[hoax] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s

[sigma6]

The same covert deception behind the Piltdown man, that created a false missing link that doesn't exist, that never existed, the fraud itself being the proof of their knowledge of this fact, is still alive and well today... The agenda is still the same, this is the storyline is right out of Planet of the Apes (except we are the ones doing it to our own kind...) Deception on deception, covert premeditated and planned deception to support false scientific theories... People who are supposed to be in the highest positions of responsibility, taking priceless artifacts and in this case large human skeletons, appropriating them under the guise of a Government authority, then secreting them away and having them destroyed behind the public's back in order to propagate what they know is a false doctrine that can't be proven scientifically, the implications of the depth of the fraud haven't even been fully articulated here... Would love to Michael Cremo's take on this judgement... A vindication for his lifelong fight to bring the truth to the masses. He should sue these stinking Freemason bastards... :nono:

Smithsonian Admits to Destruction of Thousands of Giant Human Skeletons in Early 1900′s

http://vortexcourage.me/2014/12/05/smithsonian-admits-to-destruction-of-thousands-of-giant-human-skeletons-in-early-1900%E2%80%B2s/


A US Supreme Court ruling has forced the Smithsonian institution to release classified papers dating from the early 1900′s that proves the organization was involved in a major historical cover up of evidence showing giants human remains in the tens of thousands had been uncovered all across America and were ordered to be destroyed by high level administrators to protect the mainstream chronology of human evolution at the time.

The allegations stemming from the American Institution of Alternative Archeology (AIAA) that the Smithsonian Institution had destroyed thousands of giant human remains during the early 1900′s was not taken lightly by the Smithsonian who responded by suing the organization for defamation and trying to damage the reputation of the 168-year old institution.

During the court case, new elements were brought to light as several Smithsonian whistle blowers admitted to the existence of documents that allegedly proved the destruction of tens of thousands of human skeletons reaching between 6 feet and 12 feet in height, a reality mainstream archeology can not admit to for different reasons, claims AIAA spokesman, James Churward.

«
There has been a major cover up by western archaeological institutions since the early 1900′s to make us believe that America was first colonized by Asian peoples migrating through the Bering Strait 15,000 years ago, when in fact, there are hundreds of thousands of burial mounds all over America which the Natives claim were there a long time before them, and that show traces of a highly developed civilization, complex use of metal alloys and where giant human skeleton remains are frequently found but still go unreported in the media and news outlets» he explains.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/femur.jpg

A turning point of the court case was when a 1.3 meter long human femur bone was shown as evidence in court of the existence of such giant human bones. The evidence came as a blow to the Smithsonian’s lawyers as the bone had been stolen from the Smithsonian by one of their high level curators in the mid 1930′s who had kept the bone all his life and which had admitted on his deathbed in writing of the undercover operations of the Smithsonian.

«
It is a terrible thing that is being done to the American people» he wrote in the letter. «
We are hiding the truth about the forefathers of humanity, our ancestors, the giants who roamed the earth as recalled in the Bible and ancient texts of the world».

The US Supreme Court has since forced the Smithsonian Institution to publicly release classified information about anything related to the “destruction of evidence pertaining to the mound builder culture” and to elements “relative to human skeletons of greater height than usual”, a ruling the AIAA is extremely enthused about.

«
The public release of these documents will help archaeologists and historians to reevaluate current theories about human evolution and help us greater our understanding of the mound builder culture in America and around the world» explains AIAA director, Hans Guttenberg. «
Finally, after over a century of lies, the truth about our giant ancestors shall be revealed to the world» he acknowledges, visibly satisfied by the court ruling.


We know better, look the finding itself is not being mentioned on any mainstream news channel, what reparations did they make. He blew it there... did the winner make any specific demands, did the court? Nope... That's how they play, this story will just get buried and a media vacuum will suck out all the air around it, unless we spread this story amongst ourselves and our various networks...

[David Ansible]

Sorry but until someone can cite the Supreme Court case, I am very
skeptical of this. Seems an unusual ruling for that court.

Someone in the comments section of the article made this point as well, and
the writer or editor came back with a youtube link. I watched part of the video
and sort of scrolled through the rest.

I do not believe that video references any Supreme Court case. So this is sloppy at
best.

[sigma6]

Sorry but until someone can cite the Supreme Court case, I am very
skeptical of this. Seems an unusual ruling for that court.

Someone in the comments section of the article made this point as well, and
the writer or editor came back with a youtube link. I watched part of the video
and sort of scrolled through the rest.

I do not believe that video references any Supreme Court case. So this is sloppy at
best.

go do some research...

[Pam]

I don't know why the author chose this photo for the article,it discredits what he is writing about. The bone was taken from the Smithonian in the mid thirties and kept hidden until the man that stole the femur died. Why do we have a hokey picture of a guy with a regular shovel and a perfectly clean bone standing there, obviously not taken in the 1930's? Anyway, I think it is important for folks writing about this kind of thing to try to hold up to scrutiny and provide accurate info and photos.

[sigma6]

Sorry but until someone can cite the Supreme Court case, I am very
skeptical of this. Seems an unusual ruling for that court.

Someone in the comments section of the article made this point as well, and
the writer or editor came back with a youtube link. I watched part of the video
and sort of scrolled through the rest.

I do not believe that video references any Supreme Court case. So this is sloppy at
best.


go do some research... the cognitive dissonance is understandable... for people heavily invested in the non-existent missing link theory. (How they can twist their minds inside out in this fashion is still a mystery to me...other than the psychological repression explanations) But it stands to reason on common sense alone, otherwise...

And are you denying the giant bones exist? or that the court case never happened? O.o?

[sigma6]

I don't know why the author chose this photo for the article,it discredits what he is writing about. The bone was taken from the Smithonian in the mid thirties and kept hidden until the man that stole the femur died. Why do we have a hokey picture of a guy with a regular shovel and a perfectly clean bone standing there, obviously not taken in the 1930's? Anyway, I think it is important for folks writing about this kind of thing to try to hold up to scrutiny and provide accurate info and photos.

There's a thousand photos out there about these giant bones, what is with all this bizarre commentary, like you all arrived on the planet yesterday?... has no one heard of this before?... I thought this was old news...

The important message is that the truth is being exposed, in the very halls of the people who created the lie in the first place... the liars are being caught and exposed. Just like the Piltdown man, the jig is up, it's ok to pull your head out of the sand, for all the people too afraid to think, that need to see the "proof"

First off this was all self evident logic... but I thought for all the people who perceive "fake courts full of Freemason's as the holy gospel" crowd, this would help them, but cognitive dissonance is obviously alive and well... what other explanation for these bizarre responses???

You should be rejoicing... or are you just looking at this from a creationist point of view? If that is the case your mind is really muddled... and you're going to have to do even more research on that... lol...

[ThePythonicCow]

go do some research... the cognitive dissonance is understandable... for people heavily invested in the non-existent missing link theory.
Please show us some evidence, or at least explain how far you got youself in looking for the evidence, instead of insulting us. Some of us are -not- invested in the missing link theory, quite the contrary. However some of us are invested in sharing our research, and expect the same of others.

How do you know that there is such a Supreme Court ruling?

[David Ansible]

Sorry but until someone can cite the Supreme Court case, I am very
skeptical of this. Seems an unusual ruling for that court.

Someone in the comments section of the article made this point as well, and
the writer or editor came back with a youtube link. I watched part of the video
and sort of scrolled through the rest.

I do not believe that video references any Supreme Court case. So this is sloppy at
best.


go do some research... the cognitive dissonance is understandable... for people heavily invested in the non-existent missing link theory. (How they can twist their minds inside out in this fashion is still a mystery to me...other than the psychological repression explanations) But it stands to reason on common sense alone, otherwise...

And are you denying the giant bones exist? or that the court case never happened? O.o?

There's no cognitive dissonance. Do you even know what that means? Anyway, I am not "denying" that the SC case happened. I am saying if it did, it should have been cited. More so, the person who responded in the comments should have cited the case. Why
don't YOU tell me the case?

[cloud9]

As I see it, the problem is not the validity of the stories about the giants but the court case. Did it really happen? Where? When?

[sigma6]

Anyway, I am not "denying" that the SC case happened. I am saying if it did, it should have been cited. More so, the person who responded in the comments should have cited the case. Why don't YOU tell me the case?
Cause I didn't write the article?

Cognitive Dissonance: definition:
In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.

[Matt P]

I find this very interesting. Some strange things going on. This may be an effort to actually discredit the truth of giants. Why I don't know. But, the article above is a link to a blog post in vortexcourage.me. But that's not where it was originally published. It seems to have appeared a day earlier at World News Daily Report but vortexcourage does not give credit that I noticed. That's a little strange. If you're not familiar with World News Daily Report, at the bottom of their website, they claim to be a part of the "New World Order News" and this is printed on their About Us web page:

"World News Daily Report is an American Jewish Zionist newspaper based in Tel Aviv and dedicated on covering biblical archeology news and other mysteries around the Globe. Our News Team is composed of award winning christian, muslim and jewish journalists, retired Mossad agents and veterans of the Israeli Armed Forces."

Some simple searches provided me no evidence of a supreme court decision related to the Smithsonian about this recently but I didn't spend a whole heck of a lot of time and I would love to hear if anyone else is able to find this. I find it telling that the author did not provide a link to this crucial information. That would be either a very glaring oversight or it doesn't exist.

I am a firm believer in the evidence for giants but if someone is trying to push the story without evidence or with bogus evidence, that sounds to me like one of their typical discrediting operations (you DO see who is behind this place right?). I also believe the evidence can stand on it's own, without the supreme court or smithsonian destruction of evidence angle so I'd not want to share this new info without being certain.
Interesting but a little fishy...

Matt

[edit: I forgot something. In response to one of those comments asking about the link for supreme court evidence, this youtube link was provided. It's not the evidence that was asked for but it IS a very wonderful video link:]

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[sigma6]

It does appear this article may have been faked... or at least they are posting articles on both sides (which is not atypical... )

NOT TRUE: SMITHSONIAN ADMITS TO DESTROYING GIANT SKELETONS
http://badsatiretoday.com/smithsonian-admits-destroying-giant-skeletons-1900s/

I am not basing my belief on it, only that it would vindicate the many decades of research and reports by people like Michael Creme and the late Richard Thompson etc... so it is possible this may have been faked... : (

Point is the facts of reality remain... whether a faked court made a decision or not... i.e. it didn't impress me that they did, but only it's value for others who can't see past the limitations of existing mainstream media... I guess we'll just have to wait... although I have read various reports of observations of destruction of these bones, that I never kept track of at the time, (should have kept track of them...)

update: ditto on mpennery (looks like we were thinking similar at the same time...
I guess I just have to go back to bashing the F-35 .... lol... until the "real" evidence shows up, but then that means we have to go back to the Smithsonian to get it... O.o?

[sigma6]

go do some research... the cognitive dissonance is understandable... for people heavily invested in the non-existent missing link theory.
Please show us some evidence, or at least explain how far you got youself in looking for the evidence, instead of insulting us. Some of us are -not- invested in the missing link theory, quite the contrary. However some of us are invested in sharing our research, and expect the same of others.

How do you know that there is such a Supreme Court ruling?

like I'm going to give a serious response to this... don't we have a history Paul? trying to fake up some insinuation of "insulting" who??? doesn't this ever get old for you? and of course the next back up routine will be "I made you feel stupid" this is getting a little masochistic no?

[David Ansible]

Anyway, I am not "denying" that the SC case happened. I am saying if it did, it should have been cited. More so, the person who responded in the comments should have cited the case. Why don't YOU tell me the case?
Cause I didn't write the article?

Cognitive Dissonance: definition:
In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.

I should have been clearer. Your rather snotty reply got me angry and I responded in some haste. You may have understood what cognitive dissonance is. You however made faulty assumptions about me. I am not suffering from cognitive dissonance. I have nothing invested in the missing link theory. It is a funny assumption for you to have made - quite a leap. Here's what I want: Evidence to back up claims. Okay, you understand now? The article said there is a Supreme Court case. It does not cite it. Someone notices that and makes a comment in the comment section under the article. The response does not cite a case. Why is this article using (apparently) bogus information? That's what I want to know.

[David Ansible]

go do some research... the cognitive dissonance is understandable... for people heavily invested in the non-existent missing link theory.
Please show us some evidence, or at least explain how far you got youself in looking for the evidence, instead of insulting us. Some of us are -not- invested in the missing link theory, quite the contrary. However some of us are invested in sharing our research, and expect the same of others.

How do you know that there is such a Supreme Court ruling?

like I'm going to give a serious response to this... don't we have a history Paul? trying to fake up some insinuation of "insulting" who??? doesn't this ever get old for you? and of course the next back up routine will be "I made you feel stupid" this is getting a little masochistic no?

Wow, you are an interesting fellow. You don't see how you were insulting? You were definitely insulting me. And your "tone" is awful. Moreover, you seem rather irrational. To accuse me of "cognitive dissonance" for simply pointing out that the Supreme Court case may not actually exist?

[sigma6]

Anyway, I am not "denying" that the SC case happened. I am saying if it did, it should have been cited. More so, the person who responded in the comments should have cited the case. Why don't YOU tell me the case?
Cause I didn't write the article?

Cognitive Dissonance: definition:
In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.

I should have been clearer. Your rather snotty reply got me angry and I responded in some haste. You may have understood what cognitive dissonance is. You however made faulty assumptions about me. I am not suffering from cognitive dissonance. I have nothing invested in the missing link theory. It is a funny assumption for you to have made - quite a leap. Here's what I want: Evidence to back up claims. Okay, you understand now? The article said there is a Supreme Court case. It does not cite it. Someone notices that and makes a comment in the comment section under the article. The response does not cite a case. Why is this article using (apparently) bogus information? That's what I want to know.

Possibly, but given the number of trolls and some certain mods that like to whip up political attacks I do take a pre-emptive approach, almost subconsciously, not of my choice, but as a function of the context I operate in, if I want to maintain my right to express my opinion (or so it would appear)... on this "truth forum" So I have no quelms about being "snotty", as anyone can apply any subjective interpretation of their own opinion they want, I'd rather be straight out, then crawling out from under rocks every time I smell a dung beetle fest ... (like some do around here...if you catch my meaning...) i.e. like I said, there are some here that I have a (recorded) history with, (of course I don't have any control with how they may or may not change those records, which was the original contention to begin with...) Not to worry the consensus on the internet will sort it out, just as our very real time comments are... Sorry if you felt that way... looks like we are all updating our relative positions... I continue to call it, as I see it, and have no problem with updating the record...

[fractal being]

Hi sigma6,

Perhaps you are being a bit unfair there with he criticism. As you mentioned this story needs to be distributed widely since is not reported from the MSM and to be honest to me it seems like a pretty big story. I would love to share this story with everyone I know if it has at least a minimal amount of substance. On a search all I see is the same article posted again and again copy-pasted in all sort of suspicious places on the internet without any further information. If I try to validate it myself seems impossible.

First of all, normally you would refer to a research organization as an Institute and not Institution. Furthermore if you look for the American Institution for Alternative Archeology, you won't find it anywhere in the net. I would assume that ANY institute would have a website, or at least a blog page. But for AIAA Nothing in either form. Not to mention that there is an American Institution for Aerospace and Aeronautics using the abbreviation AIAA, which means that it would be unlike that another official organization would exist with the same abbreviation.

Second, I find it difficult to believe that any court would accept the presentation of physical evidence. No matter how believable the artifact might be, they are obliged by law to have an expert report instead.

Now that doesn't mean that there isn't enough proof already around the net supporting the existence of giants or that the Smithsonian is a corrupt organization, it just means that the above article cannot support any of those claims. So unless I find somewhere the court ruling itself or the blog of a AIAA director called Hans Guttenberg (which I also couldn't find) describing his cause, I would consider this story bogus.

Thanks anyways.

[sigma6]

go do some research... the cognitive dissonance is understandable... for people heavily invested in the non-existent missing link theory.
Please show us some evidence, or at least explain how far you got youself in looking for the evidence, instead of insulting us. Some of us are -not- invested in the missing link theory, quite the contrary. However some of us are invested in sharing our research, and expect the same of others.

How do you know that there is such a Supreme Court ruling?

like I'm going to give a serious response to this... don't we have a history Paul? trying to fake up some insinuation of "insulting" who??? doesn't this ever get old for you? and of course the next back up routine will be "I made you feel stupid" this is getting a little masochistic no?

Wow, you are an interesting fellow. You don't see how you were insulting? You were definitely insulting me. And your "tone" is awful. Moreover, you seem rather irrational. To accuse me of "cognitive dissonance" for simply pointing out that the Supreme Court case may not actually exist?

I wouldn't be so quick to take Paul's bait... unless you know the whole context of the history (and pattern) and if you do, then I would question your motivations, by definition... which is it?

[sigma6]

Hi sigma6,

Perhaps you are being a bit unfair there with he criticism.
Ah sorry, exactly which "criticism"???


Now that doesn't mean that there isn't enough proof already around the net supporting the existence of giants or that the Smithsonian is a corrupt organization, it just means that the above article cannot support any of those claims.
I'd say we are all in agreement on that one... (or I agree with you on that one... : )



So unless I find somewhere the court ruling itself or the blog of a AIAA director called Hans Guttenberg (which I also couldn't find) describing his cause, I would consider this story bogus.

Perhaps in all the real time postings you missed a few posts... maybe double check that...

[bodhii71]

I have seen a trend on this forum, a decay of fact checking or impulsive posts over the last year or two. This is unfortunate since it floods the forum with a myriad of posts which dilutes and misdirects... and also lessens the impact on true or relative information to what is currently happening and lessens the ability for members to communicate effectively.
I believe the backlash you are experiencing sigma6, has more to do with this than any kind of personal vendetta against you, but perhaps this has happened before. I do not know, only that this post is misleading. Had it gone unchecked, some people would have taken this at face value believing that this truly occurred. At any rate, this equates to bad investigation (at best).
It is easy to impulsively bite the hook, I've fallen victim to this in the past and learned from making such mistakes...to attack others who begin to question the validity of a post? I think this degenerates the entire process of the forum and likens it closer to something like FaceBook. We can and should do better.

[David Ansible]

I am not taking his "bait." I agree with what he wrote.

I was unaware of your "history" with him. His comments
are valid in any case.

[sigma6]

I am not taking his "bait." I agree with what he wrote.

I was unaware of your "history" with him. His comments
are valid in any case.

duly noted, and I disagree... and re history: then you are lacking in that area... and I am basing it on info you are not privy to, by definition... not your fault, if that's your position... but it limits the value of your opinion... in this context...




I have seen a trend on this forum, a decay of fact checking or impulsive posts over the last year or two. This is unfortunate since it floods the forum with a myriad of posts which dilutes and misdirects... and also lessens the impact on true or relative information to what is currently happening and lessens the ability for members to communicate effectively.
I believe the backlash you are experiencing sigma6, has more to do with this than any kind of personal vendetta against you, but perhaps this has happened before. I do not know, only that this post is misleading. Had it gone unchecked, some people would have taken this at face value believing that this truly occurred. At any rate, this equates to bad investigation (at best).
It is easy to impulsively bite the hook, I've fallen victim to this in the past and learned from making such mistakes...to attack others who begin to question the validity of a post? I think this degenerates the entire process of the forum and likens it closer to something like FaceBook. We can and should do better.

Then you miss the value that is right in front of you... I rather like the fact that it got sorted out so quickly, if you want to call that degenerate, you are lacking discernment in static vs dynamic... To me the input was rather fast and to the point, I do bring in points of religiosity and the cognitive dissonance, because they are very real factors and therefore I do want people to think twice... everyone is entitled to their view... what I find "degenerate" are "political operatives" who try to use these posts to pass of their own political agendas, or create psychological victim responses...

To me this "acting out stuff" (victims seeking...) has nothing to do with the topic matter at hand, ie. issue of the article, legitimacy of the information, general opinions on the topic in general... gets side tracked with comments of those who want to impose "moral evaluations" on the "quality of commentary", with no concern for degenerating the post into something that has absolutely nothing to do with the main topic... like I said there are certain patterns I have adapted to almost instinctively... unfortunately that doesn't happen in a vacuum... there's more to diplomacy then kissing up, pretending, or being politically correct... which I will have none of... thank you very much... : )

[fractal being]

Ah sorry, exactly which "criticism"???

Well if I would be asked to cite a source when I post something and I wouldn't have it then I would just reply that I don't have it. Going all the way to accuse others of cognitive dissonance and ordering them to go search when yourself haven't done it, otherwise it would have become apparent to you that there wasn't anything there to research, it's a bit unfair. After all asking for more information around a post could also mean GENUINE INTEREST. Have you thought about that? Would you respond in the same manner if you had accepted that aspect first?



Perhaps in all the real time postings you missed a few posts... maybe double check that...

Indeed I had missed some posts. I still didn't see you in any of them showing any regrets for misguiding and then attacking the forum members and that's just unfortunate. Brave are the men who accept their mistakes and move on, instead of over-dramatizing situations. I couldn't care less about your past with mods, the point is can we/you move on and accept genuine interest as it is and nothing more?

Anyways those were my two cents. Have a good day.

[sigma6]

And now might be a good time to add a little context relating to the topic matter... I still think the suppression is overwhelming despite the fact that Cremo has been trying to get this message out for over 25 years... if you're looking for a victim... consider what they have take away from this man... all in the name of a false philosophical political agenda... (Given the evidence that Eastern philosophies are clearly more in alignment with the quantum physics for examples)

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[bodhii71]

Then you miss the value that is right in front of you... I rather like the fact that it got sorted out so quickly, if you want to call that degenerate, you are lacking discernment in static vs dynamic... To me the input was rather fast and to the point, I do bring in points of religiosity and the cognitive dissonance, because they are very real factors and therefore I do want people to think twice... everyone is entitled to their view... what I find "degenerate" are "political operatives" who try to use these posts to pass of their own political agendas, or create psychological victim responses... To me this "acting out stuff" that has nothing to do with the topic matter at hand, ie. issue of the article, legitimacy of the information, general opinions on the topic in general gets side tracked with all these people who want to impose "moral evaluations" on the quality of commentary, with no concern for degenerating the post into something that has absolutely nothing to do with the main topic... like I said there are certain patterns I have adapted to almost instinctively... unfortunately that doesn't happen in a vacuum... there's more to diplomacy then kissing up and pretending and to be politically correct... which I will have none of... thank you very much... : )

If I lack discernment in a static vs dynamic something, has nothing to do with a bad or misleading post. Lurking on your own post to make quick, passive aggressive responses does nothing helpful for anyone.

...sigh
You posted an article that had NO BASIS on ANY FACT. It isn't speculative, historical, or an interpretation. I do agree it is good that it was quickly remedied, one of the reasons why I enjoy this forum. Taking a few moments to investigate before making a post could have alleviated two pages of nonsense. What is even more unfortunate is now you must feel obligated to defend yourself and attack others. By your words you have further derailed the topic, and it will probably continue, since I, regrettably, replied.

I find the topic very interesting and it probably points towards a "truth". Taking a few moments to check the validity of your own post or at the very least share a link with a disclaimer... something?

If I had the ability to succinctly convey a thought, it could have been done with a single sentence, but would have probably caused greater ill will. So what do we really know of this article? It was a creation of someone, with some kind of agenda ( I imagine it took some time to write and then publish) for money, or misdirection...

I would like to believe this post was made in good faith, but all possibilities are being considered.

Best,
Bodhi

[sigma6]

Ah sorry, exactly which "criticism"???

Well if I would be asked to cite a source when I post something and I wouldn't have it then I would just reply that I don't have it.
duly posted...


Going all the way to accuse others of cognitive dissonance and ordering them to go search when yourself haven't done it
Already responded to...


After all asking for more information around a post could also mean GENUINE INTEREST. Have you thought about that? Would you respond in the same manner if you had accepted that aspect first? Maybe, maybe not, hindsight is 20/20... but I am not going to repost what is already posted above ie.. same question, same answer...



Perhaps in all the real time postings you missed a few posts... maybe double check that...


Indeed I had missed some posts. I still didn't see you in any of them showing any regrets for misguiding and then attacking the forum members and that's just unfortunate.
Then try looking for the posts that are there first, instead of "reading between the lines" of posts that don't exist (as much as you would wish it) i.e. I choose not to join in your subjective evaluations more than that... if someone wants to start a thread on the psychological interpretation of subconscious wish fulfillment I will commit to contributing...


Brave are the men who accept their mistakes and move on,
I would agree... and those would be the posts you missed as pointed out...

[Atlas]

the American Institution of Alternative Archeology (AIAA)
There is no such Institution in America.

The article appeared in World News Daily Report (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smithsonian-admits-to-destruction-of-thousands-of-giant-human-skeletons-in-early-1900s/)


World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.com are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental, except for all references to politicians and/or celebrities, in which case they are based on real people, but still based almost entirely in fiction. http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disclaimer/#sthash.AG528ljW.7NL9S27o.dpuf
The information presented here is a hoax.

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I added [satire] to the title of the thread and moved it to "off-topic".

[sigma6]

If I lack discernment in a static vs dynamic something, has nothing to do with a bad or misleading post. Lurking on your own post to make quick, passive aggressive responses does nothing helpful for anyone. I think you have that complete a** backward this is the thread I started... the lurkers are people who refuse to read the posts and ask the same stupid, non topic matter questions (albeit in slightly different ways... see posts above...) otherwise what exactly is the usefulness of this ???


You posted an article that had NO BASIS on ANY FACT
au contraire, we are not arguing the existence of Giant bones, they are already established as quite real (at least imo) the article that I am referencing was the issue... (try reading the posts? it really will help you...)



I do agree it is good that it was quickly remedied, one of the reasons why I enjoy this forum.
Wonderful, thanks for appreciating that... ; )


Taking a few moments to investigate before making a post could have alleviated two pages of nonsense.
or just avoiding these types of posts altogether, I can't respond to non-existent posts


What is even more unfortunate is now you must feel obligated to defend yourself
Absolutely, I see it as a moral obligation NOT to be misunderstood... or have others twist my meaning...


...and attack others.
can't agree here...



By your words you have further derailed the topic, and it will probably continue, since I, regrettably, replied. most regrettable, can't argue that...


So what do we really know of this article? It was a creation of someone, with some kind of agenda ( I imagine it took some time to write and then publish) for money, or misdirection...
Hmm... ok, I honestly think you have something here... was it really a misdirection? Since in fact it could be true, if we lived in a world where truth was the highest value, so in a strange way... I still like this article, even though it appears to be false, and despite the moralizing and pity party... it has brought this to people's conscious awareness of an important issue (the real suppression of truth)... Call whoever did it what you like, using a form of cheap publicity, and maybe I wouldn't completely agree with this approach (tough call, maybe) but again given the context of a media filled with lies, this article did catch my attention and my imagination...

I think it is a good exercise, granted it was unintended, but I am glad this has got people to look at it, and think about it... the counter propaganda never stops, so why shouldn't we constantly bring to the attention of others, their constant lies too?

I have to admit, ever since I have become aware of how much suppression of these artifacts is going, ruining careers of real scientists and paying handsome salaries to suckups who know they are lying through their teeth (let's not forget that it is being done with our TAX dollars, and this agenda has to be in the billions if count the whole history... so it's a legitimate topic... So yes this article did catch my eye... and I did post it, I still don't necessarily regret it though... (just the non topic stuff weighing it down) Doesn't anybody think this archeological stuff is interesting or more important??? lol...

This only changes the entire interpretation of who and what we are, all the history books, exposes the Matrix of Deception, the Powers that be, how far they go back... does anyone have something to contribute in that dept...??? ':D

[sigma6]

the American Institution of Alternative Archeology (AIAA)
There is no such Institution in America.

The article appeared in World News Daily Report (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smithsonian-admits-to-destruction-of-thousands-of-giant-human-skeletons-in-early-1900s/)


World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.com are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental, except for all references to politicians and/or celebrities, in which case they are based on real people, but still based almost entirely in fiction. http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disclaimer/#sthash.AG528ljW.7NL9S27o.dpuf
The information presented here is a hoax.

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I added [satire] to the title of the thread and moved it to "off-topic".

a little late to the dung fest ... lol...

[DeDukshyn]

I have seen a trend on this forum, a decay of fact checking or impulsive posts over the last year or two. This is unfortunate since it floods the forum with a myriad of posts which dilutes and misdirects... and also lessens the impact on true or relative information to what is currently happening and lessens the ability for members to communicate effectively.
I believe the backlash you are experiencing sigma6, has more to do with this than any kind of personal vendetta against you, but perhaps this has happened before. I do not know, only that this post is misleading. Had it gone unchecked, some people would have taken this at face value believing that this truly occurred. At any rate, this equates to bad investigation (at best).
It is easy to impulsively bite the hook, I've fallen victim to this in the past and learned from making such mistakes...to attack others who begin to question the validity of a post? I think this degenerates the entire process of the forum and likens it closer to something like FaceBook. We can and should do better.

My experiences this last week in two different threads have led to exactly this. Why does it seem that there is trend in Avalon members where passion for truth finding and reporting is replaced with emotional drama and defense of these emotions? When we lose our ability or motivation to freely fact find, dig deeper, and be discerning without bias, then we might as well all go home, because at that point we have become more the problem than the solution.

[sigma6]

I have seen a trend on this forum... ... We can and should do better.

My experiences this last week in two different threads have led to exactly this. Why does it seem that there is trend in Avalon members where passion for truth finding and reporting is replaced with emotional drama and defense of these emotions? When we lose our ability or motivation to freely fact find, dig deeper, and be discerning without bias, then we might as well all go home, because at that point we have become more the problem than the solution.

Agreed, the deeper message is being lost here... I think the questions about the motivation of an article like this (my previous post) is justified, as it points up the questionability and at the same time, it stays on topic about the bigger issue... which still is ... the suppression of truth, honest science, and people who are laying everything on the line to expose the truth... not to mention that we the public are getting screwed over, and are paying millions of dollars to allow that to happen, that is what I think is the issue...

All the rest is ego and cross purpose... and unnecessary...

update: Can anyone speak to the topic matter? If you want to take a moral tac, is this writer justified in trying to highlight a truth using what is most likely a false article? Can anyone speak to issue of suppression? I don't really want to get into the pros and cons of marketing methods... I'd rather focus on the breach of trust of the Smithsonian institute? - that this article does point up... I'm not shooting the messenger, because I don't completely know his/her motivations... But I do think that researchers like Cremo and what they have contributed is terribly understated...

[fractal being]

Then try looking for the posts that are there first, instead of "reading between the lines" of posts that don't exist (as much as you would wish it) i.e. I choose not to join in your subjective evaluations more than that... if someone wants to start a thread on the psychological interpretation of subconscious wish fulfillment I will commit to contributing...


Well I believe it's the first time we interact in this forum, so you don't know me and thus you are forgiven. I see that you have a unique talent in quoting every tiny statement without really addressing any of the points and creating/imagining intentions that are not there, so good luck with chasing windmills... Anyhow I'll be wise now and listen to what my grandma always said: "Never argue with idiots. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"

My apologies to the rest forum members for derailing this thread even though the article is a hoax and I don't see a real topic.

[Matt P]

I think this thread is the perfect example of what the zios and mossad want to happen (where this article came from). Mossad's motto is something to the tune of 'By deception thou shall conduct war.' By taking a topic of truth and injecting lies / disinfo into it, they discredit the truth and sew seeds of distrust and negative discourse and, therefore, cloud the waters and create divisions. This is so old hat and we must rise above it because it's causing us to miss and now probably dismiss what is incredibly important information.

Matt

[I personally disagree this should be reclassified as satire. The original publication is NOT meant as satire in my opinion, it's meant as an attack on truth. I would never call an obvious mossad psy op satire.]

[Zamolxe]

I don't know why the author chose this photo for the article,it discredits what he is writing about. The bone was taken from the Smithonian in the mid thirties and kept hidden until the man that stole the femur died. Why do we have a hokey picture of a guy with a regular shovel and a perfectly clean bone standing there, obviously not taken in the 1930's? Anyway, I think it is important for folks writing about this kind of thing to try to hold up to scrutiny and provide accurate info and photos.

There's a thousand photos out there about these giant bones, what is with all this bizarre commentary, like you all arrived on the planet yesterday?... has no one heard of this before?... I thought this was old news...

The important message is that the truth is being exposed, in the very halls of the people who created the lie in the first place... the liars are being caught and exposed. Just like the Piltdown man, the jig is up, it's ok to pull your head out of the sand, for all the people too afraid to think, that need to see the "proof"

First off this was all self evident logic... but I thought for all the people who perceive "fake courts full of Freemason's as the holy gospel" crowd, this would help them, but cognitive dissonance is obviously alive and well... what other explanation for these bizarre responses???

You should be rejoicing... or are you just looking at this from a creationist point of view? If that is the case your mind is really muddled... and you're going to have to do even more research on that... lol...


peterpam only highlited an obvious pertinent fact, that the photo was absurdly linked to this article, never did he make it obvious if he believes or not that giants existed.
You, on the other hand called this comment "bizzare" and suggested that he "arrived on the planet yesterday".
It seems that you have a very powerful emotional response when people comment against what you post, even if their comment was objective and rational, the fact that it contradicts what you post makes it instantly wrong.

You could have taken in what he said and just agree that the photo can't have anything to do with a femur found in the 1930s, making the article lose some of its credibility.. instead, you went on tilt.

[sigma6]

Then try looking for the posts that are there first, instead of "reading between the lines" of posts that don't exist (as much as you would wish it) i.e. I choose not to join in your subjective evaluations more than that... if someone wants to start a thread on the psychological interpretation of subconscious wish fulfillment I will commit to contributing...


Well I believe it's the first time we interact in this forum, so you don't know me and thus you are forgiven. I see that you have a unique talent in quoting every tiny statement without really addressing any of the points and creating/imagining intentions that are not there, so good luck with chasing windmills... Anyhow I'll be wise now and listen to what my grandma always said: "Never argue with idiots. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"

My apologies to the rest forum members for derailing this thread even though the article is a hoax and I don't see a real topic.

truly heartfelt... I guess the idea that there is an institution that has been misapplying millions of dollars of funds, for the purpose of maintaining false agendas, which in turn consumes millions more in funds in universities teaching more misinformation... and all this the tip of an iceberg... really does pale in comparison to these subjective defenses of triviality... it is so tempting to want to join in... but alas, there is a bigger world out there... real or not, the article does point to something important... I still think that is an important matter of discussion...

Or how naive the human race is for allowing it? no matter how many times it is pointed up, no matter how much times they are beaten over the head with it? (thus the cartoon anvil analogy...) what compels people to obsess about the leaves and not see the forest?

i.e. There is another aspect to all this... when people think that nothing can be done, they engage in what is called "learned helplessness" i.e. they are incapable of making any effort at even attempting to raise themselves out of undesirable situations... but instead do meaningless tasks... a form of stress relief, stress behaviour...

This is also part of the social programming, lest we forget... To my mind, there are just too many higher level issues at stake to allow this sort of thing to bog us down. Is it possible that people might consider maybe trying to will themselves to aspire to something higher?... If there is any "trend" this seem to be more pervasive, and maybe justifiably so... this is a major factor, (as I succumb to the temptation of engaging in the detraction myself...) This is part of the reason why I don't want to get into all the "reasons" why people engage in certain behaviours... it's not a simple topic... besides having absolutely nothing to do with the main topic matter...

That said... I am still open to anyone who might raise themselves to the level of speaking to the issue of the Smithsonian being exposed as the opposite of what it purports to be... ie. scientific, when it is engaging in gross deception... or on the legitimacy of the author using the same blatant model of propaganda to justify getting publicity for his/her message. Which you can't deny... he/she certainly did achieve...

[DeDukshyn]

...

update: Can anyone speak to the topic matter? If you want to take a moral tac, is this writer justified in trying to highlight a truth using what is most likely a false article? Can anyone speak to issue of suppression?

I use the term "you" in this post a lot - I am using it in general and on a soapbox speaking to all ...

The issue does go both directions.

We do have people posting things that they want or feel strongly to be true, where an emotional attachment is tied to the thing being presented; resulting in any questioning of the presentation creating a feeling of attack, in turn resulting in an emotionally fueled defense.

On the other hand, to use your thread as an example, you did seem to post something that you wanted to fit with a theme of yours that the Smithsonian is not trustable or is up to something - this seemed to fit so you grabbed it and posted it as though it were fact without trying to really get to the source article or to verify the lawsuit. You likely had a hidden emotional attachment that didn't want the story to be untrue. If you would have presented the article as more of a "what do you guys think of this?" - you would have sidestepped that attachment and I am sure the truth would have been found and presented more quickly and eloquently.

That said, looking at all the posts that just said "BS" and gave you crap for posting it - none, other than Atlas' had much to offer in the way of putting the debate to rest - before that only resulted in more more infighting and no resolution or motivation to get to the truth. Hence the problem can go two ways, but it is the same problem just in the opposite direction.

We have to understand that the enemy is more inside our minds than "out there" hiding giant bones, and chemtrail secrets. Unless we can see clearly that this phenomenon that we as humans re-create and act out every day, take notice of it, and step away from the emotional reaction / attachment to our strongly held beliefs, we will always be under "their" control -- always. Without being able to prevent your ego from abusing your emotions in order to create more negative emotions within yourself and in others, then their source of energy is secured and their control over humanity is also secured. This is where the shift will occur. Revelations of the truth may be catalysts for this process to some extent, but really, as long as we keep doing this, sustaining the Fall every single waking day, then our controllers are not too worried about anything else.

That is the way I see it. Believe nothing and consider everything.

[Zamolxe]

I think this thread is the perfect example of what the zios and mossad want to happen (where this article came from). Mossad's motto is something to the tune of 'By deception thou shall conduct war.' By taking a topic of truth and injecting lies / disinfo into it, they discredit the truth and sew seeds of distrust and negative discourse and, therefore, cloud the waters and create divisions. This is so old hat and we must rise above it because it's causing us to miss and now probably dismiss what is incredibly important information.

Matt

[I personally disagree this should be reclassified as satire. The original publication is NOT meant as satire in my opinion, it's meant as an attack on truth. I would never call an obvious mossad psy op satire.]


Exactly!
These articles won't make US (alternative community) believe even more that giants existed. We already believe that.

On the other hand, a logical and rational person that doesn't know anything about suppressed history will read this article, see the photo, see the other 'hoax'-signs, realize it's a fake and will never believe anything after that moment that he hears about giants.

When you try to point these obvious dumb articles to anyone that posts them on avalon, they immediatly go defensive and associate you with a non believer.

For example, someone posts an article claiming that santa claus was involved in 9-11. if you tell them that the article is absolute garbage... they'll go after you saying "oh, so you believe 9-11 was not a false flag?"

Users here go over their head protecting their posts, even if it may be clear as daylight that they are wrong.

[sigma6]

I don't know why the author chose this photo for the article,it discredits what he is writing about. The bone was taken from the Smithonian in the mid thirties and kept hidden until the man that stole the femur died. Why do we have a hokey picture of a guy with a regular shovel and a perfectly clean bone standing there, obviously not taken in the 1930's? Anyway, I think it is important for folks writing about this kind of thing to try to hold up to scrutiny and provide accurate info and photos.

There's a thousand photos out there about these giant bones, what is with all this bizarre commentary, like you all arrived on the planet yesterday?... has no one heard of this before?... I thought this was old news...

The important message is that the truth is being exposed, in the very halls of the people who created the lie in the first place... the liars are being caught and exposed. Just like the Piltdown man, the jig is up, it's ok to pull your head out of the sand, for all the people too afraid to think, that need to see the "proof"

First off this was all self evident logic... but I thought for all the people who perceive "fake courts full of Freemason's as the holy gospel" crowd, this would help them, but cognitive dissonance is obviously alive and well... what other explanation for these bizarre responses???

You should be rejoicing... or are you just looking at this from a creationist point of view? If that is the case your mind is really muddled... and you're going to have to do even more research on that... lol...


peterpam only highlited an obvious pertinent fact, that the photo was absurdly linked to this article, never did he make it obvious if he believes or not that giants existed.
You, on the other hand called this comment "bizzare" and suggested that he "arrived on the planet yesterday".
It seems that you have a very powerful emotional response when people comment against what you post, even if their comment was objective and rational, the fact that it contradicts what you post makes it instantly wrong.

You could have taken in what he said and just agree that the photo can't have anything to do with a femur found in the 1930s, making the article lose some of its credibility.. instead, you went on tilt.

The suggestion was obvious, the article never suggested that the photo was of a guy from the 1930's???? So where did that come from? Thus his assumption (misperception) created the argument, and thus made it bizarre... now your suggestion that it is rational is assumptive, because he created a false rationale that the article suggested this is a picture from the 1930's?... point is anyone can play this game, notice how your desire to comment on your personal (subjective evaluation) is greater then any response to the topic... So of course I take issue with it... you should exercise your logic to the totality of the article not the micro portion of someones unfounded assumption...

Thread is still open to anyone who has anything related maybe to the article itself... perhaps we can clarify what it is saying, then discuss what is legitimate and what is false, obviously there is much weight the court case doesn't have any reference... but oddly no one has commented, with rare exception of mpennery and a couple others on the topic of the Smithsonian! or the suppression of archeological artifacts...

[sigma6]

I think this thread is the perfect example of what the zios and mossad want to happen (where this article came from). Mossad's motto is something to the tune of 'By deception thou shall conduct war.' By taking a topic of truth and injecting lies / disinfo into it, they discredit the truth and sew seeds of distrust and negative discourse and, therefore, cloud the waters and create divisions. This is so old hat and we must rise above it because it's causing us to miss and now probably dismiss what is incredibly important information.

Matt

[I personally disagree this should be reclassified as satire. The original publication is NOT meant as satire in my opinion, it's meant as an attack on truth. I would never call an obvious mossad psy op satire.]


Exactly!
These articles won't make US (alternative community) believe even more that giants existed. We already believe that.

On the other hand, a logical and rational person that doesn't know anything about suppressed history will read this article, see the photo, see the other 'hoax'-signs, realize it's a fake and will never believe anything after that moment that he hears about giants.

When you try to point these obvious dumb articles to anyone that posts them on avalon, they immediatly go defensive and associate you with a non believer.

For example, someone posts an article claiming that santa claus was involved in 9-11. if you tell them that the article is absolute garbage... they'll go after you saying "oh, so you believe 9-11 was not a false flag?"

Users here go over their head protecting their posts, even if it may be clear as daylight that they are wrong.

But our discussion of it will, awesome... now that is more to the spirit I speak of .... and I agree there is an issue there... But this very same issue was started by some individual quite some time back who came forward to "claim" that he had faked a bunch of photos on the internet of Giant bones... And of course that made it to the mainstream, and surely confused the issue for millions... but these types of posts also have a double whammy effect, because it also brought a lot of attention to the whole issue of Giants in general... so was it all bad? not completely...

And this is what I think we should be discussing certainly, the pros and cons of such articles... I commend you... for highlighting that exact issue, same for mpennery... I wouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater... I have a strange feeling we might not be the only ones obsessing on this issue, I think there may be high emotions on many sides of this issue. For me it was the aspect of exposing the Smithsonian...

None-the-less this very deception is why we are all here... not the deception of the article writer alone, but what he is pointing up... Actually the more I think about it, the more I think he may very well have hit on a viral subject matter... his "deception" being part of it... viral marketing is still cutting edge, still not a formula, and there are a lot of people investing a lot of energy and research into this topic as well... that is a whole a topic in itself (and a worthy one if you are into that...)

[Atlas]

[I personally disagree this should be reclassified as satire. The original publication is NOT meant as satire in my opinion, it's meant as an attack on truth. I would never call an obvious mossad psy op satire.]
I changed the title of this thread from: "[satire] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s"

to: "[hoax] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s"

[ghostrider]

food for thought , the bible talks of giants walking the earth , an entire civilization/city of giants that made us the size of grasshoppers - book of Numbers 13 verse 33 Genesis 6:4 ... and there is the story of Goliath , certainly there is corruption woven into the translations of the bible but , hidden truths as well ... History is replete with Giants being on Earth , and for what's worth the ET's gave information about the old Lyrians that came here 389,000 years ago were giants 12 ft up to 35 ft tall ... some call them Nephilim or , Seraphoids , as some had wings etc ... from the bible , to history , to archeology , to ET information we get a theme , very mysterious TAll humanoids once walked on earth , great lengths have been taken to conceal this and shroud it in mystery ... we wonder how large stones were used to build ancient sites but never factor in a race of people who were 35 ft tall could do the work with few problems ... it is said in ancient Earth past , the air content was higher making everything bigger , plants , animals/dinosaurs , and people ... it's up to the individual to work through this and find their own truth ...

[sigma6]

[I personally disagree this should be reclassified as satire. The original publication is NOT meant as satire in my opinion, it's meant as an attack on truth. I would never call an obvious mossad psy op satire.]
I changed the title of this thread from: "[satire] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s"

to: "[hoax] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s"

Back from a refreshing hot soak... and not to be disappointed... lol
Not to detract from the authorship, but I still say you're missing the bigger issue at stake... you are still caught in the 2 dimensional thinking of the main stream... (i.e. everything is black or white)

I think this guy is onto something... he has now single handedly focused on an issue, that I think needs exposing... and he did this without a huge expense account, troll money from the government (hint, hint ;) in fact no paid marketing whatsoever...

I still think the topic at hand is a worthy discussion... You have to admit you couldn't have even thought this up... so in that regard I think it's brilliant... Or maybe I should ask (for the benefit of newbies, etc...) Is there anyone here who has NOT heard about this particular issue with the Smithsonian? i.e. having a history that does in fact go back over a hundred years of showing up and using their "authority" to take all manner of archeological artifacts, that never get seen by the public again... ???

Or is Squirrel dude (johnny come lately to the dung fest ;D ...shame...) trying to use the confusion to give the "impression"

that the Smithsonian isn't in fact guilty of these crimes?...

Can you imagine if YOU were running a museum and faking artifacts or withholding others based on "orders" from a higher authority? Where are all the concerned politically correct people worried about these type of criminal offenses???

Shouldn't this be affecting someone's sensitivities? ...In any event... this is something very much worth pointing up in my opinion... I am still glad I posted it... I still think there is something significant here... again I don't think the author could have anticipated the viral effect, and I may or may not agree with the tactic, but no one is arguing that it looks in probability, he faked it, because very seldom can it be done predictably, but there it is...

Now compare to what his post is doing... claiming because the the author used questionable means, granted, that we should therefore all agree the Smithsonian is innocent... see the difference? This is worth pointing out...

(btw did you change your name or something buares??? was that last handle branding you too hot! O.o?)

[Atlas]

May I suggest you return to your research sigma6 ?




go do some research...

[sigma6]

May I suggest you return to your research sigma6 ?




go do some research...
The research is right here... you're still missing it... are you denying the Smithsonian has been obtaining artifacts and hiding them from the public?...

it's not a hard question... I am curious to hear what you believe... a simple yes/no will suffice... buares,

just for clarifications sake... and it will only be accepted as your opinion...

[sigma6]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/720497/posts
here's 60 seconds of "research" ;D

Holocaust of Giants:
The Great Smithsonian Cover-up
Noted Native American author and professor of law
emeritus, Vine Deloria, writes in a personal
communication:

It's probably better that so few of the ruins and
remains were tied in with the Smithsonian because they
give good reason to believe the ending of the Indiana
Jones movie-a great warehouse where the real secrets
of earth history are buried.

Modern day archaeology and anthropology have nearly
sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly
interpreting the North American past as devoid of
anything unusual in the way of great cultures
characterized by a people of unusual demeanor. The
great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the
nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a
one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have
been spirited. This door and the contents of its vault
are virtually sealed off to any but government
officials. Among these bones may lay answers not even
sought by these officials concerning the deep past.

The first hint we had about the possible existence of
an actual race of tall, strong, and intellectually
sophisticated people, was in researching old township
and county records. Many of these were quoting from
old diaries and letters that were combined, for
posterity, in the 1800s from diaries going back to the
1700s. Says Vine in this understanding:

Some of these old county and regional history books
contain real gems because the people were not
subjected to a rigid indoctrination about evolution
and were astonished about what they found and honestly
reported it.


The title pages of the early county and pioneer
history books often included phrases like "CAREFULLY
WRITTEN AND COMPILED" and "LEST WE FORGET."...

you can read more at the link...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/720497/posts

[Atlas]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/720497/posts
here's 60 seconds of "research" ;D
Here, just for you ;D

How David Childress Created the Myth of a Smithsonian Archaeological Conspiracy (http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/how-david-childress-created-the-myth-of-a-smithsonian-archaeological-conspiracy)

I admit to being somewhat mystified by claims of a Smithsonian conspiracy to suppress the truth about American history. Why the Smithsonian? Why not the Metropolitan Museum of Art? Why not the British Museum, which, arguably, was more influential for most of its existence? It must be because the Smithsonian is a charitable trust administered by the United States government and therefore connected to the Lovecraftian evil that is the U.S. government.

Let’s stipulate that the Smithsonian cover-up could not have begun prior to 1846, when the museum first opened its doors. Prior to this period, the U.S. government, its agents, and its officials openly advocated the existence of a lost white race of Mound Builders, Welsh Indians, and other such topics now consigned to fringe history. The conspiracy was also of fairly poor quality since the Smithsonian’s own official publications recorded the existence of the “paleo-Hebrew” Bat Creek Stone, as well as various “giant” skeletons, and attributed American mounds to a lost white race for several decades, until 1894. The conspiracy somehow not only “allowed” the Bat Creek Stone to be found and published, but also allowed it to go on public display, where it remains to this day. The deep origins of the alleged conspiracy are not hard to see: In 1894 Cyrus Thomas published a report concluding that America’s ancient mounds were of Native American origin, disappointing many who believed in various and sundry lost white races, and Thomas was dismissive of alleged European or Near Eastern artifacts supposedly found in America thereafter. But few attributed this to a conspiracy at the time since Thomas’s position was so well-known, and his evidence transparently published.

I frankly have had a hard time tracing the origins of the conspiracy theory that holds that the Smithsonian has been collecting anomalous ancient artifacts and shipping them off to Washington to be destroyed or otherwise purposely lost. This conspiracy theory surrounding the Smithsonian is so disorganized that it failed even to make it into Peter Knight’s 2003 Conspiracy Theories in American History: An Encyclopedia. But I have been able to pinpoint an origin point through a literature review and the process of elimination.

We know that the conspiracy theory did not exist in 1909, when the Arizona Gazette published its famous hoax that had Smithsonian officials openly and publicly discussing excavating a Tibetan-style tomb in the Grand Canyon. Had the Smithsonian conspiracy been a common belief back then, the hoax could not have been written. Similarly, there is no hint of a Smithsonian conspiracy in the 1932 book Death Valley Men by Bourke Lee. In that book, Lee describes a conversation with Death Valley residents who claimed to have found an underground city of caves filled with gold statues and gold-clad mummies, all lit by natural gas lamps. (This seems to be derivative of Frederick Spencer Oliver’s Dweller on Two Planets and works inspired by it, which posited a similar cave city beneath Mt. Shasta, as well as the highly similar pulp fiction stories of the era such as H. Rider Haggard’s archaeological thrillers and Edgar Rice Burroughs’s hollow-earth Pellucidar novels.) The men told Lee that they attempted to show the treasure to agents of the Smithsonian Institution, but that the Smithsonian refused to listen to them when a friend stole the treasure and a freak rainstorm, they claimed, rearranged the entire landscape of Death Valley, hiding the cave forever. Again, if the modern conspiracy theory existed at this point, we’d expect to read that the Smithsonian had actively sealed the cave and seized the treasure.

Therefore, we can establish that the conspiracy theory—and the conspiracy itself!—can’t predate 1932. So when did it start? The first rumblings that I can find emerge with the growth of creationism in the 1970s and 1980s, in which creationist authors begin to complain that the Smithsonian was unfairly conspiring to promote evolutionary theory. But it was not a widespread belief. In a review of “ancient mystery” books from the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, I can’t find an assertion of Smithsonian conspiracies. Frederick J. Pohl found an 1892 Smithsonian publication (hiding through publicizing!) about a few hollowed-out wood coffins from Alabama that were sent to the Smithsonian, but when he enquired in 1950 as to their whereabouts the Smithsonian said that they had been received but were somehow lost. He did not consider this a conspiracy but rather of, in his words, “neglect.” The coffins, later determined to be troughs, were eventually found in a warehouse. It was the change in designation upon identification that led to the confusion over their whereabouts.

Robert Temple—who believes that the CIA was in fact conspiring against him—makes no mention of a Smithsonian conspiracy in The Sirius Mystery (1976), nor does Erich von Däniken discuss one in Chariots of the Gods (1969) or its immediate sequels. Alan Landsburg failed to mention it in his ancient mystery books of the 1970s.

In fringe books where we should expect to see a discussion of the Smithsonian conspiracy—those dealing with American prehistory—it is also absent. In 1950 S. N. Hagen praised the Smithsonian while defending the Kensington Rune Stone, and actually demanded that the Smithsonian take custody of the relic! Charles Michael Boland’s They All Discovered America (1961), written just before the acceptance of the L’anse-aux-Meadows site, when Viking excursions to America were not yet confirmed, fails to mention any Smithsonian conspiracy across hundreds of alleged pre-Columbian voyagers and sites he catalogs. Ivan Van Sertima’s They Came Before Columbus (1976) actually mentions the Smithsonian four times, but he praises them for publishing the “facts” about what he wrongly considered to be African skeletal remains found in pre-Columbian contexts in publications dating from as recently as 1975. Instead, he preferred to see the National Geographic Society and academia in general as engaging in an unofficial “conspiracy of silence.” Even David Childress himself—the man who first claimed a Smithsonian conspiracy to “suppress” the truth about the Grand Canyon—makes no mention of a Smithsonian conspiracy in any of his books published prior to 1993 that I have been able to review, but rather cites the Smithsonian as openly providing information about mysterious or diffusionist objects in their collections!

To put a cap on this: Stephen Williams’s Fantastic Archaeology, published in 1991 and covering virtually every fringe archaeology claim made from 1492 to 1991, has exactly zero mentions of a Smithsonian conspiracy to destroy or suppress artifacts, even while chronicling the Smithsonian’s early advocacy of lost white race theories. Williams does note, however, a growing discontent with the Smithsonian after 1894 and Cyrus Thomas’s Mound Builder report, as time and again Smithsonian scholars investigated fringe claims and published results declaring alleged artifacts ranging from the Tucson Lead Artifacts to the Kensington Rune Stone to be less than their promoters claimed them to be. But there was no claim of an organized conspiracy, only vague charges that “academia” in general was “close-minded.”

So what changed?

I think that Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) began the process of laying the groundwork for anti-Smithsonian conspiracies, not because it was so convincing but because of who watched it. At the end of the film, the Ark of the Covenant is locked away in a government warehouse, never to be seen again. David Childress cites this scene in his very first Smithsonian conspiracy piece, and he identifies himself as a “real-life Indiana Jones.”

In the early 1990s, David Childress seems to have kicked off the anti-Smithsonian conspiracy theme with his question of whether the Smithsonian was so intent on denying the existence of Tibetans (whom he misreads as Egyptians) in the Grand Canyon that they erased all evidence of the (hoax) 1909 expedition to the Grand Canyon:


Is the idea that ancient Egyptians came to the Arizona area in the ancient past so objectionable and preposterous that is must be covered up? Perhaps the Smithsonian Institution is more interested in maintaining the status quo than rocking the boat with astonishing new discoveries that totally overturn the previously accepted academic teachings.

He termed the alleged suppression of evidence “Smithsoniangate” in World Explorer vo1. 1, no. 3 (1993, reprinted and recycled in several later volumes and distributed online via Nexus magazine and Keeley.net), where he cites Raiders as a touchstone before abstracting from it to a “real” conspiracy:


To those who investigate allegations of archaeological cover-ups, there are disturbing indications that the most important archaeological institute in the United States, the Smithsonian Institute, an independent federal agency, has been actively suppressing some of the most interesting and important archaeological discoveries made in the Americas.

He provides no solid evidence of his claims but instead rehearses the Cyrus Thomas tale and sees in Thomas’s scientific conclusion a conspiracy to suppress evidence of white travelers to America. (This was during the period when, under the influence of the Lemurian Fellowship and James Churchward, Childress advocated the existence of an ancient white master race that ruled the world and enslaved black and brown peoples.) Specifically, he accuses Thomas’s boss, John Wesley Powell, of inaugurating the conspiracy in 1881 to hide evidence of a lost white race. Childress provides as “evidence” of an ongoing conspiracy an anonymous secondhand report from an unnamed “well-known historical researcher” (probably another fringe writer) that the researcher had heard from an ex-Smithsonian employee that someone else had told him that the Institution had dumped a barge full of pre-Columbian artifacts (!) into the sea to prevent them from breaking Thomas’s pro-Native American paradigm. All this, of course, while Childress himself admitted in earlier work that the Smithsonian openly allowed research on allegedly non-Native objects like the Bat Creek Stone and continued publishing the findings of diffusionist anthropologists and archaeologists.

Childress cited Pohl’s 1950 inquiry into the Alabama wooden troughs as proof of a conspiracy because the Smithsonian reported in 1992 that these troughs could not be viewed because they were housed in an asbestos-contaminated warehouse. Childress called this suppression, and later writers, mostly on the internet, misunderstanding the situation, turned these into European stone coffins and claimed that the Smithsonian had intentionally destroyed them.

Childress further collected various secondhand reports, which he did not attempt to verify, of the Smithsonian collecting artifacts that then disappeared. One was a story from Ivan T. Sanderson reporting a letter he received from an engineer who claimed to have found giant skulls two decades earlier that the Smithsonian collected and made disappear. (The skull measurements provided are only slightly above average; Childress misunderstood how the skulls were measured.) Diffusionist John H. Tierney, Childress said, accused the Smithsonian of a disinformation campaign to discredit a set of 32,000 ceramic statues that included images of humans having sex with dinosaurs which were supposedly found in an ancient Mexican context. Further testing determined the figures were modern fakes.

He concluded his article with “proof” that the Smithsonian was covering up the 1909 “discovery” of an “Egyptian” tomb in the Grand Canyon—a story derived from an Arizona Gazette newspaper hoax of April 5, 1909. Childress, who introduced the mistake repeated by Scott Wolter that the newspaper was called the “Phoenix Gazette,” cites as “evidence” of a cover up two facts: (a) a staff archaeologist he spoke with by phone denied the Smithsonian had any Egyptian artifacts from a New World context and (b) the Smithsonian’s Board or Regents conducts meetings that are not open to the public. Sadly, every time the Smithsonian truthfully denied fringe claims, it only served as more proof for conspiracy theorists that something was being covered up.

Childress’s article was picked up by David Icke for The Biggest Secret (1993), which added aliens to the mix.

The story might have ended there since Childress’s sum total of “evidence” for a conspiracy was (a) official publications that publicized the allegedly suppressed material, (b) two missing wooden troughs that were not actually missing, (c) secondhand accounts of decades-old memories, (d) fake statues of dinosaurs having sex with humans, and (e) a newspaper hoax. But Childress had the good fortune to have his work widely distributed right at the time when perpetual presidential candidate Pat Buchanan decided to politicize the Smithsonian and accuse it of engaging in a conspiracy to denigrate American history.

In 1994, the Smithsonian announced plans to put the Enola Gay’s fuselage on display as part of an effort to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima in 1995. Critics immediately complained that the exhibit focused too heavily on the Japanese who died in the bombing rather than on the military rationale for the use of the atom bomb. On November 6, 1994—only a year after Childress created his “Smithsoniangate,” Buchanan wrote in his syndicated newspaper column that the Smithsonian was engaged in


a sleepless campaign to inculcate in American youth a revulsion toward America’s past. Ultimate goal: Breed a generation of Americans who accept the Left’s indictment of our country, who refuse to defend her, and who decline to appeal the death sentence that Leftists the world over long ago pronounced on the United States and Western civilization.

He said that the Smithsonian was “toying with suicide” by working to destroy traditional manly American values (such as viewing fighter pilots as “knights of the air”), and for valuing non-Americans (non-white peoples unstated but implied) over Americans. In this he was joined by fellow newspaper columnist John Leo, a longtime critic of cultural “pollution,” who claimed to have discovered dozens of examples of liberal bias, anti-Americanism, and negativity in Smithsonian exhibits. Rush Limbaugh picked up the story, and the right wing media turned the Smithsonian’s alleged anti-Americanism into a cause, over the shocked objections of professional historians and museum curators.

This story is told more fully in the 1996 edited volume The History Wars: The Enola Gay and Other Battles for America’s Past by Edward T. Linenthal and Tom Engelhardt.

The political furor over alleged bias at the Smithsonian lasted for a year and led to House Speaker Newt Gingrich appointing the conservative Rep. Sam Johnson (R-Tex.) to the Smithsonian Board of Regents to provide ideological “balance.” Johnson declared: “We’ve got to get patriotism back in the Smithsonian. We want the Smithsonian to reflect real America and not something that a historian dreamed up.” The politicization of the Smithsonian was complete, and the very real and significant damage done to the Smithsonian’s reputation opened the door to conspiracy theories.

While there is no direct connection between Childress’s claims and those of the right-wing politicians and media, the coincidence of timing served to reinforce Childress’s insinuations. Readers were subjected to multiple streams of information all telling them that the Smithsonian was engaged in a conspiracy to distort or fabricate American history. If politicians were certain that the Smithsonian was placing the (foreign) Japanese above traditional (read: white) Americans, then surely it was plausible that they had also been promoting the interests of Native Americans by denying or destroying the true pre-Columbian (read: white) heritage of America. The recent passage of the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act and the subsequent groundbreaking for the National Museum of the American Indian reinforced the idea that the Smithsonian and the U.S. government were conspiring to bury the “truth” by emptying museum vaults and literally burying unwelcome artifacts in the ground in service of pro-Native American (and thus implicitly anti-white) propaganda. Many protested plans to repatriate some of the 14,500 Native American skeletons in the Smithsonian collection, and even observers favorable to the Smithsonian criticized the new American Indian museum for favoring subjective viewpoints and myth over documented history and fact.

In this environment, extreme conservatives had come to see the Smithsonian as an enemy, and this let creationists move from merely accusing the Smithsonian of pro-evolution propaganda to insinuating an outright conspiracy to suppress and destroy evidence of antediluvian giants (Nephilim) as well as evidence of Lost Tribes of Israel in America. However, were we would expect to see this discussed, in Charles DeLoach’s Giants: A Reference Guide from History, the Bible, and Recorded Legend (1995), the most famous creationist text on the subject, the conspiracy is absent; it had not yet filtered from Childress to creationism. Similarly, Graham Hancock’s attempt to imagine a global white master race in Fingerprints of the Gods (1995; check the book: he calls them “white” many, many times) makes no mention of a Smithsonian conspiracy, even though Hancock would eventually accuse NASA of one. In fact, in 2005’s Underworld Hancock praised the Smithsonian, as Ivan Van Sertima had before him, for actively investigating diffusionism, albeit from Japan rather than Europe.

Instead, the conspiracy theory percolated on the internet where David Childress’s 1993 article circulated widely, reproduced thousands of times. Ross Hamilton upped the ante in 2001 with his online article “Holocaust of Giants: The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up,” which as of today is not currently online at its original location (the server may be down). He offered not a lick of evidence for a conspiracy but instead implied one by listing publicly available Smithsonian documents referencing giants and then asking why the bones were accessible only to “government officials.” He did even less research than Childress into the Smithsonian and instead followed the bizarre notion that the conspiracy somehow was compelled to make publicly available descriptions and information about the bones they were supposedly charged with finding and destroying! Vine Deloria told Hamilton that he had come to believe that Raiders of the Lost Ark was an accurate depiction of Smithsonian policies. This was less a confirmation that giants existed than a reflection of the recently-passed controversy over Republican efforts aimed at getting the Smithsonian to change curatorial practices to downplay non-American and Native views.

Thanks to repetition across the internet, the Great Smithsonian Conspiracy slowly entered the mainstream of the alternative history movement. Alternative history luminaries like the Mormon hyper-diffusionist Wayne May and the Neo-Nazi convicted sex offender Frank Joseph (Frank Collin) on the fringe history side and L. A. Marzulli on the creationist and/or Nephilim side relentlessly promoted the idea that the Smithsonian was actively suppressing the truth, though they disagreed as to what truth was supposedly being suppressed. May and Joseph promoted the idea in the pages of Ancient American magazine where the idea would receive vocal and vociferous support from none other than Scott F. Wolter, who blasted the Smithsonian in its pages. Wolter carried over this distrust of the Smithsonian into America Unearthed, where he asserts the reality of a cover-up that did not exist before David Childress invented it out of half-truths, rumors, and lies.

The fact is that before Childress’s 1993 article there was no claim of a Smithsonian conspiracy, even in places where we would expect to see evidence of such a belief. As we end 2013, we can take a moment to curse Childress on the twentieth anniversary of his creation of a modern myth.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/how-david-childress-created-the-myth-of-a-smithsonian-archaeological-conspiracy

[sigma6]

I don't think Childress was born in the late 1800's but I haven't done the specific research... LOL...

oh, and btw... if I wanted to change my avatar name... say to something like Galacticus... or something "cool sounding" like that, who would I go to? O.o?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

We need a physical skeleton for proof. Kinda like sasquatch. I do believe intuitively that both have merit, but proof we have yet to acquire. What i find Most strange is all the old newspaper articles about these farmers finding giant skeletons in early 1900s because there have been many in different states. Lovelock cave is a start i guess. Were these news stories fabricated to sell papers? did they become some sort of fake news trend citing the names and locations of small town farmers? I believe there is merit to this phenomena, not all of it is easily explained away. Thiis article doesn't prove anything either way so lets chill and try to get along. None of us are actually as smart as we think we are (maybe carmody lol), and usually we're all more full of **** than we'd like to admit as well, myself included. lets not take ourselves so serious all the time! love ya guys and gals

[DeDukshyn]

I don't think Childress was born in the late 1800's but I haven't done the specific research... LOL...

oh, and btw... if I wanted to change my avatar name... say to something like Galaticus... or something "cool sounding" like that, who would I go to? O.o?

Ooh, "Galaticus" sounds cool - like a Roman space pilot ... I believe Paul could help you with that.

[Pam]

I don't know why the author chose this photo for the article,it discredits what he is writing about. The bone was taken from the Smithonian in the mid thirties and kept hidden until the man that stole the femur died. Why do we have a hokey picture of a guy with a regular shovel and a perfectly clean bone standing there, obviously not taken in the 1930's? Anyway, I think it is important for folks writing about this kind of thing to try to hold up to scrutiny and provide accurate info and photos.

There's a thousand photos out there about these giant bones, what is with all this bizarre commentary, like you all arrived on the planet yesterday?... has no one heard of this before?... I thought this was old news...

The important message is that the truth is being exposed, in the very halls of the people who created the lie in the first place... the liars are being caught and exposed. Just like the Piltdown man, the jig is up, it's ok to pull your head out of the sand, for all the people too afraid to think, that need to see the "proof"

First off this was all self evident logic... but I thought for all the people who perceive "fake courts full of Freemason's as the holy gospel" crowd, this would help them, but cognitive dissonance is obviously alive and well... what other explanation for these bizarre responses???

You should be rejoicing... or are you just looking at this from a creationist point of view? If that is the case your mind is really muddled... and you're going to have to do even more research on that... lol...


Sigma6, my questioning the appropriateness of the photo that was used in the photo was in no way stating that I don't believe what is being stated. I haven't read anything here that states anyone is invested in the missing link theory as you stated. I don't know why you would call it bizarre commentary. One of the most valuable things that I have learned on PA is to look at information with a discerning eye. If the author is careless in one area, might there be more inaccuracies? We are merely asking questions and making observations,sloppy reporting of true facts or truth combined with inaccuracies may do more harm than good in the long run.

[sigma6]

I don't think Childress was born in the late 1800's but I haven't done the specific research... LOL...

oh, and btw... if I wanted to change my avatar name... say to something like Galaticus... or something "cool sounding" like that, who would I go to? O.o?

Ooh, "Galaticus" sounds cool - like a Roman space pilot ... I believe Paul could help you with that.

Awesome, I never thought of the Roman space pilot angle... and who knows, it might really help me bolster my flagging self image.... LOL!

[ThePythonicCow]

One of the more reliable ways by which the bastards and their minions bury important stories in a heap of dung is to publish stories that are a mix of (1) legitimate revelation of suppressed information with (2) a dollop of misinformation.

The resulting feeding frenzy by truth seekers and disinformation debunkers adds to the height of the dung pile and its odoriferous qualities, repelling almost anyone who does not already have a well formed opinion on the matter.

[Bill Ryan]

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Folks...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NExwpbX-6qw/To5161lJZXI/AAAAAAAAAg0/vx6t3vwT9Bw/s400/images-16.jpeg

OK, calm down.

~~~

I'm personally very interested in this topic. In my opinion — and I may be one of the few people who's read Michael Cremo's FORBIDDEN ARCHEOLOGY (http://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Archeology-Hidden-History-Human/dp/0892132949) from cover to cover (all 914 pages of it) — it's certain that the Smithsonian (and many other organizations in many countries) have hidden, or deliberately lost, a great deal of anomalous evidence that shows that our history is not quite what we are told it is.

My friend Atlas was right (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77733-hoax-Smithsonian-Admits-Destroying-Thousands-Of-Giant-Human-Skeletons-In-Early-1900---s&p=909554&viewfull=1#post909554): the story was a hoax (or a satire — take your pick). But the underlying topic is serious and real.

Here's just one photo of a totally real giant, published in STRAND magazine in 1895:

http://projectavalon.net/photo_of_Giant_Strand_magazine_1895.gif

Where is it now? Good question. It's completely disappeared.

I'm certainly willing to forgive sigma6 for getting this wrong (i.e. the Supreme Court nonsense; such a thing would never happen). But


let's not be too hard on him, because the core story is real; and
@ sigma6, put your gun DOWN. You insult any of the mods, and you insult me.


http://projectavalon.net/True_Grit.jpg

Seriously: Don't be a hothead. Keep your cool when you make a mistake — we all get things wrong sometimes, and satirical internet sites don't help — and you will be well respected for that.

I'd suggest that the thread continues..... on the topic of the many anomalous skeletons which HAVE disappeared. Thousands? Read Forbidden Archeology. It's possible.

:focus:

[Koyaanisqatsi]

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum1/index.php?topic=463.15

how about this timeline of events?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Keep in mind, some of these humans seem to show some physical traits of acromegaly to me, though not all. Certainly this could explain the size of some of these, theoretically all, of these tall tall humans

[Koyaanisqatsi]

My concern with the legitimacy of the Strand mag giant lies in the fact that the infamous Cardiff giant hoax took place more than 25 before this giant in the strand photo, and the likeness of the two is remarkable to me. very similar body positioning indeed. Perhaps someone in Europe learned of the Cardiff hoax and made a copycat hoax of sorts? Im currently very skeptical of the image provided of the strand giant for that reason. Bill is right we all get things wrong sometimes, perhaps even him. Goodness knows im wrong often and may be wrong on this but i dont currently think so...

[sheme]

Quote from the link below...

The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up

Has there been a giant cover-up? Why aren't there public displays of gigantic Native American skeletons at natural history museums?

The skeletons of some Mound Builders are certainly on display. There is a wonderful exhibit, for example, at the Aztalan State Park where one may see the skeleton of a "Princess of Aztalan" in the museum.
But the skeletons placed on display are normal-sized, and according to some sources, the skeletons of giants have been covered up.

Specifically, the Smithsonian Institution has been accused of making a deliberate effort to hide the "telling of the bones" and to keep the giant skeletons locked away.

In the words of Vine Deloria, a Native American author and professor of law:
"Modern day archaeology and anthropology have nearly sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly interpreting the North American past as devoid of anything unusual in the way of great cultures characterized by a people of unusual demeanor. The great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have been spirited. This door and the contents of its vault are virtually sealed off to anyone, but government officials. Among these bones may lay answers not even sought by these officials concerning the deep past."

http://www.sott.net/article/256712-A-giant-mystery-18-strange-giant-skeletons-found-in-Wisconsin-Sons-of-god-Men-of-renown

Perhaps this stimulated the OP

Lots of refs at the bottom of the page.

[Tangri]

One of the more reliable ways by which the bastards and their minions bury important stories in a heap of dung is to publish stories that are a mix of (1) legitimate revelation of suppressed information with (2) a dollop of misinformation.

The resulting feeding frenzy by truth seekers and disinformation debunkers adds to the height of the dung pile and its odoriferous qualities, repelling almost anyone who does not already have a well formed opinion on the matter.

"legitimate revelation of suppressed information with (2) a dollop of misinformation" is necessary for future plausible deniability. You need to know the human nature(in whole spectrum) to understand it's application.
Human nature is naive in it's power. They can be obsessed, frustrated (depression, aggression can cause scapegoat- predator dilemma. It is very complicated to analyze and estimate the outcome's percentage, then necessary intervene would be more drastic, they try to go step by step to tell the story with that reason. People are not ready to absorb new things even when they saw in the sci-fic movies.

I can tell you truth as a story ,rest depends on you, You can laugh it, get on it angry or bored Or you can filter it, but when you hear the rest of it in another story your acceptance is not going to be same as the first time.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Atlas, I was reading through the beginning of the article you posted and it mentioned several things as if they have already been discredited, when I don't believe that they have.

For example the Bat Creek stone having Hebrew writing on it, and there being "Welsh Indians." The Bat Creek stone was originally thought to be a Cherokee script, but of course the Cherokee themselves didn't have a script until one was invented for them after Europeans arrived. The script was later studied by Cyrus Gordon, a respected linguist, and he was the one who popularized the theory that this was a Hebrew script. The letters clearly match with the Hebrew alphabet, even form a comprehensible statement, and Gordon himself firmly believed it was evidence of a tribe of Hebrews reaching North America somewhere around 100 to 200 AD, after they had been expelled from Judea by Rome, if you remember this part of history, and the Jews were dispersed to many far away lands.

As far as Welsh Indians, there are many ancient references to the idea that a Welsh prince left Wales with settlers aimed at establishing a colony far to the West, somewhere around the 1100s AD (still after the Vikings had already found North America, by the way). Many of the first English colonists to land in North America knew this story and took it seriously, which is why so many people were looking for "Welsh Indians."

Here's an interesting (and true) story for you also: When the last popular British governor of Virginia, Dunmore, sent a messenger to the Kan-Tuc-Kee (Kentucky) Indians, to ask to be able to peacefully settle on their lands, the messenger was sent back with the message that this land was not the natives' to give. The Indians said that a tribe of white people had lived in this area when they arrived, but they warred with them and killed them all, and now only their ghosts inhabited this particular area. There were other tribes who also told of warring with white people in the past and slaughtering them all. And as a matter of fact metal artifacts identified as Welsh have been found in the general area of the Ohio River Valley.

[Yetti]

As far as I was read about this topic , it seems tat the Smithsonian has their hands in the mud about giant skeletons, why?, because all is connected, all is related and if you discover one part of the puzzle is inevitable to unfold others and so on, that will lead to unveil the whole lie in we all where being submerged. Yes they are criminals, as I see. The same as the energy cartel, and the politic cartel. All the same scum. Hopefully this media will help the people to be more aware, more awake.

[Yetti]

Thanks bill for the note, here we all try to clarify our minds. A question in the air: why none of us is able to see, any of this skeletons, in any museum now? So, there is a kinda conspiracy here, and who's the must " competent institution " in the area? .....

[giovonni]

[I personally disagree this should be reclassified as satire. The original publication is NOT meant as satire in my opinion, it's meant as an attack on truth. I would never call an obvious mossad psy op satire.]
I changed the title of this thread from: "[satire] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s"

to: "[hoax] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s"

Back from a refreshing hot soak... and not to be disappointed... lol
Not to detract from the authorship, but I still say you're missing the bigger issue at stake... you are still caught in the 2 dimensional thinking of the main stream... (i.e. everything is black or white)

I think this guy is onto something... he has now single handedly focused on an issue, that I think needs exposing... and he did this without a huge expense account, troll money from the government (hint, hint ;) in fact no paid marketing whatsoever...

I still think the topic at hand is a worthy discussion...

Note i came upon this news story item yesterday ... and it immediately resonated with me and tickled my interest ... after doing some back checking i found it was an assorted and wishful plant upon the alternative minds on the web ...

Saying that i still wanted (had a keen desire) to post the story here on the forum ... For i had heard in several interviews by notable researchers of the shenanigans and purposeful intent by representatives within the Smithsonian org (in the past) to cover up these abnormal skeleton finds ...

Now ... the dilemma ... to post or not to post ...

Simply ... i concurred i had two options ...

Either post with some personal informational references and disclaimers ...

Or post and suffer the slings & arrows of the forum's sticbunkelers ..

Wisley (not) choosing nether ...

Not choosing to inherit (sigma6) this thread's obvious lesson wrath ...

Taking the bullet (for the truth) and affirming what my intuitive mind foretold ...

Still Sending Much Blessings To You :yo:

[Tangri]

[I personally disagree this should be reclassified as satire. The original publication is NOT meant as satire in my opinion, it's meant as an attack on truth. I would never call an obvious mossad psy op satire.]
I changed the title of this thread from: "[satire] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s"

to: "[hoax] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s"

Back from a refreshing hot soak... and not to be disappointed... lol
Not to detract from the authorship, but I still say you're missing the bigger issue at stake... you are still caught in the 2 dimensional thinking of the main stream... (i.e. everything is black or white)

I think this guy is onto something... he has now single handedly focused on an issue, that I think needs exposing... and he did this without a huge expense account, troll money from the government (hint, hint ;) in fact no paid marketing whatsoever...

I still think the topic at hand is a worthy discussion...

Note i came upon this news story item yesterday ... and it immediately resonated with me and tickled my interest ... after doing some back checking i found it was an assorted and wishful plant upon the alternative minds on the web ...

Saying that i still wanted (had a keen desire) to post the story here on the forum ... For i had heard in several interviews by notable researchers of the shenanigans and purposeful intent by representatives within the Smithsonian org (in the past) to cover up these abnormal skeleton finds ...

Now ... the dilemma ... to post or not to post ...

Simply ... i concurred i had two options ...

Either post with some personal informational references and disclaimers ...

Or post and suffer the slings & arrows of the forum's sticbunkelers ..

Wisley (not) choosing nether ...

Not choosing to inherit (sigma6) this thread's obvious lesson wrath ...

Taking the bullet (for the truth) and affirming what my intuitive mind foretold ...

Still Sending Much Blessings To You :yo:

Or tell us a story without name and place

[Zamolxe]

In Romania there are thousands of mounds across the whole country that haven't been researched. I was fascinated as a child by these mounds, seeing them in the fields where I grew up.
I have met folks that have been part of some excavations in the 60s 70s 80s and many of them have stories of giant bones being unearthed. These stories can be heard in almost any area with mounds and have actually become part of the folclore.
Here's a video made of a number of sites with these formations. Not all are prehistoric, some are medieval, some are from the thracian and geto-dacian periods... But they still look pretty cool.

Unfortunately there are no subtitles.

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There is a huge amount of suppressed archeology in Romania and I tried to keep my cool and also view it from a skeptical point of view when reading about the subject. But after visting some of the sites, witnessing clear signs of organised archeological digs that haven't ever been cataloged at the national history museum... a hidden agenda was undeniable.

Of course there have been tabloidal approaches to the subject, sensationalistic embelishment, hoax articles. But you can clearly spot these and after sifting through the BS there's a still lot being hidden

[A Voice from the Mountains]

As far as I'm aware there are thousands of these mounds around the Ohio River Valley in the US, thousands of them in Mexico and into Guatemala and other countries, there are mounds on the British Isles, concrete aggregate-like mounds in France and similar mounds in Afghanistan and Egypt and Sudan, hundreds of pyramidal structures buried in vegetation in China, and now you're saying also in Romania there are "thousands" of mounds.

I'm sure these aren't the only places in the world. These are just so widespread that doesn't it sound a lot like a global mound-building/pyramid-building culture in the immemorial past?

[Luciano]

Hello folks!! Sorry not been present as much as I would like, here´s something interesting from the "front":

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smithsonian-admits-to-destruction-of-thousands-of-giant-human-skeletons-in-early-1900s/


Regards

Luciano

[DNA]

Can anyone substantiate this claim?

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It appears this is bogus from a satire news site.

[Pam]

There was already another thread regarding this. It was determined to be a hoax The thread was of the same title with "hoax" added after it was determined to be inaccurate.


: [hoax] Smithsonian Admits Destroying Thousands Of Giant Human Skeletons In Early 1900′s

[Hervé]

Hello folks!! Sorry not been present as much as I would like, here´s something interesting from the "front":
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Regards
Luciano

Hi Luciano,

I merged your recently started thread with this previous one about the same subject.

Cheers!

Hervé


PS: In order to avoid repeats of previously posted subjects and videos, it might help to use the "Advanced" search function at the top right of the Forum page :)

[DeDukshyn]

Hello folks!! Sorry not been present as much as I would like, here´s something interesting from the "front":
[...]
Regards
Luciano

Hi Luciano,

I merged your recently started thread with this previous one about the same subject.

Cheers!

Hervé


PS: In order to avoid repeats of previously posted subjects and videos, it might help to use the "Advanced" search function at the top right of the Forum page :)

I still think we need a "Think twice before re-posting stories from here:" sticky thread ... ;) These two OP posts just as negative noise to a subject that certainly looks to actually have something to it ... My 2 cents ;)