Galactics Have Contacted Indian Government and Military [Archive]

truthseekerdan

4th November 2010, 23:16

Perhaps that is why president Obama is going to visit India. Let's hope so...:confused:

"According to Subhra Jain, a freelance reporter in New Delhi, she bumped into a very senior Indian Military official in a nightclub in New Delhi. While talking what she came to know will make the rest of the world sit up all night. According to her, Extra Terrestrials have been visiting India and the rest of the world for thousands of years. In recent days most of the super powers have been formally contacted. India is no exception in recent days.

’They always contact through the ground radar stations of the military’, she says. Indian Himalayas and Ladakh (China-India) border is where they first made their recent contact. They want to let India know the laws and regulation of the multidimensional Universe.

India is planning an un-manned moon and later an unmanned Mars expedition. India’s premier Space Research Organization (ISRO) has been told “dos and don’ts”.

Almost in the same week, a Flight Commodore who just retired from Indian Air Force, was requested in Bangalore, India, to provide a little talk on any topic to his youngest son’s class mates in the school environment. Guess what he picked as the topic – yes you got it right – it was the underground landing base for UFO crafts in Ladakh. He first started by saying new technology is evolving and new achievements are being made in Aerospace. The students stared questioning him on different aspects of this new technologies and where this technology came from! Then the students started challenging him as if he was really joking – at that moment he started providing vivid descriptions of the landing base.

Ladakh is a land like no other. Bounded by two of the world’s mightiest mountain ranges, the Great Himalaya and the Karakoram, it lies athwart two other, the Ladakh range and the Zanskar range. Ladakh lies at altitudes ranging from about 9,000 feet (2750m) at Kargil to 25,170 feet (7,672m) at Saser Kangri in the Karakoram. Thus summer temperatures rarely exceed about 27 degree Celsius in the shade, while in winter they may plummet to minus 20 degree Celsius even in Leh. Surprisingly, though, the thin air makes the heat of the sun even more intense than at lower altitudes; it is said that only in Ladakh can a man sitting in the sun with his feet in the shade suffer from sunstroke and frostbite at the same time!

In Leh, Ladakh, according to Tsering Spalzang, a senior official, all paranormal activities are happening with the knowledge of the Indian Army. There are zones that Indian Army and Air Force block for security reasons. The Ladakh valley is heavily secured by the Indian Government. It is a sensitive area and no one is allowed in these sensitive areas – neither from Indian side nor from the Chinese side. The terrain is such that it is impossible to find hidden underground structures under massive mountains – you are looking at the core Himalayas.

The Petroleum Ministry of India when recently asked about recent high oil price, said that India is developing alternative energy sources with advanced technologies. When asked about, what kind of alternative technologies, the spokesperson hurriedly brought the press conference to a quick end by saying those are really classified information."

Source: http://stevebeckow.com/2010/11/02/galactics-have-contacted-indian-government-and-military/

truthseekerdan

4th November 2010, 23:21

Here is another link: http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2010/11/obama-takes-roadtrip-to-india-at-cost.html

witchy1

4th November 2010, 23:23

why would he even issue this. all it states is that if the any of the ag / deputy ag or associate ag position cant perform their duties, then that is filled by one of the 3 listed until one of the current ag's can fill in - however he can appoint at his discretion whomsoever he wants.!!! BIZARRE

avid

4th November 2010, 23:23

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/34-US-warships-to-guard-Obama-in-India/articleshow/6871415.cms
http://www.hindu.com/2010/11/03/stories/2010110353261400.htm

Mumbai: As part of the heightened security measures for the visit of U.S. President Barack Obama, the Maharashtra government is planning to take the help of the National Security Guard (NSG) from Mumbai, in addition to enlisting the full strength of the city police and some battalions of the State Reserve Police Force (SRPF). The elite force had been called to Mumbai during the 26/11 attacks. The city now has its own NSG hub.

Mr. Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama are set to arrive in the city on Saturday and will stay the night in the presidential suite of Mumbai's Taj Mahal Palace and Tower hotel. Around 3,000 personnel will accompany the President and an equal number are believed to have already flown in and out of the city to prepare for the visit. Among those accompanying the President will be 200 of his personal staff and about 150 journalists.

“All security decisions are with the Maharashtra police and the State Home department. We have got SRPF battalions. We may ask for NSG snipers since they are based here, locally. Central forces are not necessary,” a government official who did not wish to be named, said.

Mr. Obama will be coming with three Boeing 747 jumbo jets and two others will be coming before him with equipment. An advance team of U.S. officials is set to arrive here on Wednesday. The U.S. is spending about $200 million a day towards Mr. Obama's visit, the official said on Tuesday.

The Maharashtra government is believed to have put its foot down on the amount of weapons and ammunition that will be carried by the U.S. authorities. Mr. Obama's personal security guards and those around him will be allowed to carry weapons. Beyond this circle, only the Mumbai police will be allowed to possess arms.

“There will be an inner and outer cordon around the President. His place of stay will be cordoned off and the cordon will move with him.”

While Maharashtra is following the protocol laid down by the Ministry of External Affairs for state visits, officials are aware of the terror threat associated with Mr. Obama's visit, especially in light of the 26/11 strikes.

“We are taking the high security issue into account. Plus, Diwali is round the corner and the second anniversary of 26/11 is approaching. We are aware of the standard alerts,” the official said.

The Navy has been told to intensify patrolling of the seas. A similar request to survey the air space will be made to the Air Force. Airspace will be sealed for a brief period of 10 minutes to half an hour at the time of Mr. Obama's arrival and departure.

The Gateway of India, which faces the Taj, has also become a high-security point. “Between Saturday and Sunday, till the time Mr. Obama leaves, there will be no boat movement at the Gateway. Boats would be asked to anchor at Bhaucha Dhakka, a ferry wharf shed nearby,” the official said.

Along the routes taken by the President, electronic jammers will be installed, creating dead spots for the duration his convoy passes.

Traffic will be restricted on the road from the naval helicopter base INS Shikra to the Taj hotel.

“The tip of south Mumbai will be cordoned off, but vehicular traffic will not be affected,” the official said.

Windows of the buildings around Mani Bhavan, one of the sites on Mr. Obama's itinerary, will be closed as per the standard procedure.

Government upset

The State government is upset over Mr. Obama giving the police memorial for 26/11 martyrs the go-by. The authorities have also written to the MEA expressing their displeasure.

“Mr. Obama is going to make a statement on terrorism at the Taj, where entry is only by invitation. More people died outside the hotel. What about them? What about the police officers who were killed? It should have been a public statement. We have written to the MEA expressing our displeasure,” an official said.

witchy1

4th November 2010, 23:29

Heres another link - is this simply "stand over tactics"??????????????? Maybe its a bonus vacation for all the staff in thanks for all the hard work they have done this year. The man is simply a thief of the taxpayer and it would seem a meglomaniac!
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459

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maybe cheaper to bring them to the US!!!!

norman

4th November 2010, 23:34

Is this IT!? is this the November shocker?

Is he going to get blown up in India?

creepy creepy.

Arpheus

4th November 2010, 23:35

scanner

4th November 2010, 23:36

Maybe this aswell

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12-19c-04.asp

Ammit

4th November 2010, 23:37

Ok, is it just me that thinks he has fleed before the weekend when in a previous movie which had the simpsons in it about an nuclear explosion or some other problem that was being believed to be imminent, supposed to happen on November 6th 2010. Well here in the uk that is saturday....

This is too strange.

There is no mention of his wife and family going on the vacation too, be interesting to know.

Ammit

Ahkenaten

4th November 2010, 23:42

Minimally it is very odd that Obama would go out of the US immediately after voters exhibited such displeasure with business as usual on election day, and with the instability in the economy. Even if the trip had been planned for some time it should have been cancelled based on what is going on now. Just goes to show that the office of the president is a sock-puppet and others really are in charge. I have no way of knowing what the meaning of the AG Succession order issued today. Maybe the AG is going on the trip, too - and they are concerned about decapitation of the govt? Who knows.

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p.s. maybe things are so bad here that they are moving the govt. en masse to Mumbai? :rolleyes:

truthseekerdan

4th November 2010, 23:47

Maybe he's going to disclose from India...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7750-Galactics-Have-Contacted-Indian-Government-and-Military

Lost Soul

4th November 2010, 23:50

In ancient China, whenever the emperor traveled, local officials were expected to entertain him in royal style. Taxes were collected and funds that would otherwise be used for civic projects (waterways, public buildings, bridges) was diverted to wine and dine the emperor. Poverty followed in the emperor's wake as the local government struggled to pay the bills.

In a facetious way, it's nice to see that there are no changes with Obama and his retinue of sycophants, boot-lickers, lackeys and the court jester. If there is a chef among them, (s)he may be the only honest person present.

scanner

4th November 2010, 23:50

Another link confirming the move
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/04/obama.asian.trip/

witchy1

4th November 2010, 23:52

this fits in with what hes taking with him
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459

I seriously doubt he needs 34 warships /nuclear button and communications centre / 500 staff / 2 jets / a few private luxury jets carrying top American corporate leaders, who are part of Obama's entourage (whats that about???)
Wonder if hes going to meet with the Indian branch of et's?????
also - where is your attorney general at the moment - BO just signed off on this
Hmmmmmm - something smells fishy

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heres the link providing succession order for the demise of the ag
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...rtment-justice

witchy1

4th November 2010, 23:54

see previous thread just started
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7750-Galactics-Have-Contacted...

witchy1

4th November 2010, 23:56

This thread goes with this one. Mods can you merge them. I think this is the Nov big one
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7749-Obama-on-the-move

scanner

5th November 2010, 00:08

For a country who's in crisis's it would seem this has beem planned for some time , even before the mid turm hmmm .Don't make sense to us Brits well this one anyway.Somethings comeing folks

Ammit

5th November 2010, 00:11

Scanner, i agree mate. And it aint gonna be nice if he dont wanna be there.....

Wood

5th November 2010, 00:13

I remember reading about Ladakh a few months ago, regarding a suspected ET base in the area:

The locals start laughing in that area when they are asked about these UFO sightings. They get surprised why the Governments are so eager to hide these obvious facts. According to them the extra-terrestrial presence is well known and is in deep into the ground. They believe neither the Indian or Chinese Governments do not want to expose the fact for some reason. When they bring up this matter to local Governments, they are told to keep quiet and forget the same. This is the region where the Euresian plate and the Indian plate have created convergent plate boundaries. Convergent plate boundaries are formed where one plate dives under another. Consequently, this is one of the very few areas in the world where the depth of the earth's crust twice as thick as in other places. The opposite is found in hot spots like Yellow Stone National Park in America where the earth’s crust in thin.
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/01-09a-05.asp

norman

5th November 2010, 00:14

Where's the G20 meeting?... he's attending that too. G?? meetings are notorious for coinciding with nasty world events. They seem to like being together and VERY IMPORTANT during nasty events. London Bombings, Invasion of Lebanon....... any more ?

Bill Ryan

5th November 2010, 00:20

In 1988-89 I led three expeditions to Ladakh.

It's a wonderful place, with wonderful people, all living close to narrow, fertile strips that run parallel to the few rivers there. Vast tracts of it are dry rocky mountainous desert, with nothing growing at all.

More space than you would ever imagine to conceal anything you like... exactly where the Indian military would hide away anything they didn't want anyone else to see.

http://www.myhappyjourney.com/photos/city/1266645813leh_ladakh.1184149500.100_3860.jpg

Ross

5th November 2010, 00:23

This thread goes with this one. Mods can you merge them. I think this is the Nov big one
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7749-Obama-on-the-move

Have merged threads.

Regards

Ross

Ammit

5th November 2010, 00:31

It still sounds like a trip to somehwere else while some event happens back home, the chief returns to the stricken homeland to repair the damage, an all conquering hero......

This has more to it....

Ross

5th November 2010, 00:37

Wood

5th November 2010, 00:44

Not to dis-similair to the 'ark building facility' portrayed in the 2012 movie...well hidden...

When I've read your post I've thought that Obama and 3000 other people from the ruling elite might be going there to board the arks. That would be far more sinister than a disclosure conference.

EDIT: On a second thought, an scenario like that in the 2012 movie is unlikely since the visit should have been arranged several weeks in advance, and I doubt a major catastrophe like that in the movie could be forecasted accurately that far in advance.

EDIT #2: apart from meteorites, but that should have been filtered to the media. I was thinking of a pole flip or CME.

norman

5th November 2010, 00:45

This has more to it....

If I was in Washington or, even more creepy, Chicago right now I'd fill my car and drive............

Chicago, I think I heard on the Alex Jones show, has got a new boss. The guy who quit or was 'moved' from the Whithouse. He's a likely Juliani character, me thinks.

witchy1

5th November 2010, 00:48

The Ridge area - opposite Delhi's Maurya Sheraton hotel - has been illuminated by floodlights as part of the heightened security drill

Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459?cp

I wonder if this is a signal????

Ammit

5th November 2010, 00:50

My god, this is feeling more creepier by the minute.....

Agape

5th November 2010, 00:55

There is lots of military in Ladakh, for two main reasons, told to be sensitive issues about Chino-Indian border in that region ( it seems that most of the borders running through remote and difficult to access mountain ranges were not well divided untill now and China claims their territory over few other such places , Sikkim and Assam being discussed as well ) ,
another is closeness of Kashmir , always in danger of bursting to open fight.

We've visited Ladakh in 1996 with my friend that time and presence of military was in fact, the only and chief disturbing factor in that area.
Otherwise the land , as Bill said, looking like moon land, I've never seen mountains so vast on Earth , pristine land with magnificiant curves of nature and huge white clouds floating above,

people who are very similar to Tibetans , all smiles , wrinkled and aged soon from hard work and dry air of the altitude , friendly and pure hearted.

Military poses serious threat , to the environment, the space and open land masked by mountains is only too easy to misuse for such a purpose though I don't think it plays role anymore when every country can zoom down from satellite.

We went by bus over the mountains, two days journey with overnight in unplanned camp, almost 4.800 m/above sea level, it was tough.

There are some beautiful old monasteries in Ladakh and could be so peaceful.

The motorable road, serpentine running up and down over the mountains was built by military, opened around 1990 , my guess. There are hundreds of army trucks going there and back, everyday, with supplies.

There are also some trucks fallen miles under the narrow road which makes all the journey yet more fun :becky:

In many places it's difficult for two vehicles go over each other in opposite direction, too little space, so one has to back up to safe distance and allow each other operate somehow with inches hanging above the cliff.

While in there, on a way to one of the monasteries, on bus again, we looked from high on the road and we could actually see huge missile heads, white in round openings, down under the mountain. It was quite shocky .

Locals are very unhappy about military because those army guys are away from their families, they get drunk regularly, rape women and bring violence to the area. It's nothing too new it seems to me.

I've never been to those border lakes where's the ufo activity supposed to happen, some are in the disputable Indo-Chinese border territory and one needs permit to go there, and also it's all quite out of hand.

Ammit

5th November 2010, 00:56

Sorry, my feeling is that if he and 3000 other people from the ruling elite are going on a vacation, alien meeting trip or even just a bbq away from the us then that says to me, getting out of dodge till it blows over, scenario.....
I really hope my feelings are wrong.
And what ever happens or what does not happen, my blessings go to you all.

Ammit

Wood

5th November 2010, 01:03

Sorry, my feeling is that if he and 3000 other people from the ruling elite are going on a vacation, alien meeting trip or even just a bbq away from the us then that says to me, getting out of dodge till it blows over, scenario.....

If that is true, it should be an engineered scenario (like a false flag attack) rather than a natural catastrophe because official visits are arranged several weeks or months in advance, and I think natural catastrophes can't be forecasted accurately too far in the future (EDIT: apart from meteorites, but that should have been filtered to the media. I was thinking of pole flip or CME). They can't just wait there for days until TSHTF.

If anything at all, I'd expect a disclosure conference or a false flag attack.

Ammit

5th November 2010, 01:12

Yes Wood, my feelings are a man made job.
Would still like to know if he , wife and kids with pet hampster and cat are also going..
As I said, this feels like " get outa dodge".

Ammit

bluestflame

5th November 2010, 01:20

I'd be keeping an eye on who else is getting out of country , big name acts , famous

Wood

5th November 2010, 01:24

Yes Wood, my feelings are a man made job.
Would still like to know if he , wife and kids with pet hampster and cat are also going..
As I said, this feels like " get outa dodge".

But to India? It is not a traditional ally of the USA. It would suggest, assuming you are right, that Obama is indeed independent from the PTBs and he is moving to a country with nukes and seemingly not aligned with the NWO.
I'd rather go for the disclosure show :)

bluestflame

5th November 2010, 01:26

he and his family were supposed to be coming to Australia for a visit a few months ago but things didn't eventuate

witchy1

5th November 2010, 01:35

After that, the Obamas will be hosted by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at a private dinner. (as in plural)

Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/foreign-secretary-on-barack-obamas-visit-64455?cp

I think they will be outsourcing usa jobs to india

shiva777

5th November 2010, 01:38

yeah,today we have the pleasure of Hillary Clintons company here in Christchurch, New Zealand( maybe she's coming to see the effect of the secret technology that caused the earthquake here,for herself)...interestingly she was greeted by the usual group of Maori warriors.shaking their spears at her and making reptilian like tongue flicks and angry faces...I'm sure she felt right at home immediately,she seemed to enjoy it...

as for UFO activity in Ladakh..my last visit there was in 2005.I went by motorbike and explored some areas very few foreigners have been with a Ladakhi friend...was stopped in the remotest of places by confused looking military people...it is a well known and often witnessed fact that there is lots of strange activity going on in these regions as the locals speak of seeing UFO's often and many speak of strange creatures being seen in the area...this is an area where the local people take it is a fact that there are "flying buddhist nuns" and monks with off planet travel abilities among other things...there is definitely lots of ET activity happening in these areas as they are conducive to paranormal activity and thinning "veils"...lots of stargate and portal activity happening there...lots of military checkpoints and "sensitive areas".I was guided to do gridwork and meditate in many different locations there and the clarity and potency of the energies there are phenomenal.

truthseekerdan

5th November 2010, 01:39

But to India? It is not a traditional ally of the USA. It would suggest, assuming you are right, that Obama is indeed independent from the PTBs and he is moving to a country with nukes and seemingly not aligned with the NWO.
I'd rather go for the disclosure show :)

What I heard is that in India they're very advanced in Time Travel and control, maybe even more than the US.
Also they are more 'open minded' people since they're not being 'poisoned' as much as americans are (i.e. food, water, air, etc.)

norman

5th November 2010, 01:46

Bea

5th November 2010, 01:48

norman

5th November 2010, 01:53

witchy1

5th November 2010, 02:00

LOL: Hope the ground rocks for Hills....poor old chch. (never thought of the connection between the 2 - pretty obvious isnt it)
It looks like every senior polly is out of the usa at the moment..... and with the succession orders signed yesterday makes me suspicious. However this trip wasnt planned overnight. (you dont mobilize 34 Warships in a heat beat)
i think also apart from cementing the NWO (under the guise of Globalization), that they are strategizing against China - making sure they have the numbers if push comes to the shove. The USA have flatly refused to give China the money they owe them, and China is pretty upset about it and has indicated it will take action. (cant remember where I read this) USA has just give 2B to Pakistan for arms. (so that will secure and stablize them) Both India and USA have named Kashmir as unstable and a "flash point" Dont know much about this....will go and find out. It looks like the only countries that are not under USA (NWO) control are Isreal, China, perhaps Russia. Hmmmmmmm
Tons on information from NDTV about what will be the outcomes, agenda etc.

shiva777

5th November 2010, 02:07

I have also explored Kashmir and that's another area where the veils are VERY thin.Lot's of locals speak of UFO's and abductions,holy men materialising,people disappearing in to the ethers...you name it.

The MAIN reasons for all conflicts throughout history have been around control and protection of stargates and portals and the wiping out of races of people with specific DNA coding and knowledge...the oil,minerals and "empires" are secondary,they are more of a cover story than anything else..,this is about a war over conciousness more than anything...understanding that will be a necessary thing in the near future..the illuminati know about the war over conciousness and suppressing our DNA POTENTIALS,the other stuff most talked about is secondary and aids in that suppression

Israel is FULLY under the control of the same people who REALLY control the US...the Zionists...the politics you hear in mainstream media are just a charade.ISRAEL IS A STATE OF THE US,without the US's money and support it wouldn't and couldn't exist...

witchy1

5th November 2010, 02:10

Oh, ok then that just leaves China and maybe Russia - wonder how they plan to address that wee issue....maybe pay their bills!

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norman

5th November 2010, 02:21

i think also apart from cementing the NWO (under the guise of Globalization), that they are strategizing against China - making sure they have the numbers if push comes to the shove. The USA have flatly refused to give China the money they owe them, and China is pretty upset about it and has indicated it will take action. (cant remember where I read this) USA has just give 2B to Pakistan for arms. (so that will secure and stablize them) Both India and USA have named Kashmir as unstable and a "flash point" Dont know much about this....will go and find out. It looks like the only countries that are not under USA (NWO) control are Isreal, China, perhaps Russia. Hmmmmmmm

That's quite a breakdown or world affairs there. I agree with you about the China part at the beginning but I'm of quite the opposite opinion regarding the NWO motivation in Pakistan. 2 Billons is chicken feed and belongs firmly on the same side of the wire as Bush giving Africa a big wadge to combat AIDS. It's P.R. money out of petty cash and part of the "for public consumption" agenda, in my own opinion.

Obama pledged hostility against Pakistan from way back long before he got elected. I'm quite sure that foreign policy 'wish' came straight out of the head of his FP guru ZB ( you know the guy, I can't spell it ). Pakistan is most likely destined to be smashed to pieces. A surgical removal of the nuclear potential is not too hard to do in that country even now and later, espescially with India backing the tricks up locally.

It looks like Russia and China have joined forces economically, if not militarily yet. Saudi Arabia is possibly playing away with Russia too. The ring around Iran is nearly complete.

Ultimately, I really don't think America is intended to win very much in the big showdown. It's most likely destined to be defeated in a process of extracting the final power deals in the asian new empire. I'd go as far as to say that if American Generals are smart enough to defy the grand plan layed out for them, and win, the world's 'elite' will have lost control of the situation completely.

witchy1

5th November 2010, 04:11

Hi Norman, I trade the money markets (Forex) so I need to know who up who and who hasnt paid

truthseekerdan

5th November 2010, 05:08

Barack Obama India visit: Schedule

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V6DMHVdyJw

Nov 5 - The President will depart from Washington

Nov 6 - Obama will arrive in Mumbai

Day One (Nov 6)

- The US President will first visit Taj Hotel, one of the targets of the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, to remember the victims of the terror strike. He is expected to make a statement here and meet some survivors of the attack.

- He will next go to the Gandhi Museum, revealed Mr Ben Rhodes, deputy national security advisor for strategic communications.

- Obama will then move on to the business summit organised by US-India Business Council, where he will meet and greet India Inc.

Day Two (Nov 7)

- Barack Obama will celebrate Diwali, the festival of lights, with Mumbai children at a local school.

- He will later interact with university students at the Town Hall. His speech will be centred around democracy and Indo-US ties.

Day Three (Nov 8)

- The Us President will travel to the national capital, New Delhi, where he is expected to meet Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, and President Pratibha Patil.

- The highlight of the day would be Obama addressing the Parliament.

- Obama's day and the trip will end with the state dinner hosted by the Prime Minister and his wife.

Nov 9 - Obama will leave Delhi for Jakarta in the morning.

news.oneindia.in/2010/10/28/barack-obama-india-visit-schedule.html

Ahkenaten

5th November 2010, 05:19

Shiva 777 I am greatly reassured by your comments inasmuch as I had become rather worried that, contrary to your assertions, the US had become a state of Israel!! On a related subject, the guy from the White House that moved to the mayoral of Chicago is Rahm Emanuel, whose father was in the Ergun. The strategic reasons for a gigantic visit to India is that India along with China are the biggest movers and shakers in the world today economically. The US also derives much in the way of intellectual capital from India..................I missed how Lidakh (Northern India) is related to Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay in southern India, the largest city in the world and the richest city in India).............anyway such a gigantic entourage is an outrageous waste of money, exceeding Bush II's visit to England when he arrived with his own private latrines ready to collect the royal poop so it couldn't be scooped up by the curious and tested for drugs or genetic anomalies. Our reality is beginning to closely resemble science fiction. Actually I prefer science fiction to this!

Scott

5th November 2010, 06:02

Yes Wood, my feelings are a man made job.
Would still like to know if he , wife and kids with pet hampster and cat are also going..
As I said, this feels like " get outa dodge".

Ammit

"He said first lady Michelle Obama will accompany the president in India and Indonesia, but their daughters will remain home to continue their schooling."

Last paragraph: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/04/obama.asian.trip/index.html?eref=rss_politics&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_allpolitics+%28RSS%3A+Politics%29

Humble Janitor

5th November 2010, 06:20

He has proved over and over again that he is really good at blowing money out of the window LOL,this is beyond ridiculous,you gotta make a superhuman effort not to get pissed at stuff like this unreal.

And for 8 years, Bush took plenty of vacations too.

But no, let's not focus on that because somehow, Bush was a saint.

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In ancient China, whenever the emperor traveled, local officials were expected to entertain him in royal style. Taxes were collected and funds that would otherwise be used for civic projects (waterways, public buildings, bridges) was diverted to wine and dine the emperor. Poverty followed in the emperor's wake as the local government struggled to pay the bills.

In a facetious way, it's nice to see that there are no changes with Obama and his retinue of sycophants, boot-lickers, lackeys and the court jester. If there is a chef among them, (s)he may be the only honest person present.

Let's see what you have to say about the Republican overlords that have supposedly taken back the U.S House.

Seriously, please do not ignore the crap that they will put the American people through. All parties are culpable.

jcocks

5th November 2010, 08:39

I wonder if it's any coincidence that the presenters of the BBCs' radio 4 have moved into a *NUCLEAR BUNKER 10 METRES BELOW GROUND* for the next 3 weeks while "refurbishments" are completed at their studios?

If anything, its' interesting timing - and interesting that they couldn't find anywhere else to move to except a *HIGHLY CLASSIFIED NUCLEAR BUNKER 10 METRES UNDER THE GROUND"???

I'd put my tinfoil hat on (in fact at this stage, I'd glue it to my head), but it gone missing. Please let mew know if someone finds it :P

witchy1

5th November 2010, 08:48

I'll hook one onto the comet that just flew past and get them to drop it off. Looks like a peanut
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/nasa-comet-flyby-yields-rare-images-20101105-17h22.html

TraineeHuman

5th November 2010, 09:15

Why is it strange that Obama should make a major visit to India? Why all the paranoia? I’ve read more than one source who claimed that by the end of the century India will be the number one economic power, having long since overtaken China by then. I also understand that the ETs built a huge base at Ladakh years ago. Its original purpose was apparently to monitor and possibly/probably intervene in any attempts by China to conquer India, or vice-versa. It’s interesting, though, that Obama is more than likely, one suspects, visiting that ET base. I hope he’s not signing a secret treaty. Whoops -- sorry about that last bit. Maybe the paranoia's catching.

TigaHawk

5th November 2010, 09:15

Also they are more 'open minded' people since they're not being 'poisoned' as much as americans are (i.e. food, water, air, etc.)

I am not sure about that - I believe i heard somewhere india is having a big uproar with GMO foods, and tourists are told not to eat the food from local markets as they use banned pestacides on them, etc etc... or am i thinking of somewhere else? sorry if im wrong :S

witchy1

5th November 2010, 09:32

Hi traineehuman, dont think its paranoia, more trying to fit bits of the jig-saw together. He has met the Indian prime minister many times before. His vist does coincide with many predictions of a major event in November. The questions are more about why he needs 35 warships, his 300 odd staff, plus fighter jets, the nuclear button and a complete communications facility (I guess on top of what is on air force one) plus he taking corporate planes full of the biggest corporations in the states to accompany him. Then there was the alien angle. Really just a good old chin wag and general discussion imho

JoshERTW

5th November 2010, 11:23

And for 8 years, Bush took plenty of vacations too.

But no, let's not focus on that because somehow, Bush was a saint.

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Let's see what you have to say about the Republican overlords that have supposedly taken back the U.S House.

Seriously, please do not ignore the crap that they will put the American people through. All parties are culpable.

HJ - thanks for this, I completely agree. Energy spent on the "anti-Obama" conspiracy is energy wasted IMO. Especially when you look at the preceeding administration and the likely alternatives (Palin, McCain etc.) - If they were in power I bet things would be much worse, its a lesser of two evils scenario, and people are pissed off because Obama promised big change, but delivered minimal change. McCain would have delivered another war, and furhter destruction of the common person on the street in the USA. Weigh the options before buying into the "anti-Obama" stuff. This is the last I will say about it, because its a diversion tactic from real issues.

Bluewool

5th November 2010, 12:30

On a positive note.November 5th is Diwali-http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki?search=Divali
Meaning the celebration of the victory of good over evil and the uplifting of spiritual darkness.
Also known as the festival of lights what are the chances of a galactic display amongst all those fireworks? Also here in England its November 5th our traditional night for fireworks in the sky.Keep them peeled as you look to the heavens!

fifi

5th November 2010, 12:37

Is November 5th also the day that V blew up the parliament in the "V for Vendetta" movie?

TigaHawk

5th November 2010, 12:51

10:47pm here on 5/5/10

Nothing's blown up yet, i think :P

More news of suposed cyber attacks tho zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

And yes...

"Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot... "

steve_a

5th November 2010, 17:27

Hi Everybody,

It seems that the India trip of Obama had been oficialized in June of this year after an invitation was sent to him in 2009, so I'm not too sure of him 'running away' from anything.

I think it a bit odd that 25 ships need to protect him from a possible sea attack, as Delhi is along way from the coast and Mumbai probably wouldn't have the space to put 25 warships. As I understood it if he was invited, it would be the host nations' obligation to provide the necessary security for his well being, working together with the secret service of the US.

It is reported that 200 executives from private companies will also make up part of the entourage which could explain the throng of 3000 people who will attend, what with family members, private security guards, secretaries and their family members etc.

It is interesting that so many executives are going along, I would be keen to know which execs and businesses feel it important enought to make the trip. Perhaps with this information we could discover the main kind of deals that could be reached over there. Lest we forget that India will be the most populous country in the world in 10 years time. If it's true what some reports say that technology will be sold, that would mean more outsourcing of US jobs would occur. Could it be that everyone is out to make a cash grab before it's too late?

As for the suggestions in another thread that US banks could be heading for a 'bank holiday' this next week, it was even reported by Alex Jones that it could be on the 11th, that would just create a run on the banks. Brazil is no stranger to this so I'll take all my savings out of my bank accounts (Bradesco & Caixa Economica) here and wait a few days to see what happens. If everything calms down after a week or so I'll deposit it all back. I'll lose a % or two, but it's better than losing everything as I'm sure there would be a repercussion here and many other parts of the world because of this happening, if it actually did.

I would be most suprised if there was an Eisenhower type meeting with Aliens over the weekend, however we can't rule this out as there was a woman I recall from a disclosure press meeting that said that the PTB would create an Alien presence to expand the Military Industrial Complex and this together with the technology reference made earlier could be a possibility which although not likely cannot be entirely ruled out.

From my position, I'm just watching and waiting. I'm sure that nothing too destructive will happen here in Brazil for the time being...

Best regards,

Steve

tone3jaguar

5th November 2010, 17:37

Seeing as how the aspects of the PTB that would want to stop a full on disclosure are basically their own government and own military, it would fit that he would surround himself with this level of protection if he was going forward with other countries on this.

Decibellistics

5th November 2010, 20:21

Time to wait it out. Quiet the mind. Pay attention

NeoEmc2

5th November 2010, 21:20

No offense, but some of you are more petro than a little girl who's afraid of the dark. Seriously people, get a grip and keep it together. It might sound stupid but there's nothing to be afraid of but fear itself. You are creating your own fears by speculating over what Obama and his crew are going to India for.

There are plenty of Obama haters out there and in this forum. You take for granted what it would have been like had McCain won the election, or worse, Hillary Clinton - had she stayed in the elections. You take for granted the sh!tty eight years we had with bush and don't take into consideration how much money has gone into the war his crew created!

I don't care if Obama had spent 10billion to go to India on a holy day. I feel better for the country with him President than McCain, Clinton or Bush any day of the week!

Some of you should seriously step outside and go enjoy nature instead of worrying so much about all this crap every waking moment. No offense.

Sorry for the rant.

Much love and peace to everyone.

Happy Diwali!

Zook

5th November 2010, 22:00

Hello NeoEinstein,

[...]
There are plenty of Obama haters out there and in this forum. You take for granted what it would have been like had McCain won the election, or worse, Hillary Clinton - had she stayed in the elections. You take for granted the sh!tty eight years we had with bush and don't take into consideration how much money has gone into the war his crew created!

I don't care if Obama had spent 10billion to go to India on a holy day. I feel better for the country with him President than McCain, Clinton or Bush any day of the week!
Some of you should seriously step outside and go enjoy nature instead of worrying so much about all this crap every waking moment. No offense.
Sorry for the rant.
Much love and peace to everyone.
Happy Diwali!

Happy Diwali!!!

With all due respect, those who cling, in 2010, to the obsolete meme and imperialist methodology of contrived left-right dichotomy ... are the ones investing in the fear. And they do so primarily by investing in the existing corrupted system. Alas, the system has proven itself in the capacity for spreading fear; it doles out fear like the Niagara River doles out water. Constant. Unabated. Predictable.

And who props up this system that manipulates with fear? Ans: witting and unwitting human units that choose one side of the contrived political cut (or the other). If the cut was real, e.g. not contrived, then perhaps you would have a point. But it isn't ... so your point is invalid. IMHO.

So when we speak of fear-enablers, we are - for the most part - speaking of system-enablers, i.e. those that haven't yet broken from the chains of contrived left-right dichotomy. Here's hoping you make your break sooner than later.

:tea:

:typing:

ps: Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh ... I was merely trying to match you, rant for rant. Now that the rant's been runt, I apologize.

hyundisonata

5th November 2010, 22:24

Well I have been shouting from the rooftops for long enough, so do not panic if you live in the states. This is a continuation of the 1947 war in the Antarctic. Most of the American and the worlds fleets are already there .Britain will be sending more this month after they finish trials (nuclear capability) and will sail for the south of Africa. The rest are or where gathering in the Arabian Sea. This is not ET being aggressive. It is a last ditch attempt by the elite to protect their dwindling world. Hope they get their asses kicked big style as in 1947.

Chakra

6th November 2010, 00:40

After that, the Obamas will be hosted by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at a private dinner. (as in plural)

Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/foreign-secretary-on-barack-obamas-visit-64455?cp
I think they will be outsourcing usa jobs to india

Simpson's in India

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cReHCdLBB5Y

Snowbird

6th November 2010, 01:22

Has anyone researched how many people other American Presidents have taken with them on overseas trips and in particular to countries where there are likely to be flaws in security (by western standards, which aren't perfect) and many fanatics in the populace?

Here is on example:

Claim: President Obama's November 2010 trip to India will cost taxpayers $200 million per day.

False

Moreover, CNN noted that the cost of similar trips undertaken by other presidents came nowhere close to the $200 million per day figure being claimed of President Obama's Asian visit:

While the exact cost of Obama's 10-day trip to Asia is not known to the public, an examination of similar presidential excursions in the past support the likelihood that the $200 million-a-day figure is exaggerated.

For example, an 11-day trip by then-President Bill Clinton to Africa in 1998 involving about 1,300 people cost $5.2 million a day, according to the federal Government Accountability Office, which adjusted for inflation.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/india.asp

witchy1

6th November 2010, 04:34

Bill Ryan

6th November 2010, 11:37

Hi Snowbird, its in my very being to question everything that comes from tptb - I would have to ask if clintons africa trip inlcuded 34 warships, aircraft carrier, jet fighters, 3000 people as well. Odds on this type on contingent dont come too cheap! Or is the entourage being taken inflated as well. I dont know - just asking the question? I just searched for what it would cost to run a war ship for a year - looks like related internet info is missing - or I'm searching in the wrong places.
It could be that it should have been reported 3-4 warships will be included (and this has transcribed to 34). Just a thought.

Hi there: I think you misread Snowbird's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7750-Galactics-Have-Contacted-Indian-Government-and-Military/page7).

Snowbird was referencing Snopes (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7750-Galactics-Have-Contacted-Indian-Government-and-Military&p=66457&viewfull=1#post66457). The numbers in the Obama-in-India report (according to Snopes) been hugely misrepresented or misunderstood.

http://snopes.com/politics/obama/india.asp

The report, of course, has gone viral. As I write this I'm listening to Clif High talking to Mel Fabragas, and he references this as well.

I'll not be at all surprised to reach the end of next week (14 November) to realize that nothing's happened of any magnitude.

I'm not pooh-poohing those who have been preparing for the possibility of difficult times - I have some food and other items stored, but then everyone should have those - but I'm keeping my powder dry until I'm fully convinced we're about to hit a real problem.

And some of you will know that I'm sure that difficult times are certainly planned for us. But my feeling is that this month (November 2010) is still a little early.

If I add my voice to the current voices of concern, I join in this latest cry of 'Wolf' - and so we may not be prepared for when the REAL Wolf comes - as it might.

Kra

6th November 2010, 13:12

hyundisonata

6th November 2010, 14:24

Oops got the date wrong as the British ships sailed for east Africa at the end of October on the pretext of policing the pirates. Kind of a big sledge hammer for a few pirates lol.

Agape

6th November 2010, 15:24

Without any disrespect and disclaimer ( I feel that neither of those two are necessary ) to Michelle and Barack Obama ( Happy Diwalli folks !!! ) ,

such a grand parade tour ala Alexander the Great or Akhnaton army conquering the rest of the known world , payed by people who actually did not want to pay that ( who would ), with consent of parlamentary body who actually never voted for Obama ( half of them would deny the elections were legit lol )
and with or without consent of president himself ( disputable point ) ,

is probably to show the world that we are all to feel safe and protected .

Yay. So you know if there was something to happen yet this year it won't. And next holidays it's cottage in Alaska , dear kids . Someone else will do the job .

Can any president choose his budget and security poilicies and political situation he/she was born/elected to ?

:angel:

Beth

6th November 2010, 20:07

They don't like to do false flags on Saturdays. Everyone is watching football and won't notice.

Shairia

6th November 2010, 21:31

Not everybody is watching football, personally sports are an appeasement for the enslaved masses to keep them from rebelling against their controllers. If it distracts you from the serious issues of life then great.

My take on this show of power is that the President is posturing for a show of miliary strength, either against China or N. Korea. It's just part of the game.

Beth

6th November 2010, 23:18

Not everybody is watching football, personally sports are an appeasement for the enslaved masses to keep them from rebelling against their controllers. If it distracts you from the serious issues of life then great.

First, I was joking, most seem to understand my humor. Second, I guess I'm just one of those enslaved masses. I should of been reading about merkaba tune ups instead.

Celine

7th November 2010, 00:18

First, I was joking, most seem to understand my humor.

Something about Cats, correct?

;)

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0805/reminder-cat-demotivational-poster-1210720917.jpg

Arpheus

7th November 2010, 00:20

Why do all persian cats have to look like they got smashed punched in the face LOL they look weird hehe,i like the egyptian ones better.

Beth

7th November 2010, 00:22

Something about Cats, correct?

;)

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0805/reminder-cat-demotivational-poster-1210720917.jpg

LOL, yes!! :lol:

Beth

7th November 2010, 02:41

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/11/6/c87d06cd-718b-4719-841c-5800833486ee.jpg

noxon medem

7th November 2010, 03:12

I don't think something will happen either but there's got to be a reason for which they've put those numbers as a sign in simpsons (and that scene as it is). When they do this they are pointing to something that will happen (it's not the first time). Unless (something that i don't believe) they started putting "decoy" signs for those that are paying attention.

The infamous "surveilance with love" episode of Simpsons you refer to (aired May 2nd 2010) was not about the future (11.6.10).
It was about the past (9.11.01), and of course the surveilance spreading to present time and beyond.
It is nicely summed up by zookumar in this opening post :
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7833-Final-thoughts-on-Simpsons-video-clip.

The key images (page7, post #64), and further discussion, in this thread :
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7716-False-Flag-Attack-November-2010-POSSIBLY-PREDICTED!/page7

All well.
nm

Kra

7th November 2010, 05:00

The infamous "surveilance with love" episode of Simpsons you refer to (aired May 2nd 2010) was not about the future (11.6.10).
It was about the past (9.11.01), and of course the surveilance spreading to present time and beyond.
It is nicely summed up by zookumar in this opening post :
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7833-Final-thoughts-on-Simpsons-video-clip.

The key images (page7, post #64), and further discussion, in this thread :
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7716-False-Flag-Attack-November-2010-POSSIBLY-PREDICTED!/page7

All well.
nm

I've read zookumar's thread and the rest about this subject and i know they we're trying to say that 9/11 was indeed an inside job... but i thought they will do another false flag (as a ceremony?) on 11.06.2010.

noxon medem

7th November 2010, 09:12

I've read zookumar's thread and the rest about this subject and i know they we're trying to say that 9/11 was indeed an inside job... but i thought they will do another false flag (as a ceremony?) on 11.06.2010.

Well, it now seems "they" didn't, at least not in obvious ways. Or it failed, or was stopped by someone or something.
- Hope you'r not disappointed . :usa2: ( terrible joke, I know, but couldn't help it ..)

On your topic, it would be more natural to choose 11th of june ( 6.11.10 ) for such a "ceremony".
But if there was a false flag of the size we have been speculating of here, then it would be much more than a ceremony,
and quickly escalate into something realy huge and very bad, and widespread.
My opinion is that another huge false flag event is not needed now, from "their" point of view.
The systems are in place, after 9.11, and now it is maintenance and confidence that are key words.
Smaller "almost accidents" like the underwearbomber and the latest toner-cartridge incident.
( both connected to airplanes, and Yemen, so the political agenda goes ahead anyway )
This keeps us reminded that the (muslim) terrorist threat still is here, and we can see that the
laws and systems put in place are indeed working to detect and protect from these accidents.

- In my post I should have written " If anything - it was about ..."
I accept the idea that foreshadowing of some events can occur in media, but coinsidence do happen, and artists can also
intuitively pick up something from the "ether" and incorporate it in their works, without necessaraly having detail information.

On our end of this we should learn not to let the mind run completely amok with this game without some internal supervision.
And remember that our focus very much decide what we see, in a world that possibly contain everything.
Start thinking (focus on seeing) anything, and you will start seeing it everywhere. Think of the colour red, look at something red,
then spend some minutes moving and looking around, and you will notice there is red colours and objects all over the place.
So the focus reaffirm and enhance itself, and we should be aware of this. A certain degree of paranoia and skeptic suspicion
are some of the useful tools available to the mind, but there is a lot of other, and very different ones, in our toolbox.

To speculate and solving riddles can be both fun and rewarding, but if overdone can serve as empty distractions,
that takes time and attention away from other, maybe more important personal and public issues.

There is a lot of different opinions of our documented past history, and people in general disagree even about the present reality,
that we can observe (and examine) right in front of us. - How can we possibly agree of how the future looks like ?

By the way:
Here the winter came very early this year. It started snowing on the 6th of november.
Time to dig out the snowboard from the depths of the basement. Fun..

All well to you, and to all.
For now and beyond.

Kra

7th November 2010, 10:50

Well, it now seems "they" didn't, at least not in obvious ways. Or it failed, or was stopped by someone or something.
I think it might be the case... but i guess we'll "never" know.

- Hope you'r not disappointed . :usa2: ( terrible joke, I know, but couldn't help it ..)
Ah... the way i wrote made you say this joke. No i'm not dissapointed (how could i) but that scene from Simpsons... it bugs me. There are signs in every major TV shows, numbers (that mean something), symbols, subliminal messages etc. It became normal to spot all these. For example a few months ago i heard Jordan Maxwell talking about Gladiator fights and how this is still happening but a little different... and i said to myself (being familiar with MMA (Mixed Martial Arts)) "exactly true... i made the connections long before". One day i was watching an UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) episode and in one of the slides that helps the transition from info about fighters to live, what do i see ? immediately caught my attention i hit the pause and took a screen shot: http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7821/crackdown.png
Another time i was watching a DVD (official WEC DVD) with compilation of WEC fights (World Extreme Cagefighting, WEC = UFC's little sister), and guess what the menu song was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aky8MWsv704
I don't like the song but anyway... How much more clear can these get ? sometimes i'm amazed how clear and direct these "signs" can be. Am i crazy ?
To re-post a song originally posted by truthseekerdan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe500eIK1oA

PS. For the record, i don't like the violence in these fights, i watch many shows for these signs but in UFC's case not only for signs but for MMA techniques.

Carmody

8th November 2010, 02:48

Kra

8th November 2010, 03:01

Re your avatar: is it Monday already? 11/09/10 (treyarch issuance)

No... not yet, that is Ghost from modern warfare 2. But i'm not a gamer.... though i am familiar with most of the games, i don't play.

freespirit

9th November 2010, 18:48

Have you all gone mad !

We started with Re: Galactics Have Contacted Indian Government and Military
Thank you truthseekerdan.

Instead there is a lot of crazy talk about obama and his entourage.

fr

hyundisonata

10th November 2010, 20:48

Thought this interesting. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7038111n&tag=related;photovideo
Do you not find it strange that a missile was launched and no one is admitting owning it lol? Then there is the direction. Yip Asia. Now we do not know the range but as it seems a big one then no doubt it could reach anywhere on that continent. Now simple fact. What goes up must come down. Now is this a case of the Americans not wanting Obama back by trying to nuke him lol. Or is it more sinister that the rest of the world should know about.

Rocky_Shorz

10th November 2010, 21:24

kind of interesting with everything going on right now, the whisper an Indian Nuke set off in its silo... a missile self launches from a Nuke Sub...

China's sub pops up in the middle of America's carrier fleet...

the Sun has a dang Cannon pointed at us right now capable of popping off an X-class flare...

Having ET show up at this point shouldn't surprise anyone...

jcocks

11th November 2010, 07:29

No, the interesting thing is that the aliens seem to go to such lengths to STOP nuclear weapons from being launched.... Now they actually ALLOW one to detonate inside its' silo??

Doesn't this seem a little odd?

ANother strange thing I thought I'd bring up...

About 10 years ago, when I first started on my spiritual awakening, I had a dream where I saw a nuclear weapon being detonated in India,and I then said (in my dream) "Great, now the ascention can go ahead"....

Now it seems that this has happened! .

And a parting thought that has occured to me, crazy enough to actually be true :

Let's say the Earth was a living entity (as it is)..... It would make sense that it would have a system of chakras like we do, right?

Let's say one of her chakras was blocked........ In india...( :becky: )

You'd use accumpuncture to clear it somehow, but what would be big and powerful enough to act as the needle????? (Yes, I think you might get where I'm going...and it is POSITIVELY INSANE !!!

But why else would the entities that seem so determined to stop our nuclear weapons from being used actually allow one to detonate inside mother earth????? )

It's one of the most insane things I've ever thought of, but it's one explanation that actually makes sense when you look at it with an open mind...