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Mark

22nd November 2014, 02:39

I published this article originally on November 17, 2013, just over a year ago. I have updated it for publishing here at PA. I've generally observed the bile and visceral hatred with which Obama is viewed passively, sharing little commentary except on the issue on his potential assassination. And so I have decided to share this piece here, to give an overall view that has not been seen on this forum and perhaps, nowhere else on-line or in the print media.

These are my thoughts, I take full responsibility for them. I will engage any and all in any respectful discussion on any of the issues raised herein and, as you will see, there are quite a few of them. Take this article in the spirit in which it is offered, as an alternative view to the alternative view. A studied perspective based upon years of research and analysis.

The Obama Phenomenon: Alternative knowledge, elite machinations and the fulcrum of destiny (http://rahkyt.com/2013/11/17/the-obama-phenomenon-alternative-knowledge-elite-machinations-and-the-fulcrum-of-destiny/)

There are greater energies at play currently than those we generally pay attention to. The culmination of many thousands of years of human history is here. The phenomenon of Barack Hussein Obama cannot be taken out of the context of the history of Western Civilization, the American Experiment and the continual coalescence of global society. It is also important to add the lesser known aspects of the control matrix to the equation. The mind control initiatives, the economic restructuring of the West and the world consolidating the hegemony of a Western-based global elite to the detriment of the rest of the planet. The question of the gold, the technological repression of Nazi International, their known adherence to mystical streams of power-mongering, and the continuing world changes. The potentially continuous presence and influence of extraterrestrial interests. All of this is reaching a peak now.

That Barack Hussein Obama is president now is not an accident, accordingly. That there are no accidents at all has to be taken into account as well. Every choice that the power elite make to support and to train individuals to take the reins of power is made very deliberately with all eventualities taken into account. The question that has been asked continuously is, why? Why would the Powers-That-Be (PTB) choose an asset that could so easily be taken down? Why does it seem as if they are putting themselves out there – with the continuing “whisper-campaigns” fomenting tales of his homosexuality, drug usage and questionable past – perhaps risking global exposure of their existence and mind-boggling manipulations? What is the real purpose of Barry Sotero’s presence in the White House at this critical juncture in time?

In response to these questions, some people make mention of a “race card”, although I am not certain how they are using it in this context, as if it is possible for culturally and societally-marginalized people to wield power within a system that is fundamentally designed to prevent them from doing so. The only way the “race card” can be wielded is in support of white hegemony and continued dominance and if its use is referring to the strong potentiality that a white backlash is expected against Obama and blacks and other minorities in general, it makes more sense. And, even this kind of mass manipulation is supported by the system. In fact, the system was and is designed to respond this way, as people react, en mass, to nigh subliminal suggestions that awaken often un-recognized evocations of prejudice that they then generalize in application, which then results in collective repression of the offending segment of society to the detriment of the entire society.

I do not negate this idea. In fact, it may indeed be a contingency. But, if it is a contingency, it is one that is secondary to the primary thrust of the reasoning that brought Obama to the office of POTUS. That reason has to do with the energetic shifts and the necessity of that energy being balanced. Some might call it karma, some might call it reaping the whirlwind, some might call it an expression of Newton’s Third Law of Motion or even some form of expression of quantum-based genetic entanglement. Whatever you call it, it is all in reference to the fact that a reckoning is here and the global elite know it. Since the primary sin of this primarily Western global elite (with their pawns and poodles ensconced in capitals of commerce around the world) has been the dehumanization of large segments of the planets population, this ongoing trauma requires resolution. Planetary resolution. Balance. The increasing insistence of the East and South upon equity is the rising tide which the Elite must deal with and have been fearing for many decades and centuries.

The end of formal slavery in the Americas following the Haitian revolution in the late 1700s and early 1800s, the rebellions in N. America throughout the early and mid-1800s culminating in the Civil War. The immediate repression then represented by the black codes, the formalization of the Federal Prison System and what we now term the Prison Industrial Complex, the onset of Jim Crow and Segregation, all led up to the freedom movements around the world in the 1950s and 60s, resulting in global Decolonization and the Civil Rights movement. This context then led to further co-optation by way of repressive educational and economic means, white flight to the suburbs, the movement of jobs away from black populations, the infusion of drugs and weapons into the urban system, the increase in police dominance in these areas and even further race-based profiling.

The continual focus upon racial issues, the continual insistence, even upon modern generations, to uphold the tenets of exclusion and preference – utilizing age-old tropes based upon long-disproven stereotypes that have found new life with more formulaic and yet still atavistic recollections of what must now be understood as racially collective memories – expresses itself across generations. Its origins and continuance stem from the programmatic efforts of generations of European elite for the specific end of creating the mass social and psychological conditions we are now experiencing. They expect the support of a certain segment of society against what they see as a flood of diversity, come to challenge the dominance of white supremacy, and – as they have programmed so many to believe across the entire color spectrum – all white people in general.

In this greater context, Barack Hussein Obama can be seen as an offering. From their perspective, a controlled one, one that they can pull back and destroy at their convenience if things in any way go beyond the eventualities that they can and have planned for. He is an acknowledgement that every single one of the racist standards about intelligence, sexuality and demeanor is wrong. Even if his mixed heritage is invoked, the stereotypes still come crashing down as the gradual realization of what most know intuitively, that people are people, becomes more and more a direct expression of popular culture and the general understanding of human nature as consistent across all ethnic types.

So who is this man, Barack Hussein Obama? That question can be answered in a multitude of ways. One of which is to look at where he has come from. As a child of mixed heritage, it has been determined that, on the female side of his family, his lineage is directly tied to that of some other luminaries of American political life. Most markedly, Richard Cheney and George W. Bush. 8th cousins to the former, 11th cousins to the latter. His ancestry on this side of the family include a Great-Grandfather, William the Conqueror and his descendants, Henry the 1st and 2nd, as well as Mathilda, Empress of England. His paternal side is more difficult to trace precisely, as the information coming from Kenya is not forthcoming. And yet, the tales arising from former childhood classmates of Obama, stating derisively that he claimed royal blood, can now be seen in a new light, given these genealogical revelations of recent years.

Given the questions in regards to his parentage on the paternal side, perhaps it might be easier to speak in a general way on who he must be. I will proceed by examining the overall breakdown of his genetic structure as standardized by recent genealogical testing results and what is currently known about the potential population to which he belongs, either African or Black American. According to an article disseminated by the genetic testing company DNATribes, entitled Modern Mixed Populations in the Context of World Genetic Structure (SNP), the following conclusions can be made based upon a general analysis of Black American DNA when compared to ancient populations around the world.

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Figure 2: MDS plot of randomly sampled African-Americans and individuals from
African and West Eurasian regions. Native regions that are most similar to modern
African-Americans are circled in red.

While this comparison of the Black American genetic structure to that of an ancient Egyptian population may seem spurious at the moment, its meaning will become clear as we proceed upon the course this discussion has revealed. The following image from a related DNATribes article, Last of the Amarna Pharaohs: King Tut and His Relatives, focuses the issue even further:

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Table 1: Top MLI (Match Likelihood Index) scores for Amarna mummies based on the world
regions identified by DNA Tribes® STR analysis. Each MLI score identifies the likelihood of
occurrence of an STR profile in that region versus the likelihood of occurrence in the world as a
whole.

Given the contextualization of Power Elite machinations, my focus upon these two aspects of Barack Hussein Obama’s lineage should be clear. For those not privy to the more far-flung regions of conspiratorial theorization, the idea has been put forth that Obama is, in some way, a genetic manipulation or cloning of an ancient Egyptian Pharaoh, Akhenaten. While this assertion may seem outlandish and unbelievable, there are some aspects to this contention that are well in line with what are known esoteric understandings and alignments of the global elite factions that have controlled the world for centuries if not millennia, and who may have been responsible for the crowning of the "boy" king and his current enthronement upon the seat of world power.

The Akhenaten Dynasty’s roots were African and, therefore, Black-oriented, despite the mainstream media and many, many, many others insistence upon the Pharaonic Dynasties being European-oriented and Caucasian in nature. The evidence for that becomes more and more flimsy and evident of wishful thinking and willful ignorance by the year. Whether Obama’s father was Malcolm X, the Kenyan or the Black American philanderer, part of his roots do go back to Africa, the same as the Pharaohs in question. And so an understanding of who his people are, where they come from – and, in support of the more general point and also indicative of where we currently are, why the world is the way it is, and what ancient dramas are playing out now – it is important to don the mantle of resonant awareness by intuiting the thought and reasoning processes of Illuminati generations that have been steeped in the lore and knowledge of ancient wisdom traditions, potentially since time immemorial. How they think, how they plan, what they consider to be real and not, is of the most paramount importance in these considerations.

My conclusions, based upon this evidence and intuiting the long-ranging plans and machinations of the elite factions, as well as being able to intuit and energetically “read” current world events and situations based upon my own research and knowledge, are that the Illuminati forces are attempting to “hijack” destiny, to use Obama and his genetic potential in order to forestall their own reckoning. Given the state of the world today, White Supremacy as a global system of command and control is done. Over. Finito. That is as it should be, as these days, the world is rising against it in a tide that cannot be overcome by any but psychopathic, genocidal means.

If they cannot continue to control the planet under the guise of White Supremacy, they intend to destroy it. Make it uninhabitable by those who would continue to coexist here in a new way of being and interaction with the planet. In the context of Obama, his genetic structure does mirror those of ancient Egypt, while those of Black Americans in general do as well, being extraordinarily similar to that ancient peoples by way of West, Central and Southern Africans in the days of the Pharaonic Dynasties. DNATribes has other articles that support this. The key aspect of this, is that Obama also has ties to these same controller factions, as evidenced by the genealogical research that has been shown to tie him to the royal families of Europe, as he has been found to be related to Cheney and also Dubya going back some generations.

And so they believe that this insertion of their DNA into the African-based genetic lineage of a large proportion of the human family now imbues upon them the ability to control him and, through him, that selfsame population. And, so far, they have been right, to a large extent. By so doing, they also seek to control the outcome of this ponderous rise of the “3rd World”, and their past, present and near-future efforts are geared toward the preservation of their power base and the continuance of their consolidation of their own economic and political hegemony through military, cultural and political means, thereby insulating themselves both physically and socially from the inevitable crash of the world system and the quite possibly inevitable institution of newer, and more equitable ways of governance and living.

Many individuals are very well aware of the ideas and knowledge systems that form the foundation of my current analysis. The fascination of the Elite with and understanding of genetics, their seemingly fanatical insistence upon keeping their bloodlines pure. And despite the common and biased belief that mixed blood leads to impurity, their deeper understanding of bloodlines and how their mixture can lead to the actual, physical reincarnation of specific genetic families, shows the depth of their understanding of how these ancient passion plays can best be reenacted in the modern world.

We are also well aware of the origins of these bloodlines, and their ties to these ancient kingdoms of Mesopotamia and, also, Egypt. The revelation that these Dynasties and bloodlines were, indeed, of African origins is actually quite revolutionary and will cause some to squirm in discomfort at the very thought as well as the inevitable conclusion that these self-same issues that were so dominant so long ago have continued to be of importance to this very day. That the controller factions realize this and have always known it places the continuing subjugation of Africans in general and Black Americans in particular in a new light. It reveals the baseline resonance of their fear and explains why so much time and effort has been spent in assaying the continuance of structural mechanisms designed to foment the absolute control of those who seem to be at the very bottom of the world hierarchy of racial lineage.

That Obama has been placed in the position he is in, presents what seems to be nigh undeniable proof of their recognition of this.

Now, to travel a bit further down the rabbit hole. Concurrent to the themes of economic, political and cultural domination, it is necessary to examine another, even more fantastic aspect of the current stream of alternative thought in regards to the phenomenon of the Obama rise to power. It becomes necessary to engage the higher dimensional and spiritual aspects of our illusory, holographic reality and to synthesize this information in the search for a new and deeper understanding of how the controller factions believe the world order to be currently delineated. It is necessary to delve into those extraterrestrial realms of potentiality, since the information is “out there”.

To go beyond the mundane understanding of even genetics and sociological evolution, the potential Star Ancestry of the many disparate ethnic components of the world population – having been manipulated so extensively in the distant past and prehistory of the human race – has resulted in a potpourri of distinct ethnic populations, which we call racial, even though there is only one human race, and many ethnicities of varying colorations. Neanderthal, Devonian, the unknown Neanderthal “cousin” that existed only in Africa and whose DNA imprint is present only in those from certain sectors of West and Central Africa – as well as the other, and perhaps still unheralded early human predecessors that predate Homo Sapiens and Homo Sapiens Sapiens – attest to the fact that our perceived differences are the result of a continuous and ongoing coalescence of the genetic lines of distinct precursors to modern humanity. These lines may indeed have originated in other spaces and places, but have now found themselves here on Terra in order to continue this “grand experiment” of a universal nature, resulting in a unique and extraordinary evolution of a universal and inter-related human family that is quite probably not repeatable anywhere else in this galaxy.

To incorporate the wisdom traditions of the Ages within my analysis, it is imperative to point out at this juncture that it is ancient African – as well as other world ethnic groupings – wisdom that the Incarnative process is continuous amongst soul groups. Meaning, that recycled souls that enter the bodies of certain genetic lines continue to do so over and over again, across many millennia. The span of time and space is no barrier to the choices made at the higher level of interdimensional manifestation beyond the bubble of time and space limiting human understanding and easy recognition. As a result, souls who enter these genetic lines and inhabit the bodies of, as an example, today’s European Elite, continue to do so as it is the propensity of those bloodlines to rarify due to their insistence upon racial purity, despite the fact that there truly is no such reality. To draw the inevitable correlation, and to emphasize the nature of Elite machination and thought process, it becomes clear that, in their understanding, Barack Hussein Obama possesses a certain DNA bloodline that links him to the ancient Egyptians, but also to more modern European royal lineages, which is, for them, the perfect opportunity to co-opt their inevitable demise by creating an avataric “Manchurian Candidate” that spans the genetic potentiality of a large segment of the world population and that allows them to control the destinies of the world through him as the nominal figurehead/priest king, while they control his puppet-strings behind the scenes.

It should be clear by this point that certain factions of the Elite think primarily in terms of energy propagation and manipulation. In terms of global populations and in terms of time, spanning, again, millennia. Because of that, the Obama phenomenon cannot be interpreted outside of the longer, and larger, context. Implicit in this understanding is the realization that they really believe that we have reached some sort of culminative point in history, and that Obama is a lynchpin figure in the continuance of their domination of the world. It is difficult to imagine, at this point, what current figure in American politics can succeed Obama and don the mantle of the Presidency next, or even if the world-wide system of governance we currently enjoy will continue to past the current time-frame. This particular span of moments in time seems to be an apex point of some sort, a time when all of these long-term plans are coming to resolution and realization, where extraterrestrial, terrestrial and higher-D plans are focused and set upon shifting the balance of world power in one direction or another. Much of what will happen in the coming decades is being created by what seem to be petty political machinations currently in progress. The United States, as the crucible of elite power and the instrument of hegemonic dominance is the focus of these efforts, and what is happening Here and Now is key to determining how things will play out in the near and distant future.

Current political issues are not as “black and white” as many might have it be. The perceived lame-duck status of the President at this point in time is accompanied by a distancing of both ends of the political spectrum, conservative and progressive, from his policies and from Obama as a man. The disappointment of many as Obama has failed to live up to the expectations of his constituents has been crushing. The belief by those of African and mixed descent that he has been too cautious in his assays against the PTB have been tempered by the stark realization that doing so would most certainly have resulted in his premature exit from life. Still, the accomplishments that he has been able to solidify have made him one of the most effective men to hold the office of POTUS in generations.

From the perspective of African-descended folk, he has played the game he was paid to play. The insistence of those who critique his behavior based upon purely political concerns, ignoring the implicit racial aspect of his ascent come generally from those who are unable to commiserate with the plight of minority status. His actions are interpreted minus an entire gamut of stimuli that have been well-documented and explored over many decades and even centuries of interracial interaction within the evolutionary context of Western imperialism, colonization and globalization. As the culmination of these centuries, Barack Hussein Obama is the quintessential American, possessing the genetic potential of continents. Obama’s DNA is indeed diverse, and that control the PTB may think they have through genetic imprinting and programming may be creating a psychological, genetic and spiritual conflict within him that they cannot control. And they understand this. Genetics are a limited means of control, as they can be overridden by will-power and intention, as also is well-known and documented.

So where does this leave us, as a global population, observing in disbelief and dismay as seemingly incomprehensible and and random events occur around us? The information presented in this essay is outrageous. It is beyond the limitations of normative mainstream acceptance. And yet, it includes data points that have been corroborated over a period of many decades and centuries and that also explore implicit conditions and understandings that are supported by the stated belief systems and observed cultural paradigmatic memes of a substantial proportion of the controlling Elite population. A more expansive understanding of these issues is much, much more synthetically inclusive of other realms of reality. But this manner of processing information is also much more demanding and world-view shattering than most people are comfortable attempting. The resultant cognitive dissonance is infinitely out of alignment with normative patterns of control and command and, therefore, collective belief systems.

They placed Obama in power because they had to. Because the cards, the stars, the Multiverse, told them they had to. They did it to attempt to alleviate the balancing of energies, to make amends, like so many corporations and institutions have done in recent years, for what has been a gross violation of human sovereignty and profiteering on a time-frame and scale that has never been seen in this Age before. But this perceptive penitence is not real, is illusory as there is no capacity for such compassion, truly, on the part of those who believe they rule the world. It is a purely practical attempt, on their part, to forestall their own inevitable reckoning.

It is difficult to judge great destinies in the Times in which they are being lived. There are so many examples of this across the span of history. The impact that individuals – even under the force of compulsion from other interests – have upon our collective fate and destiny. How President Barack Hussein Obama is seen by many people is not necessarily indicative of what is truly occurring. The aging process that Presidents experience, which ages them beyond their years while in the White House, is reflective of the psychic strain of higher dimensional impulses that must be immensely draining to the life-force.

The darkest manipulations of the controller factions cannot come to fruition. Issues of sacrifice, of assassination, of world-wide censure and the destruction of the Obama phenomenon is part and parcel of the potential employment of this hoard of data-points and gossip and conspiracy and scandal that is swirling around in the backwaters of the collective world consciousness in regards to who and what this man truly is. In the effort to control him and his words and actions, every possible outcome must have been explored. From a successful and august presidency to censure and disgrace and, even, death by lone gunman. The very idea of Barack Hussein Obama going “off the reservation” and raising an army of the conscious against the machinations of the Elite factions must be giving his nominal controllers conniption fits, and may in fact be causing them to lean toward pushing the “self-destruct” button at some point, which may indeed be why all of the information in regards to Obama’s questionable bonafides moves with ever-increasing rapidity toward mainstream public consumption.

But, the controllers are also are increasingly realizing, to their dismay, that pushing that button may set off events that they have no way of controlling in any way, shape, form or fashion except through the most draconian of their alternative plans. Awakening the emotional and material potential of Africa and African-descended peoples and those who ally themselves with them against the Controller Factions, to list only one of many possibilities, remains a strategy of very last resort, especially if they can regain control through other means. But I also think that their desperation is peaking, which may mean that it is once again on the table, if reports of assassination attempts foiled are credible. Engaging the karma of centuries and millennia from the limited and circumscribed perspective of even organizations with archives and genetic memories spanning a similar time-frame is a formidable task, one rife with the possibility of failure, especially when orientation and intent is not in alignment with the Light.

An Obama, out of the White House, yet still alive, must be their most terrible nightmare. If he is not President, alive and no longer beholden to their control mechanisms, his proven ability to marshall the energetic bulwark of a large proportion of the world population is an eventuality that they cannot countenance. Barack Hussein Obama is not a stupid man. Little credence should be given to the insistence that he is lost without his prompter and other efforts at minimizing his agency. Perhaps, rather, the script those prompters reinforce conflict so much with what he really wants to say, that he has been left fumbling and stumbling whenever there was a malfunction. This discomfort was most apparent in earlier years of his presidency, rather than currently. Then, he was unsure of himself. He may still be to an extent, but it appears that he has come to some sort of epiphany and is moving, deliberately, toward that end, whatever it may be. And, whatever scandal they may have in place to effect his removal from office, cannot be something that is not already in play and that many in the alternative community, are not already aware of. Otherwise, why the extensive setup? These tales, floating around for so long now, firmly established and existing just outside of the purview of the mainstream?

This is not a popular opinion, or even a consideration, among many. Even in the Alternative Community. I have never observed this particular collection of ideas discussed together in any venue. Before the possibility of a martial removal of President Obama from the office of POTUS could come to fruition, many other plans would have to be firmly entrenched, corroborated in their efficacy and success, which is not currently the case. The controller factions are now desperate, for so many of their recent plans have fallen through the floorboards that they are unsure of the infallibility of their overall strategy. The extremity of their fear has led them to disassociate with the modern middle-middle and lower classes and more questionable ethnicities - according to their own meticulous racialized categorizations - within the artificially formulated “white race”, which has unemployed and marginalized many who, decades ago, would have enjoyed a higher standard of living and the comfort of at least a nominal superiority, which is part and parcel of all pyramidal systems of control going back multiple Ages. They have gathered power and wealth in the attempt to insulate themselves against that which has now arrived. The reckoning.

It is a direct expression of the fundamental teachings of all mystical systems, that nothing comes without cost. That you can game the system but you must eventually pay it out. That underlying matrix of spiritual knowledge that the Elite have been involved in for many centuries has allowed them to consolidate power against the inevitable global backlash, and they have done what they could and what they have done is impressive, if analyzed objectively. Their recognition of the importance of genetic lineage and their tacit admission by action of the multidimensional importance of current generations of Black Americans, as represented by the ascendency of Barack Hussein Obama to the Presidency, is testament to the validity of many of the potentialities offered within this screed.

They recognize that positive, oppositional energies have gained force and momentum in recent years – since the winter solstice of 2012 – and that their victory is not assured. The previously assured stance they have insistently projected has been shattered by ongoing events including the coalescence of the BRICS, the rise of China, the continuing unfolding of Russian dominance, the vacillation of Germany, ad infinitum. Troubling events, from the perspective of the Controller Factions, are popping up all over the world. And so the prospect of actually going through with their final trump card, eliminating Obama, would result in the release of so much energy, so many permutations and inflections of destiny and intention, that unpredictable factors must come into play and they cannot be at all certain that it would pan out according to their plans.

And that, is good news for the entire world. A part of the perceptive “immune response” of Gaia herself – and higher-D forces – manifest through the collective consciousness of all of good conscience who desire a world of justice, peace and equity, in action.

jake gittes

22nd November 2014, 03:44

Very interesting and well-written essay. Thank you.

The continual focus upon racial issues, the continual insistence, even upon modern generations, to uphold the tenets of exclusion and preference – utilizing age-old tropes based upon long-disproven stereotypes that have found new life with more formulaic and yet still atavistic recollections of what must now be understood as racially collective memories – expresses itself across generations. Its origins and continuance stem from the programmatic efforts of generations of European elite for the specific end of creating the mass social and psychological conditions we are now experiencing. They expect the support of a certain segment of society against what they see as a flood of diversity, come to challenge the dominance of white supremacy, and – as they have programmed so many to believe across the entire color spectrum – all white people in general.

TPTB have been very heavy-handed in playing the race card, pushing in our faces Trayvon Martin, Ferguson, Obama, Ebola, interracial couplings, i.e., 'Oh no, they're coming after our white women!', etc., to purposely worsen and set back racial relations to the point of violence, perhaps to bring in martial law. "White Supremacy" and "Militant Blacks" are creations or by-products of this manipulated divide-and-conquer strategy by the Jesuit-Judaic string-pullers who are always trying to push two population segments they loath and fear into destroying each other. Discriminated-against blacks and marginalized whites buttons are being pushed, played like a prodigy performing a classic score. The well-publicized "breaches" in White House security and Bibi Satanyahoo's "grassy knoll" sneer comes off as threats or predictive programming as how they intend to ignite their sinister, purposely-manufactured and over-hyped powder keg.

They placed Obama in power because they had to. Because the cards, the stars, the Multiverse, told them they had to. They did it to attempt to alleviate the balancing of energies, to make amends, like so many corporations and institutions have done in recent years, for what has been a gross violation of human sovereignty and profiteering on a time-frame and scale that has never been seen in this Age before. But this perceptive penitence is not real, is illusory as there is no capacity for such compassion, truly, on the part of those who believe they rule the world. It is a purely practical attempt, on their part, to forestall their own inevitable reckoning.

I agree. I believe it was also knowing that NO Republican was going to win after 8 years of the Dense Dolt, knowing it's best to punt on 4th-and-27 at your own 3-yard line, and to toss voters a bone to let them think they actually do have power in the controlled game by electing a person of color. They made it a lock by rigging the "competition" with the Washington Generals of politics, a war-mongering, nut-job traitor - the textbook Manchurian Candidate - paired with the dimwitted MILF.

The previously assured stance they have insistently projected has been shattered by ongoing events including the coalescence of the BRICS, the rise of China, the continuing unfolding of Russian dominance, the vacillation of Germany,

Perhaps, or is this TPTB's "good cop" to the outgoing power structure "bad cop." They always play this chess game several moves ahead.

aranuk

22nd November 2014, 03:52

Franny

22nd November 2014, 04:38

Rahkyt, nicely deconstructed and well written analysis of Obama and our present situation.

I was aware of some of it, but I think you touched on all relevant points. You shine!

gripreaper

22nd November 2014, 05:08

They recognize that positive, oppositional energies have gained force and momentum in recent years – since the winter solstice of 2012 – and that their victory is not assured. The previously assured stance they have insistently projected has been shattered by ongoing events....

Very well researched and very well written Rahkyt. I would only like to add a few points.

With the advent of cray supercomputers and the "promis" software, it is possible to run all scenario's and all contingencies and all the variables and actually engineer the outcomes based on the highest probabilities within a percentage of tolerable outliers which can be managed. I don't think these elite are on the ropes, or that they don't know exactly what they are doing and exactly how to fulfill their agenda.

Consider the ability to gather all data digitally into massive storage facilities, and to then collate this information and run it through their promis software and distill it down to the highest probabilities and then microwave entrain consciousness to go exactly where they want.

I know this essay is about Obama, and I agree with you in regards to the genome and how important bloodline is to these elite, and how they created Obama as the ultimate Manchurian. I would agree they used the purest Akhenaten genes they could find, yet I can't help thinking that there is still an aspect of their original DNA that is missing.

I know they are mostly RH- blood, but they are looking for something, I can feel it. As they attempt to recreate the original pure bloodline before they bastardized it and inter bred with the earth humans, they had an element which I'm fully convinced is missing, and that is why they mapped the entire genome, and have kept blood databases since the early fifties, to try and find it and to re-infuse it into their bloodline.

Obama is a beta test of what they had at the time.

I would also point out that this missing aspect is most likely carried by the 15% divergents who did not have their upper brain centers cauterized and severed, those of the first chimeric creation. These individuals still have full left/right brain function, full energetic capacity to run energy up the djed and to stimulate the pineal gland and activate the cerebrum and cerebellum. They are the carriers. They are also the outlier.

While these elite mess with the genome and work at making their new humans 2.0, who would be dumbed down even further, and even more docile and subservient, they are also working on the ultimate fully activated genetics for themselves.

I don't think they have found it yet.

soulsinger

22nd November 2014, 12:16

Rahkyt, I deeply appreciate your well-articulated thoughts. Excellent article. It helps to have a context against which we can view the irrationally, disproportionately hostile reactions we've seen in the U.S. to the changing landscape of power/privilege.

I wonder if you have seen this wonderful article about "reactionary rage," using a comparison of "GamerGate" to the "Disco Demolition" event. I think these extreme rage reactions (including the recent flaring of shocking gun violence) are very telling. They point to the underlying fear associated with generations of conditioning.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/16/of-gamers-gates-and-disco-demolition-the-roots-of-reactionary-rage.html

Of Gamers, Gates, and Disco Demolition: The Roots of Reactionary Rage
article by Arthur Chu

How are YouTube videos criticizing sexist video games important enough to threaten a school shooting? Read the #GamerGate tag and realize that underneath the anger is fear.

naste.de.lumina

22nd November 2014, 14:04

Very nice Rahkyt. Thank you.

This information about President Obama being a type of genetic clone of Ancient Egyptian King akhenaton is not new to me. Its historical conceptual structuring factual about this possibility helps me put some of the pieces in their proper places in the existing logic of the bigger picture that fills my consciousness.

Backed by the endless possibilities of quantum realities, if that is the case, something inside me whispers 'revenge'.

Akhenaten is not known for its 'good' relations with 'priests' who controlled / possessed the systems of collecting material, dimensional and information energy. His break with this dominant priestly caste is documented and represented by the change in the Egyptian capital to Amarna (always suspicious of this source) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna), and its subsequent destruction.

The strong evidence that there were deep frictions in this historical period and perhaps the dark cabal perspective, also there is a reckoning with the past. Perhaps the fulfillment of a promise of revenge that occurred millennia ago.

Hugs.

Naste.

gripreaper

22nd November 2014, 15:53

Akhenaten is not known for its 'good' relations with 'priests' who controlled / possessed the systems of collecting material, dimensional and information energy. His break with this dominant priestly caste is documented and represented by the change in the Egyptian capital to Amarna (always suspicious of this source) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna), and its subsequent destruction.

Naste.

Hello Naste. The reign of Akhenaten and the history of Egypt at the time, are pivotal to the shift of the ages which occurred back then, just as we are experiencing a similar shift now. The move from gnosticism to monotheism, the exodus story in the bible, the Moses story, and the establishment of Zionist Israel. The whole patriarchal epoch, complete with the "divide and conquer" memes so prevalent today, were spawned from this pivotal time in history.

The subsequent rise of the three main religions, Judaism, Islam and Christianity, all spawned for this pivotal time in history, the "rule of law",which is nothing more than a way to subjugate and separate us from our soul heritage, our governments, courts, public education, and industrialization were all spawned from the destruction of the feminine and the rise of the patriarch, all run by the psychopathic ruling elite alien interlopers, of which Akhenaten was the premiere forefather.

naste.de.lumina

22nd November 2014, 16:31

Akhenaten is not known for its 'good' relations with 'priests' who controlled / possessed the systems of collecting material, dimensional and information energy. His break with this dominant priestly caste is documented and represented by the change in the Egyptian capital to Amarna (always suspicious of this source) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna), and its subsequent destruction.

Naste.

Hello Naste. The reign of Akhenaten and the history of Egypt at the time, are pivotal to the shift of the ages which occurred back then, just as we are experiencing a similar shift now. The move from gnosticism to monotheism, the exodus story in the bible, the Moses story, and the establishment of Zionist Israel. The whole patriarchal epoch, complete with the "divide and conquer" memes so prevalent today, were spawned from this pivotal time in history.

The subsequent rise of the three main religions, Judaism, Islam and Christianity, all spawned for this pivotal time in history, the "rule of law",which is nothing more than a way to subjugate and separate us from our soul heritage, governments, courts, public education, and industrialization were all spawned from the destruction of the feminine and the rise of the patriarch, all run by the psychopathic ruling elite alien interlopers, of which Akhenaten was the premiere forefather.

Exact, something occurred at that time.

The timeline in which we exist in this moment of time (the quantum 'time' is a state of consciousness) was triggered by the events of that space / time.

And maybe now we have his 'clone' as president of the united states, the kingdom over the kingdoms. One hell of 'theory of coincidence'.

RUSirius

22nd November 2014, 17:46

Mark

22nd November 2014, 18:38

Very interesting and well-written essay. Thank you.

Hello and thank you for your kind words, Jake. Many interesting points you make. In this thread, I will directly address the racial issues involved, the history and present situation of the US and how I see the future playing out. For as long as there is interest, I will engage. I have been hesitant to speak on racial issues here on PA but I am well-versed in them and they are relevant. Here in the Alternative Community, this is still an issue of extreme sensitivity. I think that is because there are very few Blacks or other minorities that interact with whites who are deeply engaged in alternative news and the awakening process.

The divide is immense. The overtly spiritualized nature of many blacks have sent us down roads quite different from those of whites who have been interested in these things, often centered around Egypt or the Moors, or the Hebrew Israelites. The cult of personality plays a large part in this, the search for a Messianic figure, a leader, which has not been the case with whites in these days. This in part stems from the Civil Rights era and eve before, from the legacy of such leaders as Booker T Washington, W.E.B. Dubois and Marcus Garvey, Martin Luther King, Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm X.

The necessity of our "sticking together" in the face of a violently hostile majority population bent upon our destruction has not ended. In fact, I would argue that the genocidal imperative is well in place, insidiously pervasive and still on track.

It is in this context that I will address these issues.

TPTB have been very heavy-handed in playing the race card, pushing in our faces Trayvon Martin, Ferguson, Obama, Ebola, interracial couplings, i.e., 'Oh no, they're coming after our white women!', etc., to purposely worsen and set back racial relations to the point of violence, perhaps to bring in martial law.

Simply put, yes. I would pare it down to an element of the PTB's institutional structure, the MSM. In regards to "heavy-handed", that is perhaps a perspective that you feel personally. It is indicative of your sensitivity to racialized issues that you perceive it as such. That is the case for many and the reasoning for the reactionary coverage that we often see. Many whites are as sensitive, as are blacks and others in minority positions when issues pertaining to their populations arise in the public mind.

I say this with the understanding that we do not have to feel this way. It is a choice. And, a trigger.

Understanding the nature of group-think and meticulously planted subliminal thoughts that tap into deeper streams of cultural consciousness going back hundreds of years now is mandatory in the process of observing our own reactions to these triggers, because that is indeed what they are. Programs, set to run for a specific time and to trigger other programs in turn, depending upon the individuals particularly position within the society to include class and race.

Race relations cannot be set back, imho, as they have not progressed in any but the most surface of ways. As the generations pass, personal attitudes have shifted dramatically but the institutions have not. During the slavery era here in the US, most whites did not own slaves. Most, if asked, had sympathy for the plight of blacks and native folks, while still participating passively in the subjugation process. This continues today.

In fact, as I've stated before many times, the genius of representative democracy and Western Culture in general is in its ability to assimilate and morph, to embody the Hegelian Dialectic and integrate both sides of an issue, manifesting the common experiencing as the middle path between the two extremes, which we interpret as an evolution of the system, when instead it is only a re balancing at a different point, with the fundamental and underlying assumptions, including the necessity of keeping White Supremacy as the core imperative remaining intact.

"White Supremacy" and "Militant Blacks" are creations or by-products of this manipulated divide-and-conquer strategy by the Jesuit-Judaic string-pullers who are always trying to push two population segments they loath and fear into destroying each other. Discriminated-against blacks and marginalized whites buttons are being pushed, played like a prodigy performing a classic score. The well-publicized "breaches" in White House security and Bibi Satanyahoo's "grassy knoll" sneer comes off as threats or predictive programming as how they intend to ignite their sinister, purposely-manufactured and over-hyped powder keg.

I am not sure I agree with your dichotomized formulation. White supremacy is the overarching and globalized structure of command and control that epitomizes the genetic hierarchy as implemented and carried out since the early 1700s here in US and then exported world-wide. As such, perhaps the conservative and liberal expressions of it would be a more accurate way to put it. Perhaps you meant "White supremacists"? That would dichotomize well with militants of every minority group.

In regards to fear and loathing, the Judaic string you speak of originated as a hybrid population in Egypt, possessing the same genetic structure as those Egyptians that I mentioned in the article. They were, even before the captivity in Egypt, a mixture of Amorite, Canaanite and Hittite, according to Genesis, which was also a mixed genetic heritage. It wasn't until the Diaspora, when the 12 tribes were dispersed by the Romans in 70AD and sent fleeing south, west, east and north, that we saw the even further genetic reduction of the Jewish tribe in Khazaria, as well as Beta Israel in Ethiopia and the Lemba in Zimbabwe.

I mention the above in recognition of the relevance of the DNA factor, the pervading commonality throughout all of this. The motivations of the Judaic faction are different from those of the Jesuit faction. The Nordic factor as expressed through the Nazi relationship with the Jesuits is real, but has a much different origin than that of the Judaic.

This is sensitive, intricate and involved and I do not want to reduce it to the point of crass generalization. I expect this will come up further down the line so I will leave it at this for now.

I believe it was also knowing that NO Republican was going to win after 8 years of the Dense Dolt, knowing it's best to punt on 4th-and-27 at your own 3-yard line, and to toss voters a bone to let them think they actually do have power in the controlled game by electing a person of color.

As my article explores in great detail, I believe it is much deeper than this.

Perhaps, or is this TPTB's "good cop" to the outgoing power structure "bad cop." They always play this chess game several moves ahead.

There are different factions, yes. Each with different outcomes in mind. Conflating them is dangerous. Thank you, Jake, for your excellent points.

Mark

22nd November 2014, 18:59

Hi Rahkyt, well done on this scholarly work. It explains a lot about why he was chosen as a puppet for the elite. As always sir, your command of the english language is second to none. Your intelligence shines through your words.

Hi Stan, thank you in turn, Sir. At this point of Obama's presidency, everything remains up in the air in regards to a final dispensation. But the more extreme potentialities seem to be rising closer to the surface as he loses support from his liberal base, disappointed by the MSM structuring of his successes and failures. Observing the memes in the context of greater societal forces pertaining to racial issues seems to point to another flashpoint occurring soon that further alienates him from the interests of the majority population in the USA which will set the stage for what comes next.

The immigration issue is just another step. None of the primary MSM channels broadcasted his speech on immigration, which is quite telling. For those posting the liberal and conservative responses to this meme, playing into the hands of either side of the Controller agenda, the question might be asked, what purpose are they serving? Since the overall goal is the decimation of all sectors of the American polity, do any of their political prognostications serve the populace in general?

Or are they further attempts to play upon assumed cultural positions that we each hold, in the attempt to solidify this divide in order to perpetrate an even greater fraud upon us?

Spiral of Light

22nd November 2014, 19:15

Thanks for this detailed and well-presented essay, Rahkyt. There is a lot of information here to sink our teeth into.

Others have made the Obama/Akhenaten connection, too. When you see it, it's difficult to not believe it.

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Mark

22nd November 2014, 19:22

Rahkyt, nicely deconstructed and well written analysis of Obama and our present situation.

I was aware of some of it, but I think you touched on all relevant points. You shine!

Hi there Latte, thank you for commenting.

I attempted to touch on many of the relevant issues in the article, but did not give enough time to the extraterrestrial connection, as well as the cultural impetus that we here in the USA are programmed with from the earliest ages, and which is relevant to every discussion of these issues as they are so foundational to our belief system.

E Pluribus Unum is Latin for "Out of many, one"

Interpreting this phrase literally has obvious conclusions. This nation was born to be what it is now and the founding fathers knew it. Counted on it in the manifestation of the greater plan to implement a one world government. The United States has been the crucible of this effort now for quite some time and our culture has expanded world-wide, part of a deliberate effort to export these ideas of unity in diversity, of tolerance, of greater ideas of individual freedom and political inclusion.

While these ideas, to many in the alternative community, have been hijacked collectively, individually, all who hold these ideals close to their heart are, in microcosm, fractalized representatives of this Americanizing imperative and carry it with them, virus-like, wherever they go. I can attest to this as a military brat and solider, well-traveled and familiar with personalized interaction with people in other countries.

This is also an expression of the extraterrestrial agenda as well, if this planet is indeed a coalescence of many different extraterrestrial races who came here specifically to engage and to create something new in this galaxy, if not the entire universe. The simple mundanity of life as lived, of being ensconced within any of the Western countries, and the United States in particular, is to be implicit in the fulfillment of E Pluribus Unum.

For a nation founded in violence, and that has interacted with the world in a violent manner since its inception, the situation on the ground currently was and is the only possible outcome. Contradictions must be reconciled and the biological factors that drive us apart are equalized by the cultural factors that bring us together.

We shall see which is stronger, or, if there is a middle path between the two, which, I think, is what the PTB are angling for. In the context of their overall strategy of population control, they seek to bring together genetic and cultural heritages that suit their purposes. Those Illuminati factions opposed to this and bent upon retaining control of the genetics and the cultures are diametrically opposed to those who seek to fulfill the original purpose of the human experiment, which evolved into the Great American Experiment, either by design or by some higher, supernal plan that involves actors both within and outside of the perceived Controller factions.

Mark

22nd November 2014, 20:07

Very well researched and very well written Rahkyt. I would only like to add a few points.

Hi Grip, thanks for dropping by. Your thoughts and comments are welcomed, as always.

With the advent of cray supercomputers and the "promis" software, it is possible to run all scenario's and all contingencies and all the variables and actually engineer the outcomes based on the highest probabilities within a percentage of tolerable outliers which can be managed. I don't think these elite are on the ropes, or that they don't know exactly what they are doing and exactly how to fulfill their agenda.

Consider the ability to gather all data digitally into massive storage facilities, and to then collate this information and run it through their promis software and distill it down to the highest probabilities and then microwave entrain consciousness to go exactly where they want.

I agree, Grip. I do not wish to minimize the Controller's agency or profound understanding and control of our material reality or to imply that, insofar as it is possible for them to do so, they are not in full control of their agenda and are on track to accomplish exactly what they set out to do. With their technological supremacy, their possession of reverse-engineered extraterrestrial artifacts, the dominance of the Nazi faction and the Breakaway civilization in the current economic and political context, they are doing what they must and can do, which is considerable.

My understanding that they are experiencing difficulties currently has to do with things they cannot control or predict. Higher dimensional imperatives in opposition to theirs, that they have no way of predicting for or even know that they exist as variables that must be accounted for in their byzantine calculations. With that said, I do believe that the world is destined to become one. That we will become a planetary civilization. The devil is in the details, though, and the way by which this occurs is where the primary conflict in desired outcomes exists, in my perspective.

The lack of the ability to control for absolutely all outcomes at all levels of reality is the primary basis for my confidence that things are not as some of the Controller factions wish them to be. Higher-D intention is the impetus for all we experience and see here in the world. The battles we fight, are being fought there as well in a different, unrecognizable form, but still apparently contentious. Their resolution will work its way down to our level of understanding perhaps in seemingly miraculous ways.

I know you are one who has experience in this area, as do I. We know, for a fact, that there are other forces at play here beyond those that are apparent. Speaking from my perspective, I know, for instance, that my Ancestors are with me right now. Those from the native and African side, Honored Ancestors, even those from my European genetics, if they were honorable, are out there right now watching me write these words, energetically connected to me by way of my genetic structure. The way they influence the world is through synchronicities, through manifestations, through miracles. Through methods that cannot be predicted by the Elite computer systems. In addition, there are Guides and Angels, and extraterrestrial entities that interact at higher-D levels, who also possess the ability to affect reality in ways beyond the mundane.

I think that this interpretation, allowing for an uncontrollable, divine factor, that seeks every to balance the scales and right the wrongs, influences events at the individual level, through you and me, and those we can have no way of knowing, to change the game in transformatory ways. It is true that right does not always win. That wrong triumphs, often. That the scales are not balanced on the level of an individual life or even a collection of lifetimes along the reincarnative scale. But, these times we live in are exceptional and the rising tide of consciousness continues. At this point, it is so ubiquitous as to be normative, but looking at the world around us right now, from the perspective of, say, 2005, it is amazing how much things have changed. How many more people are awakened.

These factors are being managed effectively within the structure of our overall culture currently. Elite machinations remain, for the most part, within a normal range of distribution, but those outliers, perhaps, contain some points that possess greater potential for system breakdown than others. And, through synchronicitous and entropic occurrences, opposition to the Controller designs with coalesce in a way that serves interests outside of the current constellation of unacceptable outcomes.

I know they are mostly RH- blood, but they are looking for something, I can feel it. As they attempt to recreate the original pure bloodline before they bastardized it and inter bred with the earth humans, they had an element which I'm fully convinced is missing, and that is why they mapped the entire genome, and have kept blood databases since the early fifties, to try and find it and to re-infuse it into their bloodline.

Obama is a beta test of what they had at the time.

This is very interesting. I would like to explore this further. But I do think that the particular Controller faction who has placed him in this position are not representative of the greater extraterrestrial plan for this planet. They are employing hybridization strategies, yes, which is in line with that outcome, but they are doing so currently in a manner which seeks to reinforce their control structure and deny the karmic and physical forces that demand an energetic balance, a reckoning. Obama's bloodline is unique to him, of course, but the genetic structure he represents - again as a fractalized expression - is present in others of a similar dna structure, as I attempted to make clear in my essay.

Have you heard of the immortal cells of Henrietta Lacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa)? It is perhaps something more of this sort that they seek.

I would also point out that this missing aspect is most likely carried by the 15% divergents who did not have their upper brain centers cauterized and severed, those of the first chimeric creation. These individuals still have full left/right brain function, full energetic capacity to run energy up the djed and to stimulate the pineal gland and activate the cerebrum and cerebellum. They are the carriers. They are also the outlier.

Also very interesting. I do not know much about this. 15%? I have researched on this topic a bit, am aware that the hybridized Terran human as encountered by later extraterrestrial interests - I'm thinking Anunnaki, Sumer, etc. atm - was indeed genetically manipulated in order to sever that connection and limit its spiritual capacities and to subject it to psychic control mechanisms. It would be greatly appreciated if you could speak further on this issue when time allows.

While these elite mess with the genome and work at making their new humans 2.0, who would be dumbed down even further, and even more docile and subservient, they are also working on the ultimate fully activated genetics for themselves.

I don't think they have found it yet.

Do you believe that finding it serves the greater purpose of Terran evolution?

Ultima Thule

23rd November 2014, 18:54

I've never been able to wrap my mind around the bloodline-thing, but -

In analogy are we talking about the idea of a family on a long abroad voyage that lost important parts of their navigational map while disucssing with the natives? After a long while bits have to be recovered from heirlooms of local houses?

UT

RUSirius

23rd November 2014, 19:10

Mark

23rd November 2014, 19:32

Rahkyt, I deeply appreciate your well-articulated thoughts. Excellent article. It helps to have a context against which we can view the irrationally, disproportionately hostile reactions we've seen in the U.S. to the changing landscape of power/privilege.

I wonder if you have seen this wonderful article about "reactionary rage," using a comparison of "GamerGate" to the "Disco Demolition" event. I think these extreme rage reactions (including the recent flaring of shocking gun violence) are very telling. They point to the underlying fear associated with generations of conditioning.

Hi Soulsinger, thank you very much for that article! It was quite interesting to read and does indeed speak to the same strata of fear-based targeting that taps into that underlying strata of fear that we are discussing in part here.

Such a broad and diverse topic, but all of it based in fear. Male/Female, Black/White, Homo/Hetero, Rich/Poor, our media are professionals at opening the wounds that divide, stoking the flames that burn good judgment away.

Because this is so widespread, so pervasive a reality, it is very hard to have a conversation about it. We are all implicit in some form of fashion and nobody wants to open up to talk about it because it is so intimate. Kind of like a family secret. A very, very disfunctional family.

:twitch:

onawah

23rd November 2014, 20:20

Thanks, Rahkyt. I want to read this asap.
Obama has always been a puzzle to me, and I look forward to your insights.

Mark

23rd November 2014, 20:22

doodah

23rd November 2014, 20:44

Thank you Rahkyt, for this article. It has certainly raised some interesting questions.

If I may speak for myself for a moment -- let me say that I am inhabiting a "white" body which carries mostly a melting pot of European genes along with a smattering of Native American. Despite what I LOOK like, I feel an almost constant need to apologize to the world for what my white ancestors have done on this planet. I know that I, in this body, did not do those things, but still, here I am, born in the USA and looking like a member of the world conquerors' tribe. This is a source of great dismay and embarrassment to me. I truly detest so many of the things being done on this planet today, especially the concerted efforts by those in power to wipe out all the indigenous peoples still remaining, whether that is being done physically by death, or by destruction of habitat, or through forced social homogenization, numbering and counting, vaccinations, etc. THEY see a need to homogenize this planet (the elites are inbred so maybe they've already homogenized themselves). Those of us BEING homogenized should take a short look at the natural world to understand that monocultures are weak, easily decimated by disease or weather conditions. The strength TPTB have is monetary, military, and technological, nothing else.

It seems to me that the PTB have played and are still playing their big cards - their multigenerational, occult cards - but WE have not played OUR big cards. We, as humanity capable of empathy and a desire to break down the power pyramid that for whatever pathological reasons insists on turning Paradise into Hell, DO have a huge card. The focused power of joined conscious loving hearts has not been brought into play... I don't know if it ever will be, there is so much distraction beamed at us every nanosecond and so much of our time, energy, and thought is spent scrambling to simply survive. A great deal of this scrambling is monetary in nature, the whole money system of course being a major control mechanism designed for the benefit of thieves.

But I am a true metaphysician, as are we all even if we don't know it. Awakening is happening worldwide but the deepest use of our awakening has not yet been clearly applied. I believe that we, as individuals and especially as groups of conscious joined loving hearts, DO have the power to fundamentally alter the "metaphysical physics" at play in this dimension. To do this does not require money or special training, and certainly not violence. This is the kind of change that happens "in a twinkling" as is said in the Christian bible, although I'm not sure how Christians interpret that passage.

For 7 billion of us, there is only one pertinent question: Do you wish to live doing harm to none? This is a deep question with vast physical ramifications, much of which we are not at this time educated to comprehend. But even with our incomplete understanding, how many "yes" answers put into action does it take to fundamentally alter how we interact with each other and the planet?

Mark

23rd November 2014, 21:43

The reign of Akhenaten and the history of Egypt at the time, are pivotal to the shift of the ages which occurred back then, just as we are experiencing a similar shift now. The move from gnosticism to monotheism, the exodus story in the bible, the Moses story, and the establishment of Zionist Israel. The whole patriarchal epoch, complete with the "divide and conquer" memes so prevalent today, were spawned from this pivotal time in history.

The subsequent rise of the three main religions, Judaism, Islam and Christianity, all spawned for this pivotal time in history, the "rule of law",which is nothing more than a way to subjugate and separate us from our soul heritage, our governments, courts, public education, and industrialization were all spawned from the destruction of the feminine and the rise of the patriarch, all run by the psychopathic ruling elite alien interlopers, of which Akhenaten was the premiere forefather.

Hi Grip, you broke it down nicely, I fear I repeated some of your points in my most recent response. In this current reiteration of that ancient story, we see perhaps two different forces at work here, the splitting off and further refinement and institutionalization of the hierarchical command and control network.

One of the primary complaints that most people have about Obama is that he is doing things that no other president has ever done, much like Akhenaton did things that no other God-King had ever done before him, in taking the trappings of ritual and obeisance that had typified Egypt prior to his coming and honing them to a pinpoint expression of institutional worship. In considering the differences between now and then, my mind seeks correlations that are holistic in nature. Contextually, the worship of the many gods and goddesses in ancient Egypt corresponds to our current constellation of religions, different gods and goddesses, all falling under the auspices of the nation itself and the idea/ideal of America, one nation under God. People now are Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Agnostic, Atheist, Pagan, but for many, their American identity is more fundamental to their being. Their religious convictions are often secondary, in a sense, as we see primary American values of freedom, constitutional rights and such things as often trumping the divine commandments of the different religious systems.

Akhenaton was enemy to that system. He was struck from the records, something not done before or after, from what I understand. I wonder if it can be said at this juncture that Obama is enemy to this system? Or is he, as you seem to imply, a representative of it, a splintered representation who was cloned/born to further refine the system and take it to its next level of expression? If the combined forces currently running the Shadow Government had their way, with the enmity they seem to hold for him, it seems they would strike him from the record in a similar fashion if it were possible to do so.

Mark

23rd November 2014, 22:08

Greetings Rahkyt, I really appreciate the work you've done on this, it makes it easier for people like myself to make "more" sense of it all. Much of what you've written about is not necessarily new to me. But your eloquence and style equate to a mere perfect delivery system for the human mind to digest. Thank you, its always a pleasurable experience to read what comes out of your mind.

Hi RUSirius, good to see you as always. As I write in response to all of y'all and your comments, I find so many things going through my mind that it is difficult to capture them all with my slow fingers (110 wpm lol). I am trying. I find it necessary to address these issues here and now on Avalon, as I need the foil of others who are versed in these topics to help me to understand the greater context.

Already, y'all have helped me to add further complexity, bringing forth pertinent issues and accompanying me further down the rabbit hole to flesh out these different aspects of the issue.

One thing that comes to mind now is something I've mentioned in passing, and that is the flight of the liberal base from Obama. I've read a number of articles recently in the MSM, opinion pieces, mostly, that speak of how Obama is the "Stranger", that he thinks he is "too good" for politics, that he doesn't like to "glad-hand" and that he does not express the same egocentricity that other Presidents before him have displayed, the need to be loved, the need to have a crowd around him, etc.

Since this meme is becoming more and more pervasive, it must be a deliberate attempt to shift the balance of perception against him on the Left. The most recent election cycle saw many of the politicians on the Left drawing away from him, not using his successes as POTUS to bolster their own election campaigns. The result, across the board losses, although much of that also has to do with the gerrymandering and the control of the election machines by Republicans. As we saw in the last presidential elections, that could be overcome by overwhelming turnout as well as the help of Anonymous. :)

The point is, even now, at year 6 of the Obama Presidency, there remains an ongoing program to characterize Obama as "Other". At this point in Dubya's reign, he had been torn down so much by Liberals and the media that he had reached late-night-joke-and-lame-duck status and was working on his legacy, giving aid to Africa, etc. Clinton before had just passed the Lewinsky affair and was also firmly in lame duck status. The prior 2-term president, Reagan, had been shot and GHB was firmly in control of the white house. None of them were subjected to the same intensity of programmatic character assassination. Obama remains a focused target, remains questionable in his intentions and actions. It seems that the folks behind the scenes still are not certain what he might do day to day. This is different from the situation of the Presidents who came before him.

RUSirius

23rd November 2014, 23:09

naste.de.lumina

23rd November 2014, 23:43

This information about President Obama being a type of genetic clone of Ancient Egyptian King akhenaton is not new to me. Its historical conceptual structuring factual about this possibility helps me put some of the pieces in their proper places in the existing logic of the bigger picture that fills my consciousness.

Backed by the endless possibilities of quantum realities, if that is the case, something inside me whispers 'revenge'.

Akhenaten is not known for its 'good' relations with 'priests' who controlled / possessed the systems of collecting material, dimensional and information energy. His break with this dominant priestly caste is documented and represented by the change in the Egyptian capital to Amarna (always suspicious of this source) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna), and its subsequent destruction.

The strong evidence that there were deep frictions in this historical period and perhaps the dark cabal perspective, also there is a reckoning with the past. Perhaps the fulfillment of a promise of revenge that occurred millennia ago.

Hugs.

Naste.

Hi Nast, I've seen it speculated before that Akhenaton was Moses from the bible. Which gives rise to an interesting set of ideas, considering that Judaism and its reform movement Christianity have very obvious ties to worship of the solar deity in Egypt.

http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/osman_moses.php
http://www.amazon.com/Moses-Akhenaten-Secret-History-Exodus/dp/1591430046
http://www.egypt-tehuti.org/downloadarticles/akhenaton-moses.pdf
http://theancientsacredmysteries.com/akhenaton_moses.htm

There are many more resources which speak of this connection. Considering my contention that today's events are spiral-like in nature, reflecting the cyclical aspect of time as patterns repeat themselves, then the same drama that was being worked out then is currently being worked out now as well, but at a higher iteration in energy and impact.

If the pattern works itself out then this "Prince of Egypt" will lead an Exodus. The Messiah/Savior title that so many gave Obama when he came to the Presidency and that so many get so testy about is a part of this as well. If there is truly nothing new under the sun, and that larger context of civilizations evolving but following similar patterns of development is accurate, then indeed the similarities are remarkable.

Will the "revenge" you speak of be taken by the Priests? As was done by the striking of Akhenaton from the historical records?

I understand that the description below can generate many controversies but I think there is a logic in it.

Although there are many 'gods' at that time, it seems that God 'amon' was the main one. Therefore it is logical to assume that there was a whole priestly / military caste, a secret state within a state (just like today) that benefited from the power and wealth that the control and the tradition generated.

Suddenly a new 'king' breaks this paradigm radically. A king who according to some Egyptologists (in case I am referring to some studies published in Portuguese language that I can refer to if they wish) is against violence (war) against social classes by 'right' of birth, against sacrifices of animals (there were all one trade established for this), etc., in short, against the power of established underworld and for the truth.

This king of the 'disruption', was so hated by the powers that succeeded and 're-established' traditions, who tried to erase it from history deconstructing their cultural works as well as physical (cities, temples, etc.).

I understand that we are living a result of the progress of that time and therefore, I think that those priests who 're-established' traditions continued calling the shots on how the system would develop.

To answer your question: Yes, revenge of the representatives of the powers of the shadows that time, the 'priests / political / military / families with their lines of noble blood', bringing back the 'traitor king' to be destroyed in front of the eyes the physical world and maybe even on the other realities.

As this narrative something close to what actually occurred the question I ask myself is: They brought their soul with the cloned body or be only a representation by physical image?

I do not have answers to many questions that may arise on this narrative, especially in relation to the acts and conduct current president obama in this incarnation, they seem very different character made up by King Akhenaten (some kind of control?), but the coincidences are striking.

Sorry my bad English.

ThePythonicCow

24th November 2014, 00:20

The point is, even now, at year 6 of the Obama Presidency, there remains an ongoing program to characterize Obama as "Other". At this point in Dubya's reign, he had been torn down so much by Liberals and the media that he had reached late-night-joke-and-lame-duck status and was working on his legacy, giving aid to Africa, etc. Clinton before had just passed the Lewinsky affair and was also firmly in lame duck status. The prior 2-term president, Reagan, had been shot and GHB was firmly in control of the white house. None of them were subjected to the same intensity of programmatic character assassination. Obama remains a focused target, remains questionable in his intentions and actions. It seems that the folks behind the scenes still are not certain what he might do day to day. This is different from the situation of the Presidents who came before him.
Yes - part of the increasing crescendo of crises and the driving of further divisions between people.

For example, Obama's latest immigration order would let many Hispanics in the US now compete legally for the same sort of low paying jobs that many Blacks also compete for. This is yet one more provocation to Blacks in America, along side some highly publicized shootings of Black youth by White cops. Blacks and cops are being whipped into a violent distrust of each other.

We see here both the "Scattershot Effect" and the creation of "False Paradigms," that Brandon Smith of Alt-Market.com described so well a few months ago, in one of his classic posts, Internationalists Are Pushing The World Towards Globally Engineered Economic Warfare (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2263-internationalists-are-pushing-the-world-towards-globally-engineered-economic-warfare). Brandon Smith is one of the best analysts out there right now, and this is an excellent piece of his -- I recommend to all that they read it.

Out of such violence, fear, economic collapse and financial ruin will be "born" the solution, "The Rise Of The Hero Bankers," the next round, even more grand, of a more openly co-ordinated global monetary and financial system.

In the sort of debt based monetary system (Babylonian Money Magic) that we humans have been living for millenia, the one who grants the debt,
who holds the lien, mortgage, or security on the greater amount of labor, property and resources that are promised in return, and
who controls the armies, police, intelligence, bureaucracies, media, and mandate sufficient to collect on that debt, and any such debt, whether properly conceived or not,
is our "lord and master", the one who enslaves us.

naste.de.lumina

24th November 2014, 01:24

Mark

24th November 2014, 21:16

Others have made the Obama/Akhenaten connection, too. When you see it, it's difficult to not believe it.

28075

Akhenaton's afro-asiatic features actually are represented quite liberally in the Black American community. Obama is one example of many. If you recall a movie called "The 5th Element" with Bruce Willis, you'll recall that there were a number of servants to the alien singer, Diva Plavalaguna, who had this look as well. You can see it in clubs, in music videos, popular television shows.

In the Black American conscious community, there is a strong connection to ancient Egypt, called Kemet, on the African continent, also known as Alekbu-lan. It has been this way for decades, but peaked really in the late 1980s thru the 1990s as Hip Hop's consciousness apex was still reverberating around the world. The Controller factions put a quick halt to that and began the era of Gangsta/Thug rap, which continues to this day in a much watered down form. Afrocentricity, the arguments of Martin Bernal in "Black Athena", where he argued persuasively for the African origin of the Greek gods and goddesses, citing much evidence, gained world-wide attention at the time. John Henrik Clarke's seminal works to include "Christopher Columbus and the Afrikan Holocaust: Slavery and the Rise of European Capitalism ", Ivan Van Sertima's "They Came before Columbus" and many, many more made this connection overt, tracing the cultural and linguistic explosion from Egypt/Kemet into West and South Africa in the 2000 years BCE, as asiatic hordes such as the Hyksos invaded the Black Lands and sent those living there fleeing. The W. African countries of Nigeria and Ghana and all the rest can be traced linguistically back to Egypt, as can their religious systems. The same can be done in South Africa as well, although not as directly.

This is all, of course, long before there was actual genetic evidence that the Black American genome in its mixed-heritage aspect including European, Native American and African blood, mirrors that of Egyptians most closely today. A reproduction of a specific population, transplanted and restructured over hundreds of years of directed breeding, because that is what The Triangular Trade/Maafa was. The conditions of the Middle Passage were such that only the strongest survived. And that propensity of the European/American slave masters to breed the strongest males and females in order to produce stronger children continued throughout the overtly racialized slavery era, resulting in the genetic potpourri that, so strangely, is Egyptian in nature.

Things that make you go hm.

Mark

24th November 2014, 21:32

I'In analogy are we talking about the idea of a family on a long abroad voyage that lost important parts of their navigational map while disucssing with the natives? After a long while bits have to be recovered from heirlooms of local houses?

UT

Too much attention is paid to the "bloodline thing", imho. This said, as I go in depth about it. :)

My interest currently in presenting this information is as a counterbalance. This is a oppositional stream of genetic destiny as opposed to that of the -Rh folk, who are generally thought of to represent the Elitest of Elite factions and extraterrestrial DNA, but which, in actually, only represents one faction of many, on a planet where there have been many different extraterrestrial tribes who have lived and left their imprint here over many thousands if not millions of years.

Anyone who has taken the time to listen to Credo Mutwa and David Icke's astounding original interview, all 213:59 of it, understands this very clearly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4apWOUNOx64

I think your analogy works, UT. If the maps represent members of the family, genetic material, left with indigenous populations all over the world, and if the explorers represent star family. The heirlooms, then, are the sociofacts, mentifacts and artifacts produced by way of possession of this extraterrestrial genetic bequeathment - which finds expression in many, many different forms and through the combination of star lineages and the infinite permutations of that expression - and they have been left all over the world and are present now generations and millennia later, to be discovered anew or recognized by those coming from without, seeking to reconnect with their distant cousins.

Mark

24th November 2014, 22:03

Something that stands out to me, considering all the information you've presented on Obama, bloodlines, controllers etc. We seem to, regardless of the topic being discussed, be in a holding or a "wait and see" pattern. These are indeed fascinating and trying times, its challenging to remain patient, with so many potentialities on the horizon. Its all at the same time, so much to digest, yet desiring so much more. Too much and not enough all in the same breath.

Nice way to put it, RUSirius. And it seems we have been waiting our entire life. Some people like to say that it is always like that with people, no matter what time, what place, what culture. That everybody everywhen everywhere has always felt this way about their times, but I do not believe that is so and I know many others here feel the same way as well. We're in the midst of it and because of that, it feels normal to us while, from without, it is extraordinary. A few posts ago I stated that these times were amazing if examined from a 2005 perspective. Even more amazing from the 1995 and 1985 perspective.

My lady Sira and I have been discussing this in the context of the Awakening process, and the idea of ascension. Hurry up and wait, what we used to say back in the Army, also applies here. From those expecting some great Event to those expecting PTB victory, it is as if people are waiting for some particular point to arrive at which they can say this is it, what we have been waiting for. This is the sign, this is the doorway into this or that particular timeline eventuality.

From my perspective, this has always been folly and remains so. This is, of course, a nondualistic perspective where the Now is all there is. No past, no future, just Now. What is there to wait for? Now. Where are we going? Here. Here and Now.

I think it is the sense of being on the cusp that is so frustrating, so patience-draining. The cusp of what, nobody knows, which is as it should be. In the meantime, givin our level of agency, I'm doing all I can do to remain centered and grounded into my daily life, my momentary experiences, which, right now, are here with you.

:wizard:

doodah

25th November 2014, 00:39

Rahkyt, if I may go back into the genetics just a bit ... I may have missed it somewhere in your exposition. Did you mention that Ahkenaten and Nefertiti were both "coneheads"? I mean, they both had elongated skulls. The headdresses they wore weren't just a fashion of the time. Those headdresses covered elongated skulls.

There are skeletons with genuinely natural elongated skulls found all over the world.
Do you know if DNA analysis has been done on them?
Does anything in the Ahkenaten genetic information address this issue?
What race (or species) of people were they?
Were they human?
Is this the Anunnaki or some hybrid thereof?
Is the elongated skull a characteristic of the star family you refer to?

If I've read the various posts correctly, it seems to be saying that Obama may be a reincarnation (or perhaps carries some of the bloodline) of Ahkenaten, who defied the normal way of doing things and upset all the tenets of Egyptian society (the pyramid society / priests), establishing the first one-god / government. Obama carries the bloodline of the coneheads?
Naste suggests that Ahkenaten was a peacenik who espoused a kinder, gentler world.
Gripreaper suggests that Ahkenaten helped kill off the feminine and was forefather to the patriarchal system we have today, "all run by the psychopathic ruling elite alien interlopers."

Wow. If that isn't confusing! A peacenik psychopathic alien interloper. (I don't think I've ever heard the word psychopath used to refer to a peaceful person. "Psychopathically peaceful" - has a weird ring to it.)

I guess I'm not following how this adds up to revenge today - revenge against whom, today's pyramid society, today's priests who put him in office? If Obama is a reassertion of Anunnaki / star family influence and goals, does that mean we're heading toward peace? And peace is a revenge?

Rahkyt, I love your exposition and I've enjoyed reading the various posts. But can you put it together in simple words for me? :)

RUSirius

25th November 2014, 08:13

Mark

25th November 2014, 16:04

Obama has always been a puzzle to me, and I look forward to your insights.

Hi Onawah, thanks for visiting. Obama's puzzle is that of the stranger/other and the inscrutable aspect of him is the expression of his split-consciousness. He is two men in one and the position he holds has sublimated his soul to the advantage of his programmed alter, the public persona that masks. Hope to see you back.

:)

Mark

25th November 2014, 16:19

Hi Doodah, thank you for your in-depth and poignant comment.

If I may speak for myself for a moment -- let me say that I am inhabiting a "white" body which carries mostly a melting pot of European genes along with a smattering of Native American. Despite what I LOOK like, I feel an almost constant need to apologize to the world for what my white ancestors have done on this planet. I know that I, in this body, did not do those things, but still, here I am, born in the USA and looking like a member of the world conquerors' tribe. This is a source of great dismay and embarrassment to me. I truly detest so many of the things being done on this planet today, especially the concerted efforts by those in power to wipe out all the indigenous peoples still remaining, whether that is being done physically by death, or by destruction of habitat, or through forced social homogenization, numbering and counting, vaccinations, etc. THEY see a need to homogenize this planet (the elites are inbred so maybe they've already homogenized themselves). Those of us BEING homogenized should take a short look at the natural world to understand that monocultures are weak, easily decimated by disease or weather conditions. The strength TPTB have is monetary, military, and technological, nothing else.

The PTB that are directly involved in these programs you mention believe their science has solved the issues that would pertain to the genetic problem. That they are or will soon be able to augment their dna by transhumanist methods in order to alleviate any problems that may occur in the distant future in regards to being caught up in a genetic trap of sorts caused by the lack of diversity.

The indigenous and melanated people are a problem for them. The greater problem, is that the indigenous and melanated people are a problem for a substantial number of the population they wish to control as well, read the white majority population. Whether this is through deliberate cultural programming or something deeper is the question that people need to ask themselves. I've mentioned before and it has been discussed here in Avalon that there is science backing up the contention that trauma passes down through the genome, is programmed into people. I've mentioned it before in the context of the trauma of Black Americans, but that trauma also affects white Americans as well, as oppressing can be just as psychically traumatizing as being oppressed. This creates a blockage that feels physical in nature against incorporating certain understandings, as well as negating the capacity for empathy, compassion as this is the pattern necessary to oppress and control others. On the oppressed side, there is a similar form of paranoia ingrained as well based upon survival factors and the experience of ancestors who underwent physically and psychically traumatic events.

Of course, genetics can be reprogrammed by conscious desire. But how many are on that path? Even among the conscious, working to reprogram DNA is difficult if the problem is not known or, worse still, if it is supported, upheld by continuing connections to the paradigmatic structure that continues to divide and seek to conquer. For instance, for me to want to seek justice against Darren Wilson currently is in line with the programming that is collective currently in the black American community, and for you to want to see him freed is in line with the programming that is collective currently in the white American community. Our families, our friends, our communities have split along these lines and atavistic responses that go down to the root chakra and fear-based projections of the near future and what is in store for us collectively in this country. It is a difficult thing to recognize wrong, and to still be programmed to act along the lines of commonly-held perspectives. To recognize it and still do it is where the individual consciousness fails to live up to the necessity of reprogramming themselves and transcending the metanarrative.

It seems to me that the PTB have played and are still playing their big cards - their multigenerational, occult cards - but WE have not played OUR big cards. We, as humanity capable of empathy and a desire to break down the power pyramid that for whatever pathological reasons insists on turning Paradise into Hell, DO have a huge card. The focused power of joined conscious loving hearts has not been brought into play... I don't know if it ever will be, there is so much distraction beamed at us every nanosecond and so much of our time, energy, and thought is spent scrambling to simply survive. A great deal of this scrambling is monetary in nature, the whole money system of course being a major control mechanism designed for the benefit of thieves.

This is very true. As things continue along the paths they are currently on, there is no need for the PTB to seek to shift their plans. As Grip said, they are still on track and are confident that the genetic and cultural programming is sufficient to the task. The money and societal control system is indeed what you make it out to be and, until things are much worse in nations like the USA, things will not get better. Trauma has a way of either shutting people down or opening them up. And too many are still way too comfortable to open up to fundamental psychological change.

But I am a true metaphysician, as are we all even if we don't know it. Awakening is happening worldwide but the deepest use of our awakening has not yet been clearly applied. I believe that we, as individuals and especially as groups of conscious joined loving hearts, DO have the power to fundamentally alter the "metaphysical physics" at play in this dimension. To do this does not require money or special training, and certainly not violence. This is the kind of change that happens "in a twinkling" as is said in the Christian bible, although I'm not sure how Christians interpret that passage.

For 7 billion of us, there is only one pertinent question: Do you wish to live doing harm to none? This is a deep question with vast physical ramifications, much of which we are not at this time educated to comprehend. But even with our incomplete understanding, how many "yes" answers put into action does it take to fundamentally alter how we interact with each other and the planet?

Wonderfully said. There is nothing that I can add to that except there must come a point where this is realized by a large number of people. Collectively, at the same time. When that occurs, shift will truly take hold. Thank you so much for your comment.

Mark

25th November 2014, 16:26

I had thought it was always more about the current president than it was about Obama himself. The current agenda carried out by the one that fit the timeline, whomever it would have been. You're research adds a clearer picture as to Obamas role, do you think however, it could have been anyone? Although it seems moot.

On another timeline, perhaps it could have been someone else. On this one, imho, it could only have been Obama who fit the profile. The way that he has successfully galvanized the nation, effectively splitting us in half along political lines is one of his major purposes, whether consciously or unconsciously, it is not yet clear. The skillful manipulation of the MSM meme to draw support away from him on the Left is effectively shifting that split in one direction, that of fear and loathing. Fear of the other, fear for the future of this nation. Obama is other and unknowable, and therefore, enemy. The POTUS as enemy to the people. Certainly we have experienced that before, other previous presidents, but never has the president been seen as other by the majority population.

This is currently the case and contributing to a collective rise of reactionary forces that is being further deepened by the current issues surrounding Ferguson, not to mention the border and immigration, money and health care.

Black people are other, Mexicans are coming, my money is paying for the healthcare of welfare queens. Fear, fear, fear, loathing, loathing, loathing.

It's comin' down the pipes hard and fast now.

Mark

25th November 2014, 16:49

I understand that the description below can generate many controversies but I think there is a logic in it.

Although there are many 'gods' at that time, it seems that God 'amon' was the main one. Therefore it is logical to assume that there was a whole priestly / military caste, a secret state within a state (just like today) that benefited from the power and wealth that the control and the tradition generated.

The same can be applied to the USA and the wide diversity of religious systems, correlating to the "many gods and goddesses" of ancient Egypt.

Suddenly a new 'king' breaks this paradigm radically. A king who according to some Egyptologists (in case I am referring to some studies published in Portuguese language that I can refer to if they wish) is against violence (war) against social classes by 'right' of birth, against sacrifices of animals (there were all one trade established for this), etc., in short, against the power of established underworld and for the truth.

Obama is perceived, by those who have taken the time to examine the consistency of his words and actions, to be fundamentally Progressive in political leaning here in the United States. That perspective, in its pure, ideological form is against all of the same things.

The paradox is that Obama is cautious, which makes him seem center-leaning, and seeks political collusion across the isle between republican and democratic stances, which makes him look like a centrist. He is not. He is a pragmatist and intelligent enough to recognize the necessity of political expediency and of maintaining the balance of powers while simultaneously implementing new policies, producing executive orders in areas of extreme concern to those on the right, when he has the power to do so. He picks his moments carefully and then acts, often surprising those on both sides of the isle who have become complacent and thought that they "knew" who he was.

Therefore, he becomes even more "unknowable" and "other" to those that seek to pigeonhole their president, as I have and will continue to emphasize as long as this thread continues.

This king of the 'disruption', was so hated by the powers that succeeded and 're-established' traditions, who tried to erase it from history deconstructing their cultural works as well as physical (cities, temples, etc.).

I would hold that if this were possible it would be the outcome of the Obama Presidency if a substantial number of the moneyed and conservative interests have their way. The Amon folk back in Kemet were also fundamentally conservative in much the same way. Tradition, hierachy, control.

I understand that we are living a result of the progress of that time and therefore, I think that those priests who 're-established' traditions continued calling the shots on how the system would develop.

To answer your question: Yes, revenge of the representatives of the powers of the shadows that time, the 'priests / political / military / families with their lines of noble blood', bringing back the 'traitor king' to be destroyed in front of the eyes the physical world and maybe even on the other realities.[

The question then becomes, must the cycle continue? Will it be played out in exactly the same way, just through a higher iteration of the same circumstances? Resulting in a greater level of consolidation of difference? Will the system reestablish itself similarly, is this human nature? Will the control apparatus reestablish itself based upon higher conceptions of justice, yet still as bound by tradition and control as ever?

Is this the purpose? Is this the destiny of the human family?

There are still many months to go in the Obama presidency and, if things continue to ratchet up as they are now, there are certainly other events that will result in other surprises for us in the time to come. If the present trajectory continues uninterrupted, then perhaps things will clarify along these lines and we will indeed see a continuation of the cycle. The question of whether or not Akhenaton was destroyed remains slightly at issue, depending on whether or not he was indeed Musa/Moses. If he was, then the prediction might be that this Prince of Egypt, Obama, will indeed lead an Exodus to the "Promised Land". Leaving the Priests of Amon to rule in the traditional ways, over their flock of people locked into the paradigms they are used to.

But not until after a bloody accounting and confrontation.

Will Obama be radicalized at some point? We shall see.

As this narrative something close to what actually occurred the question I ask myself is: They brought their soul with the cloned body or be only a representation by physical image?

I do not have answers to many questions that may arise on this narrative, especially in relation to the acts and conduct current president obama in this incarnation, they seem very different character made up by King Akhenaten (some kind of control?), but the coincidences are striking.

Good point, in regards to character. Esoteric lore does suggest that souls that inhabited ancient bodies also inhabit those in the current era. This entire thread is an exercise in conjecture. I do not know for certain if Obama is indeed Akhenaton reincarnated, I am just working through the idea here with y'all seeking to understand things that occured at a similarly turbulent period of time many centuries ago.

Perhaps, together, we can make some sense out of this mess, eh?

Bless.

doodah

25th November 2014, 20:51

Rahkyt, continuing with the genetics a bit more ... your thread has put a bee in my bonnet - I wish I had time and computing power enough to follow where my own thoughts are leading me at this moment. But I can't, so I'm only going to put here what I've found at the tip of the iceberg and ask a few questions.

Ahkenaten was fourth ruler in the bloodline of Amenhotep. Ahkenaten's works, including his new city and his new god, were destroyed during the reign of THE VERY NEXT PHARAOH, Tutankhamen, King Tut - Ahkenaten's son in law. Tut was of the same lineage and was married to one of Ahkenaten's 6 daughters. (Of course, Tut was just a boy, assumed the throne at 9, died at 18. He did not really rule; all the destruction was done by his viziers and generals, supposedly in his name.)

Tut was also a conehead. kristinandcory.com/tutankhamun_ancient_1.html
When the facial reconstruction of Tut was revealed several years ago, it amazed me that not much mention was made about his elongated skull or what it might mean.

The bee in my bonnet flies around this question of the elongated skulls. Of course, we can't judge anything from statuary, drawings, or carvings that represent these various people -- we need the skeletons.

Up to King Tut, the Amenhoteps formed a royal dynasty, everyone related by blood, likely with inbreeding as seemed to be the custom with brothers and sisters marrying, etc.

All the early Amenhoteps had elongated skulls.
ancient-egypt.info (photos of mummy of Amenhotep II - elongated skull)
commons.wikimedia.org (photos of Amenhotep I - elongated skull)

I took a quick look at this bloodline, but I don't have time to look at previous dynasties to see if there is skeletal evidence showing that those who came before were also coneheads.

Here are the dates of the Amenhotep dynasty:
Amenhotep I ruling from 1566 - 1526 BC (there's a break in the line before the next Amenhotep - a research project to find out what happened and if the line continued to rule under other names)
Amenhotep II - r. 1450 - 1425 BC (again, a small break until the next one)
Amenhotep III - r. 1417 - 1379 BC
Amenhotep IV (Ahkenaten) - r. 1379 - 1362 BC
Amenhotep V (Smenkhkare, Tut's brother) - r. 1364 - 1361 (I have not had time to trace Tut's parentage yet)
Amenhotep, VI (King Tut) - r. 1361 - 1352
After Tut died, his vizier, Ay, succeeded to the kingship and married Tut's widow. I don't know if depictions of Ay or Tut's wife exist. Tut's wife was a conehead, but I can't guess about Ay.

Now let's skip to a slightly later time - only 30 years - when another dynasty forms: Ramses.
Ramses I - r. 1320 - 1318
Set, Ramses I's son - r. 1318 - 1304
Ramses II - r. 1304 - 1237 (a research project to see what happened in this break before the next Ramses)
Ramses III - r. 1198 - 1166
Ramses IV - r. 1166 (I did not find an end date)

None of the Ramses line were coneheads, although statuary shows that they did wear the tall headdresses commonly worn by the pharaohs.
commons.wikimedia.org (photos of Ramses I - VI mummies)

What all this is saying to me is that at least 3,500 years ago there were people with overt alien biology ruling Egypt. I wish I could, but I can't take on the research to follow the lines back as far as skeletal evidence exists, to get an idea how long this has been going on.

If the coneheads bred with roundheads often enough and the roundhead biology became dominant, what happened to the extra brains that must have been (might have been) in those elongated skulls?

All of this has to do with Obama, this world at this moment, and what an Obama bloodline connection to Ahkenaten might possibly mean. If he represents the idea of revenge, are we seeing the revenge of the coneheads against the roundheads? The revenge of the (Anunnaki?) against ___________?

You'll have to pardon me for saying that I find most of the potential scenarios put forth here rather stupid. My teachers have said that if we are to progress spiritually, we must OVERCOME OUR BIOLOGY, including our inbred biases as Rahkyt has described, as well as our lust for witless sex, procreation, and violence.

Rahkyt: "It is a difficult thing to recognize wrong, and to still be programmed to act along the lines of commonly-held perspectives." True. Unless you can stand back and say "Wait a minute..." Many here on Avalon must be saying that quite a bit, especially as so many inbred biases are held up to us and we are expected to mindlessly salute.

naste.de.lumina

26th November 2014, 03:52

If the coneheads bred with roundheads often enough and the roundhead biology became dominant, what happened to the extra brains that must have been (might have been) in those elongated skulls?

All of this has to do with Obama, this world at this moment, and what an Obama bloodline connection to Ahkenaten might possibly mean. If he represents the idea of revenge, are we seeing the revenge of the coneheads against the roundheads? The revenge of the (Anunnaki?) against ___________?

You'll have to pardon me for saying that I find most of the potential scenarios put forth here rather stupid. My teachers have said that if we are to progress spiritually, we must OVERCOME OUR BIOLOGY, including our inbred biases as Rahkyt has described, as well as our lust for witless sex, procreation, and violence.

Rahkyt: "It is a difficult thing to recognize wrong, and to still be programmed to act along the lines of commonly-held perspectives." True. Unless you can stand back and say "Wait a minute..." Many here on Avalon must be saying that quite a bit, especially as so many inbred biases are held up to us and we are expected to mindlessly salute.

doodah

Who cited a possible revenge was me and not Rahkyt. I also have no evidence for this possibility unless my intuition based on questions that were created in my mind as the pieces of this information came to me. I could be completely wrong about that.

Said that, I found very interesting the result of the research you did on the two dynasties, Amenhotep and Ramses.

From what I understand, you are assuming that the coneheads are the Anunnakis (I'm considering Anunnakis these historically identified by zacharias sitchin). If this were the case, it means that at some point the roundheads were superimposed on the Anunnakis who ruled Egypt since long before.

And apparently the roundheads were gaining power and great influence in the control of the empire, as Akhenaten built another capital to be able to get away from them.

But if the coneheads not are the 'Anunnaki' but another race? Probably would flood remaining. Saqqara is considered the oldest post-flood pyramid to be built, supposedly by Imhotep (that who comes in peace), also known as Hermes Trismegistus (three times genius), father of medicine, architecture and 'magic' (or technology?). Conehead?

http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/mythology/egyptian-elongated-skulls-statues.jpg

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/75/c8/7e/saquarra.jpg

There is a documentary called the The Horus Eye launched in 2000 and based on the investigations of the Egyptologist and mathematician RA Schwaller de Lubicz, postulates that saqqara was a quantum machine. A free energy generating plant for various purposes. Including resonance cameras at various levels that helped the initiates to come into contact with other realities of existence in higher frequencies.

According to the documentary, Atlantis survivors wise would be responsible for the birth of the Egyptian nation.

Unfortunately I have not found an English version. Ojo de Horus en español.
HzKuT8GpB5M

The transition between Amenhotep dynasties (Ay was the last) and Ramses occurred through the General Horemheb. According to the website of the Brazilian researcher Marcia Jamille Costa (http://arqueologiaegipcia.com.br/2012/10/05/a-analise-dos-talatats-de-akhenaton/),

Archaeology pointed out another important fact: the person who ordered the depredation of the temple was the successor Ay, which in turn was Tutankhamun's successor. It is assumed that Ay could be the father of Nefertiti, which would be an excuse for him to turn on the throne, but who replaces him is the general Horemheb that has no real ties. To try to understand why Horemheb could become king suggested that his wife would Mutnodjmet sister of Nefertiti.
Horemheb would be responsible for trying to delete Amenhotep IV Egyptian memory because a piece of rushes his seal was found among talatats.
Their motives may have been similar to the Tutmoses III years before, he needed to erase the existence of Hatshepsut of the murals to protect the accession of his son to the throne, as may have also been to "judge" the pharaoh who abandoned the normal Egyptian to appeal their convictions.

Talatats example
http://arqueologiaegipcia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/talatat_arqueologia_egipcia_egiptologia_akhenaton.jpg

You raised an interesting hare. I need more research and time to organize this new information in context.

Hugs.

Naste.

P.S.:
So when some of these coneheads skulls are investigated more deeply through DNA testing, appears a World Bank's advocate Karen Hudes with the 'news' that the real drivers of the world economy are the remaining coneheads that keeps hidden until today.

How does all this fit in?

naste.de.lumina

26th November 2014, 04:36

Good point, in regards to character. Esoteric lore does suggest that souls that inhabited ancient bodies also inhabit those in the current era. This entire thread is an exercise in conjecture. I do not know for certain if Obama is indeed Akhenaton reincarnated, I am just working through the idea here with y'all seeking to understand things that occured at a similarly turbulent period of time many centuries ago.

Perhaps, together, we can make some sense out of this mess, eh?

Bless.

No doubt that this is the goal my friend but I'm afraid to be fleeing the topic. It's not intentional.

PathWalker

27th November 2014, 08:57

Thanks you Rahkyt for your knowledge and wisdom.

I am curious to the bone about the subjects you elaborate. And have nothing to contribute.:(

:offtopic:
Yet the discussion bellow captured my attention.

"White Supremacy" and "Militant Blacks" are creations or by-products of this manipulated divide-and-conquer strategy by the Jesuit-Judaic string-pullers who are always trying to push two population segments they loath and fear into destroying each other. Discriminated-against blacks and marginalized whites buttons are being pushed, played like a prodigy performing a classic score. The well-publicized "breaches" in White House security and Bibi Satanyahoo's "grassy knoll" sneer comes off as threats or predictive programming as how they intend to ignite their sinister, purposely-manufactured and over-hyped powder keg.
I mention the above in recognition of the relevance of the DNA factor, the pervading commonality throughout all of this. The motivations of the Judaic faction are different from those of the Jesuit faction. The Nordic factor as expressed through the Nazi relationship with the Jesuits is real, but has a much different origin than that of the Judaic.

I wish to learn more about the Jesuit faction and the Judaic faction, and the dynamics. In a historic manner as you provide.
Are they dichotomy? Are more factions involved?
I remember Jordan Maxwell mention this in his Project Camelot interview.
I have so much questions about this.
Maybe someone can open a thread about this? In order to avoid more distraction I stop here. Thanks:focus:

onawah

27th November 2014, 19:07

I wish I had more time for Avalon these days, but my schedule is much less forgiving now.
I have read this thread now though, and it has been a very interesting read, indeed!
Thanks so much Rahkyt, for your informed insights, especially.
I don't have a lot to contribute, but Obama has been a subject of much fascination for me, and I agree that he seems to be as much a potential Wild Card as Manchurian Candidate.
It will certainly be interesting to see how he lives out this lifetime, particularly the next few years (provided he survives them!).
Simon Parkes doesn't have a favorable opinion of Obama, but I am going to recommend to him that he read this thread; perhaps he will have something to share, and possibly it may cause some revision in his perspective...
Something else that Simon has commented on that is a part of this discussion, though it has played only a minor part so far, is the ET factor and also the cosmic factor.
He thinks that what he calls the "meta gene" is going to play a big part in the play for human sovereignty on Earth, and by that I think he means the natural genetic mutation that occurs when the cosmos is ready for sentient beings to take a leap in evolution.
There is certainly evidence of this in incoming generations, though they certainly also have their hands full in dealing with their planetary "inheritance".
And, as many others have conjectured, there does seem to be a fair amount of interest on the part of pro-human ET alliances in seeing that humans will have more sovereignty, to the point of being willing to actually take some part in the process.
See also the last page(s) of GoodETxSG's excellent thread :
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66018-A-major-new-interview-with-a-Project-Avalon-Whistleblower--Questions-for-GoodETxSG-&p=906469#post906469
I think perhaps the real "x factor" is not going to be so much what Obama or his handlers do, but what the ETs do and what the cosmos itself has up its sleeve for us...
But Obama is certainly a fulcrum in this process, and I think we can continue to learn a lot just by watching him.

doodah

28th November 2014, 21:23

...
Who cited a possible revenge was me and not Rahkyt. I also have no evidence for this possibility unless my intuition based on questions that were created in my mind as the pieces of this information came to me. I could be completely wrong about that.

Said that, I found very interesting the result of the research you did on the two dynasties, Amenhotep and Ramses.

From what I understand, you are assuming that the coneheads are the Anunnakis (I'm considering Anunnakis these historically identified by zacharias sitchin). If this were the case, it means that at some point the roundheads were superimposed on the Anunnakis who ruled Egypt since long before.

Hi Naste ... Interesting comments! And thanks for clarifying about the "revenge" aspect.

I'm not really assuming the coneheads were the Anunnaki, just asking if they might have been? I agree with you, the coneheads might have been another race. What has more or less flabbergasted me is realizing that we have physical evidence (in the form of skeletons) that the coneheads were ruling Egypt not that long ago. 3,500 years ago is not so long ago. It's within our historical record; we have recorded information from that time in the form of hieroglyphs - IF the dating of the Egyptian dynasties is accurate, that is. (another research project needed to understand how this dating was done)

If the coneheads are part of Obama's line, how did the conehead lineage disperse throughout the entire Earth "human" population and what is left in the DNA that would be markers for conehead lineage today?

... who ruled Egypt since long before
Yes, I wonder how far back it goes. This is where the skeletons are needed as proof.

... But if the coneheads not are the 'Anunnaki' but another race? Probably would flood remaining. Saqqara is considered the oldest post-flood pyramid to be built, supposedly by Imhotep (that who comes in peace), also known as Hermes Trismegistus (three times genius), father of medicine, architecture and 'magic' (or technology?). Conehead?

http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/mythology/egyptian-elongated-skulls-statues.jpg
Wow ... thanks for presenting this information. Certainly looks like a conehead to me. Later on, the alchemists revered this person and wished they knew what he had known. I see that the photo reference is called "mythology." If we've got elongated skulls as physical evidence, this is not mythology, it's fact that some unnamed race (or species) was on this planet not that long ago.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/75/c8/7e/saquarra.jpg

There is a documentary called the The Horus Eye launched in 2000 and based on the investigations of the Egyptologist and mathematician RA Schwaller de Lubicz, postulates that saqqara was a quantum machine. A free energy generating plant for various purposes. Including resonance cameras at various levels that helped the initiates to come into contact with other realities of existence in higher frequencies.

According to the documentary, Atlantis survivors wise would be responsible for the birth of the Egyptian nation.

Naste, do you know if anyone has written the book that pulls all this together -- roundheads/ coneheads/ who these various people WERE and where they came from?

Unfortunately I have not found an English version. Ojo de Horus en español.
HzKuT8GpB5M

The transition between Amenhotep dynasties (Ay was the last) and Ramses occurred through the General Horemheb. According to the website of the Brazilian researcher Marcia Jamille Costa (http://arqueologiaegipcia.com.br/2012/10/05/a-analise-dos-talatats-de-akhenaton/),

Archaeology pointed out another important fact: the person who ordered the depredation of the temple was the successor Ay, which in turn was Tutankhamun's successor. It is assumed that Ay could be the father of Nefertiti, which would be an excuse for him to turn on the throne, but who replaces him is the general Horemheb that has no real ties. To try to understand why Horemheb could become king suggested that his wife would Mutnodjmet sister of Nefertiti.
Horemheb would be responsible for trying to delete Amenhotep IV Egyptian memory because a piece of rushes his seal was found among talatats.
Their motives may have been similar to the Tutmoses III years before, he needed to erase the existence of Hatshepsut of the murals to protect the accession of his son to the throne, as may have also been to "judge" the pharaoh who abandoned the normal Egyptian to appeal their convictions.

Talatats example
http://arqueologiaegipcia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/talatat_arqueologia_egipcia_egiptologia_akhenaton.jpg
Thank you for that information, following the line a bit further. Note the coneheads in the drawings.

You raised an interesting hare. I need more research and time to organize this new information in context.

Yes, this is tremendously interesting. Maybe we need a whole new thread to go into depth on this if it isn't already written in a book somewhere. The genetics are only part of Rahkyt's thesis ... but as I'm reading it, the genetics may be the major part, especially ... read your PS below! (I assume you wrote that as a joke? But I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it's true.)

Hugs.

Naste.

P.S.:
So when some of these coneheads skulls are investigated more deeply through DNA testing, appears a World Bank's advocate Karen Hudes with the 'news' that the real drivers of the world economy are the remaining coneheads that keeps hidden until today.

How does all this fit in?

Mark

28th November 2014, 23:45

For example, Obama's latest immigration order would let many Hispanics in the US now compete legally for the same sort of low paying jobs that many Blacks also compete for. This is yet one more provocation to Blacks in America, along side some highly publicized shootings of Black youth by White cops. Blacks and cops are being whipped into a violent distrust of each other.

I think many Americans don't want those jobs, working in the fields, working as maids and butlers, etc., blacks included among them. For black Americans of the lower classes, going back to the fields is reminiscent of going back to slavery and just another indication that their plight has not gotten any better in almost 150 years.

While being only 12-14% of the population currently, blacks remain disproportionately represented in the lower classes without the "normal distribution" with other ethnic groups display after having been in the US for a few generations.

A large part of this issue has to do with the fact that black Americans are NOT an immigrant group. Our African ancestors did NOT immigrate here. They were brought here by force. That single fact alone is so important but something that many people fail to account for in their analyses of the situation of black Americans when compared to those of groups that immigrated here to the US over the succeeding centuries and decades. The fact that this population has been virtually controlled and restricted since day one of arriving in the Americas is a large part of the fact that they, we, continue to be controlled and restricted to this day.

The cops, as well as the institutions and the propertied interests that they represent are the primary reason why that control apparatus is what blacks strive against to this day. Not white people as a whole, but the institutions of white supremacy, reinforced and continually strengthened as a bulwark against the birthing of a new and more egalitarian society than this country has ever been.

In fact, the original promise of the United States of America, fulfilled, as Martin Luther King used to state so eloquently.

We see here both the "Scattershot Effect" and the creation of "False Paradigms," that Brandon Smith of Alt-Market.com described so well a few months ago, in one of his classic posts, Internationalists Are Pushing The World Towards Globally Engineered Economic Warfare (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2263-internationalists-are-pushing-the-world-towards-globally-engineered-economic-warfare). Brandon Smith is one of the best analysts out there right now, and this is an excellent piece of his -- I recommend to all that they read it.

Out of such violence, fear, economic collapse and financial ruin will be "born" the solution, "The Rise Of The Hero Bankers," the next round, even more grand, of a more openly co-ordinated global monetary and financial system.

Love your posts and comments on these economic topics, Paul, we have engaged many times on them as you continue to educate us on the particulars of what is coming down the pipelines on that front and what is, in fact, already here. The Hero Bankers, eh?

Well, all of their plans discount the fact that the groundswelling discontent is oceanic, that it is more than just the minorities that are feeling it now. Through their own efforts, they have now succeeded in alienating their base white constituency by deconstructing the white middle class and immersing these people, whose ancestors served as the adminstrative and actual working class functionality of the system itself. The current generations from Gen-X to Gen-Z have been divorced from the system and now, once again, have common cause with the black, latino/hispanic racial sub-groups, which brings together all elements of society against their efforts. The awakening process has educated so many, that this realization is now pandemic.

Hence, their efforts at stoking the racial flames in order to reinvigorate these ancient tribal enmities in the effort to consolidate their plans and, in one fashion at least, reconcile the white base to their control efforts. Perhaps the racialized triggers they are currently employing are meant to result in some sort of race-war, which they think will give them time enough to implement their plans to FEMA camp blacks and other minorities, staff them with poor and lower middle class whites who will serve as the camp guards, until their time comes to enter the camps as well. Perhaps the Progressive Liberals will enter next, then the Moderates, with the Conservatives serving as guards. Then, when all of the rest have been camped, the moderate conservatives, then the right-wing conservatives will be all that is left and the Tea Party will be ascendant, until it comes time to cull them by ethnicity and adherance to the blonde-haired-blue-eyed standard the racial purifiers seek to implement.

I realize this scenario is extreme. Just putting it out there as a logical exercise in psychopathy.

In the sort of debt based monetary system (Babylonian Money Magic) that we humans have been living for millenia, the one who grants the debt,
who holds the lien, mortgage, or security on the greater amount of labor, property and resources that are promised in return, and
who controls the armies, police, intelligence, bureaucracies, media, and mandate sufficient to collect on that debt, and any such debt, whether properly conceived or not,
is our "lord and master", the one who enslaves us.

Indeed. Excellent break-down as always, Paul. Sorry for the late response, I'm taking my time here. :)

Mark

29th November 2014, 00:04

Amarna, the capital created by Akhenaten and Nefertiti seems to have been a total break of experience with the 'pyramid' establishment of power.

Decree to free all the slaves is not good for business.

The intentional orthodox narrative tax Akhenaten like crazy that almost destroyed an empire. I understand your reasons while not agreeing.

Hi Naste, what do you mean by the above, in regards to you not agreeing?

Needless to say, if this attempt to meet the basic needs to enable the human / spiritual development of all people, should not have been a popular idea among the ruling classes in whatever dimension which it is found.

This experience ended in a massacre of most amarna residents and the re-establishment of the ancient capital and their owners. I can not say I'm surprised at this end.

Again, it is very possible that Akhenaton was Moses. If that is so, than the "official" recounting of what occurred there might have been somewhat staged in order to present the facade of the "old order" totally obliterating the "new order".

I also would not be surprised to find that they have the knowledge (I think this question is all about frequency, vibration and phase) that gives them some sort of control over souls and reincarnation on certain bloodlines. The same souls reincarnate in rh bodies, with capacity of memories and use both sides of the brain? A continuum of memories comes in handy when it comes to envisioning strategies for millennia.

These people were not -RH. Those who resemble them most closely today are also not -RH negative. If that is the case, that souls reincarnate in the same genetic lines over time, then they would not reincarnate in -RH bodies because they were not part of that genetic heritage.

UPDATE: They were -RH. Obama is also -RH.

These are some of the reasons that made me assume that there may be some kind of revenge. Why else would the dark cabal would be bringing back a personality that caused them so much hassle and 'fear' in the past? After all he was the king.

But I can also be wrong.

We can all be very wrong and that is ok. :)

It is the query, the exploration that is important.

In regards to the dark cabal bringing him back, what if, he was coming back anyway? Outside of their control?

What if they knew this? And if all of their efforts since, have been the attempt to control something that was going to occur whether they had any say in the matter at all?

And what if, in the end, it all ends up being beyond their control? If any of these potentialities have even the slightest validity, then we are looking at a series of energies and events that are so large that they are beyond the ability of human-based agency, no matter how powerful and pervasive, to control.

Mark

29th November 2014, 00:33

HI Doodah, you bring up some great points!

... I may have missed it somewhere in your exposition. Did you mention that Ahkenaten and Nefertiti were both "coneheads"? I mean, they both had elongated skulls. The headdresses they wore weren't just a fashion of the time. Those headdresses covered elongated skulls.

I did not mention that they were coneheads and yes, they were. Thanks for bringing up that important aspect of the discussion.

There are skeletons with genuinely natural elongated skulls found all over the world.
Do you know if DNA analysis has been done on them?

Yes, in the first post on this thread I posted a couple of images from relevant dna tests. There is one in particular that speaks to the dna of Tutankhamen. As I corrected myself in my last post, they were -RH.

Does anything in the Ahkenaten genetic information address this issue?
What race (or species) of people were they?

According to the DNA test completed by DNATribes, they are most closely related to people from South Africa and Central Africa.

If you would see them today, they would be brown to black-skinned. They would not be called white or European by any stretch of the imagination. Here is the pdf document describing their research and results, entitled, Last of the Amarna Pharaohs: King Tut and His Relatives (http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf).

According to that document: "The end of the Amarna period marked the conclusion of the Thutmosid 18th Dynasty of Egypt. King Tut and his relatives were to be the last descendants of one of the ancient pharaonic families, sometimes said to have ancestral links with the Land of Punt (near the Horn of Africa)"

Were they human?

I find myself falling along the same lines of understanding as more and more these days. That "human" is a very broad term and that humans actually exist throughout the galaxy at least and probably the universe. That this form that we hold today is recognizable wherever you go around creation. So I would say yes, they were human. They could certainly interbreed, with a bit of help from technology.

Is this the Anunnaki or some hybrid thereof?
Is the elongated skull a characteristic of the star family you refer to?

I am a bit down on the Anunnaki stuff these days. I was an early proponent of Sitchin's work, having read the books as they were actually being published, from the early 80s on up until he passed. While I do still hold that the Anunnaki contributed to the genetic material of the current human family, and that the also installed some control mechanisms in the homo sapien genome in order to keep us from accessing many of our higher abilities, I do not believe that the Anunnaki were the first of the extraterrestrial races to combine their dna with the people they found here on this planet. The elongated skull is, most probably, indicative of a closer genetic relationship with the earliest representatives of those races.

I have read before that Akhenaton was Sirian. I do not know this as a matter of fact.

If I've read the various posts correctly, it seems to be saying that Obama may be a reincarnation (or perhaps carries some of the bloodline) of Ahkenaten, who defied the normal way of doing things and upset all the tenets of Egyptian society (the pyramid society / priests), establishing the first one-god / government. Obama carries the bloodline of the coneheads?

Yes, that does seem to be how the stream of genetic continuity is manifesting itself in the modern day. It is possible that, since past patterns repeat themselves in a cyclic manner, that Obama may be a modern day version of the pharoah, Akhenaton. Many people carry the bloodline of the coneheads.

Naste suggests that Ahkenaten was a peacenik who espoused a kinder, gentler world.
Gripreaper suggests that Ahkenaten helped kill off the feminine and was forefather to the patriarchal system we have today, "all run by the psychopathic ruling elite alien interlopers."

Wow. If that isn't confusing! A peacenik psychopathic alien interloper. (I don't think I've ever heard the word psychopath used to refer to a peaceful person. "Psychopathically peaceful" - has a weird ring to it.)

LOL Yeh it all does. I respect both Naste and Grip's opinions on this topic as they are both knowledgeable and have a lot of information to bring to the table in regards to this topic. We do know that paradox is actually the norm, not the exception and that two extremes are expressions of the same phenomenon, as per the hermetic principles. So it is possible that both are true at the same time.

This is something that I do know: that, from without, from the outside perspective, it is often difficult to tell the difference between enlightenment and psychopathy.

We look back on the God-Kings and Queens and we think they were just people. But we don't recall the context, that these people have undergone rites and rituals that were designed to inculcate an enlightened perspective from the earliest ages. These ancient civilizations are still barely understandable today. We think we know them, we think we can read their writings, but, in all actuality, the nuances of the hieroglyphic system is as great a barrier to understanding as the nuances between mono and polytonal languages today, i.e. Chinese vs. English, any African language vs. Spanish, in general, indoeuropean vs. Asiatic, MesoAmerican or African language groups. So many variations, where one word means many things, similiarly, one hieroglyph (a picture represents a thousand words) represents many different meanings, all contextually derived.

Rahkyt, I love your exposition and I've enjoyed reading the various posts. But can you put it together in simple words for me? :)

There are patterns that repeat constantly. One is the pattern of civilizations, another is the pattern of incarnation. We may be in the midst of an ancient pattern currently manifesting around us, playing out a passion play from many thousands of years ago on the modern stage. Obama as POTUS may represent the figure Akhenaton who was incarnate at a similarly transitional stage in world history.

Simple enough? :)

Mark

29th November 2014, 01:06

Its an honor to share the moment.

Yes. Gotta appreciate this gathering of souls and minds on PA. A confluence of time and space indeed. Synchronicitous and meaningful in the deepest of ways.

The bee in my bonnet flies around this question of the elongated skulls. Of course, we can't judge anything from statuary, drawings, or carvings that represent these various people -- we need the skeletons.

The Amarna Pharoahs, including Akhenaton and Tut, were actually out-of-character for the time period. Their representations were physically accurate, in fact. The statuary has been commented upon extensively for the extraordinarily realistic depictions of the rules. When depicting Akhenaton for instance, he has those wide hips and a paunch, kind of a bit of a belly there, right? And that certainly is not a good look, not what you'd expect from a painter or sculptor who was depicting an image of a vain God-King whose likeness was being recorded for the Ages!

What that tells me is that there were specific instructions, on the part of Akhenaton at least, to depict him accurately, perhaps in order to create this very record that shows that they did not look like normal humans of those or these times. Also note that Akhenaton was also depicted as being much larger in size than normal humans. What if that were true as well?

What all this is saying to me is that at least 3,500 years ago there were people with overt alien biology ruling Egypt. I wish I could, but I can't take on the research to follow the lines back as far as skeletal evidence exists, to get an idea how long this has been going on.

If the coneheads bred with roundheads often enough and the roundhead biology became dominant, what happened to the extra brains that must have been (might have been) in those elongated skulls?

It would seem to me that as brain capacity diminished so did abilities. As further interbreeding with what you call "roundheads" occurred, the abilities of Akhenaton and his genetic line would have been watered down.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/conehead6_zpseb854058.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/conehead7_zps017d126a.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/conehead2_zpsfc95202d.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/conehead1_zps4d8ec978.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/conehead5_zps75001a40.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/conehead3_zpse82ef54d.jpg

Perhaps some of the above images can in part be attributed to the tradition of binding the head. I don't think so personally, but for the detractors and skeptics out there, sure. Note the extra skull capacity and the corresponding greater brain size. Even if you account for traditional binding, these ladies generally have bigger brains than most of us. I wonder what it would be like to interact with them.

All of this has to do with Obama, this world at this moment, and what an Obama bloodline connection to Ahkenaten might possibly mean. If he represents the idea of revenge, are we seeing the revenge of the coneheads against the roundheads? The revenge of the (Anunnaki?) against ___________?

I do not know about the revenge scenario myself. I do not see it that way.

You'll have to pardon me for saying that I find most of the potential scenarios put forth here rather stupid. My teachers have said that if we are to progress spiritually, we must OVERCOME OUR BIOLOGY, including our inbred biases as Rahkyt has described, as well as our lust for witless sex, procreation, and violence.

Indeed.

Rahkyt: "It is a difficult thing to recognize wrong, and to still be programmed to act along the lines of commonly-held perspectives." True. Unless you can stand back and say "Wait a minute..." Many here on Avalon must be saying that quite a bit, especially as so many inbred biases are held up to us and we are expected to mindlessly salute.

Yeh...this is one of the reasons why I continue to post here on PA. So many individuals of elevated perspective, while keeping it real. Being grounded in the world around us, even subject to many of the same stimuli as those who may be considered to be sleeping still in regards to many of these topics.

To my mind, none of that matters. Awakened, sleeping, stirring fitfully, none of it.

We have eternity. So everybody's in the game, really.

:wizard:

naste.de.lumina

29th November 2014, 11:36

Hi Rahkyt.
Continuing the discussion on this puzzle.

Amarna, the capital created by Akhenaten and Nefertiti seems to have been a total break of experience with the 'pyramid' establishment of power.

Decree to free all the slaves is not good for business.

The intentional orthodox narrative tax Akhenaten like crazy that almost destroyed an empire. I understand your reasons while not agreeing.

Hi Naste, what do you mean by the above, in regards to you not agreeing?

In this case I'm understanding that amarna meant a break with the pyramidal hierarchical model of control and power.

I wanted to say that I understand the reasons for the dark cabal attempt to hide the experience put into practice by akhenaten, with the deconstruction of what has been tried in amarna city.

And If this is the case, I do not agree with the cover-up and much less with the reasons for the same.

Needless to say, if this attempt to meet the basic needs to enable the human / spiritual development of all people, should not have been a popular idea among the ruling classes in whatever dimension which it is found.

This experience ended in a massacre of most amarna residents and the re-establishment of the ancient capital and their owners. I can not say I'm surprised at this end.

Again, it is very possible that Akhenaton was Moses. If that is so, than the "official" recounting of what occurred there might have been somewhat staged in order to present the facade of the "old order" totally obliterating the "new order".

I will work with the two possibilities that seem most plausible at what already raised in previous posts (there may be other possibilities, I'm not closing doors):

1 - If Akhenaten (conehead) was Moses, at some point after their escape/exit from Egypt, he and his descendants (coneheads): or were eliminated, or had problems in the continuity of their species or also decided to disappear from view and command from behind the cenes.

2 - Akhenaten and his descendants (coneheads) were eliminated by roundhead that replaced the reign of Egypt.

In both cases they (coneheads) apparently disappeared And who proceeded to give the cards, at least 'apparently' (I will return to this point in the completion of this post) were the roundheads.

Including the roundheads being able to be puppets of other forces, perhaps even the Anunnakis (Having found undesirable survivors after the great flood (coneheads)). In this case the Anunnaki used the roundheads as cover to eliminate a possible most dangerous competition to their plans, the coneheads (I'm imagining that coneheads possessed greater mental capacity than roundheads).

I also would not be surprised to find that they have the knowledge (I think this question is all about frequency, vibration and phase) that gives them some sort of control over souls and reincarnation on certain bloodlines. The same souls reincarnate in rh bodies, with capacity of memories and use both sides of the brain? A continuum of memories comes in handy when it comes to envisioning strategies for millennia.

These people were not -RH. Those who resemble them most closely today are also not -RH negative. If that is the case, that souls reincarnate in the same genetic lines over time, then they would not reincarnate in -RH bodies because they were not part of that genetic heritage.

UPDATE: They were -RH. Obama is also -RH.

These are some of the reasons that made me assume that there may be some kind of revenge. Why else would the dark cabal would be bringing back a personality that caused them so much hassle and 'fear' in the past? After all he was the king.

But I can also be wrong.

We can all be very wrong and that is ok. :)

It is the query, the exploration that is important.

In regards to the dark cabal bringing him back, what if, he was coming back anyway? Outside of their control?

What if they knew this? And if all of their efforts since, have been the attempt to control something that was going to occur whether they had any say in the matter at all?

And what if, in the end, it all ends up being beyond their control? If any of these potentialities have even the slightest validity, then we are looking at a series of energies and events that are so large that they are beyond the ability of human-based agency, no matter how powerful and pervasive, to control.

http://api.ning.com/files/NweBAwsReLrHv5NibSFSPrpOPrQZRHiZICRhNNMToxz26Z8IXwv9Y0EWzrXlifmhotnlzS8smjshmP5huxQDhotWEFv9sWx2/TheEliteFamilyTree.jpg

My reasoning is based on the possibility that Obama's bloodline shown in the image above is correct.

In this case President Obama would be a mixture of -Rh the current dark cabal (bloodline of his mother) and lineage (extraction of genes found mummies) of akhenaten line (a failure in this case is the current obama roundhead (I can not explain except in terms of genetic knowledge control by the dark cabal)).

Who would have, 50 years ago (+ or - based on the age of President Obama) the ability / power to access the ancient Egypt mummies genes and mainly to have human cloning technology? 50 years ago the genetics technology 'officially' was crawling. Dark cabal probably would. Moreover, it would also be able to put Obama on top of the American political pyramid. When thinking of possibilities more 'earthly' the dark cabal would be practically the only one with the skills and resources needed to materialize this reality.

I am also not sure of the number of groups of individuals 'embodied' fighting for the total control.

Former World Bank Senior Council Says A “Second Species” On Earth Controls Money & Religion (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/28/former-world-bank-senior-council-says-a-second-species-on-earth-controls-money-religion/)

This statement made by ex - lawyer of the World Bank Karen Hudes, would make sense if akhenaten (biblical Moses - God Aton - One God - Jewish God ref. above) and his descendants began to call the shots behind the scenes as I suggested in earlier hypotheses above. And she referred specifically to a species of conehead.

Karen Hudes says the cross between the coneheads and roundheads produces a hybrid that can not reproduce. So, from that perspective and if it really is right on this issue, dilution of the coneheads through crossbreeding generations would not be possible. According to this logic, the coneheads should still have coneheads if they currently exist. Or perhaps an intermediary between the two.

What she says and what is real can be very different or not. No way to know. But we have to work with something.

I will expose all the thoughts that come to my mind (roundhead).

DNA Analysis of Paracas Elongated Skulls Released: Unknown To Any Human, Primate, or Animal (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/02/12/dna-analysis-of-paracas-elongated-skulls-released-unknown-to-any-human-primate-or-animal/)

I think if there was a dilution of the species type between coneheads and roundheads, these results would be different. Of course, always considering what is being reported is correct.

I am also considering that Egypt coneheads are relatives of Paracas coneheads in south america, which the DNA tests were performed.

So in that case Karen Hudes seems to have passed the correct information.

Or she is trying to put the blame on the victims (consciously or unconsciously) of real owners of 'humanity on planet earth', since the elongated skulls appeared and it is necessary to put them in some way as a fact of reality.

In short, the database used to reach the conclusion that does not match the DNA of any known species on the planet, can be 'outdated'. But if not, and if they did not acquire technology that solves this problem, it means that no miscegenation. If they are alive then we can expect coneheads / Intermediaries walking around, but they can also be hidden. Otherwise it will be much more complicated if there was miscegenation.

Some time ago someone posted here in PA a topic presenting a apparent banal story about education in kentucky. (http://www.kentucky.com/2014/10/03/3460436_education-commissioner-says-kentucky.html?sp=/99/322/&rh=1)

Notice the left two girls. The second, with a headband on his head. The first child also has his head a little strange.

http://media.kentucky.com/smedia/2014/10/03/00/01/uquFB.AuSt.79.jpeg

At least suspect.

Even when we took the focus on Obama be akhenaten on the subject, we still have many mysteries and important insights into a key part of our origin and our current situation.

I am in full agreement with the final questions that you brought up and I not have answers for them unless we may be witnessing of something very unique and exceptional.

Hugs.

Naste.

naste.de.lumina

29th November 2014, 13:40

Hi again doodah.

Looks like we found a common stimulus frequency. That's the beauty of free transfer of information.

If you read my post 47 as a complement to that, I think the line of reasoning will be a little clearer.

...
Who cited a possible revenge was me and not Rahkyt. I also have no evidence for this possibility unless my intuition based on questions that were created in my mind as the pieces of this information came to me. I could be completely wrong about that.

Said that, I found very interesting the result of the research you did on the two dynasties, Amenhotep and Ramses.

From what I understand, you are assuming that the coneheads are the Anunnakis (I'm considering Anunnakis these historically identified by zacharias sitchin). If this were the case, it means that at some point the roundheads were superimposed on the Anunnakis who ruled Egypt since long before.

Hi Naste ... Interesting comments! And thanks for clarifying about the "revenge" aspect.

I'm not really assuming the coneheads were the Anunnaki, just asking if they might have been? I agree with you, the coneheads might have been another race. What has more or less flabbergasted me is realizing that we have physical evidence (in the form of skeletons) that the coneheads were ruling Egypt not that long ago. 3,500 years ago is not so long ago. It's within our historical record; we have recorded information from that time in the form of hieroglyphs - IF the dating of the Egyptian dynasties is accurate, that is. (another research project needed to understand how this dating was done)

If the coneheads are part of Obama's line, how did the conehead lineage disperse throughout the entire Earth "human" population and what is left in the DNA that would be markers for conehead lineage today?

... who ruled Egypt since long before
Yes, I wonder how far back it goes. This is where the skeletons are needed as proof.

Following the line of reasoning of my previous posts, I think it would be possible Obama have part of the bloodline of the coneheads by capture and genetic manipulation of the mummies found in ancient Egypt.

While the impressive physical appearance (face), the akhenaten similarity in this particular case. Do not forget that this man (Obama) came out of nowhere for the presidency of the USA. Meteoric policy ascension.

This video is an example of how it could have happened. Not necessarily occurred in this way, if it occurred at all. The video is an analogy.
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... But if the coneheads not are the 'Anunnaki' but another race? Probably would flood remaining. Saqqara is considered the oldest post-flood pyramid to be built, supposedly by Imhotep (that who comes in peace), also known as Hermes Trismegistus (three times genius), father of medicine, architecture and 'magic' (or technology?). Conehead?

http://www.everythingselectric.com/images/mythology/egyptian-elongated-skulls-statues.jpg
Wow ... thanks for presenting this information. Certainly looks like a conehead to me. Later on, the alchemists revered this person and wished they knew what he had known. I see that the photo reference is called "mythology." If we've got elongated skulls as physical evidence, this is not mythology, it's fact that some unnamed race (or species) was on this planet not that long ago.

There is a documentary called the The Horus Eye launched in 2000 and based on the investigations of the Egyptologist and mathematician RA Schwaller de Lubicz, postulates that saqqara was a quantum machine. A free energy generating plant for various purposes. Including resonance cameras at various levels that helped the initiates to come into contact with other realities of existence in higher frequencies.

According to the documentary, Atlantis survivors wise would be responsible for the birth of the Egyptian nation.

Naste, do you know if anyone has written the book that pulls all this together -- roundheads/ coneheads/ who these various people WERE and where they came from?

doodah, i do not know if something in this particular sense (conehead / roundhead) has been researched. I'll have to find the time to make a detailed examination of this issue.

The transition between Amenhotep dynasties (Ay was the last) and Ramses occurred through the General Horemheb. According to the website of the Brazilian researcher Marcia Jamille Costa (http://arqueologiaegipcia.com.br/2012/10/05/a-analise-dos-talatats-de-akhenaton/),

You raised an interesting hare. I need more research and time to organize this new information in context.

Yes, this is tremendously interesting. Maybe we need a whole new thread to go into depth on this if it isn't already written in a book somewhere. The genetics are only part of Rahkyt's thesis ... but as I'm reading it, the genetics may be the major part, especially ... read your PS below! (I assume you wrote that as a joke? But I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it's true.)

Hugs.

Naste.

P.S.:
So when some of these coneheads skulls are investigated more deeply through DNA testing, appears a World Bank's advocate Karen Hudes with the 'news' that the real drivers of the world economy are the remaining coneheads that keeps hidden until today.

How does all this fit in?

hehehe. I understand your disbelief, especially if you did not get that piece of information when it's was put out in early 2014. As incredible as it may seem, is not a joke. See the video below:

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There are many pieces of the puzzle that we already have to be put together. I wonder how many pieces missing taking into account that we are dealing with at least 6,000 years of history with cover-ups and manipulations.

I agree with you about the possibility of a new thread, specifically talking about conehead, roundhead, origins and conflicts between these species, Egypt and also the elongated skulls found in South America (I think that this 'detail' is very significant).

I would like to know the opinion of Rahkyt, as the author of this topic is his the priority to the direction that the topic should follow

Big hug.

Naste.

P.S.: The way of thinking of the words and phrases structures are very different between Portuguese (my native language) and English. Then, the result may be confuse when I express my reasoning in a more elaborate way.

I think a few more inches of skull would help solve this problem more effectively.:party:

doodah

30th November 2014, 06:01

Rahkyt, thanks for the simplification of your thesis - yes, I followed that but got confused by Naste's idea of revenge and the discussion around that idea.

Thanks for those photos in #46 above. Those are pretty amazing. Although I was aware of the Egyptian and Peruvian skeletons with elongated skulls, I really was not aware that there are living modern-day people with such skulls. You mention that the shape of these skulls could be the result of head-boarding, the practice of binding the heads of infants between boards while the skull is still soft, to force the bone into this form. I am not aware that there are people doing this today but it is an anthropological question as to why this custom appeared in certain tribes in earlier centuries.

As I understand it, the difference between a "real" conehead skull and a head-boarded "roundhead" skull is the number and shape of the plates making up the cranium. Modern-day roundheaded people have 3 bony plates, or sections, in the skull; head-boarding can create the elongated shape but there are still 3 plates. "Real" coneheads have only 2 plates, another significant difference, along with brain size.

Another item for me to research is whether or not there has ever been a pharaoh's brain found in any tomb, in the mortuary jars that held the internal organs of mummies. It would be interesting to see if anything is known about the brains of the Amenhotep line (coneheads) including Ahkenaten and King Tut.

I was aware that depictions of Ahkenaten were faithfully lifelike but I was not aware that he was depicted as being larger in size than normal humans. Hm. Would you put him in the class of "giants"? Nefilim? Because of his rounded hips, it has been suggested that maybe he was hermaphroditic.

This topic is wandering all over the place! Especially after seeing the relationship chart Naste showed us in post #47 and her suggestion that Obama could have been genetically engineered from the DNA of (the Amenhotep??) mummies. I recall reading that the bodies of Ahkenaten and Nefertiti disappeared, there are no mummies, so there would be no direct Ahkenaten DNA. However, do you recall seeing photos of Obama's head which showed strange white lines in his hair? I think at the time conspiracy types were trying to suggest that he had had brain surgeries, perhaps to implant control devices. But now I wonder if he didn't have surgeries to remove his conehead and redistribute his brains into a rounder skull. :) Sorry, Rahkyt, I couldn't help myself, no disrespect intended to this very fascinating topic you raised here.

Naste -- that's very funny -- the Karen Hudes reference you made that I thought was a joke! I am behind the times. She actually said that? This is getting a lot weirder.

I agree that Rahkyt should decide if we need to take all the conehead / roundhead discussion to another thread. But I'm also finding that discussing all this in the context of Obama puts a spin on it that is very fascinating.

naste.de.lumina

30th November 2014, 14:36

Hi to all.

Doing a little search on the net to pursue the matter, I found some interesting things that could form the basis for a future line of research.

It seems to me that this line meets the narrative proposed by our friend @gripreaper.

But first let's see some images of skulls supposed to be Akhenaten and his son Tutankhamun. And then the news (for us of course).

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The occupant of the 'mystery tomb' of the Valley of the Kings (KV 55 Wiki ref. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KV55)) is now said to be Akenaten - based on DNA testing which indicated he was was the son of Amenhotep III and the father of Tutankhamun, and that his 'age-at-death' was consistent with Akenaten's estimated demise.

Below - c-scan comparison of his skull (top two), from KV 55, compared with Tutankhamun's (bottom two).

http://www.perceptions.couk.com/imgs/scan-mummy-kv55.jpg

Source: http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.ca/2013/03/mysterious-elongated-skulls-throughout.html
P.S.: The link contains a lot more details.
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The House of Este. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Este)

Today’s elitist families and royalty are related to an early European family known as the Este’s.

Around 900 CE, a mysterious family group appeared in southern Europe. They early on assumed the name of 'The House of Este’.

First recorded in Lombardy, the Este’s quickly seized positions of power in several other states, eventually becoming 'owners of Europe' – through their more recent descendants. And maybe of Russia too.

File:Coat of arms of the House of Este (1535) (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_the_House_of_Este_(1535).svg)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Coat_of_arms_of_the_House_of_Este_%281535%29.svg/248px-Coat_of_arms_of_the_House_of_Este_%281535%29.svg.png

The House of Este was a family of Italian nobility, who held the title Duke of Modena. They are the ancestors of many royal houses.

British royalty

All British monarchs since George I of the United Kingdom have been descended from the House of Este. George's father, Ernst August, was a member of the house of Welf, who are descended from the House of Este.

Also, the Jacobite "pretenders" James Francis Edward Stuart, Charles Edward Stuart and Henry Benedict Stuart were descended from the House of Este. This was due to the mother of James Francis Edward, a Modenese princess, Mary Beatrice d'Este.

The following British consorts are also descendants of the House of Este-

Queen Mary Beatrice (Mary Beatrice d'Este) (1658- 1718), the wife of James II of England, who was also James VII of Scotland (reigned 1685- 1688).

Queen Caroline (Caroline of Brunswick) (1768- 1820), the wife of George IV of the United Kingdom(reigned 1820- 1830), as her mother was the sister of George III of the United Kingdom.

Queen Alexandra (Alexandra of Denmark) (1844- 1925), the wife of Edward VII of the United Kingdom (reigned 1901- 1910), as her mother's family, the German princely house of Hesse- Cassel, were descendants of George II of the United Kingdom.

Queen Mary (Mary of Teck) (1867- 1953), the wife of George V of the United Kingdom (reigned 1910- 1936, was the great- grand- daughter of George III.

Philip (b. 1921), the husband of the reigning queen, Elizabeth II (reigning since 1952) is a descendant of Queen Victoria's. Also, his grandfather was the brother of Queen Alexandra.

OtherEdit
As descendants of Queen Victoria, the royal families of Norway, Sweden, Spain (through the paternal grandmothers of the reigning kings), and Denmark (through the present queen's mother).

Source: http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_descendants_of_the_House_of_Este
P.S.: Many links on the page source

Sort-of cousins Ginevra & Leonello d'Este - c. 1435-1445
http://www.perceptions.couk.com/imgs/Ginevra-d%27Este.jpghttp://www.perceptions.couk.com/imgs/Leonello-d%27Este.jpg

Medal of Leonello d'Este, 1444
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ESC4bygtp2M/SNi8Z1mRyHI/AAAAAAAAEmQ/NBmYm0q_NJU/s400/Pisanello+Medal+of+Leonello+d%27Este+(obverse+and+reverse)+1444.jpg

Medal of Leonello d'Este (1441-44)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6089/6059304141_77231d244d_m.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6205/6059855534_459dcf8257_m.jpg

Isote Ariminensi Forma et Virtute Italie Decori, 1446 (http://www.medals4trade.com/collections/displayimage.php?album=1128&pos=3)
http://www.medals4trade.com/collections/albums/userpics/10001/Pisanello%2C_ISOTE_ARIMINENSI_FORMA_ET_VIRTVTE_ITALIE_DECORI%2C_1446.jpg

An artist's impression based on a Paracas skull
http://www.paranormalpeopleonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/elongated-skull-artistic.jpg

There is a limit of 9 images to be included in a single post in PA, so I close this post here. But already it showed me that there seems to be a concrete link between the coneheads with the old and current European nobility.

If this hypothesis prove correct to means that probably there was a mix, because the current descendants of the royal families do not have conehead. At least those who appear in public.

In this link you can check skulls coneheads found in various parts of the world. (http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.ca/2013/03/mysterious-elongated-skulls-throughout.html)

This deep rabbit hole is just beginning to be exposed.

Naste.

UPDATE
Certainly I have to adapt my ideas to this new information.

If the above information is confirmed, It seems palusivel say that there is a good chance of substantially of the Western paradigm: health / financial / religious / scientific / courts/, ie, a western slave mentality is direct scription of coneheads and their descendants who in turn, is a species of hominid with different origin of homo roundheads sapiens sapiens.

Many questions arise with this narrative.

Mark

30th November 2014, 21:11

From what I understand, you are assuming that the coneheads are the Anunnakis (I'm considering Anunnakis these historically identified by zacharias sitchin). If this were the case, it means that at some point the roundheads were superimposed on the Anunnakis who ruled Egypt since long before.

The Amarna/Akhenaton-Tutankhamen dynasty was considered to be very old, yes, one of the oldest dynastic lines in Egypt. If we follow the reasoning of the Anunnaki tale as laid out by Sitchin and followed by rote in the time since he wrote his Earth Chronicles then the "roundheads" were the Adam that the Anunnaki created and all hybridization that has occurred since then has been the dissolution of the pure Anunnaki strain by interbreeding with the created, Adam strain.

And apparently the roundheads were gaining power and great influence in the control of the empire, as Akhenaten built another capital to be able to get away from them.

Sheer numbers and the prevalence of the Adamic people would, over time, integrate the Anunnaki genetic strain as more and more hybridization occurred, hence, the royal propensity to keep their lines as pure as possible by breeding with others who share the same genetics. More and more difficult as time passes and the original strain is hybridized. Akhenaton was not killed by the priestly Caste. Any evidence that his body has ever been found remains flimsy. I do not know of any instances in the recorded history of the early dynasties where a Pharaoh was murdered until, perhaps, Tut, and one of the Ramesses that followed. These dynasties really spelled the end of what many consider to be the era of Divine Rule, when the Pharaohs were actually considered to be true God-Kings.

There is a documentary called the The Horus Eye launched in 2000 and based on the investigations of the Egyptologist and mathematician RA Schwaller de Lubicz, postulates that saqqara was a quantum machine. A free energy generating plant for various purposes. Including resonance cameras at various levels that helped the initiates to come into contact with other realities of existence in higher frequencies.

I tend to believe it was an Ascension Device as well. This makes sense. It martials the energies of the planet and channels it toward the appropriate constellations as they were at the time of its construction.

So when some of these coneheads skulls are investigated more deeply through DNA testing, appears a World Bank's advocate Karen Hudes with the 'news' that the real drivers of the world economy are the remaining coneheads that keeps hidden until today.

I do not know Hudes work. Although Sitchin pointedly did not address the current status of the Anunnaki as potentially affecting the world situation in the modern era, more recent writers who have taken up his research state that most of the Anunnaki left within the last 1,000 years or so but that Marduk and perhaps 1-300 remained here on earth. Some call them the "Tall Whites", although I view that designation with the same skepticism with which I view much of the "official" unofficial recounting of extraterrestrial agendas these days in the New Age alternative news propaganda machine.

Mark

30th November 2014, 21:17

Perhaps, together, we can make some sense out of this mess, eh?

No doubt that this is the goal my friend but I'm afraid to be fleeing the topic. It's not intentional.

Hi Naste, Doodah, RUSirius and others, I'd like to take the opportunity to THANK YOU ALL for continuing to explore these issues and bring up these very relevant topics for consideration. I'll say this now in response to comments I've seen from both of you in later posts (I'm moving slow, sorry, trying to catch up) in regards to starting a new thread.

When I wrote the original article, it included these strains, which I did not have the time to explore more directly as the article was already getting pretty long so they are implicit within the original article and the OP of this thread.

There are no topics that are off-limits in this thread in regards to these ancient racial delineations, the Anunnaki, any other star-seed lineage, politics, culture, biology, physics, all of it is included and so this discussion should be far-ranging and covering many topics, all of which do indeed coalesce under this broad and holistic exploration of why the world is today and who these people are who presume to control the fate of oceanic humanity.

I'm surprised we haven't gotten back into Nazi International yet but I expect that topic will arise soon enough, as it is SO relevant, especially when considering Obama directly and where the United States is heading currently.

Thanks for your time y'all. To me, there are few topics more interesting then this one. Sifting through the known and barely-known in order to unearth treasures of this type is necessary. And that is how I perceive this thread and the work that you all are contributing.

:wizard:

Mark

30th November 2014, 22:10

Thanks you Rahkyt for your knowledge and wisdom.

Hi PathWalker, thank you so much for contributing to the thread. Glad to see you! :)

I am curious to the bone about the subjects you elaborate. And have nothing to contribute.:(

Haha nice prelude to your wonderful contribution.

I wish to learn more about the Jesuit faction and the Judaic faction, and the dynamics. In a historic manner as you provide.
Are they dichotomy? Are more factions involved?

There are many, many sources out there that talk about the Jesuits, how they formed and what they represent, who the Black Pope (http://warningilluminati.wordpress.com/the-most-powerful-man-in-the-world-the-black-pope/) is, how they have contributed to wars and rumors of wars, perhaps the suppression of the natural journey into knowledge that the human family is on and how they interfaced with the Nazis during WWII (http://www.spirituallysmart.com/nazi.html). The same is true of the Judaic faction, ranging from the Diaspora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora), to the Khazar adoptation of Judaism and limited genetic interaction (http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/), the evolution of the world economic system i.e. the stereotyped connections of race and money (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/books/review/Rampell-t.html), the Rothschilds and Hitler as grandson of Baron Rothschild (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_rothschild04.htm). This is where they coalesce for our purposes, in that comingling of interest between the Vatican and the Synagogue in the Transfer Agreement (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06/17/transfer-agreement-hitler-jews-germany/) and the world that has evolved since that time culminating in our current situation with Obama as POTUS.

I do not see them as a dichotomy, no, because I see this as a multidimensional affair. There are infinite interests involved in our current world situation and uncountable threads coalesce in the formation of each experience. This is true for us individual and it is equally as true for the world as a whole. There are many more factions involved, ranging from all of the disparate Controller interests to the extraterrestrial factions, the star-seed cousins and extended family, as well as their hybridized relatives down here on Terra. So many perhaps they cannot be counted, but they are all actively contributing to the continuing evolution of the lived situation.

Perhaps it would be easier to consider the interests from the national perspective, which is why I view Obama as the focal point in order to bring them all together. How are they connected through him? How are these greater interests expressed through his interaction with the world? The world's perceptions and interactions with him? Our collective American response to Obama and our sub-group response? What do these perspectives tell us about who he must be? What his purpose is?

Maybe someone can open a thread about this? In order to avoid more distraction I stop here.

No distraction and please don't stop, PathWalker. I look forward to your comments on what I have shared above, as well as any other thoughts you may have or ideas you may want to bring forward. Don't be a stranger or feel shy.

Mark

30th November 2014, 22:58

I have read this thread now though, and it has been a very interesting read, indeed! Thanks so much Rahkyt, for your informed insights, especially.

Thank you, Onawah, for taking the time to comment. Presence is all. :)

I don't have a lot to contribute, but Obama has been a subject of much fascination for me, and I agree that he seems to be as much a potential Wild Card as Manchurian Candidate.

The Manchurian/Monarch/Bourne Identity is so prevalent throughout our society these days. Through the MSM in the form of movies and television shows, we are well aware of the presence of individuals in our society who have been programmed by ulterior motive factions to influence the world around them. These individuals exist at every, single level of societal production. I know some. You may as well. From the gutter to the boardroom to the TV screen to the halls of power, they are there, here.

The wild card aspect is something that exists as a potentiality within each one of these programmed individuals. Their Alters are not inviolate, they can be removed by others, these folks can be deprogrammed. But, most importantly, they can do it themselves.

I think Obama as shown many signs of independent agency. Of engaging in thoughtful and non-programmatic "excesses" that have alarmed those who seek to control him. I think his full adherence to certain agendas is in question, as is his ultimate loyalty. This said as Ferguson passes from the MSM radar and the President's two statements on it continue to disappoint Progressive and minority interests, who continue to see him as a disappointment and a cause-oriented failure.

It will certainly be interesting to see how he lives out this lifetime, particularly the next few years (provided he survives them!).

It will indeed. As stated in my original article, the OP of this thread, I believe that the assassination meme is still an option. But one of very last resort. If they can accomplish their aims by any other means, they will do so. It remains my contention that they wish to control for localized eruptions of chaos and violence as just occurred in Ferguson. The multiracial nature of our society, the love for Obama which - despite the opinions of some here - does transcend racial/ethnic groups, will be stoked perhaps beyond their perceptive ability to control for by any perceived attempt on his life. Controlling blacks, already concentrated in urban areas designed for efficient isolation and lock-down, is only one facet of the problem. The anti-racist meme, strong and valid, is also vibrant and aggressive. John Browns exist today and many will not hesitate to die for a cause. And these will be people who do not necessarily fit into the Controller schema, or who may not have been accounted for and predicated against by their multivariate probability modeling.

Simon Parkes doesn't have a favorable opinion of Obama, but I am going to recommend to him that he read this thread; perhaps he will have something to share, and possibly it may cause some revision in his perspective...
Something else that Simon has commented on that is a part of this discussion, though it has played only a minor part so far, is the ET factor and also the cosmic factor.

I must confess I have not spent much time in Simon's thread. I have seen it mentioned in quite a few places though. Perhaps the length of it has been daunting to me. I must visit and read further, as it always comes so highly recommended by people I respect.

He thinks that what he calls the "meta gene" is going to play a big part in the play for human sovereignty on Earth, and by that I think he means the natural genetic mutation that occurs when the cosmos is ready for sentient beings to take a leap in evolution.
There is certainly evidence of this in incoming generations, though they certainly also have their hands full in dealing with their planetary "inheritance".

I expect this is where I am coming from in this thread as well. While agreeing with GripReaper that the Controller factions do indeed seem to have a lock on the proability modeling, control of the advanced technology, they cannot win. My insistence on such seems, in a sense, to be faith-based and perhaps it can be accurately defined as such. But at the same time, that faith is based on my absolute knowing that there are greater powers than those who currently seek to control this planet can account for. And that these piddling plans must contribute to an even greater plan in the evolution of the human family, not only on this planet or in this solar system but across the galaxy and greater universe.

Does Simon believe that this "meta gene" is currently expressing in the human family? Is this related to the insistence of some in the alternative community that the human genome is mutating? Going from 12-strand to something greater (http://humansarefree.com/2011/04/amazing-scientists-our-dna-is-mutating.html)? I have not yet seen any convincing scientific evidence of this but I am not ruling it out.

And, as many others have conjectured, there does seem to be a fair amount of interest on the part of pro-human ET alliances in seeing that humans will have more sovereignty, to the point of being willing to actually take some part in the process.

Ok. I have read a lot on the presence of ET alliances and have also participated in discussions and work pertaining to this end. I worked with Drake (http://americannationalmilitia.com) at one point, alongside Tanaath of the Silver Legion (http://www.silverlegion.org) and a team of others with similar abilities. It was interesting and instructive. I am one that also has some contact with star family and other consciousness collectives. I do not advertise that and my participation in the dissemination of agendas is minimal these days.

I think perhaps the real "x factor" is not going to be so much what Obama or his handlers do, but what the ETs do and what the cosmos itself has up its sleeve for us... But Obama is certainly a fulcrum in this process, and I think we can continue to learn a lot just by watching him.

I agree 100% that it is up to forces beyond this planet, ultimately, on one side, but at the same time, the paradox is true as well. That it is up to each and every one of us.

And watch him we will, Onawah, from whatever perspectives we each hold, as the world shifts around us and we shift with it.

onawah

1st December 2014, 00:36

Thanks again Rahkyt. I like a similar saying from the Michael Teachings, in reference to Old Souls, to whom "Essence is All".
That is, rather than relying on a lot of incremental facts to lay the foundation of one's premise, the tendency is to go intuitively right to the heart of the matter, which I like and which you have done.

(And, speaking of the Michael Teachings, there may be some perspectives of interest about Obama here:
http://personalityspirituality.net/2009/09/07/the-soul-of-barack-obama/
and here:
http://www.michaelteachings.com/featured-obama.html
While there is a bit of an overload of speculative information, it seems to be generally agreed upon by many of the Michael channelers that Obama is operating at the level of a Mature Soul, and knowing that may help to render his ultimate impact a little more predictable, I think.)

There is indeed a lot of information to wade through on Simon's thread, but I think you will find it worth your while, and you can probably skim through a lot of it.
Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have as much time to be with us here on Avalon these days; nevertheless, he has contributed a wealth of info.
The problem has been (for me, at least) the fact that his remarks are very sparing and brief and he doesn't often go into a lot of detail except on certain subjects such as his childhood, etc.
I would hazard a guess that such are the things that he feels the general public still need to know until they are ready to take a bigger step.
And I think he is doing that so as to lay groundwork that will help to prevent a takeover of governance by hostile forces when things will soon be most open to change, and I have to respect that.
But he is creating his own website now and presumably will have help with that, so his dyslexia should not be as much of a factor, and I am hoping that will provide opportunities to go into greater depth on subjects that are a bit more advanced and so of greater interest to Avalonians.

In any case, it feels to me, if we can use a yoyo to illustrate, that we are approaching the very bottom of the string in our journey downward, and the yoyo is soon ( within the next couple of years) going to begin the inevitable, upward trajectory.
It's bound to be a wild ride, but hopefully there will be sufficient factors to help smooth the way.
http://0.tqn.com/y/inventors/1/L/C/r/1/AB24502-F.jpg

jerry

1st December 2014, 01:31

Mark

2nd December 2014, 02:23

I'm not really assuming the coneheads were the Anunnaki, just asking if they might have been? I agree with you, the coneheads might have been another race.

Many call the "Tall Whites" Anunnaki. I've seen that in numerous locations on the Internet and it seems to be the consensus. They apparently are at some military bases, interact with governments at the highest levels. Those that remain here are the minions of Marduk, son of Enki, it is, apparently, his time to rule Terra, according to the lore. If he is doing so uncontested is the real question. As the Anunnaki, according to the military whistleblower sources I've seen, are currently heavily aligned with secret government forces, read breakaway civilization/nazi international, they probably represent the "Ubermensh" that Nietsche wrote about and that Hitler swore he had seen. The perfect man.

What has more or less flabbergasted me is realizing that we have physical evidence (in the form of skeletons) that the coneheads were ruling Egypt not that long ago. 3,500 years ago is not so long ago. It's within our historical record; we have recorded information from that time in the form of hieroglyphs - IF the dating of the Egyptian dynasties is accurate, that is. (another research project needed to understand how this dating was done)

Probably radiocarbon dating to materials associated with rocks found in disparate biological strata, although they use uranium/thorium dating methods also these days. Both have their issues. Still, relatively accurate measurements can be made provided you don't go past 5500 years or more into the past.

I'm reading the Giza Death Star right now, so I've got pyramids on the mind and dating. For the pyramids, for instance, I'd imagine the process of dating those might be attempted by finding out where the rock comes from. The granite supposedly came from 800km distant, the limestone for the casing just across the Nile. They associate the pyramids with Khufu seemingly arbitrarily, there is no real evidence showing that he was the Pharaoh who began their construction.

Limestone contaminates radiocarbon dating, making artifacts appear older.

Many stela (the hieroglyphs) were made of limestone. They also use easily dated artifacts from other areas in a process of association. Their geographic distribution, the extrapolation of use, transcultural diffusion, etc.

All said to agree that dating remains every problematic but some things can be stated generally and held as standard.

If the coneheads are part of Obama's line, how did the conehead lineage disperse throughout the entire Earth "human" population and what is left in the DNA that would be markers for conehead lineage today?

Whenever I consider this question I consider the historical evidence and tales told across the world. Royalty always took women. Any woman, everywhere. People of privilege, of the preferred bloodlines, ie aristocrats, in every culture, always had access to women who would bear their children, thereby disseminating their seed and the royal blood.

They always attempted to keep their bloodlines pure by controlling aristocratic females and the children they bore, but there seems to have never been any kind of onus upon spreading the seed throughout the general population. The tales of the Fallen Angels, the Nephilim, are based upon the fact that the sons of god saw the daughters of men and thought them fair, so, in essence, these demi-gods came down to earth cause they wanted women.

There is a documentary called the The Horus Eye launched in 2000 and based on the investigations of the Egyptologist and mathematician RA Schwaller de Lubicz, postulates that saqqara was a quantum machine. A free energy generating plant for various purposes. Including resonance cameras at various levels that helped the initiates to come into contact with other realities of existence in higher frequencies.

Uh huh. I wonder. Or, it is the death star, a weapon of immense power.

The genetics are only part of Rahkyt's thesis ... but as I'm reading it, the genetics may be the major part, especially ...

Well, the genetics speak to the continuity of the control apparatus and the continuing presence of the controllers themselves, observing and continuing to manipulate the human herd for their own ends. If Sitchin's thesis is correct and we were modified by Enki and Ninhursag to be controlled telepathically and biologically and split so as not to give us access to higher capabilities of the mind and spirit, then their foremost task has been to make sure that spiritual evolution does not occur.

Many questions arise in regards to that issue. Those who speak to a "harvest" occurring may be on to something. Interestingly, this new movie, by the Wachowskis, that was referenced in another thread, Jupiter Ascending (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77561-Jupiter-Ascending--New-Wachowski-Film-), may be incorporating some of these issues that we are discussing here.

(...) when some of these coneheads skulls are investigated more deeply through DNA testing, appears a World Bank's advocate Karen Hudes with the 'news' that the real drivers of the world economy are the remaining coneheads that keeps hidden until today.

How does all this fit in?

Tall Whites, Anunnaki, aligned with Nazi International and seeking to implement eugenic genocidal models.

Which is interesting. As Marduk's father, according to the lore, Enki, was the one who actually cared for the Adam he had created. Was compassionate toward the new human. There must be more to this than that.

Mark

2nd December 2014, 03:45

Hi Rahkyt.
Continuing the discussion on this puzzle.

You're bringing great information to bear, thank you Naste.

In this case I'm understanding that amarna meant a break with the pyramidal hierarchical model of control and power.

I wanted to say that I understand the reasons for the dark cabal attempt to hide the experience put into practice by akhenaten, with the deconstruction of what has been tried in amarna city.

And If this is the case, I do not agree with the cover-up and much less with the reasons for the same.

Ah, I see, thank you for the clarification. If Akhenaton were Moses then he just transplanted many aspects of the Egyptian model to the 12 Tribes of Israel. I think of it as a synthesis. But this is problematic. Because in some ways it does not fit in with other aspects of this tale as it is told, particularly the Anunnaki aspect. Enlil is supposed to have been Jehovah, the god of the 12 tribes. A mountain god, no greater or less than any other. This, according to Sitchin and others.

If this is so, how does a conehead, Akhenaton, fit in with the Tall Whites? Were they working together? At counter purposes? When Akhenaton/Moses went up on the mountain to receive the 10 Commandments from Jehovah/Enlil, from the description given to that event in the Old Testament, didn't seem like it was a friendly meeting. Lot of fire and brimstone and loud noises, from what I can recall without going to a bible and looking it up. He came back down kinda pissed, which did not help the 12 Tribes who had gone back to worshipping the golden calf, which, supposedly, represented the Sumerian moon god, Sin who is Nanna, Enlil's son, or also El, whih is also associated with Baal(bull)-El, Adad, and confusion within confusion. Smh.

It is apparent that amalgamation of dieties has occurred and that the Old Testament is not a good source as it is comprised of earlier stories. The confusion would serve the interests of the Eloheem Anunnaki well.

Point being, the pyramidal structure did not end. It was refined further. Exported, a new people taking on the mantle of legitimacy, which would serve Akhenaton's purposes well.

Also, the trajectory of the tribes of Israel through time and space has resulted in the current constellation of power and privilege, as well as wealth and genetic assimilation in nigh unfathomable ways, the intricacy of interactivity being of such a nature that it beggers description. Taking into account as well, the evolution of this stream through the European royal lines, down through the Merovingians and their fish-god, Jesus and Mary and the Cathar Heresy, the control apparatus can be traced, with a few bumps in the road, all the way back to the extraterrestrial king, Akhenaton.

I will work with the two possibilities that seem most plausible at what already raised in previous posts (there may be other possibilities, I'm not closing doors):

1 - If Akhenaten (conehead) was Moses, at some point after their escape/exit from Egypt, he and his descendants (coneheads): or were eliminated, or had problems in the continuity of their species or also decided to disappear from view and command from behind the cenes.

2 - Akhenaten and his descendants (coneheads) were eliminated by roundhead that replaced the reign of Egypt.

In both cases they (coneheads) apparently disappeared And who proceeded to give the cards, at least 'apparently' (I will return to this point in the completion of this post) were the roundheads.

I would say they interbred more or less with the greater population. And that some do still exist in isolated populations around the world, as my images posted later attest to and as your images posted of European royalty attest to as well.

Including the roundheads being able to be puppets of other forces, perhaps even the Anunnakis (Having found undesirable survivors after the great flood (coneheads)). In this case the Anunnaki used the roundheads as cover to eliminate a possible most dangerous competition to their plans, the coneheads (I'm imagining that coneheads possessed greater mental capacity than roundheads).

I have never seen a good image of the tall whites. Here are a couple:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/tallwhite2_zps5c619df7.jpg

This one is pretty good. This entity could not walk about in public though.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/tallwhite1_zps09ae6215.jpg

This one looks like a Nordic. And the Tall Whites are supposed to be taller than 6.5 feet.

And this is all assuming that the Anunnaki were not Reptilian anyway.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/anunnaki1_zpsa8088b43.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/anunnaki_zps8c94b568.jpg

These depictions DO have some rather long skulls, don't they ...

My reasoning is based on the possibility that Obama's bloodline shown in the image above is correct.

In this case President Obama would be a mixture of -Rh the current dark cabal (bloodline of his mother) and lineage (extraction of genes found mummies) of akhenaten line (a failure in this case is the current obama roundhead (I can not explain except in terms of genetic knowledge control by the dark cabal)).

Who would have, 50 years ago (+ or - based on the age of President Obama) the ability / power to access the ancient Egypt mummies genes and mainly to have human cloning technology? 50 years ago the genetics technology 'officially' was crawling. Dark cabal probably would. Moreover, it would also be able to put Obama on top of the American political pyramid. When thinking of possibilities more 'earthly' the dark cabal would be practically the only one with the skills and resources needed to materialize this reality.

Yeh, according to more resources, Obama is both a monarch (http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2013/03/11/barack-hussein-obamba-ii-the-boy-from-brazil-part-1/) and a space kid (http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2010/10/09/down-the-rabbit-hole-barack-obama-tom-morello-satanism-space-kids-and-the-cyborg-project/), not that the two are mutually exclusive. Each of these deserves deeper examination, but the ties of his mother to CIA and monarch-programming seem to be very strong by the evidence. A strong tie to known programmers is recorded in the links above. Inclusion in the Mars project seems to have been a part of his early life as well. His connection to NASA seems to be well-documented also.

This statement made by ex - lawyer of the World Bank Karen Hudes, would make sense if akhenaten (biblical Moses - God Aton - One God - Jewish God ref. above) and his descendants began to call the shots behind the scenes as I suggested in earlier hypotheses above. And she referred specifically to a species of conehead.

Karen Hudes says the cross between the coneheads and roundheads produces a hybrid that can not reproduce. So, from that perspective and if it really is right on this issue, dilution of the coneheads through crossbreeding generations would not be possible. According to this logic, the coneheads should still have coneheads if they currently exist. Or perhaps an intermediary between the two.

What she says and what is real can be very different or not. No way to know. But we have to work with something.

I would say that the evidence is that she is incorrect. Because there appear to be people walking around today with rather long cone-heads of various lengths. Growing up in black communities, this is actually something that is known and commented on when children are small, who have skulls extended in the back that are longer than most. They are teased about it, and their skulls do not extend as far as some of the images above, although I have personally seen people with heads as long as a couple of the women in my post with the pictures of the african women. This seems to me to be a form of hybridization.

I would consider Karen to be perhaps spreading propaganda. She may have been told this and may believe it. It may not be necessarily true, as it does not serve these extraterrestrial interests to have people knowing that a larger proportion of the population has there geneology than might be expected.

Especially if a good proportion of that group is of direct African descent.

I think if there was a dilution of the species type between coneheads and roundheads, these results would be different. Of course, always considering what is being reported is correct.

I am also considering that Egypt coneheads are relatives of Paracas coneheads in south america, which the DNA tests were performed.

So in that case Karen Hudes seems to have passed the correct information.

We have come to different conclusions based upon the evidence presented. I do think that there has been a dilution of the species. That is what this planet has been all about. Different extraterrestrial races, coming here, mixing and melding genetics, creating something different in the cosmos. Different agendas perhaps spanning thousands if not millions of years, each race arriving and building from the genetic material of the humanoids they found here, specializing for different purposes perhaps. Considering the history of hybridization on this planet, the increasing population and the choice of the USA as the focus of the NWO agenda, a country founded on the principle of "Out Of Many, One", speaks to hybridization as the goal. It is my entire thesis.

I am in full agreement with the final questions that you brought up and I not have answers for them unless we may be witnessing of something very unique and exceptional.

I believe we are witnessing something very unique and exceptional.

:wizard:

doodah

2nd December 2014, 07:58

Rahkyt:

Hi Naste, Doodah, RUSirius and others, I'd like to take the opportunity to THANK YOU ALL for continuing to explore these issues and bring up these very relevant topics for consideration.
...
Rahkyt, I want to thank YOU for being such a gracious host for this topic and this thread. Your ability to sustain deep cogitation on all the issues involved is the glue holding the whole thing together.

You and Naste have provided such wonderful research links, I'm going to have to take a few days to look into a few of them but I'll be coming back to the thread. I do have seriously slow computing power here (dialup). I can't keep up with you techno-whizkids because of the slow load times and I can't do youtube at all from my home computer. When I can get some time at the library I'll look at the videos posted in this thread. I want to thank you all for all the research -- it's wonderful. I think we should write the book, if it doesn't exist already.

Rahkyt:

I do not know Hudes work.

Karen Hudes is a World Bank whistleblower. She is a member on Avalon. Her last post was in May, 2014.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65275-Karen-Hudes-has-just-joined-the-Avalon-Forum-please-welcome-her-here

Naste:

UPDATE
Certainly I have to adapt my ideas to this new information.

If the above information is confirmed, It seems palusivel say that there is a good chance of substantially of the Western paradigm: health / financial / religious / scientific / courts/, ie, a western slave mentality is direct scription of coneheads and their descendants who in turn, is a species of hominid with different origin of homo roundheads sapiens sapiens.

Rahkyt

If we follow the reasoning of the Anunnaki tale as laid out by Sitchin and followed by rote in the time since he wrote his Earth Chronicles then the "roundheads" were the Adam that the Anunnaki created and all hybridization that has occurred since then has been the dissolution of the pure Anunnaki strain by interbreeding with the created, Adam strain.

Other Sumerian scholars do contest Sitchin's interpretations, which confuses things for people who are not Sumerian scholars! And we're in disagreement about whether Karen Hudes' information is accurate or not. We'll just have to do the best we can.

At some point it would be interesting to put together a timeline for some of the crucial points in this story: I mean, are we talking 35,000 years ago, 100,000 years ago? The Egyptian kings go back to 3000ish BC (5,000 years ago) but what are the dates for Atlantis, the Flood of Noah, the Garden of Eden and the creation of Adam/Eve (was Adam Jewish?), the building of the pyramids (not Khufu). It has been suggested that the pyramids were built by a civilization predating the Egyptian kings we have been discussing, as there are no hieroglyphs, scrolls, carvings, or other sources documenting their building, whereas almost every other aspect of life in Egypt is depicted somewhere.

In Genesis it says something like "Go forth and bear your children in pain." I've always wondered about that, why it is true that human women undergo such pain in childbirth when most animals do not seem to experience much discomfort delivering their young. We are, after all, animals whose biology is fundamentally linked to this planet. Aside from the "junk DNA" which no one understands and which does not seem to be active (may be alien in origin), the human genome is 98 - 99% either chimpanzee or bonobo (the chimpanzee and bonobo genomes are almost identical), with a nominal bit from the Rhesus monkey (Rh factor) also thrown in there for the majority of the human population. As a woman who has experienced natural childbirth, I am beginning to suspect, from this discussion, that it was the creation of the round head that is the primary source of the pain of childbirth -- the head is too big to fit the birth canal. Many roundhead children are born with deformed, slightly pointed skulls, which is caused by the compression of the skull as it goes through the birth canal. This distortion disappears within a few weeks as the skull settles back to its natural shape. I can tell you, it would be a LOT easier if the child's head were elongated instead of round!

Rahkyt:

Although Sitchin pointedly did not address the current status of the Anunnaki as potentially affecting the world situation in the modern era, more recent writers who have taken up his research state that most of the Anunnaki left within the last 1,000 years or so but that Marduk and perhaps 1-300 remained here on earth. Some call them the "Tall Whites", although I view that designation with the same skepticism with which I view much of the "official" unofficial recounting of extraterrestrial agendas these days in the New Age alternative news propaganda machine.

(I agree with you in your skepticism.) Taking a literal 1000-year measurement, that would mean they left around 1014, which rather neatly segues in with Naste's House of Estes info (thanks for that, amazing, I had no idea...), which might be part of Marduk's group emerging into power in Europe after 900 AD.

The "Tall Whites" ... conehead ancestors. Wow...

Thanks, Rakhyt, for attesting to elongated heads within the black community, showing that this characteristic, although perhaps diluted, is still present in the human species. I personally have never met a conehead, or anyone with an exaggeration of the skull, although I have met a few people with very strange eyes.

I'm in agreement with Naste, that I have to readjust my thinking based on the information gathered here in only 3 pages (3 INTENSE pages). Before this thread, I had thought that the Controllers were fat, geriatric, roundheaded white European men. But now I'm imagining them differently, and beginning to wonder if Atlantians were all coneheads, or whether the roundheads had already been created during the time of Atlantis.

naste.de.lumina

2nd December 2014, 14:26

Hello my friends.

I'm a little busy due to family situations but I hope soon (until tomorrow night (in Brazil)) is continuing this exciting course of the topic.

Meanwhile I post the link with automatic google translation (Portuguese => English) of the summary of findings made by us here in PA, published as articles in a Brazilian forum that I participate.

All Current European Nobility descendent of the 'House of d'Este' - Elongated Skulls (Royalty) (https://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.antinovaordemmundial.com%2FTopico-toda-nobreza-europeia-atual-descende-da-casa-de-d-este-cr%25C3%25A2nios-alongados-realeza%3Fpid%3D188043%23pid188043&edit-text=)

An important detail to be taken into consideration. If the Egyptian pharaohs (coneheads) possessed a distinct nature of the roundheads, how old they could live?

Perhaps the myths of the pharaohs with absurd ages are not myths at all.

The absurd ages mentioned in the Bible and other religious texts also.

Replace Moses and other characters who lived long periods of time and that had extraordiários powers, for coneheads (or mix) characters and these texts will do much more sense.

doodah

2nd December 2014, 20:13

Thanks, Naste ... I hope to work my way through that link you gave at the bottom of page 3!

Just a few random thoughts:

1. The Old Testament of the bible is the history of the Jewish people. Therefore, to answer my own question above, Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, etc., must have been Semitic peoples. I don't know if the DNA supports this idea. They were not the only "people" on the Earth at the time of the Garden of Eden, however, because Cain went forth and multiplied. If he didn't mate with his mother, there had to be other women out there already. (Of course, he MIGHT have mated with his mother, if he followed the example of his ET/God.)

Correction: After reading the Khazar article linked by Rahkyt on page 1, I don't know what to think of the Garden of Eden and the people created there. Apparently the DNA is showing that the Jews are descended from Mongol-Tatar-Khazars, from further east than the Tigris/Euphrates valley.

2. All the other "racial" groups on this planet have come from other forms of interference by different ETs. None of human "evolution" is "natural," and none of it is has been intelligently designed by God/Gods.

Correction: Part of human evolution is "natural" in the sense that we do come from planet Earth stock, with modifications. Our chemistry is certainly tied to the natural world of this planet -- we need what this planet provides us in order to have health, despite modern attempts to create everything in a laboratory which has only produced a lot of sick people.

3. If we look at the "Gods" as they have appeared in the Sumerian, then the Greek and Roman, cultures, and also in the Hindu Vedas, we (modern people) were created by an incestuous, patricidal, contentious group of beings. If we hold them up as ideals that we would wish to emulate ... well, here we are. It sure looks like this planet is locked in strife and war because those are the ideals which our Gods taught/teach us.

4. One of the most amazing aspects of living on this planet at this time is realizing how DEEPLY held the notions are about honoring our history and our Gods. We seem to be locked in a continuous backward/forward loop ... perhaps the cycles Rahkyt refers to ... which we can't seem to break out of.

5. There must be an inhibitor switch somewhere deep in the human psyche (there's probably a gene for this). Only a few manage to break free and realize they have been trapped in a story which FAR too many people actually believe is "reality," when it is not, it's just a story, the script that for some reason we believe we MUST play out.

6. I think this whole setup is an intelligence test. Maybe we wrote the script ourselves, maybe we're writing it now. I say: "Let's throw this script away and write a different story."

END NOTE: All of this is neither here nor there as far as this thread goes, except as we uncover whatever evidence there is for the ET manipulation of the genome. This thread has certainly been amazing in that regard so far! Thank you all.

Love and best wishes to everyone,
Doodah

doodah

4th December 2014, 05:15

Hi everyone,

I've been to the library and have looked at a lot of the links provided in this thread. Now I have a lot of new questions:

1. Are ALL Rh-negative people descended from coneheads or a mix of conehead/roundhead?

2. Because there is now an abnormally large number of diabetics in our population, I am wondering if the majority of those developing this condition (which is not a survival trait) are roundheads, therefore possibly all Rh-positive -- IF Rh+ is a trait specific to roundheads. I have no way of researching this. I can't imagine that such data would be available to the general public - maybe the Mormons would know since they keep such detailed genealogical records. Assuming that the Elites are conehead descendants and that they're trying to wipe out a great deal of the roundhead population, is diabetes one of the methods they're using?

3. Even if we manage to not get diabetes, manage to survive the epidemics engineered to wipe out only roundheads, and manage to not go crazy, we still have to consider the possibility of dying as a gibbering idiot from Alzheimer's because of the continuous rain of aluminum being put unnaturally into the air by atmospheric spraying. Is the accumulation of aluminum in the brain that is associated with Alzheimer's also only a roundhead problem? I do begin to wonder...

Given the advanced state of genetic manipulation we have today, it wouldn't surprise me if #2 and #3 are true, and that roundheads are the target population of all the hideous biologicals we are capable of producing. I am assuming that the conehead descendants have some natural resistance to these various attacks because of their different genetics, since they wouldn't want to wipe themselves out as well. Perhaps the difference is the Rh factor - perhaps that was built into roundheads as a control mechanism, to be activated when technology was advanced enough.

???

naste.de.lumina

7th December 2014, 21:24

Hello Rahkyt, doodah and all friends.

1. Are ALL Rh-negative people descended from coneheads or a mix of conehead/roundhead?

Really are many questions to be added to the roll of the unanswered questions in our 'story': ancient, contemporary and especially that constantly re-written.

Certainly the organization of information that enabled this topic, changed my perspective on logic to understand the past.

I'm not saying that everything raised here is 100% correct, but does have a high chance of this narrative have read a piece of an incredibly surreal reality.

The fit is very fair to be simple coincidence and I'm not a fan of the theories of the same (coincidences).

As for coneheads are the origins of the royalties, the more I research the more I am convinced with this possibility.

Conehead SKULL FOUND IN FRANCE - NOV 19TH, 2013 (http://www.ecanadanow.com/science/2013/11/19/conehead-skull-found-in-france-photo/)

http://www.ecanadanow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/conehead-skull.jpg

The 'coincidence' Significant is the tombs of coneheads invariably present aristocracy and wealth signals. We only find rich coneheads. The poor are always round heads. Royalty and coneheads Seems to be an intimate connection.

And They are trying to stick the false narrative there was the fashion Among the nobility in deformed Their skulls. The differences are easily visible from que shown at right angles. But They Do not show These angles.

Imagine the 'fashion competition of most larger head intentionally deformed' occurring between the nobility of virtually all of Europe, including during the time of the Black Death pandemic.

Ridiculous. I understand that they are lying and omitting at the same time.

Structural visual differences between the skulls - cone X round
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The connection of the 'House of d'Este' and Jews Also Seems to be very intimate. Another of Those unexplained 'mysteries' of destination.

From Antwerp to Ferrara: the Jewish Nation (link with google translate portuguese to english) (https://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.morasha.com.br%2Fconteudo%2Fartigos%2Fartigos_view.asp%3Fa%3D830%26p%3D1&edit-text=)

'Officially' the DNA test was created in 1984 by English geneticist Alec Jeffreys John.

In three decades of 'official' existence DNA testing the self-appointed 'appropriate scientific forum' did not make any 'official' examination.

If all this is really true the status quo has the greatest interest in not occur this connection.

Probably things are much more complicated than my story described above, because the information that the Rahkyt put in the original topic has to fit somehow. So I think still important to have an open mind to new possibilities that just a few days ago were unthinkable for us.

I will continue to watch out for this line of reasoning and any news will be informing them here.

A big hug to everyone.

Naste.

UPDATE

Putting more fuel on the fire

The images of those 'God-Rulers', made at the earliest 'Ubaid'
period of Sumer (http://www.perceptions.couk.com/authority.html), looking reptilian and with coneskulls.

http://www.perceptions.couk.com/imgs/ubaid-eridu-figurine04.jpg

This Queen-Goddess also has the reptilian long-skull under her head-dress.
http://www.perceptions.couk.com/imgs/ubaid-SumerQn.jpg

The skull shape is maybe seen more clearly on this ceremonial 'mask'.
http://www.perceptions.couk.com/imgs/ubaid_maskc5000.jpg

The Unanswered Mystery of 7,000-year-old Ubaid Lizardmen (http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/unanswered-mystery-7000-year-old-ubaid-lizardmen-001116)

They always are 'royalty' and / or 'gods'. And are coneheads.

In any case, reptilian appearance or not, large head seems to have advantages, so the paradigm is already shattered.

Maybe this video can give a vision of a larger perspective.

Michael Tsarion - The Destruction of Atlantis
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Mark

7th December 2014, 23:13

Thanks for those photos in #46 above. Those are pretty amazing. Although I was aware of the Egyptian and Peruvian skeletons with elongated skulls, I really was not aware that there are living modern-day people with such skulls. You mention that the shape of these skulls could be the result of head-boarding, the practice of binding the heads of infants between boards while the skull is still soft, to force the bone into this form. I am not aware that there are people doing this today but it is an anthropological question as to why this custom appeared in certain tribes in earlier centuries.

I should make clear that I do not believe that binding is the reason why the skulls are elongated. My stating such was tongue-in-cheek, for those who fail to notice the obvious extra skull capacity of the individuals depicted in these photographs. The earlier appearance of such practices was to approximate the physical characteristics of the ruling class and aristocracy as we are now discussing them in extraterrestrial terms. An attempt to preserve the appearance, if not the actual attributes.

Another item for me to research is whether or not there has ever been a pharaoh's brain found in any tomb, in the mortuary jars that held the internal organs of mummies. It would be interesting to see if anything is known about the brains of the Amenhotep line (coneheads) including Ahkenaten and King Tut.

Apparently the ancient Egyptians destroyed the brain upon engaging the mummification process. Perhaps this was a command from on high to prevent them being recovered in the future and studied.

I was aware that depictions of Ahkenaten were faithfully lifelike but I was not aware that he was depicted as being larger in size than normal humans. Hm. Would you put him in the class of "giants"? Nefilim? Because of his rounded hips, it has been suggested that maybe he was hermaphroditic.

He was and it would have. He was depicted in some of the imagery thusly. I have read convincing arguments that size of body and size of brain correspond to state of evolutionary principle. That the ancient statues depicting Egyptian Pharaohs of immense stature were of their actual size. I'm not very interested in debating the merits of that argument as it is outside of the parameters of the discussion but if anyone wishes to pursue it any further it would be an interesting side-view of the overall topic.

However, do you recall seeing photos of Obama's head which showed strange white lines in his hair? I think at the time conspiracy types were trying to suggest that he had had brain surgeries, perhaps to implant control devices. But now I wonder if he didn't have surgeries to remove his conehead and redistribute his brains into a rounder skull. :) Sorry, Rahkyt, I couldn't help myself, no disrespect intended to this very fascinating topic you raised here.

I do remember those images. They were supposed to depict scar tissue.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/obama_zpseea811bb.jpg

They actually depict no such thing. This is what it looks like when a black man brushes his hair and that is the part line.

I agree that Rahkyt should decide if we need to take all the conehead / roundhead discussion to another thread. But I'm also finding that discussing all this in the context of Obama puts a spin on it that is very fascinating.

I would like for it to remain here as it is relevant. I continue to resist the division of humanity into coneheads versus roundheads even though it is a 'natural' stereotype. Primarily because that division is relatively recently if it is an accurate representation, then it precludes the earlier genetic manipulation of the Terran genome by extraterrestrials that arrived even earlier. The division can continue on even deeper, which would be meaningless in this context. The synthetic perspective is more reasonable, in my view.

Mark

7th December 2014, 23:57

The occupant of the 'mystery tomb' of the Valley of the Kings (KV 55 Wiki ref. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KV55)) is now said to be Akenaten - based on DNA testing which indicated he was was the son of Amenhotep III and the father of Tutankhamun, and that his 'age-at-death' was consistent with Akenaten's estimated demise.

I am generally inclined toward a critical perspective on anything that comes out of Zawi Hawass's fingers and mouth. This article (http://www.guardians.net/hawass/articles/Mystery%20of%20the%20Mummy%20from%20KV55.htm) presenting one potentiality of many is no different. Out many possible quotes and viewpoints that can be taken from this article, the following sums up the perspective presented that I can agree with without qualification:

The presence of artifacts belonging to members of the royal family of El-Amarna led to the tomb being dubbed the “Amarna Cache.” Most people think that KV55 was in fact used for the reburial of a mummy and funerary equipment that had originally been interred in a royal tomb or tombs at El-Amarna. Unfortunately, it is impossible to determine which of the many names found on the objects in the tomb belonged to the skeletal remains found in the gilded wooden coffin.

While Hawass speculates that the skeleton could have been Akhenaten, he does not state so conclusively nor does the DNA test he references come to that conclusion either. Just that the skeleton belonged to a "close relative" of Tutankhamen.

There is a limit of 9 images to be included in a single post in PA, so I close this post here. But already it showed me that there seems to be a concrete link between the coneheads with the old and current European nobility.

If this hypothesis prove correct to means that probably there was a mix, because the current descendants of the royal families do not have conehead. At least those who appear in public.

European royalty is only one avenue of genetic transmission. There are more. Worldwide in distribution. Mesoamerican royalty, African and Asian royalty are also implicit. I posted pics of living Africans with obviously elongated skulls, to demonstrate the presence of people with those characteristics who are on this planet right this moment. Who are human. I also referenced Credo Mutwah's video with David Icke earlier, in the hopes it would be perused, to gain a more in-depth understanding of the nature of this issue. I would like to reemphasize the necessity of having a more holistic understanding of the issue as this is a global phenomenon, not one purely related to Europe and its most recent descendents.

If the above information is confirmed, It seems palusivel say that there is a good chance of substantially of the Western paradigm: health / financial / religious / scientific / courts/, ie, a western slave mentality is direct scription of coneheads and their descendants who in turn, is a species of hominid with different origin of homo roundheads sapiens sapiens.

Terran humanity is only one species of humanity in the galaxy and universe. This is my underlying premise. One that is perhaps supported by evidence based upon these ancient records. In the context of Obama and this discussion on the "conehead/roundhead" issue, its relevance is in hybridization. A genetic agenda that resurfaces over and over again in the alternative paradigm. An agenda that has been in place for thousands if not millions of years.

An agenda that Barack Hussein Obama represents in his very essence alongside many, many others, who are walking the streets just like we are. Who are descendants of extraterrestrial races, just like we all are. The preoccupation with exclusivity and elevation above the perceptive "commons" is a dangerous one in the alternative community and one that contributes to an overall superiority of situation. To understand that we are all, in essence, starseed, is mandatory in the continuing evolution of the human family.

It is no longer a purely elite phenomenon if it ever was. Were all of the Anunnaki royalty? Every single one of them? Perhaps so, in the same sense that each and every one of us is royalty as well, sharing genomes from many different times and places, many different species and races. A critical interpretation of prevailing memes that differentiate rather than synthesize is necessary. Fractional rifts based upon perceptive superiority are rife and must be contended with at every instance.

Mark

8th December 2014, 00:34

That is, rather than relying on a lot of incremental facts to lay the foundation of one's premise, the tendency is to go intuitively right to the heart of the matter, which I like and which you have done.

I read a book many years ago about lateral versus hierarchical thinking. The most profound scientific discoveries by Galileo, by Einstein, were preceded by a moment of absolute knowing. An epiphany. All that was left, then, was for them to work out the equations.

While there is a bit of an overload of speculative information, it seems to be generally agreed upon by many of the Michael channelers that Obama is operating at the level of a Mature Soul, and knowing that may help to render his ultimate impact a little more predictable, I think.)

I think that is a reasonable conclusion. It is agreed upon, even by his detractors, that he is generally the most level head in any room he is in. Throughout his tenure as POTUS, the most hysterical histrionics have been applied to him. Currently, they range around fights in the white house, depression, fights with Michelle ad infinitum. He is being depicted as being psychologically unstable in the tabloids and even in some venues of the MSM. These proffered viewpoints are intended to nullify the perspective that those who contend most directly with him know is truth. That he is indeed a Mature Soul and rarely affected by the emotional traps that waylay less evolved spirits.

This perspective goes counter to the visceral hatred with which many in the alternative community view Obama. To consider the fact that this man who has attained the role of POTUS could in fact be an evolutionary tool employed by the Multiverse and higher agendas to obtain certain ends and to transport this nation and planet from one mode of being to another is a lot to be asked to understand or even believe. The fact that Hitler played such a role, that Mansa Musa played such a role, that Ghengis Khan played such a role, that Montezuma played such a role seems to be too holistic a perspective to take in the immediacy of our modern perspectives and prejudices.

Viewing modern events from within them, contextually, is the surest way to be subsumed by the moment and lose the greater vision. Holistic methods of accreting information and finding common themes is the pure expression of lateral thinking. Once enough information has been synthesized, intuition is deployed and these leaps in logic, drawing the pattern within previously chaotic collections of information becomes possible.

There is indeed a lot of information to wade through on Simon's thread, but I think you will find it worth your while, and you can probably skim through a lot of it.

I look forward to perusing his website, thank you for bringing it back to my attention.

In any case, it feels to me, if we can use a yoyo to illustrate, that we are approaching the very bottom of the string in our journey downward, and the yoyo is soon ( within the next couple of years) going to begin the inevitable, upward trajectory.
It's bound to be a wild ride, but hopefully there will be sufficient factors to help smooth the way.

I appreciate this analogy. I think perhaps many of us who are energy workers have been feeling this all very intensely and consciously. The suspension at the bottom of the yoyo's descent is where we have been, but the impetus toward upwards movement has now arrived and is intractable in its effects. Which, paradoxically enough, will result in greater potentialities for some and lessened opportunities for certain types of experience for others.

Mark

8th December 2014, 00:50

" it seems they would strike him from the record in a similar fashion if it were possible to do so."....... possible ? when the smoke clears it may be necessary, as we all know true history is a lot different than what we are taught .

Hi Jerry. Thanks for dropping by. You do make a very palpable point there, Sir. Assuming that things continue on in the same vein they have been for many thousands of years at the end of this particular Age, or if this will indeed be a "reset" of sorts.

naste.de.lumina

10th December 2014, 23:32

The occupant of the 'mystery tomb' of the Valley of the Kings (KV 55 Wiki ref. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KV55)) is now said to be Akenaten - based on DNA testing which indicated he was was the son of Amenhotep III and the father of Tutankhamun, and that his 'age-at-death' was consistent with Akenaten's estimated demise.

I am generally inclined toward a critical perspective on anything that comes out of Zawi Hawass's fingers and mouth. This article (http://www.guardians.net/hawass/articles/Mystery%20of%20the%20Mummy%20from%20KV55.htm) presenting one potentiality of many is no different. Out many possible quotes and viewpoints that can be taken from this article, the following sums up the perspective presented that I can agree with without qualification:

The presence of artifacts belonging to members of the royal family of El-Amarna led to the tomb being dubbed the “Amarna Cache.” Most people think that KV55 was in fact used for the reburial of a mummy and funerary equipment that had originally been interred in a royal tomb or tombs at El-Amarna. Unfortunately, it is impossible to determine which of the many names found on the objects in the tomb belonged to the skeletal remains found in the gilded wooden coffin.

While Hawass speculates that the skeleton could have been Akhenaten, he does not state so conclusively nor does the DNA test he references come to that conclusion either. Just that the skeleton belonged to a "close relative" of Tutankhamen.

I agree with you.

There is a limit of 9 images to be included in a single post in PA, so I close this post here. But already it showed me that there seems to be a concrete link between the coneheads with the old and current European nobility.

If this hypothesis prove correct to means that probably there was a mix, because the current descendants of the royal families do not have conehead. At least those who appear in public.

European royalty is only one avenue of genetic transmission. There are more. Worldwide in distribution. Mesoamerican royalty, African and Asian royalty are also implicit. I posted pics of living Africans with obviously elongated skulls, to demonstrate the presence of people with those characteristics who are on this planet right this moment. Who are human. I also referenced Credo Mutwah's video with David Icke earlier, in the hopes it would be perused, to gain a more in-depth understanding of the nature of this issue. I would like to reemphasize the necessity of having a more holistic understanding of the issue as this is a global phenomenon, not one purely related to Europe and its most recent descendents.

Again I agree with you with regard to there are people around the world with this feature. I did not say they were only Europeans. The coneheads are being found all over the world.

Mysterious Elongated Skulls Throughout the World (http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.ca/2013/03/mysterious-elongated-skulls-throughout.html)

What I meant is that a European group in particular may be the representative of the lines of the current European nobility. Not necessarily the only ones. And if this is the case a lot more questions must be answered.

I had watched the video of the Creed Mutwah with David Icke and watched again to examine it in the light of this new perspective.

If the above information is confirmed, It seems palusivel say that there is a good chance of substantially of the Western paradigm: health / financial / religious / scientific / courts/, ie, a western slave mentality is direct scription of coneheads and their descendants who in turn, is a species of hominid with different origin of homo roundheads sapiens sapiens.

Terran humanity is only one species of humanity in the galaxy and universe. This is my underlying premise. One that is perhaps supported by evidence based upon these ancient records. In the context of Obama and this discussion on the "conehead/roundhead" issue, its relevance is in hybridization. A genetic agenda that resurfaces over and over again in the alternative paradigm. An agenda that has been in place for thousands if not millions of years.

An agenda that Barack Hussein Obama represents in his very essence alongside many, many others, who are walking the streets just like we are. Who are descendants of extraterrestrial races, just like we all are. The preoccupation with exclusivity and elevation above the perceptive "commons" is a dangerous one in the alternative community and one that contributes to an overall superiority of situation. To understand that we are all, in essence, starseed, is mandatory in the continuing evolution of the human family.

It is no longer a purely elite phenomenon if it ever was. Were all of the Anunnaki royalty? Every single one of them? Perhaps so, in the same sense that each and every one of us is royalty as well, sharing genomes from many different times and places, many different species and races. A critical interpretation of prevailing memes that differentiate rather than synthesize is necessary. Fractional rifts based upon perceptive superiority are rife and must be contended with at every instance.

But we can be a different seed at the time were modified to be slaves, especially as we enter the perspective of trying to understand who is the slaves 'creators'. It was on this point that I focused in recent posts.

Hugs.

Naste.

Mark

14th December 2014, 01:39

I want to thank you all for all the research -- it's wonderful. I think we should write the book, if it doesn't exist already.

Do you think there would be a desire to read such a book?

If the above information is confirmed, It seems palusivel say that there is a good chance of substantially of the Western paradigm: health / financial / religious / scientific / courts/, ie, a western slave mentality is direct scription of coneheads and their descendants who in turn, is a species of hominid with different origin of homo roundheads sapiens sapiens.

According to some sources, a large part of the Anunnaki genetic project was indeed to split the hemispheres, utilize the reptilian brain to moderate the higher functions of the brain and minimize human access to higher psychic faculties. The expression of our cultures are then a result of that genetic limiting. In effect, they placed delimiters on us, regulators that have kept us mired in the space between heaven and hell, but which have also made us more susceptible to their control mechanisms. It is quite probable that the media that we take for granted is probably a major tool in this control function, that society itself is the control function.

As it seems to many that every aspect of the overall culture is death-centered, while simuntaneously expressing the highest ideals, we struggle to comprehend the seeming inconsistencies, while not looking directly at the thought processes themselves that have resulted in those inconsistencies. Nor do we stop to consider that this paradox has been artificially enhanced and genetically codified within the human family.

Other Sumerian scholars do contest Sitchin's interpretations, which confuses things for people who are not Sumerian scholars!

Yes, they do. Unless we're willing to take the time necessary to learn Sumerian ourselves, it becomes a task of personal discernment to determine what rings true and what does not. There are ways of cross-referencing information and resources in order to come to a common and general understanding of a particular aspect of the topic without having to learn the language itself, and also it is possible to do some intense and in-depth etymological research on specific words and ideas. That always helps when you are trying to get an overall understanding of the arguments in favor or against certain interpretations.

And we're in disagreement about whether Karen Hudes' information is accurate or not. We'll just have to do the best we can.

Just in general I consider all who share information based upon their own experience as being accurate until proven otherwise if that information correlates with other resources. But when information is received 3rd and 4th handed, it must receive even greater scrutiny.

At some point it would be interesting to put together a timeline for some of the crucial points in this story: I mean, are we talking 35,000 years ago, 100,000 years ago? The Egyptian kings go back to 3000ish BC (5,000 years ago) but what are the dates for Atlantis, the Flood of Noah, the Garden of Eden and the creation of Adam/Eve (was Adam Jewish?), the building of the pyramids (not Khufu). It has been suggested that the pyramids were built by a civilization predating the Egyptian kings we have been discussing, as there are no hieroglyphs, scrolls, carvings, or other sources documenting their building, whereas almost every other aspect of life in Egypt is depicted somewhere.

Yeh it would be interesting but very difficult as stone cannot be dated. There are myths that speak to some of this, but this is obviously prone to even more difficulties. The Egyptian King list goes back thousands of years. When the God-kings ruled. But correlating their times of rule with the sphinx and pyramids would be equally difficult. The tribe of Judah was only one of 12 tribes. Adam was not Jewish.

In Genesis it says something like "Go forth and bear your children in pain." I've always wondered about that, why it is true that human women undergo such pain in childbirth when most animals do not seem to experience much discomfort delivering their young. We are, after all, animals whose biology is fundamentally linked to this planet. Aside from the "junk DNA" which no one understands and which does not seem to be active (may be alien in origin), the human genome is 98 - 99% either chimpanzee or bonobo (the chimpanzee and bonobo genomes are almost identical), with a nominal bit from the Rhesus monkey (Rh factor) also thrown in there for the majority of the human population.

There's a book out now called The Secret History of the World. You might want to go check that out. It speaks to the history of the world as believed by the elite factions. Much different from what we generally understand history to be. Even those of us who consider ourselves well versed in these things. Primarily there is a differntiation between plant-based life and animal-based life. According to their belief, humanity, Adam, was 100% vegetal in nature. This is collective consciousness, no separation from the All. Through a gradual descent in form, people are now 100% animal with the chakra and energetic system being the last remnants of the original vegetal form. Now this process has take a relatively short time according to the propaganda in the book, a timeframe that is only some thousands of years in nature. It incorporates the idea of the bicameral mind, the gods and goddesses interacting with humans, the evolution of the individualized, egocentric mind as the highest expression of the animal imperative, and the furthest distance from the vegetal consciousness represented by Adam and Eve.

Junk DNA these days is considered to be programmable and malleable and represents the extended capacities of the mind for psychic phenomenon and the idea that certain parts of the brain are unused is falling from favor.

It is my understanding the chimps have blood type A and gorillas have blood type B. These are the first 2 human blood types. The O bloodtype evolved later and is the universal donor. Types AB with rhesus positive and negative are subsequent developments as well. Considering rh negative and positive blood types are, respectively, 85% and 15% of the population, and seem to have existed on this planet for a very long time (as Akhenaten, Tut, etc. were RH-, as is Obama), perhaps it is fair to say that this blood type is a human blood type. Since all humans express extraterrestrial genetics then thru multiple eras of interaction and genetic manipulation with extraterrestrials - as we have discussed previously - what we are now, as Homo Sapien Sapien, is reflective of this diverse genetic past and an agglomeration of multiple foreign genomes that are evolving toward some undetermined state.

As a woman who has experienced natural childbirth, I am beginning to suspect, from this discussion, that it was the creation of the round head that is the primary source of the pain of childbirth -- the head is too big to fit the birth canal. Many roundhead children are born with deformed, slightly pointed skulls, which is caused by the compression of the skull as it goes through the birth canal. This distortion disappears within a few weeks as the skull settles back to its natural shape. I can tell you, it would be a LOT easier if the child's head were elongated instead of round!

LOL Perhaps so. Do you think that conehead children would be more difficult to bear?

(I agree with you in your skepticism.) Taking a literal 1000-year measurement, that would mean they left around 1014, which rather neatly segues in with Naste's House of Estes info (thanks for that, amazing, I had no idea...), which might be part of Marduk's group emerging into power in Europe after 900 AD.

The "Tall Whites" ... conehead ancestors. Wow...

There is so much more to this. Extraterrestrial groups such as the Nordics, who probably are much more recent arrivals. With the propensity of channeling and other deceptive means of influencing humanity, there is no telling what ancient histories have been coopted for use in the design for the manipulation of the human family here on Terra. It would be to some groups advantage to be conflated with other, older understandings and mythologies, especially if these histories were passive, in the sense of their progenitors no longer being present or actively enforcing direct dominance. The aristocrats of Europe claim to have geneologies going back to Adam. You can go online and search them out and see, name by name, families that trace their descent back through Jesus, the Patriarchs, to the perceptive first man.

The period following the Dark Ages was dynamic indeed. The shift of Power from Southwest Asia into Europe was consolidated at that time. The movement of bloodlines through the relevant channels occurred in the period known as the Dark Ages, as the Merovingian line of "Fish Kings", who trace their descent similarly. Cathars, the Languadoc, the Black Madonna, it all comes together in a way that is often uncomfortable for some people to realize. The continual attempts to make anciet Egypt and the Pharaohs white is just one expression of this. Ancient Europeans knew the land to the south and east of them was filled with Black people. Only the structures of White Supremacy and a constant inundation of the public with movies and tv shows of questionable historicity and accuracy support this continuing delusion.

Thanks, Rakhyt, for attesting to elongated heads within the black community, showing that this characteristic, although perhaps diluted, is still present in the human species. I personally have never met a conehead, or anyone with an exaggeration of the skull, although I have met a few people with very strange eyes.

It is indeed. This remains a "secret of secrets". Even and perhaps especially within the alternative community. There is a reason why things are the way they are today. Everything is meaningful and connected. What is going on in regards to the Black American community currently, our president, the state of the nation and the western world, the rise of the BRICS, all of it.

The picture is vast to behold and staggering in its implications. The true parameters of the struggle incorporate these ancient tales and stories and truths, and understanding the role of genetics in all of this is a necessary component of any real discussion about current events.

That it is so often missing from the understanding of those doing the discussing, is a sad reality.

I'm in agreement with Naste, that I have to readjust my thinking based on the information gathered here in only 3 pages (3 INTENSE pages). Before this thread, I had thought that the Controllers were fat, geriatric, roundheaded white European men. But now I'm imagining them differently, and beginning to wonder if Atlantians were all coneheads, or whether the roundheads had already been created during the time of Atlantis.

You are on the right track Doodah. Thank you so much. Just talking to you, seeing that it is possible for people to see the greater picture, is gratifying. It gives me hope that it is possible when my hope for such a potentiality has been flagging.

Bless.

Mark

14th December 2014, 01:55

an important detail to be taken into consideration. If the Egyptian pharaohs (coneheads) possessed a distinct nature of the roundheads, how old they could live?

Perhaps the myths of the pharaohs with absurd ages are not myths at all.

The absurd ages mentioned in the Bible and other religious texts also.

Replace Moses and other characters who lived long periods of time and that had extraordiários powers, for coneheads (or mix) characters and these texts will do much more sense.

Yes. Being more or less closer in time and space to the original "separation" of the species by genetic devolution makes this question relevant. According to Sitchin, the Anunnaki had extraordinary lifespans in the thousands of years. Our conceptions of time and lives being but blinks in their long lives. It seems to have been the gold, which some have called astral or colloidal gold and other names more familiar to us today.

Stated again for the record, I am not certain about these stories Sitchin told. Nor am I willing to invest more than a passing mention to the old tales, considering there are other potentialities that can be just as valid if not more so. They may be deliberate disinformation. All that receives mainstream attention in my opinion cannot be otherwise. The fact that the Ancient Aliens show and many other documentaries over the years are so eager to spread this lore is suspicious. See my above posting about Vegetal/Animal differentiation and evolution for a more closer rendition of where I'm at right now on this topic of ancient evolutionary processes and genetic manipulation.

That there have been multiple bipedal consciousnesses on this planet is indisputable according to the fossil record. That they were expressions of different extraterrestrial genomes, is one potentiality. That they were failed experiments doomed to die out and share their genetic wealth with those who eventually became us were perhaps the earliest iterations of that separation between the higher form (conehead) and the lower (roundhead) is another. Different forms of slave or worker, made for different purposes?

Whatever the actual case is, what we are now is a result of what our ancestors became then. Ancestors that are still within us, from the Denovian to the Neanderthal to the other, unknown cousin in Africa, whose genetic footprints were found in the genetic test of a Black American, whose distant ancestors inhabited W. Africa.

We are what we are.

doodah

14th December 2014, 17:52

I want to thank you all for all the research -- it's wonderful. I think we should write the book, if it doesn't exist already.

Do you think there would be a desire to read such a book?

Definitely. I'd want to read it, to help get a handle on the things we've discussed here. It's all bits and pieces ... there are researchers who have tried to draw the information together into a unified whole but I can't name one that I think has the "real" story. Our story is so vastly complex, as you point out, and so disparate (everything from Gilgamesh to Simon Parkes) that it is very difficult to visualize the various developments. I myself do not have a firm mental picture of "the story." Threads such as this keep adding information and the story keeps changing and evolving in my head.

According to some sources, a large part of the Anunnaki genetic project was indeed to split the hemispheres ...

Look at Bill's interview with Klaus Dona if you haven't already, especially the conehead photos from Bolivia, Peru, Colombia. http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/klaus_dona_en.html Klaus mentions the 2-plate construction of the conehead skull: when viewed from the top, true coneheads have only two plates coming together. In current roundheads, there are 3 plates coming together at the 'soft spot,' or the fontanel at the top of the head. I have been wondering if conehead brains were smoother than ours today, and whether some of the convolutions in our brain surface comes from it being squeezed into the smaller volume of the round head. As you pointed out previously, there are no samples of Egyptian god-king brains saved in canopic jars in the tombs, so we don't have any way to know what those brains looked like.

... utilize the reptilian brain to moderate the higher functions of the brain and minimize human access to higher psychic faculties.
That seems to be working quite well! Except in the examples of yogis, mystics, adepts, or other highly trained individuals who have succeeded in breaking through the limiters.

The expression of our cultures are then a result of that genetic limiting. In effect, they placed delimiters on us, regulators that have kept us mired in the space between heaven and hell, but which have also made us more susceptible to their control mechanisms. It is quite probable that the media that we take for granted is probably a major tool in this control function, that society itself is the control function.
Yes, it is really quite amazing how this works. We are all "enculturated" -- and we seem to be extremely malleable - we can be shaped to believe almost anything. We all have the same needs for food, shelter, air, water, love ... but our children are born almost without instinct of any kind. We are the only species on the planet that does not know what foods are good for us. I've read that elephants also do not have certain in-built instincts, such as knowing how to take care of a newborn elephant -- a first-time-mother elephant needs to be taught how to handle a newborn by an older female. If there is no older female to teach her, a lone first-time-mother elephant doesn't know what to do.

As it seems to many that every aspect of the overall culture is death-centered, while simultaneously expressing the highest ideals, we struggle to comprehend the seeming inconsistencies, while not looking directly at the thought processes themselves that have resulted in those inconsistencies. Nor do we stop to consider that this paradox has been artificially enhanced and genetically codified within the human family.

Death-centered, yes. Especially now in our times it seems worse as our technology grows to the point of being able to destroy everything. I've also noticed that, starting at least with the Old Testament of the Christian bible, there has never been peace on this planet, only short spans of non-war. <sigh> And, silly me, until I encountered much of what is written in alternate culture, I actually believed that peace is possible. <sigh> Call me a dreamer!

At some point it would be interesting to put together a timeline for some of the crucial points in this story: I mean, are we talking 35,000 years ago, 100,000 years ago? The Egyptian kings go back to 3000ish BC (5,000 years ago) but what are the dates for Atlantis, the Flood of Noah, the Garden of Eden and the creation of Adam/Eve (was Adam Jewish?), the building of the pyramids (not Khufu). It has been suggested that the pyramids were built by a civilization predating the Egyptian kings we have been discussing, as there are no hieroglyphs, scrolls, carvings, or other sources documenting their building, whereas almost every other aspect of life in Egypt is depicted somewhere.

Yeh it would be interesting but very difficult as stone cannot be dated. There are myths that speak to some of this, but this is obviously prone to even more difficulties. The Egyptian King list goes back thousands of years. When the God-kings ruled. But correlating their times of rule with the sphinx and pyramids would be equally difficult. The tribe of Judah was only one of 12 tribes. Adam was not Jewish.

In Genesis it says something like "Go forth and bear your children in pain." I've always wondered about that, why it is true that human women undergo such pain in childbirth when most animals do not seem to experience much discomfort delivering their young. We are, after all, animals whose biology is fundamentally linked to this planet. Aside from the "junk DNA" which no one understands and which does not seem to be active (may be alien in origin), the human genome is 98 - 99% either chimpanzee or bonobo (the chimpanzee and bonobo genomes are almost identical), with a nominal bit from the Rhesus monkey (Rh factor) also thrown in there for the majority of the human population.

There's a book out now called The Secret History of the World. You might want to go check that out. It speaks to the history of the world as believed by the elite factions. Much different from what we generally understand history to be. Even those of us who consider ourselves well versed in these things. Primarily there is a differntiation between plant-based life and animal-based life. According to their belief, humanity, Adam, was 100% vegetal in nature. This is collective consciousness, no separation from the All. Through a gradual descent in form, people are now 100% animal with the chakra and energetic system being the last remnants of the original vegetal form. Now this process has take a relatively short time according to the propaganda in the book, a timeframe that is only some thousands of years in nature. It incorporates the idea of the bicameral mind, the gods and goddesses interacting with humans, the evolution of the individualized, egocentric mind as the highest expression of the animal imperative, and the furthest distance from the vegetal consciousness represented by Adam and Eve.

Thanks for the book reference. I'm not sure I can buy the vegetal idea at this point but I'd be willing to read about it. The deepest metaphysics I know does say some things about how "spirit" became trapped in 3-dimensional matter, and is still trapped. I'm not sure whether there was a progression from mineral to vegetable to animal, though. Of course, certain karmic beliefs do say that if we live especially unevolved lives, we may return as a rock or a slug and have to start all over again.

Junk DNA these days is considered to be programmable and malleable and represents the extended capacities of the mind for psychic phenomenon and the idea that certain parts of the brain are unused is falling from favor.

It is my understanding the chimps have blood type A and gorillas have blood type B. These are the first 2 human blood types. The O bloodtype evolved later and is the universal donor. Types AB with rhesus positive and negative are subsequent developments as well. Considering rh negative and positive blood types are, respectively, 85% and 15% of the population, and seem to have existed on this planet for a very long time (as Akhenaten, Tut, etc. were RH-, as is Obama), perhaps it is fair to say that this blood type is a human blood type. Since all humans express extraterrestrial genetics then thru multiple eras of interaction and genetic manipulation with extraterrestrials - as we have discussed previously - what we are now, as Homo Sapien Sapien, is reflective of this diverse genetic past and an agglomeration of multiple foreign genomes that are evolving toward some undetermined state.

Interesting ... more research needed. I could spend all my time researching all this stuff. But if I'm going to put in that kind of time, I might as well write a book, don't you think? You guys would have to be noted as co-authors, though.

As a woman who has experienced natural childbirth, I am beginning to suspect, from this discussion, that it was the creation of the round head that is the primary source of the pain of childbirth -- the head is too big to fit the birth canal. Many roundhead children are born with deformed, slightly pointed skulls, which is caused by the compression of the skull as it goes through the birth canal. This distortion disappears within a few weeks as the skull settles back to its natural shape. I can tell you, it would be a LOT easier if the child's head were elongated instead of round!

LOL Perhaps so. Do you think that conehead children would be more difficult to bear?

No, I think they would be easier to bear, given the current design of the human female. Roundhead skulls must be compressed in order to get through the birth canal (those 3 plates are very flexible and can move); a bullet-shaped skull (conehead) would fit the birth canal more easily. This is only one aspect of the current human body that I think is poorly designed! If it was designed this way as punishment... well, that's worked, but it hasn't kept us from having children - we just scream while delivering them. A man can't know what this pain feels like unless he has been fully conscious while his back is broken, in which case he would understand that there is no "LOL" about it.

(I agree with you in your skepticism.) Taking a literal 1000-year measurement, that would mean they left around 1014, which rather neatly segues in with Naste's House of Estes info (thanks for that, amazing, I had no idea...), which might be part of Marduk's group emerging into power in Europe after 900 AD.

The "Tall Whites" ... conehead ancestors. Wow...

Naste, do you know where that House of Este information comes from? Who first brought that to light on the net?

There is so much more to this. Extraterrestrial groups such as the Nordics, who probably are much more recent arrivals. With the propensity of channeling and other deceptive means of influencing humanity, there is no telling what ancient histories have been coopted for use in the design for the manipulation of the human family here on Terra. It would be to some groups advantage to be conflated with other, older understandings and mythologies, especially if these histories were passive, in the sense of their progenitors no longer being present or actively enforcing direct dominance. The aristocrats of Europe claim to have geneologies going back to Adam. You can go online and search them out and see, name by name, families that trace their descent back through Jesus, the Patriarchs, to the perceptive first man.

The period following the Dark Ages was dynamic indeed. The shift of Power from Southwest Asia into Europe was consolidated at that time. The movement of bloodlines through the relevant channels occurred in the period known as the Dark Ages, as the Merovingian line of "Fish Kings", who trace their descent similarly. Cathars, the Languadoc, the Black Madonna, it all comes together in a way that is often uncomfortable for some people to realize. The continual attempts to make anciet Egypt and the Pharaohs white is just one expression of this. Ancient Europeans knew the land to the south and east of them was filled with Black people. Only the structures of White Supremacy and a constant inundation of the public with movies and tv shows of questionable historicity and accuracy support this continuing delusion.

Thanks, Rakhyt, for attesting to elongated heads within the black community, showing that this characteristic, although perhaps diluted, is still present in the human species. I personally have never met a conehead, or anyone with an exaggeration of the skull, although I have met a few people with very strange eyes.

It is indeed. This remains a "secret of secrets". Even and perhaps especially within the alternative community. There is a reason why things are the way they are today. Everything is meaningful and connected. What is going on in regards to the Black American community currently, our president, the state of the nation and the western world, the rise of the BRICS, all of it.

Rahkyt, do you happen to know if those people with elongated skulls today seem to have higher IQs or especially notable characteristics different than the general run of roundheads?

The picture is vast to behold and staggering in its implications. The true parameters of the struggle incorporate these ancient tales and stories and truths, and understanding the role of genetics in all of this is a necessary component of any real discussion about current events.

Agreed. The story is indeed vast, which is why my questioning goes in all directions.

I'm in agreement with Naste, that I have to readjust my thinking based on the information gathered here in only 3 pages (3 INTENSE pages). Before this thread, I had thought that the Controllers were fat, geriatric, roundheaded white European men. But now I'm imagining them differently, and beginning to wonder if Atlantians were all coneheads, or whether the roundheads had already been created during the time of Atlantis.

You are on the right track Doodah. Thank you so much. Just talking to you, seeing that it is possible for people to see the greater picture, is gratifying. It gives me hope that it is possible when my hope for such a potentiality has been flagging.

Bless.

Thanks, Rahkyt. I think a lot of people on Avalon are trying to get an idea of the greater picture. After all, that's partly why this site exists. Bill from time to time gives us his updates on what he believes the greater picture is, in the way that he sees it, of course. But we also see people flocking to one or another of the big guns that show up here from time to time, as if they have the answer. People so much want to know and they also so much want to believe!!

Mark

14th December 2014, 19:00

All of this is relevant to our discussion Doodah. Thank you for bringing these topics to the fore as they provide the context for the exploration of the modern situational dramas the world is embroiled within.

1. The Old Testament of the bible is the history of the Jewish people. Therefore, to answer my own question above, Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, etc., must have been Semitic peoples. I don't know if the DNA supports this idea. They were not the only "people" on the Earth at the time of the Garden of Eden, however, because Cain went forth and multiplied. If he didn't mate with his mother, there had to be other women out there already. (Of course, he MIGHT have mated with his mother, if he followed the example of his ET/God.)

Correction: After reading the Khazar article linked by Rahkyt on page 1, I don't know what to think of the Garden of Eden and the people created there. Apparently the DNA is showing that the Jews are descended from Mongol-Tatar-Khazars, from further east than the Tigris/Euphrates valley.

The history of the Jewish people as one of the 12 Tribes of Israel. The Patriarch Jacob, brother of Esau, sons of Isaac, had 12 sons. Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin.

The descendants of the other 11 tribes are still around. All kinds of theories about who they are. Some believe they all went to Europe. Impossible. They went everywhere. So the definition of "Semetic" people is much broader than many people would like to think. Semetic blood is much more pervasive in the general world population if we consider the fact that the other 11 tribes have passed down their genetic structure throughout the greater Goyim population over time and across space.

The Adamic people are separated from the pre-Adamics, those who came before. Books like Urantia, the Kolbrin bible, etc., speak of this. I mentioned it in an offhand manner in my last post. Many different hominids, read people, that existed simultaneously upon Terra, potential humans of different extraterrestrial strains, or perhaps workers designed for different tasks. These could represent the populations that Cain found himself within. The recent Noah movie highlights Tubal Cain, a descendant of the original Cain, who was a metalworker, mentioned in the table of nations for a subject often associated with the gods.

The Khazaria aspect occurred much later. Long after the Diaspora, which occurred about 500BCE. The Khazarian inclusion occurred about 1000 years later. Apparently only some people of perceptive Ashkenazi heritage have Jewish genes. Those structure is identified as the Cohen gene which was the Priestly caste. The vast majority of those who identify as Jewish do not possess this gene. The royalty and the higher echelons of society eventually came to possess the gene structure while the majority population did not.

2. All the other "racial" groups on this planet have come from other forms of interference by different ETs. None of human "evolution" is "natural," and none of it is has been intelligently designed by God/Gods.

Correction: Part of human evolution is "natural" in the sense that we do come from planet Earth stock, with modifications. Our chemistry is certainly tied to the natural world of this planet -- we need what this planet provides us in order to have health, despite modern attempts to create everything in a laboratory which has only produced a lot of sick people.

I would contend that all of it has been intelligently designed. That the very idea of intelligent design is implicit in all that occurs in Cosmos. As the very foundation of materiality is patterned. We have spoken of sacred geometry slightly. There are also patterns such as the golden mean/fibonnaci series etc. There are fractals. Numerology. All speaking to order existing within seeming chaos. Intelligent design.

Now the order this implies is beyond the machinations of specific extraterrestrial forms of humanity. At their levels, perhaps they had no idea what would become of the hybrid they left behind. Perhaps some did. If not specifically, then in general, that they were participating in some grand design.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG0a9WFkgzU

3. If we look at the "Gods" as they have appeared in the Sumerian, then the Greek and Roman, cultures, and also in the Hindu Vedas, we (modern people) were created by an incestuous, patricidal, contentious group of beings. If we hold them up as ideals that we would wish to emulate ... well, here we are. It sure looks like this planet is locked in strife and war because those are the ideals which our Gods taught/teach us.

People are people, eh? Even at different levels of consciousness polarity remains while material incarnation is implicit and even beyond. There are differences though, in intensity of expression and access to higher abilities which are regulated by societal structures with very specific requirements. Reading the ancient tales as depicted by Sitchin, for instance, the propensity for violence and for emotional outbursts were extreme indeed and played out with disastrous ramifications for those gods and goddesses as well as the humans they had created. Context was generally missing, as the perspective of created beings (ie us) does not generally include musings upon ethical considerations as experienced by their divine masters, their karmic repercussions, punishments beyond the most direct and apparent, etc.

4. One of the most amazing aspects of living on this planet at this time is realizing how DEEPLY held the notions are about honoring our history and our Gods. We seem to be locked in a continuous backward/forward loop ... perhaps the cycles Rahkyt refers to ... which we can't seem to break out of.

They are programmed into us. At the level of subconscious behavior, until the effort is made to reveal these genetic patternings and then work with them consciously to minimize their primacy.

5. There must be an inhibitor switch somewhere deep in the human psyche (there's probably a gene for this). Only a few manage to break free and realize they have been trapped in a story which FAR too many people actually believe is "reality," when it is not, it's just a story, the script that for some reason we believe we MUST play out.

A few is still accurate, in relation to the whole. And there is a mechanism within the whole that reacts violently toward those few. That ostracizes and then kills them. Societal antibodies and mob rule, groupthink that is all expressive of these control mechanisms programmed into the human corpus.

6. I think this whole setup is an intelligence test. Maybe we wrote the script ourselves, maybe we're writing it now. I say: "Let's throw this script away and write a different story."

The 100 monkey effect is still relevant. But with the added caveat that there are forces acting against it directly. If we could throw the script away it would negate all the work we have contributed to the writing of it. I am of the thought that all is as it should be. That we are exactly where we as a human family have decided to be. Everything that is, was because of choices made by our ancestors even to the extent that the control mechanisms in place are deliberately maintained by each and every one of us.

We choose this. For a reason. And, at some level, we all realize what that reason is. Those who can articulate it generally do not, as its implications are too fearsome for most to behold directly.

END NOTE: All of this is neither here nor there as far as this thread goes, except as we uncover whatever evidence there is for the ET manipulation of the genome. This thread has certainly been amazing in that regard so far!

It is all connected, each and every word. Thank you, Doodah.

naste.de.lumina

27th December 2014, 22:07

Naste, do you know where that House of Este information comes from? Who first brought that to light on the net?

Hello doodah

The only site I've found that makes a connection between home d'Este with coneheads following the link below:

http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.ca/2013/03/mysterious-elongated-skulls-throughout.html

doodah

14th January 2015, 05:34

naste.de.lumina

14th January 2015, 05:53

Dear members participating in this thread ... Apologies, apologies, apologies that I disappeared, sometime back in December, probably around the holidays. This thread is not out of my thoughts, although it has to be placed on the back burner now for a while, probably at least until the end of January. Things are well here but suddenly there is no TIME to digest the deep and wide thoughts that each of the posts produces in me. There is obviously a deep resonance between me and this material (as with you others, too), but, honestly, this is not a thread I can read casually -- it's more like study, which I do enjoy.

I hope the new year is good for everyone, and I hope this thread will continue. Peace and love to you all,

~ Doodah

Hey Doodah.

I wish you all the same.

This discussion undoubtedly opened my awareness to other possibilities. During a short but intense period I was involved in a lot of research on the discoveries we made with our exchange of information and ideas.

I welcome for a period of time in which this whole new point of view can be settle down and fit into the overall context. A calm waters in a new shoreline so to speak.

But I'm aware to the news that may be linked to the content discussed in this topic.

Hugs.

Naste.