prison on what police would only say was an “unrelated matter”. German police are expected to give further details of the man criminal history later.

Police – who tonight insisted that “someone must know more” about the German’s activities at the time – are also appealing for information about the number he was called on and the mobile number he was using.

Both numbers – (+351) 912 730 680 and (+351) 916 510 683 – were tonight made public in a rare step by police to prompt tip offs from anyone who might have known or called the man.

He is a German national and was described as white with short blond hair, possibly fair, and about 6ft tall with a slim build.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stuart Cundy said that the investigation into him had been triggered by information received following a 2017 appeal in this country and that a joint investigation had later begun with German police.

The new appeal was welcomed by Madeleine’s parents, Gerry and Kate, who said: “We would like to thank the police forces involved for their continued efforts in the search for Madeleine.

Read more here.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/madeleine-mccann-german-suspect-revealed-a4459151.html

ExomatrixTV

4th June 2020, 22:14

Madeleine McCann And JonBenét Ramsey - Sonia Poulton:
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Police open criminal case against German man over Maddie McCann disappearance:
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ExomatrixTV

4th June 2020, 23:27

The McCann's: Embedded Confessions - Statement Analyst Peter Hyatt.

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scotslad

5th June 2020, 08:01

This will get you thinking, asking your own questions and wondering what REALLY happened....

1) There isn't any evidence at all in the police files that suggest Madeleine McCann was abducted.
2) The current Efits in the McCann case came from the Smith Family, that identified Gerry as the man they saw carrying a child fitting Madeleine's description towards the beach, on the night of her disappearance.
3) British police dogs Eddie and Keela alerted 12 times in the McCann's apartment, hire car, Kate McCann's trousers, a child's top and cuddle cat.
4) Blood was found under the tiles in the McCann's apartment, on the keys to the hire car and DNA belonging to Madeleine in the boot of the hire car. The car was hired 24 days after Madeleine was reported missing.
5) Gerry and Kate both have an empty CATS file .
6) Kate didn't physically search for Madeleine.
7) The Efits that appeared on October's Crime Watch were withheld for over a year.
8) Kate refused a lie detector.
9) A member of the tapas 9, David Payne has been accused of being a paedophile. (See Gasper statements)
10) Yvonne Martin, a child protection worker recognised David Payne and believed it could have been through her job. She came to advise the McCann's but was quickly moved on by David.
11) On the documentary 'the McCann's and the conman' the private investigators had claimed Jane Tanner was lying about seeing an abductor.
12) Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions in a police interview which could have helped find her missing daughter.
13) Kate and Gerry used the fund to make payments on their mortgage.
14) Kate and Gerry had deleted all of their phone records.
15) On 1st May, 2 days before Madeleine was reported missing the McCann's upstairs neighbour Mrs Fenn had heard Madeleine crying hysterically for an hour and fifteen minutes.
16) The McCanns had lied about the shutters being smashed/Jemmied/broken, when they were checked they were perfectly in tact.
17) The McCann's were never cleared, they were suspects in the Portuguese investigation but the case was archived which meant the PJ were forced to lift their arguido status.
18) 4th May 2007 less than 24 hours after Madeleine was reported missing the UK Government's spin machine, Clarence Mitchell, was assigned to the McCann's to control what was said in the media.
19) 2 days after the McCann's were made arguidos (suspects) they flew back to the UK despite their claims that they wouldn't leave without their missing daughter.
20) Gordon Brown put pressure on the Portuguese judiciary to release a description of Tanner Man.
21) It took 45 minutes for the Portuguese police to be informed of Madeleine's disappearance.
22) In an interview, when Gerry McCann was accused of killing his child he responded with 'find the body and prove we killed her.
23) Kate McCann claimed that the abductor had moved cuddle cat which could have had the intruders print on it that could have helped the police in their searches but Kate McCann chose to wash it and carry it around with her.
24) Kate and Gerry were the first to suggest Madeleine had been killed, before this had been suggested the Portuguese Portuguese police were looking for an alive child.
25) Just two weeks after Madeleine disappeared Kate and Gerry had made Madeleine a Ward of Court.
26) The McCann's and their friends refused to do a reconstruction that would explain discrepancies in their statements.
27) The Portuguese police had advised the McCann's to not mention Madeleine's eye defect as they feared it would push the abductors to damage her eye. The McCann's ignored the advise as it was (in Gerry's own words) 'a good marketing ploy'.
28) 4th May 2007 when the police took pictures of the apartment there was Madeleine's pink blanket and Gerry's blue sports bag. Both had disappeared from the apartment.
29) The McCann's had hired 3 Carter Ruck lawyers very early on, one of which specialised in extradition.
30) The Tapas 9's statements all contradict each others.
31) There was no visible DNA found in the apartment that was available to run a match to Madeleine, the McCann's claimed all the children had shared a tooth brush which meant Gerry had to return back to the UK to retrieve Madeleine's pillowcase.
32) The McCann's Find Madeleine Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited isn't registered with the Charity Commission.
34) Kate and Gerry have spent more money out of the fund suing people than they have on the search for Madeleine.
35) Every night but 3rd May, one of the tapas members would stay at home, apparently sick with a mysterious virus.
36) The McCann's tried to get the Chief Inspector's book banned that was based on the official police files, the judge overturned that decision and the book has now been returned to the shelves.
37) Gerry McCann was spotted laughing days after Madeleine had been reported missing.
38) In Kate McCann's book - madeleine. Kate speaks in a very inappropriate and disturbing way about her daughters 'perfect genitals being torn apart'.
39) Kate and Gerry have never followed up any sightings of their missing daughter.
40) On Madeleine's 4th birthday, a few days after she was reported missing Kate and Gerry were recorded laughing hysterically as they were leaving the church.
41) A few days after Madeleine had disappeared Father Pacheco gave the McCann's keys to his church, 7 months later he told friends that he had been deceived, he claimed the McCann's had done nothing but cause him problems and they have ruined him. He removed all traces of Madeleine from his church. Investigators were convinced Kate had confessed to him but he insisted he would stand by his priestly vow.
42) Gerry McCann claimed to have felt something wasn't right when he did his check, he said he felt someone may have been in the room whilst he was in the apartment but didn't check to see.
43) On Gerry McCann's second trip back to the UK just minutes after arriving in London, he apparently had his wallet stolen which meant he needed to block all his credit and debit cards. The thief managed to avoid all CCTV. Gerry used his blog to report the return of his wallet, minus the Sterling but with his driving licence, credit cards and €30 in cash still inside. He blogs that there were also 'one or two other important things'.
44) Philomena McCann claimed in an interview that Kate and Gerry haven't told the twins where Madeleine is but quickly back tracked and said 'not that they know where she is'.
45) The McCann's took a trip to Huelva they set off at 9am for the 130-mile trip to Huelva. The journey normally takes two hours but the McCanns did not arrive in the city until 12.15pm.
46) Kate McCann claimed Madeleine was a difficult child that she found hard to control, she said she would cry for attention for up to 18 hours a day and would be giving the abductor her tuppence worth.
47) Kate and Gerry didn't give the Portuguese police Madeleine's medical record when it had been requested.
48) Crucial files relating to Madeleine McCann’s disappearance are being kept secret by Theresa May and her team to avoid a diplomatic war with Portugal.
49) The Portuguese police were very concerned the intruder had sedated Sean and Amelie the night Madeleine disappeared but it wasn't until 144 days after, the McCann's had them tested.
50) Martin Brunt reported live on Sky News that the DNA found in the boot of the hire car was a 100% match to Madeleine, then a few days later reports changed to 15/19 markers matching to Madeleine's DNA

Now lets get a little deeper...

1. Did they use the babysitting service provided? NO
2. Did they use any listening devices? NO
3. Did they leave three children under 4 alone while going out drinking? YES
4. Did they do this every night? YES
5. Did they,under British law,endanger Maddie? YES
6. In the UK is significant harm a form of child abuse? YES
7. Is significant harm used by the UK courts in child abuse cases? YES
8. Does leaving the children as they did qualify under these rules ? YES
9. Did Kate sit writing timelines instead of searching for Maddie? YES
10. Are the frequent checks by the Tapas group challenged by other witnesses? YES
11. Was the bedroom within sight of where they sat? NO
12, Were they within earshot? NO
13. Did anyone other than Tanner see any abductor? NO
14. Has anyone come up with a credible abductor? NO
15. Is there any evidence of an abduction? NO
16. Were the shutters in the room tampered with? NO
17. Did Kate say the shutters were tampered with? YES
18. Did Kate change her story to saying the door was unlocked? YES
19. Was the door unlocked on any other night? NO
20. Is there any physical evidence at all of a break in? NO
21. Is there any physical evidence of another party being in the room? NO
23. Were the McCann's told not to inform the media? YES
24. Were they told it might harm the chances of finding Maddie alive? YES
25. Were the media informed by a McCann family member? YES
26. Were specially trained British dogs brought in to search the apartment ? YES
27. Did they find anything? YES
28. Have these dogs been successful in over 200 cases? YES
29. Do sniffer dogs lie? NO
30. Do the specially trained dogs get confused by other smells? NO
31. Did they find cadaver(dead body) scent in the apartment? YES
32. Did they find blood? YES
33. Did they find cadaver scent behind the sofa? YES
34. On the child's toy? YES
35. In a cupboard in the room? YES
36. Did they find cadaver scent on Kate's clothes? YES
37. Did someone try to explain this by saying she had examined dead bodies before holiday? YES
38. Is there any record of her doing so? NO
39. Has anyone come forward to say they saw her doing so? NO
40. Was the hire car rented after Maddie disappeared ? YES
41. Were tests done on DNA found in the car? YES
42. Did the dogs alert to the hire car? YES
43. Is a billion to one odds that it may be someone else's DNA? YES
44. Were the doors and boot left open to get rid of the smell in the car? YES
45. Did the parents explain it away as rotting meat? YES
46. Smelling due to taking rubbish to the tip in the hire car? YES
47. Smelling due to dirty nappies in the hire car? YES
48. Smell due to sea bass in the hire car? YES
49. Did the parents say the dogs were wrong? YES
50. Do you need tons of excuses if the dogs are just plain wrong? NO
51. Have the dogs ever been wrong? NO
52. Did Kate & Gerry flee Portugal? YES
53. Did they hire extradition lawyers? YES
54. Did the McCann's hire libel lawyers to gag anyone with a different view? YES
55. Did the government lend spin doctor Clarence Mitchell to the parents? YES
56. Dio spin doctors twist the truth for a favourable outcome? YES
57. Are they paid to do this? YES
58. Did the McCann's set up a fund in order to search for Maddie? YES
59. Did they use the money donated for anything other than searching? YES
60. Do the parents have a media monitoring unit? YES
61. Are there internet trolls helping the parents to quash getting at the truth? YES
62. Have the Portuguese police been portrayed as incompetent? YES
63. Did they look at all aspects of the case? YES
64. Did they conclude any abduction took place? NO
65. Did they conclude that Maddie was dead and the parents responsible? YES
66. Are there two British investigations into Maddie being missing? YES
67. Are they investigating ALL aspects of the case? NO (Amended UNCLEAR)
68. Have they been told by the government to focus on abduction only? YES (Amended UNCLEAR)
69. Have they come up with any evidence of an abduction? NO (Amended UNCLEAR)
70. Have they come up with any credible suspects? NO Amended (UNCLEAR)
71. Have they questioned the tapas group or parents over the case? NO (Amended UNCLEAR)
72. Have the parents made millions from Maddie being missing? YES
73. Did Kate write a book that the twins might read mention torn genitalia ? YES
74. Did Gerry have his wallet stolen at Waterloo station as he claimed? NO
75. Does the CCTV footage from that day bear out his claims? NO
76. Did the Portuguese police ask British government for medical records? YES
77. Were they handed over? NO
78. Did they ask for bank statements? YES
79. Were they handed over ? NO
80. Did they ask for mobile phone records? YES
81. Were they handed over? NO
82. Have the media printed the McCann version of events? YES
83. Are the media intimidated by threats of libel? YES
84. Have the parents admitted they are responsible for Maddie's disappearance? NO
85. Have the parents faced any criminal charges to date? NO
86. No charges for manslaughter? NO
87. For neglect? NO
88. Did the McCann's say they would take a polygraph(lie detector test) ? YES
89. Did the McCann "people" contact Don Cargill head of polygraph studies?YES
90. Did the McCann's tell the world they would take one to prove innocence? YES
91. Have they taken one in the 2'000+ days since saying they would? NO
92. Did the parents impose a list of conditions for taking one? YES
93. Did Don Cargill say the list was "impossible to satisfy"? YES
94. Did Don Cargill state "They had no intention of taking one"? YES
95. Did Clarence Mitchell say they were innocent and did not need to do one? YES
96. IS Amaral on trial because he wrote a book stating the facts of the case? YES
97. Is it a proper account of the police investigation ? YES
98. Have the McCann's fought desperately to have this book banned? YES
99. Is it banned? NO
100. Is maddie missing because of the actions of the parents? YES

Now the bizarre bit...

Ms McCann answered just one question put to her by the police during the interrogation, when she invoked her right to remain silent in protest at being treated as a suspect. She later said that she refused to co-operate because she thought the police treating her as a suspect was distracting them from the work they should have been doing to find Maddie.

If your child was missing, wouldn't you want to answer the following questions to help the police instead of staying silent...?

1 On May 3, 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?
2 Did you search inside the master bedroom wardrobe?
3 (Shown two photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?
4 Why was the curtain by the sofa near the side window tampered with? Did someone go behind the sofa?
5 How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected Madeleine’s disappearance?
6 Why did you say Madeleine had been abducted?
7 Assuming Madeleine was abducted, why did you leave the twins to go to the ‘Tapas’ and raise the alarm? The supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.
8 Why didn’t you ask the twins then what happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?
9 When you raised the alarm at the ‘Tapas’ what exactly did you say – what were your exact words?
10 What happened after you raised the alarm there?
11 Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?
12 Who contacted the authorities?
13 Who took place in the searches?
14 Did anyone outside the group learn of her disappearance in those following minutes?
15 Did any neighbour offer you help?
16 What does “we let her down” mean?
17 Did Jane Tanner tell you that night she’d seen a man with a child?
18 How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?
19 During the searches, with the police there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?
20 Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?
21 Who did you phone after the occurrence?
22 Did you call Sky News?
23 Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?
24 Did you ask for a priest?
25 By what means did you divulge Madeleine’s features, by photographs or by any other means?
26 Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?
27 What was your behaviour that night?
28 Did you manage to sleep?
29 Before travelling to Portugal, did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?
30 What was Madeleine’s behaviour like?
31 Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?
32 What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister?
33 What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?
34 As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?
35 What is your medical speciality?
36 Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?
37 Did you work every day?
38 At a certain point you stopped working. Why?
39 Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?
40 Is it true sometimes you despaired at your children’s behaviour and it left you feeling very uneasy?
41 Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?
42 In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?
43 In the case files, you were shown canine forensic testing films. After watching them, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?
44 When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?
45 When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?
46 When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?
47 When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, carried out in a British lab, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?
48 Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?

And just yesterday and today "Maddie" is featured all over the UK press, 13 years later - Does the goverment want a distraction from the covid track n trace hooha exploding in the UK?

The plot thickens even 13 years later ;)

Journeyman

27th January 2021, 12:26

This will get you thinking, asking your own questions and wondering what REALLY happened....

....And just yesterday and today "Maddie" is featured all over the UK press, 13 years later - Does the goverment want a distraction from the covid track n trace hooha exploding in the UK?

The plot thickens even 13 years later ;)

The post above highlights just what a saga the story of Madeleine McCann has become. Countless headlines, tv programs, books. It seemingly held the world rapt, certainly the UK where the papers barely left it alone for years.

I took a quick look through this thread and found several posts that show the dissatisfaction of many with the official line on this. So, I'd invite you to read the following with an open mind and, ideally, from start to finish:

https://www.deconstructingmadeleine.com/deconstructing-the-madeleine-mccann-story-part-1/

It's quite a radical theory but it's not without foundation and whether you finally agree or not I think it's worth giving proper consideration. It's important because, I suspect there's another chapter in this story still to come.

pueblo

4th December 2021, 17:14

https://twitter.com/J4CKMULL/status/1280575107799363585?s=20

ExomatrixTV

23rd February 2023, 13:43

Madeleine McCann’s parents agree to DNA-test woman claiming to be their daughter | New York Post

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Missing British child Madeleine McCann’s parents have agreed to a DNA test for a Polish woman who believes she’s their daughter — though even representatives for the young woman making the stunning claims admit that her background is “messy.” Gerry and Kate McCann, whose 3-year-old daughter, Madeleine, disappeared on vacation in Portugal over 15 years ago, are following up on Julia Faustyna’s claims that she is the kidnapped toddler, a source told the Daily Beast this week. Faustyna, 21, became an internet sensation this month after she started posting on social media under the handle @iammadeleinemccann. Earlier this week, she updated her Instagram bio with “Kate and Gerry McCann agreed for DNA test!”

nypost.com/2023/02/21/madeleine-mccann-parents-agree-to-dna-test-polish-woman (https://nypost.com/2023/02/21/madeleine-mccann-parents-agree-to-dna-test-polish-woman/)

ExomatrixTV

24th February 2023, 16:03

Mari

24th February 2023, 19:00

Family of Julia Faustyna Refuses DNA Test that could rule out Madeleine McCann Claim :facepalm:

nypost.com/2023/02/23/family-of-julia-faustyna-refuses-dna-test-after-madeleine-mccann-claim (https://nypost.com/2023/02/23/family-of-julia-faustyna-refuses-dna-test-after-madeleine-mccann-claim)

The mother of Julia Faustyna, 21, won’t hand over a genetic sample but insists she has documents proving Faustyna is her birth daughter (https://www.the-sun.com/news/7464415/family-madeleine-mccann-refuse-dna-test/), a private detective told the UK Sun.

Scammers. The only 'document' which will 'prove' parentage IS a DNA test. Any other 'documents' are meaningless. Of course Maddies parents will throw down the gauntlet (you're our daughter? -lets have a DNA test, then!) That's when the hoaxers start to back off.....

ExomatrixTV

25th March 2023, 19:53

REVEALED: Who is the woman claiming to be Madeleine McCann?

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Julia Faustyna made international headlines after claiming she may be Madeleine McCann, the British girl who vanished while on a family holiday in Portugal more than 15 years ago. Sky News Digital Originals presents an exclusive interview with the 'Persian Medium' – Dr. Fia Johansson – the private investigator supporting Julia as they await her DNA test results.

ExomatrixTV

15th February 2024, 20:50

The star witness for the Madeleine McCann case tells all | 60 Minutes Australia 🇦🇺:

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Next Friday marks a significant development in the 17-year-long Madeleine McCann (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Madeleine%20McCann) case. The prime suspect in her abduction and presumed murder, convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner, goes on trial in Germany. But not for what it’s thought he did to Maddie. Instead, he will be facing court charged with multiple sex offences against other children and a number of women. Now while it's not technically about Madeleine, the trial will be an important step for prosecutors in their pursuit of the truth about her death. And as Tara Brown reports, that's because of the evidence of their star witness, a man who has now spoken publicly for the first time.

norman

3rd August 2024, 14:27

This kinda looks like a real breakthrough. I'm still watching tho'.

Madeleine McCann was Not Abducted - Foreign Detective Bernt Stellander Tells All
Premiered on 1 Aug 2024

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Hermoor

6th August 2024, 23:09

I clearly remember when news of Madeleine's disappearance first broke. It was just as upsetting back then as it is today.

I didn't watch the video with Stellander, however accurate or inaccurate it may be.

There's a problem with James English. He's the biggest 'truther' in Scotland. He's also a freemason. A lot of us here in Scotland are aware of it, but it doesn't seem to be well known elsewhere.

Then there's David Icke. The biggest 'truther' in England. He's a freemason too, even though he's been ducking and diving the issue for decades. Why doesn't he just openly admit it and explain himself instead of ducking and diving?

Would it be fair to say Alex Jones is the biggest 'truther' in the USA? He's a freemason.

I'm not going to trash all freemasons just because their leadership and vast numbers of their useful idiots are human garbage. I personally know some decent enough freemasons myself.

The point I'm making is many alt media 'truthers' are actually controlled opposition and the scale of their sneaky involvement in the alt media is frankly enormous.

Each to their own, but I have a problem with that and it isn't a small one.

Merlinus

30th August 2024, 14:37

Most likely the mccanss gave up their child willingly, part of the child networks etc.

Merlinus

30th August 2024, 14:39

Yes, icke is controlled opp, as is james. The truth movement is controlled, the higher powers control both sides, they are the light, and the dark, the high, and the low. They have all sides covered, roughly speaking.

All public figures are controlled.

ExomatrixTV

3rd June 2025, 18:32

New Madeleine Mccann Search Launches Near Villa Where She Vanished & Suspect's House:

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Fresh police searches are due to start tomorrow near the spot where missing toddler Madeleine McCann was last seen.

German police are said to have requested the searches as prosecutors race against time to pin prime suspect Christian Brueckner down.

read more here (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/35215112/madeleine-mccann-new-search-missing/)

ExomatrixTV

11th June 2025, 20:02

True Crime: Madeleine Mccann Mystery Reopens With New Search For Evidence | 60 Minutes Australia:

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Three years before Madeleine McCann’s disappearance from a Portuguese seaside town, a young Irish woman claims she encountered the three-year-old’s suspected killer.

lunaflare

11th June 2025, 21:32

Madeleine's eyes are very distinctive. They are flecked--specifically the iris area; a condition called, heterochromia.
The Polish lass (refusing a DNA test!) really does not look anything like her.

Tintin

12th December 2025, 20:13

This has been reported before of course but a reminder on the cadaver dogs' responses in the apartment shared earlier on X (https://x.com/craig_c83/status/1999389449675747605). I've seen this clip before (2007) and it's possible it has been extracted from Richard's film. It's been a long time since I've seen that, so, can't be 100% certain, but whatever the source the Sun newspaper have/had retrieved it:

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THE DISAPPEARANCE OF MADELEINE McCANN 🧵

Dog handler Martin Grime (former FBI) describes what happened the moment the dogs entered Apartment 5A:

🔴 “As soon as I came in, the dog was very excited. As a handler, I can read his body language.”

🔴 “It appeared to me that as soon as he entered the apartment, he picked up a scent he recognised.”

🔴 “There was enough scent in that area for him to give a bark indication.”

🔴 “It was a strong indication — positive for what he is trained to find.”

🔴 “When we moved into the bedroom, he lost interest — because he had already found the source he was looking for.”

🔴 “This dog only barks when he finds something.”

Then the second dog, Keela, the crime-scene dog:

🔴 “She will only indicate when she has found HUMAN blood.”

🔴 “At the same location, Keela gave a passive indication — freezing on the spot — which tells me there is human blood present.”

🔴 SWAB 3A (behind the sofa):
“All confirmed DNA components match the DNA profile of Madeleine McCann.”

❗ Two dogs.
❗ Independently trained.
❗ Different disciplines.
❗ Same location.

This isn’t coincidence.
This is corroboration.

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https://avalonlibrary.net/Madeleine_McCann/THE_DISAPPEARANCE_OF_MADELEINE_McCANN____Dog%20handler%20Martin%20Grime%20%28former%20FBI%29%20descr ibes%20what%20happened%20the%20moment%20the%20dogs%20entered%20Apartment%205A.mp4

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More here from Martin Grimes
Source: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

OFFICIAL INQUIRY FILES and DOCUMENTS
MARTIN GRIME ROGATORY LETTERS

This information belongs to the Ministério Público in Portimão, Portugal.
It was released to the public on 4 August 2008 in accordance with Portuguese Law
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Translation
DVD Rogatory Letters 3rd volume
Martin Grime

Dated May 14 2008

I am a retired police offer, previously at the service of the South Yorkshire police. Between August 1-8, 2007, and while working for the South Yorkshire police, I collaborated with the Judicial Police, Portugal, as regards their Operations Task Force.

On the 17th of August 2007, I completed a report for the Head of Investigations of the Judicial Police, which was submitted by the Leicestershire Police. This report is exhibited as MG/1 and identified by the label bearing my signature. The Judicial Police is in possession of the originals of the search reports and the videos showing all searches performed and the reaction of the dogs. In addition to the report, Sam Harkeness of the Progresso National Police Agency sent me by email several written questions sent by the Judicial Police together with a request for a written deposition. This deposition was submitted without me having seen or having knowledge of the final report from the forensic agency responsible for analyzing the evidence submitted in this case.

Questions and Answers:

'Could you explain the methodology regarding the performance of the dogs bearing in mind the searches that were performed''

Please refer to my original report included in the summary (MG/1).

'Could you provide a detailed summary of the orientation capacity of the dogs, as well as an interpretation of the indications provided by them in the specific cases''

Please refer to my original report included in the summary (MG/1).
The interpretation of any alert is given when the dogs recognize a specific odour as a result of a response to the behaviour for which they were trained. This response must then be submitted to a forensic examination in order to draw conclusions.

'In order to establish the accuracy of the dogs' performance with respect to the alerts given when recognizing blood and a body, to what extent are these indications viable in this particular case''

The dogs' alerts are to be considered as an area of interest or possible testing. When specific and reliable this can only be measured for confirmation. In this case in particular, where the dogs alerted there was confirmation by positive results from the forensic examinations. It is the investigators' responsibility to apply the results of the forensic analysis to the suspects, witnesses and crime scenes.

'Based upon the dogs' behaviour, is it possible to distinguish between a strong signal and a weak signal'.

The dogs' passive CSI alert provides an indication as per their training and does not vary. They only give an alert when they are 'positive' that the target of the odour is present and immediately accessible. If they had any doubts they would not give an alert. EVRD gives an alert by means of a vocal bark. The variations in the vocal alert can be explained by many reasons such as 'thirst' or 'lack of air due to effort'. Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc.

'Can you confirm if the signal given regarding the stuffed toy corresponds to a concrete alert of detection of a cadaver, or a mere trick played by the dog''

The dogs were not taught any 'tricks'. EVRD 'signalled' the toy, which at my request was retained by the Judicial Police for future forensic analysis. I have no knowledge of the results of any forensic analysis on the toy.

'With respect to the cadaver odour on Kate's clothes, could it be undoubtedly affirmed that those clothes had been in contact with a cadaver'
OR
Could the alert have been given because the clothes had been in contact with other items of clothing, surfaces or objects that could previously have touched a cadaver, thereby allowing the odour to be transferred''

There is always a possibility of contamination of odours by transferral. EVRD does not make a distinction; he responds with a certain behaviour for which he was trained when he recognizes an odour. He does not identify the reasons for the presence of the odour nor does he identify suspects. Forensic confirmation and specialized investigation methods will determine the reasons and the suspicions. In order to undoubtedly affirm there must be a confirmation of the alert signals made by the dog.

'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'

The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.

'Taking into account the signals of CSI, could the dog alert to other biological fluids''

The dog that alerts to human blood is trained exclusively for this purpose, and includes its components, plasma, red cells, white cells and platelets. Given the nature of the training, the dog will not alert to urine, saliva, semen sweat, nasal secretion, vaginal secretion or human skin unless these are mixed with blood. The components of blood are approximately:
- Red cells 40-50%
- Plasma 55% (of which 95% is water)
- White cells
- Platelets
- DNA can only be removed from white cells.
- This would suggest that, of the samples signalled by the dog looking for human blood, approximately 5% are available for DNA tests.

'Is there any chance, however remote, of any confusion'

The dogs do not get confused. They transmit a behavioural response inspired by the recognition of the odour for which they were trained.

'How long does a cadaver have to be in contact with a surface or an object for the odour to be detected''
Cross-contamination is immediate.

'How long can a trace of blood remain at a scene and be detected by the CSI dog''

During both training and operations, the CSI dog correctly located and signalled the presence of blood from 1960. This is not at all surprising. If enough blood is present so that the dog can recognize its odour, he will locate it and alert to its presence. There is no time restriction as regards the recognition of the odour by the dog. Blood, however, is subject to deterioration such as time and other natural processes such as dilution due to rain and other reactive chemical agents.

'Can the dog mix up traces of human odours with others that are non-human''

I cannot comment on what the dogs think. However, from a forensic point of view and from confirmations of scientific testimonies, the dogs appear to be extremely exact. But, forensic confirmation is required in all cases so as to be included as proof. The CSI dog is trained using only human blood. And using a wide spectrum of donors to ensure that the dog does not individualize them.
EVRD used to be trained using swine (pigs) as their odour is the closest to that of humans. But most of the time, however, the dog was trained using the odour of a human cadaver. Operationally, the dog has ignored large amounts of animal remains/bones when locating human decomposition.

'Based upon your experience with the dogs, can you specify whether the positive signals given by them have always matched the scientific results''

I cannot. In this case, for example, not all the alert signals have been investigated by the appropriate agencies in order to provide forensic comparations, in spite of indications to the contrary. It also should be taken into account that the procedures for forensic testing are still less discriminating than the system of dogs' smell.
During training, the dogs are barely rewarded for positive alert signals regarding targets of known substances.

'At any time, did Gerald McCann address, either in Portugal or the United Kingdom, the performance of the dogs in this case''

I never met nor spoken to Gerald McCann. However I do know that he addressed my head supervisor at the time, the South Yorkshire Head of Police, or Mr. Meredith Hughes.

This deposition was made by me and is true according to my understanding.

Bill Ryan

3rd February 2026, 08:23

Copying this post by Ravenlocke on the Jeffrey Epstein thread:

(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107734-Jeffrey-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell-the-whole-story-so-far&p=1700856&viewfull=1#post1700856)~~~

Lord Bebo

🇺🇸🇨🇦🇵🇹 The Epstein files contain an email discussing the Netflix Canada documentary "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

It mentions an episode that reveals how wealthy American men flew to Portugal on private jets to exploit children.

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/2018304162488819956

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(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107734-Jeffrey-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell-the-whole-story-so-far&p=1700856&viewfull=1#post1700856)

Mike Gorman

3rd February 2026, 08:40

norman

3rd February 2026, 08:51