Weird second and third hand anecdotes from the military

[Baby Steps]

Hi,
Just intriguing stuff I heard
1. From uk army: the giant mine workings under Wiltshire that has been designated a government refuge if nuclear war occurs may be mothballed but contains a large store of steam locomotives, the only technology that would survive an emp.
2. From uk navy: in 1991 when the scuds were raining down on tel aviv, the Israelis sent two f 15 s carrying neutron bombs to Baghdad . These were called back at the last moment as USA threatened to cease all aid to Israel .
3. From navy seal: a number of personnel on a carrier witnessed two golden glowing crescent shaped objects leap from the ocean and fly off. They were forced to sign a secrecy agreement.
4. From navy seal: an officer stood in front of him and morphed into a reptilian. The seal, having Native American blood held himself together. The officer morphed back, complimented him on his strength and enquired about his background.
5. From navy seal: a human touched the hand of a grey. The hand of the grey morphed into human on contact and this image moved up its arm until the human let go and it then dissipated. I think they have some kind of DNA holographic mimicry.
6. From a uk security guard: patrolling government meeting rooms in Whitehall London, 1990 or so, came apon minutes of a meeting between the Iranian military and Iranian interior ministry. The meeting was about trade. The interior guys wanted to buy shipments of food and the military wanted h bombs from Ukraine or Kazakhstan . The military got their way.
7. From South African special forces: in the 80s sa had atom bombs and the missiles to deliver but no guidance. Special forces were trained to dig a trench near the target and joy stick the war heads in.
8. From the same guy: they had mbeki in their sites and Pretoria said no.
9. From a reporter. In the 90s a uk unit was stationed in pristina Kosovo and six squaddies developed oral gonorrhoea . The medical officer traced each soldiers movements over the last month. There was only one occasion when these six were at the same time at the same place. It was a pizza restaurant in pristina. Need I say more?
Any anecdotes to share?
Bless
H

[Baby Steps]

Addendum: from British navy: if British prime minister and deputy prime minister are dead or missing the admiralty and entire navy including subs pass to USA control.by treaty.
Addendum2: from friend hiking in Papua New Guinea : their military are building massive bases and dumps on the tops of the highest mountains.

[Baby Steps]

Addendum: From a contractor: In the 90's the British telecom system included hardened telephone exchanges with diesel back up generators. These were decommissioned.
Addendum: From a Pakistani:The Saudis have funded production of their own store of nukes, in Pakistan. These can be moved to Saudi at any time.
Addendum: From a contractor to the Freemasons: In the Covent Garden/Holborn area of London there is a vast network of tunnels and galleries, some very old. These are connected to a huge bunker at chancery lane. This is what recently caught fire resulting in many streets in that area being cordoned off for weeks.
Addendum: From a Russian: many Russians believe that MH17 was downed by Russia.

[Baby Steps]

Addendum: From a banker: The USA cost of Gulf war 1 was entirely invoiced to and paid for by Saudi Arabia
Addendum: From a UK Paratrooper: During the Suez crisis UK forces policing the curfew routinely rounded up and machine gunned people found on the street.
Addendum: From a Nuclear Industry contractor: Uk Nuclear is secretly and illegally storing medium level waste in old Cornish mine workings
Addendum: From UK special forces: during the 80's and beyond, a secret group known as 'Debt' was operating as an assassination squad in Northern Ireland. Due to surveillance, almost all IRA operations were known before hand and the ones that actually occurred were mostly allowed to. Many others were stopped by this death squad.
Addendum: From Police:After peace was a achieved in Northern Ireland, IRA 'mr Bigs' were given amnesty. They were allowed to launder large sums of dirty money into legitimate new businesses with no questions asked, as long as they agreed to cease operations.
Addendum: From Accountant: The UK Gov operates a front organisation containing ex SAS members called 'The Corps of Commissionaires', a security company. They control the banking system in Papua New Guinea.
Addendum: From UK tax authorities: Large Turkish heroin money laundering is known about. The business fronts are known to the authorities and left to continue.

[Baby Steps]

Addendum: from a mafiosa: Large shipments of cocaine arrive into RAF Northolt just outside London by executive jet.

[Baby Steps]

addendum: from a contractor-there is a mini construction boom starting in north eastern australia where usa military facilities are being secretly constructed. very little being reported so far

[BMJ]

addendum: from a contractor-there is a mini construction boom starting in north eastern australia where usa military facilities are being secretly constructed. very little being reported so far

Link: http://www.anti-bases.org/campaigns/NMD_PineGap/Map_of_US_Military_Bases_in_Australia.html

http://www.anti-bases.org/images/AustraliaUSAbases.gif

[Baby Steps]

Addendum: from a mafiosa: Large shipments of cocaine arrive into RAF Northolt just outside London by executive jet.

Recent UK article in the Metro (http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/31/british-brothers-arrested-50000000-worth-cocaine-found-private-jet-7274755/)

REALLY, WOULD THOSE GUYS GO TO ALL THAT TROUBLE AND EXPENSE IF THEY HAD THE SLIGHTEST FEAR THAT THE UK AUTHORITIES WOULD INTERFERE WITH THIS SHIPMENT? THIS IS A PART MILITARY INSTALLATION. I suggest it is significant that these flights may be being stopped now.


British brothers arrested after £50,000,000 worth of cocaine is found on private jet

Georgia Diebelius, Wednesday 31 Jan 2018

It is believed to be one of the largest recent seizures of its kind. Two British men were arrested this week after more than £50 million worth of cocaine was discovered on a private jet. Border Force officers found around half a tonne of the Class A drug after searching an aircraft that flew into the UK from Bogota in Colombia on Monday.

It is believed to be one of the largest recent seizures of its kind. British brothers Martin and Stephen Neil, from Poole in Dorset, were arrested at the scene on suspicion of importing Class A drugs on the twin-engined jet that landed at Farnborough Airport in Hampshire. Two Spaniards and an Italian man were also arrested. The Border Force said that the drug was hidden in 15 suitcases that were found on board. The Border Force said that the drug was hidden in 15 suitcases that were found on board. Border Force officers found around half a tonne of the Class A drug after searching an aircraft that flew into the UK from Bogota in Colombia on Monday.

Border Force Deputy Chief Operating Officer Mike Stepney said: ‘After meeting the flight and questioning those on board, officers became suspicious and searched the aircraft and their luggage. ‘When opened, each case was found to contain between 34 to 37 tape wrapped packages weighing approximately one kilo each.

‘One of these was pierced and a white powder exposed which tested positive for cocaine.’ Three properties in Bournemouth, Dorset, were also searched by the National Crime Agency (NCA) as part of the investigation, and computers and phones taken away for examination. NCA operations manager Siobhan Micklethwaite said: ‘This is a major seizure of cocaine, one of the largest flown into the UK by plane in many years, and this seizure by Border Force represents a major blow to organised crime.



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[Valerie Villars]

Baby steps, these are very important contributions. Your post about the cocaine is from 2015, almost three years before the above post. So, in your opinion, who or what is potentially stopping these flights?

[Baby Steps]

Baby steps, these are very important contributions. Your post about the cocaine is from 2015, almost three years before the above post. So, in your opinion, who or what is potentially stopping these flights?

hi,
thanks. well, one suspects that there is a CIA-mi6-mafia cabal operating, its such a good cash cow.

if that is true, and they use state bases to land here, then the normal police and customs WERE being stood down. If that is not the case any more it suggests a set back (or change of leadership) within the CIA, or, at least , some kind of internal struggle. interesting times.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

A marine who was in desert storm told me that he had a cousin stationed at Area 51 during the same time period. He reported that many of the sand features within the base on satellite are actually holograhic technology. The craft they have underground take off vertically through the holograms.

This same person told me that the US had a group of rotated marines stationed in earth’s orbit 365/24/7, and they could be anywhere in the world in 15 minutes.

[Foxie Loxie]

Interesting stuff, Joe!! :highfive:

[Baby Steps]

A marine who was in desert storm told me that he had a cousin stationed at Area 51 during the same time period. He reported that many of the sand features within the base on satellite are actually holograhic technology. The craft they have underground take off vertically through the holograms.

This same person told me that the US had a group of rotated marines stationed in earth’s orbit 365/24/7, and they could be anywhere in the world in 15 minutes.


wow, thanks! very cool

[Baby Steps]

- British units (Marines or Paratroops?) are preparing for a deployment to Djibouti. The likely reason is intervention into YEMEN
- British tanks have been seen shipping out of Pembroke Docks, likely destination Baltic States, Norway or could relate to the above...

[MorningFox]

These are stories that people you trust have told you... or what?

[Baby Steps]

These are stories that people you trust have told you... or what?

Hi,
yes- I trust the people who tell me, but categorise the information as 'rumours' because they are mostly not first hand. The Pembroke Docks one is first hand, however...

[Valerie Villars]

For Heaven's sake, baby steps, when I look at the information above (which I believe is true in its' generalities at the very least and true in its' details for the most part) it is almost laughable these people are involved in such escapades considering the enormity of life's creation. However, attending to the smallest details of the horror of the situation has just got to impact the whole and thus we find ourselves here on this prison planet, busting the system wide open by exposing it.

Thanks so much for these posts. And thanks to you too Joe.

[petra]

These are stories that people you trust have told you... or what?

Hi,
yes- I trust the people who tell me, but categorise the information as 'rumours' because they are mostly not first hand.

I think that's perfect. It's interesting finding patterns in rumours, but I think the thing we need to keep in mind too is that even people who we trust could be fooled from time to time. We always have to judge for ourselves. A good example for me was with crop circles. Lots of rumours there, and the pattern is huge. The idea that all those people are being deceptive just seems foolish to me.

I don't have any military anecdotes but I did date a guy in the military for a short while.

He was very secretive about his job, which is understandable. He gave me a book, N Space by Larry Niven (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Space_(short_story_collection)) but I never read all of it yet - it's a good book and some weird stuff about aliens in it that really made me think (I started at the back of the book).

A few months after we met he got sent to the North Pole and I remember thinking "the universe must not want me to date anyone" (ha ha). NOW I am even MORE suspicious and I wonder what in the heck is up at that North Pole that's so interesting :P

[Baby Steps]

For Heaven's sake, baby steps, when I look at the information above (which I believe is true in its' generalities at the very least and true in its' details for the most part) it is almost laughable these people are involved in such escapades considering the enormity of life's creation. However, attending to the smallest details of the horror of the situation has just got to impact the whole and thus we find ourselves here on this prison planet, busting the system wide open by exposing it.

Thanks so much for these posts. And thanks to you too Joe.

Thanks - they are rumours given by diverse people , often over a beer.
If one turns out to be true, it has no bearing on the others, and I would love to hear ' This is nonsense because x or y' -

I can just say categorically that they are tit bits I received over the years so definitely they are not a concerted disinformation campaign...

[Baby Steps]

These are stories that people you trust have told you... or what?

Hi,
yes- I trust the people who tell me, but categorise the information as 'rumours' because they are mostly not first hand.

I think that's perfect. It's interesting finding patterns in rumours, but I think the thing we need to keep in mind too is that even people who we trust could be fooled from time to time. We always have to judge for ourselves. A good example for me was with crop circles. Lots of rumours there, and the pattern is huge. The idea that all those people are being deceptive just seems foolish to me.

I don't have any military anecdotes but I did date a guy in the military for a short while.

He was very secretive about his job, which is understandable. He gave me a book, N Space by Larry Niven (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Space_(short_story_collection)) but I never read all of it yet - it's a good book and some weird stuff about aliens in it that really made me think (I started at the back of the book).

A few months after we met he got sent to the North Pole and I remember thinking "the universe must not want me to date anyone" (ha ha). NOW I am even MORE suspicious and I wonder what in the heck is up at that North Pole that's so interesting :P

Hi,
a wonderful anecdote there!
I notice that the book you mention is a collection of short stories - did your BF mention any one in particular?

[petra]

Hi,
a wonderful anecdote there!
I notice that the book you mention is a collection of short stories - did your BF mention any one in particular?

It kind of is an anecdote isn't it, technically not a rumour - to me - because I was there (ha ha)

The short stories are anecdotes too... just not really military... :)

He didn't mention any particular story, but we did chat about Niven's Laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niven%27s_laws). One of Niven's Laws says "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." and that really stood out too :)

The N Space book stands out because it's the only book he gave me, and I did not ask for it.

[shaberon]

There are a lot of these, some of less than global significance, but it's what goes on.

Paratrooper trainees are sometimes decapitated by the parachute cords. This goes unmentioned. A lot of deaths are unreported or assigned to false reasons, sometimes things like "Six killed in helicopter crash" when they were actually hosed in the mideast.

There are a lot of live training exercises that take place in civilian areas. In one such example, un-uniformed military gunned down a local Sheriff who had stopped them as civilians--it got out of hand since their mission was to not stop for anything.

[Baby Steps]

Addendum: From a spy: Mussolini was an MI5 asset
Addendum: From a soldier: Gulf War syndrome was caused by the highly experimental anti-nerve agent jabs that the troops were given. British bases, protected by gas detectors DID detect chemical attacks from Saddam's forces, but generally these were weak and ineffective.

[Ewan]

1995-ish. Guy I was with on a training course (computer related), had just left the miltary after his full term of over 20 years (rank Colour Sergeant). Was stationed in Cambodia for two years helping train Khmer Rouge troops, this was after Pol Pot.
Confirmation, if any were needed, that the British Army can have strange bedfellows at the behest of the, one assumes, Foreign Affairs (https://www.gov.uk/government/topics/foreign-affairs) Dept.

Not particularly earth-shattering but I had no reason to doubt the guy. There was another military guy, a similarly ranked Marine, on the course that was an obvious BS merchant, probably a clerk in the marines rather than what he was bragging about. The comparison of the two was like chalk and cheese.

[Baby Steps]

1995-ish. Guy I was with on a training course (computer related), had just left the miltary after his full term of over 20 years (rank Colour Sergeant). Was stationed in Cambodia for two years helping train Khmer Rouge troops, this was after Pol Pot.
Confirmation, if any were needed, that the British Army can have strange bedfellows at the behest of the, one assumes, Foreign Affairs (https://www.gov.uk/government/topics/foreign-affairs) Dept.

Not particularly earth-shattering but I had no reason to doubt the guy. There was another military guy, a similarly ranked Marine, on the course that was an obvious BS merchant, probably a clerk in the marines rather than what he was bragging about. The comparison of the two was like chalk and cheese.

Thanks- funny how often things are totally different from how they are assumed to be!

[Flash]

These are stories that people you trust have told you... or what?

Hi,
yes- I trust the people who tell me, but categorise the information as 'rumours' because they are mostly not first hand.

I think that's perfect. It's interesting finding patterns in rumours, but I think the thing we need to keep in mind too is that even people who we trust could be fooled from time to time. We always have to judge for ourselves. A good example for me was with crop circles. Lots of rumours there, and the pattern is huge. The idea that all those people are being deceptive just seems foolish to me.

I don't have any military anecdotes but I did date a guy in the military for a short while.

He was very secretive about his job, which is understandable. He gave me a book, N Space by Larry Niven (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Space_(short_story_collection)) but I never read all of it yet - it's a good book and some weird stuff about aliens in it that really made me think (I started at the back of the book).

A few months after we met he got sent to the North Pole and I remember thinking "the universe must not want me to date anyone" (ha ha). NOW I am even MORE suspicious and I wonder what in the heck is up at that North Pole that's so interesting :P

The Canadians and of course, on the other side of the sea, the Russians are at the North Pole - the Russians.

[Orph]

The Canadians and of course, on the other side of the sea, the Russians are at the North Pole - the Russians.Well, geeeeee whiz. Thank you for busting my dream that Santa Clause was at the north pole!
:Cry:

[Flash]

The Canadians and of course, on the other side of the sea, the Russians are at the North Pole - the Russians.Well, geeeeee whiz. Thank you for busting my dream that Santa Clause was at the north pole!
:Cry:

lolllllll

Small funny story about this: when my daughter was 8, she started to doubt Santa Claus existence but I could see that she was not sure and mostly not wanting to truly know yet (exercising her head in the sand abilities). So she asked me "does Santa Claus truly comes to our house mommy?" to which I answered "no he does not, because he does not truly exist. We tell he exist to please the children".

She started crying an crying - I was feeling sooooo guilty - to finally stop and tell me "I knew he did not exist, but (sobbing) I cannot believe you ever lied to me - paraphrasing here she said it in French.

Gosh, I felt 100 times more guilty, so bad to have deceived my daughter. We now laugh at it.

So, reaaaally sorry to disappoint you Orph!!

Another cute one is when she asked me from which princess kingdom she was. I had to tell her she could not ever be a 3D flesh and blood princess because her parents were not royalties, princesshood being a blood relative thing. But she could be a princess of the hearts.

It did not make it. She was crying, for days, sad and angry that she could not be a real princess. lollll

therefore, to appease your hurt, Orph, we are making you prince of avalon's hearts. Does it make it?? lol

[conk]

Addendum: From a spy: Mussolini was an MI5 asset
Addendum: From a soldier: Gulf War syndrome was caused by the highly experimental anti-nerve agent jabs that the troops were given. British bases, protected by gas detectors DID detect chemical attacks from Saddam's forces, but generally these were weak and ineffective.there is a very credible theory that Gulf War Syndrome is Aspartame poisoning. Thousands of pallets of diet drinks sat in the blazing Sun for weeks on end. Aspartame turns to formaldehyde when heated. Aspartame is already a neuro-toxin and cancer agent even before being heated. Coupled with anthrax and multiple other vaccines, God only knows what kind of ailment GWS is.

[Baby Steps]

Story from Pakistan Army (on the Kashmir 'line of control')

Once per week the Indian Army opposite receive their alcohol rations - this they drink immediately. After that they generally let loose at the Pakistani lines with whatever weapons they have to hand.

The Pakistani troops are told to stay in their bunkers and not to respond. As a way of enforcing this rule - to strictly stay under cover - the men are told that if they receive a wound to the lower half of their body they will be discharged and lose their pension.