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EWO
17th December 2014, 04:59
We all know who holds the title of being the 1st man in space, Yuri Gagarin.
A few months ago I watched a conspiracy film about how Yuri never went to space.
I cant remember where I saw it but it goes like this.

Yuri enters the rocket.
The head of the program who may have been part of KGB, orders them to recheck the door seal.
For 40 min the cameras are OFF. Plenty of time for Yuri to exit and another astronaut take his place.
WHY? Insurance policy. If Yuri dies up there it would be embarrassing to USSR.
If the second guy dies, they just switch him with the alive Yuri and can still claim that he went into outer space.

I found this short film touches on the subject. I found it interesting and well made.
Not sure if there is any truth to it, but it makes sense.

http://vimeo.com/113455347?from=outro-embed

Yuri become the hero of USSR and was paraded like a celebrity.
He became a heavy alcoholic. He wanted to go back to flying airplanes but they would not let him, he was too important. Years later he become very problematic for the government. He may have even exposed some secrets he wasn't supposed to.
They finally allowed him to go back testing aircraft. On his first flight his plane crashed. They killed him. The cause of the crash that killed Gagarin is not entirely certain, and has been subject to speculation about conspiracy theories over the ensuing decades.

The same can be said about NASA moon landing. People claim it was fake, all filmed in a studio. Others say it was real. I think both are true. I think we went to the moon but as a insurance policy in case Apollo 11 failed they also filmed it in studio so they can pass it off as real.
When you invest billions of $$$ into a program like that, failure is not an option.

Ellisa
17th December 2014, 06:53
Poor Yuri! So brave--- and we who sit in our neat and comfy chairs deprive him of his courageous flight and gossip about his life.

How glad I am that I am not famous!

poetbil
17th December 2014, 08:51
Poor Yuri! So brave--- and we who sit in our neat and comfy chairs deprive him of his courageous flight and gossip about his life.

How glad I am that I am not famous!

Beethoven left "pur Elise " because of you ,
what about the left of us lol

ghostrider
17th December 2014, 18:42
there is a story of another person going into space at five years old ... he took pictures and has been meeting and traveling with ET's for over 70 years now ...

Gaia
17th December 2014, 22:44
You mean the Russian governement lied about stuff during the Cold War? :rolleyes:

Cardillac
18th December 2014, 00:33
if my read sources are correct Yuri Gagarin was not the first man in space but the first one to have survived re-entry; supposedly, a few months before, a man by the name of Illushyn (sp.?- but same spelling of the Russian plane manufacturer) was the first man in space but he did not survive re-entry;

and to muddy the waters even more: "supposedly" Gagarin met his demise testing an airplane that crashed (huh?- an astronaut/cosmonaut was de-moded to test airplanes?!);

my Russian co-worker stated that for decades a man in a mental institution in Russia claimed to be...Yuri Gagarin

Larry

Bill Ryan
18th December 2014, 00:41
if my read sources are correct Yuri Gagarin was not the first man in space but the first one to have survived re-entry; supposedly, a few months before, a man by the name of Illushyn (sp.?- but same spelling of the Russian plane manufacturer) was the first man in space but he did not survive re-entry;

and to muddy the waters even more: "supposedly" Gagarin met his demise testing an airplane that crashed (huh?- an astronaut/cosmonaut was de-moded to test airplanes?!);

my Russian co-worker stated that for decades a man in a mental institution in Russia claimed to be...Yuri Gagarin

Larry


Hi, Larry! You just beat me to it. :)

There's a very interesting article (or video, maybe) about this that I absorbed quite a few years back. I'd very much like to find it again.

I remember the Ilyushin story. It seemed credible. And there was another prior astronaut as well, I believe, who DID survive, but had his face badly disfigured by an accident with the capsule hatch after he had landed safely.

That successful flight was never announced, the claims went, because the Russians could not parade a badly disfigured man as their national hero. So they had to do the entire "first astronaut" thing all over again.

Bill Ryan
18th December 2014, 00:52
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Here ya go :)

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cosmonauts

2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7npNk3EGKBQ