Radical feminism is destroying young men.

[Observer1964]

The Sexodus: Guys are checking out of society & relationships

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Why are more and more young men giving up on women and checking out of society?

They?re calling it The Sexodus ? an entire generation of boys abandoning female company, relinquishing relationships and retreating into a virtual reality world of pornography, video games, lad culture and chemical addictions.

Anecdotally, the flip side of the equation also seems to be true. How often do you hear women who have resisted the brainwashing of radical feminism bemoaning the fact that they can no longer find ?real men?? Men who are actually confident enough to know how to act around women without being constantly terrified that every word they utter, every behavior they express, every opinion they espouse, may be taken as offensive, sexist or predatory.

In part one of a series of articles on The Sexodus, Breitbart?s Milo Yiannopoulos notes that an entire generation of young people are being left behind in the wreckage of the social engineering project that is third wave feminism.

Yiannopoulos spoke to Jack Rivlin, editor of over 30 student newspapers, who told him of the increasingly troubling trend of young men on campus being completely clueless and scared when it comes to how to engage with women.

What?s to blame for this breakdown? The hysterical propaganda surrounding so-called rape culture, exemplified by the recent Rolling Stone/University of Virginia scandal, plays a major role. As does its consequences, mandatory ?consent? classes and California?s onerous and confusing ?yes means yes? law, where students, in whatever state of inebriation, need to secure a kind of arbitrary verbal contract with each other before they can engage in any kind of sexual activity.

The deadening of young boys? naturally rambunctious behavior via ADHD drugs like Ritalin, as well as their educational abandonment, is also creating a generation of dysfunctional and reclusive adolescents devoid of all self esteem, miserable, and unable to relate to the opposite sex.

The discrepancy between what women say they want and what they actually want also serves to confuse young men further.

?Men are constantly told they should be delicate, sensitive fellow travellers on the feminist path,? writes Yiannopoulos. ?But the same women who say they want a nice, unthreatening boyfriend go home and swoon over simple-minded, giant-chested, testosterone-saturated hunks in Game of Thrones. Men know this, and, for some, this giant inconsistency makes the whole game look too much like hard work. Why bother trying to work out what a woman wants, when you can play sports, masturbate or just play video games from the comfort of your bedroom??

The divorce process is also set up to grossly favor women over men, leaving many men frightened to get married for fear of losing everything. Women are also becoming less and less interested in monogamy, claiming the ?player? mantle so often ascribed to men for themselves as some twisted form of sexual equality.

Are western men in increasing numbers at risk of turning into Japan?s herbivores, men who shun sex and prefer to go on long walks rather than flirt with girls? Is it any surprise that many men are turning to infamous pick up artists like Julien Blanc in a desperate last ditch effort to reclaim their confidence around women?

Traditionally male characteristics, qualities and traits have also been ridiculed by third wave feminism and contemporary culture. There are virtually no true positive male role models left at all. Men have been brainwashed that ?white knight? behavior is the only recourse left to get them laid, when of course, that doesn?t work either.

The response to part one of Yiannopoulos?s article was overwhelming, with over 500 men responding to say how much they resonated with its message.

24-year-old Mark wrote, ?Everyone I know feels the same. Your article spoke directly to us. We?re not all losers and nerds, we?re just normal guys who are either scared of being accused of terrible stuff by harpies or simply can?t be bothered any more. I can?t believe I?m saying this but I just can?t deal with hassle of women any more.?

?I?m an athlete. My parents have a lot of money. I have plenty of friends and a good social life. I don?t hang out with women any more, wrote 28-year-old Francis. ?Occasionally I?ll have one night stands, but mostly I fill my time with other things. I got accused of molesting a girl at college and since then I?ve just thought, whatever. I play sports instead.?

This is the Sexodus ? young men giving up on women entirely as a result of the destruction wrought by social engineering and radical feminism, a process which then punishes women by leaving them with a choice between the simpering, pathetic white knight or the emotionally or physically abusive thug.

Once again, the train wreck of radical feminism and the contrived gender war ? promoted at every turn by the political class and establishment media ? is driving a wedge between men and women, it?s derailing the cohesiveness of western society. This is the most ominous form of social engineering. This is divide and conquer on the biggest scale imaginable.

Are you a young man who has given up on women and because part of the Sexodus? Are you a young woman who has abandoned all hope of finding a real man? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below?.

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[Observer1964]

The reason I post this is that I feel a strong relation of this matter with something else...


Willie Lynch letter The Making of a Slave (http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/Willie_Lynch_letter_The_Making_of_a_Slave.shtml)

excerpt from the letter…


We have reversed the relationship; in her natural uncivilized state, she would have a strong dependency on the uncivilized ****** male, and she would have a limited protective tendency toward her independent male offspring and would raise male offsprings to be dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and pulling a civilized ****** apart and bullwhipping the other to the point of death, all in her presence. By her being left alone, unprotected, with the MALE IMAGE DESTROYED, the ordeal caused her to move from her psychologically dependent state to a frozen, independent state. In this frozen, psychological state of independence, she will raise her MALE and female offspring in reversed roles. For FEAR of the young male’s life, she will psychologically train him to be MENTALLY WEAK and DEPENDENT, but PHYSICALLY STRONG. Because she has become psychologically independent, she will train her FEMALE offsprings to be psychologically independent. What have you got? You’ve got the ****** WOMAN OUT FRONT AND THE ****** MAN BEHIND AND SCARED. This is a perfect situation of sound sleep and economics. Before the breaking process, we had to be alertly on guard at all times. Now, we can sleep soundly, for out of frozen fear his woman stands guard for us. He cannot get past her early slave-molding process. He is a good tool, now ready to be tied to the horse at a tender age. By the time a ****** boy reaches the age of sixteen, he is soundly broken in and ready for a long life of sound and efficient work and the reproduction of a unit of good labor force. Continually through the breaking of uncivilized savage niggers, by throwing the ****** female savage into a frozen psychological state of independence, by killing the protective male image, and by creating a submissive dependent mind of the ****** male slave, we have created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever, unless a phenomenon occurs and re-shifts the position of the male and female slaves.

Now I have had several relations that basicly had the same general course, and I see the women just as lonely as men.
Isn't it time we start solving this problem? Becoz I think this is a major reason why we are so inactive towards what is going on in our society.

Anyway, I hope we can get a discussion started preferebly with both the genders.

[Flash]

As long as we speak and act with anger or fears, we will project on the other sex.

Speaking and living with the heart stops this, for both sexes

Yes extreme feminism is destructive for all parties. Extreme machism as well. We have been historicalky to an extreme and now the swing is trying to go back, but believe me , woman who give birth to boys can never hate men as much as men hate women Hard core feminism taken over by lesbian is difficult to handle however, even for women.

Before judging women's reactivity, a little review of history of the sexes or just a plain review of po. Rn sites will reveal much in terms of suffering of one sex under the heartless behavior of another one.

And both sexes suffer much from this and do not expand their conciousness.

[sheme]

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be
measured by the way in which its ..... ... animals are treated."
Mahatma Gandhi.

I would add "Women and" to that statement.

[Observer1964]

As long as we speak and act with anger or fears, we will project on the other sex.

Speaking and living with the heart stops this, for both sexes

Yes extreme feminism is destructive for all parties. Extreme machism as well. We have been historicalky to an extreme and now the swing is trying to go back, but believe me , woman who give birth to boys can never hate men as much as men hate women Hard core feminism taken over by lesbian is difficult to handle however, even for women.

Before judging women's reactivity, a little review of history of the sexes or just a plain review of po. Rn sites will reveal much in terms of suffering of one sex under the heartless behavior of another one.

And both sexes suffer much from this and do not expand their conciousness.

Thank you for your response.
I agree a lot with what you say, but well maybe I should thumbsucked up another titel to this threat instead of copying the titel of the first article, but my focus is more on how this situation is much like the situation in Willy Lynch's letter. I think as a society we're being manipulated, the role of the man has been downplayed and the woman act strong but basicly depend on the state where previous generations depended on their husbands and how this is so close to the excerpt from Lynch's letter. And I hope that by becomming aware of this manipulation we can heal this situation.
"unless a phenomenon occurs and re-shifts the position of the male and female slaves."I hope we can create this phenomenon ourselves through the awareness of the fact that we are being manipulated to 'Swing back'.
BTW...
I did have some girlfriends who did not mind to expose herself, actually it turned her on.
And for those who do it for the money, well in a way we are all prostetuting for money, but not always with sexual service, just think of the word presstitude...
Were all being abused and made into slaves... and this reversed role is part of a method of controling slaves.

[Observer1964]

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be
measured by the way in which its ..... ... animals are treated."
Mahatma Gandhi.

I would add "Women and" to that statement.
I would add Man, Woman, Elderly, Sick and how and what we teach our children.

Not that I want to say that women are treated that well in general. But I see a lot of broken men as well. Broken relations, and young men giving up on dating.
So pls, lets not turn this into a 'only women suffer' kind of thread, I see and experience myself that it is not only the women who suffer. And to be honest, I feel lonely too, but I had several relations in wich I noted the similarities and basicly gave up on dating too. And I read also here on PA pieces of women that between the lines cry; 'I am so lonely I can cry'. So I just want some healing, not blaming. If I want to blame, then I blame the manipulators.

[gripreaper]

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be
measured by the way in which its ..... ... animals are treated."
Mahatma Gandhi.

I would add "Women and" to that statement.
I would add Man, Woman, Elderly, Sick and how and what we teach our children.

Not that I want to say that women are treated that well in general. But I see a lot of broken men as well. Broken relations, and young men giving up on dating.
So pls, lets not turn this into a 'only women suffer' kind of thread, I see and experience myself that it is not only the women who suffer. And to be honest, I feel lonely too, but I had several relations in wich I noted the similarities and basicly gave up on dating too. And I read also here on PA pieces of women that between the lines cry; 'I am so lonely I can cry'. So I just want some healing, not blaming. If I want to blame, then I blame the manipulators.

You might ask Paul or one of the moderators to change the name of your thread to something like "the dehumanization of gender into slaves" and be more succinct in your opening post. I appreciate that you have clarified your intent in the subsequent posts.

[NancyV]

Since I'm 67 years old I've observed the rise of radical feminism. Although I'm a very strong, outspoken woman I've never liked feminism or feminists. It has always seemed to me that they want to emasculate men and make them more like women or just attempt to control them. The men I've always been attracted to are strong, masculine men, although I've had many male friends who are artists, musicians, gay, or with other more sensitive type personalities. The genders seem more out of balance now than they did 30 years ago when my son was young.

My son went to a couple of private schools where boys seemed to be deliberately disempowered and made to feel ashamed of their masculine tendencies. In a Waldorf school I had him in for a while, they had a policy that young boys should not play with any toy guns, knives or swords. I had a big argument with them explaining that my son would pick up branches and pretend they were guns or swords and that it seemed to me to be a natural instinct which I had no intention of discouraging. They also told me he should never wear the color RED since that might arouse his passion, red being a color of passion and intensity. Well, that made me laugh since his last name was ALLRED. I told them that he wore a lot of red and I saw no reason to stop that. I took him out of that school after 3 months. Eventually I home schooled him starting in the 6th grade because we were not pleased with a lot of the brain washing that seems to go on in most schools and he had been in 5 different schools by the age of 11 or 12.

Radical feminism started getting much more prevalent in the last 30 years. Feminists claim to want equality with men but so many take it to extremes actually thinking that men and women can be equal. We are very different and always will be. Men will always be stronger than the vast majority of women. They think differently, they are often more logical and less driven by their feelings. One reason why it's fairly easy for women to have some power over men is because they usually have a stronger instinctive desire for sex. This is a survival trait men have so they will spread their seed and the human species will not become extinct. Feminists love to criticize men who have a strong sex drive and are attracted to many women. I always thought that was stupid since it's a natural male trait. My husband still looks at gorgeous women and comments on different parts of their anatomy! I just laugh since he's being a normal man.

Feminists and women who try to control their men will probably be very sorry that their campaign to emasculate men has worked very well on so many of their lovers, husbands and sons. If the day ever comes when they need the protection of a real man and all they have is their obedient husband, they will then suffer the consequences of what they have wrought.

[Observer1964]

Thank you very much NancyV, I was hoping for a response like yours, and hope younger women will read and understand it too.

[sheme]

We were told it was all Eves fault after all ! Poor men -dick for brains is the real problem, too much masculinity is so unattractive- selfishness of 'her' son to balanced female self sacrifice- a few men brought up to expect their mums to wipe up after them -then their wives take over the roll- then their daughters lay down their existence for whom so ever chooses them.
A few woman are breaking the cycle and this upsets the male who is looking for a keeper/ slave/ mother/ breeder/ but definitely not a free thinker, as far as I am concerned this is natural selection taking place, men that don't adjust wont breed with the quality females- that is how it should be - Ironically women-by finding their own selfish gene- have rejected the male with these genes. Two kind wise adults are needed to raise kids these days. These are transitional days there are bound to be difficulties.

[bluestflame]

have heard it mentioned what was behind the original movement largely popularised through the efforts of germaine greer , was yet another government alphabet agency" project/operation, to create division between the sexes and to destabilise the family unit

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

For years men have killed and enslaved each other, taking the women as property and children as slaves.

Racism has endured down the centuries along with religious bigotry.

Animals going extinct due to being overhunted to death by men who cannot support their families due to said wars and religions.

The planet on the edge of cataclysmic climate shift, and possible war with the far east over the falling price of oil...

Not to mention, most of us have a mother in various forms who did her best to take care of us and do right in spite of the expectations of the times.

Most people who get off their ass and try can find a decent relationship. Only the pathetic opt to stay w/ losers or maybe people with kids lol.

Just saying, aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?


Evolution = things change.
Out with the old IMO.

[seeker/reader]

(Please note, for those of you who don't know I am a female.) This thread reminded me of the other end of the spectrum, the lovely :rolleyes: world of Stepford.

The female improvement system... "First we locate her brain. We insert a few nano-chips, then we program them. Also we add some secret special ingredients (sugar, spice and everything nice)....Finally we enhance her to fit the ideal Stepford wife specifications...then voila, everything is copacetic."

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"What a delight to see all our wonderful wives and their happy, happy husbands...Stepford, the American way of love."

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"She gives singles."
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"Places and poles please...Whatever we do we always want to look our very best. Imagine if our husbands saw us in worn, dark, urban sweat clothes with stringy hair and almost no makeup."

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"Is it brainwashing?"...."This isn't me. It's a whole new me. I am happy and I'm healthy because I understand what's important in life...my husband, my family and making a perfect home. It's a lesson every gal needs to learn, especially you ...I'm your friend...I'm going to help you. You need me. You're driven and your selfish, you want to rule the world. I can fix you. I can change you."

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[Observer1964]

For years men have killed and enslaved each other, taking the women as property and children as slaves.

Racism has endured down the centuries along with religious bigotry.

Animals going extinct due to being overhunted to death by men who cannot support their families due to said wars and religions.

The planet on the edge of cataclysmic climate shift, and possible war with the far east over the falling price of oil...

Not to mention, most of us have a mother in various forms who did her best to take care of us and do right in spite of the expectations of the times.

Most people who get off their ass and try can find a decent relationship. Only the pathetic opt to stay w/ losers or maybe people with kids lol.

Just saying, aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?


Evolution = things change.
Out with the old IMO.



I think you miss the point I try to make here, I am not blaming women, I noticed something in my life and in friends life and our relations and that in the behaviour of many women there is something like a standard program to emasculate their boyfriend/husband and i felt that there must be something more than coincidence to that, and a few days ago I stumbled over this stuff of Willy Lynch and how a certain methode of controlling slaves is very similar to what I noticed, and than I found this article in my mailbox about this sexodus. So I felt a certain need to talk about this phenomena and that we are being manipulated into this behaviour, It is not evolution, It is a manipulation to enslave us. (Men and Women alike)
I was happy with NanvyV's response (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78005-Radical-feminism-is-destroying-young-men.&p=912614&viewfull=1#post912614) and hope u will read it to.

But ofcoz u r free to think of it as crap as well.

[sheme]

Quote
"I think you miss the point I try to make here, I am not blaming women, I noticed something in my life and in friends life and our relations and that in the behaviour of many women there is something like a standard program to emasculate their boyfriend/husband and i felt that there must be something more than coincidence to that, and a few days ago I stumbled over this stuff of Willy Lynch and how a certain methode of controlling slaves is very similar to what I noticed, and than I found this article in my mailbox about this sexodus. So I felt a certain need to talk about this phenomena and that we are being manipulated into this behaviour, It is not evolution, It is a manipulation to enslave us. (Men and Women alike)
I was happy with NanvyV's response and hope u will read it to.

But ofcoz u r free to think of it as crap as well. "


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Thank you "But ofcoz u r free to think of it as crap as well. " Correct.

[dianna]

… aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?




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[Michel Leclerc]

Dear Tesla, I will henceforward enthusiastically quote the phrase snippet "wipe their kindergartenish behinds" and when requested to produce its source point out that Tesla said so. There must be some prosecco around here to toast to your wit! Michel

[TigaHawk]

I think the bigger issue is all the strain, pressure and mindset that people are meant to act In a certain way - the scrutiny and insults received when you do not conform to said things.


Examples:

You are a man - you are meant to look manly, tall, lean, muscely. you are meant to act strong - being able take physical and emotional pain without showing a response and always making the strong and correct decision. your meant to be a leader ,take charge and look after your family.

As a woman you are meant to look slim and attractive. you are meant to be soft, uninterested in things that appeal to men (like sports, things such as weightlifting or racing car's) and weak (show a strong reaction to both physical and emotional discomfort) you are meant to tell everyone about your insecurities as it's gossip that other women love hearing and comforting you about. you are meant to be a support and fully look after your husband with his endeavours.


When it should be: you are a person. you are entitled to like what you want and act how you want as long as it causes no harm to others or your environment. you do not need to act as others expect of you. It is OK to be yourself. If your a grown man that likes Shetland Pony's and breeding them for a prize there is no shame in that. Just as if your a grown woman and are a mechanic that could pull a truck engine apart and back together again there is no shame in that - because you are not a stereotype/thing - being what someone else wants you to be has nothing to do with you, your best interests nor theirs.

If we dropped all the crap with expecting, criticizing, shaming, and hating people that don't fit into category's that we create - we'd all be much happier and well off.

But let's skip all of the above and jump right into how certain stereotypes/things are critically needed to keep the world balanced - right? :tinfoil3:

[Bluegreen]

The issue of Hikikimori (as these young men are called in Japan) has become so widespread it has gained the attention of the MSM. The BBC tells us that Hikikimori has entered the Oxford English Dictionary as "In Japan: abnormal avoidance of social contact"
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23182523
Even Wikipedia has an entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikimori

I'm blaming the Rockefellers and the 400 criminal satanists who run the Western Hemisphere on this one. It's what I imagine they would call a successful social project.

As we know, everything the so-called illuminati puts in front of us (TV, movies, music, war machine lies disguised as "news" etc.) is specifically designed (it must be admitted ingeniously) to distract us from our spiritual development, and "distract" may be too mild a word to describe the situation. "Total Immersion in a Fantasy World" may be more like it. Ask any American male under the age of 16 (or possibly over) what he did this weekend and the chances are pretty good he'll say

"I played my game."
Oh yeah? What game?
"Black Ops. Then Call of Duty for awhile."

Further inquiry will reveal this took place Friday night, Saturday, and Sunday night, and never for less than four hours at a pop. Saturday night? He went to an "action" movie. Did he go with his girlfriend? When you live in a virtual world why not have a virtual girlfriend? To put it country simple, these boys do not live in the real world. Don't think their dads are going to be of any help, as they are hunched over their own computers researching college athletes and NFL practice squads for their Fantasy Football league.

I have also read several creepy stories from several different sources about Germaine Greer, Gloria Steinem, and the CIA. I don't know about this, but if they talked about it at the Bilderberg meetings in the 60's they would probably exclude that from the minutes.

The OP makes some good points that I cannot disagree with, but I am hesitant to pin all the blame on the males themselves (perhaps because I am one). It is difficult for one who came of age in a world without computers to see what the world looks like to those who don't know otherwise.

[Gaia]

I was 23 years old on December 6, 1989. On that day , an armed man who said he hated feminists entered the École Polytechnique. He killed 14 women before killing himself. I was this naive girl still convinced that this fight was not about me. In a pinch, maybe it was my mother, my grandmother. I define feminism as a movement to end patriarchy and male violence against women. The sexodus is not about feminism at all! I honestly think this is a multi level problem, of which computers play a huge role,or at least gaming and mobile telephones. Peoples lacked the capacity for face to face interaction.

[nenosema]

There's so much variation in feelings & the way everyone was brought up through life, made to feel that they weren't who they were supposed to be when really it's just the opposite, make it real, Become Who You Are n people will love you for that, it's not only brave, it's honest, traits anyone can share
someone said once.. if youre not being yourself then you don't exist..


I know a couple people who are non-binary, meaning they don't IDENTIFY as either gender-roll scripted for us, but fall somewhere inbetween expressing simply as human beings. some say even there is a 3rd gender, who knows? IMO if there was a 3rd gender, it would be becoming who you are, because no 'ideas' like that can define you..
We let pain define us, yea, pain brought on "by gender obligations" in the past, certain misgiving or attitudes portrayed by scared, sad lonely people of whatever sex, trying to make a living to get by, didn't know how else to be. We have different attributes & there's nothing wrong with having different strengths, so we can back eachother up, just like some people in different positions will do a better job in TRUTH (actuality) with science, teaching, medicine, farming, crafting, building, etc. & EVERYONE has got to get back into flowing contact with LOVE
#1, 2nd Sharing n the rest, it can go from there.. yea?

can you bend gender guidlines? can we change hurt to mending??

can I share a poem with you?
it's old

..The fire of masculine energy is a strong one and it
has many powerful coals backing up its flames in waves
of heat.. but with this perceived scene of separation
from the feminine flame..the masculine fire burns on....


A feminine fire burns too.. not far away, with many
coals and strong all encompassing heat, aswell. These
two fires would burn much brighter if brought together,
to blaze they're true light. the gentle spark within us
all, ever warmed by love..

[wishinshow]

I find Teal Scott's teachings on this subject to be informative.

http://youtu.be/Vnbi2tiTHAk

[Observer1964]

Old-Thinker News | December 12, 2014

By Ariel Gail Maclean

In response to Paul Joseph Watson’s commentary on the “Sexodous”

When men and women save themselves in front of one another, eventually we will recognize one another, reach out for the other’s hand, and this path back into one another’s arms might save the human race in time

I am in the Third Stage / First Wave Feminism Backlash whereby not only are there rapidly shrinking age-appropriate males even alive, they are so NOT psycho-spiritually/emotionally available that the pool of prospective Love Partners is down to a virtual zero.

So many people have not learned / do not simply Love themselves. If they did, they would engage with their own self-development as a person. I understand this article is authored by my grandkids’ generation and is being appreciated by much younger people, but I would like to elevate the broadcast by explaining this: Somewhere along the way, the oldest Boomers forgot to talk to one another too – we who have suffered the longest (longetudinally) by what I believe is the end result of nearly a century of Sick Media Programming.

The Heterosexual Grand Canyon you speak of is an END RESULT (and now a cause of further schism) of the loss of the primary cultural, psycho-spiritual, and moral connectors between human beings – the one between a Man and a Woman. So, yes, your descriptions of the symptoms are extremely accurate but they are symptoms of the dis-ease. The Disease is our individual inability to deal with reality, to live truthfully in terms of our relationship with our self, and this foundation “skill” – to See Ourselves As We Are, as opposed to how we are told we need to appear, or how we wish we were, or how our spin-mythology would have us believe – this is the essential missing ingredient which precludes being able to change, grow, adapt, self-correct across and within all generations.

It all starts with personal honesty which is so much more than the absence of outright lies; no one is qualified to develop this essential adult skill except each of us as individuals. Lack of personal honesty about who we are and what we actually do, pre-determines our capacity to correctly view the world around us, to understand and be an effective, informed Citizen, and to effect any change anywhere. We must first SEE THINGS, including ourselves, AS THEY ARE. It is very painful to see what is essentially the accumulated wisdom of an entire civilization being squandered almost overnight but that is what is happening in the world and our beloved country, the good ole US of A leads the pack with the most asleep population on the planet.

The second point I regret to have to make is that males especially, and of all generations, are suffering from widespread consumption saturation of a plethora of hormone disrupters.

This has accumulated to such a degree in all our water and food, and has so permeated prescribed medications that both men and women consume daily by virtue of the fact that we drink and eat, that the elephant in the room has to be the unknown impact of the most pharmaceutically contaminated country on the face of the Earth. Something like 87% of the mood-altering (and hormone disrupting) drugs (street and prescribed) of the entire planet are consumed by less than 5% of the population (USA) of the planet. Think about this. No matter how drug-free we think we are, we are doomed from the start as the average child born today has frightingly high levels of so many chemicals already in their bloodstreams (many which are pharmaceuticals that affect sex hormones), that the belief of just living a clean life is useless. I have a lifetime of being around young families and (for example), I do not know a single family “trying to get pregnant” who does not have fertility issues.

This is another facet of the hormone disruption impact of the chemicals we are bathing in, and again, points to the fact that we are all victims of the same onslaught. The divisive stories our Divide And Conquer government agencies use to promote further reasons to buy their “cures” must be seen for what they are: population control. We need to remember the time when men and women were on the same team and operated off the playbook: Preserve the Relationship.

The last point is this: the hardest road ahead is for young males. We have in the course of a few decades, virtually destroyed the path to adulthood which used to belong to the Worker. Men even more than women, define themselves through Work.

As our values as a nation changed to exclude real industry – making things, being a Producer on an individual and small group scale, our ability to make a place in the world of adults evaporated. Large corporate interests leave no room for individual self-expression and self-reliance cannot be manufactured out of thin air – when was the last time you tried to be an entrepreneur? I have a lifetime of experience in this and it is simply NOT the same world of potentials that it was 50 years ago. So, part of what I will say here will be misunderstood: we need to stop blaming the victim and learn to separate this from the knee-jerk sense of entitlement which is the other end of the problem continuum. Ordinary people are not the cause of this but they are the only ones who can save themselves. The government prevents us from making work for ourselves.

There are so many barriers in front of enterprising energy that it makes the marginally qualified and financially depleted young male bury themselves in drugs, alcohol, and mind-numbing electronics (which activate the exact same part of the brain that drugs activate – no difference, it’s still addiction). Addiction is the end result of our inability to deal with reality and addiction also continues our inability to deal with reality. What we have in America right now is a critical mass of the population who are technically speaking, Addicted. I am a former Substance Abuse Counselor and will say from personal experience: Systems of Addiction Resist Change and it is going to take one hell of a big impact for enough people to wake up and save themselves. When men and women save themselves in front of one another, eventually we will recognize one another, reach out for the other’s hand, and this path back into one another’s arms might save the human race in time.

http://www.oldthinkernews.com/2014/12/11/feminism-backlash-media-programming-endocrine-disruptors-will-men-find-their-hearts-again/

[DNA]

I think the chemical additives in foods are adding to this as well. So many young men live on fast food and Doritos.
Also, think about how autism works. It almost seems like a very mild form that is not diagnosed has affected a much larger part of society than is commonly acknowledged.

[Violet]

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be
measured by the way in which its ..... ... animals are treated."
Mahatma Gandhi.

I would add "Women and" to that statement.
I would add Man, Woman, Elderly, Sick and how and what we teach our children.

Not that I want to say that women are treated that well in general. But I see a lot of broken men as well. Broken relations, and young men giving up on dating.
So pls, lets not turn this into a 'only women suffer' kind of thread, I see and experience myself that it is not only the women who suffer. And to be honest, I feel lonely too, but I had several relations in wich I noted the similarities and basicly gave up on dating too. And I read also here on PA pieces of women that between the lines cry; 'I am so lonely I can cry'. So I just want some healing, not blaming. If I want to blame, then I blame the manipulators.

You might ask Paul or one of the moderators to change the name of your thread to something like "the dehumanization of gender into slaves" and be more succinct in your opening post. I appreciate that you have clarified your intent in the subsequent posts.

The title seems straight to the point to me.

It's a sad trend. I wrote about this recently in the Here and Now. Will dig later on to see if I can find it. Conclusion was the same: both genders end up losing in the end.



I think the chemical additives in foods are adding to this as well. So many young men live on fast food and Doritos.
Also, think about how autism works. It almost seems like a very mild form that is not diagnosed has affected a much larger part of society than is commonly acknowledged.

My bets are on the meat and the hormones in it. Last article I read on the topic (exact source missing but search engine full of it) revealed how girls are reaching puberty much faster now than before and that there might be a correlation with increased consumption of hormones, indirectly of course, via meat. I don't know what such increased female hormones intake would do in a man.

[Violet]

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[Jake]

… aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?




http://media.tumblr.com/c573883acf5b60f96cf5023cf3dad32b/tumblr_inline_n5mmd2UYDR1s6dnga.gif


Clearly, we have a long way to go...


Disgusted
Jake

[Jake]

I love you all.. without regards gender..

Jake

[NancyV]

I love you all.. without regards gender..

Jake
One of the wonderful things about travels out of body is that it becomes obvious that gender means almost nothing, other than a vehicle used to engage in the games. In the astral planes one can choose a gender to portray their being, sort of like an avatar that we select to continue our interactions in duality. I've seen many beings in the astral realms who do not yet know that their appearance is a choice and many simply remain in the gender that they were in their previous life. They are still learning about their power and their ability to make choices and until they learn, they will be somewhat stuck. But since time doesn't mean much it doesn't matter if they are stuck for a while. We all eventually let go of all gender identifications and attachments. It was a huge relief to me when I moved beyond the dimensions where many of us still use gender appearance as our avatar or vehicle. There are also beings who use dragons, demons, almost anything you can think of as their vehicle.

When out of body I actually feel genderless and my many years of OBE's definitely influenced me to feel less female gender identification in body from the age of about 33 on. However, the mind and upbringing still influences me when I am living this life. I have a bias towards and a preference for men and the way they think. Most of my friends have been men, with a few exceptions for some women I find to be intelligent and aware. This is probably why I paid so much attention to every aspect of my son's life and went out of my way to make sure he would not be emasculated.

I agree that hormones and pharmaceuticals play a large role in emasculating men, especially in the last 30 years or so as more and more crappy pharmaceuticals are added to animal feed and human food. Unless we buy organic or grow our own food for a large part of our diet, we are getting substances that affect us in many ways, probably not any good ways. Most of us don't have the time or a place to do that so we are seeing the results of these experiments over which we have little control. Some of what is done to the food supply is done through ignorance, but much of it is probably deliberate.

I can't say that I know absolutely how much is a deliberate attempt to make men weaker and more effeminate (better slaves), but radical feminism reinforces, aids and abets, whether knowingly or unknowingly, the attempts to emasculate men. All these methods are working to weaken and make ill both men and women. Women are becoming more manly, men are becoming less manly and we're all becoming more imbalanced and sick.

This could be regarded as totally negative, but I prefer to view it from a larger perspective. Sometimes when the negative increases greatly, as seems to be occurring now, it spurs the positive to be stronger. When the positive becomes strengthened it pulls things back into balance. I personally think this physical realm is more about balance than about having everything be wonderful, peaceful and loving. This is a matrix where we learn by having challenges. We fluctuate between the opposites until we find a balance. Leaning too far towards one side or the other is imbalanced. Until we are completely whole, which is when we are merged with Source or the One, we are in duality. Duality is about balance, not about completely eradicating positive or negative. Those of us who lean more to the positive seem to have more and more challenges from the negative polarity. This strengthens us ultimately.

[dianna]

… aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?






http://media.tumblr.com/c573883acf5b60f96cf5023cf3dad32b/tumblr_inline_n5mmd2UYDR1s6dnga.gif


Clearly, we have a long way to go...


Disgusted
Jake

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/fd/0d/comic,humor,meme,sex-fd0dd4a73b671baf6492118ad69ddea1_h.jpg?ts=93246

[Observer1964]

… aren't there some issues that men can work on without involving women or blaming them, or needing their kindergartenish behinds wiped by some mommy figure or other?






http://media.tumblr.com/c573883acf5b60f96cf5023cf3dad32b/tumblr_inline_n5mmd2UYDR1s6dnga.gif


Clearly, we have a long way to go...


Disgusted
Jake

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/fd/0d/comic,humor,meme,sex-fd0dd4a73b671baf6492118ad69ddea1_h.jpg?ts=93246

Noticing a certain problem in the relations between men and women and a possible relation to a controlsystem that made use of the same tactics is far from misogyny i think, but I thank you for youre reaction, but take it as evidence that the manipulation is working well.

[Violet]

There are enough men that would have qualified to receive such a reaction but I don't think Jake is one of them.

It's a bit unfortunate this discussion is taking such a bitter turn. And at the same time: it doesn't have to be that way.

Women may think that women defending men have lived on pink clouds all their lives but less is true, or so for me. I've witnessed the male in his most vile form, agressive, manipulative, lying, etc. and I've witnessed the woman in her most vile form, agressive (to such a degree it was embarrassing to have to acknowlegde that it's still a woman standing there), manipulative, lying, etc.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but as Nancy put it very well, it's about balance, losing it and then finding it again, and losing it again and finding it back. All the while respecting (as much as you can of course, some situations are inhumane) the persons you encounter on that journey as human beings in the first place.

Perhaps both the women and men in both camps (radical feminists & mysogynists) could use this opportunity to make polite suggestions as to what it is they miss in a man/woman and how improving that could make for better balancing. But before making any suggestions, both "camps' must of course ascertain that they themselves are willing to make a change before wanting to see changes in others.

[dianna]

OMG, I was just joking … hence, the laughing emoticons!?!

@Jake … apologies if you took my post to be anything other than "tongue in cheek"

(muy bad Jersey sense of humour):o

[Observer1964]

Good joke, u got me :o

[Natalia]

Just want to add how I am feeling and seeing part of this...

Men and women working together, it's not going to be all women, and it's not going to be all men...

People are going through their own healing journeys (as well as society as a whole), and some will be attracted to others and some will be (gently or violently) repelled away...it's about what fits...what works...and it's not personal...

My own (and not just mine) personal feeling and thought on this (and everything!) is that, love is the most important thing...

There are some of those men in my life now...and a few more will come, I can feel it...we fit, for where we are right now...

I feel peace and faith in that...and to not get into things that my inner feeling tells me not to...

There is a lot of healing needed and going on to do with this gender thing...the only positive way forward is to love each other and work together as a team...but because there is such huge variations in personalities, values, life experiences and priorities, this is something that is "not easy"...and I see/feel it being about it happening more and more...

What is it that is beyond ourselves, our pains, our fears, our insecurities, our opinions...what is the message there...?...

(This message is just for those who resonate with it in some way...)...