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jerry
11th December 2014, 02:54
by Steve Watson | Infowars.com | December 10, 2014

An amendment to a Senate bill in Illinois has been overwhelmingly passed to ensure that recording police officers and government officials is now a felony.

The Amendment to Senate Bill 1342 was stealthily introduced on the back of an unrelated piece of legislation last week. It essentially reestablishes a completely unconstitutional eavesdropping law that was previously overturned by The Supreme Court in March for being too draconian.

The amendment has stripped away safeguards to free speech rights from the original legislation and instituted a blanket ban on recording officials in public. It was passed by both the Illinois House and the Senate, with huge majorities, within two days of its introduction.

A post at watchdog website IllinoisPolicy.org notes that the bill is designed to prevent people from documenting interactions with cops on their cell phones by making it a class 3 felony to “eavesdrop” on city and state officials including police officers, police, an attorney general, an assistant attorney general, a state’s attorney, an assistant state’s attorney or a judge.

The new amendment legislates its way around the ‘reasonable expectation of privacy’ standard in law by refraining from defining it, and merely states that recording any “oral communication between 2 or more persons” is now illegal.

A class 3 felony is punishable by a prison sentence of two to four years. The bill also outlines that it is now a class 4 felony to record a private citizen in such circumstances. The crime is punishable by one to three years in prison.

The vaguely worded legislation states:

(a) Eavesdropping, for a first offense, is a Class 4 felony (from Ch. 38, par. 14-4) and, for a second or subsequent offense, is a Class 3 felony.

(b) The eavesdropping of an oral conversation or an electronic communication of any
law enforcement officer, State’s Attorney, Assistant State’s Attorney, the Attorney General, Assistant Attorney General, or a judge, while in the performance of his or her official duties, if not authorized by this Article or proper court order, is a Class 3 felony, and for a second or subsequent offenses, is a Class 2 felony

Jacob Huebert, Senior Attorney at Liberty Justice Center, notes “There’s only one apparent reason for imposing a higher penalty on people who record police in particular: to make people especially afraid to record police.”

Huebert also notes that the legislation could impact the widely proposed move to implement body cameras for all police officers

“Police may argue that using body cameras to record encounters with citizens outside of “public” places would violate the law, as citizens have not consented to being recorded.” he writes.



In its previous overturning of the bill, The Supreme Court justices noted that the eavesdropping ban


“criminalizes a wide range of innocent conduct,” including “the recording of conversations that cannot be deemed private: a loud argument on the street, a political debate on a college quad, yelling fans at an athletic event, or any conversation loud enough that the speakers should expect to be heard by others. None of these examples implicate privacy interests, yet the statute makes it a felony to audio record each one. Judged in terms of the legislative purpose of protecting conversational privacy, the statute’s scope is simply too broad.”

Activists are calling for citizens to pressure Illinois governor, Pat Quinn (email here; https://www2.illinois.gov/gov/Pages/ContacttheGovernor.aspx) to veto the amendment.
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Craig
11th December 2014, 03:40
bad boys, bad boys whatcha gunna do? Anything they bloody want know it sounds like!

the_real_dave-id
11th December 2014, 04:35
Un-freakin' believable!!! They take images of us everywhere we go, doing anything and everything.... they record our conversations, emails, tweets all "just in case" we turn out to be home grown terrorists somewhere down the line, and yet we can't do the same in order to protect ourselves from their possible criminal behavior?

I'm certainly not surprised that that's how they see it.... but to make it THE LAW is... is... is... well there are rules about language on this board and I plan on sticking to them... but damn it's really, really hard because I can't currently think of eloquent ways to describe this kind of :bs: upon hearing this.... arrrrghghghghgh!

A Voice from the Mountains
11th December 2014, 05:57
1) Put a mandatory camera on every badge.

2) No more closed-door political meetings between elected representatives. Take a page from the guys who issued citizens' arrests to their local reps in Illinois.

3) Throw this bill in the garbage where it belongs.

jerry
11th December 2014, 06:20
I have added the link for anyone to express their disdain for these measures to help activists who are calling for citizens to pressure Illinois governor, Pat Quinn (email here; https://www2.illinois.gov/gov/Pages/...eGovernor.aspx) to veto the amendment.

nenosema
11th December 2014, 07:21
governing as it were doesn't exist, and these are some craaazy people, inmatching outfits saying 'oh haii, under this whatever ruling you cannot film what we're doing or we'll place you in our cages!!'



"to ensure that recording police officers and government officials is now a felony"
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Lifebringer
11th December 2014, 08:14
They are citizens, and the privacy stops on the public streets and inside a property owner's home or renter's home. So...now the judges who drink, do cocaine and solicit hookers, can't be photographed or video taped for evidence to have them removed. Not only that, but Scalia, Alito, Roberts attended KOCH meetings in swanky resorts bought out for the week during congressional/recesses. Seems like business meeting to (as you put it) bs the public into a "plantation nation" by outlawing everything, but working for them under the crappy conditions and toxins.
So we're to obey the law to allow them to come to our homes, shoot granny, the dog, throw military smoke bombs at a wrong address, and not record it? We're supposed to allow them to tase granny on the highway, beat grandma senseless, and run people over to stop them from running, all violation of human rights, and not record it? Hahahaha...boy they really are delusional with supposed power aren't they? You need citizens there to enforce the laws, other wise you're just policing those like yourself, and trust me, they usually don't like following what they impose on others. They'll be looking for a camera when crap hits them, but will it be too late for us, or our families, living the draconian coverup of injustice. The world knows America now a hypocritical nation full of bigots and elites that trample on the people and turn them to mindless slaves of materialism. I don't frown on materialism or wealth, however, how they get those dollars, and harm others I do care very much about. You see, every seizure of property by these raids, is distributed among the blue pirates bribed judges in cahoots w/for private prisons.
Well guess those concentration camps and a civil war against well armed police force probably with amped/microchip or steroids.

Watch your back people and move out of illinois or throw the people who voted for this out. It's all you can do, besides defend your families if they are cruising/preying on your neighborhood. How dare they film us, and we can't film them and we pay their salaries and benefits? Something is seriously wrong about this one.

cursichella1
11th December 2014, 12:14
Well, well. Interestingly, the same place where President Obama jettisoned to power overnight. And where those who manipulate the jet stream via aerial spraying, geoengineering and HAARP can legally wager on weather derivatives via the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. They already have strict gun laws, yet the most shootings? History of major corruption. What a mess.

This new law needs to be tossed, pronto. If not stopped quickly, it will eventually spread to other states, becoming the new normal. Please encourage friends to contact the Governor as Jerry suggests above. So very important to vocalize on this one!

Shezbeth
11th December 2014, 23:12
Two words: Jury Nullification.

Carmody
12th December 2014, 02:57
The way to defeat it is that everyone who sees a cop in Illinois, begins to film them. Every time, all the time, on sight. Everyone doing it.