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ThePythonicCow
25th November 2014, 04:08
We have ignition for what could be some serious race riots in the US.

From USA Today: No indictment for Ferguson officer (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/24/ferguson-grand-jury-deliberations/19474907/):

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FERGUSON, Mo. -- A white police officer will not face charges for fatally shooting an unarmed black teenager in a case that set off violent protests and racial unrest throughout the nation.

A St. Louis County grand jury declined to indict officer Darren Wilson, 28, for firing six shots in an August confrontation that killed 18-year-old Michael Brown, St. Louis County prosecutor Robert McCulloch said Monday night.

The decision had been long awaited and followed rioting that resembled war-zone news footage in this predominantly black suburb of St. Louis.

Crowds of protesters filled streets near the Ferguson police station following the announcement. At least one police car was set on fire. Reporters on the scene said they heard gunshots and saw bricks being thrown, and that police responded with tear gas. Police said they were using smoke bombs and pepper spray.

A Molotov cocktail was thrown at police, according to the St. Louis County Police Department. Police said officers were hit with rocks and bottles.

In Washington, President Obama appeared before TV cameras. "We need to accept that this decision was the grand jury's to make,'' he said in calling for peaceful protests. But Obama said the Ferguson case "speaks to broader challenges (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/24/obama-ferguson-comments-michael-brown-darren-wilson/70064372/) that we still face as a nation.''

Prosecutor McCulloch made the announcement in an unusual nighttime presentation in a courtroom. He spoke at length about media coverage of the case and what he called the unreliability of eyewitness accounts. He said the grand jury weighed evidence and testimony before concluding there was no probable cause to indict the officer.
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RT America: Ferguson: No indictment for Michael Brown's killer
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St. Louis County prosecutor Robert McCulloch announced on Monday night that no charges will be filed against Ferguson, Mo. Police officer Darren Wilson. A grand jury had decided earlier in the day that there was insufficient evidence to file any charges against the officer over the August shooting death of African-American teenager Michael Brown.

ThePythonicCow
25th November 2014, 04:12
From Dahboo77:


FERGUSON PROTESTERS SMASH ST. LOUIS POLICE CAR! MADNESS BEGINS
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Crazy! Ferguson Protesters Set Cop Car On Fire!
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ThePythonicCow
25th November 2014, 04:42
Dahboo77 again: Ferguson Police Fire Tear Gas On Protesters!
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ThePythonicCow
25th November 2014, 06:00
From Zerohedge: Ferguson In Flames, Shots Fired, Police Car Destroyed, Tear-Gas Deployed, Looting; NYC Triborough Bridge & LA Freeways Blocked (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-24/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-live-feed):

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Protests have gone nationwide
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/11/20141124_Ferg10_0.jpg

BREAKING NEWS: PROTESTERS HAVE JUST SHUT DOWN THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE IN ADDITION TO THE MANHATTAN & TRI-BORO BRIDGES -

LOS ANGELES: 10 freeway from La Brea backed up for miles after #Ferguson protesters block freeway.

LA's Ferguson Protestors Cause Traffic Jam on 10 Freeway

BREAKING NEWS: Police officer shot in University City near Ferguson, condition unknown - St. Louis Post Dispatch

St. Louis county police report heavy automatic gunfire, shops looted

HAPPENING NOW: Rioters have set yet another business in Ferguson on fire

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Images to go with the above headlines, and more breaking news, are available at the above Zerohedge link (and no doubt other major news sources.)

NancyV
25th November 2014, 07:48
I wonder if any of these rioters actually listened to the evidence that was talked about by the prosecutor.....probably not. They just want a lynching of the cop and don't care that he was attacked first by Michael Brown. I would also not have indicted the cop considering the evidence that we heard about and I'm glad the grand jury didn't let public and political pressure influence their judgment. There are plenty of incidences of police going too far, but in this case he did what he needed to do to stop Michael Brown from attacking him a 2nd time. Several of the eyewitnesses said that Brown was charging the cop at the time he was killed.

yelik
25th November 2014, 08:15
Testing testing, Mind Control to Ferguson Grand Jury, Vote not guilty, vote note guilty....

giovonni
25th November 2014, 08:36
apparently someone testified they saw something up close and personnel ...

Ferguson Witnesss Told Investigators That Michael Brown Charged Cop
"Like a Football Player. Head Down" (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/darren-wilson/witnesss-said-brown-charged-wilson-897043)

giovonni
25th November 2014, 09:05
then there's this argument ...

Ferguson Grand Jury Won't Indict Officer Darren Wilson


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB0jwQ3pkKk

ulli
25th November 2014, 09:51
My houseguests left yesterday. Forensics from Missouri. They are about to retire here, as they fear for the future in the US.
They had a lot of insider knowledge to share about the Ferguson case, and about the deliberate mud stirring the media were doing. Riots will give the PTB the green light to crack down, and move forward with their agenda, finally getting to make use of those FEMA camps which have been empty for so long. Either outcome would have led to clashes. Everyone there, be safe, please.
I have come to the conclusion that the problem with this world is too much testosterone.

justntime2learn
25th November 2014, 13:12
It would seem as though most of the problems are created by a small percentage of the population. Socio/psychopath (ASPD) behavior is unlike anything a person with empathy can understand. Having ASPD means not having a conscience or use of the frontal lobes of the brain.

The best book I have found to help understand the disorder is "A sociopath next door" by Martha D. Stout

I believe Clinton and Bush 1&2 have the disorder and fear Obama does as well.

Love & Light Brother and Sisters

Snowflower
25th November 2014, 14:23
Justintime, my understanding about psychopathy is that there is no connection between the frontal lobe and the amigdala - the emotion center - of the brain. The frontal lobe works just fine as an intelligence center. It is not mental illness, ie a "disorder" that can be cured. They are not insane. The brain functions differently than that of a neurotypical.
I agree that the world is in this condition specifically because of psychopaths. I will go further and say that I believe the only way this planet will ever enter a "golden age" is if every psychopath is either dead or clearly identified and known for what he/she is. I suspect that whatever is happening to the planet with the idea of going into 4th density, or entering what NASA calls the "fluff cloud" or expanding due to unknown energies from space - whatever it is - will result in some kind of change in vibration that will drive psychopaths crazy, or make them see-able, or change DNA so they will no longer be born and we'll come out of this situation gradually, or something else that will eliminate psychopath's from the planet. I can't see any other way for humanity to survive.


It would seem as though most of the problems are created by a small percentage of the population. Socio/psychopath (ASPD) behavior is unlike anything a person with empathy can understand. Having ASPD means not having a conscience or use of the frontal lobes of the brain.

The best book I have found to help understand the disorder is "A sociopath next door" by Martha D. Stout

I believe Clinton and Bush 1&2 have the disorder and fear Obama does as well.

Love & Light Brother and Sisters

TargeT
25th November 2014, 14:39
then there's this argument ...

Ferguson Grand Jury Won't Indict Officer Darren Wilson


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB0jwQ3pkKk

I would expect NO LESS from COINTELPRO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO) infowars....

They are clearly helping to incite the disturbances "We are going to see a lot of people that are very angry, I am very angry" (racebait racebait racebait)....

I see a plan being smoothly executed not on a planned event, but an event that fit their plans (which is the usual MO).



I have come to the conclusion that the problem with this world is too much testosterone.

Not the world, just the guiding forces.

Snowflower
25th November 2014, 14:49
It isn't testosterone at all. See above. It is psychopathy. Period.

Knowrainknowrainbows!
25th November 2014, 15:23
My houseguests left yesterday. Forensics from Missouri. They are about to retire here, as they fear for the future in the US.
They had a lot of insider knowledge to share about the Ferguson case, and about the deliberate mud stirring the media were doing. Riots will give the PTB the green light to crack down, and move forward with their agenda, finally getting to make use of those FEMA camps which have been empty for so long. Either outcome would have led to clashes. Everyone there, be safe, please.
I have come to the conclusion that the problem with this world is too much testosterone.

Thanks for this share, ulli. It's a sad time ... 2014 o'clock indeed.
Too much testosterone? All are birthed from mothers last I checked, unless, well - that's another subject!

Of course, even moms have testosterone ... some more than the dad's it would seem. Hormones surely do affect behavior.

Seriously, I have felt enraged ... wanted to cause physical injury to another person at least once in my adult life ... What stopped me? A higher calling ... a "knowing" 2 wrongs NEVER make a right ... intellectual interference with emotional passion ... a desire to "outsmart" or "out-endure" the bad ... a realization that consequences not only exist, but they propagate future events ... like casting a big stone in a beautiful pristine calm lake ... ripples and wave echoes ... on and on and on ...

There are even more reasons I withheld "eye for an eye revenge" but tongue lashings ... yikes! THAT's another story ... and a behavior I'm working on ... every. single. day. I call myself a "reformed acid mouth" sometimes.

Those amygdalas can really set us up ... Thank God there's more to the brain ...if we'll only use it. Surely God is shaking her head more and more ... ;-)

Looks like it will be a while before many see/feel/know rainbows in Ferguson. My heart goes out to all suffering ... testosterone-driven or love-starved ... There is much to be learned and much work to be done. Sigh ... It's 2014 o'clock.

KRKR

justntime2learn
25th November 2014, 15:40
"Justintime, my understanding about psychopathy is that there is no connection between the frontal lobe and the amigdala - the emotion center - of the brain. The frontal lobe works just fine as an intelligence center. It is not mental illness, ie a "disorder" that can be cured. They are not insane. The brain functions differently than that of a neurotypical."

Snowflower, I completely agree with Your entire response. The problems seem to arise from the lack of ability to feel empathy, compassion, remorse, guilt or shame. These in my opinion are prerequisites to improving ones character and not repeating the same mistakes of which they are so guilty. If You can't feel bad about something you've done then what would motivate you to improve? It isn't a Psychosis rather a neurosis which in my opinion is worse but completely legal.

No cure at this time and therapy only makes them worse as I am to understand.

I understand ASPD clearly as my mother is one and my ex wife of 20 years as well.

To eliminate an entire class of people would be unfortunate however, how do you live in harmony with people that are selfish to their very core?

The percentage of ASPD is doubling in the United States every ten years according to Martha D. Stout ( A sociopath next door ). Why not everywhere else?

Love you Ulli <3

Mark
25th November 2014, 16:58
Hi Paul.

There is absolutely no surprise in the black community in regards to this ruling.

What is being seen is the desperation of a folk who have been oppressed for a long time. People with nothing, who have nothing to lose and who are sick and tired of being controlled and killed with no repercussions.

All of the legal justifications are meaningless in the face of threatened annihilation. And rest assured, these people know this is the agenda. Every single one of them. The depth of understanding goes back far beyond this recent awakening period and these actions are a continuation of a theme, where murder is justified by a legal structure that was built around the oppression of blacks.

I am not safe. My children are not safe. And I walk around every single day knowing this.

Further confirmation of this fact is not needed as my daily experience confirms it.

If you cannot understand the desperation of a Michael Brown in his circumstances, a Trayvon Martin, in his circumstances, or any of the other millions of examples of this type of sanctioned murder then you cannot understand what needs to happen in order for this nation to change, which means that you are a part of the problem, not the solution.

It is the system, people.

TargeT
25th November 2014, 17:13
If you cannot understand the desperation of a Michael Brown in his circumstances, a Trayvon Martin, in his circumstances, or any of the other millions of examples of this type of sanctioned murder then you cannot understand what needs to happen in order for this nation to change, which means that you are a part of the problem, not the solution.

It is the system, people.

You directed your message at Paul, and yet Paul said (himself) very very little about the situation, almost nothing at all.

Lets recap:

We have ignition for what could be some serious race riots in the US.




Images to go with the above headlines, and more breaking news, are available at the above Zerohedge link (and no doubt other major news sources.)

Now perhaps you were saying "you" in an all encompassing manor, but your direct "Hi Paul" does not indicate so. I see divide and conquer tactics working on you as you immediately supposed he had taken a side on it (and it wasn't your side).

But to play that game (just a bit):

I must be a part of the problem.

I'm the white you, I am an 8% minority where I live; it's very common for me to be looked down on simply because I don't fit in or am not "from here" crimes against my demographic are proportionately higher (which is just a math trick really.. statistics are tricky things). And DWW is a very common thing (Driving While White).

Yet, I would never attack another individual repeatedly with physical violence; especially someone in a costume with a firearm.

**My opinion from my own research, and what ever court transcripts / witness reports I could find**

Michael brown did this.

Trayvon Martin just attacked a random individual for "asshole" behavior.

**My opinion from my own research, and what ever court transcripts / witness reports I could find**

I think you picked two very very bad examples of where the media took a situation and spun it to their desired direction... there are MUCH better examples out there than these two cases, but those examples aren't as high profile.

You see, to successfully divide and conquer the cases that are used to divide must be "clear" to both parties... You clearly see in these two cases what I do not; it's really a brilliant tactic and does not target specifically any race or ethnicity.

It targets People, that is the system.

Oouthere
25th November 2014, 17:19
Justntime,

I agree and have read a great deal on sociopathy and psychopathy as well as have much experience in interacting with these type people.. There is no cure and they may polish their behavior but they will always look out for themselves and simply take what they can because they can.

Shadowself
25th November 2014, 17:36
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NancyV
25th November 2014, 17:50
My husband and I sold our home in Hawaii because I didn't want my son being raised in a place where there was so much racial prejudice. It was often subtle but quite prevalent where we lived in a tiny town on the Big Island. I had a choice to fight it...or to leave. I knew that it would be almost impossible to change the programming that people receive while they are growing up...to hate those of a different race or color. I grew up with no prejudices against other races, in fact my mother, sister and I all had black, hispanic and asian, etc. boyfriends and friends at different times in our lives.

With what has been going on in the last decade or so I find that it is affecting me to become more prejudiced than I have ever been. If it is a useful plan to create more and more racial divide, then it seems to be working, even on people like me who are finally getting disgusted with being blamed because I am white for slavery and racial injustices of the past. The fact is there is STILL slavery going on in Africa. When slaves began being imported into the US, they were sold by their black brothers. Every race on the planet has enslaved others of different races and even their own race at one time or another. Many countries still "enslave" people through debt bondage, serfdom, child labor, sex trafficking, forced marriages, etc etc.

If the blacks in the U.S. keep on blaming just caucasians and refuse to look at their own history of indulging in slavery, then they will continue losing all credibility. Their solution to being unhappy with the grand jury not indicting Michael Brown is to destroy other people's lives and businesses. That causes more people to be pissed off at their modus operandi and lose any empathy they might have had for remaining racial inequalities in the U.S. Why do blacks commit 440% more crimes per capita than whites....oh, right....it's the whites fault. Why are there more blacks in prison than whites?....oh, right....it's the whites fault, not that they commit the most crimes per capita.

I reached a point where I saw that my black friends were generally more racially prejudiced than my hispanic or asian friends. Of course all races are prone to having prejudices against other races. But it is the blacks who continually bring up slavery from the past when many countries in Africa still actively have slaves. I suppose I could whine about how my Scottish and Irish ancestors were treated so unfairly when they first came to this country....but that would be counter-productive and do nothing except to dwell on past injustices. I hope the blacks do not start a race war.....because they won't win it and a lot of people will die, which will probably suit the manipulators and race hustlers just fine.

Shadowself
25th November 2014, 18:02
Be mindful, political and socially aware with your language.

Notice how the mainstream news outlets are using words like riot and looting to describe the uprising in Ferguson.

What’s happening is not a riot.

The people are protesting and engaging in a justified rebellion.

They have a righteous anger and are revolting against the police who have terrorized them for years.

NancyV
25th November 2014, 18:13
Be mindful, political and socially aware with your language.

Notice how the mainstream news outlets are using words like riot and looting to describe the uprising in Ferguson.

What’s happening is not a riot.

The people are protesting and engaging in a justified rebellion.

They have a righteous anger and are revolting against the police who have terrorized them for years.

If they were really revolting against the police then why would they act as bad or worse than the police by destroying the property of innocent people? Your argument that this is justified is not logical, nor is it acceptable that they loot and vandalize indiscriminately. Peaceful protesting is the only legal and acceptable behavior. Those who are vandalizing should all be arrested.

ThePythonicCow
25th November 2014, 19:02
It is the system, people.


I think you picked two very very bad examples of where the media took a situation and spun it to their desired direction... there are MUCH better examples out there than these two cases, but those examples aren't as high profile.

You see, to successfully divide and conquer the cases that are used to divide must be "clear" to both parties... You clearly see in these two cases what I do not; it's really a brilliant tactic and does not target specifically any race or ethnicity.

It targets People, that is the system.

I didn't distinguish my views from those implied by what I posted, so it's entirely reasonable in my view that Rahkyt addressed me when he was rebutting the "message" of the above "news" reports that I posted.

In my view, both blacks and cops are being destroyed by the system, and being driven to fear (real, life-threatening, fear) of the other. Black families and communities, and the civilian, community supporting, police forces, have both been devastated. They are in part being turned on each other, as part of the crisis creation being used to usher in the next round our enslavement.

As best as I can tell, all three of us are in considerable agreement on at least some of this :).

Mark
25th November 2014, 19:06
I always address Paul in his threads. It is a point of respect. He knows I am not talking about him personally. In regards to your other points TargeT I am well aware of your positions on these issues and have no interest in going back and forth with you on race. We agree on many things but not this. Thank you for sharing them. As I said it comes down to compassion. Understanding. Living what is believed.

justntime2learn
25th November 2014, 19:19
I welcome all the comments and enjoy my opportunity to learn from so many perspectives.

I can't help but think we should look beyond the "black and white" thing and look at a bigger picture that threatens all of us. Eroding rights and a militarized "police" seem to be an issue in itself as well as a government that has completely lost touch with its people. How do we fix it ?

I'm still trying to figure out when demonstrating became illegal in the USA. Could it have been when Obama signed the bill limiting free speech ?

Love & Light <3

[Mod Edit: Removed potentially hazardous material from your post; Hervé]

Tesla_WTC_Solution
25th November 2014, 19:24
Paul, thank you for this thread.

People really forget what things were like in America before suffrage and emancipation. Two words that make many uneducated white men shudder.

We did not have TV or tabloids to scream headlines "Rosewood Burned to Ground" when whites rioted. We didn't have Amnesty International or the ACLU.

Women, children, and the elderly had to hide in the woods from whites with dogs and rifles, because a white man raped a white woman and blamed it on a black man.

I agree that the Main-Stream-Media OWNERS intentionally stirred the racial pot until it was boiling over. There were just too many weird things going on this week.

The Fraternities closing due to all the rapes, the Cosby controversy, etc.


These are not cut-and-dry black/white issues here.

These are fundamental respect-for-human-life issues where SOMEONE in our society is really failing hard.






“Be of good cheer. Do not think of today's failures, but of the success that may come tomorrow. You have set yourselves a difficult task, but you will succeed if you persevere; and you will find a joy in overcoming obstacles. Remember, no effort that we make to attain something beautiful is ever lost.”
― Helen Keller


“Nothing in the world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty… I have never in my life envied a human being who led an easy life. I have envied a great many people who led difficult lives and led them well.”
― Theodore Roosevelt



Stop blaming the black people:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_Massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_race_riot







What former Seattle Police Chief has to say about police violence: SORRY


VICE: The images we've seen coming out of Ferguson over the last week are reminiscent of the ones we saw 15 years ago at the WTO protests in Seattle, when you were the police chief there. At that time, you almost immediately regretted your decision to use tear gas, flash bang grenades, and other military-grade hardware against the protesters, and resigned the day after the ministerial ended. What comes to mind as you watch the Ferguson police make essentially the same mistakes that you made?

Norm Stamper: A whole lot of heartbreak, and I have to admit to some irritation, and some righteous anger. It seems like the rest of the country is hell-bent—I think back to the Occupy movement, for example, and the May Day demonstration—that so many police departments seem to outdo themselves in not paying attention to the lessons of WTO. I made, personally, the biggest mistake of my career that week. If you're looking for a prescription of what to do wrong, you need look no further.



the police are NOT ALWAYS NECESSARY (!)

They are always LOOKING FOR TROUBLE (!)

p.s. J I love that song :llama:

TargeT
25th November 2014, 19:54
I always address Paul in his threads. It is a point of respect. He knows I am not talking about him personally. In regards to your other points TargeT I am well aware of your positions on these issues and have no interest in going back and forth with you on race. We agree on many things but not this. Thank you for sharing them. As I said it comes down to compassion. Understanding. Living what is believed.


Really because I'm not very well aware of my position on this topic, I do have a position on what I feel your position is (haha, if that even makes sense) but it could just come from a misunderstanding of your position.

I understand what you were trying to articulate with this statement:


It is the system, people.

But the way it was delivered is what I have an issue with, it seems very closed and final; negative in a untouchable way and inclusive of me in a way that prevents response which is frustrating. Perhaps I'm internalizing too much.

I think (and could be very wrong) what you were trying to convey is better (again my opinion) demonstrated here:
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I hope you wont shut me out, I don't think this is a terrible topic to explore (and in light of the OP fairly on topic).

I would like to believe I am compassionate and understanding; but perhaps that doesn't apply to me in this situation and if that is so I wouldn't mind correcting it if possible.

MESHUGENE
25th November 2014, 20:05
please pay attention that in this case, the fire was started by a military weapon on the right side, and NOT by the demonstrators!

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/BD434160111148886768632971264_34acc0fb22a.0.1.14399993050814546582.mp4?versionId=kGQDrQt1535H.0kUtl4 79hLIkfnShhKT

TargeT
25th November 2014, 20:11
please pay attention that in this case, the fire was started by a military weapon on the right side, and NOT by the demonstrators!

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/BD434160111148886768632971264_34acc0fb22a.0.1.14399993050814546582.mp4?versionId=kGQDrQt1535H.0kUtl4 79hLIkfnShhKT

I don't see that at all in the video, but wouldn't be surprised that agent provocateur are being used to escalate this situation.

But then I'm of a mind set that this a purposefully fanned flame and the desired out come IS riots and racial confrontation. I do not see this as very organic, not when there are so many other cases of police violence against the black community (and more "clear" cases as well).

MESHUGENE
25th November 2014, 20:28
look at the projectile coming HORIZONTALLY from the right side

TargeT
25th November 2014, 20:35
look at the projectile coming HORIZONTALLY from the right side

I hear rifle shots and see light artifacts from a camera phone or crappy video camera, the fire that is shown in the video has been burning for a while. I'm pretty well versed in conventional weaponry, nothing would make that noise and cause that much fire. it just doesn't fit.

justntime2learn
25th November 2014, 20:38
I don't know if I'm more ashamed of being a white man or living in Oregon.

Hurry inner peace I haven't got all day ;)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/24/portland-facebook-darren-wilson/70051918/

PORTLAND, Ore. -- The chief of Portland, Ore.'s police on Monday ordered three officers to remove"I am Darren Wilson" images from their Facebook pages.

The image in question refers to the officer who shot and killed 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri on Aug. 9. An "I am Darren Wilson" bracelet is shown wrapped around a Portland Police Bureau badge.

PPB Chief Michael Reese and Mayor Charlie Hales issued statements about the Facebook posts on Monday morning, just hours before a grand jury decision would likely be announced in the case.

MICHAEL BROWN SHOOTING: Ferguson grand jury makes decision

"I was alerted to these images this morning and immediately ordered their removal through the officers' chain of command," Reese said. "The image displayed does not represent this organization and was very inflammatory in nature. Officers certainly have a right to have and express their opinions but not using an official badge of the Portland Police Bureau.".

Hales said the city had been working with community leaders to help keep the peace no matter what the grand jury announces. He said the actions of these three officers would not help reach that goal.

More: Portland police ready for Ferguson grand jury decision

"The officers made a political statement by altering the city's official badges. They were wrong to do so," the mayor said. "Their actions do a disservice to the hundreds of Portland police officers who are building relationships and partnerships with the community every day."

Reese said the PPB Professional Standards Division will review the matter to determine if any policies were violated.

In September, the Justice Department pressured officials in and around Ferguson, Mo. to prohibit their police forces from wearing "I am Darren Wilson" wristbands, which an official for the Justice Department wrote "reinforce the very 'us versus them' mentality that many residents of Ferguson believe exist."

MORE ON MICHAEL BROWN SHOOTING

What we know about Ferguson today

In pictures: Ferguson prepares for grand jury verdict

MESHUGENE
25th November 2014, 20:40
look at the projectile coming HORIZONTALLY from the right side

nothing would make that noise and cause that much fire. it just doesn't fit.


agree,
this is a good link;
http://thepunditpress.com/2014/11/24/massive-violence-looting-breaks-out-in-ferguson-now-with-pictures-video/

while the MSM 'journalists' run away, the alternative media journalists.....reported.

TargeT
25th November 2014, 20:49
look at the projectile coming HORIZONTALLY from the right side

nothing would make that noise and cause that much fire. it just doesn't fit.


agree,
this is a good link;
http://thepunditpress.com/2014/11/24/massive-violence-looting-breaks-out-in-ferguson-now-with-pictures-video/

while the MSM 'journalists' run away, the alternative media journalists.....reported.


Now that, I just don't understand. I can SEE the interpretation of the black community (stirred up by the media etc..) I can see the anger, but what does ****ing up everything in sight have to do with that? What is going on is a bunch of opportunistic looting and rioting where a possibly good reason is being used to do things that just don't "help the cause".

Everyone will have their own interpretation of events, a lot of people involved won't even think its about the shooting, reminds me of this:


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Except in THAT situation I think there was greatly justified anger.

MESHUGENE
25th November 2014, 20:59
[QUOTE=TargeT;905592][QUOTE=MESHUGENE;905588]look at the projectile coming HORIZONTALLY from the right side

Except in THAT situation I think there was greatly justified anger.


you have to look at the BIG picture
members in this forum are well informed about falls flags.
these events are all pointing in ONLY one direction; at Al Sharpton, the democratic party and Obama.
if Obama will not be impeached immediately, we are looking at a civil war

this was just posted,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAsPlpaNdNU&list=UUFjOi1ZpZVErr8EYxg8t1dQ

TargeT
25th November 2014, 23:01
[QUOTE=TargeT;905592][QUOTE=MESHUGENE;905588]look at the projectile coming HORIZONTALLY from the right side

Except in THAT situation I think there was greatly justified anger.


you have to look at the BIG picture
members in this forum are well informed about falls flags.
these events are all pointing in ONLY one direction; at Al Sharpton, the democratic party and Obama.
if Obama will not be impeached immediately, we are looking at a civil war

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Wow, a L O T of people are going to jail over this, with how much video and photographic coverage there will be the follow on arrests are going to be astounding....

this is NOT 1992, I hope if anything shady is happening it will be caught onto (as it seems is quite often the case lately) via independent coverage.


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Mark
26th November 2014, 00:00
Hi Paul, hope this post is not too far off topic. TargeT:


I hope you wont shut me out, I don't think this is a terrible topic to explore (and in light of the OP fairly on topic).

I would like to believe I am compassionate and understanding; but perhaps that doesn't apply to me in this situation and if that is so I wouldn't mind correcting it if possible.

Fair enough. My earlier comment was made on a phone, at work and so brief of necessity. No time or the space to go in depth as I generally do.

I'm going to make the attempt now and address you directly. You stated that you would like to believe you are compassionate and understanding. Ok, I'm going to make some points that I'd like to discuss with you here in this thread, if it is not too far off the OP. If so, Paul, I am sure you will move it and that is fine. Let's see how it goes:

You should not internalize my comments ever. They are not about you as a man. I would not say such things about you as we both came to Avalon at the same time, we've interacted numerous times before and I know you are a good dude at heart. If I thought differently you'd know it already. My statements are generalizations and so fit relatively few fully. There is an old saying that only hit dogs bark. If you feel it necessary to comment emotionally on posts not addressed to you and to internalize them as if they were, for me to respond similarly would lead to reactionary and downward-spiraling recriminations and that is so not me.

Watched about half that video. Don't need to watch more as that has been my life. This is not abstract to me nor a show, or movie. None of it. It is my experience, not something distant, something happening to someone else on a tv or in that neighborhood I try not to pass through. It is present and ongoing. An experiential continuum that did not start yesterday and will not end tomorrow. It is my life. I have had relatively benign experiences with cops, but I have also had harrowing experiences as well, to include dogs, being surrounded by 5 and more cops with hands on and near weapons, waiting for me to make a wrong move. Reasonless traffic stops, being singled out in groups, getting in trouble for things my white friends did as well while they did not, being followed in stores, stopped for being in the "wrong" neighborhoods, targeted for racial abuse by individuals, by groups, chased, bullied and and have had violence and attempted violence performed against me, handcuffs on my wrists, the back of a cop car in my memory. None of this is abstract to me. Not a bit of it.

This has been my life. Me. Peaceful Rahkyt. 6'4, 220 pounds of soul in a black man's body. A perceived threat. To individuals and the system, apparently, judging by the looks I get almost every single day and that I know for a fact those who look like me receive as well. Designated other by design.

Now. Being where you are TargeT, a white man in a predominantly black country, perhaps you get some sense of what that must be like. Now extrapolate what you've been experiencing for a year or so now, to an entire lifetime. To your childhood, growing up with some of the things I've mentioned as your formative experience. Experienced not sporadically or haphazardly but in a continuous fashion from strangers and from those who know you or see you every day. Getting looks that you come to recognize instinctively, being on the receiving end of actions, words. Try really hard to feel, for a moment, what that must be like.

Then think of how you would respond. What your perception of the world would be like if your synaptic connections forming your neural net had had this kind of negative reinforcement over the entire course of your lifetime. Then think of Mike Brown. Trayvon. Faced with a cop after you've left a store after purchasing a cigar or some candy, paid for it, to be confronted by this dude in uniform or a vigilante, with his hand near or on his gun, looking at you with aggression in his eyes. After living a lifetime in the neighborhoods they have been living in, surrounded by people who have had negative experiences with the police, certainly having witnessed injustices themselves and hearing about others experiences of such. Personally knowing people who've been abused psychologically and violently by public servants and who've gone to jail for things that other populations don't even worry about or consider. Living also in a location where the opportunities around you are not commiserate with those of the greater population of the city, state or nation.

Being who I am and with my experiences, I am divorced from these issues and so have not become emotionally engaged in this current false flag event. But, that is because I've done the psychological and spiritual work to move to a different space of being. Hard years of trauma, pain, tears, realizations, meditations, psychic experiences that bring psychological issues to the fore, which are then examined and confronted at the base level of mind and ego, personal and collective traumas recognized and, hopefully - to some greater or lesser degree - overcome. The path is continuous and personal vigilance remains mandatory. It is necessary for me to watch my thoughts, my internal chatter and making sure to remain present and aware. For all who want to live a conscious life, this type of self-awareness is necessary.

With that said, the immediacy of these issues remains personal, i.e. relevant to my life personally in the form of family and friends. Knowing what my children will experience is enough to rouse my emotions. Is enough to rouse many's emotions on all sides of every issue. Fear is the mindkiller. The choices pertaining to what I do with those emotions is something that I am constantly aware of and am generally in control of.

But that is not the case with most people. When I speak on these issues, again, I am speaking, in general, of most people. I am not the median or mean. I am an outlier. But that does not mean that I do not understand intimately what is going on around me. I can write for hours on the psychology of these issues we are currently facing, the history, the geography. I am currently addressing some of them directly in my Obama thread.

Finally, what I perceive by reading others words is sometimes correct, sometimes not. PA is a microcosm of the world, albeit a rather aware sub-population of the world. But as should be clear, we are still mired in the world around us, the paradigm of White Supremacy. Having to live a life where you constantly have to be aware of other people's perceptions of you can induce paranoia, but it can also make you a good judge of character and give you the perceptive ability to understand code words, phrases, subtle looks, body movements, inflections and variations of attitude. Even in a text environment such as PA or other online forums, it is possible to read people's intentions beneath their words and statements.

We all live in the midst of this system and we know the deeper workings of it as so many do not. When we take on certain perspectives, we risk being conflated with other people that have those same perspectives. If we consider ourselves to be consciously awaken and aware, perhaps that gives us a responsibility to others who consider themselves such to be the best people we can be, so as to adequately "represent" this diversity while still being true to who we are. Who we are in this instance not necessarily being the sum total of our experiences living within the Matrix and the personality complex that sprung from that, but to truly be AWAKE in the classic sense, AWARE in the holistic sense, and CONSCIOUS in the deeper, spiritual way. To take on the responsibility of examining our deeper understandings in order to see where we still collude with the system consciously and unconsciously in support of that system and, also, this paradigmatic struggle of opposites.

And this is on both sides, all sides, of all issues. Because representative democracy, and Western society in general, employs the hegelian dialectic to great effect and both revolution and evolution are part of the system. These protesters right now are a part of the system, as are the cops. They are accounted for and predicted. So this response, as we all know, is also part of the system.

I don't mind sharing who I am if that helps others to understand a perspective different from theirs. These are serious times. And if we, here in this space, cannot see past the programming, what hope does the world have?

Bless.

jerry
26th November 2014, 00:02
Videos: Rioters Target Establishment Media

"Mainstream" reporters pelted with rocks and trash
http://www.infowars.com/videos-rioters-target-establishment-media/

While I don't condone the violence, I cant help to be amused at this story because in my mind they are one of the biggest immediate problems our society faces

jerry
26th November 2014, 00:06
please pay attention that in this case, the fire was started by a military weapon on the right side, and NOT by the demonstrators!

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/BD434160111148886768632971264_34acc0fb22a.0.1.14399993050814546582.mp4?versionId=kGQDrQt1535H.0kUtl4 79hLIkfnShhKT
I don't see that at all in the video, but wouldn't be surprised that agent provocateur are being used to escalate this situation.

But then I'm of a mind set that this a purposefully fanned flame and the desired out come IS riots and racial confrontation. I do not see this as very organic, not when there are so many other cases of police violence against the black community (and more "clear" cases as well).In my mind set as well I would point you to this article I found today
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-25/forget-ferguson-244-teenagers-have-been-shot-chicago-michael-brown-died

Star Tsar
26th November 2014, 00:10
Why has no one mentioned (over the three or four threads covering this issue)this case which happened just yesterday also?
A 12 Year Old CHILD IN A PLAYGROUND! Where I am sure there where other children playing who will now be traumatised.

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jerry
26th November 2014, 00:19
Be mindful, political and socially aware with your language.

Notice how the mainstream news outlets are using words like riot and looting to describe the uprising in Ferguson.

What’s happening is not a riot.

The people are protesting and engaging in a justified rebellion.

They have a righteous anger and are revolting against the police who have terrorized them for years.

If they were really revolting against the police then why would they act as bad or worse than the police by destroying the property of innocent people? Your argument that this is justified is not logical, nor is it acceptable that they loot and vandalize indiscriminately. Peaceful protesting is the only legal and acceptable behavior. Those who are vandalizing should all be arrested.
Its a lot of distraught individuals who have no other viable recourse. They have entered the fray with the full knowledge of the sacrifice they may well be facing even death . But when your at the end of the rope and all the political forces against you. What choice do they have because pleas of peace and justice fall on deaf ears. TPTB have done well in fanning the flame and moving the nation into the chaos. Total domination and control is now warranted as martial law ensues. Just what TPTB ask for

TargeT
26th November 2014, 00:35
I don't mind sharing who I am if that helps others to understand a perspective different from theirs. These are serious times. And if we, here in this space, cannot see past the programming, what hope does the world have?

Bless.

Ok, that makes more sense (I too was at work and floating several projects so maybe I didn't read your response as it was meant) I think this is exactly the case, especially if AI or advanced algorithmic prediction (and remote viewing or any of the other exotic tools) are being used to guide public perception (and with Facebook / Youtube they have the MOST AMAZING feedback loop (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/feedback+loop) ever created for guiding a society).

In these situations, with the societal trauma of certain populations (as you explained above) triggered and all the rest coming to bear I can only wonder what the Hegelian "solution" will be. I do not remember the 92 riots, I was only 12 or 13 and didn't even have TV; but I think examining that might give us an idea of what to expect especially if this situation continues to escalate.

This type of maneuver is a bit awe (with a heavy hint of dread) inspiring, I'm not sure how it could be stopped by those (which I assume we are) that have stepped or placed themselves out side of the direct influence.

ThePythonicCow
26th November 2014, 00:37
This is not abstract to me nor a show, or movie. None of it. It is my experience, not something distant, something happening to someone else on a tv or in that neighborhood I try not to pass through. It is present and ongoing.
Yeah - I've caught fleeting glimpses of the other side of that myself - being obviously white.

The dehumanization of blacks runs deep in the veins of some whites, too many of whom are now wearing police uniforms, in overly militarized police organizations where they are being pumped up with training, weapons, steroids and propaganda, to shoot first and ask questions tell lies later.

Someone seems to be striving mightily to start a serious "forest fire", of people and inner cities, not trees, in America.

jerry
26th November 2014, 01:15
In the 92 riots the acquittal of the officers was misrepresented by the media. The events that led up to their acquittal was not shared with the public even to this day MSM it cant be seen . All we saw was the post action of their beat down . The video shown to jurors was instrumental in their decision but it left the population in the dark as it was never aired.( top reason for the riots as justification never presented as it was too the jurors) This was one of the first attempts to Federalize the police and take power same going on tonight .

The State Senator stated This Is St Louis’ Race War

"We didn't have a race war like other cities throughout the U.S. This is our race war"

Strictly media propaganda the political hacks are doing their best to make it that , but thats not it . Its the people against the establishment PERIOD

giovonni
26th November 2014, 01:15
Documents: New Details Emerge in Brown Shooting

Published on Nov 25, 2014


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea6WBkHa3L8


Now if one is to believe the Michael Brown shooting was a result of a general atmospheric discontent of a national systematic and cultural divide in the United States ...

Then i believe this incident (in the Brown shooting aftermath) provides a much more revealing reality of the Black community's real mistrust and concerns with the greater St Louis metro police agencies ...


The St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department has released mobile phone footage that seems to be at odds with parts of its story surrounding the officer-involved shooting of Kajieme Powell in the weeks after Michael Brown’s death.

According to St. Louis Public Radio, the police released the video Wednesday evening as part of an effort to be more transparent when it comes to violent incidents involving law enforcement. In addition to the cell phone footage, the department also released security camera footage of the alleged robbery, as well as the two 911 calls made to police.

Police were first called to the scene – less than four miles away from the spot Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old, was killed – when a local store owner reported the 25-year-old Powell for stealing drinks and snacks. A separate woman, meanwhile, also reported Powell for allegedly having a knife in his pocket and acting strangely.

As RT noted previously, St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said Powell was brandishing a knife and ignored commands to drop it. Dotson said Powell approached the officers carrying the knife “in an aggressive manner,” with an overhand grip, and was shot when he came within three or four feet of police.

GRAPHIC: St Louis police officer shoots Kajieme Powell

Published on Aug 21, 2014


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEuZiTcbGCg

ulli
26th November 2014, 01:18
Life can be ironic. I haven't followed every last detail of the case, but still tried to look at it from both sides.
Truth is more important to me than the race card.
If the Darren Wilson version is true then we have a case of Murphy's Law....
a case not clear-cut enough for everyone to go home and carry on with their lives.

With all that technology why couldn't they make a clone of Wilson, and simply allow him to be lynched...
To allow the kids to let off some steam. Nothing, but nothing, has been done to prevent or diffuse collective anger.
Are they that desperate to get Martial Law going, and fill their FEMA camps?
If it gets any worse, and I believe it will, then I really suggest to Rahkyt to try and apply for a job at the University of the West Indies, in any of the islands. There he could finally feel the respect he deserves, as a member of a majority.
The white kids in Barbados are currently drowning in hedonism and decadence while the black kids are all going out of their way to get the best education possible. It's something to behold.

Curious77
26th November 2014, 01:18
Not only should Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson have been indicted, but the entire Police Department in
Ferguson should be closed and all the officers dismissed.

They did this in a town neighboring Ferguson -- and quite a few of the officers, including Wilson (as I recall) were
picked up by the Ferguson Police Department.





We have ignition for what could be some serious race riots in the US.

Mark
26th November 2014, 01:43
Ok, that makes more sense (I too was at work and floating several projects so maybe I didn't read your response as it was meant) I think this is exactly the case, especially if AI or advanced algorithmic prediction (and remote viewing or any of the other exotic tools) are being used to guide public perception (and with Facebook / Youtube they have the MOST AMAZING feedback loop (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/feedback+loop) ever created for guiding a society).

Yes, Grip mentioned that in passing in my Obama thread, in regards to PTB positioning and their ability to account for a large proportion of the potential outcomes in situations such as these. FB is indeed an excellent social indicator but also a social predictor. The videos people collectively peruse in YT are broken down even further by the stats they have available. I'm a YT partner and I have access to how long my videos are being watched, which part the people liked the best, of course where they are from, whether they are male or female. I can only imagine the algorhythms that they have employed in the processing of all that live data and what use they are putting it all too. To believe all this information is just used to place ads is ludicrous.


In these situations, with the societal trauma of certain populations (as you explained above) triggered and all the rest coming to bear I can only wonder what the Hegelian "solution" will be. I do not remember the 92 riots, I was only 12 or 13 and didn't even have TV; but I think examining that might give us an idea of what to expect especially if this situation continues to escalate.

This type of maneuver is a bit awe (with a heavy hint of dread) inspiring, I'm not sure how it could be stopped by those (which I assume we are) that have stepped or placed themselves out side of the direct influence.

92, that was OJ, right? Yeh. Speaking of influential black men accepted by white America, what hasn't been mentioned is the timing of the Cosby "revelation" and how "America's Favorite Dad" has been revealed to be such a corrupting influence on the women he preyed upon. The MSM has had this information for years. They have known what he was doing, but rather than being prosecuted for it years ago, his perceived "power" and "influence" supposedly kept him and his nasty antics out of the spotlight.

Wrong. He never had any power and influence. What he possessed, was media sanctioning, which was granted to him by the Hollywood Elite and the MSM. He served a purpose, fit a need and performed his duties well, as all actors must. Now that he is no longer useful, he has been thrown to the dogs at an opportune time to show White America that even "America's Favorite Dad", perhaps the most trusted black man in the country, is corrupt at heart, a lecher and a rapist. We know already that this is their modus operandi, to hide away the bad behavior of their puppets, allowing them to lengthen the chain, to perform atrocities, further placing themselves under the power of their controllers. His time is up and he is now to serve another purpose.

Perfect timing to sway the opinions of even those who are generally not susceptible to such obvious plays.

I think it should be obvious how this relates to Ferguson and current issues. We've got these two events, bitter disappointment and anger at "America's Favorite Dad", alongside images of Ferguson Rioters/Looters/Revolutionaries, alongside the nation's president, Obama as "Other/Stranger", further alienating white America, and more and more events continue to pound in the targeted message in the targeted population by the day. More deaths, more disappointments, more manipulation by way of the MSM of the collective zeitgeist, trending it invariably toward fear and the acceptance of this country's traditionally oppressed minority as the Eternal Enemy.

They seek to lull white America into accepting their prescribed draconian measures and to "act" as the jailers for the concentration camps, much the same as occurred back in the early 1700s when the formulation of the "white race" first began, when the indentured servants of Irish and other nominally European peoples took on the roles of cops, plantation overseers, etc., were granted land and privileges, for the purpose of creating a formalized oppressor population in order to control the blacks and the natives.

Why change what works?

TargeT
26th November 2014, 02:08
92, that was OJ, right?

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They seek to lull white America into accepting their prescribed draconian measures and to "act" as the jailers for the concentration camps, much the same as occurred back in the early 1700s when the formulation of the "white race" first began, when the indentured servants of Irish and other nominally European peoples took on the roles of cops, plantation overseers, etc., were granted land and privileges, for the purpose of creating a formalized oppressor population in order to control the blacks and the natives.

Why change what works?

I think this extends beyond just the USA, I think since the USA has been "#1" for so long (looked up to as the world police, the financial lead, the entertainment lead etc etc etc...) that in order to shift the power base to a global hegemony the US will have to spiral out of control and look to be itself the problem (ie police violence, citizen revolt etc. etc. etc.) we could be seeing one of the soon to be cumulative effects that will help first destroy the reputation of the US globally (while it's currency is already clearly being debased).

With all these short(ish) term predictions for the financial shift and whisperings of the UN needing to have absolute say over many topics I think this might be / could be one of the steps to shake the foundations of the US. It's too early to tell but if this escalates greatly I'll definitely think the above is the case.

the NWO will not happen in the current global setting, there will have to be more turmoil, more disruption; a call globally to "stop" the chaos with an over arching control structure (the good old UN) and to stabilize the financial structure (with the already well established SDR). The Hegelian dialect for the NWO is not fully played out yet and this may be a component of it, I think the nation based plans have been swept aside with this larger consolidation action in mind.

But then, if nothing else these things seem to not care much about timeline and have amazing patience and forethought, so you could be very right; the goal is local.

Poly Hedra
26th November 2014, 02:35
OK lets break it down to the basics. I apologise in advance if I come across as curt, I dont mean to be, just a bit peed off because of the blatent lies coming out of the media which even people here are falling for.
I realise that everyone here has no interest in the mainstream media but I notice a few deeply intrenched beliefs all the same.

Also as a white Irish woman, who has never experienced being treated differently because of the body and country I was born into (except sexism) I have no basis to make a judgement on how it is to live like this all day every day of your natural life....the way Rahykt described his experience is what I'm talking about here. If a black person tells me this is how it is, then this is how it is, period! How can I possibly have any idea? How can I disagree with somebody elses experience? They experience life this way, I have no basis whatsoever to say "oh no your wrong, its like this or that" etc etc. Wow!



When the London riots happened I was living there and experienced a little bit of the chaos on both sides, the looting and the coming together of communities who never spoke before.
Why did it happen? Just some thugs out to get some free sh!t? Mindless teenagers who dont know any better? No.

I have been following the events in Ferguson very closely since the very beginning, also, I am an avid follower of copblock.org and I have been up to date with every single incident of police violence and murder on blacks, homeless, mentally ill and the other vulnerable people in the USA. There are a hell of a lot! Not just blacks but they get it from day one.

I stayed up til 5am watching a live UStream feed of the events in Ferguson, a local black guy who just walked around with his camera phone. At one point there were 90,000 people watching live, now thats a crazy amount of people to be watching some guys camera feed. My guess is that the people watching wanted the real story, like me.

Since August the protests were at first peaceful, the police incited the violence, slowly but surely it got to this. Weeks of powerlessness.

“When you cut facilities, slash jobs, abuse power, discriminate, drive people into deeper poverty and shoot people dead whilst refusing to provide answers or justice, the people will rise up and express their anger and frustration if you refuse to hear their cries. A riot is the language of the unheard.”

— Dr. Martin Luther King

I watched the protesters being blocked from what was initially a peaceful protest. There were lines of police in riot gear blocking access to streets, only problem was the other direction was blocked too. So all people could do was mill around and wait. THEN I watched as the police shouted at the crowd with a megaphone, to disperse. Then approximately 10 minutes later they fired about 8 tear gas cannisters. The tear gas kept coming and coming, the mainstream media was gassed too.
I watched and listened as people around discussed the fact that no fire fighters were to be seen anywhere. The fires were left to burn. The national guard were there too but they just stood around with their guns ready to pounce.
Have you ever been surrounded by police in riot gear? I have and whether they do nothing but stand there it is intimidating all the same, they look like robots, like they have no emotions.
I watched people with nothing to lose scream at the police, "is this Iraq?, "Getting ready to go into Fallujah?"

I watched as cars were set alight, I watched as buildings burned.

Now obviously there are always going to be thugs who are out to wreck it for the peaceful protest. There were people throwing stuff and other people in the crowd were shouting at the police "hey get your undercover agent provocateur to stop throwing things!" I'm not saying that everyone who destroyed the cars and set buildings on fire were all agent provacateurs but we have to assume there were a couple, no?

Here are a few articles you may have missed, they may sway opinion on whether this is another tantrum by mindless thugs:


U.N. urges U.S. to stop police brutality after Missouri shooting
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/29/us-usa-missouri-shooting-un-idUSKBN0GT1ZQ20140829
(Reuters) - The U.N. racism watchdog urged the United States on Friday to halt the excessive use of force by police after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager by a white policeman touched off riots in Ferguson, Missouri.

Minorities, particularly African Americans, are victims of disparities, the U.N. Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) said after examining the U.S. record.

"Racial and ethnic discrimination remains a serious and persistent problem in all areas of life from de facto school segregation, access to health care and housing," Noureddine Amir, CERD committee vice chairman, told a news briefing.

Teenager Michael Brown was shot dead by a white police officer on Aug. 9, triggering violent protests that rocked Ferguson - a St. Louis suburb - and shone a global spotlight on the state of race relations in America.

"The excessive use of force by law enforcement officials against racial and ethnic minorities is an ongoing issue of concern and particularly in light of the shooting of Michael Brown," said Amir, an expert from Algeria.


Michael Brown's parents to testify before UN about Ferguson police violence
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/10/michael-brown-parents-un-police-target-human-rights


Suffice to say I am opinionated on this matter.

Tesseract
26th November 2014, 02:36
I suppose I am rather different from your average conservative American. For, actually, I rather have admiration for the late Mr Brown. He fearlessly resisted one of the ranks that have victimised, harassed and institutionalised the cruel oppression of black people in black areas. Was this particular cop one of the good guys? Of course it’s possible that at an individual level he was, but the racially-profiling, bullying police force that he serves is vile and resistance to that by the oppressed ought to be saluted.

I reject this polemically feeble nonsense, that some people are trying to inculcate the interested with, that violation of the law renders one’s life dispensable. Remember that criminal down in Nevada, Cliven Bundy? Did US conservatives abandon and disdain this fellow because he was a law-breaker? Of course not. Cliven Bundy wasn’t black – and the sanctity of law is dependent on race, no? In fact, I’m quite sure that Fox used its media power to rally support for Mr Bundy, despite his law-breaking ways and despite the threats made by the militias who supported him.

I don’t know about everyone else, but it seems to me like the crimes (alleged) of Mr Brown are rather trivial compared to those (confirmed) of Mr Bundy. It also seems to me that the threat of Mr Brown’s chubby 18 year old hands were pretty small compared to the threat of automatic high velocity rifles in the hands of pre-meditating anti-government militias.

Why do conservative Americans get so outraged when black people are angry about a perceived injustice? Why are white people allowed to advocate anti-government, anti police state sentiment, but those behind the cause for black equality are not? Who are these 2nd amendment hypocrite dullards who maintain that they should be able to own weapons so that they can slaughter government forces should the people ever feel oppressed, while black people should expect no apology for being killed if they in the smallest way resist the same oppression?

Why is the burning down of a pizza store more objectionable than the incarceration, harassment and denigration of an entire ethnic group? I don’t care about the damned pizza store, nor the auto-parts store, nor the f-ing McDonalds. This is collateral damage in what is a great up-welling of anger and resistance. And every squad car that gets burned is one less predator prowling the streets looking for people to throw in jail. Sadly this resistance may only lead to a deepening of the depression, but that is not to say that burning a squad car is not justified.

And why is everyone suddenly concerned about division? I don’t want to be unified with a bunch of conservative bigots. That is the division. I saw plenty of white protesters out on the streets there, and other non-black ethnicities too.

These conservatives/racists have been increasingly making me sick in recent weeks and I have been thinking about making a thread even before now. One by one the libertarian/republican conservatives I know in real life have exposed themselves to be closet racists, using the term wetback, virtually advocating expulsion of blacks and exhibiting clear xenophobic traits whenever foreign countries are under discussion. Then you have the internet world. This is something else. Did anyone follow livestreams during the riot? If you did you would have seen in the chat windows an endless stream of anti-black racist vomit scrolling down your screen for the duration. The same sub-human bigoted nonsense you see in right-wing ‘freedom’ alternative forums, chats, google hangouts, youtube comments and even in online gaming. It’s everywhere. I don’t know how black people can set foot online without their state of mind being affected. Maybe this is why so few join what we call the alternative community. I’m not necessarily going to debate anyone who disagrees with my stance (and I am not keeping any particular forum members in my thoughts while writing this), for I’m not going to change their mind, and I can’t be bothered qualifying every little point that I have made here which might be put out of context or misinterpreted. Just sharing my thoughts, thanks for reading.

Poly Hedra
26th November 2014, 02:44
why is the burning down of a pizza store more objectionable than the incarceration, harassment and denigration of an entire ethnic group? I don’t care about the damned pizza store, nor the auto-parts store, nor the f-ing mcdonalds. This is collateral damage in what is a great up-welling of anger and resistance. And every squad car that gets burned is one less predator prowling the streets looking for people to throw in jail. Sadly this resistance may only lead to a deepening of the depression, but that is not to say that burning a squad car is not justified.

And why is everyone suddenly concerned about division? I don’t want to be unified with a bunch of conservative bigots. That is the division. I saw plenty of white protesters out on the streets there, and other non-black ethnicities too.

here here!!

Mark
26th November 2014, 03:05
The dehumanization of blacks runs deep in the veins of some whites, too many of whom are now wearing police uniforms, in overly militarized police organizations where they are being pumped up with training, weapons, steroids and propaganda, to shoot first and ask questions tell lies later.

Someone seems to be striving mightily to start a serious "forest fire", of people and inner cities, not trees, in America.

Yes...for the reasons we are already quite aware of. Unfortunately, the masses of people are all too ready to fall for it and to contribute to the increasing mayhem. Years of pent up anger and aggression based on many issues concerning the root issues of economics and basic safety and stability are being channeled into a very dangerous direction for a very specific agenda.

At this point, with the intensity of the propaganda and the mobilization of the military resources in a civilian context, they are slamming the entire population with triggers and it will take a superhuman effort to transcend this narrative.


If it gets any worse, and I believe it will, then I really suggest to Rahkyt to try and apply for a job at the University of the West Indies, in any of the islands. There he could finally feel the respect he deserves, as a member of a majority.

Much love, sistersoul. I agree that it does appear to be quickly deteriorating. I would appreciate being in the Islands, as we have discussed before, not just for the population distribution, but for the weather! I think Sira and my children would love it as well. When I left Canada, Sira and I discussed these very issues directly and in-depth. I knew that this was coming. That this was where we were headed. But I felt that I had to finish my dissertation, first of all, but also, that I was supposed to be down here for something else. Right now, I do still feel that urge, but at the same time, I have no idea what I can do, personally, to shift the situation in any way. I watch my FB feed and feel powerless to do anything but what I do naturally. Perhaps it helps to some degree, perhaps not. I feel that if I can affect one person's outlook, perhaps it will help in some way.

In regards to the West Indies, having never lived in such an environment and culture, I'm sure there would be many things to get used to, but I am used to change and revel in it. I might take a look at the universities down there once again, to see if anybody needs a soon-to-be doctor of Geography.


Rodney King

Of course. That was low-key in comparison to what we're going through right now.


I think this extends beyond just the USA, I think since the USA has been "#1" for so long (looked up to as the world police, the financial lead, the entertainment lead etc etc etc...) that in order to shift the power base to a global hegemony the US will have to spiral out of control and look to be itself the problem (ie police violence, citizen revolt etc. etc. etc.) we could be seeing one of the soon to be cumulative effects that will help first destroy the reputation of the US globally (while it's currency is already clearly being debased).

With all these short(ish) term predictions for the financial shift and whisperings of the UN needing to have absolute say over many topics I think this might be / could be one of the steps to shake the foundations of the US. It's too early to tell but if this escalates greatly I'll definitely think the above is the case.

I agree without qualification. Part of an overall plan that includes the sacrifice of this nation. A blood sacrifice. A lot of energy will be released if this plan achieves its aims.


the NWO will not happen in the current global setting, there will have to be more turmoil, more disruption; a call globally to "stop" the chaos with an over arching control structure (the good old UN) and to stabilize the financial structure (with the already well established SDR). The Hegelian dialect for the NWO is not fully played out yet and this may be a component of it, I think the nation based plans have been swept aside with this larger consolidation action in mind.

But then, if nothing else these things seem to not care much about timeline and have amazing patience and forethought, so you could be very right; the goal is local.

Well said. Things have to get worse before they can get better. Problem, reaction, solution. Star Trek universe, here we come, with the global elite still in charge of the Federation, if they have their way.

justntime2learn
26th November 2014, 10:13
I found this paper on sociopthy and thought I would include it in the post as we were discussing it yesterday.

Could this be true? Could sociopathy have alien Origins?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ponerology14.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/20060501013740/http:/montalk.net/alien/53/alien-origins-of-sociopathy
How bloodlines have been genetically tweaked to produce an abundance of psychopaths serving the alien agenda.



by Montalk
14 July 2004
from Montalk Website
recovered through WayBackMachine Website
Spanish version


Sociopaths or psychopaths are individuals who lack empathy and engage in predatory behavior without remorse or guilt.

In general, this lack of conscience may stem from a conditioned lack of emotional identification with the victim, a narcissistic love of self that overrides any concern for others, or the mechanical inability to feel any emotion other than ones which are chemical or hormonal in origin.

There are different categories of psychopaths depending on the underlying cause for their condition and how well they blend into society.




Criminal and Successful Psychopaths

Criminal psychopaths are those who are crude enough in their manipulations to be identified and apprehended by legal and medical institutions.

They are known as serial killers, con-artists, burglars, mobsters, mad tyrants, rapists, and delinquents. These comprise a small percentage of psychopaths, and only about 1% of the population.

The rest are successful psychopaths who evade detection by optimally conforming to social ideals without compromising their manipulative nature. They are skilled at faking emotions and passing themselves off as charming, caring, and sociable people. Some use their conformity to appear ordinary, others are more ambitious and become symbols of success by using their charm and intellect to rapidly climb the corporate, political, academic, religious, military, or social ladder.

Between 20% and 50% of the population is included in this category. In general, criminal psychopaths consistently violate laws and social norms while successful psychopaths make use of them.

The orthodox medical establishment presently recognizes only the first category under the term “Antisocial Personality Disorder.”

There is no diagnostic term categorizing successful psychopaths, who continue to remain medically unidentified. This is no surprise considering a significant portion of the medical establishment consists of these individuals.

When mainstream media and medical literature use the term “psychopath” or “sociopath,” they are referring to the small minority of criminal psychopaths.

In this article, the term encompasses multiple subcategories and applies to all individuals who lack empathy, whether they are criminals or not.




Expanded Model of Human Behavior

To understand psychopathy, one must first understand human behavior.

The enigma of human behavior is commonly reduced to a question of nature versus nurture, genetics versus environment.

Typical of materialistic determinism, this model is dangerously simplistic because it focuses only upon the physical and causal basis of human behavior, leaving out the metaphysical factors which are equally as important.

An expanded model for human behavior would include the following factors:
environment - physical influences, social conditioning, mind programming, and education
genetics - instinctual bias, physical limitations, and neurochemical makeup
soul nature - metaphysical composition based upon level of metaphysical evolution, acquired and shaped by the experiences of prior incarnations
fate - predestined and synchronistically arranged experiences that improve soul nature and thus change behavior, also the unwitting modification of one’s behavior to accommodate another’s fate
freewill - personal action taken out of choice, entirely non-deterministic
nonphysical influences - divine inspiration, telepathic persuasion, etheric thought-forms, and various hyperdimensional technologies



Souled and Nonsouled Psychopaths

The term “soul” may be defined as a nonphysical unit of consciousness whose core individuality survives death and rebirth.

By this definition, some people have individualized souls, some do not. The latter incarnate with definite soul energy, but nothing sufficiently individualized to avoid dissolution after death.
The individualized consciousness of souled humans affords them the ability to choose what to do with the genetic, environmental, and karmic conditions they acquire upon incarnating.
Nonsouled humans lack this choice and are entirely the product of their environment and genetics.
Psychopaths exist within both categories.
Souled psychopaths are either environmentally programmed to act against their own conscience, or else have made the consistent choice to behave in a narcissistic and predatory manner.

Those who are programmed have chance for recovery, while the attempt to change those who choose psychopathy only reinforces their behavior. Souled psychopaths feel love and hate, but only love for self and hate for others.

This condition is well illustrated by certain Nazis or Zionists who love their own race but feel no guilt about murdering those of another. Souled psychopaths also have empathy and conscience, but these are perverted and reserved for special cases. For example, some mobsters seem to act upon a strong moral code and thus appear as upright heroes to those they protect, but are nevertheless criminal psychopaths.

The greatest tyrants in history were souled psychopaths who passionately pursued their twisted goals.

Since love, empathy, and freewill are qualities associated with having a soul, nonsouled humans are psychopaths by definition. This doesn’t mean all act in obviously predatory ways, just that the severity of their manipulative behavior depends mostly upon environmental and genetic factors, which vary greatly from person to person.

Those who face adversity during childhood often mature into criminal psychopaths, while those who have more secure upbringings are less maladjusted and become successful psychopaths. No amount of education, medication, or programming can instill genuine empathy and love within them, for they lack the soul nature necessary to exude these qualities.

Both souled and nonsouled psychopaths display disregard for the suffering of others.

While the souled psychopath loves himself beyond everyone else and thus feels justified in exploiting them, the nonsouled psychopath freely exploits others because he lacks the ability to love or empathize with anything.




Genetics

Genetic characteristics determine the physical biases, limitations, and capabilities of an individual.

A nonsouled person will be at the mercy of these characteristics while a souled person can choose how to utilize them. Souls often select the bodies into which they incarnate, seeking ones which provide the optimal “toolbox” for their metaphysical needs and best serves their learning agenda or mission.

Thus, genetics and soul nature tend to correspond.

A nonsouled person with a “sharp” set of tools may, in accordance with environmental programming, use his or her intellectual abilities to deceive and manipulate with perfection. For example, the CEO who manipulated his way up the corporate ladder may simply be an nonsouled psychopath who used his genetic gifts to embody the societal norm of material success.

Genetic flaws can also result in brain abnormalities that hinder the balanced expression of emotion, a common condition in criminal psychopaths.

Chemical and electromagnetic factors can exacerbate these tendencies.




The Metaphysical Significance of Bloodlines

Because soul nature and genetics are coupled, the metaphysical significance of bloodlines becomes clear.

Bloodlines are characterized by concentrations of specific genetic traits passed down through generations. Correspondingly, souled members of that bloodline share common metaphysical characteristics, suggesting that bloodlines provide the physical vehicle for the implementation of metaphysical goals requiring multiple generations to accomplish.

Thus there exist a variety of bloodlines, each with unique metaphysical predispositions. While some are altruistic and noble in nature, others exist to engage in parasitical elitism and are genetically biased toward successful psychopathy.

In that case, nonsouled members would have a high probability of being actively psychopathic. Among its souled members, most incarnate to optimally continue their malevolent agendas, while a few deviate and use their acquired abilities for the better. By genealogically tracing bloodlines and correlating them with historical data, one can determine the fundamental destiny of its descendents.

For example, it is well known that US presidential candidates with the strongest royal lineage become elected.




Diffusion of Psychopathic Bloodlines

Due to crossbreeding, many bloodlines transcend racial boundaries and are not geographically isolated.

An exception would be royal lineages where active measures are taken to keep the bloodline pure and geographically concentrated. Nevertheless, the important point is that branches of bloodlines biased toward psychopathy inevitably diffuse into the general population and exist in all races.

This implies several things.
First, it shows that not only is racist prejudice morally repugnant, but it is also logically flawed because its obtuse criteria falsely condemns the innocent among the hated race and excuses the virulent bloodlines within the favored race. For example, the Nazis condemned the entire Jewish people as subhuman psychopaths when only a few non-semitic bloodlines passing themselves off as Jews justified this claim; there were equal concentrations of psychopathic bloodlines within the caucasian race itself, obviously overlooked by the Nazis due to the blind favoritism of their ideology.

Second, unless a bloodline is geographically isolated or physiologically unique, it is impossible to identify psychopaths by these traits alone. The purpose of identification is not to persecute them, but to identify such behavior when it occurs and understand why it happens.
The success of psychopaths depends heavily upon others excusing their action with rationalizations built on false assumptions.

For instance, a nonsouled psychopath may abuse his wife and after she leaves him, he may promise change and use sweet words to appear remorseful. The false assumption is that this person is capable and willing to change for the better. In truth, he is incapable of feeling empathy or remorse and fakes these qualities to perpetuate his manipulations.

Understanding the physical and metaphysical basis of human behavior allows one to avoid making such false assumptions and see through false guises that would otherwise appear as genuine.




Psychopathy and Negative Control Systems

Psychopaths who are most intelligent and powerful tend to use lesser ones to do their bidding.

This forms a web of control, a negative hierarchy of manipulation that spans from elite globalist cabals down to the neighborhood delinquent or psychopathic spouse. This is not to suggest that the global elite are directly commanding local psychopaths, but rather that there exists a hidden element unifying this hierarchy.

This hidden element originates beyond our realm and consists of advanced non-human psychopaths of an alien or demonic nature who use hyperdimensional technology or telepathic influence to direct all lesser psychopaths, most easily nonsouled ones who lack freewill and are thus freely controlled.

This hyperdimensional control system may be appropriately termed the “Matrix,” and the lesser psychopaths may be called “Matrix Agents” due to the similarity between their functions and the themes depicted in the movie.

Empathy is antithetical to control, which is why control systems demand psychopathy as the standard mode of function. Society is best manipulated through an abundant distribution of psychopaths among the lower and upper ranks of society.

Toward this end, certain bloodlines have been created or tweaked by negative alien forces to assist the incarnation of malevolently souled individuals, and thus some instances of psychopathy can be said to have alien origins.

Those not genetically biased toward psychopathic behavior are nevertheless easily programmed into supporting or idolizing such behavior, especially if they lack the freewill and discernment associated with having a well developed soul.




The Human Condition

The problem of psychopathy rests upon the fact that only the minority of souled psychopaths who have been programmed against their conscience are capable of changing for the better.

The other two categories, nonsouled psychopaths and those who choose the path of predation, are in the majority, diffused among the population, and beyond rehabilitation.

Their emulation of social ideals and lack of guilt allows them to rise high in society and exploit the masses at large. Our culture’s idolization of psychopathic qualities such as ego-centrism, ruthless ambition, and superficiality provides warm waters for these sharks.

Thus, lack of knowledge among people concerning the prevalence, subtlety, and guile of psychopaths only perpetuates their behavior.

Because of ignorance of metaphysical factors, it is commonly assumed that all psychopaths are treatable. In truth, souled psychopaths who choose their path and nonsouled psychopaths are beyond hope - any energy invested toward “changing them” will be wasted, or worse, serve to reinforce their predatory behavior.

In short, they abuse your respect, exploit your empathy, and feed upon what energy you put into them.

They are best avoided.

justntime2learn
26th November 2014, 13:51
http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Ferguson_Grand_Jury_Witness_Killed.php


November 26, 2014

Ferguson Grand Jury Witness Killed!? Ferguson Secrets Revealed – A Beta Test For Civil War In America?


By Live Free or Die


deandre-joshua1.jpg

20-year old DeAndre Joshua was found dead this morning yards away from the location Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, Missouri. According to this newly released report from The Last Refuge, the young man, who held a job and wasn’t one to make trouble, may have been the 1st grand jury witness murdered for testifying truthfully in the Michael Brown case, resulting in his life being taken in revenge for his testimony. In the 1st video below, Alex Jones tells us that the Ferguson riots are merely a ‘beta test’ for a ‘coming Civil war’ in America; in the 2nd video we learn the ‘secrets’ of the Ferguson riots while the 3rd video gives us more from Ferguson, including the death of DeAndre Joshua.

First Pro-Truth Grand Jury Witness Murdered? DeAndre Joshua, 20, found dead yards from scene of Michael Brown’s death..

DeAndre Joshua, 20, fits the social profile of an eye-witness who gave a police/FBI statement and testified before the Grand Jury in the Mike Brown shooting case. He was an employed black male, with no history of drug use or illicit behavior. He was also a friend of Dorian Johnson who is currently under protection.

Several of the eye-witnesses, who gave honest testimony to the Grand Jury, were, according to their own statements, warned immediately after the shooting to keep their mouths shut. All of the eye-witnesses were African American. If you read the reports the overwhelming sense of fear about speaking the truth is overwhelming.

Violet
26th November 2014, 16:39
This whole matter is like a minor toot ache that was allowed to grow unhindered and in the end lead to root canal treatment.

It's not about Mr Brown or the police officer anymore, is it? For so many people to put this verdict aside that readily, demonstrating an absolute lack of belief in whatever was researched with whatever precision...there must be a bigger problem on a broader level.

I can only hope for the best for all.

TargeT
26th November 2014, 17:18
I don’t know about everyone else, but it seems to me like the crimes (alleged) of Mr Brown are rather trivial compared to those (confirmed) of Mr Bundy. It also seems to me that the threat of Mr Brown’s chubby 18 year old hands were pretty small compared to the threat of automatic high velocity rifles in the hands of pre-meditating anti-government militias.

I think you are being naive.

These cute little chubby hands are attached to 6'4" 290lbs

Here he is at the scene of the robbery:
http://thegrio.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/michael-brown-survellience-2.jpg

He then walked down the middle of the street, attacked a police CAR stopping the officer from exiting the vehicle, then when the officer did exit the vehicle he attacked the COP and tried to grab his gun, then ran a short distance, turned around and charged back saying to the cop "you are too much of a pussy to shoot me".

As I said before, there are MUCH BETTER CASES of police violence and shootings, this case is purposefully meant to trip up those who will not do research and set them against those who will, this is a very powerful divide and conquer topic due to this simple fact (both sides will believe they know the actual situation and be shocked by the other sides take).



Why do conservative Americans get so outraged when black people are angry about a perceived injustice? Why are white people allowed to advocate anti-government, anti police state sentiment, but those behind the cause for black equality are not? Who are these 2nd amendment hypocrite dullards who maintain that they should be able to own weapons so that they can slaughter government forces should the people ever feel oppressed, while black people should expect no apology for being killed if they in the smallest way resist the same oppression?

again, it sounds like you do not know the particulars of this case and have fallen for the laid trap.



Why is the burning down of a pizza store more objectionable than the incarceration, harassment and denigration of an entire ethnic group? I don’t care about the damned pizza store, nor the auto-parts store, nor the f-ing McDonalds. This is collateral damage in what is a great up-welling of anger and resistance. And every squad car that gets burned is one less predator prowling the streets looking for people to throw in jail. Sadly this resistance may only lead to a deepening of the depression, but that is not to say that burning a squad car is not justified.

Had any one of the other VERY VERY BAD shooting cases been used to rally around, I would agree with you to some extent.

Was this not a manipulated situation I would agree with you.

As it is I don't, I see a chess move; and (to me) it's blatantly obvious and frustrating when people get sucked into it.



And why is everyone suddenly concerned about division? I don’t want to be unified with a bunch of conservative bigots. That is the division. I saw plenty of white protesters out on the streets there, and other non-black ethnicities too.

These conservatives/racists have been increasingly making me sick in recent weeks and I have been thinking about making a thread even before now. One by one the libertarian/republican conservatives I know in real life have exposed themselves to be closet racists, using the term wetback, virtually advocating expulsion of blacks and exhibiting clear xenophobic traits whenever foreign countries are under discussion.

Your generalization makes you just as bad as them. I considered myself to be a conservative for a long time (though, I know the definition of the word, not the preverted way popular culture is using the term) I still consider myself to be Libertarian, and strongly so.

You clearly do not understand what these terms mean and are using tools handed to you by the divide and conquer movement.


CERTAINLY there is some of what you speak of going on, but it is not ubiquitous and (from my experience) not even a very large number of examples.



I’m not necessarily going to debate anyone who disagrees with my stance (and I am not keeping any particular forum members in my thoughts while writing this), for I’m not going to change their mind, and I can’t be bothered qualifying every little point that I have made here which might be put out of context or misinterpreted. Just sharing my thoughts, thanks for reading.

Yes, this last statement shows how this problem will be a very tough situation to solve. Your mind is convinced and you don't care if your wrong or right or that what you are convinced of was planted there; fueled by an emotional charge and self perceived righteous anger you feel completely justified in your comments which are the mirror of what you are denigrating (IE: just as bad).

Awe and Dread... this divide is working very well.



I was supposed to be down here for something else. Right now, I do still feel that urge, but at the same time, I have no idea what I can do, personally, to shift the situation in any way. I watch my FB feed and feel powerless to do anything but what I do naturally. Perhaps it helps to some degree, perhaps not. I feel that if I can affect one person's outlook, perhaps it will help in some way.


what CAN we do, even in trying to diffuse the situation and bright balance I'm sure I'm just adding incitement (above post for example).

There is a desperate need for teachers here in the USVI, but I don't think you would like the culture as much as what Ulli describes; the hedonism is rampant through all people here.

fractal being
24th December 2014, 16:39
I suppose I am rather different from your average conservative American. For, actually, I rather have admiration for the late Mr Brown. He fearlessly resisted one of the ranks that have victimised, harassed and institutionalised the cruel oppression of black people in black areas. Was this particular cop one of the good guys? Of course it’s possible that at an individual level he was, but the racially-profiling, bullying police force that he serves is vile and resistance to that by the oppressed ought to be saluted.



I couldn't agree more on that. I wonder how would the next black teenager react when he is approached from a police. I would feel threatened knowing that the police ranks are full of monsters like these:

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Who in sane mind status would sing something like that:


Michael Brown learned a lesson about a messin'
With a badass policeman

And he's bad, bad Michael Brown
Baddest thug in the whole damn town
Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a junkyard dog

Two men took to fightin'
And Michael punched in through the door
And Michael looked like some old Swiss cheese
His brain was splattered on the floor

And he's dead, dead Michael Brown
Deadest man in the whole damn town
His whole life's long gone
Deader than a roadkill dog

and doesn't expect hate back?

EDIT source:

The Glendale, CA Elks Lodge is investigating a shocking incident that went down in the club a week ago Monday, when a performer sang a song celebrating the death of Michael Brown ... for an audience that included a number of retired and current cops ... and TMZ has the video.

The song was a parody of "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown." Gary Fishell, the performer and a member of the Lodge, changed the lyrics.
Source:http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/23/michael-brown-song-lapd-investigation-parody-elks/#disqus_thread

ThePythonicCow
2nd January 2015, 18:07
I suspect that some good police feel threatened too, knowing that there are some 6′- 4″, 300lb, violence prone, cop hating, young men on the streets, foolish enough to try to grab a cops gun, and then when ordered to freeze while going away, turns and charges back at the cop.
EGGmRBTppv0
Thanks to The Michael Brown Scam (Veterans Today) (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/02/the-michael-brown-scam/).