For those who fall prey to the "Ascended Master" deception

[Chester]

Enjoy! Well... that is if you still have an open minded enough so to do -

y-2_CRsjoww

[Chester]

I know plenty of folks who frequent this forum who could benefit greatly from considering what Cameron Day has concluded (having been a targeted being... set up to be messianic)... ring a bell "anyone?"

Ohhh... just to be fair... I am one of the very ones I point my fingers at. Fortunately I have also recognized it and have taken full, 100% responsibility for everything I retain as "my thought," speak/write and do.

And guess what? I no longer experience attacks. Nor do I pretend to be some great "knower" who has incarnated on Earth at this time to help others evolve... hahaha.

[Anoushka]

OH YES! Right on Justone, but please be aware all, that shutting down the Matrix can have severe consequences. I have experienced serious psychic attacks (last year) when I went through "implants removals". As I was told later, these implants can also have curses affiliated with them and can cause disruption with our bodies.

the "healer" that "remove my implants" suddenly became afraid as I started to come back to her with serious impairs and she basically told me I was on my own. I though I was going to live in pain for the rest of my life. I had no more choice but to protect my self ON MY OWN...and I did just that. But let me tell you HOW LOW profile I am now ;-)

Don't give your power to ANYONE!

Bon courage à tous!!
Anne-Montreal

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I did some reading on this subject, and was led to believe that there may very well BE ascended masters, but their servants took advantage of their power, became corrupted by the same snares that befall many humans, and this led to the fall of an empire (Germany!).

The occultists who led up to the establishment of Hitler (sort of a dark god-king w/ Himmler as his high priest) had a choice -- the path of wisdom or the path of war. They chose the darkness and the "kingdom of a thousand years" lasted about 10.

People blame the devil, they blame the "fire from the mountain" and the wolf of the desert, but in all honesty they are bad servants.

In the Bible the prophets make sure to point out, you cannot serve two masters.


Jesus and Satan are examples of divine and also human entities embodying the concept of nobility, refusal to bow down.

I think the ascended master stuff might be loosely related to Yazidi/Melek Taus worship -- the white man's attempt to co-opt a highly successful cult and pervert its message from one of peace to one of war.

Reading up on the "Peacock Lord" and "angel king" of the Kurds explains a lot about why they experienced genocide at the hands of other Arabs. Also if you guys notice, the far eastern preservers of the worship of the peacock lord (Tibet?) has been subjugated by the communists.


The true cults of the "tutelary angel" and prince of darkness have been co-opted and overrun by politicians, perverts, and the power-mad.


Satan/Lucifer is essentially all about the test, not the sex drugs and rock n roll.
Most people fail the test.

http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/resized/425898.jpg


the watchers will always be taking an interest in how we react to life's challenges




Matthew 26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.



Genesis 3:24

After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.



Uriel (אוּרִיאֵל "El/God is my light", Auriel/Oriel (God is my light) Standard Hebrew Uriʾel, Tiberian Hebrew ʾÛrîʾēl) is one of the archangels of post-Exilic Rabbinic tradition, and also of certain Christian traditions.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/St._Uriel-_St_John%E2%80%99s_Church%2C_Boreham.jpg/640px-St._Uriel-_St_John%E2%80%99s_Church%2C_Boreham.jpg


see the red/yellow/black/white of the alchemists there? the great work



p.s. I left out Azazel , who is a tough customer but occasionally a good spirit guide


8 Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering for himself and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. 7 Then he shall take the two goats and set them before the Lord at the entrance of the tent of meeting. 8 And Aaron shall cast lots over the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Azazel. 9 And Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord and use it as a sin offering, 10 but the goat on which the lot fell for Azazel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Azazel.




— English Standard Version[2] Leviticus 16:8–10



the old man of the desert
shai hulud


http://bigotherbigother.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/azazel-sandman.jpg?w=910

a Gaiman reference to the difference between Azazel and Lucifer.

Azazel and Melek Tous often symbolized by serpent:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Gadsden_flag.svg/220px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png

the rebellious Gadsen Flag lol
which is another stone in my bag re: USA worships Set :madgrin:

[Desire]

Justone,

I am so happy for this info because I learned many year ago to speak up even when very difficult and always ends up working in my favor. I am free.

[birddog]

Just One, If your comment is for me, ...

"I know plenty of folks who frequent this forum who could benefit greatly from considering what Cameron Day has concluded (having been a targeted being... set up to be messianic)... ring a bell "anyone?",

***I'll step up to the plate...Yes, I am the one Jesus calls Mary. I have the Holy Grail, an energy that Jesus gave me back in 1990 or '91. It was in one of the giant almond seeds that He gave me when they floated from His pink Heart to my pink heart on the outside of our bodies. It was on Christmas Eve when He appeared. Jesus later gave me the Grail Cup to drink from in 2003, and I handed it back to Him, as there were agents about, and I didn't want them to take it.
The agents didn't see the Grail cup, but they did see the Templars and their swords when I later called on them to Rise Up, and help me, when I was continuously being shot down every time I got up. The agents ran and hid.

It is a fact, or the agents would not be here with me 24/7 since 2003, when they found me. They even have their best technology, as their always seems to be those black triangle planes over my house. A few weeks ago, I was wondering about what it looked like inside and I suddenly found myself inside of one, above my house. Most of these planes have mind to machine interface, and I didn't want to startle the pilot, so I left.. I can describe the inside of the cockpit, as their was only one seat, and the windows in the plane were too high for the pilot to see out, unless he stood up, out of his seat. They were more for natural light.
The front of the plane was very narrow, and the control panel was on both sides of the pilot, across the entire front of the plane. The color of the control panel
was black. I don't know how that I could know that unless I was in the plane.

*** I would not waste my time watching New World Order Programming. One way or the other they are trying to program us into thinking and believing what they want us to believe. They want us to turn away from God and the Light . Just before I started this post, I lost another long post explaining everything. I can see we are in for an ugly battle between the Light of Heaven and the Depths of Hell.

AI came from the Aliens, but the New World Order is using it to program and control us. Notice how 12 seconds into this video the AI calls GOD "IT", and states
that "it" controls us. No way. God gave us free will. This video has disinformation to mislead. Not only that, it sounds like it was written by an artificial intelligence, as it refers to God as "IT". I did not go beyond the 12 second page, as that was enough for me.

We are stronger then they are. We can think. Even with their technology inside of us, we can ask ourselves, is this something that I would say or do....and if not,
say or do nothing. You can beat this. Do not 'get a shot for AI if you think your are 'infected'. In fact, you don't want their shots. If you say I need a shot for an AI infection, it will probably be nanobots to control you. Be wary of what you read. Take what you want and leave the rest....meditate on it and let your higher self guide you.

The New World Order are Satanists, and they don't want anyone worshiping God. In fact, they want a one world religion, as religion is control and $$$$. Their
have already been meetings with the heads of certain religions about this.

Enough for now.... Love to all

[Shezbeth]

For the record, the "12 second page" is a quote taken from the works of Carlos Castaneda, in his dialogues with Don Juan. The interview doesn't even start until 17 seconds in, and the topic isn't even addressed until 30 seconds in.

Got a minute?

[birddog]

Thanks Shezbeth, I may go back and skim through it, but I had to address the page that was 12 seconds in.

[Chester]

How I came upon this interview was because I received an e-mail from Eve Lorgen as I am part of her mailing list. She provided a bullet point list of highlights and because of what I read on this list and because I have had direct dealings with several members of this forum who (as I perceive it) have bought into the "special chosen being" archontic game, I felt compelled to provide this interview just in case they might wish to open their mind to the possibility they have (like I had) fallen for the same game.

Topics discussed are:

How to discern the influence of astral parasites and Archontic influence

How we become “embedded” astrally in our energy bodies via dream hacking that results in “agreements of entrapement”.

The Twin Flame with Ascended Master con game done often with female channelers or others.

Remove astral parasites by clearing out emotional traumas, addictions and false belief systems and “programs”.

Possession–most people have some astral parasites which often enter through trauma.

Parasites create dramas, chaos and sudden triggering in relationships.

Self knowledge, healing, clearing and dedication to learning the truth regardless of what others think of you–will help clear you of parasites.

You have a right to defend yourself against astral parasites and their hosts by setting healthy and strong boundaries.

When you submit to an aggressor this results in an agreement of entrapment.

Positivity cults and false light programs and beliefs.

Mind programs of belief versus true spirit and source “realizations”.

Need for co-creation of helping each other get needs met in non-hierarchal systems and communities.

Here is the link to her website (http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/cameron-day-on-archontic-astral-parasites/) where she provides this list and link to the video interview.

[Chester]

Uriel (אוּרִיאֵל "El/God is my light", Auriel/Oriel (God is my light) Standard Hebrew Uriʾel, Tiberian Hebrew ʾÛrîʾēl) is one of the archangels of post-Exilic Rabbinic tradition, and also of certain Christian traditions.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/St._Uriel-_St_John%E2%80%99s_Church%2C_Boreham.jpg/640px-St._Uriel-_St_John%E2%80%99s_Church%2C_Boreham.jpg


see the red/yellow/black/white of the alchemists there? the great work



p.s. I left out Azazel , who is a tough customer but occasionally a good spirit guide



Uriel (according to the Diabolicon (http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/religion.occult.new_age/occult_library/Aquino_M-Diabolicon.pdf)) is the Angel of Terror and is the primary "Arch Angel" (can we say archon?) which works for Yahweh, aka Jehovah, aka the Head Archon Yaltabaoth and whose "job" is to continually spread terror upon mankind such that mankind might cry uncle and crawl to "GOD" for their salvation.

Azazel went with "the other guy" who was the first to exercise free will and is an example to us all.

[Shezbeth]

Azazel went with "the other guy" who was the first to exercise free will and is an example to us all.

In my perusal, there were 4 Principals (Princes) who went that way,.... Enki (wasn't he just mentioned in another thread?), Enlil (likewise), Astaroth (aka Ishtar/Isis), and Azazel as you mention. I could be wrong though,....

[Omni]

In my experiences none of the beings who could be considered ascended masters wanted that title. Some of the ETs I speak to said they didn't really like being called angels, as it elevates them above us. I do think most if not all of the ascended master stuff is psy op oriented. I haven't watched the OPs video.


We are stronger then they are. We can think. Even with their technology inside of us, we can ask ourselves, is this something that I would say or do....and if not,
say or do nothing. You can beat this. Do not 'get a shot for AI if you think your are 'infected'. In fact, you don't want their shots. If you say I need a shot for an AI infection, it will probably be nanobots to control you. Be wary of what you read. Take what you want and leave the rest....meditate on it and let your higher self guide you.

As an experiencer of malicious mind control... They negate analytical thought when they mind control someone. So no, you can't just say would I do this or not. That would take control of your own mind.

You say God gave us free will... What about my free will? It has been violated many times. It is very easy for someone who has not experienced the full capability of mind control to say all sorts of things about how to beat it. Fact of the matter is acute mind control is unstoppable. All mechanics of the mind involve scientific mechanics. And all of those mechanics are open source. The mind has no firewall. Not what people like to hear but that should not stop the truth from being told.

Everyone is susceptible to mind control. Nobody is above it. Extraterrestrials can be mind controlled too.

I catch most of my mind control after the fact. That doesn't stop it's effectiveness at times. And i wouldn't call myself "infected", severely targeted is how I would term it. They can target any person on the planet with their electromagnetic technology, some people they focus on more... No point in fearing it. It is just part of reality on this planet I have learned(the hard way).

[Aspen]

This video would probably be good to put on the new GoodETxSG thread about how to get rid of entity attachments. I have listened to the first hour and really like the video.

It is in agreement with what others say about the astral realm. Archonic beings, or those who pose as ascended masters and archangels try to deceive us about who we are. They try to persuade us to give our power away by being part of a heirarchical relationship and think that we have to earn our way into a "higher" realm that is really not higher at all. I am in agreement with what these two persons say about us being from Source energy and that it is Source that is our real home, not the astral realm.

It is interesting what they say about the relationship to an Ascended Master being a slave relationship and that Ascended Masters will offer some "guidance" to trick us into giving our power away. The overall dynamic is giving lots of our power away for a very tiny exchange of protection and a little bit of energy that they give back. This reminds me so much of the experience I had in a cult like church. If you examine the energy exchange, you are giving a lot more than you are getting back. I have a friend who has been trying to get me to develop a relationship with Archangel Raphael and St. Germain. He says he hears their voices telling him things all the time. But because of the horrible experience I went through in the cult organization, I am not about to give my power away so easily again. . . . . thanks Justone for this interview!

[gripreaper]

Justone, Avalon is currently replete with threads about astral attachments and all manner of psychic vampirism, abductions, stories of alien heritage, savior memes, ego and the subsequent beliefs and holograms manifest as a result.

In my experience, there is the astral where duality still exists, and the same discordance we see here in the third dimension is also present in the astral, and then there are the higher frequencies (for lack of a better word) where duality no longer exists. We can enter these states of Samadhi as differentiated souls and experience unity and the oneness of source with awareness of the self.

I don't know is you saw this here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66018-A-major-new-interview-with-a-Project-Avalon-Whistleblower--Questions-for-GoodETxSG-&p=895834#post895834) where I shared my experience and my perception of such.

I'm of the mind that those beings we often refer to as Ascended Masters are archetypes we choose to explain the soulstream energy of the first cause, the first differentiation from source. I'm not adverse to this, and I do agree that caution needs to be used when dealing in the astral where all manner of deception still occurs.

[ghostrider]

the trick of the controllers of Earth that has been used for thousands of years , getting a person to look outside themselves for someone else to determine their own fate ... anything to keep people from being responsible for their own thoughts actions and feelings ... one reason ET 's hide from Earth mankind , is so there is no more giving away personal responsibility to an outside force , person , idol , idea , illusion , you are the master of yourself ... the Earth is so full of people who want someone else to take care of them , do everything for them , determine how they should be , act , think , live , feel , dream etc ... It is time for Earth human beings to leave behind the age of beliefs and enter the Age of Knowledge ...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Azazel went with "the other guy" who was the first to exercise free will and is an example to us all.

In my perusal, there were 4 Principals (Princes) who went that way,.... Enki (wasn't he just mentioned in another thread?), Enlil (likewise), Astaroth (aka Ishtar/Isis), and Azazel as you mention. I could be wrong though,....

altho I am not a Pentecostal I do believe that the powers have names.
this is all super interesting stuff.

[DeDukshyn]

the trick of the controllers of Earth that has been used for thousands of years , getting a person to look outside themselves for someone else to determine their own fate ...


We could even simplified this. Without an underlying fear that drives all sense of inadequacies, "looking outside oneself" for self worth or direction would never occur. We are so close to understanding how to forever vanquish our controllers, but yet it seems so far at the same time, just a small psychological shift in the masses is all that is needed. Just that ability to honestly choose freely without that backdrop of fear disguising our selections as "required" and "practical" is all that is really required.

"What reason did you make that selection?" (a general question -- not posed for ghostrider specifically) Almost always is a hidden background of fear for every "reason" a human has that guides almost all their actions. Almost all these "reasons" are based in a disguised fear.

[ghostrider]

the trick of the controllers of Earth that has been used for thousands of years , getting a person to look outside themselves for someone else to determine their own fate ...


We could even simplified this. Without an underlying fear that drives all sense of inadequacies, "looking outside oneself" for self worth or direction would never occur. We are so close to understanding how to forever vanquish our controllers, but yet it seems so far at the same time, just a small psychological shift in the masses is all that is needed. Just that ability to honestly choose freely without that backdrop of fear disguising our selections as "required" and "practical" is all that is really required.

What reason did you make that selection? Almost always is a hidden background of fear for every "reason" a human has that guides almost all their actions. Almost all these "reasons" are based in a disguised fear.

because it goes back over 389,000 years , one crazy man leads a rebellion , a group that doesn't belong here in our time space , comes to earth with that mentality , the body dies on earth and that same spirit incarnates over and over and over , the lust for power and control is enticing to those who are lost or seeking someone to lead them ... so for 389,000 years that insanity along with their lineage has enslaved mankind into thinking the gods have all the answers , and each culture took it and made it their own , the greeks had Zeus , the Hebrews Jehovah , the Indians the great spirit , the Hindu had Budda , so on and so on ... it's not out of fear it's out of where giving away one's power truly originated ... rogue ET's that wouldn't reason with their fellow man and spread it throughout an entire galaxy causing chaos to this very day ...

[Shezbeth]

The Hindu had Buddha? 389,000 years? Care to qualify any of that Ghostrider?

[Shezbeth]

As an experiencer of malicious mind control... They negate analytical thought when they mind control someone. So no, you can't just say would I do this or not. That would take control of your own mind. [...] What about my free will? It has been violated many times. [...] Fact of the matter is acute mind control is unstoppable.

I do not mean to undermine your ideas here Omniverse, and I don't doubt that there is a huge technological capability as far as targeted mind control goes. However, you can't credibly say that mind control works this way for everyone, as you have only been you. Therefore, would it not be more accurate to say "they have negated your analytical thought when they have mind controlled you?

I don't doubt that (you feel) your free will has been violated and that acute mind control is unstoppable, and further I don't begrudge the experiences from which you reach this conclusion. Having very limited (singular, if I'm not mistaken) individual experience however (unless past lives have been mind controlled as well :p) it is impossible as a singular person to make absolute statements such as 'unstoppable for everyone'. Tell 'them' to turn their equipment on ME one of these days. ^_~

[Omni]

As an experiencer of malicious mind control... They negate analytical thought when they mind control someone. So no, you can't just say would I do this or not. That would take control of your own mind. [...] What about my free will? It has been violated many times. [...] Fact of the matter is acute mind control is unstoppable.

I do not mean to undermine your ideas here Omniverse, and I don't doubt that there is a huge technological capability as far as targeted mind control goes. However, you can't credibly say that mind control works this way for everyone, as you have only been you. Therefore, would it not be more accurate to say "they have negated your analytical thought when they have mind controlled you?

I don't doubt that (you feel) your free will has been violated and that acute mind control is unstoppable, and further I don't begrudge the experiences from which you reach this conclusion. Having very limited (singular, if I'm not mistaken) individual experience however (unless past lives have been mind controlled as well :p) it is impossible as a singular person to make absolute statements such as 'unstoppable for everyone'. Tell 'them' to turn their equipment on ME one of these days. ^_~

I can say such with like 99.9% certainty due to my understanding of such. What credible reason is there to assume there are mechanics that are not open source to any mind in existence? And how could those mechanics not be open source? The mind functions because it is tied to mechanics. All of those mechanics can be controlled... I am one of the harder people to mind control by the demographics I have been shown... It still works on me...

They can control the mind when the soul is out of the body... To me it is more than credible mind control technology works on everyone. There are resistances to mind control, but no immunity IMO.

I can say with relative assurance nobody is immune to mind control with logic and personal experience. However I have also had numerous telepathic contacts about such as well confirming the same thing. When they can control a soul without even being connected to a brain it's kind of hard to say it doesn't work on everyone.

I suppose it is possible some people somehow have non open source minds. I really don't think so though. Every case where people say they have beat it I have witnessed can be sourced to psy ops aimed at obfuscating the truth. They like to feign weakness with mind control on targets so the target thinks they are above control...

I realize my message in saying such is a little dark... Something I don't like speaking about really... But it is reality IMHO. There have been exopolitical rules set up for the common citizens protection from transhuman machinations. It doesn't protect from much other than things like a certain amount of free will is allowed, letting people have natural thoughts a certain amount of the time, etc. So with those exopolitical rules mind control can be beat in ways. But without them it would be impossible IMHO. No way around that IMO and it's a firm opinion.

[Shezbeth]

Here we go again,... :rolleyes:

... and to think, you were coming along so nicely.

Your experience is simply that; one person's experience. It is not exhaustive, nor has any authoritative backing. It is testimony and I do not diminish that, but 99.9% certainty allows for quite a plentitude when factored across 7 billion people, 0.1% of 7,000,000,000 being 7,000,000; still a vast minority, but not an insignificant number assuming your assumption of percentages is even correct.

As far as credibility, machines are complicated systems. It is true one can get a machine to do 'things' outside of input on a control panel (tweaking sensors, etc.), but getting the machine to run backwards (i.e. in a direction it is not inclined, programmed, or designed to operate) is impossible outside of hard-wiring/changing parts. External mind control then would only be impossible to resist/avoid in the event that the individual had already been preconditioned to respond to it. I'll agree that any machine (person) can be remotely overloaded (caused to cease operation), but not in the manner you describe. I can say this with moderate credibility as I study (scholastically) and work (professionally) in an engineering pursuit/environment, and body systems are 'simply' infinitely more complicated pieces of engineering.

I appreciate the admission however, that:


I suppose it is possible some people somehow have non open source minds. I really don't think so though.

... as it accepts the possibility, without convicting one's self to it; that is a credibly agreeable position to maintain. However, the follow-up of:


Every case where people say they have beat it I have witnessed can be sourced to psy ops aimed at obfuscating the truth. They like to feign weakness with mind control on targets so the target thinks they are above control...

... is rather unqualified. You're suggesting that the perception and/or experience of defeating mind control is a result of mind control,... which even if true is an incredible statement. I don't contest the possibility (indeed, it is a brilliant obfuscatory strategy if accurate), but that's the definition of circular thinking; logical in one sense (induction), but is neither the exclusive possibility nor is there evidence to support (aside from individual testimony/conviction). Telepathic conversationalists do not count as testimony, not credibly anyway.

However, the issue in this case is not one of mind control, it is one of willful submission to perceived Ascended Masters, Lords of Karma, et al who are perceived by the individual as authorities and being authoritative, where the reality may not be the case (as well as the consequences inherent). I appreciate your testimony as it does contribute to the discussion, but I would suggest that we please make our way :focus:,... ^_^

... if it pleases the OP.

[Chester]

Hi - wow... Lot's I wish I could comment on but I am embarking on a week's trip away.

[Chester]

BACK!

For those who enjoy the "ascension paradigm" and especially for those who connect this with "ascended masters" - I suggest you consider the views as expressed here by George Kavasillas.

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[Desire]

What can I say

[3(C)+me]

Great video and very much needed. I never wanted to channel and now maybe I know why. I do some individuals that may have some attachments. Their lives are always full of drama and they are very confused about a lot of things. One person I know who channels is a bit of a mess. This explains a lot.