Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed?

[observer]

I'm opening this thread as a repository for any pertinent information any of the members might have related to CERN.

I would especially like to see what other members know about a connection between the suggested Break-Away Civilization and its relationship to what is going-on at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) run by CERN.

Since symbols have occult meaning, I would like to point-out two significant symbols associated with CERN:

Shiva's Cosmic Dance at CERN -
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b509/POV_At_Exit_0/CERNI_zps28bcafe9.jpg

The CERN logo, a stylized 666 -
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b509/POV_At_Exit_0/CERNII_zpse3ca09d0.jpg

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Some Reference Material:

The Secret Space Program and Breakaway Civilization - Richard Dolan Lecture -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMn8NCGVUV0

Peter Levenda - Secret Space Program & Breakaway Civilization -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ire2jMRBQRw

Joseph P. Farrell - "Clash of Breakaway Civilizations & Secret Space Program" -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ZmdnhqpwU

Jim Marrs- Hidden History -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmbHXB7NBY
(This is an excellent lecture describing the history of humanity. Understanding how the Human Condition has been masterfully controlled throughout history is foundational to understanding what energy is behind the creation of a Break-Away Civilization.)

[observer]

The Big Question, on the table, is: this Large Hadron Collider (LHC), could it really be a Star Gate in disguise?

[Selene]

The Big Question, on the table, is: this Large Hadron Collider (LHC), could it really be a Star Gate in disguise?

I’ve always had the same question, or even a few more.

The entire construction of the large hadron collider (LHC) must raise the eyebrows of any intelligent person:

• In a world of budget scarcity, the consortium was put together by 35 national governments in record time for a budget of 7.5+ Billion Euros (as of 2010 that they’ll admit, more recent figures not available) and still counting . Really? They have that much of (our tax!) money to toss around instead of on education, health care or even military considerations?

• The location of the LHC structure itself oddly crosses the borders of France and Switzerland several times. Whatever treaty was involved in approving this location was fast-tracked through both – and many other - parliaments. Why this place? What was so barking special about the location that there were no (typically) decades-long diplomatic cavils and conferences?

• The ‘scientific justification’ here: ‘Ooooh, we’re just geeks wandering around looking for a theoretical particle…’ is so thin as to be laughable. There is no hypothetical or practical description that I can find which gives a credible justification for the money and energy spent on the LHC. Lots of bafflegab, yes. “Its aim is to allow physicists to test the predictions of different theories of particle physics and high-energy physics, and particularly prove or disprove the existence of the theorized Higgs boson[1] and of the large family of new particles predicted by supersymmetric theories.….” Yeah, whatever. No good answer beyond “We’re kinda curious…” FU, if that’s the case and this is my money you're blowing up…

• Why did everyone sign onto this so totally?

Like many of you, I’d like some good answers. We are being lied to, as usual.

Regards,

Selene

[jake gittes]

Any chance of getting a synopsis of the 7+ hours of videos, OP? I don't have tech capabilities where I am for such streaming (not a lot of time, either). I'm especially curious about the relation to the Reagan shooting (by a Bush family friend, of course), an historical event that hasn't garnered as much attention as it should have only because he survived.

Thanks!

[ghostrider]

Using the technology they will discover that controlling the speed of particles is the key to traveling in deep cosmic space ... they will find so many uses , and the remaining forces of nature they don't yet know about ... the advancement of mankind is in the hands of experiments by science exploring the speed of tiny particles at different frequencies ...

[observer]

Any chance of getting a synopsis of the 7+ hours of videos, OP? I don't have tech capabilities where I am for such streaming (not a lot of time, either). I'm especially curious about the relation to the Reagan shooting (by a Bush family friend, of course), an historical event that hasn't garnered as much attention as it should have only because he survived.

Thanks!

Thanks for asking jake,

The point of posting the 7+ hours is foundational to the hypothesis that the LHC is more than a science experiment designed to discover exotic quantum particles.

The first three videos are documentation for the existence of a Break-Away Civilization. It is no secret, here on the Avalon Forum, that this sub-culture actually exists. One can find an abundance of information supporting this hypothesis, all one need do is search the term "Break-Away Civilization". The three spokespersons, Dolan, Levenda, and Ferrell, I chose are the leading authorities on the subject, although one will find many more experts if one chooses to do the research. Studying the existence of a Break-Away Civilization is fundamental in understanding how CERN could be more than a science experiment.

The last video, with Jim Marrs, is a basic study 101 on an alternate history of human civilization. Jim takes abstract elements of the archeological record and ties those obvious ancient technologies to contemporary history. With the understanding of a contiguous agenda, stretching over 12,000 years (more-or-less) of time, it becomes easier to see how this entire chain of events, known as the Civilization of Humanity, has been masterfully manipulated to one specific end - a Break-Away Civilization.

The videos are foundational to these conclusions. Any member is welcome to ignore this part of the project, if there is already an acceptance of these conclusions.

[Jake]

Thx, Observer... :) I was just over at the Unknown Country Website.. It is Whitley Streiber's page.. This week and next week they are breaking down the Breakaway Civilization and highlighting many of the same names already mentioned.. It is worth the listen...

Abstract:
"" Friday November 21, 2014
The Breakaway Civilization, Part 1
There is substantial evidence that another human civilization exists that is far in advance of our own. But who are they, and how have they gained their technological advantage?

This week, we begin a two week discussion with Joseph Farrell, Catherine Austin Fitts and Richard Dolan about the breakaway civilization, what it is, why it exists, how it came to possess its technologies, and why it is so secretive.

In this first week, Whitley Strieber begins by offering proof that it actually exists, in the form of the implant in his ear. He remembers it being put in by people, not aliens. It has been studied and found to be far in advance of anything that is publicly available. So people with advanced technical knowledge installed it.

This week, Catherine Austin Fitts and Joseph Farrell explain to us how the breakaway civilization is financed and how it came into being. Next week, Richard Dolan will join us to discuss the amazing technologies and power of the breakaway civilization.

Catherine Austin Fitts' website is www.Solari.com.
Joseph Farrell's website is www.Giza Death Star.com
Richard Dolan's website is www.RichardDolanPress.com

Read the original source: http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/latest#ixzz3Jn9fhUY1


Cheers
Jake.

[observer]

Using the technology they will discover that controlling the speed of particles is the key to traveling in deep cosmic space ... they will find so many uses , and the remaining forces of nature they don't yet know about ... the advancement of mankind is in the hands of experiments by science exploring the speed of tiny particles at different frequencies ...

So, if I understand your comment clearly, ghostrider, you are not subscribing to the suggestion that the LHC is, in itself, Star Gate technology. Rather it is a scientific exploration into the technical understanding of how to build a Star Gate. More or less, a stepping-stone, so to speak.

In any event, with the ultimate goal of seeking Star Gate technology.

[observer]

Thx, Observer... :) I was just over at the Unknown Country Website.. It is Whitley Streiber's page.. This week and next week they are breaking down the Breakaway Civilization and highlighting many of the same names already mentioned.. It is worth the listen...

Abstract:
"" Friday November 21, 2014
The Breakaway Civilization, Part 1
There is substantial evidence that another human civilization exists that is far in advance of our own. But who are they, and how have they gained their technological advantage?

This week, we begin a two week discussion with Joseph Farrell, Catherine Austin Fitts and Richard Dolan about the breakaway civilization, what it is, why it exists, how it came to possess its technologies, and why it is so secretive.

In this first week, Whitley Strieber begins by offering proof that it actually exists, in the form of the implant in his ear. He remembers it being put in by people, not aliens. It has been studied and found to be far in advance of anything that is publicly available. So people with advanced technical knowledge installed it.

This week, Catherine Austin Fitts and Joseph Farrell explain to us how the breakaway civilization is financed and how it came into being. Next week, Richard Dolan will join us to discuss the amazing technologies and power of the breakaway civilization.

Catherine Austin Fitts' website is www.Solari.com.
Joseph Farrell's website is www.Giza Death Star.com
Richard Dolan's website is www.RichardDolanPress.com

Read the original source: http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/latest#ixzz3Jn9fhUY1


Cheers
Jake.


From the link, http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/latest#ixzz3JnDZlgct offered by Jake - "There is substantial evidence that another human civilization exists that is far in advance of our own. But who are they, and how have they gained their technological advantage?"

Thanks for your support, Jake.

[observer]

The Big Question, on the table, is: this Large Hadron Collider (LHC), could it really be a Star Gate in disguise?

I’ve always had the same question, or even a few more.

The entire construction of the large hadron collider (LHC) must raise the eyebrows of any intelligent person:

• In a world of budget scarcity, the consortium was put together by 35 national governments in record time for a budget of 7.5+ Billion Euros (as of 2010 that they’ll admit, more recent figures not available) and still counting . Really? They have that much of (our tax!) money to toss around instead of on education, health care or even military considerations?

• The location of the LHC structure itself oddly crosses the borders of France and Switzerland several times. Whatever treaty was involved in approving this location was fast-tracked through both – and many other - parliaments. Why this place? What was so barking special about the location that there were no (typically) decades-long diplomatic cavils and conferences?

• The ‘scientific justification’ here: ‘Ooooh, we’re just geeks wandering around looking for a theoretical particle…’ is so thin as to be laughable. There is no hypothetical or practical description that I can find which gives a credible justification for the money and energy spent on the LHC. Lots of bafflegab, yes. “Its aim is to allow physicists to test the predictions of different theories of particle physics and high-energy physics, and particularly prove or disprove the existence of the theorized Higgs boson[1] and of the large family of new particles predicted by supersymmetric theories.….” Yeah, whatever. No good answer beyond “We’re kinda curious…” FU, if that’s the case and this is my money you're blowing up…

• Why did everyone sign onto this so totally?

Like many of you, I’d like some good answers. We are being lied to, as usual.

Regards,

Selene

I agree with you unanimously, Selene, especially the points that I took the liberty to highlight.

[Nick Matkin]

I admit to being puzzled to how CERN managed to convince EU governments to supply large sums of money from organizations which probably employ people without any basic physics knowledge, and the science would have gone right over their heads, yet they still paid up. It must have been one hell of a Powerpoint presentation!

While we on the subject of CERN, didn't Simon Parkes say last year that some alien group had to build an even bigger one by 2015? That's next year!

This seems an odd thing for Simon to say as it's not something you could hide the construction of in Europe. As the the first one took about five years to build, it would take at least that long to build a bigger one. Has it been started yet? Does anyone know anyone who is involved with its construction? Have they managed to smuggle in the atomic-powered tunnelling machines? Even if they have, where are the lorry loads of construction materials and technical equipment? Where is the evidence?

Nick

[ghostrider]

Using the technology they will discover that controlling the speed of particles is the key to traveling in deep cosmic space ... they will find so many uses , and the remaining forces of nature they don't yet know about ... the advancement of mankind is in the hands of experiments by science exploring the speed of tiny particles at different frequencies ...

So, if I understand your comment clearly, ghostrider, you are not subscribing to the suggestion that the LHC is, in itself, Star Gate technology. Rather it is a scientific exploration into the technical understanding of how to build a Star Gate. More or less, a stepping-stone, so to speak.

In any event, with the ultimate goal of seeking Star Gate technology.

No sir , not so much a star gate but , the secret will unlock how to harness the energy of space for propulsion in spaceships , using dark matter , dark energy , sub neutrinos , quarks , etc ... put a hulu hoop inside a slightly smaller one , and another inside of that , and another inside of that , keep going till you get seven rings , hence the disk shape is best for installing the hyperdrive in the craft ... particles moving one direction very near the tube of particles moving the other direction , and so on , they will be an exchange of gravity and a field , match the frequency to that of earth , and your floating on earth's magnetic wave and shielding yourself from radiation in the process ... every wonder why most ET craft are disk shaped ??? A tiny version of CERN used as a spaceship engine , you can go anywhere without running out of fuel ... controlling the speed of the particles is the key , not smashing them together ... they don't know what they are doing , we know what the building blocks of life can do if used wrong , atom bomb ... the same principle used rightly can allow us to enter the cosmic universe ...I've said too much ... they aren't ready for the good of all , they are just interested in weapons and killing ...

[observer]

Using the technology they will discover that controlling the speed of particles is the key to traveling in deep cosmic space ... they will find so many uses , and the remaining forces of nature they don't yet know about ... the advancement of mankind is in the hands of experiments by science exploring the speed of tiny particles at different frequencies ...

So, if I understand your comment clearly, ghostrider, you are not subscribing to the suggestion that the LHC is, in itself, Star Gate technology. Rather it is a scientific exploration into the technical understanding of how to build a Star Gate. More or less, a stepping-stone, so to speak.

In any event, with the ultimate goal of seeking Star Gate technology.

No sir , not so much a star gate but , the secret will unlock how to harness the energy of space for propulsion in spaceships , using dark matter , dark energy , sub neutrinos , quarks , etc ... put a hulu hoop inside a slightly smaller one , and another inside of that , and another inside of that , keep going till you get seven rings , hence the disk shape is best for installing the hyperdrive in the craft ... particles moving one direction very near the tube of particles moving the other direction , and so on , they will be an exchange of gravity and a field , match the frequency to that of earth , and your floating on earth's magnetic wave and shielding yourself from radiation in the process ... every wonder why most ET craft are disk shaped ??? A tiny version of CERN used as a spaceship engine , you can go anywhere without running out of fuel ... controlling the speed of the particles is the key , not smashing them together ... they don't know what they are doing , we know what the building blocks of life can do if used wrong , atom bomb ... the same principle used rightly can allow us to enter the cosmic universe ...I've said too much ... they aren't ready for the good of all , they are just interested in weapons and killing ...

Weapons research seems to me a thinly woven veil, ghost. And, it would seem technicians have already mastered the art of how to electromagnetically control the speed of sub-atomic particles. That's what the "accelerator" part of the LHC is all about, a particle accelerator.

The Nazis developed a gravity drive system in The Bell Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke), where counter-rotating electromagnetic fields were central to the concept. This alleged Break-Away Civilization already has the drive system you are suggesting. Just look at the secret space program for examples of this. So unless those globalists who are funding the program are simply looking for a new ultimate weapon, there is much more hidden in the shadows.

I'm not trying to argue. Logic would conclude a weapon capable of creating a new universe (Big Bang Theory - ugh) would serve no purpose to a sub-culture (Break-Away Civilization) intent on leaving this particular universe (*) - unless, of course, that sub-culture also wished to promote a Scorched Earth Policy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_earth) as they departed.

This theory would explain the statue of Shiva haunting the entrance to the facility - recreate a new, while destroying the old.

(*) It has long been suggested that those entities behind the eons-old agenda to create a Break-Away Civilization are intent only on leaving this particular universe. That those entities were trapped within the matrix of this particular universe as the result of a Cosmic War in great antiquity. Joseph Farrell's work goes into great detail of this possibility.

Research Resources:

Look into the Giza Death Star Trilogy by Dr. Joseph Farrell. Here's a link to the first book in the series:
http://books.google.com/books?id=nzaiviPoS5oC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=OhWPHVDLsS&sig=z2Bl95XTlkZpSXZ5iOT9_N-mw7E&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CGwQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q&f=false

Here's a list of books by Dr. Farrell free on Google:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=the+cosmic+war+Dr.+Joseph+Ferrell&=&gws_rd=ssl#hl=en&tbm=bks&q=the+cosmic+war+Dr.+Joseph+Farrell&spell=1

Research what Dr. Ferrell has to say about The Cosmic War of great antiquity.

[gripreaper]

Using the technology they will discover that controlling the speed of particles is the key to traveling in deep cosmic space ... they will find so many uses , and the remaining forces of nature they don't yet know about ... the advancement of mankind is in the hands of experiments by science exploring the speed of tiny particles at different frequencies ...

So, if I understand your comment clearly, ghostrider, you are not subscribing to the suggestion that the LHC is, in itself, Star Gate technology. Rather it is a scientific exploration into the technical understanding of how to build a Star Gate. More or less, a stepping-stone, so to speak.

In any event, with the ultimate goal of seeking Star Gate technology.

This is my current hypothesis at this time observer, is that CERN is related to the need for this breakaway civilization to traverse the dimensions in a body, and they are manipulating matter and the speed of particles, to learn how to rearrange them or suspend them or somehow break them down to their basic element where these light particles can travel through time and be reassembled at another location.

Remember the "transporter" in Star Trec, where the famous tag line "Beam me up Scotty!" came from?

Also, this is a very prescient inquiry at this time, and I totally agree, Joseph Farrell, Katherine Austin Fitts, and Richard Dolan are leading the charge and are "onto something" which is very important.

The Dark Journalist is really on it too, and is very well read on the subject and is an excellent interviewer for this inquiry. http://www.darkjournalist.com/

[update]

And many thanks to Jake for calling to my attention the latest conference!

[heyokah]

The picture in the OP of Shiva's Cosmic Dance at CERN raises the question: "Is the Large Hadron Collider, LHC, The Stargate of Shiva?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVk-xzSDkK4?list=FLnA_0vPd_7VbtO23gQiXY_g

According to researcher William Henry, the ancient Egyptian object named Ta-Wer, aka “Osiris device", was a stargate machine capable to open wormholes or dimensional openings used by Seth and Osiris to “travel across the underworld.”

The wormhole model (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/27xikhu/8), proposed by the physicist Kurt Gödel (http://bigthink.com/dr-kakus-universe/is-time-travel-possible-part-ii)is identical to (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/2jeclrn/8)the “Boat of Million Years“, (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/fc623s/8) used by Ra to travel across the underworld.
The Ta-Wer could produce a huge amount of energy, enough to "bend" the space, forming two light cones, interconneted by a space-time tunnel where matter could pass. (Among UFO researchers it is said that the Ta-Wer could be part of a huge device that activated dimensional portals, stargates or wormholes.)
This supposed stargate device was placed within the 'Osirion', a huge underground chamber built below the Seti temple, in Abydos.
This remind us the underground facility where is placed the LHC, the huge subatomic particle booster supposedly built to teproduce energy conditions similar to those following the Big Bang.
But according to Prof Irina Aref’eva and Dr Igor Volovich, both mathematical physicists at the Steklov Mathematical Institute in Moscow, the energies generated by the subatomic collisions in the LHC may be powerful enough to rip space-time itself, spawning wormholes.

Could it be that this 27 km diameter collider is a real stargate machine?
According to Ph.D Otto Rossler and the Nobel physicist Frank Wilczek the LHC can produce an amount of energy capable to open a small black hole.
Regarding it was built with this purpose, the question is, should the LHC bring something to earth? Or someone? * [Or is it to get some people out?]

Maybe we can find the answers in the building of CERN.

http://i62.tinypic.com/w9v5hf.jpg

We know that scientists of world wide have been working on LHC development, including Indian scientists, but a 2m high statue of the most feared hindu deity EVER, in front of the LHC facility, seems weird.

A group of Portugese students of the Santa Cicilia Music Academi took images of odd panels within the CERN building, with ancient writings, most of them in Sanskrit, but also with these strange, unknown characters.....
They could be just fancy messages left by foreign scientists, representing their nations. Some panel seems ancient Mandarin, other some Arab characters, but one particular panel has very strange characters and an other panel has Sanskrit characters.

http://i59.tinypic.com/11j7v36.jpg

In India, the only people that read and write Sanskrit, are scholars of Vedas and Upanishads, scriptures written in the “language of the gods”.
Why do these panels have security sensors around them and what are they?? Invocations???

[ghostrider]

there is even more tiny particles they have yet to discover , Cern is just a tool to get there ... no doubt they will use it for weapons and other purposes ... the danger is humanity is not spiritually advanced enough to handle greater power , look what they did with nuclear technology ...

[observer]

This is my current hypothesis at this time observer, is that CERN is related to the need for this breakaway civilization to traverse the dimensions in a body, and they are manipulating matter and the speed of particles, to learn how to rearrange them or suspend them or somehow break them down to their basic element where these light particles can travel through time and be reassembled at another location.

Remember the "transporter" in Star Trec, where the famous tag line "Beam me up Scotty!" came from?

Also, this is a very prescient inquiry at this time, and I totally agree, Joseph Farrell, Katherine Austin Fitts, and Richard Dolan are leading the charge and are "onto something" which is very important.

The Dark Journalist is really on it too, and is very well read on the subject and is an excellent interviewer for this inquiry. http://www.darkjournalist.com/

[update]

And many thanks to Jake for calling to my attention the latest conference!

Thanks for your input, grip.

Your summation is an exact match to what I believe, as well. The entire project is designed to create a wormhole, through which a physical body can travel, perhaps to an alternate universe, or at least, some other location within this particular universe.

I second your suggestion regarding "The Dark Journalist". I've also been following some of his interviews. I could have just as well listed some of those in the OP.

Here are a few for the consumption of the membership:

Dark Journalist: Richard Dolan: UFOs & The Breakaway Civilization -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CGG5gjsUNY

Dark Journalist & Joseph Farrell: Roots of the Breakaway Civilization (NASA, Nazi International,JFK) -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vbg6bAe6d4

Dark Journalist: Catherine Austin Fitts - Dancing With The Breakaway Civilization - Part 1 -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCHU7ohTNCs

Since many of the membership object to doing much research, I'll leave the shortlist. Any member who seeks more foundation should search-term the keywords: "The Dark Journalist Breakaway Civilization" in the YouTube search engine.

[observer]

The picture in the OP of Shiva's Cosmic Dance at CERN raises the question: "Is the Large Hadron Collider, LHC, The Stargate of Shiva?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVk-xzSDkK4?list=FLnA_0vPd_7VbtO23gQiXY_g

According to researcher William Henry, the ancient Egyptian object named Ta-Wer, aka “Osiris device", was a stargate machine capable to open wormholes or dimensional openings used by Seth and Osiris to “travel across the underworld.”

The wormhole model (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/27xikhu/8), proposed by the physicist Kurt Gödel (http://bigthink.com/dr-kakus-universe/is-time-travel-possible-part-ii)is identical to (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/2jeclrn/8)the “Boat of Million Years“, (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/fc623s/8) used by Ra to travel across the underworld.
The Ta-Wer could produce a huge amount of energy, enough to "bend" the space, forming two light cones, interconneted by a space-time tunnel where matter could pass. (Among UFO researchers it is said that the Ta-Wer could be part of a huge device that activated dimensional portals, stargates or wormholes.)
This supposed stargate device was placed within the 'Osirion', a huge underground chamber built below the Seti temple, in Abydos.
This remind us the underground facility where is placed the LHC, the huge subatomic particle booster supposedly built to teproduce energy conditions similar to those following the Big Bang.
But according to Prof Irina Aref’eva and Dr Igor Volovich, both mathematical physicists at the Steklov Mathematical Institute in Moscow, the energies generated by the subatomic collisions in the LHC may be powerful enough to rip space-time itself, spawning wormholes.

Could it be that this 27 km diameter collider is a real stargate machine?
According to Ph.D Otto Rossler and the Nobel physicist Frank Wilczek the LHC can produce an amount of energy capable to open a small black hole.
Regarding it was built with this purpose, the question is, should the LHC bring something to earth? Or someone? * [Or is it to get some people out?]

Maybe we can find the answers in the building of CERN.

http://i62.tinypic.com/w9v5hf.jpg

We know that scientists of world wide have been working on LHC development, including Indian scientists, but a 2m high statue of the most feared hindu deity EVER, in front of the LHC facility, seems weird.

A group of Portugese students of the Santa Cicilia Music Academi took images of odd panels within the CERN building, with ancient writings, most of them in Sanskrit, but also with these strange, unknown characters.....
They could be just fancy messages left by foreign scientists, representing their nations. Some panel seems ancient Mandarin, other some Arab characters, but one particular panel has very strange characters and an other panel has Sanskrit characters.

http://i59.tinypic.com/11j7v36.jpg

In India, the only people that read and write Sanskrit, are scholars of Vedas and Upanishads, scriptures written in the “language of the gods”.
Why do these panels have security sensors around them and what are they?? Invocations???

:bump:


Thank you heyokah, a very relevant summation.

[Agape]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/never-seen-particles-discovered-swiss-collider-132634492.html#8ifFgKG

Never-Before-Seen Particles Discovered at Swiss Collider

Two new subatomic particles have popped up at the world's largest atom smasher. The never-before-seen particles could help physicists glean key information about the building blocks of matter in the universe.
The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) near Geneva, Switzerland, is a veritable particle piñata: The massive underground machine accelerates two beams of protons to nearly the speed of light and smashes them together. Breaking the protons apart with so much energy creates a shower of new particles for scientists to study.
One of the experiments at the LHC, called LHCb, identified two never-before-seen baryon particles in their most recent particle cache. [Wacky Physics: The Coolest Little Particles in Nature]
“Nature was kind and gave us two particles for the price of one," Matthew Charles of the CNRS's LPNHE laboratory at Paris VI University, said in a statement.
The new particles are known as Xi_b'- and Xi_b*-, and are each made up of three quarks. Quarks are believed to be truly fundamental particles, meaning they are not made up of smaller particles. Protons, a key ingredient in atoms, are also made up of three quarks.
Xi_b'- and Xi_b*- consist of one down quark, one strange quark and one bottom quark (also known as a beauty quark). Other particles consisting of this same quark combination were seen at the LHC in 2012, and by experiments at Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in 2007.
So what makes Xi_b'- and Xi_b*- unique? The quarks contained in them have different "spins," — an important property of particles that includes a number and a direction. Differences in the quark spins can make two particles unique, even if they contain the same combination of quark types.
The differences in spin also give Xi_b'- and Xi_b*- slightly different masses, which is crucial to detecting them. In fact, "if [Xi_b'-] had been just a little lighter, we wouldn't have seen it at all," with the approach the scientists used, Charles said.
So far, the new particles appear to be behaving the way scientists predicted they would. Physicists have mapped out all the particles that should come from different quark combinations. This is part of the Standard Model — the reigning theory of particle physics that outlines how the universe should behave. Scientists say that confirming the existence of all the particles in the Standard Model is the first step in looking for physics that goes beyond the Standard Model — that breaks the rules.
“If we want to find new physics beyond the Standard Model, we need first to have a sharp picture,” said LHCb’s physics coordinator Patrick Koppenburg from Nikhef Institute in Amsterdam. “Such high-precision studies will help us to differentiate between Standard Model effects and anything new or unexpected in the future.”
On July 4, 2012, scientists at the LHC announced they had found an elementary particle called the Higgs boson, which could help scientists understand how matter has mass. The Higgs is thought to be associated with a field that can impart mass on particles that pass through it. The discovery of the long-sought Higgs boson also represented the final piece of the puzzle predicted by the Standard Model.
The new baryon particles were detected from data collected from 2011 to 2012. After a long shutdown for upgrades, scientists are preparing the LHC to once again start colliding particles, but at higher energies and with more intense beams than ever before, according to CERN, the research organization that operates the LHC. The collider is scheduled to restart by the spring of 2015.





I'm sure they have super sensitive recording equipment installed in the tunnel and if they ever achieved breakthrough to another dimension they could see , perhaps , clear picture of the other reality .

[gripreaper]

The new baryon particles were detected from data collected from 2011 to 2012. After a long shutdown for upgrades, scientists are preparing the LHC to once again start colliding particles, but at higher energies and with more intense beams than ever before, according to CERN, the research organization that operates the LHC. The collider is scheduled to restart by the spring of 2015.

That should prove to be a lot of fun, messing with the same space/time continuum which brought down Atlantis.

[observer]

I'm sure they have super sensitive recording equipment installed in the tunnel and if they ever achieved breakthrough to another dimension they could see , perhaps , clear picture of the other reality .


there is even more tiny particles they have yet to discover , Cern is just a tool to get there ... no doubt they will use it for weapons and other purposes ... the danger is humanity is not spiritually advanced enough to handle greater power , look what they did with nuclear technology ...

Thanks Agape for pointing-out that this experiment into insanity is scheduled to reboot in the near future.

As for the part of ghostrider's quote that I highlighted, above, this sounds to me more of the same old mantra: "....just go back to sleep, everything will be O.K. at the Bright New Dawn".

The point of the OP is to look into what is actually being developed at CERN.

It is my personal hypothesis this technology is a mirror image of what caused the mass extinction of the Human Species in great antiquity. This Mass extinction is documented in mythological records from around the globe. There is no doubt something other than a mythological God caused this event to occur.

Is that which we shall all agree to call, "The Break-Away Civilization", on the cusp of "Playing God", yet again???

Is the Human Race ready for this???

Is there anything the Mass of Humanity can do to stop it???

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Riese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0b/WrinkleInTimePBA1.jpg/220px-WrinkleInTimePBA1.jpg


... Calvin tells them that they are from earth, a “shadowed planet” and that they are here trying to fight the Black Thing


planet turns out to be controlled by an evil disembodied brain with powerful telepathic abilities, which the inhabitants of Camazotz call "IT"

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/


IBM's conscious involvement—directly and through its subsidiaries—in the Holocaust


Only after Jews were identified -- a massive and complex task that Hitler wanted done immediately -- could they be targeted for efficient asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, enslaved labor, and, ultimately, annihilation. It was a cross-tabulation and organizational challenge so monumental, it called for a computer. Of course, in the 1930s no computer existed.

But IBM's Hollerith punch card technology did exist. Aided by the company's custom-designed and constantly updated Hollerith systems, Hitler was able to automate his persecution of the Jews. Historians have always been amazed at the speed and accuracy with which the Nazis were able to identify and locate European Jewry. Until now, the pieces of this puzzle have never been fully assembled. The fact is, IBM technology was used to organize nearly everything in Germany and then Nazi Europe, from the identification of the Jews in censuses, registrations, and ancestral tracing programs to the running of railroads and organizing of concentration camp slave labor.

IBM and its German subsidiary custom-designed complex solutions, one by one, anticipating the Reich's needs. They did not merely sell the machines and walk away. Instead, IBM leased these machines for high fees and became the sole source of the billions of punch cards Hitler needed.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/CERN_official_logo.jpg

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/the-copenhagen-meeting-of-heisenberg-and-bohr/




“It was from September 1941 that we saw an open road ahead of us, leading to the atomic bomb.”

– Werner Heisenberg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Bulletin_Atomic_Scientists_Cover.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Cern-accelerator-complex.svg/300px-Cern-accelerator-complex.svg.png

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100623052044/darkhorse/images/thumb/7/72/Hellboy_Conqueror_Worm_Vol_1_4.jpg/300px-Hellboy_Conqueror_Worm_Vol_1_4.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Lobster_Johnson.jpg


http://home.web.cern.ch/about/computing/worldwide-lhc-computing-grid

http://home.web.cern.ch/sites/home.web.cern.ch/files/image/computing_page/2013/01/computing_home_image.jpeg

http://41.media.tumblr.com/48a09a9ed89227d96d9a1d5a4572127d/tumblr_mocs2vs59G1s5ys7lo1_400.jpg

[ghostrider]

it is very dangerous to explore the building blocks of life without really knowing what your doing , who know what could happen if they have an accident at the facility ... a meteor impact , an earthquake , sinkhole , magnetic storm from the sun , or a terrorist attack , or a thunderstorm roll in while they are online ... some technology can't just be turned off as they found with the WTC ...

[observer]

For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Riese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time



Thanks for the links, WTC, I took the liberty to appropriate one of them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke) and added it to my comment #13 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=904305&viewfull=1#post904305)

[observer]

it is very dangerous to explore the building blocks of life without really knowing what your doing , who know what could happen if they have an accident at the facility ... a meteor impact , an earthquake , sinkhole , magnetic storm from the sun , or a terrorist attack , or a thunderstorm roll in while they are online ... some technology can't just be turned off as they found with the WTC ...

I agree with you completely to this regard, ghost, when looking at the situation through this filter.

We are not talking about "reasonable" scientific investigation, however. This project is a run-away freight train headed down a path to ultimate destruction. What reasonable scientific investigation would ever consider such a path? We are dealing with out-of-control-psychopaths - this is the only plausible explanation.

Look at who is funding this project. Follow the money, it always leads to the kingpin.

So, I ask again, is the Mass of Humanity ready for this?

[observer]

....observer wanders-off into this desolate landscape looking for conclusive links to the "Follow The Money" Theme....

[Agape]

...and how much did all their corporative lies costed already , how many human lives ..

all you can hear these days is ''how much it costs' , time and money to allow the truth surface , to investigate , research what we have , yes , there'll be more poured to countless empty attempts to fix one technical gadget no matter its calibre while it's 'on course' and the reality of physics and events between this world and another remain abandoned . Vis the other thread ..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77187-Why--are-aliens-so-secretive-&p=904283&viewfull=1#post904283

the amount of conspiracies seems to be enormous but if one asks the same people to evaluate real time data , they claim no time and money , and perhaps 'no expertise' and moreover no 'beliefs' as if beliefs were all they're having .


U-NHJffUIIo


The Purusha Suktam - said to be one of the core cosmological hymns of the Vedas ,

http://www.greenmesg.org/mantras_slokas/vedas-purusha_suktam.php

with the 'ultimate order' of Universe being hidden in the verses

with multi-leveled meaning to them .


The sutra explains not only the ;right order' of creation but also how at the pinnacle of the process the priests ( read , todays 'scientists' ) offered the truth ( of physical reality ) to the sacrificial fire ( the power of transformative capacity of energy ) and thus .. as result of the correctly performed sacrifice obtained 'immortality' .


Yajnyena Yajnyam-Ayajanta Devaas-Taani Dharmaanni Prathamaanya[i-A]asan |
Te Ha Naakam Mahimaanah Sa-Canta Yatra Puurve Saadhyaah Santi Devaah ||16||



This way the ancient seers pointed out to the existence of such transformative energy of the highest order that can ultimately reverse natural decay of elements and make the seemingly impossibly to happen .. restart of creative resonance ... ;)

All depending of course , on the correct understanding of the order ... physical laws .


The truth have been kept so well hidden that it needs to be rediscovered ... each time I suppose . Before they come to that threshold and either they burry it again or ..

what survives is the memory , collective memory and the warning .

[gripreaper]

....observer wanders-off into this desolate landscape looking for conclusive links to the "Follow The Money" Theme....

Ha, the quintessential rabbit hole with no bottom, eh?

Well, let's have a little fun with this, some of it what we know, and most of it abject speculation! Pre-911. the day before actually, Rumsfeld announces to Congress that they can't account for 2.3 trillion for the current fiscal year, and then... KABOOM! Whoopsie daisy, the evidence is tragically lost on 9-11, and therefore cannot be audited. Who could have imagined that the very next day, some rogue terrorists would fly planes into buildings! No one ever imagined that before, right? What a coincidence!

But that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to rogue financing, accounting shenanigans, and covert economies. You can't just go up to a bankster and say, hey buddy, we need about 8 to 10 trillion a year to fund our secret space program, and we will need to funnel quite a bit of this into the global surface economies so that we can get the slaves to build stuff for us, and we need to do this unnoticed. You can't just put up your stellar craft you use to fly to Mars, as collateral, and balance the books. There really are no books.

Yet, having studied how negotiable instruments work and how they are granted and how they enter commerce, I have some idea. For example, if you want a house, you "grant" a negotiable instrument to the bank via your signature, which gives it life, and that promissory note becomes a draft which is deposited into an account as a credit, where it becomes money, and the opposite side of the ledger needs to show a liability against that credit in order for the books to balance. This new money is set up with usury, a maturity date, and is tracked via CUSIP# Federal Reserve databases, until it's eventual expiration and retirement.

So, if you want to generate trillions out of thin air, the ability for the surface economy to absorb these dollars is limited, so you must extract them from the surface economy as well, and retire them, while robbing the surface economy of it's resources to fund your operations. It's quite elaborate, yet the "balance" on the surface ledger, or the "offset" as it is often called, is a derivatives bubble that is ten times the gross GDP of the entire planet. This gives you some idea of the massiveness of this gargantuan underground hole of money disappearing, and what we are left with on the surface, nothing but hot air in a derivatives bubble.

But, that is still not enough. One must extract from this economy, through drugs, the courts and prison system, and through all manner of wars, imperialistic confiscation of resources, and debt, in order to indenture an entire planet to build your covert "Breakaway" agenda.

I would estimate that the dollar amounts are in excess of 10 trillion a year, for a total in excess of 10 quadrillion. Kind of hard to absorb all of that or to hide it, which is why some of the ancient families who's heritage spans thousands of years, are not happy with the rape and pillage by these alien interlopers.

How we deal with it, in my humble opinion, is to load them up in their spaceships, exile them from ever returning to earth, have a global debt jubilee, release the free energy technology, get rid of all the institutions and lies holding the current paradigm in place, and start over in a new age of sovereignty.

Pretty radical, I know, but redressing the emperor in new clothes and parading him out into the square with the idea that he is all brand new, wont fly this time, I hope.

[observer]

....observer wanders-off into this desolate landscape looking for conclusive links to the "Follow The Money" Theme....

Thanks once again, grip, for chiming-in.

I wrote that comment #26 with the hope in my heart someone, with your financial acumen, would come forward and offer some explanation to an extremely complex issue - that of the Trail of Money.

What I know about the International Banking Network - excluding the footprint of these reptile priest-cult bankers into antiquity - would begin with those international bankers who financed the Third Reich.


After the Nazis raped Europe of unimaginable wealth, and around the fall of Hitler, Martin Bormann spirited a good portion of this booty away, most likely to a diversity of locations.
When Prince Bernhard, a known Nazi Operative, convened the first Bilderberg Group meeting he did it to pawn-off the Nazi booty to the international bankers at Bormann's direction. The Bilderberg Group is membered exclusively by agents of the International Banking Network. Currently, all the members are under the spell of the hyperdimensional Reptoids in charge.(#)
As that Nazi wealth strengthened the power of specific international banking networks, those banks continued their centuries-long agenda to intensify their control of economies, politics, media, militaries, etc. to the conclusion grip has outlined in his comment #28 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=904482&viewfull=1#post904482).
In the end, the bankers got just what they paid for.
It is this occult trail of finance that has been used to fund this Break-Away Civilization we are investigating, here.


The combination of both these explanations is a "nut shell" synopsis of the Trail of Money.

(#) Dare I mention the Reptoids

[heyokah]

Time to :bump: this thread, as it con-CERN-s us all.





How we deal with it, in my humble opinion, is to load them up in their spaceships, exile them from ever returning to earth, have a global debt jubilee, release the free energy technology, get rid of all the institutions and lies holding the current paradigm in place, and start over in a new age of sovereignty.

No problem, I could do that.

http://i58.tinypic.com/n3q6x1.jpg

[heyokah]

Being a pragmatic woman, I will give some background info about CERN and LHC, for the members that haven't given themselves the time to get into this.

The Large Hadron Collider is the largest and most complex scientific instrument ever built and the highest energy particle accelerator in the world.
The accelerator is located 100 m underground and runs through both French and Swiss territory. ( 27km circumference)

This video gives a good impression about how the LHC works.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQNpucos9wc?list=FLnA_0vPd_7VbtO23gQiXY_g

- In 1952, eleven European countries came together to form the European Council for Nuclear Research (Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire in French, which gave it the acronym CERN).
Two years later in 1954 it was renamed the European Organization for Nuclear Research, which would've given it the French name of Organisation Européenne pour la Recherche Nucléaire or the acronym OERN). Nobody liked "OERN", so the acronym CERN stuck.

- The World Wide Web was started by CERN employees Sir Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailliau before this whole LHC business got started.

- The Large Hadron Collider is nearly 40 years in the making/repairing and costs the member countries of CERN and other participating countries an estimated €4.6 billion (about US$ 6.4 billion).
Extra things like detectors, computing capacity, and extra 'warranty' cost an extra €1.43 billion.
It's estimated that the yearly energy cost of running the LHC is €19 million.

- To prepare for the deluge of data, CERN built the Worldwide LHC Computing Grid - sort of a super-fast, private Internet connecting some 80,000 computers to analyze the data

- After the shutdown in February 2013, the LHC will be operating at much higher beam energy when it restarts in April 2015.

So far, the LHC has run at 8 TeV (tera electron Volts). That’s the “E” (Energy). During this next run, the “E” will be 13 TeV.

If CERN was able to uncover the elusive Higgs boson in 2012 with only half the energy its Large Hadron Collider is capable of, why does it need so much more energy for its next set of experiments?

[Operator]

I admit to being puzzled to how CERN managed to convince EU governments to supply large sums of money from organizations which probably employ people without any basic physics knowledge, and the science would have gone right over their heads, yet they still paid up. It must have been one hell of a Powerpoint presentation!

While we on the subject of CERN, didn't Simon Parkes say last year that some alien group had to build an even bigger one by 2015? That's next year!

This seems an odd thing for Simon to say as it's not something you could hide the construction of in Europe. As the the first one took about five years to build, it would take at least that long to build a bigger one. Has it been started yet? Does anyone know anyone who is involved with its construction? Have they managed to smuggle in the atomic-powered tunnelling machines? Even if they have, where are the lorry loads of construction materials and technical equipment? Where is the evidence?

Nick

Good point ...
I thought I'd read something about a new collider in Japan but can't find it anymore.

However, my search revealed something else that I didn't know before.

Just type in "new collider 2015" in Google and you will find dozens of article like the one below.



The Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the largest and most powerful particle accelerator in the world, has started to get ready for its second three-year run. Cool down of the vast machine has already begun in preparation for research to resume early in 2015 following a long technical stop to prepare the machine for running at almost double the energy of run 1. The last LHC magnet interconnection was closed on 18 June 2014 and one sector of 1/8 of the machine has already been cooled to operating temperature. The accelerator chain that supplies the LHC’s particle beams is currently starting up, with beam in the Proton Synchrotron accelerator last Wednesday for the first time since 2012.
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More at: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2014/06/cern-announces-lhc-restart-schedule

http://home.web.cern.ch/sites/home.web.cern.ch/files/styles/medium/public/image/update-for_the_public/2014/06/lhc.jpg?itok=aN_1NNAB
The Large Hadron Collider is being prepared for its second three-year run (Image: CERN)

[heyokah]

I admit to being puzzled to how CERN managed to convince EU governments to supply large sums of money from organizations which probably employ people without any basic physics knowledge, and the science would have gone right over their heads, yet they still paid up. It must have been one hell of a Powerpoint presentation!

While we on the subject of CERN, didn't Simon Parkes say last year that some alien group had to build an even bigger one by 2015? That's next year!

This seems an odd thing for Simon to say as it's not something you could hide the construction of in Europe. As the the first one took about five years to build, it would take at least that long to build a bigger one. Has it been started yet? Does anyone know anyone who is involved with its construction? Have they managed to smuggle in the atomic-powered tunnelling machines? Even if they have, where are the lorry loads of construction materials and technical equipment? Where is the evidence?

Nick

Good point ...
I thought I'd read something about a new collider in Japan but can't find it anymore.

However, my search revealed something else that I didn't know before.

Just type in "new collider 2015" in Google and you will find dozens of article like the one below.



The Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the largest and most powerful particle accelerator in the world, has started to get ready for its second three-year run. Cool down of the vast machine has already begun in preparation for research to resume early in 2015 following a long technical stop to prepare the machine for running at almost double the energy of run 1. The last LHC magnet interconnection was closed on 18 June 2014 and one sector of 1/8 of the machine has already been cooled to operating temperature. The accelerator chain that supplies the LHC’s particle beams is currently starting up, with beam in the Proton Synchrotron accelerator last Wednesday for the first time since 2012.
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More at: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2014/06/cern-announces-lhc-restart-schedule

http://home.web.cern.ch/sites/home.web.cern.ch/files/styles/medium/public/image/update-for_the_public/2014/06/lhc.jpg?itok=aN_1NNAB
The Large Hadron Collider is being prepared for its second three-year run (Image: CERN)

Have a look at this article.

"Some of the world's greatest minds have collided in Vancouver and agreed to build a new US$7.78-billion particle collider that will help answer some of the universe's deepest secrets."

Japan is mentioned.

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/physicists-team-up-in-vancouver-to-build-particle-collider-1.1166978#ixzz3Ju5vQw3Z

UPDATE

And here's even more about Japan.


....the International Linear Collider (a large collider that is currently being built in Japan and is expected to pick up where the LHC left off),

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/the-possible-successor-to-the-lhc-meet-the-very-large-hadron-collider/

[Operator]

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Yep, the 666 makes it sinister to say the least.

I never thought that much about the Shiva character but the way it is portrayed above stimulates all kind of thoughts:

- a character stepping through a star gate
- the outer circle looks like a sun or ... star
- the multiple arms remind of the 'spokes' in Nostradamus' drawings

Add that to other provoking thoughts about the sun (star):
- the sun is electrical in nature not nuclear
- the corona is hotter than the surface
- The sun has no body, it's just a corona
(that's mind boggling because then what creates its mass?)

A big wow for me if this all would be true !

[Operator]

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And here's even more about Japan.


(a large collider that is currently being built in Japan and is expected to pick up where the LHC left off),

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/the-possible-successor-to-the-lhc-meet-the-very-large-hadron-collider/

Somebody mentioned Atlantis in this thread ... isn't there a prophecy/prediction that Japan will sink in the sea too? :eyebrows:

[observer]

Why don't we all make believe we are a group of geniuses, convened in a think-tank, hired by the Global Elite Bankers, and run a War Game Scenario on what we believe is happening here.

For an example:

Why does the Mass of Humanity need all these LHCs, and VLHCs?
What possible purpose could punching all those holes into the fabric of the Space/Time Continuum serve?
And, most importantly, Cui Bono - to whose benefit?

Best answer wins a shot at grabbing the golden ring....

[heyokah]

Why don't we all make believe we are a group of geniuses, convened in a think-tank, hired by the Global Elite Bankers, and run a War Game Scenario on what we believe is happening here.

For an example:

Why does the Mass of Humanity need all these LHCs, and VLHCs?
What possible purpose could punching all those holes into the fabric of the Space/Time Continuum serve?
And, most importantly, Cui Bono - to whose benefit?

Best answer wins a shot at grabbing the golden ring....

OK, let's call our group WWBHH (What We Believe is Happening Here), just as creative as those scientists with their VLHC.
As was said in the link (http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/the-possible-successor-to-the-lhc-meet-the-very-large-hadron-collider/)I gave:


What clever name did scientists come up with for this new collider? The Very Large Hadron Collider (VLHC). Let the wittiness of that name wash over you.

[genevieve]

Here's a different slant on CERN from Andrew Bartzis, the Galactic Historian.

In this 8-minute recording he states, among other things:

- It's a dimensional teleport system to import a belief system that has an AI behind it and is linked to the dreaming mind of another planet.

- It's meant to make you believe that reality functions differently.

- It broadcasts belief systems around the galaxy and is a tool for domination and control on Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJsD762UM00&index=5&list=PLMNO_ps0CHd4OgyQ6xFy6oZU17BdyPXsP


I've been listening to his broadcasts for 8 months and find him and his info fascinating, but sometimes, as in the case of this info about CERN, I can barely wrap my mind around it and would be glad for any help in understanding what he's saying. Anyone?


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

While you are discussing Japan, please read about "Stein's Gate" --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steins;Gate

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bb/Steins_gate_xbox360.jpg/230px-Steins_gate_xbox360.jpg


Steins;Gate takes place in the Akihabara district of Tokyo. On July 28, 2010, Rintarō Okabe and his friend Mayuri Shiina head towards the Radio Kaikan building for a conference, where Rintarō finds a girl named Kurisu Makise lying in a pool of blood.[35] As Rintarō sends a text message about the incident to his friend, Itaru "Daru" Hashida, he experiences a strange phenomenon and the people around him disappear, with no-one else noticing anything had changed.[36] After later running into Kurisu, who is strangely alive and well, and discovering the message he had sent to Itaru had arrived a week before he sent it,[37][38] Rintarō soon deduces that the 'Mobile Microwave' he and his friends had been developing is, in fact, a time machine capable of sending text messages to the past.[16][39] He and his friends soon learn that SERN, an organization that has been researching time travel for some time, has actually succeeded in sending humans into the past although they seem to have all resulted in the test subjects' deaths. Rintarō begins experimenting with "D-Mails" (Dメール D mēru?, short for DeLorean mail), which begin to cause major differences in the timeline. Kurisu also manages to create a device to send a person's memories through the microwave, allowing that person to effectively leap into the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Rift

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echthroi


A personification of the forces of impersonalization and nihilism,[2] they exist in both the macrocosmic and microcosmic level, counteracted principally by what L'Engle refers to as "Naming"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_and_Reality

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

http://www.icr.org/meaning-in-life/

Humans in particular seek a "reason to exist" and for the most part find it difficult to accept that we are simply here to consume the earth's resources and die.

[Harley]

Hi Folks,

Just to add a little more food for thought to this thread:

Because of a few of the theories commented upon here, there is an article I posted four years ago which seemed to go largely unnoticed at the time but may be of a little more interest now in this thread.


US To Strap Anti-Matter, Anti-Universe Detector To ISS (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5477-US-To-Strap-Anti-Matter-Anti-Universe-Detector-To-ISS&p=50360&viewfull=1#post50360)

Excerpts (Highlights are mine):

* ISS Searches For Dark Matter, Anti-Universe

* The Alpha Magnetics Spectrometer will be taken aboard the last US space shuttle flight to the ISS in February

* THE US Air Force has taken delivery of a $2 billion antimatter detector destined to catch the last scheduled space shuttle flight in February 2011.

* The Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer would be docked to the International Space Station to collect evidence of antimatter, dark matter and other phenomena over the next 20 years.

* The AMS detector will complement CERN's Large Hadron Collider

* Antimatter, which the device was primarily designed to find, is sometimes referred to as the evil twin of ordinary matter and scientists believe the Big Bang created both in equal amounts - meaning that, in theory, there should be an identical universe to ours out there made entirely of antimatter.

* The Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer, which took about 15 years to build and was part-funded by the US Department of Energy, will be one of two payloads carried to the space station on Endeavour STS-134, NASA's last shuttle mission scheduled for February 26, 2011.


And now, let's go from really big to really small:

The World’s Most Advanced Particle Accelerator Is Just 12 Inches Long And Sits On A Lab Bench In The US

EXTREMETECH (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/193725-the-worlds-most-advanced-particle-accelerator-is-just-12-inches-long-and-sits-on-a-lab-bench-in-the-us)
November 6, 2014

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/slac-plasma-wakefield-accelerator1-640x424.jpg

“Go big or go home” might be the unofficial motto of the United States — but in the case of the world’s newest and most advanced particle accelerator, that’s certainly not the case. The new plasma wakefield accelerator, constructed at the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory in California, is just 12 inches long — or about 90,000 times smaller than CERN’s 17-mile-long Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland.

As you probably know, particle accelerators are usually very large. It’s not that we want to spend billions of dollars boring out a 17-mile tunnel deep underground (or even longer, in the case of some new accelerators that are being considered at the moment). It’s not like we choose to spend billions more creating a vacuum tube in that tunnel, wrapping it in superconducting electromagnets, and cryogenically freezing the whole thing. It’s just that, until now, that was the only way we knew how to reliably accelerate protons and electrons to close to the speed of light.

epQnJiJWjdg

According to SLAC, there’s another method of particle acceleration that’s much more efficient, and can thus be used to build massive accelerators that are orders of magnitude more powerful — or alternatively, much smaller, lab-sized accelerators. The technology is called plasma wakefield acceleration — and, despite how awesomely complex it sounds, it’s actually fairly self-explanatory.

Basically, instead of a big vacuum tube, you have a container filled with plasma — usually a super-heated, very diluted gas (such as hydrogen). Then, y pulsing a laser, you can create a bunch of ionized electrons that travel through the plasma — and then you pulse the laser again to produce another bunch, which gathers energy from the wake of the first bunch… and so on, until you have a powerful particle accelerator. [Research paper: doi:10.1038/nature13882 (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v515/n7525/full/nature13882.html)]

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/plasma-wakefield-accelerator-diagram-640x478.jpg

[Sierra]

• The location of the LHC structure itself oddly crosses the borders of France and Switzerland several times. Whatever treaty was involved in approving this location was fast-tracked through both – and many other - parliaments. Why this place? What was so barking special about the location that there were no (typically) decades-long diplomatic cavils and conferences?

• Why did everyone sign onto this so totally?

Like many of you, I’d like some good answers. We are being lied to, as usual.

Regards,

Selene

I wonder if location *is* important. Carmody talks about ley lines and locations working as portals only at certain planetary configurations, which open and close energies available to use.

Perhaps certain planetary configuration energies necessary to the 2015 HLC project coming up, become available only at the French-Swiss location?

Sierra

[Selene]

Yes, I'm convinced that location.location.location matters a great deal here.

We do know that the earth has powerful fields, and that ley lines act like “energy arteries” linking the planet’s “nervous system”.

We also know that so-called natural stargates exist throughout the planet in locations that have been known – some of them – for millennia: the Great Pyramid, Abydos, perhaps Stonhenge and Avebury, among many others.

These natural stargates open and close, energize or go dormant – apparently – at certain times/places in space as our solar system rotates within our galaxy, and our galaxy rotates through the universe.

My reason for raising some suspicions about the peculiar location of the CERN ring is precisely that: Perhaps “someone” knows “something” about an ancient stargate of some significance that may become active within our present timeline. And “they” are hoping to piggyback on the energy of that particular stargate by activating the CERN ring there.

Because, remember, the first three laws of extradimensional physics are:

1. Rotation
2. Rotation
3. Rotation

And what does the CERN track cause particles to do?

1. Spin
2. Spin
3. Spin


My personal wild-ass guess here is that the CERN project is intended to somehow enhance or strengthen a natural stargate enough to vault this entire planet into some kind of alternate reality/timeline/universe.

Regards,

Selene


I wonder if location *is* important. Carmody talks about ley lines and locations working as portals only at certain planetary configurations, which open and close energies available to use.

Perhaps certain planetary configuration energies necessary to the 2015 HLC project coming up, become available only at the French-Swiss location?

[observer]

Thank you Harley for your contribution,




US To Strap Anti-Matter, Anti-Universe Detector To ISS (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5477-US-To-Strap-Anti-Matter-Anti-Universe-Detector-To-ISS&p=50360&viewfull=1#post50360)

Excerpts (Highlights are mine):

* ISS Searches For Dark Matter, Anti-Universe

* The Alpha Magnetics Spectrometer will be taken aboard the last US space shuttle flight to the ISS in February

* THE US Air Force has taken delivery of a $2 billion antimatter detector destined to catch the last scheduled space shuttle flight in February 2011.

* The Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer would be docked to the International Space Station to collect evidence of antimatter, dark matter and other phenomena over the next 20 years.

* The AMS detector will complement CERN's Large Hadron Collider

* Antimatter, which the device was primarily designed to find, is sometimes referred to as the evil twin of ordinary matter and scientists believe the Big Bang created both in equal amounts - meaning that, in theory, there should be an identical universe to ours out there made entirely of antimatter.

* The Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer, which took about 15 years to build and was part-funded by the US Department of Energy, will be one of two payloads carried to the space station on Endeavour STS-134, NASA's last shuttle mission scheduled for February 26, 2011.

Interesting stuff Harley, and I quote it to underscore the point; the Dark Matter Hypothesis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKYvUtpJXA&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeYFyfm2LilZldjJd48t6IY&index=1) is another creation of Main Stream Physics to explain something that never happened, i.e. The Big Bang.

We exist in an Electric Universe. Plasma Physicists document clouds of plasma spanning billions of light-years throughout the universe. Plasma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)), the fourth state of matter, can only exist in an electro-magnetic field. The Universe didn't start with a Big Bang, and there's no such thing as Dark Matter. It's all a smoke-screen to conceal something much more sinister.



And now, let's go from really big to really small:

The World’s Most Advanced Particle Accelerator Is Just 12 Inches Long And Sits On A Lab Bench In The US

EXTREMETECH (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/193725-the-worlds-most-advanced-particle-accelerator-is-just-12-inches-long-and-sits-on-a-lab-bench-in-the-us)
November 6, 2014

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/slac-plasma-wakefield-accelerator1-640x424.jpg

“Go big or go home” might be the unofficial motto of the United States — but in the case of the world’s newest and most advanced particle accelerator, that’s certainly not the case. The new plasma wakefield accelerator, constructed at the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory in California, is just 12 inches long — or about 90,000 times smaller than CERN’s 17-mile-long Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland.

As you probably know, particle accelerators are usually very large. It’s not that we want to spend billions of dollars boring out a 17-mile tunnel deep underground (or even longer, in the case of some new accelerators that are being considered at the moment). It’s not like we choose to spend billions more creating a vacuum tube in that tunnel, wrapping it in superconducting electromagnets, and cryogenically freezing the whole thing. It’s just that, until now, that was the only way we knew how to reliably accelerate protons and electrons to close to the speed of light.

epQnJiJWjdg

According to SLAC, there’s another method of particle acceleration that’s much more efficient, and can thus be used to build massive accelerators that are orders of magnitude more powerful — or alternatively, much smaller, lab-sized accelerators. The technology is called plasma wakefield acceleration — and, despite how awesomely complex it sounds, it’s actually fairly self-explanatory.

Basically, instead of a big vacuum tube, you have a container filled with plasma — usually a super-heated, very diluted gas (such as hydrogen). Then, y pulsing a laser, you can create a bunch of ionized electrons that travel through the plasma — and then you pulse the laser again to produce another bunch, which gathers energy from the wake of the first bunch… and so on, until you have a powerful particle accelerator. [Research paper: doi:10.1038/nature13882 (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v515/n7525/full/nature13882.html)]

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/plasma-wakefield-accelerator-diagram-640x478.jpg

Throughout the text regarding the particle accelerator, and especially in the video about the SLAC particle accelerator, the physicists kept referring to what they were working with as a "wave".

From Quantum Physics we learn that matter does not exist in particle form until it is observed, ostensibly by the brain, however, it also appears the simple act of sensitive measuring equipment also converts wave form energy into particles.

So, the question haunts me, just exactly what form of energy are these Quantum Physicist accelerating to near speeds of light and slamming into itself? Is it wave forms or matter? It would appear the folks at SLAC (from the video) consider it to be wave form energy.

I also have a need to understand: with an abundance of Large Hadron Colliders, already on the planet - there are several other smaller ones at some of the leading universities, and several other larger ones on the planning table - why do we need even more? And, how about these miniature models now available from SLAC?

Just how many holes do we need to punch into the space-time continuum?

With the question of wave form energy v. particle energy alone, there is a serious question of what they are really doing at CERN.

It appears to me a thinly veiled deception for a much greater objective.

Research Resources:
Thunderbolts Project -
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvHqXK_Hz79tjqRosK4tWYA

Thunderbolts of the Gods -Full Movie -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUA7XS0TvA&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UfvhvcT1lZA6KbSdh0K2EpH&index=4
(an excellent primer on understanding the Electric Universe Model)


*** Who among the members knows more about what they are really doing at CERN, and which of those members is willing to come forward and contribute to this thread?

[observer]

Yes, I'm convinced that location.location.location matters a great deal here.

We do know that the earth has powerful fields, and that ley lines act like “energy arteries” linking the planet’s “nervous system”.

We also know that so-called natural stargates exist throughout the planet in locations that have been known – some of them – for millennia: the Great Pyramid, Abydos, perhaps Stonhenge and Avebury, among many others.

These natural stargates open and close, energize or go dormant – apparently – at certain times/places in space as our solar system rotates within our galaxy, and our galaxy rotates through the universe.

My reason for raising some suspicions about the peculiar location of the CERN ring is precisely that: Perhaps “someone” knows “something” about an ancient stargate of some significance that may become active within our present timeline. And “they” are hoping to piggyback on the energy of that particular stargate by activating the CERN ring there.

Because, remember, the first three laws of extradimensional physics are:

1. Rotation
2. Rotation
3. Rotation

And what does the CERN track cause particles to do?

1. Spin
2. Spin
3. Spin


My personal wild-ass guess here is that the CERN project is intended to somehow enhance or strengthen a natural stargate enough to vault this entire planet into some kind of alternate reality/timeline/universe.

Regards,

Selene


I wonder if location *is* important. Carmody talks about ley lines and locations working as portals only at certain planetary configurations, which open and close energies available to use.

Perhaps certain planetary configuration energies necessary to the 2015 HLC project coming up, become available only at the French-Swiss location?

To both Sierra, and Selene,

Absolutely, location is the first critical element.

Manipulating torsion physics at specific grid locations is the only way to effect the grid.

Since there are those who believe the grid is in place to confine, the only way to break-out is to punch holes into the grid using torsion physics.

This is my interpretation and goes a long way in demonstrating an understanding of the Matrix of Control. Just as Humanity is trapped in a matrix, so to are the controllers trapped in a matrix - as above, so below.

For the Controllers, these Large Hadron Colliders are a step in breaking-out of this 3-d confinement vessel.

Greater understanding into the grid can be obtained from Dr. Joseph Farrell's work. I couldn't find a free online copy, but here is a place to start:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11175865-grid-of-the-gods

[Selene]

To both Sierra, and Selene,

Absolutely, location is the first critical element.

Manipulating torsion physics at specific grid locations is the only way to effect the grid.

Since there are those who believe the grid is in place to confine, the only way to break-out is to punch holes into the grid using torsion physics.

This is my interpretation and goes a long way in demonstrating an understanding of the Matrix of Control. Just as Humanity is trapped in a matrix, so to are the controllers trapped in a matrix - as above, so below.

These Large Hadron Colliders are a step in breaking-out of this 3-d confinement vessel.

Greater understanding into the grid can be obtained from Dr. Joseph Farrell's work. I couldn't find a free online copy, but here is a place to start:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11175865-grid-of-the-gods

Well, that's the Zillion Dollar question, isn't it?

Are we breaking out - or further in?

Given the Establishment route used to fund/promote CERN, I'd have to guess the project isn't exactly a rebel outpost....

Damn. But my own opinion.

Regards,

Selene

[observer]

To both Sierra, and Selene,

Absolutely, location is the first critical element.


Manipulating torsion physics at specific grid locations is the only way to effect the grid.

Since there are those who believe the grid is in place to confine, the only way to break-out is to punch holes into the grid using torsion physics.

This is my interpretation and goes a long way in demonstrating an understanding of the Matrix of Control. Just as Humanity is trapped in a matrix, so to are the controllers trapped in a matrix - as above, so below.

These Large Hadron Colliders are a step in breaking-out of this 3-d confinement vessel.

Greater understanding into the grid can be obtained from Dr. Joseph Farrell's work. I couldn't find a free online copy, but here is a place to start:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11175865-grid-of-the-gods

Well, that's the Zillion Dollar question, isn't it?

Are we breaking out - or further in?

Given the Establishment route used to fund/promote CERN, I'd have to guess the project isn't exactly a rebel outpost....

Damn. But my own opinion.

Regards,

Selene

Please don't misunderstand my words, Selene.

I wasn't suggesting the "break-out" was being orchestrated by Rebel Humans, rather the break-out is being driven by the Forces behind the Break-Away Civilization - who would be considered "Rebels" in the Cosmic-Multiverse Sense of what would be considered "Rebels".

Those who have been referred to as "The Fallen", throughout most mythologies from antiquity, are the same Forces behind the Break-Away civilization seeking an exit from the confinement of the Third Dimension.

I am suggesting the Break-Out must - for some unknown reason - start here with Humanity, or at least a specific element of Humanity. I would suggest, "As Above, So Below", is a good place to start with the explanation.

[Selene]

Thank you for clarifying your views further, Observer.

The entire question indeed grows in complexity. Much to contemplate here.

Cheers and best regards,

Selene

[heyokah]

Found this interesting article in which was referred to the location of CERN, Geneva and connections to events in other parts of the world.

CERN: THE MAYAN DOPPELGÄNGER

http://www.groundzeromedia.org/cern-the-mayan-doppelganger/

"There has been an ongoing conspiratorial dialogue about what really is going on at CERN and what the purpose of this collider really is. Is it a high powered dimensional tool to create star gates to welcome entities into the world and could the attempts at going such a thing destroy the earth?

The LHC at CERN is a particle booster, built to beam up protons in very high speed and opposite directions, until they collide creating a huge amount of energy capable to reproduce similar cosmic conditions that have creating such phenomena as dark matter, antimatter and ultimately the creation of the universe billions of years ago. It has also been rumored to be a device that can bend space time, open dimensional portals. Now anything is possible and anything the mind can conceive can appear in the material world as we bend the time line."

Part of the article

................

Once again it has to be indicated that CERN is located in Geneva. Geneva and “Saint Geniis” are similar to the word “Genesis.” The purpose of CERN is to find the Origins of Man and the Universe. They have stated that they want to open a doorway to another dimension and find a God. Is it just a coincidence that CERN is short for the horned God Cernunnos? Is it also a coincidence that CERN has to go deep underground to do their “god” harnessing experiments? Cernunnos was the god of the underworld.

CERN is linked to several secret projects being carried out by the European Union and the European Trilateral Commission. CERN also is responsible for the internet and have been doing ongoing research for governments with regard to global sustainability.

It was also reported that in 1999 CERN proposed and carried out quantum Vortex experiments searching for Solar Axions. Axions are hypothetical particles that are components of dark matter. In order to find these Axions CERN proposed the use of a decommissioned magnet called SATAN
.
It was an acronym for Solar Axion Telescopic Antenna
.
One of the attempts at creating a portal anchor happened in an area where there is rumored to be an ancient Stargate in the real ancient Babylon, Iraq.

On September 8th, 2008 something happened in the Iraqi city of Al Hilla. Al Hilla has been rumored to be a city where a Stargate exists. It was reported that there was a cover up where nearly 20 American troops died as they attempted to cross through a gate conduit between the Collider at CERN and one of the anchor gates at Al Hilla. According the mainstream news reports the soldiers committed mass suicide.

However one of the peculiarities reported in Fars News agency was that Iraqi security sources reported that 21 US troops had committed suicide inside a former Iraqi air force base, the 21 troops were treated in a hospital but only five soldiers survived and wound up missing. Narcotics were allegedly used in the suicides
.
The servicemen belonged to a unit of the US Airborne Division. The question is how did so many soldiers have access to potent narcotics and what happened to the five survivors?

A witness reported that the bodies of the US troops were hideously deformed and misshapen in such a way that they looked like 5000-year old mummies
.
On September 11th, 2008 it was reported that the collider officially went online on September 10th. with a test firing.

The press reported that nothing significant happened and there was no danger and no end of the world However A strong earthquake measuring 6.1 in magnitude struck southern Iran.

Then it was reported that Northern Chile was struck with a 6.0 tremor. Then a magnitude 6.9 earthquake rattled Japan and then within minutes of a magnitude 6.6 earthquakes hit Indonesia.

The collider wasn’t even at full power.

On December 8th, 2009 CERN’s collider was still not up to full power however thousands of physicists around the world cheered as they smashed together subatomic particles at the highest energies ever reached by a human-made accelerator and the giant ATLAS detector observed the products of the record-breaking reactions whizzing through its sophisticated tracking devices
.
Coincidentally a strange spiral appeared over Norway early before sunrise. The light looked like a portal spiraling into a black hole. The buzz about this spiral and it’s comparison to a wormhole opening up was viral on the internet and later it was discovered that a Communiqué linking HAARP CERN and The Norwegian array EISCAT was released making the wormhole explanation compelling.

I will be the first to admit that this is not hard science or pseudo science, it the new normal for a planet that seems to be the battered partner and the response is the shaking, the sounds of underground creaking and pushing and many thunderous rumbles and explosions deep within the earth’s crust.

A large ring encircles the area near CERN. It has the circumference of about 27 kilometers and inside it are 9300 magnets. Could this be displacing magma inside the earth? Someone needs to ask the question. The collider is a scientific machine that no one questions and yet it seems to be a monster that when lit has started creating these maga-quakes, tsunamis and disasters.

During 2010 and 2011 the LHC increased the potency and number of quarks it collides in its experiments. What CERN does not tell us is that with this intensity come consequences. The attempts at finding the God particle over the years has resulted in greater quantities of atoms of strangelet liquid, called hyperons, made of up, down and strange quarks even when running at low energies, despite all their safety reports that said it would never produce them.

We are told that they would evaporate or become inconsequential. Stranglets leaking into the earth’s core can and will create an increase of earthquake and volcanic activity.

Even the prophet Nostradamus apparently had warned us about something deadly coming from Geneva when he wrote in Century 9 Quatrain 44:
“Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you, Saturn (Satan) will be converted from gold to iron, RAYPOZ will exterminate all who oppose him, Before the coming the sky will show signs.”

Many people have tried to interpret he word RAYPOZ as being the name of the antichrist. But, as you can see, CERN has used Saturn/Satan or Cernunnos as a ray-based positron source.

The authorities at CERN have done their ritualistic experiments in the underworld and has used unlimited power to turn against the earth. This power has shown that it is causing an increase in earthquake activity and some even claim that it may be the reason for an increase of UFO activity as well.
............................

[Christine]

Thank you Selene,

I have been looking for a free moment to post on this thread. All I can say is Yes, yes and yes!

When I first heard about LHC in Cern I felt nauseous and highly agitated, that was years ago when the project was initiated (we assume). Since then my inner body has tracked it.. all senses on high alert. When I started to spontaneously remote view I was drawn to look into the LHC.. there is from what I can tell an ancient off world technology being utilized in conjunction. Devices of a "consciousness" container type that are "living" and programable .. weird material that I have found several times now.

It seems there was a plan to launch the collider in conjunction with other "devices" late last year, this was thwarted as the computer system could not line up all the magnetics, there was a benevolent intent involved in this. (I am reporting from a direct remote viewing so have no proof). They had to shut it down because it was dangerously close to provoking some thing catastrophic, therefore the intervention.

I have strong intuitive knowing that keeps telling me that the intent is as you state below, more like keeping the earth in the timeline they want. Playing god they insist.

Not sure if it is a stargate or a wormhole but definitely a forced entry or exit, whatever the case may be.



My personal wild-ass guess here is that the CERN project is intended to somehow enhance or strengthen a natural stargate enough to vault this entire planet into some kind of alternate reality/timeline/universe.

Regards,

Selene


I wonder if location *is* important. Carmody talks about ley lines and locations working as portals only at certain planetary configurations, which open and close energies available to use.

Perhaps certain planetary configuration energies necessary to the 2015 HLC project coming up, become available only at the French-Swiss location?

[observer]

Click-on the forwarding icon to see the content, and find the links within heyokah's comment #48

Thank you heyokah, what you have offered is very much relevant to the official justifications for the experiment at the LHC, and the growing opposition to that official justification.

Allow me to ask, what if the science behind the Official Justification was all flawed? What if there really is no such thing as Dark Matter as the Official Experiment continues to confirm? Therefore, if there is no such thing as Dark Matter, than the entire concept of the Big Bang is flawed. Dark Matter has been theoretically created to prove the theory of a Big Bang.

What if the answer to how the universe was created lies within the scope of Plasma Physics?

When one examines all these "what ifs", one must make the conclusion that the purpose of the LHC at CERN is sinister, and is purposely progressing at train wreck speeds for another, unspoken reason.

Allow me to suggest, the innocent masses have little time to unscramble this puzzle, and extricate themselves from the impending consequences.

[Operator]

Shiva is sometimes also called the destroyer ...
I think that energy can be used in a constructive and destructive way.

You've probably heard the Michio Kaku talk about types/levels of civilization and how they are
able to control the levels of energy etc. I think too that after the discovery of chemical energy
we found atomic energy and each time is stepping up a notch. In the mean time we know how
destructive atomic power can be .... so what's next?

Perhaps improvement of our consciousness should precede discovery of the next level of energy
in order not to destruct this planet? Perhaps we already have more power than we can handle.

B.t.w. Wormholes or Einstein-Rosen bridges are considered to be hypothetical because it takes a
lot of power to create and maintain one. But what if we discover that a source for the required
power exists?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I wanted to thank Christine and Heyokah for being able to condense and present this very startling material a few posts up.

RV and general unease was mentioned. Heyokah's article mentioned the increase in earthquakes and the Norway Spiral.
In fact so much good stuff in one spot (!) that it jogged my memory.

Don't leave out the Neutrino Observatories when factoring the true cost of CERN!

TPTB have a huge and SUDDEN interest in tracking sources (living? dead? lol) of "exotic" radiation.

@@

[observer]

As any of the members who have debated me over the course of my tenure here at Avalon will attest, I'm not a strong believer in subjective testimonies, with the caveat that surely there is validity to such subjective testimonies, however they offer little objective proof in any scientific investigation.

By creating this thread, it was my intention of offering objective evidence to indite the clandestine purpose of what is actually being done at CERN. Only by showing how Mainstream Science is flawed, can one understand how that flawed science is being used as a smoke screen for a much more sinister operation.

With that said, I would like to offer an alternate cosmology based on the best evidence from antiquity - the archeological and historic records.


Allow me to suggest there is not a little man pointing his boney finger from the clouds at Humanity.

Allow me to suggest the entire Electric Universe (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvHqXK_Hz79tjqRosK4tWYA)in which we all dwell is more an expression of the Creative Force, and that every particle of matter which manifests itself from the Field of Infinite Potential (wave form) is a part of the Body of that Creative Force.

Accept the concept that every universe of existence, both seen and unseen, are all a part of the body of that Creative Force.

Allow the suggestion that the complex structure of multiple universes beyond Human perception (the multiverse) is directed by a Council of Ascended Souls, and not by a single Godhead Entity.

Let the record indicate that this particular universe is a place of entrapment, established for the design purpose of containing eternal souls who were, perhaps, found unacceptable to dwell within alternate universes of existence - a place to contain the Fallen (those eternal souls found unacceptable to dwell elsewhere).

Consider also, within the understanding of this alternate cosmology, there is the possibility that eternal souls of a different nature can also be trapped within the matrix of this particular 3-d existence, or may just be traveling-through for one reason or another.

Also, allow one to consider, that there are multiple levels to this particular universe.
A. There is the three dimensional aspect which we shall call "Reality"
B. There is a fourth element, which might be described as a vector to the three
dimensional box, and understood as time - thereby creating what is known as the
space-time continuum.
C. Might I suggest, this fourth element of time is similar to what was known by the ancients
as the Astral, by the New Age Community as the Akashic, and which is also known
by modern quantum physicists as the "Field of Infinite Potential".
D. And may I finely suggest that entities of all sorts are trapped within the confines of the
matrix I've described (above).

Let the record indicate, that within this paradigm that is being described (i.e., this particular reality), there is an Hierarchy of Control that operates from an hyperdimensional perspective - an element that is unseen by humanity. An element that has Controlled the evolution of civilization from this Fourth Vector Realm since the Dawn of Humanity using the alchemy of Ritualistic Magic, and advanced electromagnetic technologies as their tools.

Now, let us consider, this Force behind the smoke-and-mirrors of this particular reality, has had a singular agenda since the creation of homo sapiens, that of building a physical device that will extract them from this matrix which contains them within this paradigm - whether in a physical form, or in some ethereal form.


This is what I would suggest is the purpose of CERN.

This is my personal interpretation of the objective evidence which I have studied from the archeological, and historic records over the course of my lifetime. Every point of this summation can be documented with real evidence found in those records.

Research References:
(Foundational Understanding to the Cosmology being suggested)
"Symbols of an Alien Sky" -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY

[observer]

Wal Thornhill is a plasma physicists. He stands on the cutting edge of creative understanding with regard to what our three dimensional reality actually is all about. The Plasma Physics Model (The Electric Universe) clearly disproves the Gravitational Model used to support the Big Bang Theory. Plasma Physics predicts a totally different conclusion from Gravitational Physics - the model most addressed by Theoretical Physicists and Cosmologists.

Compartmentalization of scientific "disciplines" is a tool of "The Oxford System of Learning". This "Oxford System" has been used by mainstream science since scientific investigation began accelerating. This "Compartmentalization" template is the foundational reason advances in science have been confiscated by the Control Mechanism of the Global Elite, and not used to advance the Mass of Humanity. These are the same Global Elite who are behind the evolution of the Break-Away Civilization, another program in opposition to the Mass of Humanity.

By showing there is no scientific basis for justifying trillions of dollars in research projects designed to prove the Big Bang Theory, it then becomes possible to begin speculating on what the research at the LHC of CERN is really designed to accomplish.

Research Resources -
"Big Bangs, Higgs Bosons & Dark Matter - Sheer lunacy posing as science - idiotic, mindless nonsense "


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVmtrKF0YHE

*** I again call for any member with information regarding what they are actually doing at CERN to please step forward and contribute to this thread.

[heyokah]

snip....

Allow me to ask, what if the science behind the Official Justification was all flawed? What if there really is no such thing as Dark Matter as the Official Experiment continues to confirm? Therefore, if there is no such thing as Dark Matter, than the entire concept of the Big Bang is flawed. Dark Matter has been theoretically created to prove the theory of a Big Bang.

What if the answer to how the universe was created lies within the scope of Plasma Physics?

When one examines all these "what ifs", one must make the conclusion that the purpose of the LHC at CERN is sinister, and is purposely progressing at train wreck speeds for another, unspoken reason.

emphasis Heyokah


Scientists Say Dark Matter Doesn't Exist

Two Canadian astronomers think there is a good reason dark matter, a mysterious substance thought to make up the bulk of matter in the universe, has never been directly detected: It doesn't exist.

Dark matter was invoked to explain how galaxies stick together. The visible matter alone in galaxies—stars, gas and dust—is nowhere near enough to hold them together, so scientists reasoned there must be something invisible that exerts gravity and is central to all galaxies.

Last August, an astronomer at the University of Arizona at Tucson and his colleagues reported that a collision between two huge clusters of galaxies 3 billion light-years away, known as the Bullet Cluster, had caused clouds of dark matter to separate from normal matter.
Many scientists said the observations were proof of dark matter's existence and a serious blow for alternative explanations aiming to do away with dark matter with modified theories of gravity.

Now John Moffat, an astronomer at the University of Waterloo in Canada, and Joel Brownstein, his graduate student, say those announcements were premature.


In a study detailed in the Nov. 21 issue of the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, the pair says their Modified Gravity (MOG) theory can explain the Bullet Cluster observation.
MOG differs from other modified gravity theories in its details, but is similar in that it predict that the force of gravity changes with distance.

"MOG gravity is stronger if you go out from the center of the galaxy than it is in Newtonian gravity," Moffat explained. "The stronger gravity mimics what dark matter does. With dark matter, you take Einstein and Newtonian gravity and you shovel in more dark matter. If there's more matter, you get more gravity. Whereas for me, I say dark matter doesn't exist. It's the gravity that's changed."

Using images of the Bullet Cluster made by the Hubble, Chandra X-ray and Spitzer space telescopes and the Magellan telescope in Chile, the scientists analyzed the way the cluster's gravity bent light from a background galaxy—an effect known as gravity lensing.
The pair concluded that dark matter was not necessary to explain the results.

"Using Modified Gravity theory, the 'normal' matter in the Bullet Cluster is enough to account for the observed gravitational lensing effect," Brownstein said. "Continuing the search for and then analyzing other merging clusters of galaxies will help us decide whether dark matter or MOG theory offers the best explanation for the large scale structure of the universe."

Moffat compares the modern interest with dark matter to the insistence by scientists in the early 20th century on the existence of a "luminiferous ether," a hypothetical substance thought to fill the universe and through which light waves were thought to propagate.

"They saw a glimpse of special relativity, but they weren't willing to give up the ether," Moffat told SPACE.com. "Then Einstein came along and said we don't need the ether. The rest was history."


Douglas Clowe, the lead astronomer of the team that linked the Bullet Cluster observations with dark matter (and now at Ohio University), says he still stands by his original claim.
For him and many other astronomers, conjuring up new particles that might account for dark matter is more palatable than turning a fundamental theory of how the univese works on its head.

"As far as we're concerned, [Moffat] hasn't done anything that makes us retract our earlier statement that the Bullet Cluster shows us that we have to have dark matter," Clowe said. "We're still open to modifying gravity to reduce the amount of dark matter, but we're pretty sure that you have to have most of the mass of the universe still in some form of dark matter."


http://www.space.com/4554-scientists-dark-matter-exist.html

[observer]

Thank you heyokah. The article you presented is just another silly little adjustment to Mainstream Science's assertion that the Universe is held together with gravity and therefore we must consider some new form of gravity since we aren't able to find the elusive Dark Matter that the Gravity Model predicts. This Modified Gravity (MOG) Theory is just another sack of $hit to throw into the ever growing pile of Bull$hit known as Relativity.

There is a known force abundant throughout the Universe that is "a thousand, billion, billion, billion, billion time more powerful than gravity". Charged electrical particles form plasma filaments that span millions of light-years of distance across the universe. Plasma can only exist in an electromagnetic field.

Charged particles account for the missing part of the equation that theoretical physicists insist is the allusive Dark Matter. Dark Matter is only necessary to prove the Gravitational Model.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1xsFdZLdwk

Of course, once you recognize the Electric Model, you must throw-out the Gravitational Model. This changes our understanding of what Stars are, and galaxies, and the center of galaxies - all an interconnected grand electrical event.

Once one throws-away Dark Matter and the Gravitational Model the real reason for pumping trillions of dollars into the research at CERN then needs to have some other justification.

Those behind the Break-Away Civilization would NEVER allow that.

[observer]

Back in September of ’11 (http://news.yahoo.com/strange-particles-may-travel-faster-light-breaking-laws-192010201.html), the scientists at CERN declared they had broken the elusive ‘speed of light barrier’. This should have been paradigm-shifting news. Tom Brokaw, and Peter Jennings should have been all over this story. Yet, what happened? Not a peep from the “Happy-The-Clown-News”. The story got buried.

Why is breaking the speed of light barrier a big story? Because it shatters all relevance to the Theory of Relativity; gravity being the dominant force in the universe; Dark Matter being an yet undiscovered force; the Big Bang ever having occurred. All of these theories are predicated upon the idea that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

Once the Theory of Relativity became a myth, all research at CERN would require some other justification – that just COULD NOT happen.

The REAL reason for the CERN experiment MUST remain a secret.

The research at CERN is alleged to be centered around finding proof, locked within the identification of theoretical particles alleged to exist within sub-atomic structures, to corroborate the Big Bang Theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang).

Identifying these theoretical particles IS the reason for the research, but NOT for proving the Big Bang Theory – that cover story is just a fraud.


In order to actually build a teleportation machine, like the one used in Star Trek, it will first be necessary to identify each and every quantum part of sub-atomic structure – as in the research being conducted at CERN.
Then, it will be necessary to map the location of each of those quantum parts in whatever “body” is being teleported with massive computing power – like in the computing power potential of the World Wide Web - ergo CERN's first accomplishment, creating the Web (http://home.web.cern.ch/topics/birth-web).
Once it is possible to map each quantum part of the body being transported, it will then be necessary to create a portal through which all that information can be sent, i.e. the power available at the center of a galaxy – like in what happens the instant two subatomic particles collide with one another. (see Russian astrophysicist Nicolai Kardashev's theory on a Type 3 Civilization (http://iamnotfrancis.hubpages.com/hub/Three-Types-of-Civilization), or a galactic civilization that can harness energy from billions of stars across the universe. Also see what Dr Michio Kaku has to say, here (http://www.destinationinfinity.org/2010/12/12/type-0-1-2-3-civilization-michio-kaku/), and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdILmgJGuvw).)
This is the hidden agenda a CERN – and humanity ain’t invited.

[sigma6]

The Hindu symbolism goes back to the Nazi's quest and research into Eastern Philosophy, where it appears they got all the technology for "the Bell" (according to Farrell) ...and Eastern Philosophy, according to the practitioners, is just as much a science as a philosophy, which is the same tac that quantum physicists (in the West) have maintained as their reason for developing quantum physics in the first place! i.e. logical roadblocks in physics necessitated going back and questioning the very foundation of philosophy that Western science was based on (materialism) which ultimately lead back to Eastern Philosophy (why re-invent the wheel?) Which thus then evolved into "quantum physics" ...the atom and consciousness are intimately related... to understand the atom and quantum physics, is to gain insight into the most profound concepts of Eastern philosophical ideas, their most sacred and ancient knowledge .... a body of knowledge unhindered by 2000 years of a brutal and murderous suppression in the West under ROMAN "Catholicism" which is probably what the Gnostics had knowledge of...

Now I am Become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds

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[observer]

The Hindu symbolism goes back to the Nazi's quest and research into Eastern Philosophy, where it appears they got all the technology for "the Bell" (according to Farrell) ...and Eastern Philosophy, according to the practitioners, is just as much a science as a philosophy, which is the same tac that quantum physicists (in the West) have maintained as their reason for developing quantum physics in the first place! i.e. logical roadblocks in physics necessitated going back and questioning the very foundation of philosophy that Western science was based on (materialism) which ultimately lead back to Eastern Philosophy (why re-invent the wheel?) Which thus then evolved into "quantum physics" ...the atom and consciousness are intimately related... to understand the atom and quantum physics, is to gain insight into the most profound concepts of Eastern philosophical ideas, their most sacred and ancient knowledge .... a body of knowledge unhindered by 2000 years of a brutal and murderous suppression in the West under ROMAN "Catholicism" which is probably what the Gnostics had knowledge of...

Now I am Become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds

26YLehuMydo

[....snip one video]


Thank you Sigma,

Everything you say is correct. Regarding the Nazis, the story Farrell tells is corroborated by Lavenda and Marrs as well. So there is no question the Global Elite have gleaned their Break-Away Civilization Agenda from the foundations of what the Nazis really developed, and how those Nazis were able to achieve their untold successes through the path of researching ancient text.

Oppenheimer worked on an Atomic Bomb through the Manhattan Project. According to most researchers, at the end of the Manhattan Project, Nazi scientists, and confiscated Nazi technology was appropriated in the last few months of the Second World War, just after the surrender of Germany, and just before the nuclear event in Japan. Those researchers point to the fact that two completely different prototypes of devices were used. One of these prototypes, "Little Boy" was a uranium bomb used on Hiroshima. The second device, "Fat Man" was a plutonium bomb, and of a completely different design, used on Nagasaki. One of these devices was thoroughly tested by the Manhattan Project. The other was dropped - untested. One must explain how the U.S. military knew the untested device would work.

There is little doubt the Nazis were far advanced with their understanding of Theoretical Physics than the Allied Nations. This is why, at the end of the Second World War, all of the Nazi Scientists were coveted by the U.S. and spirited-away under the cover of Operation Paperclip. As Jim Marrs often points out, "the German people lost the war, the Nazis won".

It is the wealth of Europe that the Nazis confiscated, and the knowledge of Nazi Sciences that fuels the Break-Away Civilization Agenda of the Global Elite.

With the discoveries in contemporary Plasma Physics, all of Einsteinian Science and Relativity Theory are out the door. They are all failed theory.

But, it is critical, for the Global Elite, to maintain the deception, in order to run a secret program in the plain view of the public. This is the reason CERN propaganda is so focused on "The Big Bang", and "Black Holes". It's all smoke-and-mirrors to obscure the real goals of the LHC. I outlined those goals in comment #57 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=907000&viewfull=1#post907000).

Mr. Oppenheimer's comments, which you documented in the videos you presented, were in reference to the Atomic Bomb. They had little to do with what the Global Elite are up to in the smoky rooms behind the public image of CERN.

Research Supporting the Failed Science Behind the "Big Bang":

"Hawking Still in the Dark on Black Holes"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz2A4qXJQjc

"Non-existence of Black Holes,The Failure of General Relativity."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jINHHXaPrWA

[sheme]

C=3
E=5 = 22
R=9 http://numerology-thenumbersandtheirmeanings.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/number-22.html
N=5

http://helpfreetheearth.com/news565_numbers.html




From the above link.....

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF OTHER (Illuminati) NUMBERS

Here are the meanings of the most significant numbers in the Illuminati system of numerology.

0 - For the Illuminati the number zero is symbolic of sun worshipping. It symbolizes the man who is reborn through occult rituals.

1 - This is the number of unity of mind, body and soul.

2 - This is the number of division rather than togetherness as is typical of other number system… It is the number of the total separation of Spirit.

3 - This is the number of royalty. It symbolizes the magical shape of the triangle. It symbolizes the Holy Trinity which is Nimrod Semiramis Tamus … or Osiris, Isis, Horus … or Satan, Eve and Cain

4 - The number of foundation. Aleister Crowley wrote a book called Book Four which was a complete guide to Magic.

5 - This is a number that protects members of the illuminati from Death. The Illuminati also use something called The Law of Fives which is the mind’s power to perceive truth in just about
everything.

6 - The number of man. Taken from the belief that man was created on the sixth day of the week.

7 - This number is significant in several ways. There are 7 Creative powers of the Godhead
There are 7 Great Ages of the Earth. There are 7 Races of mankind. There are 7 laws governing human life. There are 7 Schools of Mystery Religions. In Theosophy there is a seven step process of human evolution in which successive races evolve from a lower to a higher form of life.

8 - This is the number of the sun and the sun worshiper. It takes 8 years for Venus to orbit the sun 13 times which is significant to many occult groups including the Illuminati.

9 - The number of divine completion and the number of the fall of man.

10 - The number of law and authority. It is taken from the Ten Commandments.

11 - The number of destruction and judgment and the death of man. Any event or thing assigned with 11 is to aid the rising of the Dajjal/anti-Christ. In Latin the Devil’s name is LVX which translates as (50+5+10 = 65 =6+5 =11)
Just as a point of interest, Armistice Day/Remembrance Day November 11 at 11:11 (Triple 11)

13 - Thirteen is simultaneously a lucky and unlucky number. It is considered to be a bad omen because the Knights Templars were arrested on October 13, 1307. However it is also the number of reincarnation and everlasting life. There are 13 members in covens and satanic cults - 12 regular members and one high priest. This is a mirroring of 12 jurors + 1 judge = 13. There are 13 high occult families that run the world. (Fritz Springmeier Illuminati Bloodlines)

17 - The number of immortality.

19 - The number 19 is magickal. Lunar cycles are synchronized with Gregorian calendar every 19 years.

22 - The number 22 is a double 11. It is also a reoccurring 2. It is the number of
the Master Builder.

23 - The number that all big events are connected to in some way. The Knights Templars had only 23 Grand Masters (Jacque de Molay was the 23rd). 23 is the 1st prime number in which both digits are prime numbers that add up to a prime number. In the Qabbalistic Tree of Life the 23rd path is associated with the Hanged man Tarot Card (According to Leister Crowley this card represents the concept that the only way out is within)

27 - The number 27 = 9+9+9 the most powerful magnification of 9 as it symbolizes 3 nines.

39 - The number 39 = 13 + 13 + 13. The highest possible magnification of the number 13.

333 - The number 333 uses the number 3 three times. 333 stands for the one third of the angels that followed Lucifer and rebelled.

555 - The number 555 = 15 = 1 + 5 = 6. When 555 is used 3 times and reduced to a number, it is a hidden 666. The only known meaning to the numbers of evil or sinister triple 5 is enlightenment or illumination.

666 - When 6 is used 3 times it is the number of the Beast.

777 - Aleister Crowley wrote a book called 777 that is significant to the Illumnati

999 - 999 is a hidden and an inverted 666 and symbolizes hidden evil.

The Illuminati are very much into their own classic system of number meanings that have had an impact on their cult and on humankind for centuries!

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[heyokah]

C=3
E=5 = 22
R=9 http://numerology-thenumbersandtheirmeanings.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/number-22.html
N=5

Should humanity be con-CERN-ed about this? What do you think? ;-)

UPDATE

OK, scheme. I see you added quite a lot after your short post.
Thanks :)

[Shadowself]

Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed?

You tell me. When Swiss scientists that happen to live in Switzerland and have association to Cern are sent this:

https://twitter.com/Fourmilab/status/535459243307302912/photo/1

http://www.fourmilab.ch/

http://www.fourmilab.ch/nav/topics/map.html



Do Swiss authorities know something we don't?

But hay...What do I know? It's probably nothing right?

[donk]

Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed?

You tell me. When Swiss scientists that happen to live in Switzerland and have association to Cern are sent this:

https://twitter.com/Fourmilab/status/535459243307302912/photo/1

http://www.fourmilab.ch/

http://www.fourmilab.ch/nav/topics/map.html



Do Swiss authorities know something we don't?

But hay...What do I know? It's probably nothing right?

What do you mean? Can you please post the text of the twitt since a lot of firewalls block it for us working folk? The site looks neat, I read the title as 4 MILAB...this is what the owner clarifies:


Here I am at Fourmilab. Where's the Tevatron?
Oops…wrong hemisphere! You're thinking of Fermilab, the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory at Batavia, Illinois in the United States. Yes, since physics, including the very highest energy particles is an interest of mine, I enjoyed the pun on “Fermilab”, but that wasn't the only reason…. Some day we'll get around to building that Large Neutrino Collider in the basement. Still, there's some radioactive stuff here.

[Shadowself]

Can you please post the text of the twitt since a lot of firewalls block it for us working folk?

From John Walker (fourmilab): Hmmm…. Received a package of potassium iodide thyroid blocking agent in the post today, sent to everybody.

http://i61.tinypic.com/29oiwox.jpg

7:46 AM - 20 Nov 2014

Twitter response: Owen Wengerd ‏@owenwengerd Nov 20

@Fourmilab Hmmm, indeed. Do Swiss authorities know something we don't?

[Shadowself]

Noting John Walker is a computer programmer with a wide variety of interests:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_%28programmer%29

http://www.fourmilab.ch/nav/topics/map.html

A trip to CERN and the South Pole in 2013 among others...

http://www.fourmilab.ch/images/antarctica_2013/

http://www.fourmilab.ch/images/CERN_2013/

I don't know....could be nothing; but look at the side of the box to see the pharmacy that dispensed it.

[Shadowself]

How many particle accelerators does it take to rock your universe?


SCIENTIST Stephen Hawking has warned that the Higgs boson, the so-called God particle, could cause space and time to collapse.

But there is time for lunch: It may take trillions of years to topple.

The British professor said that at very high energy levels the Higgs boson – the subatomic particle which gives us our shape and size - could become so unstable that it would cause space and time to collapse.

Hawking’s comments have raised fresh fears over a surge in construction of particle colliders around the world.

China has announced it plans to build three new particle accelerators – the largest of which would be some 80km in diameter. The CERN particle accelerator which discovered the Higgs boson is 27km in diameter and puts out 14TeV.

A US/European proposed super proton collider is slated to be 100km in diameter.

The first Chinese collider, a 52km device to smash together electrons and positrons, is due to be built by 2028.

Complete article here:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/stephen-hawking-says-higgs-boson-has-potential-to-destroy-entire-universe/story-fn5fsgyc-1227050890169

I guess Hawking is con-CERN-ed?

[observer]

Thank you Shadowself, for your input.

In the link you offered, there is a video. Here's the link to it:


http://www.news.com.au/video/id-JzZnI2YTqAtwkFVDrRUEqXXZT2rce2RT/Scientists-confirm-Higgs-boson

Within the first minute of that clip, the scientists at CERN, who produced and appear on that video, are admitting that they have only found a "Higgs-LIKE Boson.

If you go to the video I offered in comment #54 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=906249&viewfull=1#post906249), you will clearly see the entire Big Bang Theory is flawed, including the idea of any such Higgs Boson.

Each time Theoretical Physicists think they have it right, Astrophysicists discover something new about our universe that doesn't quite fit into the Theoretical Physics Model. So, they "invent" another preposterous solution, and then "invent" mathematics to support these absurd claims.

The solution to the Great Mystery of our universe is the Electric Model. This is the pivital point of my debate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVmtrKF0YHE

Start at 1 minute; 20 seconds.

The theme I've been trying to show the membership with this thread is that:


Current Theoretical Physics is flawed.
It has been flawed since the 1920s when Einstein promoted his flawed Theory of Relativity.
Western Science bought-into the game - I believe to hide something much more sinister.
Theoretical Physicists in Germany, as early as the 1920s, were onto Hyper-dimensional Physics.
The Nazis picked-up that ball and ran with it.
From that diversion, has developed this Break-Away Civilization, which is nothing more than an extension of those early discoveries in Hyper-dimensional Physics.
Therefore, everything spewing from the mouth of Einstein, Hawking, et. el., is utter nonsense.
Each link I have offered within this thread has been another small piece in this incredibly complex puzzle.


Please don't interpret what I've said as a "dismissal". This entire thread is a journey into a dark corridor which desperately needs to be illuminated.

Time is running short....

Note To The Membership Participating In This Thread:

Please take the time to do, at least a cursory review, of the research offered.

[ghostrider]

the shape of a spaceship/disk is for a reason , it fits the propulsion drive perfectly , seven circles in total , first a circle , then a smaller circle , then a smaller circle , each a mini collider moving particles at different speeds and frequencies producing sub-atomic particles that can be harnessed and used as unlimited energy , the side benefit , it produces a field of energy that nullifies gravities influence on the passengers ... imagine this giant collider in a ship 7 meters in size ... hint ... it will be the key to us flying one day into deep cosmic space ... they will discover three more forces of nature and everything they know will change ... two I know are dark energy and dark matter , the last one , I'm still working on ... just as we here on earth are moving through space and stand on solid ground , the disk will become it's own little planet , passengers will feel nothing moving at near the speed of light ...

[naste.de.lumina]

This discussion has really impressed me. CERN always caught my attention but all these questions compiled here, show that I was far from understanding how deep and dark that rabbit hole seems to be. This rabbit hole itself is a hole full of worms. Thank you for bringing this view to our attention observer.

I passed quickly through the posts and I think I can make a small contribution.

Based on all my researches and I suspect strongly that the 'saturn planet' is a great portal 'stargate' among other things.

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/1387/astronavisaturno1.jpg

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http://wonderinspirit.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/saturn-ultraviolet-revealing-hexagon-on-south-pole.jpg?w=490

http://weirdthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/saturnhexagon2-460x327.jpg

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/code_matrix/images/codema167.jpg

tesseract or hipercube
http://i.imgur.com/QMu5LVY.gif

A Wrinkle in Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time) - Madeleine L'Engle - published in 1962 (The children grew up).
P.S.: Tesla_WTC_Solution post referenced this book here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=904358&viewfull=1#post904358).

sxl6TOLxvuI

pDyJBxNC8P0

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/TesseractGraph_800.gif

CERN Pseudo Collider - Similar concepts between Saturn tesseract and the collider tesseract?
http://ibxk.com.br/2013/8/materias/4795839823171912.jpg?w=1040

[naste.de.lumina]

Aldous Huxley Describes the Dancing Shiva Image

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[Shadowself]

Yes! That's serious dot connection!

IF you were to open an Einstein-Rosen Bridge (Wormhole)....it's said you can traverse time. If done so....it would emit Radiation


wormholes might be unstable, or that intense radiation and sub-atomic forces surrounding the entrance to the wormhole would kill anyone ...

http://mkaku.org/home/articles/blackholes-wormholes-and-the-tenth-dimension/


.....thus the warning here(?): http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=908002&viewfull=1#post908002






This discussion has really impressed me. CERN always caught my attention but all these questions compiled here, show that I was far from understanding how deep and dark that rabbit hole seems to be. This rabbit hole itself is a hole full of worms. Thank you for bringing this view to our attention observer.

I passed quickly through the posts and I think I can make a small contribution.

Based on all my researches and I suspect strongly that the 'saturn planet' is a great portal 'stargate' among other things.

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/1387/astronavisaturno1.jpg

LswSW60Zd4g

http://wonderinspirit.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/saturn-ultraviolet-revealing-hexagon-on-south-pole.jpg?w=490

http://weirdthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/saturnhexagon2-460x327.jpg

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/code_matrix/images/codema167.jpg

tesseract or hipercube
http://i.imgur.com/QMu5LVY.gif

A Wrinkle in Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time) - Madeleine L'Engle - published in 1962 (The children grew up).
P.S.: Tesla_WTC_Solution post referenced this book here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=904358&viewfull=1#post904358).

sxl6TOLxvuI

pDyJBxNC8P0

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/TesseractGraph_800.gif

CERN Pseudo Collider - Similar concepts between Saturn tesseract and the collider tesseract?
http://ibxk.com.br/2013/8/materias/4795839823171912.jpg?w=1040

[jerry]

I read the story watched the accompanied videos and really don't know what to make of it . The author seems to have his opinion that they are up to something a bit sinister and cloaked in mystery, and the way my mind works these days I have to agree.

According to researcher William Henry, the ancient Egyptian object named Ta-Wer aka “Osiris” device, was a stargate machine capable to open wormholes or dimensional openings used by Seth and Osiris to “travel across the underworld.”

When work at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider is completed in 2015, the collider should have twice the power and be able to help unlock more of the universe’s mysteries and to explore an entirely new realm of physics.

With the LHC power doubled, they will start looking for what they think is out there and they hope that something will turn up that no one had ever thought of.

https://missiongalacticfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/large-hadron-collider-exposed-the-stargate-of-shiva/

[Guish]

Hypotheses, my Friend. They were not afraid to give all the information they had about nuclear physics when everyone were hiding them a long time ago. World wide web came from their laboratories too. The ability to create black holes seem to be a concern though. Let's not forget that they blew their station in Geneva when they first tested their particle collision system. They might just mess up again. I hope they don't.

[Citizen No2]

This is pure speculation on my part.

Only yesterday I was watching a report on Richplanet TV regarding the TR-3B and it's propulsion system, a large ring-shaped cylinder that houses super-cooled plasma that is then accelerated to a high speed and depending on the plasma used, different results are produced, and in the case of the TR-3B a mercury based plasma is used to create amorphous magnetic fields. This ring is reported to be about one hundred feet across.

Then CERN came into my thoughts. A large (massive) ring-shaped cylinder that can accelerate particles to massive speed. Is it too much of a stretch of the imagination to suggest that the Large Hadron Collider, whilst being used for public-consumption scientific experiments, also has a much more, shall we say, interesting use. There is form for this line of thought: HAARP. And you know how much of a proponent I am of the Kansas City Shuffle.

And then I open Avalon this morning and lo-and-behold, the top thread is about CERN and the LHC.


Regards.

[Guish]

Silvano De Gennarro, who's a Physicist, has been working for CERN for years. He's actually the father of one of our students and he comes to our school to promote CERN and science in general. I'll definitely question him about the drawbacks of creating anti-matter and black holes artificially. A substantial number of people seem to be concerned about it.

[cursichella1]

From the start, and without any grasp of the claimed purpose of the LHC, I'd felt VERY uncomfortable about its existence and that of CERN. It isn't my lack of understanding that makes me feel this way. There are many new concepts, projects and technologies that I may be clueless about, but none have set off the same type of alarm...words like covert, danger, hidden, desperate, dimensional, siphon come to mind...

[Guish]

From the start, and without any grasp of the claimed purpose of the LHC, I'd felt VERY uncomfortable about its existence and that of CERN. It isn't my lack of understanding that makes me feel this way. There are many new concepts, projects and technologies that I may be clueless about, but none have set off the same type of alarm...words like covert, danger, hidden, desperate, dimensional, siphon come to mind...

We're always prone to looking at the negative side. Do you know that Echography also came from the CERN labs? The particles acceleration they have been experimenting with can now help to cure certain brain tumors. They just shoot a proton directly into the patient's head in an accurate matter and the proton explodes the infected area. Now, imagine all these technologies being used in evil hands? We don't know what's happening behind our backs? However, they were always anti-government. I know government spies kept an eye on them when they were trying to show everything about nuclear physics to the world while the government were secretly working on its atomic bombs.

[cursichella1]

From the start, and without any grasp of the claimed purpose of the LHC, I'd felt VERY uncomfortable about its existence and that of CERN. It isn't my lack of understanding that makes me feel this way. There are many new concepts, projects and technologies that I may be clueless about, but none have set off the same type of alarm...words like covert, danger, hidden, desperate, dimensional, siphon come to mind...

We're always prone to looking at the negative side. Do you know that Echography also came from the CERN labs? The particles acceleration they have been experimenting with can now help to cure certain brain tumors. They just shoot a proton directly into the patient's head in an accurate matter and the proton explodes the infected area. Now, imagine all these technologies being used in evil hands? We don't know what's happening behind our backs? However, they were always anti-government. I know government spies kept an eye on them when they were trying to show everything about nuclear physics to the world while the government were secretly working on its atomic bombs.

I appreciate what you say, and admit to being a cynic at times, however, on this particular subject my sense of it isn't an informed or uninformed opinion or conclusion. It is an intuitive thing...not something that can be rationalized away.

[Guish]

From the start, and without any grasp of the claimed purpose of the LHC, I'd felt VERY uncomfortable about its existence and that of CERN. It isn't my lack of understanding that makes me feel this way. There are many new concepts, projects and technologies that I may be clueless about, but none have set off the same type of alarm...words like covert, danger, hidden, desperate, dimensional, siphon come to mind...

We're always prone to looking at the negative side. Do you know that Echography also came from the CERN labs? The particles acceleration they have been experimenting with can now help to cure certain brain tumors. They just shoot a proton directly into the patient's head in an accurate matter and the proton explodes the infected area. Now, imagine all these technologies being used in evil hands? We don't know what's happening behind our backs? However, they were always anti-government. I know government spies kept an eye on them when they were trying to show everything about nuclear physics to the world while the government were secretly working on its atomic bombs.

I appreciate what you say, and admit to being a cynic at times, however, on this particular subject my sense of it isn't an informed or uninformed opinion or conclusion. It is an intuitive thing...not something that can be rationalized away.

I understand.

[ghostrider]

The mainstream media drip about the LHC is what they want us to know ... we know they say one thing and do another , then do a poor job of covering their tracks with sound bites and talking heads ... who really knows what their agenda is and what the LHC is really for ... could be just another way to ask for funding from governments ... you know the old search for something they never really want to find , for then their funding is cut off ...

[Citizen No2]

The first rule of Government spending:

Why have one, when you can have two for twice the cost.


Regards.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I think people should in this case refer to the judgment of Nostradamus.
He predicted the London fire and he also predicted a horrific disaster centered in Geneva.

food for thought.
the compartmentalized hive minds of the scientists are not always equal to the vision of the seer.

[onawah]

If you weren't aware, Simon Parkes has said some very interesting things about CERN.
According to him, CERN is indeed a kind of portal, and there are regressive Reptilians living underground who caused it to be built via the human elite so they could escape this planet.
But there was only a limited window of time in which it would work, and apparently it was sabotaged at just the right time (it seemed that benevolent ETs or EDs might have been responsible) so that it could not be used for that purpose.
So now they are blackmailing Japan into building a new one to meet the next possible window of time in which they can escape, which I believe he said is sometime in 2017.

[heyokah]

For more information about CERN and the Large Hadron Collider I'd like to point at observer's tread
"Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed?"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed

****

[onawah]

See the link and listen to Simon Parkes' latest interview for the latest news on CERN:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1420-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=927012&viewfull=1#post927012

[heyokah]

CERN’s Large Hadron Collider will start working again in March

The particle collider, which has undergone a $151 million upgrade, will resume circulating proton beams in March and expects the first collision to occur in May 2015.
It will be able to function at double its previous power, which will help physicists gain a deeper understanding of the Universe, including dark matter and dark energy.........
Dark as Dark can be??

*

In the graphs, developed in detail in the different posts of this web (https://cerntruth.wordpress.com), we show the 3 distinctive Life extinction events that the Large Hadron Collider – a quark cannon that throws bullets of the densest, most explosive material of the Universe, quark condensates – can cause, once it is put on line at double potency in Spring 2015, over the 10 Tev barrier of creation of dark matter - the theoretical minimal energy of formation of a ‘bag of strangelets’ and ‘micro-black holes’.

- Creation of baby black holes that do not evaporate, either as top quark condensates (Einstein’s famous frozen stars) or string stars with higher dimensionality. This risk has been overblown by media, since it is less likely and black hole theory has still a ‘mythic, speculative’ side that allowed them to divert attention from the truly, well-proved, scientific catastrophe:

- Creation of strangelets – lumps of strange quarks shown to be very common in the Universe, as all pulsars seems to be frozen, strange quark stars. This risk is absolute, meaning that according to the ‘Totalitarian Principle’ of physics, all particles that can theoretically happen will happen. And strange quark matter will theoretically happen, since the LHC is merely beyond ‘speculative theories’ a quark cannon, which produces massive quantities of strange quarks at high energy regimes.

Now, a strangelet is nothing strange, it is merely a ‘lump of strange quarks’. And we know those lumps of strange quarks, once formed devour our lighter, simpler up and down quarks.

And as it happens, the LHC is just a ‘quark cannon that produces lumps of strange quarks, strangelets. The LHC is a cyclical, ‘never-ending’ cannon barrel, that accelerates lead ion ‘bullets’ every cycle, the heaviest non-radioactive atom with more quarks, with two purposes: to increase the mass of those quarks transforming them into ‘strange quarks’, and then collide them to make ‘strangelets’, strange quark condensates.

The LHC is JUST A FACTORY of strangelets, and so when it goes on line at full potency, will just mass produce strangelets

Thus strangelets will be made at CERN between 2015 and 2020 on collisions over 10 Tev. Then those strangelets will fall to the center of the Earth undetected (which will excuse CERN from responsibility, AS IT will deny it produced them till the end), and it will eat up the Earth inside out, till it converts it into a 15 km. strangelet rock.

- Finally the magnetic field of the LHC, the strongest on planet Earth, which cause disturbances on the Earth’s magnetic field, cause of Earthquakes that have increased till record numbers, similar to those of II World War during the carpet bombing of the pacific seismic ‘ring of fire’, since the machine was put on line in a continuous growth that made April 2014, the all time record for this month.

Any of those 3 scenarios should have deterred CERN’s physicists and its political backers, from upgrading the machine to double potency in 2015, but physicists and the P.R.ess considers the issue closed and prefer wishful thinking to ethic and social responsibility.

Read further
https://cerntruth.wordpress.com

[Camilo]

CERN is due to re-open the large hadron collider in March of 2015 in order to recreate the big bang, despite warnings from top scientists such as Stephen Hawking and Neil de Grasse Tyson.

Allnewspipeline.com reports:

Dr. Stephen Hawking recently warned that the reactivation in March of CERN’s large hadron collider could pose grave dangers to our planet…the ultimate reality check we are warned. Hawking has come straight out and said the ‘God particle’ found by CERN “could destroy the universe” leaving time and space collapsed as shared in the 2nd video. Is CERN the most dangerous thing in the cosmos that could lead to the ultimate destruction of the Earth and the entire universe? Recent developments prove to us the scientific community is no longer able to explain ‘reality’ without looking at the ‘supernatural’. Will we soon learn CERN is really the ‘ultimate stargate’ and one of the gate-keepers most closely guarded secrets? Will this be the way man attempts to break the ultimate ‘God barrier’, an attempt to encounter demi-God’s in an all-out rush towards the destruction of all creation? We understand they won’t be releasing the secrets until they’re prepared to release them.

Does CERN headquarter’s symbol of Shiva, dancing the cosmic dance of death and destruction, signal the TRUE purpose of CERN’s existence? A look at the ‘Shiva’ (the Hindu God of Destruction) symbology surrounding CERN’s headquarters gives us the beginning of what we need to know. “The men who would play God, in searching for the God particle, are truly going to find more than they bargained for as they open the gates of hell” we are warned by Stephen Quayle, “they will find inter-dimensional beings who have a taste for human flesh and humanities destruction. Most scientists, in lacking an understanding of the ‘supernatural entities’ that are going to confront them, are way beyond their ability to comprehend, let alone control, the forces of Pandora’s box that will be released.”

Astrophysicist Neil de Grasse Tyson has also sounded the alarm in a hypothetical manner by telling anyone who might want to ‘blow up a planet’ how to do so…is this CERN’s attempt to do so by attempting to ‘recreate’ the big bang within a man made structure that has frightened Stephen Hawking so much? Do they know that they know that they know what they’re doing?

“Ask yourself: how much energy is keeping it together?” Neil deGrasse Tyson told co-host Eugene Mirman on his Star Talk radio show. “Then you put more than that amount of energy into the object. It will explode.”

“In the movie Star Wars, we see the Death Star blow up the planet Alderaan,” Mirman said, reading the question. “Setting aside the question of how [such] a thing would be possible, what would happen to our solar system if the Empire blew up, say, Mars?”

First, deGrasse Tyson said, any Imperial sympathizer looking to make that happen would have to calculate the planet’s binding energy, in order to determine how much energy it would take to overcome the gravitational forces binding the planet together.

“Now you have a device that can pump that energy into your planet and have that planet absorb the energy, rather than have the energy come out the other side, it will completely destroy the planet to smithereens, entirely,” he explained. “So, that’s how one would go about it.”

The 3rd video below is an excellent compilation called “CERN: Supercolliders, Subliminals, & Stargates: Illuminati’s Plan for Satan’s Arrival” while the 4th video is a NOVA documentary on CERN and the final video is from FreedomFighter2127 in which the videographer offers his own evidence and opinions on CERN and its’ tie in to “2015: The International Year of Light”.

- See more at: http://yournewswire.com/cern-to-attempt-big-bang-in-march-stephen-hawking-issues-warning/#sthash.vSCCOYLd.dpuf

[Citizen No2]

What we do not understand, we fear.

If the article above is to be believed, Professor Hawking is sounding the alarm bell. I would hazard a guess that Prof. Hawking has a pretty good understanding of the LHC and the possible effects of the planned, latest collision.

I am of the opinion that no-body knows, in the quantum world there is equal possibility that the collision could create a My Little Pony TM.


Regards.

[lucidity]

Interestingly..

Rev Douglas James Cottrell has been doing deep trance meditation
in the manner of Edgar Cayce for about 35 years and claims
remote viewing and psychic abilities... with impressive accuracy.

Rev Cottrell has repeatedly warned that Switzerland is going to
be obliterated due to the Hadron Collider... between 2012 and 2020.

See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvmV6KVybI

I wonder, has anyone else come out with predictions about the
destruction of Switzerland as a result of the Hadron Collider ?

What date in March are they going to 'turn on' the Hadron Collider ?

be happy

lucidity :-)

[yelik]

I agree there's a a real danger here since they're very likely trying to open a gateway into other dimensions. My wish is that they all get sucked into another reality, together with their negative draco friends

[Flash]

Interestingly..

Rev Douglas James Cottrell has been doing deep trance meditation
in the manner of Edgar Cayce for about 35 years and claims
remote viewing and psychic abilities... with impressive accuracy.

Rev Cottrell has repeatedly warned that Switzerland is going to
be obliterated due to the Hadron Collider... between 2012 and 2020.

See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvmV6KVybI

I wonder, has anyone else come out with predictions about the
destruction of Switzerland as a result of the Hadron Collider ?

What date in March are they going to 'turn on' the Hadron Collider ?

be happy

lucidity :-)
Of course the 11th of March they told us on a magazine cover.

[RMorgan]

This is what happens when mediocre journalists try to write about science: Nonsense.

They're not trying to recreate the Big-Bang itself, but to simulate what may have happened moments after the Big-Bang in a much much much much much (multiply by infinity) smaller scale.

These are completely different things. The same experiment was concluded very successfully in 2010 and, obviously, we're still here.

Watch this video for accurate info, if you're interested:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VUzi-JxEVw

Raf.

[viscountvlad]

A momentary google of Professor Hawking shows he didn't say anything like what is reported in the above article.

He stated that a future LHC with sufficient power could produce conditions in which the Higgs Boson might end the universe but “A particle accelerator that reaches 100bn GeV [the required giga-electron-volts] would be larger than Earth, and is unlikely to be funded in the present economic climate.”

Stargates, dimensional portals and particle physics are not my area of expertise, but Hawking is a public figure and what he has said is out there if you are interested.

I imagine we will all live to see another day.

x

[doodah]

Thanks for the clarifications ... You know, when they exploded the first atomic bombs there was speculation that they might end up literally setting the atmosphere on fire. No one really knew what would happen. So they exploded the bombs anyway. Instead of setting the atmosphere on fire, apparently they blew holes in time and space (if you believe the people who say that that is what actually happened) as well as making a lot of people sick to this day.

These guys absolutely DO NOT know what they are dealing with. But pay attention if people start closing their Swiss bank accounts!

Bless us all.

[ALLiTiZ]

Didn't John Titor make a prediction about March 2015?

[amor]

"Once again. Finding the God Particle is a mind experiment and not a physical one, unless you wish everything extinguished. It is very much like knitting. One thread (one kind of energy forms a knitting pattern. If you find a free end of the thread and begin to pull, you can unravel the entire thing very easily. Now imagine two holes placed not far from each other emitting an energy in flatland. These energy fulcrums are turning flat, the result of which is a flat pinwheel which looks somewhat like the beginning arms of the galaxy. Now move the fulcrums closer to each other so that while both sets of curved arms are turning clockwise, the arms of #2 are curving upward to intersect fully with the curved arms of #1 which are moving downward. Stop and visualize this. You will note that the arms intersect at an angle which looks like the petals of the "flower of life." In other words, they are intersecting at an angle much less than 90 degrees. Remember that these are FORCES which are banging into each other, the resultant of which is ONE FORCE which is now moving in a new direction. This force will, in turn, run into other vectors of force resulting also in new directions. Stage two of this vector story must be continued not in Flatland, but in four dimentional land, as a complicated KNITTING of these forces PROPAGATES (there is no big bang) our universe creating space-time as it progresses. It does so by creating spirals within spirals within spirals.

One very important thing to note is that the Arm emitted by the closest Fulcrum of Energy to the intersection of Arms is the STRONG FORCE. We may think of it as some precursor to our Electron, although the Electron will be much further down the subatomic ladder of resultant forces. Naturally, the Arm which has traveled farthest from its Fulcrum of Energy before intersecting with one nearer to its Fulcrum of Energy, will be the WEAK FORCE. What we have now is an increasingly complicated pattern of vector/spirals (clockwise for the mind experiment so far).

Now, place these Energy Emitting Fulcrums in various patterns to provide continuous interactions in four dimensions in space-time. Because the order of the Universe appears to be uniform in its formations, the very large and the very tiny, I am led to assume that there is a central unifying order to the rotation of all the Fulcrums of Energy.

How do we work this complicated thing out. Here is how. We have computers with parallel computing; and I believe, with holographic copying of all the knowledge of the computer in each parallel branch. However, even without this, if you interface a three dimentional holographic imaging system with your computer, the output of your experiments would be visibly clear for you to compare with our universe. You may find that there are points in this construct where the Weak and Strong Forces are equal. This can be interesting and important to the continuity of the whole.

Back to CERN which smashes particles head-on into each other. If you want to understand how an object has come about, you do not smash it into pieces. Creation is a mind experiment of God, carefully designed and executed with lots of memory circuits. As above, so below. This statement tells that the designs of the macrocosm are repeated in the microcosm. It is important to hold all that has been before in the construction in memory to understand the next step in the structure. For this, we need the Parallel Computer/Holographic Interface. In short, everything in our universe is a careful knitting of ONLY ONE FORCE. THIS FORCE IS THE GOD PARTICLE WHICH IS NOT YET A PARTICLE UNTIL IT IS KNIT WITH ITSELF IN VARIOUS TIMED DIRECTIONS. GOD IS THE DESIGNER. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING, ASK HIM AS I DID.`

It is being said that CERN is experimenting with making a Stargate or perhaps trying to find a way to MOVE THE PLANET out of the way of something incoming. There are Demonic entities out there which man cannot begin to fight, against which his weapons are nothing. Beware!

][/EMAIL]

[Mu2143]

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[heyokah]

For more information about CERN and the Large Hadron Collider I'd like to point at observer's tread
"Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed?"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=929602#post929602

I will crosspost here my last reply.


CERN’s Large Hadron Collider will start working again in March

The particle collider, which has undergone a $151 million upgrade, will resume circulating proton beams in March and expects the first collision to occur in May 2015.
It will be able to function at double its previous power, which will help physicists gain a deeper understanding of the Universe, including dark matter and dark energy.........
Dark as Dark can be??

*

In the graphs, developed in detail in the different posts of this web (https://cerntruth.wordpress.com), we show the 3 distinctive Life extinction events that the Large Hadron Collider – a quark cannon that throws bullets of the densest, most explosive material of the Universe, quark condensates – can cause, once it is put on line at double potency in Spring 2015, over the 10 Tev barrier of creation of dark matter - the theoretical minimal energy of formation of a ‘bag of strangelets’ and ‘micro-black holes’.

- Creation of baby black holes that do not evaporate, either as top quark condensates (Einstein’s famous frozen stars) or string stars with higher dimensionality. This risk has been overblown by media, since it is less likely and black hole theory has still a ‘mythic, speculative’ side that allowed them to divert attention from the truly, well-proved, scientific catastrophe:

- Creation of strangelets – lumps of strange quarks shown to be very common in the Universe, as all pulsars seems to be frozen, strange quark stars. This risk is absolute, meaning that according to the ‘Totalitarian Principle’ of physics, all particles that can theoretically happen will happen. And strange quark matter will theoretically happen, since the LHC is merely beyond ‘speculative theories’ a quark cannon, which produces massive quantities of strange quarks at high energy regimes.

Now, a strangelet is nothing strange, it is merely a ‘lump of strange quarks’. And we know those lumps of strange quarks, once formed devour our lighter, simpler up and down quarks.

And as it happens, the LHC is just a ‘quark cannon that produces lumps of strange quarks, strangelets. The LHC is a cyclical, ‘never-ending’ cannon barrel, that accelerates lead ion ‘bullets’ every cycle, the heaviest non-radioactive atom with more quarks, with two purposes: to increase the mass of those quarks transforming them into ‘strange quarks’, and then collide them to make ‘strangelets’, strange quark condensates.

The LHC is JUST A FACTORY of strangelets, and so when it goes on line at full potency, will just mass produce strangelets

Thus strangelets will be made at CERN between 2015 and 2020 on collisions over 10 Tev. Then those strangelets will fall to the center of the Earth undetected (which will excuse CERN from responsibility, AS IT will deny it produced them till the end), and it will eat up the Earth inside out, till it converts it into a 15 km. strangelet rock.

- Finally the magnetic field of the LHC, the strongest on planet Earth, which cause disturbances on the Earth’s magnetic field, cause of Earthquakes that have increased till record numbers, similar to those of II World War during the carpet bombing of the pacific seismic ‘ring of fire’, since the machine was put on line in a continuous growth that made April 2014, the all time record for this month.

Any of those 3 scenarios should have deterred CERN’s physicists and its political backers, from upgrading the machine to double potency in 2015, but physicists and the P.R.ess considers the issue closed and prefer wishful thinking to ethic and social responsibility.

Read further
https://cerntruth.wordpress.com

[lucidity]

Hello heyokah

very interesting post... thanks for that. :-)

[cursichella1]

I don't know what to say about this (a first!), so just putting it out there. The original article is here below, and under that, some "high octane speculation" from Dr. Joseph P. Farrell's "News From The Nefarium (http://gizadeathstar.com/)". :



“We Honestly Have No ****ing Idea What We’re Doing”, Admits Leading Quantum Physicist

THEORETICAL Quantum Physicist Dr. Amit Goswami admitted today that he, and his peers, have absolutely ‘no ****ing idea’ what they’re doing, and claims they were no nearer than prehistoric man to figuring out the Universe.
“We have been just winging it to tell you the truth,” explained the 78-year-old in an exclusive interview with WWN. “Seriously, I haven’t a clue what’s going on. Either does anyone else in my field. We keep proving stuff that never actually happened”.
“Our cover is blown, what can I say? He added.
Dr. Goswami’s comments came after yet another alleged breakthrough in quantum mechanics which claims the universe has existed forever, as opposed to being created by a ‘big bang’.
“Over the years there have been just a handful of us pretending to know something about the universe that no one else does,” he went on. “But this is all lies to feed the charade. I’ve had some great times during the years; travelling the world, and giving talks on our pretend finds”.
When asked how he got away with it for so long, he replied: “I found out a long time ago that everything can be proven with a mathematical equation. Now, I mean everything; from unicorns, fire-breathing dragons, God and even the G-spot. None of it is true. Me and the handful that know the truth have been riding the Quantum Physicist celebrity wave for quite some time now, but it must end – before someone gets hurt”.
The University of Oregon professor warned that the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, known as CERN, could potentially wipe out the entire planet if the project is not put to a halt.
“Seriously, when myself, Higgs and Ben (Benjamin Lockspeiser CERN’s first president) first pitched the idea, we never thought it would get funding. It was gonna cost billions for Christs sake,” he recalled. “**** knows what the thing does – no one does. Firing particles at each other at the speed of light can’t end well. I’m just worried now we took the joke too far”.
Ending the interview, professor Goswami apologised for “spoofing” everybody over the years.
“I’m coming near the end of my days now and I just want to get this off my chest,” he said. “I just hope the world can forgive us”.

Original Article Link (http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/02/10/we-honestly-have-no-****ing-idea-what-were-doing-admits-leading-quantum-physicist/)

From Dr. Joseph p. Farrell:


CERN PHYSICIST AMIT GOSWAMI: WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE’RE DOING…
February 27, 2015

Now, this one was shared by a lot of you who, like me, have been following the developments at CERN's large hadron collider in Geneva with a bit of a jaundiced eye. First we had the sort-of announcement of the discovery of the so-called "god particle," the Higgs boson, allegedly the particle in the quantum pantheon for imparting mass to everything else. I say "pantheon" here because it strikes me as extremely odd and curious that physics seems somehow trapped in the old this-god-does-that-function paradigm: we have gods of "wisdom, fertility, and (pick a function)" and this particle-does-mass and that particle does that... and spin moments, and directionality, and quarks and "colors,"... I'm reminded a bit of the old nominalist-versus-realist debates of the late Middle Ages. But anyway, back to the Higgs. Then the discovery was sort-of retracted, then sort-of confirmed.Then we even heard, briefly, of some sort of "discovery" of something with "superluminal" velocities, but no, that's impossible because Pope Einstein said so. Then we had the stories coming out of how some physicists were actually toying with the idea of recasting their equations entirely without the notion of dimensionality, allegedly, so the story would seem, because of the High Weirdness they're finding when they crank up their alchemical machine at Geneva. When I heard that one I had to do a double-take, for the idea of modern mathematical physics without dimensionality in the equations would seem to throw the whole last 200 years of physics into a cocked hat. Maxwell, of course, had his quaternions with its scalar potentials, but even he had to get around to dimensionality at some point. Einstein's general relativity is a highly dimensional theory, as are the various early 20th century stabs at unified field theories from Kaluza-Klein to Vaclav Hlavaty and on down even to modern string and m-theory. It's as if they are suggesting that the whole of mathematical physics be recast as a theory of Nothing with lots and lots of scalars and zero-sum vectors (or are those the same thing? One can imagine David Bohm asking such a question).

Then along comes Indian theoretical physicist Amit Goswami, who, fed up with the underlying Cartesian-materialist-epiphenomenalism of it all, just bluntly proposes in Leibnizian fashion that consciousness - that's right, immaterial, incorporeal, metaphysical consciousness, Mind itself, as it were - is the underlying bedrock of physics, and not a bunch of particles emerging from an endless Dirac sea of ...well... nothing once again. Needless to say, his views are controversial.

Well, now Dr. Goswami has joined Stephen Hawking in warning about CERN's Large Hadron collider, fearing that at some point, something catastrophic might happen. In fact, he goes further, in this article, by saying "We (physicists) have no ******* idea what we're doing:"

“We Honestly Have No ******* Idea What We’re Doing”, Admits Leading Quantum Physicist

Now, in case you missed the salient points, here they are once again:

"The University of Oregon professor warned that the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, known as CERN, could potentially wipe out the entire planet if the project is not put to a halt.

“'Seriously, when myself, Higgs and Ben (Benjamin Lockspeiser CERN’s first president) first pitched the idea, we never thought it would get funding. It was gonna cost billions for Christs sake,' he recalled. “'**** knows what the thing does – no one does. Firing particles at each other at the speed of light can’t end well. I’m just worried now we took the joke too far'." (Emphasis added)

Now, obviously, Dr. Gotswami has no aversion to colorful language (and no, just because I'm quoting the article does not mean the rules on this website for commentary are suspended). One wonders, really, why he is using such language, and my speculation is that he is doing so in order to underscore the danger. Most disturbingly, he admits no one really knows what the Large Hadron Collider is really doing. But wiping out the entire planet?

Here's my problem (and my high octane speculation of the day). Back when the alchemical machine in Geneva was being prepared to be fired up for the first time, there were efforts being undertaken, largely in Germany, to head off the project and not turn it on at all. The reason? Well, again, because some feared catastrophic consequences of a planetary scale. They were, of course, ignored and scoffed at. But now, Gotswami has joined Hawking in uttering vague and dire apocalyptic warnings of planetary consequences if a stop is not put to it now. And that suggests these scientists know something that they're not saying. The question is, what?

So far as the story has emerged, there are some clues, though precious few. Hawking, of course, has made his career largely in "the physics of the very large," black holes and singularities and such. Gotswami, conversely, has gone into the bewitching field of the very small, quantum mechanics and its pantheon of particles-as-functions. So we have two physicists at opposite ends of the metrology scale, saying essentially the same thing. The third clue is that in the wake of the weird CERN results, we heard those strange calls for doing away with dimensionality in the equations altogether, an idea that, at first glance, seems to be in the same metaphysical camp as Gotswami with his emphasis on consciousness, and not materialism, as the principia prima of physics(Plato and the Neoplatonists must be smiling down from the Elysian fields at that one).

Thus, what seems to be suggested from all of this is something that I suspected years ago when all this CERN talk first started, and that I first voiced on Ms. George Ann Hughes' The Byte Show, namely, that they had found something so unexpected in terms of their conventional models that it left them quietly, and perhaps secretly, scrambling at their blackboards or computer screens with their Mathcad programs. Perhaps, I suggested, they discovered something that confirmed that torsion was not the small dismissible micro-effect that always got tossed out in the equations, but a real macro-effect possibly capable of producing Hawking's dreaded black holes, or perhaps it was something else. Perhaps they discovered that linear mappings of individual observers went out the window when group observers were involved, and everything became non-linear... or perhaps they discovered that the difference between the two was itself a rotation group... and we're back to square one... But whatever it was they did discover - and in my opinion they did discover something - they're not coming (in my purely amateur opinion once again), entirely clean.

Ok... I'm done. And thank you for indulging my really crazy high octane speculation of the day...

See you on the flip side...

http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/cern-physicist-amit-goswami-we-have-no-idea-what-were-doing/

Dr. Farrell's GizaDeathStar website link (http://gizadeathstar.com/)

[Omni]

I am quite sure it wont destroy the planet. If it had that capability it would not be allowed. TPTB as well as ETs know all the facts about this science. ETs wont let our planet be destroyed. It is one area they can actually intervene in.

IIRC Steven Hawking said it could potentially destroy the universe. lol. As if there weren't countless other races out there that have done the same things in the history of the universe.

One thing I have learned is all universal mechanics are as perfect as they can be. Every single race figuring out this science would have destroyed their planet if it was capable of that... Too big of a flaw in the universe to exist IMO.

[Star Tsar]

That first link is dead cursichella1
:)

[Atlas]

I agree with Omniverse, CERN's LHC won't destroy the planet.

Bored Scientists Now Just Sticking Random Things Into Large Hadron Collider (the onion :) )
atG3H3rTTsI
More seriously: The Large Hadron Collider

Z8Q59RpyC-8

[Atlas]

That first link is dead cursichella1
Click on this link: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/02/10/we-honestly-have-no-****ing-idea-what-were-doing-admits-leading-quantum-physicist/ and replace the stars (****) in the URL with the correct letters.

Notice in the comments section of http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/cern-physicist-amit-goswami-we-have-no-idea-what-were-doing/:




I just contacted Dr. Goswami via his website and he quickly sent me back an email stating it was a satire and that he has contacted the website in question and has received no replies.

He asked for suggestions as to what to do next. I replied to contact Joseph and he would get a fair minded hearing here.

So, Joseph, perhaps you will be receiving an email from Dr. Goswami. Keep an eye out. Maybe you could arrange an interview with him about CERN and such

mxlance

[lucidity]

Hello Siblings,

Since 2009 famous psychic Dr Douglas James Cotterel
has been warning that Switzerland will be destroyed
'in the twinkle of an eye'.... because of the Hadron
Collider in Geneva. This is due to happen between
2012 and 2020. See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvmV6KVybI

If Switzerland vanishes, then presumably, a big
hole will also be made in western France, southern
Germany and northern Italy too. We're looking
at somewhere between 10 and 100 million deaths
(subject to the diameter of the blast zone).
The worst accident in human history, ever.

The more concerning part of this story is that this
psychic is famous precisely because he has proven
himself highly accurate in the past.

be happy

lucidity :-)

[Atlas]

Safety of high-energy particle collision experiments

The safety of high energy particle collisions was a topic of widespread discussion and topical interest during the time when the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) and later the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) were being constructed and commissioned. Concerns arose that such high energy experiments had the potential to create harmful states of matter or even doomsday scenarios. Claims escalated as commissioning of the LHC drew closer, around 2008–2010. The claimed dangers included the production of stable micro black holes and the creation of hypothetical particles called strangelets, and these questions were explored in the media, on the Internet and at times through the courts.

To address these concerns in the context of the LHC, CERN mandated a group of independent scientists to review these scenarios. In a report issued in 2003, they concluded that, like current particle experiments such as the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC), the LHC particle collisions pose no conceivable threat. A second review of the evidence commissioned by CERN was released in 2008. The report, prepared by a group of physicists affiliated to CERN but not involved in the LHC experiments, reaffirmed the safety of the LHC collisions in light of further research conducted since the 2003 assessment. It was reviewed and endorsed by a CERN committee of 20 external scientists and by the Executive Committee of the Division of Particles & Fields of the American Physical Society, and was later published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Physics G by the UK Institute of Physics, which also endorsed its conclusions.

The report ruled out any doomsday scenario at the LHC, noting that the physical conditions and collision events which exist in the LHC, RHIC and other experiments occur naturally and routinely in the universe without hazardous consequences, including ultra-high-energy cosmic rays observed to impact Earth with energies far higher than those in any man-made collider.

Source: wikipedia.org/Safety_of_high-energy_particle_collision_experiments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_of_high-energy_particle_collision_experiments)

See also: Has-the-LHC-destroyed-the-earth.com (http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/) ;)

[lucidity]

Hi buares,

Nice to see you keeping up the establishment end.... again ;-)

The problem with 'independent reports' is that they are aimed at allaying
fears not with publishing knowledge of 'real' risks.

In the UK, France, USA (and probably most other countries with nuclear power plants)
the building project was 'accompanied by' (usually not preceded by) some
panel of 'so called' independent experts who's _explicit_ job it was to weigh up
the potential risks and report on measures aimed at their elimination or
reduction.

This always happens, it's part of the pantomime, the aim to address
concerns not reveal the truth or report on real risks.

There was probably such a report years before the Fukushima disaster.

"yes, yes, it's perfectly safe, there's nothing to worry about" kind of thing.

There was several such reports in the UK concerning the Windscale
nuclear power plant.. which had so many incidents and leaks that they
even resorted to renaming it 'Sellafield' because the name Windscale
was so badly tarnished by an appalling history safety issues.
It was basically the same lie:

"yes, yes, it's perfectly safe, there's nothing to worry about"

And yet, the Irish Sea (Windscale sits on the coast) was the most radioactive
sea in the world... that is, until the Fukushima disaster.

The infamous Project Blue Book report into the UFO phenomena was also
_supposedly_ an "independent enquiry". In actuality, it was set up to
white wash the whole UFO issue and publish utterly misleading conclusions.
(where 'misleading conclusions' means _lies_)

I rather like the story that emerged some decades after the USA
dropped nuclear bombs on Japan. Prior to the testing of the first
hydrogen bomb prototypes out in the desert, some senior scientists
were anxious that the detonation of atomic bombs on raised
platforms might ignite the atmosphere... (since there's lots of
hydrogen in the atmosphere, right). There was no independent
enquiry about this... the military decided to go ahead with
the tests anyway. Question: Would the US military take risks
that might result in the destruction of the planet. Answer: They did.

Let's not forget that the Hadron Collider is a very big, very expensive
experiment. If they knew the results of these experiments they
wouldn't be running them. In other words, they _don't_ know
what's going to happen. Ultimately, they are taking a risk... with
the lives of the scientists, with Geneva, with Switzerland.. etc.

be happy

lucidity :-)

[yelik]

There's probably a number of secret projects already going on around the world where they are trying to open or keep open portals. Cern may just be a front like NASA, in any event they would not make public their true intentions.

[Nick Matkin]

If CERN were to be a real threat to the planet, how come the place isn't buzzing with UFOs? They are supposed to be seen around nuclear test facilities and missile sites so why not CERN if it's such a threat?

There are those who 'know' aliens exist and 'know' they are concerned about us and what we are ignorantly doing.

So why no CERN UFO footage from the locals?

Nick

PS: The 'ignite the atmosphere' comment in post #8 was made before the very first atom bomb test explosion, nothing to do with later H-bombs. It also had nothing to do with hydrogen in the atmosphere. There was a fleeting concern voiced by Teller that the Manhattan Project test would set off a chain reaction leading to fusion of nitrogen nuclei. They decided that wasn't possible and went ahead anyway...

[Atlas]

CERN (who is about to destroy the planet with the LHC without even knowing what they are doing) posted the following:




"To think that LHC particle collisions at high energies can lead to dangerous black holes is rubbish. Such rumors were spread by unqualified people seeking sensation or publicity."




"The operation of the LHC is safe, not only in the old sense of that word, but in the more general sense that our most qualified scientists have thoroughly considered and analyzed the risks involved in the operation of the LHC. [Any concerns] are merely hypothetical and speculative, and contradicted by much evidence and scientific analysis."




"The world will not come to an end when the LHC turns on. The LHC is absolutely safe. ... Collisions releasing greater energy occur millions of times a day in the earth's atmosphere and nothing terrible happens."





"Nature has already done this experiment. ... Cosmic rays have hit the moon with more energy and have not produced a black hole that has swallowed up the moon. The universe doesn't go around popping off huge black holes."





"I certainly have no worries at all about the purported possibility of LHC producing microscopic black holes capable of eating up the Earth. There is no scientific basis whatever for such wild speculations."





"There is no risk [in LHC collisions, and] the LSAG report is excellent."





"Those who have doubts about LHC safety should read LSAG report where all possible risks were considered. We can be sure that particle collisions at the LHC cannot lead to a catastrophic consequences."





"We fully endorse the conclusions of the LSAG report: there is no basis for any concerns about the consequences of new particles or forms of matter that could possibly be produced at the LHC."

Source: http://press.web.cern.ch/backgrounders/safety-lhc
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Hi buares,

Nice to see you keeping up the establishment end.... again ;-)
Do you mean the above-mentioned people's end ? Whose end are you keeping up yourself ?

[Atlas]

For those seeking answers, you can find them in this document:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-1.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-2.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-3.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-4.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-5.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-6.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-7.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-8.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-9.gif

[Atlas]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-10.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-11.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-12.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-13.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-14.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/divers/cern-lsag/LSAG-Report-15.gif
(Download PDF (http://lsag.web.cern.ch/lsag/LSAG-Report.pdf))

[lucidity]

If CERN were to be a real threat to the planet, how come the place isn't buzzing with UFOs? They are supposed to be seen around nuclear test facilities and missile sites so why not CERN if it's such a threat?

There are those who 'know' aliens exist and 'know' they are concerned about us and what we are ignorantly doing.

So why no CERN UFO footage from the locals?



Hi Nick,

There's no shortage of UFO footage over Geneva:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5fWkoxgvV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j9VlADB2rs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb8zsZe-Nes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7OgmzRwErw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfDIOfK4EpI

be happy

lucidity :-)

[Nick Matkin]

Thanks for those vids lucidity.

But I didn't find them very convincing. The last one was the most interesting, but it was so clear there'd have been lots of reports if real. And you can hear the guy videoing light a cigarette at 50 seconds! What? And no vocalisations of amazement, just a casual cough at 1 min 11 sec!

I'm looking for stuff around the CERN site, like those that buzz nuclear sites - but that rarely get photographed.

Nick

[Atlas]

The UFOs seen over Geneva have nothing to do with the LHC. Why would a spaceship hover above a facility that is as deep as 175 meters (574 ft) below the ground ? To warn the innocent population that CERN and the LHC are pure evil and are about to engulf them in a local black hole for the benefit of the reptilian ruling elite ? There are many reasons to be afraid of science but there is absolutely no reason to be afraid of science-fiction because science-fiction is just that: science-fiction, it is not science.

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Debunking mini black holes, stranglets and more!

1S9bu4aro8g

[cursichella1]

Thank you for this...Gotswami's quotes seemed a bit over the top. Good eye - glad you spotted the note in the comments. I'll follow up on this with Dr. Farrell.

Also, I've fixed the link above. Thank you! :)



That first link is dead cursichella1
Click on this link: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/02/10/we-honestly-have-no-****ing-idea-what-were-doing-admits-leading-quantum-physicist/ and replace the stars (****) in the URL with the correct letters.

Notice in the comments section of http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/cern-physicist-amit-goswami-we-have-no-idea-what-were-doing/:




I just contacted Dr. Goswami via his website and he quickly sent me back an email stating it was a satire and that he has contacted the website in question and has received no replies.

He asked for suggestions as to what to do next. I replied to contact Joseph and he would get a fair minded hearing here.

So, Joseph, perhaps you will be receiving an email from Dr. Goswami. Keep an eye out. Maybe you could arrange an interview with him about CERN and such

mxlance

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

if you go to the CERN website, look for the article on a quantum computing breakthrough late last year,
also an article from last month, talking about a breakthrough in quantum computing to the degree of being 100x as much memory as its predecessor,

this will scale beyond human comprehension once a few more tweaks are accomplished,

please read up on the fictional work "Steins gate" (japanese story) about an organization called "SERN" that has a monopoly on time travel and teleportation,
also the phenomenon known as the D-mail (a message sent through time)

etc....

it's not scifi anymore, but happening now, in our lifetimes.

whether or not the LHC being fired up again causes a reality storm, chaos before and after, is inconsequential in light of what these quantum computers will be able to make possible.

they will be able not only to simulate but create, by virtue of their own magical simplicity,
things that would otherwise have taken every particle in the universe to compute or more...

magic has become mundane and in the grasp of big money.




woe to the human race indeed...


read up on Nostradamus if you don't believe this thread or its source,
other people said it before this Indian man!

it's not just crap.
it's a valid future that humans should be aware of.







http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/60153
CERN COURIER
Feb 23, 2015
Quantum memory sticks?

Quantum information offers the possibility of unbreakable encryption. Manjin Zhong of the Australian National University in Canberra and colleagues have now made a quantum hard-drive with storage time 100 times better than possible previously. Using a ground-state hyperfine transition of europium ions in yttrium orthosilicate, and optically detected nuclear magnetic resonance techniques, the researchers achieved a decoherence rate for qubits of 8 × 10–5 per second over 100 ms – the timescale for light transmission at a global scale.

With dynamic decoupling, they reached coherence times of 370±60 minutes at 2 K. This is six hours of quantum storage, making it possible to imagine carrying quantum information in the future not via photons, but stored on quantum memory sticks. In addition to its obvious commercial importance, this work also opens the way to tests of quantum entanglement over very long distances.

Further reading
M Zhong et al. 2015 Nature 517 177.



http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/60149

http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/54018




michael crichton's haunting story:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_%28novel%29



In the middle of the New Mexico desert, a vacationing couple comes across an ill man wandering miles from town. They find the man, Joe Traub, is a physicist and an employee of a company called ITC. However, ITC's headquarters are mysteriously far from where Traub was found. Traub soon dies of a cardiac arrest. The hospital receives an MRI scan later, which reveals that Traub's blood veins did not match up to each other. Traub, being the last of his family, is taken and cremated by ITC to prevent any further evidence about his death from coming through to the public.

In the Dordogne region of France, Professor Edward Johnston leads a team of historians and archaeologists studying the remains of the medieval towns of Castelgard and La Roque. Suspicious of the detailed knowledge of the site shown by ITC (their funder), Johnston flies to ITC's headquarters in New Mexico to investigate. While he is gone, the archeologists make a startling discovery in the ruins; a lens from a pair of glasses as well as parchment with a request for help written in modern English, apparently in Professor Johnston's handwriting.

Researchers Chris Hughes, Kate Erickson, André Marek and David Stern fly to ITC and meet Robert Doniger, its founder, who tells them Johnston has used their quantum technology to travel to Dordogne in the year 1357, but has not returned as expected. Chris, Kate, and Marek agree to travel back themselves to find him. Stern remains behind, distrusting ITC's technology and believing they aren't telling them everything. They dress in period-specific clothing, but Doniger allows only biodegradable modern advances to go back, banning plastic and weapons.

When they arrive in the past, the team is plagued by misfortune. They are attacked by a group of horsemen led by Sir Guy, who kills the ITC military escorts and causing a grenade sneaked on the mission to go to the present, destroying the transit pad. Unable to return, Kate and Marek are taken away by the men of Lord Oliver of Castelgard.

Separated from the others, Chris accidentally declares himself as a noble to a boy who helps him and is led to Castelgard. The boy is revealed to be the Lady Claire in disguise, trying to escape from the leader of the horsemen, Sir Guy de Malegant. In the castle, Chris and André Marek find themselves challenged to a joust by Sir Guy and his second, Sir Charles de Gaune. Chris, instructed by Marek, lies on the ground after Sir Guy hits him on the chest on his second run. While Marek fights with Sir Charles de Gaune, Sir Guy tries to kill Chris. However, André fights with Sir Guy and manages to beat him. Lord Oliver orders the death of André and Chris, but Kate helps them escape Castelgard and they are pursued by Guy and his knight Sir Robert de Kere.

Lord Oliver believes that Johnston knows a secret passageway into the otherwise impenetrable castle of La Roque. Oliver's enemy Arnaut de Cervole, otherwise known as the Archpriest, is approaching the Dordogne to lay siege and Oliver wants the secret to defend La Roque. Johnston helps Oliver develop a weapon despite knowing that historically Oliver loses the siege, while Chris, André, and Kate use clues from the future to search for the passage themselves. Chris realizes that someone else is in the past with them and spying on their transmissions. Eventually Robert de Kere reveals that he is Rob Deckard, an ITC employee and former marine driven insane from the accumulation of "transcription errors," deformities that build up over multiple quantum trips. De Kere intends to take their trip home for himself.

Meanwhile at ITC, Stern and the vice president, Gordon, try desperately to repair the transit pads. It is revealed that Doniger is trying to use the past as a marketing tool.

After Lady Claire helps Kate, Chris, and André elude Arnaut's men, André enters La Roque as Johnston's assistant while Chris and Kate discover the passage. As Arnaut begins his siege, Oliver decides that Johnston is hiding information and takes him to a torture device known as Milady's Bath to drown him. Kate fights and kills Guy on the rafters of the Great Hall, while André and Chris are able to rescue Johnston when Arnaut himself intervenes and defeats Oliver in a duel. Arnaut thanks them and leaves Oliver to die. As the battle rages, de Kere attacks Chris to get his ceramic marker, but Chris manages to set him on fire with Johnston's automatic fire and spittle.

ITC and Stern finally repair the landing area just in time for the travelers to return. André—who realizes he has longed for this life—decides to remain in the past with Lady Claire while Chris, Kate, and Johnston return to 1999. When it becomes clear that Doniger had little regard for the lives of the travelers, the researchers and engineers, mainly John Gordon, send him to 1348—the outbreak of the Black Death.

In the epilogue, Chris and Kate are expecting a child together. The researchers find André and Lady Claire's graves and discover that André lived out a good and satisfying life. His gravestone reads a message in French to his companions, quoted from Richard Lionheart, – "Companions whom I loved, and still do love, ... tell them, my song."


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/04/MichaelCrighton_Timeline.jpg/200px-MichaelCrighton_Timeline.jpg


the grandfather paradox, and saying a prayer to saturn for unity:


In 1991, David Deutsch[2] came up with a proposal for the time evolution equations, with special note as to how it resolves the grandfather paradox and nondeterminism. However, his resolution to the grandfather paradox is considered unsatisfactory to some people, because it states the time traveller reenters another parallel universe, and that the actual quantum state is a quantum superposition of states where the time traveller does and does not exist.

see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger


the destroyers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echthroi

Echthroi (Ἐχθροί) is a Greek plural meaning "The Enemy" (literally "enemies"). The singular form of the word, Echthros (Ἐχθρός), is used in many versions and translations of the Bible for "enemy".

Historically used primarily in connection with biblical and classical subjects,[1] the term has more recently been used to refer to a fictitious type of evil being, principally in Madeleine L'Engle's "Time Quartet". A personification of the forces of impersonalization and nihilism,[2] they exist in both the macrocosmic and microcosmic level, counteracted principally by what L'Engle refers to as "Naming", or re-integration of a character with its best-motivated identity ('true self').[2] These concepts appear in one form or another in a number of L'Engle's books, as part of her recurring themes of good versus evil, interdependency, and the role of the individual in the cosmic scheme of things.


http://th00.deviantart.net/fs23/PRE/i/2007/347/6/8/_Link_Vs_Dark_Link_WIP2__by_DarkShadowRage.png



seeing yourself is an age old OMEN OF DOOM.

In fiction and folklore, a doppelgänger or doppelgaenger (/ˈdɒp(ə)lˌɡɛŋə/ or /-ˌɡæŋə/; German: [ˈdɔpəlˌɡɛŋɐ] ( listen), literally "double-goer") is a look-alike or double of a living person, sometimes portrayed as a paranormal phenomenon, and in some traditions as a harbinger of bad luck.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/How_they_met_themselves.jpg



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox



The grandfather paradox is a proposed paradox of time travel first described by the science fiction writer Nathaniel Schachner in his short story Ancestral Voices[1] and by René Barjavel in his 1943 book Le Voyageur Imprudent (Future Times Three).[2] The paradox is described as follows: the time traveller goes back in time and kills his grandfather before his grandfather meets his grandmother. As a result, the time traveller is never born. But, if he was never born, then he is unable to travel through time and kill his grandfather, which means the traveller would then be born after all, and so on.

Despite the name, the grandfather paradox does not exclusively regard the impossibility of one's own birth. Rather, it regards any action that eliminates the cause or means of traveling back in time. The paradox's namesake example is merely the most commonly thought of when one considers the whole range of possible actions. Another example would be using scientific knowledge to invent a time machine, then going back in time and (whether through murder or otherwise) impeding a scientist's work that would eventually lead to the invention of the time machine. An equivalent paradox is known (in philosophy) as autoinfanticide, going back in time and killing oneself as a baby.[3]

Assuming the causal link between the time traveller's present and future, the grandfather paradox that disrupts that link may be regarded as impossible (thus precluding the arbitrary alteration of one's fate). However, a number of hypotheses have been postulated[citation needed] to avoid the paradox, such as the idea that the past is unchangeable, so the grandfather must have already survived the attempted killing (as stated earlier); or the time traveller creates—or joins—an alternate timeline or parallel universe[4] in which the traveller was never born.

A variant of the grandfather paradox is the Hitler paradox or Hitler's murder paradox,[5] a fairly frequent trope in science fiction, in which the protagonist travels back in time to murder Adolf Hitler before he can instigate World War II. Rather than necessarily physically preventing time travel, the action removes any reason for the travel, along with any knowledge that the reason ever existed, thus removing any point in travelling in time in the first place.[6] Additionally, the consequences of Hitler's existence are so monumental and all-encompassing that for anyone born in the decades after World War II, it is likely that the grandfather paradox would directly apply in some way.[7]



what do they REALLY KNOW, and think will happen:


Saturn Devouring His Son is the name given to a painting by Spanish artist Francisco Goya. According to the traditional interpretation, it depicts the Greek myth of the Titan Cronus (in the title Romanised to Saturn), who, fearing that he would be overthrown by one of his children,[1] ate each one upon their birth. The work is one of the 14 Black Paintings that Goya painted directly onto the walls of his house sometime between 1819 and 1823. It was transferred to canvas after Goya's death and has since been held in the Museo del Prado in Madrid.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Francisco_de_Goya%2C_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo_%281819-1823%29.jpg/220px-Francisco_de_Goya%2C_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo_%281819-1823%29.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annihilation

Annihilation is defined as "total destruction" or "complete obliteration" of an object;[1] having its root in the Latin nihil (nothing). A literal translation is "to make into nothing".

In physics, the word is used to denote the process that occurs when a subatomic particle collides with its respective antiparticle, such as an electron colliding with a positron.[2] Since energy and momentum must be conserved, the particles are simply transformed into new particles. They do not disappear from existence. Antiparticles have exactly opposite additive quantum numbers from particles, so the sums of all quantum numbers of the original pair are zero. Hence, any set of particles may be produced whose total quantum numbers are also zero as long as conservation of energy and conservation of momentum are obeyed. When a particle and its antiparticle collide, their energy is converted into a force carrier particle, such as a gluon, W/Z force carrier particle, or a photon. These particles are afterwards transformed into other particles.[3]

During a low-energy annihilation, photon production is favored, since these particles have no mass. However, high-energy particle colliders produce annihilations where a wide variety of exotic heavy particles are created.



In Maya mythology, Camazotz (/kämäˈsots/) (alternate spellings Cama-Zotz, Sotz, Zotz) was a bat god. Camazotz means "death bat" in the K'iche' language. In Mesoamerica the bat was associated with night, death, and sacrifice.[1]


a family account of the "mayan days of darkness" from goldenageofgaia:


http://goldenageofgaia.com/the-2012-scenario/the-time-of-troubles/three-days-of-darkness-this-story-has-legs/

The theme has been taken up by other commentators of the “end times.” Here for instance is a native writer who relates a story her grandmother used to tell and calls it “Three Days Of Darkness, A Mayan Story.”

“My Granny was scolding we children when we was very young… she told us we knew nothing of the challenge of the darkness. She said when she was very young, she and all the people woke up to no sun. She said she was so frightened for it was very dark without the sun and also too cold. She told me and my brothers and my sisters and my cousins that we take too much for granted, that we take for granted the sunshine and the moonshine, but that we would never do this again when we had lived through the three days of darkness.

“Granny said that the elders knew right away what to do in this time of no sun and no light. That this time had always been prophesied by the elders and had happened many, many times before. The wise people always prepared for this darkness by saving the old tortillas (corn tortilla chips). And so the elders began to build the fires, for the fires must be lit or the darkness can drive some to madness. And the people began to pray together and sing together and burn the tortillas together for this is the sacred food that the Gods desire. Granny says that the smoke of the tortilla carries the message to the Gods to please bring back the sun.

“My Granny said that when the people become too wicked, when we forget to worship the Gods and have respect for all life, that the Gods block out the sun to remind us of the sacred ways and the importance of worship and of gratitude for life. She said that for three long days, the villagers prayed and prayed and prayed together and to cease their hunger, they not only burnt the tortilla but also ate it. She said that the h’men (the shamans) would begin to get excited and happy as they felt their prayers being received and then the darkness would lift. She said in her time it took three long days but that she had heard stories of the darkness taking longer to leave. She said the Gods only return the light when enough people were praying in earnest.

“My Granny said the darkness would come again because it always comes, because the people always stray far from their Creator and must be reminded time and time and time again… My Granny told us to behave well with good intentions. She told us this story to keep alive the memories and the knowledge of what to expect and of what to do. And so right now I save my old tortillas and I gather my firewood and I prepare my children and grandchildren with the stories because my body tells me that the time is almost here.” (1)

From time to time, New-Age or fundamentalist sites shout that three days of darkness will descend with some expected celestial event


the mystery of the wise and the foolish virgins:

http://www.biblestudy1.com/images/virgins9.jpg

its as simple as preparing for the night.


The Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins:

Matthew 25.1-13

“Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.

2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them,

4 but the wise took oil in their vessels (jars, flasks) with (in addition to) their lamps.

5 But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.

6 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’

7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps.

8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’

9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’

10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.

11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’

12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’

13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time


The children then travel to the dark planet of Camazotz which is entirely dominated by the Black Thing. Meg's father is trapped there. They find that all the inhabitants behave in a mechanistic way and seem to be all under the control of a single mind. At the planet's central headquarters (described as CENTRAL Central Intelligence) they discover a red-eyed man with telepathic abilities who can cast a hypnotic spell over their minds. He claims to know the whereabouts of their father. Charles Wallace deliberately looks into the red eyes of the man allowing himself to be taken over by the mind controlling planet in order to find their father. Under its influence, he takes Meg and Calvin to the place where Dr. Murry is being held prisoner because he would not succumb to the group mind. The planet turns out to be controlled by an evil disembodied brain with powerful telepathic abilities, which the inhabitants of Camazotz call "IT". Charles Wallace takes them to the place where IT is held, and in such close proximity to IT, are threatened by a possible telepathic takeover of their minds. With special powers from Mrs Who's glasses, Dr. Murry is able to "tesser" Calvin, Meg and himself away from Camazotz, but Charles Wallace is left behind, still under the influence of IT. The experience of tessering through The Black Thing nearly kills Meg, because Mr. Murry does not know how to protect her from the Black Thing which surrounds the planet. When they arrive on the neighboring planet of Ixchel, Meg is nearly frozen and paralyzed. Calvin and the Murrys are discovered by the planet's inhabitants: large, sightless "beasts" with tentacles and four arms who prove both wise and gentle. Meg's paralysis is cured under the care of one inhabitant, whom Meg nicknames "Aunt Beast". Meg also overcomes her anger at her father for leaving Charles Wallace on Camazotz, while realizing that parents can't fix everything and sometimes children can solve problems themselves.

When the trio of Mrs Whatsit, Mrs Who, and Mrs Which arrive, they charge Meg with rescuing Charles Wallace from IT, because only Meg has a strong enough bond with him, as their father had last seen Charles Wallace when he was a baby and Calvin had only just met him. They each give her gifts. Mrs Whatsit gives Meg her love. Mrs Who quotes to Meg a passage from the Bible about God choosing the foolish of the world to confound the wise, and the weak to confound the strong. Mrs Which tells Meg that she has one thing that IT does not have. Upon arriving at the building where IT is housed, Charles Wallace is still there under IT's influence. Meg realizes that the one thing she has that IT does not is love. She focuses all her love at Charles Wallace and is able to free him from IT's control. Mrs. Who, Mrs. Which and Mrs. Whatsit tesser the Murrys and Calvin back to Earth, where they are reunited with Mrs. Murry and the twins. Mrs. Whatsit says that, although she and the others like the spectacle of the family reuniting, they have to go somewhere. However, before Mrs. Whatsit finishes her sentence she and the others disappear.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0b/WrinkleInTimePBA1.jpg/220px-WrinkleInTimePBA1.jpg

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the absolute proof of what I am saying is in the math shown in the picture above,
the 8/5 ratio in the image beside the face, a gear on one side with 8 teeth and on the other 5 teeth,


8:5
16:10, also known as 8:5, is an aspect ratio mostly used for computer displays and tablet computers. The width of the display is 1.6 times its height. This ratio is close to the golden ratio " " which is approximately 1.618.

http://home.web.cern.ch/sites/home.web.cern.ch/files/styles/medium/public/image/experiment/2013/01/cms_0.jpeg?itok=amxaynNH


and finally frank:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad


The Butlerian Jihad is an event in the back-story of Frank Herbert's fictional Dune universe. Occurring over 10,000 years before the events chronicled in his 1965 novel Dune, this jihad leads to the outlawing of certain technologies, primarily "thinking machines," a collective term for computers and artificial intelligence of any kind. This prohibition is a key influence on the nature of Herbert's fictional setting.[1]

Herbert coined the name in honor of his friend, Frank Butler (who later worked as an attorney in Stanwood, Washington), because of a community movement Butler helped set in motion which resulted in the cancellation of the building of the R.H. Thomson Expressway through Seattle in 1970.[2]


Deus ex machina (Latin: [ˈdeʊs ɛks ˈmaː.kʰɪ.naː]: /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkiːnə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmækɨnə/;[1] plural: dei ex machina) is a calque from Greek ἀπὸ μηχανῆς θεός (apò mēkhanês theós), meaning "god from the machine".[2] The term has evolved to mean a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object. Depending on how it is done, it can be intended to move the story forward when the writer has "painted himself into a corner" and sees no other way out, to surprise the audience, to bring the tale to a happy ending, or as a comedic device.

[naste.de.lumina]

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29t-p0YIhCc

2015-03-15 => Re-Start of cern gates.

[heyokah]

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29t-p0YIhCc

2015-03-15 => Re-Start of cern gates.

Thanks Naste.

It was an operatic dance performance filmed inside CERN, called "Symmetry". It tells the story of a CERN researcher who rediscovers love through the song and dance of the infinite cosmos.

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"Symmetry," its website says, is an operatic sci-fi dance performance based on the work being performed at CERN.

It follows Lukas -- played by the film's choreographer Lukas Timulak -- a CERN physicist, hard at work using the LHC to search for the smallest particle in existence , when a ghostly woman played by soprano Claron McFadden appears, asking him if he loves the particle more than he loves himself, and, if he could, would he become one with the particle.

As Lukas increasingly tries to focus on his work, Claron's message becomes more insistent, as she carries him through time in search of answers -- tearing him away from the timelessness of physics and pointing him towards the timelessness of love and music.

As he travels through time and inside himself, the claustrophobic, machine setting of the Large Hadron Collider gives way to the bare, open, natural setting of Bolivia's Salar de Uyuni, the world's largest salt flat. The film becomes a study of complementary contrasts: art, science, dance, particle physics, computations, nature, the nanoscale and the universal.

"I didn't want to make a documentary to explain or understand modern physics in general, but rather interpret the complex material this institution is presenting," director Ruben van Leer told The Creators Project.

"And this is also what for me an opera film could do; give space for the audience to make up their own story, with their own imagination and make a journey like Lukas within themselves: a tiny, personal, world changing quantum-story."

read more: http://www.cnet.com/news/operatic-dance-performance-filmed-inside-cern/

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However, as can be seen in the promotional video naste.de.lumina posted, the dancers are performing a ritualistic like dance, similar in style to the Shiva Dance (or Dance of Destruction) just one week ahead of the firing up of the particle accelerator next week.

[Atlas]

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/6/005/09a/1ce/3b21da0.jpg
http://www.himalayanacademy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/January/January_09_2009/DIAS_CERN_nataraja.jpg


The statue of Nataraja, the Cosmic Dancer, Dr. Aymar, DG of CERN, Dr. Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary to the Government of India

Source: CERN Director General Outlines Seven-point Strategy for European Laboratory (http://press.web.cern.ch/press-releases/2004/06/cern-director-general-outlines-seven-point-strategy-european-laboratory)

[naste.de.lumina]

The statue of Nataraja, the Cosmic Dancer, Dr. Aymar, DG of CERN, Dr. Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary to the Government of India

Source: CERN Director General Outlines Seven-point Strategy for European Laboratory (http://press.web.cern.ch/press-releases/2004/06/cern-director-general-outlines-seven-point-strategy-european-laboratory)

They reported in the description of the statue ('The statue of Nataraja' - 'God' Shiva) the Cosmic Dancer is also the 'god' of Destruction?

[Atlas]

They reported in the description of the statue ('The statue of Nataraja' - 'God' Shiva) the Cosmic Dancer is also the 'god' of Destruction?

A special plaque next to the Shiva statue explains the significance of the metaphor of Shiva's cosmic dance with quotations from Fritjof Capra:


Hundreds of years ago, Indian artists created visual images of dancing Shivas in a beautiful series of bronzes. In our time, physicists have used the most advanced technology to portray the patterns of the cosmic dance. The metaphor of the cosmic dance thus unifies ancient mythology, religious art and modern physics.
http://www.himalayanacademy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ardra/ardra619.jpg
A 10th century Chola dynasty bronze sculpture of Shiva, the Lord of the Dance at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nataraja

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[heyokah]

The significance of the Nataraja (Nataraj) sculpture is said to be that Shiva is shown as the source of all movement within the cosmos, represented by the arch of flames.

The purpose of the dance is to release men from illusion of the idea of the "self" and of the physical world. The cosmic dance was performed in Chidambaram in South India, called the center of the universe by some Hindus. The gestures of the dance represent Shiva's five activities, creation (symbolized by the drum), protection (by the "fear not" hand gesture), destruction (by the fire), embodiment (by the foot planted on the ground), and release (by the foot held aloft).

As Nataraja (Sanskrit: Lord of Dance) Shiva represents apocalypse and creation as he dances away the illusory world of Maya transforming it into power and enlightenment.

The symbolism of Siva Nataraja is religion, art and science merged as one. In God's endless dance of creation, preservation, destruction, and paired graces is hidden a deep understanding of our universe.

Read more: http://www.lotussculpture.com/nataraja1.htm

[heyokah]

Attempt To Re-Create 'Big Bang' Begins March 2015
Will Gates Of Hell Soon Open To The Destruction Of All Creation?

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THE LIVING GOD, THE LORD GOD OF HEAVEN, CREATED ORDER OUT OF CHAOS -THE ANTAGONIST OF MENS EXISTENCE (SATAN), WHOM CERNS STATUE OF 'SHIVA' REPRESENTS IN HIS COSMIC DANCE OF CREATION AND DESTRUCTION, IS NOW IN THE PROCESS OF REVERSING THE PROCESS OF CREATION, AND IS NOW GOING FOR DESTRUCTION. "CHAOS OUT OF ORDER" AND THE ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION OF A ONCE BEAUTIFUL PLANET AND IT'S INHABITANTS IS NOW ONLY A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AWAY!



With the reopening of CERN's 'large hadron collider' in March of 2015, two leading and well respected scientists, theoretical physicist and cosmologist Stephen Hawking and Astrophysicist Neil de Grasse Tyson, have recently issued independent warnings that, when looked at through the eyes of the supernatural war taking place right now upon our planet Earth between the forces of good and evil, send us a clear message: "This is it!". The reopening of CERN will bring together scientists playing with unknown forces, attempting to re-create the 'big bang', as shared in the 1st video below, the moment of the creation of the universe.

Dr. Stephen Hawking recently warned that the reactivation in March of CERN's large hadron collider could pose grave dangers to our planet...the ultimate reality check we are warned. Hawking has come straight out and said the 'God particle' found by CERN "could destroy the universe" leaving time and space collapsed as shared in the 2nd video. Is CERN the most dangerous thing in the cosmos that could lead to the ultimate destruction of the Earth and the entire universe? Recent developments prove to us the scientific community is no longer able to explain 'reality' without looking at the 'supernatural'. Will we soon learn CERN is really the 'ultimate stargate' and one of the gate-keepers most closely guarded secrets? Will this be the way man attempts to break the ultimate 'God barrier', an attempt to encounter demi-God's in an all-out rush towards the destruction of all creation? We understand they won't be releasing the secrets until they're prepared to release them.

Does CERN headquarter's symbol of Shiva, dancing the cosmic dance of death and destruction, signal the TRUE purpose of CERN's existence? A look at the 'Shiva' (the Hindu God of Destruction) symbology surrounding CERN's headquarters gives us the beginning of what we need to know. "The men who would play God, in searching for the God particle, are truly going to find more than they bargained for as they open the gates of hell" we are warned by Stephen Quayle, "they will find inter-dimensional beings who have a taste for human flesh and humanities destruction. Most scientists, in lacking an understanding of the 'supernatural entities' that are going to confront them, are way beyond their ability to comprehend, let alone control, the forces of Pandora's box that will be released."

Astrophysicist Neil de Grasse Tyson has also sounded the alarm in a hypothetical manner by telling anyone who might want to 'blow up a planet' how to do so...is this CERN's attempt to do so by attempting to 'recreate' the big bang within a man made structure that has frightened Stephen Hawking so much? Do they know that they know that they know what they're doing?

http://allnewspipeline.com/CERN_Recreate_Big_Bang.php

[naste.de.lumina]

http://www.himalayanacademy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/January/January_09_2009/DIAS_CERN_nataraja.jpg


The statue of Nataraja, the Cosmic Dancer, Dr. Aymar, DG of CERN, Dr. Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary to the Government of India

Atomic Bomb father citing Bagavadguitá, the destroyer of worlds.

It would be an amazing "coincidence" that all these famous scientists (physicists) theoretically 'atheists', have interest and knowledge about the mythology of a 'Hindu' god?

n8H7Jibx-c0

This is a question to be answered by 'coincidences theorists'!!!!

[Flash]

http://www.himalayanacademy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/January/January_09_2009/DIAS_CERN_nataraja.jpg


The statue of Nataraja, the Cosmic Dancer, Dr. Aymar, DG of CERN, Dr. Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary to the Government of India

Atomic Bomb father citing Shiva, the destroyer of worlds.

It would be an amazing "coincidence" that all these famous scientists (physicists) theoretically 'atheists', have interest and knowledge about the mythology of a 'Hindu' god?

n8H7Jibx-c0

This is a question to be answered by 'coincidence theorists'!!!!

All those scientists supposedly atheist are rather a very bright breed of people and most have read more than what is to be found in their field of expertise. I am not surprised at all that some may genuinely have spiritual search withing their being.

Furthermore, few of them are definitely believers in a kind of cosmic Creator, whom's name or definition may differ depending on their beliefs or culture or knowledge. I have met a few of them, high scientist geniuses, they are not all atheists.

[arwen]

Dunno about anyone else, but I have been feeling utterly drained these past two days, and I note Kauilapele also noted this feeling - he called it "slog" - which is a perfect description. (https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2015/03/12/kp-message-3-12-15-energetic-slogginess/)

So it was interesting read that CERN is powering up today, March 13, 2015.

Extracts:


As usual, the majority of humanity has no idea of the true threat of CERN and how it is trying to be used in the Draco/Annunaki’s war on human consciousness. The mainstream media is diligently programming humanity to assure them that the investment of billions of dollars for a particle accelerator is necessary in order to advance scientific knowledge of our origins out of dark matter. What we are really facing is a final attempt by the madmen behind the curtain to reset the world in a hit and run scenario...

...CERN is scheduled to start its faster levels of firing stages again on Friday the 13th of this month, and subsequently will be ramped up during the Spring Equinox March 20, 2015. Coincidentally at that time there will be a solar eclipse. Throughout history we have seen that equinoxes, solstices, new moons, and solar eclipses are used as powerful black magic ritual dates. With that being said, it is imperative to understand what CERN really is.

Full article highly recommended: CERN And The War On Consciousness. (http://in5d.com/cern-and-the-war-on-consciousness/)

[Apulu]

This is an interesting notion. I think I will indeed attempt to keep an eye on what CERN is up to next time I feel such a 'slog' - Wednesday and Thursday this week were nearly a complete write-off for me as for productivity and energy levels. I felt like I could hardly motivate myself to do anything, such was the lethargy, and people close to me were commenting on feeling the same kind of thing. My girlfriend was speaking to someone who described it as 'like walking through sludge"!

[DeDukshyn]

Just skimmed it a bit ... interesting take ... I think I'll dig into this notion a bit more ...

[Alpha141]

Hey guys,

There was another threat with some of this topic covered but not exclusive as you have set up. A worthy one for sure so the below has some stuff well worth having a listen ;) (if you haven't yet)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80202-Ex-CIA-Engineer-Dr-Robert-Duncan-explains-how-directed-weaponry-works-on-targeted-individuals&p=936784#post936784

Cheers

[heyokah]

Found this article on the Giza Death Star(Joseph P. Farrell's) Facebook page.
The link to the article was broken because of the word fu%k in it ;-)

https://www.google.fr/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwaterfordwhispersnews.com%2F&rls=com.microsoft:nl-NL:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGHP_nlFR537&gfe_rd=cr&ei=4-gFVeuLKo3FWPrJgagL&gws_rd=ssl#rls=com.microsoft:nl-NL:IE-SearchBox&q=http:%2F%2Fwaterfordwhispersnews.com%2FDr.+Amit+Goswami+




“We Honestly Have No ****ing Idea What We’re Doing”, Admits Leading Quantum Physicist

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THEORETICAL Quantum Physicist Dr. Amit Goswami admitted today that he, and his peers, have absolutely ‘no ****ing idea’ what they’re doing, and claims they were no nearer than prehistoric man to figuring out the Universe.

“We have been just winging it to tell you the truth,” explained the 78-year-old in an exclusive interview with WWN. “Seriously, I haven’t a clue what’s going on. Either does anyone else in my field. We keep proving stuff that never actually happened”.

“Our cover is blown, what can I say? He added.

Dr. Goswami’s comments came after yet another alleged breakthrough in quantum mechanics which claims the universe has existed forever, as opposed to being created by a ‘big bang’.

“Over the years there have been just a handful of us pretending to know something about the universe that no one else does,” he went on. “But this is all lies to feed the charade. I’ve had some great times during the years; travelling the world, and giving talks on our pretend finds”.

When asked how he got away with it for so long, he replied: “I found out a long time ago that everything can be proven with a mathematical equation. Now, I mean everything; from unicorns, fire-breathing dragons, God and even the G-spot. None of it is true. Me and the handful that know the truth have been riding the Quantum Physicist celebrity wave for quite some time now, but it must end – before someone gets hurt”.

The University of Oregon professor warned that the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, known as CERN, could potentially wipe out the entire planet if the project is not put to a halt.

“Seriously, when myself, Higgs and Ben (Benjamin Lockspeiser CERN’s first president) first pitched the idea, we never thought it would get funding. It was gonna cost billions for Christs sake,” he recalled. “**** knows what the thing does – no one does. Firing particles at each other at the speed of light can’t end well. I’m just worried now we took the joke too far”.

Ending the interview, professor Goswami apologised for “spoofing” everybody over the years.

“I’m coming near the end of my days now and I just want to get this off my chest,” he said. “I just hope the world can forgive us”.



This is Joseph Farrell's comment on it.

http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/cern-physicist-amit-goswami-we-have-no-idea-what-were-doing/

[Atlas]

Found this article on the Giza Death Star(Joseph P. Farrell's) Facebook page.

Notice in the comments section of http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/cern-physicist-amit-goswami-we-have-no-idea-what-were-doing/:




I just contacted Dr. Goswami via his website and he quickly sent me back an email stating it was a satire and that he has contacted the website in question and has received no replies.

He asked for suggestions as to what to do next. I replied to contact Joseph and he would get a fair minded hearing here.

So, Joseph, perhaps you will be receiving an email from Dr. Goswami. Keep an eye out. Maybe you could arrange an interview with him about CERN and such

mxlance

Source: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80368-Quantum-Physicist-Warns-CERN-s-LHC-Could-Destroy-The-Planet&p=938535&viewfull=1#post938535

[heyokah]

Found this article on the Giza Death Star(Joseph P. Farrell's) Facebook page.

Notice in the comments section of http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/cern-physicist-amit-goswami-we-have-no-idea-what-were-doing/:




I just contacted Dr. Goswami via his website and he quickly sent me back an email stating it was a satire and that he has contacted the website in question and has received no replies.

He asked for suggestions as to what to do next. I replied to contact Joseph and he would get a fair minded hearing here.

So, Joseph, perhaps you will be receiving an email from Dr. Goswami. Keep an eye out. Maybe you could arrange an interview with him about CERN and such

mxlance

Source: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80368-Quantum-Physicist-Warns-CERN-s-LHC-Could-Destroy-The-Planet&p=938535&viewfull=1#post938535

OMG, I totally missed that one :o

This one is from yesterday


THAT CERN THING AGAIN: NEW LASER PARTICLE ACCELERATOR TO BE BUILT IN (YOU GUESSED IT) EUROPE

February 27, 2015 I ran a blog called CERN PHYSICIST AMIT GOSWAMI: WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE’RE DOING…, which, as many of you were kind enough to point out to me, came from one of the proliferating "satire" websites that are now popping up all over the place.
Well, and with due apologies to Dr. Gotswami, I fell for it. Gotswami is one of my favorite "paradigm questioners" as he's one of those physicists increasingly questioning the merely materialist paradigm on which so much modern physics, and for that matter, modern biology, have been based.
In any case, and again with apologies to Dr. Gotswami, I've been from the get-go unsettled about CERN's Large Hadron Collider, and what appears - to my amateur eyes at least - a track record of obfuscation.
Yes we found the Higgs; no we didn't find the Higgs; maybe we found the Higgs, but we found some superluminal "things"; no we didn't find superluminal things because Pope Einstein said so; but whatever we found, maybe we should reconsider recasting all the equations of theoretical physics in dimensionless form; and oh, by the way, Hawking thinks maybe it's a good idea not to turn the thing back on because it might destroy the planet.

Well, as I stated in the above article, those two things - Hawking's warning and the dimensionless equation thing - still leave me rather breathless, for it's probably the most significant indicator that maybe we're not being told the whole story by the good folks at Shiva-toting CERN.
Maybe, maybe not, but last year you'll recall, China announced that it wanted to build an even larger version of CERN's Large Hadron Collider (see: China plans super collider).
At the time of this announcement, and to this day, I entertain the idea that China has done so because it is perhaps suspicious of what CERN has been saying about what it is doing.

But as a commenter on my original CERN-Gotswami article pointed out, Europe is planning a new breed of truly awesome particle accelerators using enormous and extreme-ultra-high powered x-ray and perhaps even gamma ray lasers to probe the structures of atomic nuclei (among other things, which we'll get to in a moment), all of which is to be built in Romania:

World’s brightest laser pulses will create matter out of nothing – Prof. Wolfgang Sandner

EC approves funding for giant Romanian laser

Now, there are a number of things to note from the first article, and one thing to note from the second:

1.The major spokesman for the project appears to be Dr Wolfgang Sandner;

2.The lasers - Extreme Light Infrastructure - will generate more power than all the world's power stations combined, in short, extremely high intensity bursts, in the range of 100,000,000,000,000,000 watts of power;

3.When focussed on material surfaces short bursts of time, the surface of materials "instantly" enters a plasma state;

4.The Romanian laser facility will use these lasers in the gamma frequency of the spectrum, in other words, these lasers are actually "grazers", favorite plaything along with their less-powerful x-ray lasers of yesteryear's Star Wars or Strategic Defense initiative program; and finally,

5.The purpose of all this laser-grazer-driven alchemy is to study matter under the extreme heat and pressure conditions of stars, and perhaps, says Dr. Sandner, to be able to accelerate much heavier particles than conventional accelerators and perhaps even to create electron positrons (i.e., anti-matter) "out of nothing" using nothing but light.

And to this, add one more tidbit, noted by the second article: "The light source for the Romanian facility is expected to comprise at least two “Apollon” type Ti: sapphire lasers, each capable of 10 PW power levels using the chirped-pulse amplification technique pioneered at the University of Rochester in the 1980s."(Emphasis added).

Now, the mention of sapphires here is perhaps mildly curious, since sapphires also figured heavily into Soviet experiments using them to detect gravity waves, which physics historian Nick Herbert wrote about, and which I mentioned in my very first book in alternative speculation, The Giza Death Star.

What all this adds up to is, I suspect, something profoundly disturbing, and my commentator on the original CERN article that I posted on Feb 27, 2015, mentioned the possibility: could we (in our high octane speculation of the day) be looking at the public face of a super-weapons project? After all, researching matter under such intense conditions, even creating anti-matter, using grasers, is an indicator that the methods of creating reusable x-ray and gamma ray lasers, the problem that daunted the 1980s "Star Wars" project, has been solved to some degree.
And note also, that the power output of these lasers is of quasi-class one category in the Kardashev scale, i.e., power is being produced exceeding the output of the planet's powerplants.
And I suspect the reader will also have thought the same thing I thought: if these lasers can be used to create plasmas and even anti-matter, then perhaps they can be used to create anti-matter for total annihilation-reactions with matter, i.e., for disintegration in the "classic ray gun" sense.
Scale up these research possibilities into something even more powerful and then put it into space with the requisite power source and you have... well... potentially something that could dustify the errant asteroid... add to this those 1960s Air Force proposals (or for that matter, the recent Japanese proposals to turn the MOON into a microwave generating powerplant to beam "power" back to the Earth) for microwave satellites collecting power and beaming them to (uninhabitable) regions on the planet where it would be collected in "rectennae" and converted to electrical power...
The bottom line here is that the technology exists, and is going to be built. Thus, the real problem is, have they already been built, and to much larger scales?
I'll leave you to answer that one for yourself, but for my part, I have a very uneasy intuition about the answer to that question, and I needn't mention what that intuition is...

For the links, read the article.
http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/03/that-cern-thing-again-new-laser-particle-accelerator-to-be-built-in-you-guessed-it-europe/

[naste.de.lumina]

Something in Shiva's dance holds my attention (occurs at the end of the video).
I can not tell why this happens consciously. Everything happens in the mind.

tH0rrRfDDYI

[heyokah]

Something in Shiva's dance holds my attention (occurs at the end of the video).
I can not tell why this happens consciously. Everything happens in the mind.

tH0rrRfDDYI

Thanks for the video and the Janus principle.
Yes, in that last part of the video that dance, of which we talked before, was performed ....

Does CERN’s symbol of Shiva, dancing the cosmic dance of death and destruction, signal the TRUE purpose of CERN’s existence?

'Are the men who would play God, in searching for the God particle, truly going to find more than they bargained for as they open the the gates of hell?', as Steve Quayle wonders, or as in the Janus myth, open the doors of war?



http://i57.tinypic.com/2cz8s9s.jpg

Btw, I agree with your signature :)

[CD7]

Something in Shiva's dance holds my attention (occurs at the end of the video).


I have had constant visions of a Cosmic dance that has absolutely NO REFERENCE here to compare ...the power...the Spin...geometry in light speed motion...synchronistic movements between many sometimes Only one...always female in appearance. If these visions are connected to an existing cosmic dance...IT IS Something magnificent and extremely difficult to convey in words...as ive said has NO REFERENCE here to compare. These representations in videos are very elementary

[Maia Gabrial]

FYI lots more going on at CERN than we thought! Even before I started finding out what CERN was all about, I sensed it was no good.

All I can say is I WASN"T ASKED whether I wanted this or not. Were any of you?
So, I GiVE NO CONSENT TO THIS NOW! :wizard:

Some knowledge was meant to understand at a higher spiritual level because it means spiritual responsibility. Not many on this world are there yet.

These people don't speak for me. How about you?

ireFSDK0yHE

[donk]

Anybody notice the category this found its way into? We are truly in a terrifying reality if a miles long particle collider is a form of "alternative medicine" :p

[ThePythonicCow]

Anybody notice the category this found its way into? We are truly in a terrifying reality if a miles long particle collider is a form of "alternative medicine" :p

As Bill noted a day ago, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80724-Amendments-to-the-Forum-s-Menu-Structure&p=943103&viewfull=1#post943103): "Some existing threads may best to be moved to a more appropriate new home. That I'll do a little later, too. (Please be patient! This might take a little time.)"

[Maia Gabrial]

I wonder if Shiva is stupid enough to destroy all of life even itself....?

[Maia Gabrial]

I posted this before I saw the "Should we be con-CERN-ed" thread. Sorry about that. Mods if you can merge this, thank you.

[Atlas]

xcMmiKnbFyY
The LHC: A stronger machine
by Cian O'Luanaigh - Last updated 12 Mar 2015, 13.10

In early 2013, after three years of running, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) shut down for planned maintenance. Hundreds of engineers and technicians spent about two years consolidating and strengthening the accelerator in preparation for running at the higher collision energy of 13 TeV, nearly double the collision energy of the LHC's first run.

Jean-Philippe Tock of the CERN Technology department led the Superconducting Magnets and Circuits Consolidation project during the shutdown. His team's focus was on consolidating more than 10,000 high-current splices in some 1695 interconnections between magnets in the LHC.

GWyg-ZyCVs4
Engineers Anna Chrul and Mirko Pojer describe work in the tunnel: the safety release valves for dispelling helium safely from the magnets; and the process of adding a shunt to each splice within the interconnection to provide an alternate pathway for the 11,000-amp current to safely pass from magnet to magnet in the event of a fault.

CERN Director for accelerators and technology, Frédérick Bordry, takes us through the implications of running the accelerator at the higher collision energy of 13 TeV, and mentions some of the requirements for the machine to reach this new energy frontier – such as radiation-resistant electronics and a high-quality vacuum.

Finally Katy Foraz, activities coordinator for LS1 (long shutdown 1), describes the logistical challenges of coordinating the maintenance work. As an example of the scale of the project, she tells us that over this two-year period the access lift to the LHC tunnel went up and down more than 400,000 times!

Now teams are working hard for the upcoming restart. The first circulating beams of protons in the LHC are planned for the week beginning 23 March, and first 13 TeV collisions are expected in late May to early June.

Source: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2015/03/lhc-stronger-machine

[Nick Matkin]

Has CERN replaced HAARP as the new Doomsday Machine?

Given the age and size of the universe, and the probable wide-spread existence of intelligent life, if CERN were to destroy the universe (or whatever hyperbole is being used) surely the inhabitants of some other planet at some time would have done it by now. The fact that we are all still here means:

1) It has been tried, possibly many, many times by different civilizations, and destruction on the universe is impossible.
2) We are the only civilization in the history of the universe to be clever (or stupid enough) enough to build one. (Surely very unlikely.)
3) At least some of the black holes we can observe are not collapsed stars, but the cataclysmic result of a CERN-like project from a now self-destructed civilization with more knowledge than wisdom.

If it's that dangerous, I expect any number of alien types would do something about it. I mean, I doubt they'd like a black hole appearing in their neighbourhood would they?

Nick

[donk]

IiI'm

Anybody notice the category this found its way into? We are truly in a terrifying reality if a miles long particle collider is a form of "alternative medicine" :p

As Bill noted a day ago, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80724-Amendments-to-the-Forum-s-Menu-Structure&p=943103&viewfull=1#post943103): "Some existing threads may best to be moved to a more appropriate new home. That I'll do a little later, too. (Please be patient! This might take a little time.)"

Thanks, that's why I said "found its way into" and had the emoticon...it was a joke...I know my sense of humor isn't as good as buares' but I am not
Quite as stupid as he tries to make me out to seem.

Sorry I'm done trying to have fun around here, thanks for the heads up paul, very helpful

[Atlas]

xcMmiKnbFyY
The LHC: A stronger machine
by Cian O'Luanaigh - Last updated 12 Mar 2015, 13.10

In early 2013, after three years of running, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) shut down for planned maintenance. Hundreds of engineers and technicians spent about two years consolidating and strengthening the accelerator in preparation for running at the higher collision energy of 13 TeV, nearly double the collision energy of the LHC's first run.

Jean-Philippe Tock of the CERN Technology department led the Superconducting Magnets and Circuits Consolidation project during the shutdown. His team's focus was on consolidating more than 10,000 high-current splices in some 1695 interconnections between magnets in the LHC.

GWyg-ZyCVs4
Engineers Anna Chrul and Mirko Pojer describe work in the tunnel: the safety release valves for dispelling helium safely from the magnets; and the process of adding a shunt to each splice within the interconnection to provide an alternate pathway for the 11,000-amp current to safely pass from magnet to magnet in the event of a fault.

CERN Director for accelerators and technology, Frédérick Bordry, takes us through the implications of running the accelerator at the higher collision energy of 13 TeV, and mentions some of the requirements for the machine to reach this new energy frontier – such as radiation-resistant electronics and a high-quality vacuum.

Finally Katy Foraz, activities coordinator for LS1 (long shutdown 1), describes the logistical challenges of coordinating the maintenance work. As an example of the scale of the project, she tells us that over this two-year period the access lift to the LHC tunnel went up and down more than 400,000 times!

Now teams are working hard for the upcoming restart. The first circulating beams of protons in the LHC are planned for the week beginning 23 March, and first 13 TeV collisions are expected in late May to early June.

Source: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2015/03/lhc-stronger-machine

[RunningDeer]

Anybody notice the category this found its way into? We are truly in a terrifying reality if a miles long particle collider is a form of "alternative medicine" :p

As Bill noted a day ago, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80724-Amendments-to-the-Forum-s-Menu-Structure&p=943103&viewfull=1#post943103): "Some existing threads may best to be moved to a more appropriate new home. That I'll do a little later, too. (Please be patient! This might take a little time.)"

It's a monumental, tedious task you've taken on. A double-double thanks-thanks to you :cow::cow:.

[And to anyone else back there. :wave:]

[eagle0027]

As with many things on this planet.......most of the folks involved probably feel with all their heart that they are doing what is right to the best of their ability With just cause...whether it is politics ,war or in this case---as above.

Most on this site are well aware of how mind controlled and directed many are---for someone or some beings end game. Quite possibly all involved with building this thing for quite probably someone elses use.

Comes to mind ,the real purpose of this is something along the lines of either being able to create portals at will??or how about beings wanting to either come in or go out through a portal or dimentional tear that they cant create themselves??is not now available ??or because they are nonphysical??

If this is the case -would probably mean that the physical geographical coordinates would have to be factored in .........Is there any correlation in this regard that anyone has heard of???

be well---Eagle

[heyokah]

Indeed, our culture civilization follows the ethics of a technological civilization, as all industrial cultures do:


‘Technological civilization is programmed by the principle that something ought to be done because it is technologically possible.
If it is possible to build nuclear weapons, they must be built, even if they might destroy us all.
Once this principle is accepted, humanist Values (something has to be done because it is needed by man) are Dethroned and technological development becomes the foundation of ethics. ‘ Erich Fromm

This ethical statement explains what LHC is designed to do. To make a bigger, more powerful atomic cannon, because we now have the capacity.

CERN will undertake this mission regardless of its harmful collateral effects to mankind.
This project also means big contracts for technological companies and jobs for Nuclear Physicists, many unemployed since the end of the Cold War.
As CERN said: ‘Whatever the discoveries ahead for physicists working at LHC, the experiments will’, according to CERN’s Chief Scientific Officer, Jos Engelen,“keep physicists off street corners for a long time to come’.



We men, obtain power from machines of energy and information and get hooked to them, evolving those machines that now are vastly overpowering our capacities as a species, without restrain.

But we do not stop. We justify always new machines and weapons: Cars keep evolving in speed, well over the 70 miles legal speed they need – yet billions are wasted in making them faster, despite being illegal.

The LHC and its corporation CERN will also keep evolving accelerators beyond the energies this planet can stand till it blows it away. And the media system which markets anything that has to do with ‘death’, will cheer those ‘death events’ that are destroying the planet. It is this techno-utopian determinism what leaves the individual aside, as a puppet of an Industrial System which rules the future.


These are quotes of the CERNTRUTH site, the article "A ± symbol will decide the fate of the World". (https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/a-%c2%b1-symbol-will-define-the-fate-of-the-world/)

~~~~

Here a video of 2009 which is certainly worth watching.

Btw, is one of the presenter's voices Bill Ryan's?..... or his brother? :confused:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5K9DvD5T8w?list=PLR03Wazmqjc91IQdfNT70PgP N0L73fBs8

[Carmody]

Well, the energies used in a dimensional craft, or a anti-gravity craft are far far lower, and directed into a specific targeted area to boot. So I'm not too worried about the LHC, overall.

Another example, is the statement of the vacuum of the system being greater than that which lies between the earth and the moon. (this new stage of the LHC)

I've seen it said that the most perfect vacuum possible, is that which is created by brown's gas. When ignited, a volume of it shrinks by a factor of 1386.

[Tyy1907]

FYI lots more going on at CERN than we thought! Even before I started finding out what CERN was all about, I sensed it was no good.

All I can say is I WASN"T ASKED whether I wanted this or not. Were any of you?
So, I GiVE NO CONSENT TO THIS NOW! :wizard:



Some knowledge was meant to understand at a higher spiritual level because it means spiritual responsibility. Not many on this world are there yet.

These people don't speak for me. How about you?

ireFSDK0yHE


I second that. Don't have my consent either.

This big CERN s&@$ show will get shut down as have all other attempts at causing large scale problems.

[Aurvandil]

Scary. On Friday, the solar eclipse is the first since 1662 to occure on a spring equinox. It is also unique since a supermoon also will occur:

Universe today (http://www.universetoday.com/119241/a-complete-guide-to-the-march-20th-total-solar-eclipse/)

I have tried to find if something occult also happened in 1662 but has of now not found anything, otherwise than the founding of The Royal society which was to be "a Colledge for the Promoting of Physico-Mathematicall Experimentall Learning". Several of the first members were, as often in those days, interested in the occult, among them John Dryden, Walter Charleton and Robert Boyle (who also worked with Isaac Newton on alchemic issues). Link to Royal Society (https://royalsociety.org/about-us/history/)

[heyokah]

I wonder if Shiva is stupid enough to destroy all of life even itself....?

Shiva might not be that stupid, but some arrogant scientists might be.....



~~~~

Here a video of 2009 which is certainly worth watching.

Btw, is one of the presenter's voices Bill Ryan's?..... or his brother? :confused:s



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5K9DvD5T8w?list=PLR03Wazmqjc91IQdfNT70PgP N0L73fBs8

[Sunny-side-up]

Scary. On Friday, the solar eclipse is the first since 1662 to occure on a spring equinox. It is also unique since a supermoon also will occur:

Universe today (http://www.universetoday.com/119241/a-complete-guide-to-the-march-20th-total-solar-eclipse/)

I have tried to find if something occult also happened in 1662 but has of now not found anything, otherwise than the founding of The Royal society which was to be "a Colledge for the Promoting of Physico-Mathematicall Experimentall Learning". Several of the first members were, as often in those days, interested in the occult, among them John Dryden, Walter Charleton and Robert Boyle (who also worked with Isaac Newton on alchemic issues). Link to Royal Society (https://royalsociety.org/about-us/history/)


One of interest in that year:
Sep 12th - John Flamsteed sees partial solar eclipse, stirs his interest in astronomy
The crater Flamsteed on the Moon is named after him.
The asteroid (4987) Flamsteed is named in his honour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Flamsteed

[sigma6]

Why do I visualize a crater a mile around the accelerator?... (from a nano second of instantaneous creation and dissipation of a miniature black hole...) LOL!

I can also visualize anyone outside the event horizon, looking stunned with traditional cartoon faces covered in gunpowder smoke, and pushed back straightened hair... :-D

[Tyy1907]

At 32:00 mark Dr. Sam Mugzzi speaks of CERN and how her ET contacts told her it would absolutely not be allowed to cause any harm and how CERN was the cabals "solution" to the sudden high frequency waves that are uplifting the planet and us. The cabal acting on behalf of the archon tic entities that are losing ground fast.

Make of it what you will. Does it feel right?

OwPOe6R2ixg

[observer]

Anybody notice the category this found its way into? We are truly in a terrifying reality if a miles long particle collider is a form of "alternative medicine" :p



Anybody notice the category this found its way into? We are truly in a terrifying reality if a miles long particle collider is a form of "alternative medicine" :p

As Bill noted a day ago, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80724-Amendments-to-the-Forum-s-Menu-Structure&p=943103&viewfull=1#post943103): "Some existing threads may best to be moved to a more appropriate new home. That I'll do a little later, too. (Please be patient! This might take a little time.)"


Allow me to state, for the record, I did not start this thread in an "alternative medicine" forum. It was started in a science discussion forum. How it got into an alternative medicine forum is anyone's guess. But, thank you for the bump.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

The point I've been attempting to focus upon with the direction of this thread is rooted in the fact that everything we are told is a small part of a much larger lie - everything !!!

Our three dimensional universe had no beginning, nor will it have an end.

It is eternal and a function of a much larger multiverse, whose structure is described by the "Electromagnetic Spectrum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum)".


Immutable Fact: Plasma is now recognized as the Fourth State of Matter, along with Solid, Liquid, and Gas.
Immutable Fact: Plasma cannot exist outside of an electromagnetic field.
Immutable Fact: Vast rivers of Plasma have been observed, spanning millions of light-years of space, throughout the visible universe, suggesting the presence of vast electromagnetic fields permeating the same.
Immutable Fact: Electromagnetic fields are trillions of times more powerful than gravity.
Obvious Conclusion: Quantum Physics is following a false prophet, in search of sub atomic particles that don't really exist, while ignoring the obvious - Electromagnetic generated plasma.


Even Einstein had a problem with the idea of Black Holes, which lead to the Big Bang Theory. Yet, for nearly a hundred years, the Oxford Template of Learning, part of the control system in which we all exist, has continuously advocated this Big Bang Hoax. There never will be a Higgs Boson, Dark Matter will never be found, no matter how many trillions of our tax dollars they spend in search of such.

As the Global Elite pour unlimited public funds into the bottomless pit of CERN, there is a growing realization among cosmologists that our universe is eternal (http://www.technologyreview.com/view/419984/big-bang-abandoned-in-new-model-of-the-universe/).

Like the Federal Reserve System, The Income Tax, and blaming the Carbon Footprint for Global Warming, the LHC at CERN is just one more clever construct designed to whip the Mass of Humanity into financial servitude.

CERN is a cunningly disguised trigger mechanism whose nefarious purpose can only be hypothesized.

[Atlas]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/cern/CERN-behind-the-scenes.gif

The European Strategy for Particle Physics
Posted by CERN, January/February 2014

In January, a working group of the CERN council met in Erice to draft an updated strategy for medium and long-term particle physics. [...] As expected, the updated strategy emphasizes the exploitation of the LHC to its full potential across many years through a series of planned upgrades.

It also explicitly supports long-term research to “continue to develop novel techniques leading to ambitious future accelerator projects on a global scale” and to “maintain a healthy base in fundamental physics research, in universities and national laboratories”.

In a period in which research funding is highly constrained worldwide, these latter points are a strong cautionary note that maintaining “free energy” in national research budgets is essential for innovation.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/cern/CERNCourier2014JanFeb-digitaledition-1.gif

Source:http://iopp.fileburst.com/ccr/archive/CERNCourier2014JanFeb-digitaledition.pdf

[ThePythonicCow]

Allow me to state, for the record, I did not start this thread in an "alternative medicine" forum. It was started in a science discussion forum. How it got into an alternative medicine forum is anyone's guess.
This was posted in the "Alternative Medicine & Sciences" forum, which Bill split into two, one for medicine, and the other for science. Forum splits are done in three steps:

Rename the existing forum to one of the two new names, with all threads still in that forum.
Create a new forum, with the other name.
Move the threads that should be in the new forum over.

Since the majority of the threads in the "Alternative Medicine & Sciences" forum were medical related, the existing forum was renamed to "Alternative Medicine". Bill plans on moving over the obviously science related threads to the newly created (and initially empty) "Science" forum "real soon now" (though that step is the most tedious of the three, so be patient.)

[Hervé]

While the switching to a new, adequate subforum is being fine tuned, I consolidated a bunch of those CERN threads into the first of its kind (i.e. this one ^):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ERN#post944032 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80770-The-BIG-BANG-CERN-to-Restart-March-23rd-2015-The-Ritualistic-Timing-and-The-New-Age-Deception&p=944032&highlight=CERN#post944032)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...roy-The-Planet (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80368-Quantum-Physicist-Warns-CERN-s-LHC-Could-Destroy-The-Planet)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-consciousness (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80680-CERN-and-the-war-on-consciousness)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Issues-Warning (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79640-CERN-To-Attempt---Big-Bang---In-March-Stephen-Hawking-Issues-Warning)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ent-technology (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79300-Is-CERN-the-new---Osiris-Ta-Wer---A-modern-stargate-machine-based-on-ancient-technology)

Cheers!

PS: Fresh from the cookie-cutter:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.pngMy guess is that, it's time for you to learn how to use and gain some mastery over the "Advanced Search (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77629-Google-site-search-vs-built-in-search)" function one can find at the upper right corner of any Project Avalon page...BEFORE starting a new thread...

[arwen]

Thanks hugely to the Mods for the merge, most heartily appreciated. And I shall, in future, do a search on the entire forum before posting new threads (I was previously only searching the sub-forums).

On the subject of Shiva, just for the record, I found this rather intriguing clip of Aldous Huxley speaking in 1961, about his take on Shiva. and I feel it could give some insight into why the statue was placed outside of CERN, apart from the theories proposed above. It does make sense in a mainstream way, although all possibilities are open to examination. In any case, here is the clip:

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[Atlas]

some insight into why the statue was placed outside of CERN
LORD SHIVA STATUE UNVEILED
Posted by CERN

The statue is a gift from India, celebrating CERN's long association with India which started in the 1960's and continues strongly today. It was unveiled by the Director General, Dr Robert Aymar, His Excellency Mr K. M. Chandrasekhar, Ambassador (WTO-Geneva) and Dr Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary, Dept of Atomic Energy, India.

http://cds.cern.ch/record/745737/files/na-2004-122_0406040_01.jpg

In the Hindu religion, this form of the dancing Lord Shiva is known as the Nataraj and symbolises Shakti, or life force. As a plaque alongside the statue explains, the belief is that Lord Shiva danced the Universe into existence, motivates it, and will eventually extinguish it. Carl Sagan drew the metaphor between the cosmic dance of the Nataraj and the modern study of the 'cosmic dance' of subatomic particles.

The statue was made in India. The original sculpture was a wax model, around which a soil mould was made. Melting the wax left a hollow into which liquid metal was poured. Once cooled, the mould was split and the statue polished and given its antique finish.

The statue is on permanent display in the square between buildings 39 and 40, a short distance from the Main Building.

http://cds.cern.ch/record/745737

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4133/5064143987_61754a3c76.jpg

[heyokah]

some insight into why the statue was placed outside of CERN
LORD SHIVA STATUE UNVEILED
Posted by CERN


In the Hindu religion, this form of the dancing Lord Shiva is known as the Nataraj and symbolises Shakti, or life force. As a plaque alongside the statue explains, the belief is that Lord Shiva danced the Universe into existence, motivates it, and will eventually extinguish it.




Wow, it's actually there, right in front of the Cern building, in plain sight....

Lord Shiva danced the Universe into existence, motivates it, and will eventually extinguish it.


We just have to wait for "eventually", eventually.

[observer]

some insight into why the statue was placed outside of CERN
LORD SHIVA STATUE UNVEILED
Posted by CERN

"The statue is a gift from India, celebrating CERN's long association with India which started in the 1960's and continues strongly today."

[....snip]

http://cds.cern.ch/record/745737/files/na-2004-122_0406040_01.jpg

[....snip]



Let's not loose focus on what we all know.

To the Global Elite, understanding the symbolism is the "Rosetta Stone" to understanding how the magic spells work.

For instance, everyone believes the Statue of Liberty was a benign gift of friendship from France to the United States, and a statue of Lady Liberty holding the light of Liberty. While in reality it is actually the statue of Isis holding The Light of Lucifer, standing guard over the most important harbor in the Western World, casting a magic spell for the controllers and creators of these United States, and a gift from one Lodge of the Masonic Order to another.

The point: understanding is all in knowing what the symbolism stands for.

As I concluded in Comment #156:



[....snip]

"CERN is a cunningly disguised trigger mechanism whose nefarious purpose can only be hypothesized."

The Lord Shiva statue is a symbol designed to magically create that nefarious objective. Without being a member of the inner circle of secrecy at the CERN Cabal, one can only hypothetically conjecture what that objective might be.

[Atlas]

Apparently, they were not satisfied with LHCa so they went on to LHCb.... :confused:

The LHCb experiment will shed light on why we live in a universe that appears to be composed almost entirely of matter, but no antimatter

The Large Hadron Collider beauty (LHCb) experiment specializes in investigating the slight differences between matter and antimatter by studying a type of particle called the "beauty quark", or "b quark".

http://home.web.cern.ch/sites/home.web.cern.ch/files/styles/medium/public/image/experiment/2013/01/cloud.jpeg

The 5600-tonne LHCb detector is made up of a forward spectrometer and planar detectors. It is 21 metres long, 10 metres high and 13 metres wide, and sits 100 metres below ground near the village of Ferney-Voltaire, France. About 700 scientists from 66 different institutes and universities make up the LHCb collaboration (October 2013).

Source: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/experiments/lhcb

[turiya]

I just posted this over at the Chris Thomas Update thead (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-Our-Evolution-by-Chris-Thomas&p=945105&viewfull=1#post945105)...

The upcoming start up of the Cern Haldron Collider will attempt to create a Star Gate. Chris Thomas has written an essay that contains what he has found through his research within the Akashic. Basically, the Creationery Force has put a defense mechanism in place to protect the Earth experiment from being taking down & destroyed by such idiots as those that run the Haldron Collider project. In essence, the present Solar System lacks enough energy to have a black hole Star Gate to be made. So, we can look forward the Cern's attempt to establish a connection with a "parallel universe" to be a great failure.

The following was posted yesterday on the above linked thread:


Star Gates


A great deal has been made about the existence of “Star Gates” into, and out of, our solar system. Another word for a star gate would be “portal”.


But what is the reality?

Our solar system is unique. Nowhere else in our Universe does the combination of energy frequencies that make up our solar system exist. As we saw above, the Universe is made up of a combination of frequencies that allow for the existence of several forms of life – the combination of frequencies allow the non-physical races to exist and a different combination of energies allow the semi-physical races to exist. But on Earth, the energy combinations are entirely different to both of the other states of being.

In order to bring about fully physical forms of life, an area of “containment” was required. We could not be directly connected to the energetic realms of the non-physical races because we would then exist in a state no different to theirs. We could not be directly connected to the energetic realms of the semi-physical races because we would then exist in a state no different to them.

So to create a new state of being – a physical state – an area of the Universe had to be partitioned off to ensure that the experiment of physical life was not contaminated by the energy patterns from which the other regions of the Universe were comprised.

Our solar system is deliberately located on the edge of nowhere. We are located where we are in order to be separated from the rest of the Universe and, as we are an “experiment”, we also needed to be located in a region where there was very little in the way of other life as there was a chance that we could become “contaminated” by other energies.

It is for these reasons that our solar system is “contained” in an energy “bubble”. This bubble contains all of the combination of energy frequencies that compress space, time and light to the frequencies that correspond to a “physical” state of being. This bubble is shaped a little like a rugby ball and contains 396 dimensions – a dimension is a measure of energy frequencies and our “bubble” is limited to this number of dimensions as they correspond to the energy patterns of physical existence (the Universe contains a total of 39 to the 39th dimensions – that is the number 39 followed by 39 zeros).

Whilst we needed to be totally separate from the rest of the Universe, the other races also needed to have access to our solar system. The non-physical races needed access, as they are the primary soul origins of the vast majority of humans. The semi-physical races needed access in order to provide us with assistance should we require it.


So there are two “Star Gates” into and out of our solar system.

One relates to the position of the stars on the “belt” of the constellation of Orion. This star gate opens directly into the rest of the Universe and the energy patterns of the non-physical races. The second star gate opens through the constellation of Draco to the energy patterns of the semi-physical races (the actual gate is located in the triangle created by the stars of Grumium, Nodus Secundus and Aldhibah just below the “head” of Draco).

These are the only two access points into and out of our solar system – no other star gates or portals exist.

In recent years, the Velon have attempted to persuade people to build new “portals” into and out of the solar system – all of those attempts failed. On the 9th of December 2009, an attempt was made to use the HAARP station located on the island of Tromsø in northern Norway – the “Norwegian Spiral”. This attempt also failed.


http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2009/12/norway_spiral.jpg
Norwegian Spiral: an attempt to create a portal

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/HAARP_Dees.png
High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program [aka HAARP] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program)

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/HADRON_ACCELERTOR_at_CERN.png
HADRON ACCELERTOR at CERN


There were similar attempts made using HAARP around the same time as the Norwegian attempt as well as an attempt using the particle accelerator in Cern on the Swiss/French border. All of these attempts failed as there is insufficient energy available within our solar system to build a new portal or star gate.

This is also quite deliberate. The energy patterns we have available to us are strictly limited. It was always feared that someone would come along and attempt to build a new opening in our enclosing “rugby ball”, and so limiting the amount of energy available to us prevents the construction of such a portal.

If there was a sufficient energy potential available to allow the construction of a new portal, and someone attempted to build one, the opening of such a portal would destroy our solar system and destroy all of the hard work we had put into finding out how physical life works. As one of the questions asked by the Creator of our Universe was “could life exist at physical densities?”, then creating a new uncontrolled portal would not only destroy our solar system it would also destroy the Universe (one of the primary reasons for this Universe to exist is to explore physicality. If the potential to explore that question no longer existed then there would be little point in the rest of the Universe existing – see my books for a more detailed explanation of this possible problem).

So, grab your bag of popcorn, sit back, and enjoy the show as this science idiots run around like roosters claiming that there experiment was some kind of success. Watch how they will word what their conclusions will be.


SOURCE (http://api.ning.com/files/yI5mkdONmaLO-n86hUyW0JWAIFoFhTddxMrDznEmbchWWfV5dPAynU2EK4abeXwsFOsj5Kc1MIl*wWUAiMs08Xw5iyLjGpLA/AnUpdateonNibiru.pdf)

[Flash]

I just posted this over at the Chris Thomas Update thead (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-Our-Evolution-by-Chris-Thomas&p=945105&viewfull=1#post945105)...

So to create a new state of being – a physical state – an area of the Universe had to be partitioned off to ensure that the experiment of physical life was not contaminated by the energy patterns from which the other regions of the Universe were comprised.

Our solar system is deliberately located on the edge of nowhere. We are located where we are in order to be separated from the rest of the Universe and, as we are an “experiment”, we also needed to be located in a region where there was very little in the way of other life as there was a chance that we could become “contaminated” by other energies.

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The only problem NOW (not a few months before, we knew our location as being what Chris describes), is that now, it has been discovered that we are in fact in the middle of the galaxy, not at his edge.

In fact, the galaxy would be twice as wide as first presumed, because we could not perceive its size, having a kind of flat view of it from our position, while in fact the galaxy would be kind of wavy and we did not perceive the bottom and top crest of the waves, creating sort of rings (like a rock being throw in water).

Now, we would be located right in the middle of the waves patterns if looking from the center of the galaxy or from its edge. In fact, right in the middle of the interstellar traffic.

My question therefore here would be: how come Chris has not seen that on the Akashic records, it is surely noted there no doubts? Unless our scientists are wrong this time again.

[turiya]

I just posted this over at the Chris Thomas Update thead (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-Our-Evolution-by-Chris-Thomas&p=945105&viewfull=1#post945105)...

So to create a new state of being – a physical state – an area of the Universe had to be partitioned off to ensure that the experiment of physical life was not contaminated by the energy patterns from which the other regions of the Universe were comprised.

Our solar system is deliberately located on the edge of nowhere. We are located where we are in order to be separated from the rest of the Universe and, as we are an “experiment”, we also needed to be located in a region where there was very little in the way of other life as there was a chance that we could become “contaminated” by other energies.

The only problem NOW (not a few months before, we knew our location as being what Chris describes), is that now, it has been discovered that we are in fact in the middle of the galaxy, not at his edge.

In fact, the galaxy would be twice as wide as first presumed, because we could not perceive its size, having a kind of flat view of it from our position, while in fact the galaxy would be kind of wavy and we did not perceive the bottom and top crest of the waves, creating sort of rings (like a rock being throw in water).

Now, we would be located right in the middle of the waves patterns if looking from the center of the galaxy or from its edge. In fact, right in the middle of the interstellar traffic.

My question therefore here would be: how come Chris has not seen that on the Akashic records, it is surely noted there no doubts? Unless our scientists are wrong this time again.

The essay from where this comes was copyrighted in August 2013 - so, it was written not even 2 years ago. What you would find from CT's writings is that Chris does not hold scientists [per se] very high on the list of people who really know what they are talking about. They have been wrong more often than not, time & time again.

Chris does give science some credit, as he states in this essay (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-Our-Evolution-by-Chris-Thomas&p=670206#post670206):

For once, science originally managed to get one thing right and that is the age of the Universe – 14.5 billion years old (actually, cosmologists have recently dropped it to 13.5 billion - so science is wrong again!). Our Universe did not just spontaneously spring into being but was created by a being that encompasses all of the energy available everywhere...

...Our solar system began to form about 40 million years ago. I appreciate that 40 million years is nowhere near the 4 billion, or so, years that geologists talk about, but 40 million years is what the Akashic records.



And then there is the following from this Terje Toftenes interview (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-Our-Evolution-by-Chris-Thomas&p=809843&viewfull=1#post809843)...


[W]e are undergoing a shift of consciousness that is totally unknown. Never experienced before. Nobody knows what’s happening. Nobody knows how its going to turn out, or the stages necessary to achieve what we need to achieve.

We will get there. I mean it’s pretty obvious from the people who have made it already. But quite what happens to the residue to the 65 percent of people who said they were not going to make it—That’s where the problems lie. And certainly there are organizations who want to maintain the status quo & they’re doing everything possible to mislead people into believing that nothing is happening, or everything needs to continue as it is.

And, this is reflected in a great deal of political discussion & political information. But underneath it all, those who are changing know they're changing, and they know they're moving forwards. And this is why so many people are divorcing themselves away from the world as it stands at the moment, and particularly politics & why so much information is now coming out that has been hidden before. Because politics has been getting away with corruption & fraud for centuries, and yet nobody really knew that much about it. But all of a sudden, worldwide, we have a release of information that shows that we’ve been mislead by fools, and corrupt fools at that. Its this change in energy patterns that is fueling the change & the release of all this kind of information. And also why we see changes in things like science & cosmology & that sort of thing, because people are starting to wake up to the fact that these scientific theories are wrong, always have been wrong & not based on any kind of fact, just purely & simply assumption.

In fairness, the Solar System we inhabit is surrounded by an energy bubble. And this energy bubble contains us, it makes us Human, it makes us physical. Whereas, if we get outside this energy bubble, what we have are different frequencies. I mean, the speed of light has been well measured & travels at 186,000 miles per second, I can’t remember what it is in kilometers. And it does, this is what it travels within our Solar System, but once you get outside of our Solar System, then the speed of light changes—its totally different. And this is why the ages of things, such as the stars, galaxies, whatever… have a problem… There is this problem between the dates recorded in the Akashic & the scientific assumption of it. And why there’s this thing of “we have an expanding Universe”— we don’t have an expanding Universe. What we have is freedom of movement within the universal envelope. So, some galaxies are moving in one direction, which makes them look as though the Universe is expanding.


Image Source: Wikipedia
http://societystacktrace.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/20131008-232404.jpg
Cold Dark Matter & Cold Dark Energy - Ridiculous! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda-CDM_model)
And we also have… I have to call it for what it is — this ridiculous concept of ‘Cold Dark Matter’ & ‘Cold Dark Energy’— THEY DO NOT EXIST! Certainly, Cold Dark Matter does not exist.

What we have is the Universe that is built of electromagnetic energies — that’s the nearest analogy, Human analogy, that I can come to in terms of describing what occurs within the Universe. Everything is energy. In fairness to Einstein, the E = MC2 [squared] formula still holds. That is a truth that is universal, essentially. So, everything is energy. So why would there be ‘dark matter’ around somewhere, that makes up the mass of the Universe to try to make this gravitational theory work.

[The] Gravitational Theory is a complete load of rubbish, when it comes down to it, with all due respect to Einstein’s theory of relativity, as well. But we have an electromagnetic universe, and if you look at the difference between electromagnetic forces & magnetic forces, the difference is phenomenal. And if you start to look from a scientific viewpoint, that the Universe is being made up electromagnetism, then all the anomalies, all the problems with their equations & theories become resolved. Its as simple as that — you know, it doesn’t take much thinking about. I mean, if I can do it as a non scientist just on the physical evidence, never mind with what’s within the Akashic, then I really don’t understand what this “Double-Dark Theory” is all about, because it just doesn’t work.

[observer]

As the OP of this thread, allow me to point-out that a trip into the subjective dominion of metaphysics was never the intention of this thread. The world of fantasy is a wonderful place to play, but this thread was created to examine the objective evidence available documenting what can be proven from the historic record concerning the intent and purpose of the CERN experiments.

It was the decision of certain MODs to combine threads in such a way that the door was opened to include information based entirely on some individual's unsubstantiated personal experiences gleaned from within the confines of that individual's implanted mental images.

If you wish to make a comment in this thread, I only ask that you please show us the evidence. It has always been my desire to attract the attention of individuals capable of critical thinking. Suggesting the existence of 39 parallel dimensions with 39 zeros behind the number can hardly be considered substantiating a fact with a trail of evidence.

Please Note:
For a further understanding of what I'm talking about please search term: "The Council of Nine". This would be a good starting point for defining what the agenda of 'implanted mental images' is all about. The Council of Nine began appearing in the early 50's and included some of the earliest names in the intelligence community.

It is my conclusion that these implanted thoughts are a continuing agenda going all the way back to the Dawn of Humanity, and have been defined using a myriad of terms that include words like prophet, seer, clairvoyant, channeler, remote viewer, sensitive, and a long list of others - all designed to keep the Masses confused.

Now, let's try to get this thread :focus:

[observer]

The cat is out of the bag: "Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons", or "antimatter bombs"

One of the original and primary ongoing experiments at CERN has been a search for "antimatter". This seemingly innocuous mission statement for one of the primary functions of the CERN facility is in reality a weapons research project in disguise. In other words, the Global Elite using the technology of a Break-Away Civilization, are doing "research for an antimatter bomb".

This is the type of evidence this thread is seeking

Research Resources:

"Antimatter weapons (19461986): From Fermi and Teller’s speculations to the first open scientific publications" -

http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0507132v2.pdf

"Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons: Military effectiveness and collateral effects"-

http://www.academia.edu/3227488/Fourth_Generation_Nuclear_Weapons_Military_effectiveness_and_collateral_effects

A special thanks to heyokah for opening this door....

[heyokah]

The cat is out of the bag: "Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons", or "antimatter bombs"

....

Thank you observer !
Allow me to quote 3 important pages of that paper called :
Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons: Military effectiveness and collateral effects.

by Andre Gsponer
Independent Scientific Research Institute Box 30, CH-1211 Geneva-12, Switzerland
Version ISRI0503.17, May 23, 2006

- Page 19

Antimatter

Antimatter has the distinctive feature of having a flavor of being a “science-fiction technology” while in fact there is no fundamental scientific problem with that technology and its potential applications.
The problems are that antimatter is expensive to produce in large quantities at present, and that numerous engineering problems have still to be solved before it can be used in practical applications.

The situation is similar to that of microcomputers or hand-held cellular telephones: their scientific feasibility was established in the 1950s, but their construction and large-scale manufacturing required thirty to forty years of engineering research and development.

For example, the theory I presented at a 1986 conference, demonstrating the scientific feasibility of a new generation of nuclear weapons in which the few kilograms of fissile primary are replaced by microgram amounts of antihydrogen, i.e., has never been disputed. On the contrary, that presentation is now recognized as being the first presentation at an open scientific conference of the correct physical processes leading to the ignition of a thermo-nuclear explosion using less than a few micrograms of antimatter as trigger, and the correctness of the theory has been confirmed in many reports.

As a matter of fact, antimatter is seriously considered as a potential energy source for a new generation of nuclear explosives since at least the end of the1940s, especially by Edward Teller and collaborators in the United States .

- Page 20

Antimatter is currently a very active area of research, characterized by a considerable overlap with fundamental nuclear and sub-nuclear research because antiparticles are particularly powerful tools for studying the fundamental laws of physics at very high energies. There is therefore a large consensus, as well as a convergence of interests, which make that the development of antimatter science and technology does not need to be funded by large defense programs, simply because it is a high priority item for pure scientific research as well.

Consequently, the number of antimatter-based research facilities has mushroomed around the world, with the result that some large and primarily national facilities (e.g., in Japan and Germany) are becoming directly competitive with inter- governemental laboratories (such as CERN) which should be the proper place for conducting “pure science” in a strictly international setting. It is also remarquabel that in the past ten years a rather exotic field like antimatter-plasma physics has become a large subject of research, with several percent of all professional advanced plasma-physics publications dedicated to it, including contributions from countries such as Brazil which has developed a strong theoretical basis for mastering the subject.

As a result, by 2010, the world’s two largest anti-proton factories will be in Europe, at CERN near Geneva, and GSI near Darmstadt, i.e., only about 1000 km apart from each other. This has not escaped the attention of US scientists working on the practical applications of antimatter, who emphasized that:
“a dedicated antiproton source (the main barrier to copious anti-hydrogen production) must be built in the US, perhaps as a joint NASA/DOE/NIH project. This is because the only practical sources in the world are at CERN and the proposed facility at GSI in Germany”

This may look as a quite unusual situation: why would the world’s richest and most powerful country not have a large dedicated anti-proton source? Part of the answer to this is already contained in a twenty-years old report of the RAND corporation which basically concluded that as long as US scientists would have full access to antimatter produced at CERN “a production/accumulation facility, such as the one at CERN, although desirable, wouldn’t in the near future have to be built in the United States” In this spirit, one could also add that it could certainly be in the interest of the United States to let Europe have a few unique advanced and costly facilities in order to motivate its researchers, and to attract those from Eastern Europe and Russia.

Similar reasons explain the support given by the United States to the creation of CERN in the early 1950s.

- Page 21

However, the main reason is more probably that the production of anti-protons is not the most difficult technological problem in the way of practical applications of antimatter. In fact, the anti-protons per year to be produced in 2010 at the AD facility at CERN, or at FAIR at GSI, correspond already to about 1 nano gram per year. If presently available technology would be used to build a fully dedicated “antimatter factory,” rather than a general purpose “research facility,” one could easily produce more that 1 microgram of antimatter per year right now.

As 1 microgram is sufficient to trigger one thermo nuclear weapon, such a facility will only be a facto r365 away from the implicit goal that the US and Soviet governments set forth in the 1940s, namely to produce enough material for making one atomic bomb every day!

As a matter of fact, the United States and other countries are still investigating the best technique for producing very large quantities of antimatter.
One such technique is based on the idea of creating a “quark-gluon plasma,” which is studied in laboratories such as CERN, RHIC at BNL (the Brookhaven National Laboratory near New York), and FAIR at GSI.
Creating such a plasma is essentially trying to reproduce in the laboratory what happened at the beginning of the universe, a tiny fraction of a second after the big bang. At that moment there were equal amounts of matter and anti-matter in the universe, all matter and energy being in a so called “primordial plasma” state.
If the cooling-down process of the primordial plasma into either matter or antimatter could be controlled, one would possibly have the most efficient method for producing antimatter on a large scale! There is therefore no surprise that weapons-laboratory scientists are in fact much interested by this supposedly purely “astrophysical” state of matter, especially since the idea it self originated from Edward Teller and collaborators in 1973 already.

There is also another serious and almost trivial question: How can anti-matter safely be stored and manipulated as it spontaneously interacts with any matter coming close to it? This is the subject of considerable research for which many options are in competition. Clearly, there is little reasons for building a full-scale anti-matter factory before this question is fully answered, and the relatedtechnologies sufficiently developed.

http://www.academia.edu/3227488/Fourth_Generation_Nuclear_Weapons_Military_effectiveness_and_collateral_effects

[turiya]

As the OP of this thread, allow me to point-out that a trip into the subjective dominion of metaphysics was never the intention of this thread. The world of fantasy is a wonderful place to play, but this thread was created to examine the objective evidence available documenting what can be proven from the historic record concerning the intent and purpose of the CERN experiments.

It was the decision of certain MODs to combine threads in such a way that the door was opened to include information based entirely on some individual's unsubstantiated personal experiences gleaned from within the confines of that individual's implanted mental images.

If you wish to make a comment in this thread, I only ask that you please show us the evidence. It has always been my desire to attract the attention of individuals capable of critical thinking. Suggesting the existence of 39 parallel dimensions with 39 zeros behind the number can hardly be considered substantiating a fact with a trail of evidence.

Please Note:
For a further understanding of what I'm talking about please search term: "The Council of Nine". This would be a good starting point for defining what the agenda of 'implanted mental images' is all about. The Council of Nine began appearing in the early 50's and included some of the earliest names in the intelligence community.

It is my conclusion that these implanted thoughts are a continuing agenda going all the way back to the Dawn of Humanity, and have been defined using a myriad of terms that include words like prophet, seer, clairvoyant, channeler, remote viewer, sensitive, and a long list of others - all designed to keep the Masses confused.

Now, let's try to get this thread :focus:

Thank you, heyokah, exactly my point... "Antimatter has the distinctive feature of having a flavor of being a “science-fiction technology”... "a rather exotic field like antimatter-plasma physics has become a large subject of research"...

From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_formation#Primordial_plasma): "Structure formation refers to a largely unsolved, but extensively researched problem in physical cosmology." - there you have it. Just because the subject is "extensively researched" doesn't make it any more real than a fictional fairytale / wicked witch story. Sounds like the whole reason that money continues to be spent & research will go on is so the military-industrial-security state-complex can be provided another weapon of mass destruction.

Sounds like you are referring to the mainstream scientists-at-large, Observer. Can you show the factual evidence that so-called "Dark Matter" exists, or "Dark Energy", or the factual evidence that the so-called "Big Bang" actually took place. No! These are fairytale fictions.

Now, I can show you the paper in which Steven Hawking, the 'king' of 'Black Hole' theory, had come out last year (January 27, 2014) saying Black Holes no longer exist! (http://starburstfound.org/hawking-finally-sees-light-black-holes-exist/) Now, disposing his Black Hole theory altogether, something that he has based his entire career on... Now, this had to be a heavy hit for him, but he obviously deserves some credit for finally admitting this to himself, as well as publicly to the rest of the scientific community, to boot.

And what do main stream scientists say about this - absolutely nothing! In fact, they have just about totally ignored Steven Hawking on this... Just so they can proceed forth with their 'looney tune' concepts of Dark Matter / Dark Energy to try to prop up the tooty-fruity idea that there was a "big bang" that started everything going. They might resort to duct tape & chewing gum when this upcoming big Cern failure dust finally settles into the reality that the rest of us are living in.

Best regards

[heyokah]

Hi turia, I would like you to have a good look at observer's post #156, concerning your "mainstream scientists-at-large" idea......


.......
The point I've been attempting to focus upon with the direction of this thread is rooted in the fact that everything we are told is a small part of a much larger lie - everything !!!

Our three dimensional universe had no beginning, nor will it have an end.
..........


While many are speculating about the Large Hadron Collider going to make contact with a PARALLEL UNIVERSE or producing DARK MATTER or a WORMHOLE, and while others are caught-up in messages through channellings, or direct from the 'Akashic Records', for what it's worth, we might not be fully aware of what is going on behind the curtains of CERN.


As for Antimatter and Dark Matter

Antiparticles
Every elementary particle in the Universe appears to have a partner particle called its antiparticle that shares many of the same characteristics, but many other characteristics are the opposite of those for the particle. For example, the electron has as its antiparticle the antielectron. The electron and the antielectron have exactly the same masses, but they have exactly opposite electrical charges.
The common stuff around us appears to be "matter", but we routinely produce antimatter in small quantities in high energy accelerator experiments. When a matter particle meets its antimatter particle they destroy each other completely (the technical term is "annihilation"), releasing the equivalent of their rest masses in the form of pure energy (according to the Einstein E=mc^2 relation). For example, when an electron meets an antielectron, the two annihilate and produce a burst of light having the energy corresponding to the masses of the two particles.

Because the properties of matter and antimatter parallel each other, we believe that the physics and chemistry of a galaxy made entirely from antimatter would closely parallel that of our our matter galaxy. Thus, is is conceivable that life built on antimatter could have evolved at other places in the Universe, just as life based on matter has evolved here. (But if your antimatter twin should show up some day, I would advise against shaking hands---remember that matter and antimatter annihilate each other!) However, we have no evidence thus far for large concentrations of antimatter anywhere in the Universe. Everything that we see so far seems to be matter. If true, this is something of a mystery, because naively there are reasons from fundamental physics to believe that the Universe should have produced about as much matter as antimatter.

Dark Matter
Dark matter is the general term for matter that we cannot see to this point with our telescopes, but that we know must be there because we see its gravitational influence on the rest of the Universe. Many different experiments indicate that there is probably 10 times more matter in the Universe (because we see its gravitational influence) than the matter that we see. Thus, dark matter is basically what the Universe is made out of, but we don't yet know what it is!
As one simple example of the evidence for dark matter, the velocity of rotation for spiral galaxies depends on the amount of mass contained in them. The outer parts of our own spiral galaxy, the Milky Way, are rotating much too fast to be consistent with the amount of matter that we can detect; in fact the data indicates that there must be about 10 times as much matter as we can see distributed in some diffuse halo of our galaxy to account for its rotation. The same is true for most other spiral galaxies where the velocities can be measured.

There are various candidates for the dark matter, ranging from ordinary matter that we just can't see because it isn't bright enough (for example, ordinary matter bound up in black holes, or very faint stars, or large planet-like objects like Jupiter) to more exotic particles that have yet to be discovered. There are some fairly strong arguments based on the production of the light elements in the Big Bang indicating that the majority of the dark matter cannot be ordinary matter or antimatter (which physicists call "baryonic matter"), and thus that the majority of the mass of the Universe is in a form very different from the matter that makes up us and the world around us (physicists call this "non-baryonic matter"). If that is true, then the matter that we are made of (baryonic matter) is but a small impurity compared to the dominant matter in the universe (non-baryonic matter). As someone has put it, "not only are we not the center of the Universe, we aren't even made of the right stuff!"

The nature of the dark matter is perhaps the most fundamental unsolved problem in modern astronomy.

Could the Dark Matter be Antimatter?
It is conceivable that the dark matter (or at least part of it) could be antimatter, but there are very strong experimental reasons to doubt this. For example, if the dark matter out there were antimatter, we would expect it to annihilate with matter whenever it meets up with it, releasing bursts of energy primarily in the form of light. We see no evidence in careful observations for that, which leads most scientists to believe that whatever the dark matter is, it is not antimatter.

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/antimatter.html

Or else

http://www.science20.com/quantum_gravity/blog/difference_between_matter_antimatter_dark_matter_and_negative_matter

[observer]

turiya, my friend,

You are not keeping-up with the theme of this thread. If you review my comments all the way back to the OP you will see the focus of those comments are exactly that the Big Bang never happened. I believe, however you are confusing Dark Matter with Antimatter. I believe these two concepts are differently defined.

Antimatter - Noun, a form of matter composed of antiparticles, such as antihydrogen, consisting of antiprotons and positrons. Antimatter, which annihilates matter upon contact, seems to be rare in the universe. The experiments at CERN have already detected Antimatter for short durations.

Dark Matter - Noun, nonluminous matter not yet directly detected by astronomers that is hypothesized to exist to account for various observed gravitational effects.

The search for antimatter goes back to the earliest days of particle physics. The idea of Dark Matter, or Dark Energy is a recent construct invented to fill a theoretical void created by the Big Bang Theory. A concept which I agree with you, is totally bogus.

The development of an Antimatter Bomb, however is a very real possibility and is supported by volumes of material. I invite you to search term: "Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons".

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Observer, I wanted you (and the others!) to see THIS:


https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/abdwhb06/PAPERS/WEAZ07.PDF


SHOCK WAVE PROPAGATION NEAR 7 TEV PROTON BEAM IN LHC
COLLIMATOR MATERIALS *
A.I. Ryazanov, A.V.Klaptsov, S.A.Pavlov, Russian Research Center
“Kurchatov Institute”, 123182 Moscow, Russia,
R.Assmann, A.Ferrari, R. Schmidt, CERN-AB, 1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland


Abstract
A theoretical model and numerical calculations are
developed to estimate consequences of the impact of a
7 TeV proton beam on the physical-mechanical properties
of materials used in the LHC, for example graphite used
for collimators, and copper. Each 7 TeV proton beam
consists of 2808 bunches with 1.1x1011 protons per bunch.
In our calculations we assume a bunch length of 0.5 ns
and a bunch spacing of 25 ns. The high energy stored in
each bunch can produce a shock wave in these materials.
The theoretical model for the investigations of shock
wave propagation in the collimator materials takes into
account ionization, electronic excitation, and energy
transfer from excited electronic subsystem of material to
the ionic subsystem. The changes of some physical
properties of the collimator materials during shock wave
propagation are considered here. The deposited energy is
calculated with FLUKA [1].


The first numerical results are presented here to show
the possibilities of developed computer program and to
test it in the calculations of microstructure changes in
materials produced by shock wave propagation for
different numbers of bunches for some deposited energy.
This allows investigating the changes of density and
internal pressure, temperature profiles in electronic and
ionic subsystems of materials near the front of shock
wave. This program will be used in the future for the
understanding of behaviour of collimator materials used
in LHC under 7 TeV proton beam in accident cases.


CALCULATIONS OF DEPOSITED
ENERGY IN COLLIMATOR
MATERIALS
The interaction of a 7 TeV proton beam with material
results in a formation of secondary fast particles due to
electromagnetic cascades and nuclear reactions of protons
with target atoms. The slowing down of these secondary
particles in materials leads to an accumulation of very
high energy close to the beam and to formation shock
wave and radiation damage. As a first step in this study,
we consider here only a shock wave formation in the
materials for some deposited energies. The study
discussed here is considered to be complementary to the
study presented in [2], and will in the future concentrate
also on radiation damage.

etc.

https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/abdwhb06/PAPERS/WEAZ07.PDF


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"Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you,
Saturn will be converted from gold to iron,
RAYPOZ will exterminate all who oppose him,
Before the coming the sky will show signs."

[JRS]

Oh Nuts! The darn thing broke again! See Reuters: Electric Fault Delays Relaunch of Cern... http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/03/24/science-cern-idINKBN0MK2EY20150324

and Dutchsinse- http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/3242015-cern-mega-magnet-short-circuits-today-operations-now-postponed/

Relaunch postponed indefinitely!

[triquetra]

Yes, there were operations since 2008 (when it was opening for the first time) to delay progress. There was some discussion touching on this matter in the triquetra thread.

Physicists don't know any better, you can go through school thinking wave-based quantum physics is dismissible while the world revolves around particle physics advances. After all, particle physics is what makes all good weapons, right?

So there is the level of the naive drone, and then the level of symbolic knowingness that it all comes down to particles vs waves at the end of the day. It's one of the root dualities.

So really civilization is being grown to be a kind of weapon, by keeping people in the dark about what advances in wave physics could bring (an immediate abundance) and pushing forward particle physics at all costs, to get something very specific ready. This something is difficult to RV.

But you can still understand it symbolically. There is an effort to hack out of the program from the inside, to not bother to flow within the program of reality, but to attack it from the inside.

The fact of the matter is that no matter what kind of coordination is going on, it's a bit of an exercise in futility, for example alterations to reorient the timeline to its original trajectory have already been done, all prior to 2012, and the mapping of futures from 2013 on doesn't contain anything like what all this working towards something very unusual (an effort spanning thousands of years) was all about.

What it amounts to is a perturbation of the intended timeline and a readjustment. Making reality is macro-micro symmetric to an understanding of how your reality is made. You can dig further into sub-atomic particles or poke at the borders of the universe, but to try and leave everyone in the dark about the unified wave system that applies to everything you can understand in your reality and also everything beyond it, it gets them no further.

I would not be worried about a breakaway civilization because they will just be stuck in another location instead of being stuck on earth.

There is no stopping the impending singularity nor the implications of it. Alignment is alignment, pure and simple. The folks that have intentionally made many decisions that negatively impact others will be left behind. Destroying everything only makes matters even worse.

There is nothing left to be done besides having each and ever real human try and find their path to alignment. This is not so much a religious matter as it is a mathematical matter. You can understand your alignment in terms of your emotional state, the vibrations of each and every part of your biology, your psyche, the way you interact with the reality you perceive around you, your micro-alignment from what you know about the information you get from within, your macro-alignment from the company you keep and how well they are doing with their own alignment, and the way reality appears to be to you.

CERN was a concern in 2008. Now there are just a lot of people who think they are very powerful digging their own holes even deeper. They can exert their power for some time longer but it's all going to quickly turn to dust.

[heyokah]

Observer, I wanted you (and the others!) to see THIS:


https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/abdwhb06/PAPERS/WEAZ07.PDF


SHOCK WAVE PROPAGATION NEAR 7 TEV PROTON BEAM IN LHC
COLLIMATOR MATERIALS *
A.I. Ryazanov, A.V.Klaptsov, S.A.Pavlov, Russian Research Center
“Kurchatov Institute”, 123182 Moscow, Russia,
R.Assmann, A.Ferrari, R. Schmidt, CERN-AB, 1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland




Hi Tesla,

This article/paper you mentioned in your post above was from 2006.

http://inspirehep.net/record/739664

The collider's previous highest power was 8 TeV reached in 2012, but after the upgrade, it will first reach 13 TeV and could be cranked up to a maximum 14 TeV.

What are you suggesting with the highlighting of parts of the text?
Could those beams eventually be used as a sort of weapon against "The Enemy", humanity?
They sure are destructive !

**** ADD

I suppose those clever guys at CERN think they can oversee and manage the consequences of the impact of a future 13 TeV proton beam, not only on the physical-mechanical properties of materials used in the LHC, but also outside the LHC, if anything would go wrong..... ???

[turiya]

The following taken from the first interview in a series with Anthony Patch (https://youtu.be/z7W9h1NmXmU) regarding Cern:


Live Interview with Anthony Patch on CERN Part1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEy1WG88yPg
Published on March 31 2015

Anthony Patch February 09 2015 Interview (re-edited).
Watch the Part2: https://youtu.be/JAhQ032nUuY
Follow up March 19 2015 interview: https://youtu.be/w66jy_weYJE
Radio March 27 2015 Interview: https://youtu.be/XJkx-I4fw4o
Ground Zero Radio Podcasts: https://soundcloud.com/groundzeromedia



Live Interview with Anthony Patch on CERN Part2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAhQ032nUuY


Live Interview with Anthony Patch on CERN Part3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w66jy_weYJE

[naste.de.lumina]

This news is serious or just a April 1 joke?


CERN scientists reveal secret project

If successful, the ambitious new experiment may overshadow even the Large Hadron Collider.

Movie science is often a source of chagrin for actual researchers. But recent events suggest that we may be entering a new era of partnership between science and the silver screen.

CERN scientists announced today plans for a project inspired by the bold vision of sci-fi director Steve Pink. Harnessing the increased power of the Large Hadron Collider, scientists will construct the world’s first fully functional temporal displacement thermodynamic reservoir—in lay terms, a Hot Tub Time Machine.

Inspired by the collaboration between astronomer Kip Thorne and director Christopher Nolan on the film Interstellar, a group of scientists hit the theatre in search of fresh ideas. The scientists say the comedic sequel opened their eyes to the possibility of manipulating the very fabric of spacetime.

“It also gave us a strong desire to get those 93 minutes back,” says physicist W. Earl Poole.

Physicist S. Tim Baath took care of the theoretical side of things. “We find that the J/Psi mesons, when Axially Coupled Unto the Z-axis, cause significant time dilation,” he says. “For simplicity, we refer to this as the ‘JACU-Z’ effect.”

The first test of their machine will take place today, April 1.

Prospective future projects include a Theory of Everything and Jupiter Ascending anti-gravity boots.

Source: http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/april-2015/cern-scientists-reveal-secret-project

[naste.de.lumina]

Large Hadron Collider set to restart

Posted by Cian O'Luanaigh on 2 Apr 2015. Last updated 2 Apr 2015, 17.40

After a shutdown lasting two years, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world’s biggest and most powerful particle accelerator, is ready once again for the arrival of particle beams. The teams are completing the final tests after having solved on 31 March the problem that had been delaying the restart of the accelerator. The first beams could be circulating in the machine sometime between Saturday and Monday.

“We are confident of being able to restart the machine over the weekend, as all of the tests performed so far have been successful,” said Frédérick Bordry, Director for Accelerators and Technology at CERN.

When the LHC and the whole accelerator chain are running, operators work in shifts around the clock in the control room. They will attempt to circulate beams in the LHC in both directions, at their injection energy of 450 GeV, as soon as all the lights are green.

Particle collisions at an energy of 13 TeV could start as early as June.

Source: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2015/04/large-hadron-collider-set-restart

--//--

CERN researchers confirm existence of the Force

Posted by Cian O'Luanaigh on 1 Apr 2015. Last updated 2 Apr 2015, 10.13

http://home.web.cern.ch/sites/home.web.cern.ch/files/image/inline-images/coluanai/force-library.jpg

Researchers at the Large Hadron Collider just recently started testing the accelerator for running at the higher energy of 13 TeV, and already they have found new insights into the fundamental structure of the universe. Though four fundamental forces – the strong force, the weak force, the electromagnetic force and gravity – have been well documented and confirmed in experiments over the years, CERN announced today the first unequivocal evidence for the Force. “Very impressive, this result is,” said a diminutive green spokesperson for the laboratory.

More (http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2015/04/cern-researchers-confirm-existence-force)

--//--

Update

3D LHC animation.
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[naste.de.lumina]

CERN Hadron collider restarts after two-year upgrade (http://www.france24.com/en/20150405-cern-hadron-collider-restarts-after-two-year-upgrade/)

"Today (Sunday) at 10:42 am (0842 GMT) a proton beam was back in the 27-kilometre (17-mile) ring, followed at 12:27 pm by a second beam rotating in the opposite direction," it added.

CERN director for accelerators and technology described the LHC as "in great shape".

[naste.de.lumina]

After the 'short circuit' last month was overcome by physicists at CERN, we had a change in the narrative for the upcoming goals to be achieved in future by the LHC (shiva of our times).

Even with the short circuit they were able to identify and then affirm the 'discovery' of the 5 fundamental force of nature.

That is, besides the strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force, electromagnetism and gravity, it was found that there is also being simply called the 'Force'. Yoda comes to mind right now.

Are also talking about the discovery of other dimensions.

Impressive all these 'discoveries' in such a short space of time, especially if we consider that the LHC 'no' was operating as it was in 'repairs'.

OK. I'll pretend that I believe what they tell us.

Hug.

Naste.

[arwen]

Another video (I have not watched yet due to limited bandwidth, but will later), released 7 April 2015. I hope it meets observers' criteria - it seems the video does go into the occult aspects towards the end, but the first part, at least, sounds on topic (I hope). :)

From Kevin Baker's notes (http://kevbakershow.com/cern-strangelets-stargates-saturn-the-occult-connections/#sthash.TBISQ7vi.dpbs):


Author Anthony Patch presesnts his research on CERN and gives us his take on just what is going on underground at the Geneva particle smasher.

During the first part of the show, Kev gets Anthony to lay out the basics about CERN for the listeners that may be new to the topic.

Anthony explains the history of CERN, what it was built for, and goes through the actual physics of smashing particles at velocities approaching the speed of light.

The leads to some interesting discussion on the standard model of physics and the potential for a device such as CERN.

As this 3 hour show progresses, the discussion steadily gets more in-depth and the team get into some of the more occult workings going on at CERN.

Anthony will present his theory as to what they are trying to achieve at CERN and this leads into talk of potention wormholes and connections between the Large Hadron Collider and, wait for it….. SATURN!

It is easy to look at CERN and be lost in the science, and Anthony does a brilliant job of decoding the jargon and presenting PhD level quantom physics in a language that anyone can understand.

The show also covers the fact that the scientists at CERN have openly stated the possibility of “punching holes into parallel worlds” and we discuss the process by which this is being achieved.

Here is the video:


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[turiya]

CERN LOSES CONTROL OVER 10 Tev Per Beam


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZTlzqqfddk
Published on Apr 10, 2015


THE EARTHS SHIELDS TAKE A POUNDING. http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates...
http://www.BPEarthWatch.Com

____________________Edit____________________


ATLAS BACK UP/X Flare Watch


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NPELWkRUZ0
Published on Apr 13, 2015

CERN/DARK MATTER/AXIONS AND GROUND INDUCED CURRENTS..
http://www.BPEarthWatch.Com
http://home.web.cern.ch/

[naste.de.lumina]

Coincidence?
vUkWrEz0xoY

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

You know, between what happened on the Alps and what just happened in Nepal, seems like those bastards would have turned the Hell Gate off by now, lol :(

I think it's worth keeping an eye on, how about some friggin' X-Files action on their sorry butts???? @@*

I'm not kidding, I think it's awful.


P.S. does anyone here have Data regarding what LHC @ CERN may have been doing when Japan had big quake string?
3/11/11 was LHC operating?

p.p.s. i have never read Ben fulford before and i know some here LOL @ him but look at this particular page:


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_fulford24.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_titulos/sociopol_fulford24.gif

by Benjamin Fulford
January 14, 2010
from BenjaminFulford Website

The recent earthquake in Haiti was caused by an earthquake machine using technology developed by Nikola Tesla, according to MI6. The earthquake machine is not HAARP as I have previously suggested but rather some sort of nuclear device, according to this source and a CIA source.

The CIA source says an expedition sent to the epicenter of the Indonesian earthquake that triggered the tsunami found it to be totally lifeless one year later, something that could only be explained by radiation.

“The oil companies won a war and got rights to the oil in that region and nobody even heard about it,” the CIA source said.

In confirmation of these comments, recently declassified documents show the US government planned to attack Japan with a tsunami towards the end of World War 2 by setting of a large explosion along an underwater fault zone.

The attack on Haiti was a Bush/Nazi faction response to the ongoing cut off of their financial assets, according to the sources. The attack cut undersea cables and prevented the transfer of large sums of money to South American central banks.

In addition, the attack was a warning by the Nazi faction saying:
“If you squeeze us too hard we will start killing lots of people.”
These criminals need to be punished for these evil acts.

Multiple sources are also saying a new 9/11 type incident is becoming increasingly probable as financial deadlines for the Federal Reserve Board approach. One important deadline is expected at the end of this month.

The sources also say the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate sold China the anti-missile defense technology recently announced by China. These traitors to the US are almost certainly selling other types of secret technology to China in a desperate bid to keep themselves from going bankrupt.

Meanwhile, two sources who claim connections to the Pentagon Space Command say there will be major disclosure coming soon. Since there is plenty of evidence the Nazis planned a fake alien invasion, these “announcements” (if they really come) need to be examined very carefully and skeptically.

In Japan meanwhile, a decision has been made by the secret government to put power broker Ichiro Ozawa in jail in order to prevent him from forming a dictatorship.

Events are escalating and much turmoil is predicted as the ancient secret government goes through its death throes...

sounds super similar to what happened to WTC buildings, there was wire transfer being alleged, then the 9/11 happened

[naste.de.lumina]

You know, between what happened on the Alps and what just happened in Nepal, seems like those bastards would have turned the Hell Gate off by now, lol :(

I think it's worth keeping an eye on, how about some friggin' X-Files action on their sorry butts???? @@*

I'm not kidding, I think it's awful.


P.S. does anyone here have Data regarding what LHC @ CERN may have been doing when Japan had big quake string?
3/11/11 was LHC operating?



The CERN plant is located right on top of one of the electromagnetic grid nodes of the planet and the energy of these collisions must be dissipated in some way.

This case of Nepal if it is correct, it seems to me a side effect of the CERN experiments.

See this other 'coincidence'.
y2FgNN30_r8

[naste.de.lumina]

CERN document refers to UFOs.

What does this quote about UFOs in the 2015 strategy overview document of CERN I do not know, but it seems suspicious.


2015 strategy overview

2015 will be a re-commissioning, re-conditioning year. Following initial commissioning with beam, the intensity and performance ramp-up will take longer than it did in 2011 and 2012.

- 2015 starts with system tests in parallel with hardware commissioning. Dry runs of operations functionality also in parallel.
- This is followed by the Machine Checkout with particular attention to machine protection commissioning.
- Low intensity commissioning with beam of the full operational cycle will last about 2 months. This will include first pass machine protection commissioning and validation in parallel with system commissioning.
- An exit condition of the beam commissioning phase is first stable beams with a low number of bunches and low luminosity.
- Scrubbing for around 9 days will be required early on (partially with 25 ns beam) paving the way for 50 ns operation.
- Intensity ramp-up with 50 ns is the foreseen. This will take 3 weeks or so. During this stage system commissioning with higher intensity continues (instrumentation, RF, TFB, injection, beam dumps, machine protection, vacuum...). Variables at this stage: bunch intensity, batch structure, number of bunches, emittance. Physics fills can be kept reasonable short during this phase given the experiments lack of interest in accumulating too much 50 ns data.
- Following the intensity ramp up a reasonably short period of 50 ns operation is envisaged. This will be used to characterize vacuum, heat load, electron cloud, losses, instabilities, UFOs, impedance. Nominal bunch intensity (1.2e11 ppb), beta* 80 cm, normalized emittance of 2.5 microns gives ~4.5e33 cm-2s-1 and a pile-up of around 27. We would image less than, or up to, 1 fb-1 being delivered during the 50 ns ramp-up/running-in phase.
- Thereafter 14 days scrubbing will be required for 25 ns operation, followed by a gentle intensity ramp up with 25 ns dictated by electron cloud conditions with further scrubbing as required.
- Initial performance with 25 ns: in the 25 ns run at the end of 2012, 25 ns physics was delivered with up to 400 bunches. An 800 bunch attempt was dumped by - --ALICE going into collision. The beam was made up of batches of 96 bunches (2 injections of 48 from the PS to the SPS). Electron cloud was manageable because of the reduced batch length (nominal would be 5*48 = 240). If we imagine being able to get reasonable quickly up to 800 bunches we should be able to deliver something like 0.5 fb-1 per week during initial 25 ns operation.
- 50 ns is held in reserve as a long term operational option only in case of serious problems with 25 ns.

Full schedule here. Given a timely start of beam commissioning, the timing of the technical stops is more-or-less fixed. MD is more flexible, and as noted on the full schedule, the timing of the scrubbing runs is indicative and will ultimately depend on progress with beam.

Source: http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/2015/2015-strategy-overview.htm

[Atlas]

CERN document refers to UFOs.
See: UFOs in the LHC after LS1 (https://espace.cern.ch/acc-tec-sector/Chamonix/Chamx2012/papers/TB_7_06.pdf)


UFOs (“Unidentified Falling Objects”) are potentially a major luminosity limitation for nominal LHC operation. [...] In 2010 and 2011, in total 35 LHC fills were dumped due to UFOs. In the second half of 2011, the impact of UFOs was mitigated by large-scale increases and optimizations of the BLM thresholds and a conditioning effect for arc UFOs. Nevertheless, 16’000 candidate UFO events below the BLM dump thresholds were recorded and analyzed. [...] the MKI UFOs have been identified as being most likely macro particles originating from the ceramic tube.

[naste.de.lumina]

SYMMETRY - CERN opera, trailer v.2

https://vimeo.com/120676848

[Nick Matkin]

The CERN plant is located right on top of one of the electromagnetic grid nodes of the planet and the energy of these collisions must be dissipated in some way.


Do you have a source for that?

Nick

[naste.de.lumina]

The CERN plant is located right on top of one of the electromagnetic grid nodes of the planet and the energy of these collisions must be dissipated in some way.


Do you have a source for that?

Nick


At 3:03
A-lx9HrfNsQ

[DNA]

The picture in the OP of Shiva's Cosmic Dance at CERN raises the question: "Is the Large Hadron Collider, LHC, The Stargate of Shiva?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVk-xzSDkK4?list=FLnA_0vPd_7VbtO23gQiXY_g

According to researcher William Henry, the ancient Egyptian object named Ta-Wer, aka “Osiris device", was a stargate machine capable to open wormholes or dimensional openings used by Seth and Osiris to “travel across the underworld.”

The wormhole model (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/27xikhu/8), proposed by the physicist Kurt Gödel (http://bigthink.com/dr-kakus-universe/is-time-travel-possible-part-ii)is identical to (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/2jeclrn/8)the “Boat of Million Years“, (http://nl.tinypic.com/r/fc623s/8) used by Ra to travel across the underworld.
The Ta-Wer could produce a huge amount of energy, enough to "bend" the space, forming two light cones, interconneted by a space-time tunnel where matter could pass. (Among UFO researchers it is said that the Ta-Wer could be part of a huge device that activated dimensional portals, stargates or wormholes.)
This supposed stargate device was placed within the 'Osirion', a huge underground chamber built below the Seti temple, in Abydos.
This remind us the underground facility where is placed the LHC, the huge subatomic particle booster supposedly built to teproduce energy conditions similar to those following the Big Bang.
But according to Prof Irina Aref’eva and Dr Igor Volovich, both mathematical physicists at the Steklov Mathematical Institute in Moscow, the energies generated by the subatomic collisions in the LHC may be powerful enough to rip space-time itself, spawning wormholes.

Could it be that this 27 km diameter collider is a real stargate machine?
According to Ph.D Otto Rossler and the Nobel physicist Frank Wilczek the LHC can produce an amount of energy capable to open a small black hole.
Regarding it was built with this purpose, the question is, should the LHC bring something to earth? Or someone? * [Or is it to get some people out?]

Maybe we can find the answers in the building of CERN.

http://i62.tinypic.com/w9v5hf.jpg

We know that scientists of world wide have been working on LHC development, including Indian scientists, but a 2m high statue of the most feared hindu deity EVER, in front of the LHC facility, seems weird.

A group of Portugese students of the Santa Cicilia Music Academi took images of odd panels within the CERN building, with ancient writings, most of them in Sanskrit, but also with these strange, unknown characters.....
They could be just fancy messages left by foreign scientists, representing their nations. Some panel seems ancient Mandarin, other some Arab characters, but one particular panel has very strange characters and an other panel has Sanskrit characters.

http://i59.tinypic.com/11j7v36.jpg

In India, the only people that read and write Sanskrit, are scholars of Vedas and Upanishads, scriptures written in the “language of the gods”.
Why do these panels have security sensors around them and what are they?? Invocations???








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwCaZaSon9A

The above information is quite good, and reminded me of this little cartoon. The cartoon has a piece based on Drunvello Melchizedek's assertion that Martians came to earth and tried creating a false Merkaba, this technological disaster opened up a hole in space and time, allowing a multitude of negative nonorganic parasites to enter our world. Some think this is where the archons came from.

This is crazy.
Check out the pictures later in the article. You will see undeniable faces in the energy release. You have to see this.


http://www.groundzeromedia.org/hadron-stargate-infernal-maelstrom/

A picture showing an energy flash from the LHC this month showed a series of faces. It's quite amazing if real, you can view it by following the link to ground zero above.

[Nick Matkin]

The CERN plant is located right on top of one of the electromagnetic grid nodes of the planet and the energy of these collisions must be dissipated in some way.


Do you have a source for that?

Nick


At 3:03
A-lx9HrfNsQ

Thanks. Not convinced though - sorry. I'd want to know who 'detected' and plotted those ley lines and when, using what methods (particularly across the oceans), and what form the 'energy' takes, and how strong it has to be before it is considered ley energy above any background measurement.

I see the St Michael Ley (Cornwall to Norfolk) is not in the right place, that's the only one I know, so all the others could just as easily be wrong or just made up.

The MH17 site is not even shown in Ukraine and why is the Norwegian Spiral placed over the north Scottish coast?

Is the video maker a physicist, or just some internet mischief maker who makes videos like this for fun and hits?

He needs much more discernible evidence and data before he has a case - that goes for the rest of his video.

Nick

[naste.de.lumina]

Thanks. Not convinced though - sorry. I'd want to know who 'detected' and plotted those ley lines and when, using what methods (particularly across the oceans), and what form the 'energy' takes, and how strong it has to be before it is considered ley energy above any background measurement.

I see the St Michael Ley (Cornwall to Norfolk) is not in the right place, that's the only one I know, so all the others could just as easily be wrong or just made up.

The MH17 site is not even shown in Ukraine and why is the Norwegian Spiral placed over the north Scottish coast?

Is the video maker a physicist, or just some internet mischief maker who makes videos like this for fun and hits?

He needs much more discernible evidence and data before he has a case - that goes for the rest of his video.

Nick

I posted this video to show you where I got the idea of the relationship between CERN and Ley Lines, nothing more than that.

It was never my intention to convince you. I replied why I respect you.

What do you consider as a valid form, does not convince me too, simply because the intention is not measured.

[RunningDeer]

Caravan To Midnight - Episode 268 CERN, The Super-Collider with Anthony Patch
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Published on Jul 3, 2015

Episode 268 – Counter Environmental Radical and Nefarious? Today we welcome Anthony Patch on board to explore CERN and find out what the Super-Collider is doing deep below the earth.

[observer]

The Big Question, on the table, is: this Large Hadron Collider (LHC), could it really be a Star Gate in disguise?

After listening to the Caravan To Midnight Video with Anthony Patch, that RunningDeer offered in Comment #196, it appears as though Mr. Patch has gotten to the bottom of what this CERN Monster is really all about.

Note: The interview that Paula posted starts at the 32:50 mark.

Thank you Paula for this contribution.

Website: anthonypatch.com (http://www.anthonypatch.com/)

[gripreaper]

After listening to Anthony Patch, if observer would indulge me to go off on a related tangent, I would say:

There is nothing new under the sun. The manipulation of DNA, based on other dimensional technology and intervention, occurred in ancient antiquity, and we are the chimeric hybrids of that manipulation. You might say homo sapien sapien’s are the current chimera.

The manipulation of the very fabric of creation, as evidenced in our current reality via CERN, was also practiced in antiquity. That manipulation resulted in the almost complete annihilation of the species, and this race memory, this deeply imbedded core DNA fear, is what the PTB use to manipulate us and keep us away from the true potential power we have as immortal souls.

So, while the loonie-naughties are messing around with a new chimera, terraforming planet earth atmosphere to eliminate us, beta testing the AI entrainment and control of all thoughts and actions, and bringing in an environment which is conducive to this new human 2.0, and colliding particles to blow open up a portal through the ionosphere, to let certain entities emerge and inhabit these bodies, let us be mindful.

We’ve “been here, done this” before and the outcome was disastrous, and it took us many thousands of years to recover from that which was destroyed, the ancient knowledge and the ancient internal powers of the indigenous creation. Many of the original strands of DNA were deactivated and most of mankind operates from the single 2 strands of the double helix, and has no access to any other of the potentials of the full 13 strands. We only use about 10% of our brain, and why is that?

Yet, they still screwed up. The original chimera retained the original blueprint, and this is what caused the ancient wars between the gods (those aliens who claim the divine right) and mankind, because the second chimeric hybrid was dumbed down even further so that the slave species would be even more docile.

Yet, the divergents are still here, those with access to the higher brain centers of the cerebrum and cerebellum, and an active pineal gland. The power available to them is astronomical if they would just tap into it. It really is up to them, just like it was back in antiquity when they fought the gods in the great cataclysm, to save their dumbed down brothers the slaves. It was the loonie-naughties who misused the technology and caused the immense heat which blew up Tiamat and caused the raining of so much water to fall to earth, raising the oceans 300 feet and deluging all the ancient cities.

They put their allegiance with polarized astral entities that no longer have an empathic connection to source, and thrive on vampiring energy from others, almost as if earth is a breeding ground for energy which can then be offered up in ritual to feed these discarnate entities. The empathic gene is virtually stamped out of a large portion of homo sapiens sapiens and is well hidden, and these nefarious interlopers are working overtime to keep it down and to stamp it out.

It was these same nefarious interlopers who messed with the reproductive genes and made it possible for us to reproduce like rabbits, against the fundamental laws of nature, and this big mistake is now staring them right in the face. Did they just need a slave race that would only last long enough to remain docile, or are they planning the ultimate ritual sacrifice and the fact that there are 7 billion of us intentional? Are we about to be harvested?

It is some pretty spooky stuff they’re doing, almost too sci-fi for most to grok, so it behooves those who know how to protect themselves, to shield their energy fields from psychic attack, who carry the ancient knowledge, who hold the ancient crystals, and the original collective dream, to bring forth the dharma of earth and reopen the book of Enoch, and hold the space for a new paradigm to emerge. Remember, the energy is not linear. The energy the divergents hold has an order of magnitude and amplification which cannot be measured, no matter how sophisticated the technology.

Since I’m one of the dumbed down versions of the second chimera, I can’t help you, but those of you who can know who you are :)

[observer]

Well A1-grip, old boy, I think you've summed it up pretty well - once again.


"....I can’t help you, but those of you who can know who you are."

From this point-on, it all boils down to a single moment in eternity that lies not too far within our immediate future.

Will the Break-Away Civilization of psychopaths, with their finger on the CERN button be allowed to 'reboot' the eternal order - once again?

What individual among us can stop that?

The Common Reality only changes with a paradigm shift in the Mass Consciousness of Humanity.

Are we there yet?

[observer]

To answer the rhetorical question, "are we there yet?", I go off-topic for just one comment. [it's my thread, I can do that if I want to]

I don't think anyone can answer this question better than George Carlen articulated it in one of his rants. I believe this best describes the current state of affairs in which we find ourselves.

Caution: Adult Language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSDU8Laoi2U

[Savannah]

There is another thread on Avalon about he rise in the schuman resonance, is there a connection with CERN? It has been proposed hat CERN may used for the Event.

[observer]

I haven't been following that thread, Savannah, but I can tell you this: The Schuman Cavity is the place where all broadcasted electromagnetic signals "bounce" so that radio stations can be received great distances from where they are broadcast. It is the same Schuman Cavity that the H.A.A.R.P. program manipulates weather in this global "weather warfare" program. It is the same Schuman Cavity where lightening is generated, and where frequency manipulation can cause earthquakes. It is the same Schuman Cavity where the baseline beat of the earth resonates, "the Schuman Resonance" - which is increasing in frequency.

Now, do you suppose the goings-on at CERN have anything to do with all of this?

Edit Update:

Since I made this comment, I went to the thread Savannah was talking about. I reviewed the comments and made my own comment #26, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83539-Schumann-resonance-has-doubled-Earth-ascending-another-recurring-disinfotainment&p=977656&viewfull=1#post977656).

[Savannah]

Bill just posted new info that the Schuman Resonance is not in fact increasing and the disinfo was started by Greg Bradan along time ago. However there still seems a connection between CERN and frequencies that effect he brain and mind control that should not be dismissed.

[observer]

I can most assuredly tell you, Savannah, the experiments at CERN are effecting the Schuman Cavity, but not in the way that is being discussed in the thread you recommended. As you can clearly see, the Schuman Resonance is not increasing, but there is a direct relationship to the experiments at CERN and increased tectonic activity.

I'm more concerned with the ever increasing movement of the Magnetic North Pole. I believe this is directly associated to the decades-long Hadron Collider experiments continuing all over the planet at advanced physics laboratorie .

[heyokah]

Published on Jun 22, 2015

Is the Large Hadron Collider manipulating the Ionosphere of Earth?
A Strange frequency continues to be detected in the Ionosphere as the Large Hadron Collider is at maximum speed.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbylleg154

[heyokah]

Could the purpose of CERN and the LHC be to create Black Goo?

I think this video presentation will fit in here very well, if this Black Goo, Harald Kautz-Vella is talking about is the anti matter they are trying to create.

****

Harald Kautz-Vella is talking about DNA /RNA/A.I./ morgallon fungus/ Black Goo and much more.


- The video starts with the different layers of chemtrail technology and he adresses Smart Dust.

- The use of Scalar Physics is explained, so you will have to pay attention.
This is about an extraterrestrial, dimensional Predator species that is silently assimilating humanity, and all life on earth

- Everything you want to know about Morgallon's disease and its use.

- There are 2 forms of Black Goo, one made by the earth, and another that was landed here by intention, in a meteor swarm, 80,000 years ago. Both are sentient and are designed to create life from the materials on the planet. In simple terms, its a "seed" device.

- Computer systems have a collective intelligence, working under a collective "AI" or artificial intelliegenec.
Some financial centres, have a quantum computer , derived from the alien black goo. The square wave signal in computers have a direct connection with this alien black goo, due to their scalar signature.

- and he's offering a solution as well.


Some YouTube info:

This conference presents cutting edge data of such importance some has yet to reach a text book.
Much is developing by the day. With further new information on the A-I and the Black Goo, only being discovered in recent days.



This is a 3rd edit, with additional Morgellons video.

Don't forget the Q & A
Interesting till the last minute.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j88BcgzzcTc?list=PLR03Wazmqjc9TNV9C3etaJjD Exfia7jqL

[Rollo]

Searl vs. CERN

Jason Verbelli speaks about some of his discoveries about CERN's so called "Higgs field"
and compares them with one of Professor John Searl's diagrams in print over 10 years ago.

Starts at 01:00 mark

WCRTXtfwVZc

PDF (https://www.scribd.com/doc/274979913/Searl-vs-CERN)

[Nick Matkin]

Published on Jun 22, 2015

Is the Large Hadron Collider manipulating the Ionosphere of Earth?
A Strange frequency continues to be detected in the Ionosphere as the Large Hadron Collider is at maximum speed.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbylleg154


A Strange frequency continues to be detected in the Ionosphere... Er - no. There isn't. Unfortunately this guy has a limited understanding of what the data he's using shows.

The ionosphere does not generate 'frequencies'. The page is showing the ionosphere's properties at various frequencies used in HF communications - specifically absorption of the D-Layer. This is affected by day/night/seasonal variations, and of course the sun. Not sure how CERN could beam up enough energy into the ionosphere from underground (somehow undetected!) to do all this.

Any weird ionosphere stuff gets detected by routine use - mostly, but not only - radio hams these days. By "weird" I mean SIDs, geomagnetic storms, anomalous propagation. These have always occurred from time to time, long before CERN, HAARP, etc. (An example I remember from the early 1980s was a specific European station drowned out by a co-channel station in the Philippines. All due to solar activity and the ionosphere.)

At the end of the video is the usual get-out phrase when there is no real data or the analysis is not understood: "...but as always, you decide."

Nick

[heyokah]

Published on Jun 22, 2015

Is the Large Hadron Collider manipulating the Ionosphere of Earth?
A Strange frequency continues to be detected in the Ionosphere as the Large Hadron Collider is at maximum speed.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbylleg154


A Strange frequency continues to be detected in the Ionosphere... Er - no. There isn't. Unfortunately this guy has a limited understanding of what the data he's using shows.

The ionosphere does not generate 'frequencies'. The page is showing the ionosphere's properties at various frequencies used in HF communications - specifically absorption of the D-Layer. This is affected by day/night/seasonal variations, and of course the sun. Not sure how CERN could beam up enough energy into the ionosphere from underground (somehow undetected!) to do all this.

Any weird ionosphere stuff gets detected by routine use - mostly, but not only - radio hams these days. By "weird" I mean SIDs, geomagnetic storms, anomalous propagation. These have always occurred from time to time, long before CERN, HAARP, etc. (An example I remember from the early 1980s was a specific European station drowned out by a co-channel station in the Philippines. All due to solar activity and the ionosphere.)

At the end of the video is the usual get-out phrase when there is no real data or the analysis is not understood: "...but as always, you decide."

Nick


Thanks Nick, for your opinion.

Time will tell.

[Nick Matkin]

Thanks Nick, for your opinion.

Time will tell.

Thanks heyokah, but my post isn't really an opinion. I worked in HF communications for over 30 years. If the website he is misinterpreting had been available in my day, life would have been much easier! It's not showing frequencies from the ionosphere, but frequencies absorbed by it. Specifically the D Layer

Anyway, the site he's using actually says across the top: "D Region Absorption Predictions" and the scale shows the frequency absorption in steps of 1 dB.

Yes, it's complicated, and this subject is open to mischievous misinterpretation by those who want to make a name for themselves, and get followed by those who are genuinely looking for answers to things they to don't understand.

It all sounds very convincing to the scientifically untrained, but conflating CERN (and sometimes HAARP and chemtrails too!) isn't helping explain what may be going on - which is almost always nothing sinister and much less appealing than a good conspiracy!

(To any HF radio aficionados, this site (http://www.infotechcomms.net/propcharts/) gives really useful info. I'm just waiting for someone to say what it's really showing the spread of radiation from Fukushima, or chemtialing density... :) )

[observer]

[....snip] I'm just waiting for someone to say what it's really showing the spread of radiation from Fukushima, or chemtialing density... :) )

Thanks for your input Nick. I too was doubtful, when I viewed the video, that proton propagation had anything to do with "amplified frequencies in the ionosphere". I would expect the phenomenon being described is more related to the sun, but I don't know how that works.

Personally, I'm more concerned with what all the loose subatomic particles escaping from CERN are doing to the Core Of The Planet, than any effect in the ionosphere.

In reference to your quote above, O.K., I'll bite....

The H.A.A.R.P. project is now spread all over the planet with duplicate facilities similar to the one outside Anchorage, Alaska, and operated by many divergent countries (allegedly). I will suggest, any unusual spikes in EM Frequencies discovered in the ionosphere will have a direct connection to H.A.A.R.P. The Chemtrail Phenomenon is simply a sub-set of the H.A.A.R.P. agenda.

Now, my suspicious nature might be inclined to link CERN to H.A.A.R.P. through cross-manipulation at the darkest levels of secrecy, but who am I to say?

[naste.de.lumina]

The octagon is not a coincidence, as well the support of UNESCO to the largest scientific experiment in progress on the planet that is CERN, at least officially.

CERN and the International Year of Light (http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2015/01/2015-international-year-light)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wosX1TIMurs/VLE1ncWjNsI/AAAAAAAAC6o/o9dLummnbPE/s1600/year2015unesco.jpg

http://www.epsnews.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/AD_CERN_IYL_slw.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OtyahrVl_a8/VC3vP6mZy3I/AAAAAAAAAq8/H_y0cbmGeo0/s1600/ir48dy.jpg


Hmmm .... emerge from sub atomic particles !!!!!! Very intriguing right?
http://www.groundzeromedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FACES-at-CERN.jpg


I know it seems a lot of fiction. But I think the CERN have 'physics' to it.
http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Screen-Shot-2015-08-14-at-12.18.32-AM-620x264.png

https://arianasiresearch.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-20-at-8-33-34-pm.png?w=660


Shiva Dance of Cosmos chinese version.
bj7UxNihydY

[Wide-Eyed]

How does a super-collider get constructed with billions in tax payer $$ and produce about as much as the current interest rate? And ... It has a corporate logo that looks like "666" and a large statue of Hindu God, Shiva outside it's HQ, it seems more like something out of a Bond film. Are we asleep? Tax payers pay for weapon that is meant for them?
Is it a weapon? Is it a door to "new physics" discoveries? Dark technology?

http://www.rt.com/op-edge/313922-cern-collider-hadron-higgs/

http://press.web.cern.ch/press-releases/2012/09/professor-agnieszka-zalewska-elected-president-cern-council


http://milesmathis.com/hawk3.pdf

http://www.astro.puc.cl/~rparra/tools/PAPERS/kozyrev1971.pdf: facepalm:

[Old Wolf]

There seems to be lots of concern about it, I suspect the real reason for it's construction is to create key elements for next generation nuclear weapons. That would explain the symbolism.

[yelik]

September appears to be a significant month with intertesting stuff going on:-

Sep 15th - end of Shemitah 7 year cycle which also coincides with stock market cycles

Sep 16th - FED meeting - possible interest rate hike and maybe an announcement of QE 4 to delay financial collapse. Global debt is 50% higher than 2008

Sep 23rd - CERN activity - tampering with the fabric of space and time - dangerous stuff

Sep 24th - Pope in Washington and UN meeting

Sep 28th- Blood Moon

A private site I use with some very knowledgeable people has just been hit

My laptop of high end pc also faulty



Maybe something is going on unless it's just an unusual set of coincidences and its psy-ops playing out!!!

[Tyy1907]

I'm gonna laugh when I hear that CERN got shut down yet again. Ha ha give it up globalists......

[heyokah]

I would like to point at this thread : Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed

[Wide-Eyed]

Thanks heyokah-my bad, I did a search: CERN , before starting thread and that didn't come up, however I now realize I have been through the thread before. Soo much to stay apprised and aware of I should have realized it would be a thread somewhere on PA.

[heyokah]

The mods can merge the threads, if you want. You just have to ask them.

[ghostrider]

anytime the mad scientist of Earth play with the foundation stones of life there is cause for concern ... they don't know what they are doing ... they never calculate side effects or long term effects , just like A bomb testing back in the 50's destroying the ozone layer making summers hotter , heating the ocean , making storms more violent , and solar radiation burning the skin at a higher rate ...splitting atoms , fusing them together and now ramping them up to near the speed of light and smashing them ??? they are clueless , and are playing with fire which could lead to a disaster that they have no protocols to deal with , as they are in uncharted territory ... Hell the wankers have built nuclear power plants on earthquake fault zones , and near oceans , hello contaminated water , sea life , radiation in storms ??? they forget water is picked up by heat carried into the air , formed in thunderstorms and dropped on people and their homes ... clueless ... ever wonder why are ancestors had to flee Lyra , then Mars and settle on Earth ??? geo-engineering their worlds ... Mars had an atmospheric collapse , it sent them underground , hence the tunnels and underground machines we found ( glass tubes ) ... they turned Mars into a place no one could live , just like they did Death Valley , and the Gobi Desert , in the ancient past scientist playing god ruined those areas and today they are still dead zones ...hint

[Omni]

I personally don't buy the stuff about cern being there to open portals for dark sources and stuff like that. Why would they use a publicly funded thing for such portals when they could have easily built a black project one a long time ago. Dark sources mostly come and go as they please I think. No need for some microscopic portal for darkness to be here. Whatever major dark sources there are in the galaxy, I am pretty certain they have already found us, and have no need for some crappy (tiny) technology portals to get here.

I could be wrong but CERN isn't a big deal IMO, nor do I think it is doing half of what the conspiracy sites say it is doing...

[yelik]

I think there are a number of similar accelerators dotted around the world, CERN is just one. Steven Hawkins and others claim some of the experiments going on at CERN are pretty dangerous and could create mini black holes and the like. CERN creates a magnetic field some 100,000 more powerful than earth

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks heyokah ...


The mods can merge the threads, if you want. You just have to ask them.

Merged :).

[Omni]

I think there are a number of similar accelerators dotted around the world, CERN is just one. Steven Hawkins and others claim some of the experiments going on at CERN are pretty dangerous and could create mini black holes and the like. CERN creates a magnetic field some 100,000 more powerful than earth

Interesting bit about the magnetic field, but how big is that field?

[yelik]

Hi Omni
I imagine the magnetic field is over a relative small area and shielded. It's the other exotic particles they may create that would likely be difficult to control

http://alternative-news.tk/cern-test-wipes-out-earths-magnetic-field-temporarily-what-about-the-next-time/


BPearth shows when Cern was turn up and tested it wiped out our magnetic field temporarily.

CERN “Strangelets”.

In 2015 CERN will begin colliding groups of 70 million lead hadrons at 287 tev, unpacking millions of quarks in each collision. Those quarks will be first accelerated at light speed, acquiring relativistic mass, becoming heavier strange quarks, the substance of a strange quark-gluon soup called a ‘strangelet‘. The strange liquid has the potential to become stable and start an ‘ice-9′ big-bang reaction. If that happens that effectively transforms the Earth into a pulsar.

While CERN adamantly denies to the public and the press that production of Strangelets is possible, it runs a program called CASTOR for Centaruro And STrangelets Object Research, whose researchers affirm in their inner reports to the company the ‘likely’ probability of creating them. This is in accordance to the most advanced literature on the subject, but of course, it must be hidden to the public and the naive press…




“LHC page 1” shows the status of the LHC last night. The black line shows the beam energy increasing to 6.5 TeV (Image:LHC/CERN)

Last night the Operations team for the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) successfully circulated a beam at 6.5 teralectronvolts (TeV) – one of many steps before the accelerator will deliver collisions at four interaction points within the ALICE, ATLAS, CMS and LHCb detectors.

image: http://veeladwa.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/10027324153_5f5e5813ea_o.jpg


The image above shows “LHC page 1”- the status of the accelerator between 10.45pm and 1am last night. The lines on the graph show the intensity of Beam 1 (blue) and Beam 2 (red) as the team injects the beams into the accelerator. The black line shows the energy for Beam 2, which begins to increase at around 12.35am from its injection energy of 450 GeV and ramps to 6.5 TeV (shown as 6500 gigaelectronvolts at the top left of the screen).

Find out more about how the team is preparing the LHC for collisions at 6.5 TeV.

ALERT: CERN To Attempt ‘Big Bang’ In March, Top Scientists Issue Warnings – Read more!
http://youtu.be/ovdXq5KitUg

Read more at http://alternative-news.tk/cern-test-wipes-out-earths-magnetic-field-temporarily-what-about-the-next-time/#CMSjRFwMfsbQhSj3.99

[observer]

It's good to see all of these random threads consolidated into one.

[gripreaper]

I personally don't buy the stuff about cern being there to open portals for dark sources and stuff like that. Why would they use a publicly funded thing for such portals when they could have easily built a black project one a long time ago. Dark sources mostly come and go as they please I think. No need for some microscopic portal for darkness to be here. Whatever major dark sources there are in the galaxy, I am pretty certain they have already found us, and have no need for some crappy (tiny) technology portals to get here.

I could be wrong but CERN isn't a big deal IMO, nor do I think it is doing half of what the conspiracy sites say it is doing...

It does seem far fetched an idea, but I'm not quite ready to throw it out entirely. Take a ride with me for a minute:

So, this collider can take and smash the very core elements of manifestation. The idea, is that these elite parasites are terraforming this planet, through chemtrails and GMO foods, etc., for a new human 2.0, and these entities cannot survive in this environment without some modifications. It is also a postulate that the current humans are being slowly exterminated through introducing poisons and toxins into the very elements which give us life, like our air, water and food.

Another postulate is that these new humans are really the old inhabitants of some interloping from thousands of years ago, who wish to return in their own form and not as part of the human hybrids which we are, having been commingled and interbred with these entities thousands of years ago.

So, CERN being used to terraform this planet, to open a portal or other some such gateway for a transition to occur, does not seem that far fetched to me, at least at this juncture in our evolution, or devolution, whichever you choose.

I'm certain it has other functions as well, more palatable mainstream functions which can be sold to the public, but there is definitely some sinister functions we are not being told about.

[Selkie]

I personally don't buy the stuff about cern being there to open portals for dark sources and stuff like that. Why would they use a publicly funded thing for such portals when they could have easily built a black project one a long time ago. Dark sources mostly come and go as they please I think. No need for some microscopic portal for darkness to be here. Whatever major dark sources there are in the galaxy, I am pretty certain they have already found us, and have no need for some crappy (tiny) technology portals to get here.

I could be wrong but CERN isn't a big deal IMO, nor do I think it is doing half of what the conspiracy sites say it is doing...

It does seem far fetched an idea, but I'm not quite ready to throw it out entirely. Take a ride with me for a minute:

So, this collider can take and smash the very core elements of manifestation. The idea, is that these elite parasites are terraforming this planet, through chemtrails and GMO foods, etc., for a new human 2.0, and these entities cannot survive in this environment without some modifications. It is also a postulate that the current humans are being slowly exterminated through introducing poisons and toxins into the very elements which give us life, like our air, water and food.

Another postulate is that these new humans are really the old inhabitants of some interloping from thousands of years ago, who wish to return in their own form and not as part of the human hybrids which we are, having been commingled and interbred with these entities thousands of years ago.

So, CERN being used to terraform this planet, to open a portal or other some such gateway for a transition to occur, does not seem that far fetched to me, at least at this juncture in our evolution, or devolution, whichever you choose.

I'm certain it has other functions as well, more palatable mainstream functions which can be sold to the public, but there is definitely some sinister functions we are not being told about.

Yes, but haven't they been doing this for years and years...smashing atoms together to make subatomic particles? What makes CERN different, or more threatening, than what they've been doing for years?

[observer]

[....snip]
Yes, but haven't they been doing this for years and years...smashing atoms together to make subatomic particles? What makes CERN different, or more threatening, than what they've been doing for years?

There has never before been an "atom smashing" experiment on the planet performed at over one trillion electron volts.

[Omni]

So, CERN being used to terraform this planet, to open a portal or other some such gateway for a transition to occur, does not seem that far fetched to me, at least at this juncture in our evolution, or devolution, whichever you choose.
What would stop dark ETs from creating the same thing on the moon when they got here? And opening a portal that way? It just doesn't sit right with me that these portals need CERN to be around. And I can't help but notice how crazy the CERN theories make conspiracy realists look to scientists. It does seem to have a strategic edge to it... Perhaps they made it have a 666 and all that on purpose to create a buzz around what it does in the conspiracy crowd.

I am not saying I think it is impossible that CERN creates portals. But I do think any needed portal would have been made thousands of years ago in terms of dark sources. I don't know CERN enough to know for sure what is truth and what isn't, but I do know the disinformation sources like to mystify the truth and the CERN stuff fits a certain mold I've seen... Which is inconclusive but a bit fishy to me.

[observer]

[....snip]
What would stop dark ETs from creating the same thing on the moon when they got here? And opening a portal that way? It just doesn't sit right with me that these portals need CERN to be around. And I can't help but notice how crazy the CERN theories make conspiracy realists look to scientists. It does seem to have a strategic edge to it... Perhaps they made it have a 666 and all that on purpose to create a buzz around what it does in the conspiracy crowd.

I am not saying I think it is impossible that CERN creates portals. But I do think any needed portal would have been made thousands of years ago in terms of dark sources. I don't know CERN enough to know for sure what is truth and what isn't, but I do know the disinformation sources like to mystify the truth and the CERN stuff fits a certain mold I've seen... Which is inconclusive but a bit fishy to me.

It is impossible to see the Big Picture until one looks at all the objective evidence.

There have been bases on the Moon that date far into antiquity. Human Beings didn't make these. [At least in this current "restart" of Human Civilization] These bases are most likely portals for hyperdimensional 'jumping', dating back to the beginning of the Human Experiment. The Human Condition is a millennia-old controlled agenda.

It has been just of recent, perhaps back to the NAZI Reich, that earthbound human bloodline elite have gained the technology that was once the exclusive tools of hyperdimensional entities.

There is a war going-on. This "break-away" civilization that holds the ignition keys to CERN is attempting to make their own leap into hyperdimensional space.

This is my conclusion from observing the objective evidence.

[naste.de.lumina]

I personally don't buy the stuff about cern being there to open portals for dark sources and stuff like that. Why would they use a publicly funded thing for such portals when they could have easily built a black project one a long time ago. Dark sources mostly come and go as they please I think. No need for some microscopic portal for darkness to be here. Whatever major dark sources there are in the galaxy, I am pretty certain they have already found us, and have no need for some crappy (tiny) technology portals to get here.

I could be wrong but CERN isn't a big deal IMO, nor do I think it is doing half of what the conspiracy sites say it is doing...

It does seem far fetched an idea, but I'm not quite ready to throw it out entirely. Take a ride with me for a minute:

So, this collider can take and smash the very core elements of manifestation. The idea, is that these elite parasites are terraforming this planet, through chemtrails and GMO foods, etc., for a new human 2.0, and these entities cannot survive in this environment without some modifications. It is also a postulate that the current humans are being slowly exterminated through introducing poisons and toxins into the very elements which give us life, like our air, water and food.

Another postulate is that these new humans are really the old inhabitants of some interloping from thousands of years ago, who wish to return in their own form and not as part of the human hybrids which we are, having been commingled and interbred with these entities thousands of years ago.

So, CERN being used to terraform this planet, to open a portal or other some such gateway for a transition to occur, does not seem that far fetched to me, at least at this juncture in our evolution, or devolution, whichever you choose.

I'm certain it has other functions as well, more palatable mainstream functions which can be sold to the public, but there is definitely some sinister functions we are not being told about.

I would like to remind my friends that a portal can also be used to exit and not just to enter.

[yelik]

it is easy for such a large set up like CERN to have many agendas some of which are secret and hidden from the main stream scientist who just do their job and likely keep their mouth shut because of the implications, just like the military

[observer]

I don't know much about this YouTube Channel, but I happened across this video today. It was just published a few days ago, on the 10th.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZnsZPhonnI

If the information in this video is accurate, it is very disturbing. This confirms my suspicions, and validates the reason I began this thread.

[amor]

My suspicions have peaked re the existence of Cern. I too believe that I understand what is being called Dark Matter and have an entirely different view of what it is. Very simply, it is the REST of the STRUCTURE OF LIGHT outside of our visible spectrum due to differences in wavelength and the complex spiraling curvatures of this field of energy. Now, as to Cern. Planet X has raised its ugly head once again on the internet (reference the subject video on today's list at Avalon). One of the best analyses of Bible events viewed from the point of view that they represent stories revealing clues as to the planet's future passage and a very bad one. There is a very strong possibility that CERN is going to try to move Earth out of the way of Nibiru; but they cannot come out and say so or the people will panic. The Indian Goddess of Death in her dance has her arms and legs changing angular directions at 45 degrees to each other. This describes the motions necessary to produce spirals, which is exactly the picture of the God Energy, the confluence of which is responsible for ROTATION of the God Force meeting itself coming from opposite directions at angles less than 90 degrees, resulting in what we perceive as the beginning knitting of matter into ever more complex patterns. This first confluence of THE FORCE might be called the God Particle, but it would never be seen as far down the knitting process by anything as material as the Hadron. Much better would be a computer/ 3D hologram interface. To replicate a Universe might require the computing power of the parallel computers of the government. As I mentioned sometime ago, I believe that the Aliens under Lake Titicaca in South America have accomplished this along with the message that they wanted to know where they were in the Universe.

[StandingWave]

Here's a mad idea: Could CERN and the other installations of this sort be some form of steering mechanism for Earth?

Whenever we alter one magnetic field relative to another, torque is experienced. All magnetic fields are 'dimples' or toroidal 'pinches' in some greater field. Think Homopolar motor (https://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=homopolar-motors)...

[betoobig]

Maybe i am saying a nonsense but could they be opening a "back door" to scape. I don´t think they need to open a startgate to let Annunaki come back, they allready came as they whished before. So this opening only will make sense as a getaway. Just guessing.
Love...Evol

[naste.de.lumina]

:bump:
Seems to me a kind of 'The Divine Comedy'.



Description
CERN is currently in the process of cranking up the Large Hadron Collider — the largest machine man has ever built — to 13TeV, the highest known energy level humans have ever used in a particle collider experiment in known modern history.

What are they searching for? According to this hipster physicist in skinny jeans over at CERN, "things like dark matter, dark energy, super symmetry, quantum black holes, large extra dimensions"...

Everything you need to know about what CERN is doing can be summed up in the short statements of this CERN physicist at the LHC, which he finishes in a rather blasé tone with, "We don't know what we're going to find at 13 TeV at the LHC."

Dark Energy, Black Holes, Other Dimensions?
CERN Scientist Sums up What They're Doing at CERN
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Cern, I Pet Goat & Tomorrowland - Dance Of Destruction
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[CD7]

Awwww The Dance.......cosmologically from some dances I've seen NOTHING HERE COMPARES.....

[naste.de.lumina]

Awwww The Dance.......cosmologically from some dances I've seen NOTHING HERE COMPARES.....

:thumb: I agree 100% with you.

[naste.de.lumina]

Video montage I made on CERN

Cern Project
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[heyokah]

Video montage I made on CERN

Cern Project
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Sorry about that.

[naste.de.lumina]

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Sorry about that.

I removed, increasing the volume and re-sent. It's Ok now.

[observer]

Video montage I made on CERN

Cern Project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzfRoLlS07Q

Great montage, naste.

Here's a short clip you might consider adding to the final cut....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM

[naste.de.lumina]

Great montage, naste.

Here's a short clip you might consider adding to the final cut....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM

Thank you for your kindness observer.

I take this opportunity to say that the video resolution has been corrected.

Cern Project (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=1004422&viewfull=1#post1004422)

Hugs.

Naste.

[observer]

Here's a quote from Bill Ryan's first interview with Henry Deacon, found here (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html).


[My emphasis]-
[Henry]- There's a project called [I]Shiva Nova at Livermore which uses arrays of giant lasers. These are huge lasers, huge capacitors, many terawatts of energy, in a building built on giant springs [extends his arms to show the size], all focused on a tiny tiny point. This creates a fusion reaction which replicates certain conditions for nuclear weapons testing. It’s like a nuke test in lab conditions, and there's very powerful data collection focused on that point where all the energy is focused.

The problem is that all extremely high-energy events like this create rips in the fabric of spacetime. This was observed back in the early Hiroshima and Nagasaki events, and you can even see it in the old movies. Look for what looks like an expanding energy sphere, and I can send you a link to show you. The problem with creating rips in spacetime, whether they're big or little, is that things get in that you don’t want to be there.

- Things get in?

[Henry]- Things get in. Things that we all know about that are discussed on the net a lot. Beings, and influences, and all kinds of weird stuff, and I can tell you they’ve created big problems.

[Bill]- What kind of problems?

[Henry]- [pause]
The problem of their presence and then what happens next. The other problem is that if you’re creating rips in spacetime you’re messing with time itself, whether you mean to or not. There have been attempts to fix that, and it all results in a complicated overlay of time loops. Some ETs are trying to help, and others, others are not. When predicting futures, we can only talk about probable and possible futures. This is all extremely complex and very highly classified. Basically, it’s just a huge mess. We've opened Pandora’s Box, starting with the Manhattan Project, and we haven't yet found a way to deal with the consequences.



CERN is a continuation of this "[Dance of] Shiva Nova" Project. Henry's testimony is directly related to what they are doing at CERN.

I've heard of this high energy time distortion phenomenon being described in discussions of the "Philadelphia Experiment", where the project all began when observations of time distortions were noted during extremely high amperage welding operations experienced during battle ship repairs.

"Things get in", and quite possibly at high enough energy levels, things get out....

[B]Shiva's Cosmic Dance at CERN -
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[Nick Matkin]

Just curious to know where project Shiva Nova at Livermore gets "many terawatts" of energy from without anyone noticing, bearing in mind the whole of North America only generates 1.2 terawatts. (Data source here (http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/IEDIndex3.cfm?tid=2&pid=2&aid=7).)

[observer]

Just curious to know where project Shiva Nova at Livermore gets "many terawatts" of energy from without anyone noticing, bearing in mind the whole of North America only generates 1.2 terawatts. (Data source here (http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/IEDIndex3.cfm?tid=2&pid=2&aid=7).)

Good question Nick,

Perhaps Bill Ryan can answer that question for you.

I would suspect Livermore got it's ability to generate 1.2 terawatts the same way CERN is able to generate 13 TeV (teraelectron volts) of energy for its current ongoing experiment.

You may find an answer, here (http://home.web.cern.ch/about/engineering/powering-cern). Although, that link didn't really answer it for me, leading my suspicion to "unknown technology". The global elite are at least 50 years ahead of the general public's understanding of technological capabilities.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's a quote from Bill Ryan's first interview with Henry Deacon, found here (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html).


[My emphasis]-
[Henry]- There's a project called [I]Shiva Nova at Livermore which uses arrays of giant lasers. These are huge lasers, huge capacitors, many terawatts of energy, in a building built on giant springs [extends his arms to show the size], all focused on a tiny tiny point. This creates a fusion reaction which replicates certain conditions for nuclear weapons testing. It’s like a nuke test in lab conditions, and there's very powerful data collection focused on that point where all the energy is focused.

The problem is that all extremely high-energy events like this create rips in the fabric of spacetime. This was observed back in the early Hiroshima and Nagasaki events, and you can even see it in the old movies. Look for what looks like an expanding energy sphere, and I can send you a link to show you. The problem with creating rips in spacetime, whether they're big or little, is that things get in that you don’t want to be there.

[Bill]- Things get in?

[Henry]- Things get in. Things that we all know about that are discussed on the net a lot. Beings, and influences, and all kinds of weird stuff, and I can tell you they’ve created big problems.

[Bill]- What kind of problems?

[Henry]- [pause]
The problem of their presence and then what happens next. The other problem is that if you’re creating rips in spacetime you’re messing with time itself, whether you mean to or not. There have been attempts to fix that, and it all results in a complicated overlay of time loops. Some ETs are trying to help, and others, others are not. When predicting futures, we can only talk about probable and possible futures. This is all extremely complex and very highly classified. Basically, it’s just a huge mess. We've opened Pandora’s Box, starting with the Manhattan Project, and we haven't yet found a way to deal with the consequences.

CERN is a continuation of this "[Dance of] Shiva Nova" Project. Henry's testimony is directly related to what they are doing at CERN.




Yes. Of interest, Henry said several times that there was nothing being done in the public domain now that hadn't already been done 20 years ago behind the scenes — including huge projects like CERN.

He always maintained that the alternative media focus on CERN was way over-hyped.

[Nick Matkin]

Just curious to know where project Shiva Nova at Livermore gets "many terawatts" of energy from without anyone noticing, bearing in mind the whole of North America only generates 1.2 terawatts. (Data source here (http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/IEDIndex3.cfm?tid=2&pid=2&aid=7).)

Good question Nick,

Perhaps Bill Ryan can answer that question for you.

I would suspect Livermore got it's ability to generate 1.2 terawatts the same way CERN is able to generate 13 TeV (teraelectron volts) of energy for its current ongoing experiment.

You may find an answer, here (http://home.web.cern.ch/about/engineering/powering-cern). Although, that link didn't really answer it for me, leading my suspicion to "unknown technology". The global elite are at least 50 years ahead of the general public's understanding of technological capabilities.

Electron volts are not a unit of power (note - not energy), though is often used that way to 'big-up' stories. It's a charge on individual subatomic particles.

The following illustration is from How much is 1 electron-volt (eV)? (http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/23294/how-much-is-1-electron-volt-ev)


One TeV (a tera electron volt) is about the energy of motion of a flying mosquito. [13 tera electron volts is the power of 13 flying mosquitoes!]

When you lift up your 2.5Kg laptop (a 15-inch apple macbook pro, for example) by a foot, you do a work of approximately 2.5Kg×10ms−2×0.3m=7.5J which is about 4.7×10^19eV. So an eV is a really low energy scale by everyday standards.

Kinda puts things into perspective.

(The trouble with explaining things is that the scary stuff tends to disappear!)