Ok ... Want some some 'official' disclosure ? ... Here it is !

[Operator]

Ok ...


Want some official disclosure ... !?!


Here it is: https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/key_to_et_messages.pdf

From the NSA itself ... :yo:

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

*jaw drops*

I just looked at that thing -- remarkable.

It would be quite something if all this "cold war" cyberwarfare stuff was just a cover for the race to decipher ET.

@_@ *sweat*

[GoodETxSG]

There are a lot of these types of things that the NSA code breakers worked on... Cool find! :)

https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/key_to_et_messages.pdf

[Shadowself]

another pdf:

https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/et_intelligence.pdf

From this page with a whole lot more:

https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ufo/

[ghostrider]

We all know they have been hiding ET's interaction with Earth mankind ... this is probably just the tip of the iceberg ...great find ... ha ha , read one report a UFO ( they said probably a balloon) went 40 miles up and stayed on a perfect 90 degree angle ..

[Earthship]

Wonderful find, Operator! Some questions for the Avalonians...


1. Is here at Avalon Forum someone who is specialist, from a scientific point of view, in this issues, in order to explain us, the readers what this find means?
2. The document provided by the NSA web site, is it just mere speculation, or is it real?
3. Were those "codes" really received? Maybe were they received from our own planet (a human source) and later mistaken as if received from an "extraterrestrial" source????

Thanks in advance!

[Shadowself]

A little info on the author of the pdf

http://invention.smithsonian.org/downloads/fa_cohc_tr_camp700709.pdf


And this:

https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/oral_history_interviews/nsa_oh_14_83_campaigne.pdf

[Carmody]

Someone asked me to take a look at this thread and...once here... I recall that I have seen this before.

[Earthship]

Someone asked me to take a look at this thread and...once here... I recall that I have seen this before.

Could you elaborate a little bit, Carmody?
Thanks in advance!

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Edited post, two hours later.

Carmody, please don´t bother to answer. In post number 10, Indigo Pete explained the context of the text given in the opening post.

[indigopete]

Before this thread becomes the laughing stock of the internet, better check out some context.

It's an exercise in cryptology. Try this link for more background: https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cryptologic_spectrum/extraterrestrial_intelligence.pdf

Anyway. As I've repeatedly expressed in these forums, the "aliens" are us and the animals. No need for cryptic messages ;)

[birddog]

More disinformation....many ETs already do understand us. Don't expect NSA to tell you the truth about anything. They are involved up to their ears. ETs have language. For the negative ETs, some of the hybrids are the translaters, if the aliens don't know our language already. As for the positive ETs, All of the ones that I have encountered, and that is many, seem to understand us, in one way or another. Feelings transcend language in many cultures. Most aliens can read our intentions, regardless of what is said.

[Earthship]

Before this thread becomes the laughing stock of the internet, better check out some context.

It's an exercise in cryptology. Try this link for more background: https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cryptologic_spectrum/extraterrestrial_intelligence.pdf

Anyway. As I've repeatedly expressed in these forums, the "aliens" and us and the animals. No need for cryptic messages ;)

Understood! Got it!
Thanks, Indigo Pete...!

[indigopete]

...many ETs already do understand us

Interesting your subscription to the "us and them" paradigm.

(Be advised you share that perspective with the NSA ;) )

The idea that the NSA is "hiding the aliens from us" is kind of like being in a forest and claiming that you're having the trees hidden from you. In fact the only person that's capable of that is the observer :)

[Cidersomerset]

22. We notice that TV is used in every message, and parallels the
usage of UV. Assuming TV is a binary Boolean operator, the messages
parse,

If they are talking about the Booteans the ET race that modified our
ancestors and are supposed to be in contact with us , or will be , by
leaving an artefact by the internatinational space station...Cool stuff ..LOL

[Operator]

Before this thread becomes the laughing stock of the internet, better check out some context.

It's an exercise in cryptology. Try this link for more background: https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cryptologic_spectrum/extraterrestrial_intelligence.pdf

Anyway. As I've repeatedly expressed in these forums, the "aliens" are us and the animals. No need for cryptic messages ;)

That publication followed the one I referred to. Like the Roswell debacle was changed from 'the Army Air force is now in the possession
of a flying disc' to 'weather balloon .... :twitch:' ...damage control perhaps?

Well here's a source leading up to that document:
http://ufodigest.com/article/official-et-disclosure-nsa-document-admits-et-contact-kevin-w-smith

Kevin Smith unfortunately mysteriously/suddenly died a couple of years ago (hard to find details :confused:, anyone?) and
he also broke the story around Bulgarian Dr. Lachezar Filipov. He clearly was onto something ...



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On October 21, 2004, the NSA approved for release to the public a portion of their NSA Journal Vol. XIV No. 1. This is a report of a presentation given to the NSA by Dr. Howard Campaigne regarding the decoding of extraterrestrial messages that had been received “form outer space”. Apparently, these messages had actually been received via the Sputnik satellite, but no one had any idea how to decode them at the time.
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That statement clearly indicates that they are allegedly real signals/messages. However I am unfamiliar with the Sputnik capabilities.
I am only aware of the first Sputnik which I think only transmitted a signal. Perhaps someone could expand/follow up on that.



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It is curious, to say the least, that this document was cleared for release on October 21, 2004. Why was that? Because the NSA did not release it into public information until April 21, 2011. Though cleared for release, the NSA had been stonewalling it along with hundreds of other NSA documents about contact with UFOs and extraterrestrials until they lost the lawsuit brought by Peter Gersten, a lawyer from Arizona.
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If it is a harmless publication then why did it take so much trouble to get it released?

So yeah, I agree ... a bit of healthy skepticism and good deal of discernment should be applied but sometimes they
make mistakes and some of the cracks in their bastion show up in public. These are the only breadcrumbs we have ...

[indigopete]

So yeah, I agree ... a bit of healthy skepticism and good deal of discernment should be applied but sometimes they
make mistakes and some of the cracks in their bastion show up in public. These are the only breadcrumbs we have ...

I'm not trying to dismiss potentially interesting publications for the sake of it.

But over the last couple of years it's struck me how obsessed the UFO community has become with state institutions. They seem to think that they hold the key to the entire natural world (if we consider all life in the universe as 'the entire natural world').

When I started considering this, the idea grew on me how ridiculous this was.

If there are "aliens out there", why would we make a distinction between people who have top secret security clearances and people who don't ?

The answer of course is they wouldn't which leads us to consider the real agenda - a kind if unconscious collusion between UFO fanatics and the establishment where the former endows the latter with a secretive agenda thats basically just a projection of earthly phenomena into space, while the latter are quite happy for that state of affairs to prevail because it gives them cover for just about any project they care to pursue that is in fact a genuine secret.

The idea that there are "real aliens out there" is easily dealt with by the conclusion that they're all around us in the form of ourselves and our fellow space traveller species with whom we share this planet for the very brief, blink of an eyelid in universal time, instant that we're here.

[Hervé]

Thinking aloud...

... when something is difficult to obtain - as in very rare or very risky to obtain - it is automatically given high value or being worth its weight in gold, etc...

So, looking for messages from outer space is automatically given more value/truth than looking at "who are these guys walking the halls of the White House/Kremlin?" Especially if we have been on an exchange term with personnel from their Mars and other planetoids bases for... eons :)

It's a "Don't look at me! Look way over there!" kind of proposition.

[jerry]

The following is a documentary on the topic of disclosure xs11J8lQuuY

[Operator]

Thank you all for the responses ... Instead of answering them individually I will attempt to answer most of them in one go.

I fully realize that this thread is actually not necessary for the most of us here ... it's like preaching to the choir.
The only importance it will probably have is that you might need it to arm yourself with it in discussions with people
who deny or dismiss the possibility of intelligent extraterrestrial life out there. They are the ones who will only allow
to even think about it when 'the authorities' admit that the topic is authentic.

Although, I talked with a social worker about this kind of topic recently and she even said something weird/stupid
like 'there is no such thing as facts' ... What the H... ? :wacko: Really?
There are those kind of individuals whose jobs seems to be keeping the masses in normalcy bias, between some
very narrow lines no matter what it will take. If people chose to deny that 1+1=2 ... oh, well ... :ohwell:

[Agape]

However fascinating this seems I'd remain bit critical if not skeptical with the above documents for following reasons :

There is no mention of the source , anywhere .. simply saying that something is 'message from outer space' without stating how, by whom it's been obtained has very little pragmatic value .
Conditions under which NSA could obtain the original of this data/document itself could be rather conspirative , considering lack of other note .

Next , suppose this is radio frequency signal of some kind , previously recorded on amateur or even professional equipment ( of what kind , and how or by whom is it certified it's coming 'from outer space ' but , perhaps it does ... )
what sense would there be in deciphering WORDS of human language in the signal

or our ( yes OUR specific for this planet ) periodic table of elements .


Logic : if your radio broadcast travels mysteriously to the outskirts of Andromeda , would 'translating your message to Andromedean' by local cryptographer be the very best idea to do without any sound knowledge of your alphabet system , vocabulary , grammar , numerical system etc .

Would you expect finding information about Andromeda in your terrestrial broadcast .


But, since we don't know the source of the message .. it could be something left somewhere by an ancient alien visiting this planet , that's right .

Well, in either case ... the 'puzzle' is probably going to have original form somewhere and what the above docs seem to show is 'work in progress' , someone trying to either create or decipher someone elses puzzle .

That's not much ... considering puzzle magazines are full of those.



Forgive the ramble :alien:;)

[Operator]

Ok, here's Dr Lachezar Filipov with some pretty amazing statements

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When I think about official disclosure I can't help but assume that it will be done as false flag operation.
That's killing 2 birds with 1 stone ... almost inescapable ...

P.S. actually 3 or more birds ... when 'aliens' appear to be hostile all the rest of the people have more reason to demonize those nutter propopents.