Gnosis, Mary Magdalene in the Nag Hammadi Library

[Chester]

This only scratches the surface of the likely (yes... all and only my opinion) truths 2,000 years ago -

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[Daughter of Time]

I've read the Gnostic Bible - not an easy read!

I've read the Nag Hammadi Texts - a very easy read!

The Nag Hammadi texts contain the same information as the Gnostic Bible, but in layman's language, therefore easy to follow. Ultimately, the teachings and messages are the same.

The Magdalene received many more teachings than the other apostles did, not because she was Yeshua's lover, but because her level of consciousness was higher than the other apostles' and she could absorb and understand more.

Peter hated the Magdalene. Yeshua made jokes to him about this, saying that perhaps the Magdalene should be turned into a man so that she may be accepted. Christianity, in its usual style, gave Peter the keys to Paradise!!!

Phillip's gospel is all about sex! About sacred sexuality. About the transformational power of sacred sexuality. One could deduce from the Gospel of Phillip that Yeshua and the Magdalene practiced sacred sexuality, although it is never fully specified here.

If the Gnostic teachings intrigue you... and if you are interested in the story of The Pistis Sophia, then read the Nag Hammadi texts. They are clear, concise and simply written.

Forget the Gnostic Bible unless you are a scholar. It will, otherwise, drive you crazy with the level of obtuseness.

With love,

Daughter of Time

[Chester]

I wasn't there but if I had to bet... I would bet Mary taught Jesus more than Jesus taught Mary.

[Milneman]

Buy a geometry set. Start drawing circles.

[Shezbeth]

Someone once posited to me that Mary was a priestess of the Goddess of Love. This idea takes on a particular intrigue IMO, as the Goddess of Love is/was Venus in some traditions. Venus is also often referred to in some cultures as the Morning Star. Oh dear, did I just go there?

[CD7]

Someone once posited to me that Mary was a priestess of the Goddess of Love. This idea takes on a particular intrigue IMO, as the Goddess of Love is/was Venus in some traditions. Venus is also often referred to in some cultures as the Morning Star. Oh dear, did I just go there?


Hehe yes u did and why not when one starts looking at all the puzzle pieces...many seem to cris cross blend together....

off the beaten path from mary and not meaning to derail but has anyone seen Malificent? There something about tht story that lingers...interesting garden like kingdom man was banned from :rolleyes:, Malificent with her horns (resembling devil) was a being of light tht turned to darkness...cant help but feel something about tht story but cant put my finger on it hehe
Also interesting how we are conditioned into a story (sleeping beauty) as a child given a highly skewed version of all the turn of events presenting a very differnt story from this current version they've dangled out into the ethers...theres even much more to it i intuit....:-D

[Shezbeth]

I'm highly skeptical of anything Disney (if one hasn't, they might look up a youtube vid called "The Oversexualization of Girls"), but I've found that the villain is not always really a villain. In many cases, the Villain is a hero in their own right, or at the very least, an anti-hero. I appreciate your mentioning of it, that is good to hear.

I would beware of subliminals though. Also, I'm skeptical of those cheekbones Jolie.

[CD7]

I would beware of subliminals though



LOL!! If your worried about subliminals you mind as well be dead--non existent! There EVERYWHERE--- Hehe true story :D

But i do get yah...the song at the end of the movie had a very enticingly spellbinding effect on me!

[Chester]

Someone once posited to me that Mary was a priestess of the Goddess of Love. This idea takes on a particular intrigue IMO, as the Goddess of Love is/was Venus in some traditions. Venus is also often referred to in some cultures as the Morning Star. Oh dear, did I just go there?

She was also known as Mary Lucifera dating back to her sojourn to what is today the south of France.

[Shezbeth]

I didn't say "avert your eyes", but Frozen - for example - is chock full of programming.

Here's that vid I mentioned. Sorry Justone, I'll axe it if you prefer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwUwchCeeI4

[CD7]

Once upon a dream......

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awwww three times a charm :)

[Chester]

Someone once posited to me that Mary was a priestess of the Goddess of Love. This idea takes on a particular intrigue IMO, as the Goddess of Love is/was Venus in some traditions. Venus is also often referred to in some cultures as the Morning Star. Oh dear, did I just go there?

She was also known as Mary Lucifera dating back to her sojourn to what is today the south of France.

In Lynn Picknett's Secret History of Lucifer in the introduction (page xii) -


And it is hugely significant to her devotees in the south of France, she was known as 'Mary Lucifer' - 'Mary the Light-bringer.

This was a time honoured tradition, pagan goddesses were known, for example, as 'Diana Licifera' or Isis Lucifer' to signify their power to illuminate mind and soul, to create a mystical bond between deity and worshipper, to open up both body and psyche to the Holy Light.

[Meggings]

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[Milneman]

Uhm...peeps? This might actually blow this entire theory right out of the water.


If you can get into it, http://www.jstor.org/stable/25067661

from Near Eastern Archaeology, Vol. 69, No. 3/4 (Sep-Dec., 2006), pp 118-124 published by The American Schools of Oriental Research

Is the Talpiot tomb really the family tomb of Jesus?
by Shimon Gibson

excerpts taken from pp 123-124


The Family Tomb of Jesus?

There has been a lot of controversy worldwide about the suggestion that the Talpiot tomb might be the family tomb of Jesus. This is the point of view taken by the filmmakers
Jacobovici and Cameron, but the full archaeological and historical arguments for this idea have been nurtured over
a couple of years by James Tabor, first in his book The Jesus Dynasty and later in a series of blog statements on the internet.
Beyond the general recognition of the similarity between certain names on the Talpiot ossuaries with that of names known from
the Gospels (Jesus>Mary, and Joseph), the main thrust of their argument has been that the "Mariamene" named on one of the
ossuaries is a form of Mariamne, that should be identified as that of Mary Magdalene, and that the "Yose"name on another ossuary should be identified as that of Joses the brother of
Jesus (Mark 6:3). This clustering of names, when examined statistically in terms of the appearance of Jewish names of the period, are taken to represent strong evidence in support of the
Jesus family tomb hypothesis.
So what should we make of this? The suggestion that the
Mariamne name is that of Mary Magdalene is based on an
association between the two as reflected in the Acts of Philip
and as it appears in an article published by Francois Bovon in 2002. Since the Acts of Philip date from the fourth century,
and since the only other possible reference to Mary Magdalane as Mariamne is in the writings of Hippolytus from the second century CE, one must express extreme caution in the suggestion that Mariamne was Mary Magdalene's real name.
However, as mentioned above, the proper reading for the so-called Mariamne inscription appears to be "Mariame kai
Mara," as suggested by Pueche and Pfann, a reading that I
wholeheartedly support. It would imply that remains of two female individuals were kept in the ossuary, amother and
daughter, or perhaps two sisters. If one accepts this reading then the entire argument about Mariamene being Mariamne,
and Mariamne being Mary Magdalene, evaporates. The name "Yose" on one of the other ossuaries is actually a shortened
form of Yehosef, and, inmy opinion, this is probably the same Yehosef who is the father of Yeshua on another ossuary in the tomb, who, in turn, was the father of Yehuda. Hence, if we
discount the Mariamne=Mary Magdalene and Yose=brother
of Jesus connections, then we are simply left with a group of
ossuaries bearing common Jewish names of the first century CE. As a result of this, there isnothing to commend this tomb as the family tomb of Jesus. At best, the names of the ossuaries are
suggestive, but nothing more.

[Shezbeth]

<patiently waits for the 'lid to be blown off'>

Wait, that was it?


At best, the names of the ossuaries are suggestive, but nothing more.

Didja miss this part, cuz I didn't,....

[Milneman]

It's a big step to say something is certain from something that might be suggestive.

Of course, if you'd like to do that, you can! But it can be dangerous to do it, especially if something eventually comes along to prove you wrong. Chances are this is not the tomb. I've done some pretty in depth research into tombs around the area recently and the symbolism on the doorway isn't uncommon, like the names in the tomb. What is unusual is that the tomb was found via dynamite. After that? It's a pretty boring tomb that exhibits geometric complexities that, under study, basically show it to be similar to other far more complex and far more interesting tombs.

here's a hint for ya Shez. You're in the wrong location for starters. If you want really interesting stuff, you need to go nearer to the temple mount.

Loving circularity. ;)

Your move. ;)

[Shezbeth]

here's a hint for ya Shez. You're in the wrong location for starters. If you want really interesting stuff, you need to go nearer to the temple mount.

Here's a hint for you Milne. Observing one operating from a different location doesn't make theirs wrong. If you have evidence, pray wax upon it. If you do not pray wane? It is increasingly clear that we differ on what is 'interesting', but I would not assume to tell you where to go,...

... it might get me banned!

[Daughter of Time]

Someone once posited to me that Mary was a priestess of the Goddess of Love. This idea takes on a particular intrigue IMO, as the Goddess of Love is/was Venus in some traditions. Venus is also often referred to in some cultures as the Morning Star. Oh dear, did I just go there?


Hehe yes u did and why not when one starts looking at all the puzzle pieces...many seem to cris cross blend together....

off the beaten path from mary and not meaning to derail but has anyone seen Malificent? There something about tht story that lingers...interesting garden like kingdom man was banned from :rolleyes:, Malificent with her horns (resembling devil) was a being of light tht turned to darkness...cant help but feel something about tht story but cant put my finger on it hehe
Also interesting how we are conditioned into a story (sleeping beauty) as a child given a highly skewed version of all the turn of events presenting a very differnt story from this current version they've dangled out into the ethers...theres even much more to it i intuit....:-D

I have not seen Maleficent. I will, some day, primarily for entertainment purposes and also because I like myth as every myth has origins in truth.

A light being turning dark is not an unusual phenomenon. Give someone a lot of trauma which renders them spiritually unconscious and they can be programmed to do just about anything, including very dark deeds.

The Pistis Sophia, AKA The Goddess, AKA the Great Mother, AKA God's consort, AKA the female God... was thrown into chaos after ancient archons stole her light, leaving her in chaos for 13 billion years while she called on her male counterpart to save her, to help her, to send her light so that she may have the strength to lift from the darkness. As the story goes, He finally did respond to her. It took Him a long time because He did not understand how important She was to form a balanced creation.

In those 13 billion years in chaos, many of her parts fragmented. The story is a very long one, but many of her parts turned dark on account of anger and pain. These incarnated parts of her behave in ways that may be considered evil, when ultimately, they are just pained, horribly traumatized fragments that desperately need to be healed, to receive light - the light which is rightfully theirs but was taken from them.

Compassion, for everything and everyone is, to my current level of understanding, the only way to heal these stray fragments and to restore some balance, or perhaps, to create balance where there never was any.

With love,

Daughter of Time

[Milneman]

here's a hint for ya Shez. You're in the wrong location for starters. If you want really interesting stuff, you need to go nearer to the temple mount.

Here's a hint for you Milne. Observing one operating from a different location doesn't make theirs wrong. If you have evidence, pray wax upon it. If you do not pray wane? It is increasingly clear that we differ on what is 'interesting', but I would not assume to tell you where to go,...

... it might get me banned!

Meh...why would I do your work for you? If you're not interested, that's cool. Just that if you do decide to go closer to the temple mount you may find something that might make Nag Hammadi, Talpiot, and the ossuaries inside it even more conclusive to your thesis.

As for being banned....live a little. You may find the mods are a lot more open minded than you suspect. ;)

[birddog]

Daughter of Time, I disagree with this bologna! ........ "have not seen Maleficent. I will, some day, primarily for entertainment purposes and also because I like myth as every myth has origins in truth." ***This doesn't mean it is about Magdalene.

"A light being turning dark is not an unusual phenomenon. Give someone a lot of trauma which renders them spiritually unconscious and they can be programmed to do just about anything, including very dark deeds." ***Btw, HOW would you know this, anyway??? Is this your line of work?

** It is a free will choice one way or the other, and Mary is stronger willed and more powerful than most. She will not turn dark. She would rather die.

I am going to say what I am thinking Daughter of Time, you sound like you are trying to make Mary Magdalene out to be a satanist. This would NEVER happen.


"The Pistis Sophia, AKA The Goddess, AKA the Great Mother, AKA God's consort, AKA the female God... was thrown into chaos after ancient archons stole her light, leaving her in chaos for 13 billion years while she called on her male counterpart to save her, to help her, to send her light so that she may have the strength to lift from the darkness. As the story goes, He finally did respond to her. It took Him a long time because He did not understand how important She was to form a balanced creation."

***You have no idea of Mary's strength or abilities. Your words are yours, they are not Mary's story. Don't try and speak for her, you can't. I don't know where you get such nonsense. People write books every day, but it doesn't mean that the words in those books speak the truth.


"In those 13 billion years in chaos, many of her parts fragmented. The story is a very long one, but many of her parts turned dark on account of anger and pain. These incarnated parts of her behave in ways that may be considered evil, when ultimately, they are just pained, horribly traumatized fragments that desperately need to be healed, to receive light - the light which is rightfully theirs but was taken from them."

***Again, your words are your own. You are not Mary, and you don't know her story.


"Compassion, for everything and everyone is, to my current level of understanding, the only way to heal these stray fragments and to restore some balance, or perhaps, to create balance where there never was any."

***Mary, is not fragmented. If there are any fragments around, it is all of these "false truths" that are being told. More 'new world order stuff' like Starbird started with all that 'Blade and Chalice" story. Jesus and Mary never did any of those sexual rituals. Then it was said that the Grail was the womb. Ha, what else are they going to come up with? All falsely invented along the lines of the NEW WORLD ORDER. That's right. Mary received the Grail in this lifetime in 90 or 91.
It was in one of the giant almond seeds that Jesus gave to her. But it wasn't the womb, as others said that it was.

The Masons and the Satanists did the sexual rituals, and thus the story of the blade and the chalice came about. They wanted Mary in their fold. It will never happen.


With love,

Daughter of Time

Mary did not fragment, did not turn 'dark', did not work for the goddess of love, didn't at any time have horns. The Great Mother is Mary Mother of God.
While others refer to Mary Magdalene as Goddess, she, herself, will not respond to it, in fact, she denies it. She is more like Snow White than sleeping beauty, as she talks to the little people, the fairies, nature spirits, and all the animals, and they understand.

Mary knows how to bring in the Light, and the Love energy, and send it out. She can do many things 'beyond human', but that does not make her a 'goddess'.

NO ONE can take anyone's Light from them. It is a part of their soul. Mary was never with the Archons. She was on Earth, and she was with Jesus.

Love and Light...

[Shezbeth]

Milne, I'll be sure to remember that defense if I'm ever facing a judge; "Why would I do your work for you?". I'm not equating myself with a judge, but you seem to want to suggest alternative ideas, but only through vague inference,... that doesn't come across as either encouraging nor respectable IMO.

Clearly its not my work, but clearly it is yours but you view it as mine. That's the distinction.


As for being banned....live a little. You may find the mods are a lot more open minded than you suspect. ;)

Is Pooh bear wearing a cross in that picture, or is that perhaps a bit of honey dribbled on his shirt? Ha, that's a triple entendre for everyone!

Still, while you could be right about the mods, you might also be underestimating my position,.... Besides, I'm confident you get where I'm going with it; I never was one for peer pressure.

:focus: Please

[Chester]

to birddog,

Quite an emotionally charged response to the post from Daughter of Time.

More than once has a post triggered me into reaction. When I read Daughter of Time's post... I felt like I was reading her interpretation of a myth. As I read the post, I took a seat beside her and journeyed with her on the ride she was directing. By so doing, and by reading her words as metaphors, I gained some additional perspectives that assisted me in refining my own points of view.

More so in my younger days, but still sometimes even now... I find myself getting amped up about something but I have been learning to look at why I am triggered and when I do so with honesty and open mindedness, I sometimes see where I might have fallen for a self deception.

I find now when I read the interpretations of myths by others where I do not necessarily resonate with their current points of view, I am also able to remember that my own points of view have shifted tremendously over time and I now more often find myself seeking the jewels within the stories of others instead of experiencing polarization.

I was compelled to post this only because there have been dozens of posts generated by Daughter of Time that have been wonderful to my experience.