Russian Ruble Collapses – Conspiracy Or Warning of Things To Come

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Russian Ruble Collapses – Conspiracy Or Warning of Things To Come

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/16/russian-ruble-collapses-conspiracy-or-warning-of-things-to-come/

[yelik]

On the face of it Russia is being forced into retaliation, or creating a false flag opportunity for cabal to release a nuke blamed on Russia; or the complete opposite where Russia and western cabal are orchestrating a NWO situation - no option should be dismissed out of hand when trying to consider the actions of the cabal, they're way ahead of most peoples thinking.

[Baby Steps]

Poor Russia has gone from Financial surplus to a greek-style scenario in under a year. Pension cuts. Mass unemployment, Health care cuts, hunger. Civil servants working un-paid. This is Putin's greatest test. USA calculates that this will not be enough to start a war of trigger some kind of catastrophic retaliation. But it might trigger a serious level of unrest in Russia- fertile ground for some Maidan style fascists to present themselves as the democratic rescuers. In the ensuing melt down, there could be civil war within Russia's borders - or serious strife. The place is full of old nukes.

However Russia might see war as a better alternative as per Japan 1941
See pdf
"The Japanese decision to initiate war against the
United States in 1941 continues to perplex. Did the
Japanese recognize the odds against them? How did
they expect to defeat the United States? The presumption
of irrationality is natural, given Japan’s acute imperial
overstretch in 1941 and America’s overwhelming
industrial might and latent military power. The
Japanese decision for war, however, must be seen in
the light of the available alternatives in the fall of 1941,
which were either national economic suffocation or
surrender of Tokyo’s empire on the Asian mainland.
Though Japanese aggression in East Asia was the root
cause of the Pacific War, the road to Pearl Harbor was
built on American as well as Japanese miscalculations,
most of them mired in mutual cultural ignorance and
racial arrogance."
I would add that it was built on America's calculations, not Mis-calculations.

28293
It is in Europe's and China's vital interests to help Russia maintain order. Any behaviour other than this by Europe is a big fat flag that the forces of chaos are controlling Europe already.

How did USA achieve this? There would be a cosy deal with Saudi/Qatar to open the taps. For what in return? How about a guarantee to keep Syria from piping Iraqi and Iranian oil to Europe?

My Russian friend says that the people in Russia are stoic & will weather this without a collapse, as they lived through the last one. He says that Swedes and Finns are rushing in to buy cars before the prices go up!
He says that the people agree with Putin's position with regard to security!

[sheme]

On the surface it would appear that America is poking the Bear knowing that she has advanced scalar weapons -previously used on American subs and aircraft in a claim from a convincing article I have just read- perhaps the Twin towers was a demonstration of what America has achieved weapon wise -set up to warn the Bear that the Eagle has a new toy.
The perfect scenario for the perfect depopulation weapon- they get to blame it on the bear, and it starts in central Europe.

[Olam]

Imagine this, even with its rapid decline, the Ruble is still in better shape than the dollar...

http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/surprise-guess-which-currency-has-stronger-fundamentals-the-dollar-or-ruble-15765/

[Deega]

I think that it's an orchestrated move by US, Saudi-Arabia, other US aligned producers to lower (inscrease the supply of oil) the price of oil, and since Russia is big producer of oil, money isn't coming in as when crude oil was in the 140$+ dollar a barrel. If the number are right, yesterday, the oil barrel was at 60$/barrel. No wonder Russia is having problems!

But maybe, there is other moves on the way by Russia and China, who knows!

http://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

[Calz]

... or ... just perhaps ... this all falls under the elite script???

Global economic collapse???

Global war???

USA needs to fall to usher in the one world gov???


Albert Pike anyone???


Rather entertaining ... but I do hope they don't abandon the holographic blue beam invasion ... that would be a real hoot!!!

[wishinshow]

Hopefully it will pressure Putin into breaking with his natural gas oligarchs and siding with the Russian military over the disclosure of new tesla energy technologies.

@calz I really pride myself on being completely paranoid. I just can't believe that Putin is Obama's handler and has tunnels from the US to Siberian death camps. It just sounds ludicrous to me.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes I have been watching this very closely..I somehow think the big bear has a few tricks up his sleeve.

See how it pans out.

Viking

[waves]

I wonder if it has anything to do with hitting the newly formed BRICS alliance quick across the knees in its formative stage.

[Cidersomerset]

Rocky Ruble Ride: Russian currency starts clawing back drastic losses

Ur2tidtKtKU

Published on 17 Dec 2014


The Russian ruble began to recover against the US dollar and euro early Wednesday, going some
way to compensate for a 20 percent drop in previous day. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/8cao3a

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[Cidersomerset]

There is some gamesmanship going on from both sides.....

Still to many Generals and not enough wars ....Me Thinks !!

Pentagon confirms military buildup along Russia borders for ‘peace & stability’

j41E0B6oXmo

Published on 17 Dec 2014


The Pentagon has confirmed the military buildup along Russia’s borders to
ensure long-term “peace and stability” in the region. Earlier Moscow accused
NATO of a sharp increase in air activity and intelligence flights in the border
zone. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6lqrmh


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Russian Army, Airforce, Navy hold drills on border with Europe

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Published on 16 Dec 2014


Russia's military has been carrying out rapid-deployment drills in the exclave of
Kaliningrad - the country's most Western region. The exercises involved thousands
of troops, marines, missile and artillery units. NATO has also held drills in Eastern
Europe over the last three months, close to Russian borders.

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[Baby Steps]

Yes I have been watching this very closely..I somehow think the big bear has a few tricks up his sleeve.

See how it pans out.

Viking

I think that Norway spiral was a 'shot across the bows' - Russia showing that they are still in the game.
But why bait the bear? How does it serve anybody?
When I see this it gives credibility to claims that tptb WANT a pre-emptive strike on the USA!
World gone mad.

[avid]

Do NOT believe the hype, the Russian money is OK! This is yet another media scam. The BRICS are good against the defunct dollar. Too many scams, so much trickery via the 'City of London', the other Feds 'capital', and the VATICAN fraudulences. What a terrible weft we weave. :(

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes I have been watching this very closely..I somehow think the big bear has a few tricks up his sleeve.

See how it pans out.

Viking

I think that Norway spiral was a 'shot across the bows' - Russia showing that they are still in the game.
But why bait the bear? How does it serve anybody?
When I see this it gives credibility to claims that tptb WANT a pre-emptive strike on the USA!
World gone mad.


Yep..i think the bear is a canny chess player and wont be baited..a master chess player.

Fun times...

lets hope check mate soon.

Viking

[DeDukshyn]

Let's all keep in mind the perspective on the original source of this article. It is an editorial piece written by a guy who sells stuff on his site.

The belief wars are in full swing ... the info wars are almost over ... It has been determined that belief is more powerful than any truth in getting extreme response without a real trigger or catalysts. I am not saying this article is 100% false, but don't believe anything, just consider everything.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Interesting read here...


Western Bankers Have Committed Two Acts of War Against Russia 
Dave Hodges | The Common Sense Show 
Dec 17, 2014 
http://bit.ly/1w0c7cA

[snip]

Ditching the Ruble marks a shift in Western banking strategy directed at the Russians. This change was necessitated because the West’s scheme to plunge the price of oil is not having an immediate effect on Russian economic actions. Although American consumers are reveling in their recent good fate with regard to the collapse of oil prices which have resulted in cheaper prices at the pump, there aresome very dire consequences attached to American consumer’s good fortune.

The price of a barrel of oil is reaching the point where it will not be cost efficient to even ship the oil because to ship the oil is becoming more costly than the middle men transporting agents can make. This will result in an artificial shortage of available gasoline. In the United States, shortages will soon appear and prices will spike to unimaginable levels.This will undoubtedly collapse our fragile economy.

The strategy of dropping oil prices in order to bring the Russians to their knees, will not work, says Walker Todd. In a reported conversation with my colleague, Paul Martin, Todd told Martin that the lowoil prices will not make Putin immediately blink because of (1) inflation and (2) Putin has a year’s reserve of oil and cash. In other words, the fuse has been lit for World War III.

Rolling Stones - Play With Fire with Lyrics 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeg-jT7MnEs

Viking

[andrewgreen]

Rather entertaining ... but I do hope they don't abandon the holographic blue beam invasion ... that would be a real hoot!!!

I had similar thoughts too although I had never before consciously accepted them until now :)

I have just been reading the US produced around 9 million barrels of oil a day in September 2014 up their with Saudi Arabia. However it exports very little, so isn't relying on income from oil. It currently imports an equal amount to which it produces but with domestic oil production increasing they are becoming more oil sustainable. The domestic production and relatively low cost of oil production meant America wouldn't be vulnerable to an global over supply and falling price of oil, particularly if it become too cheap for the middle men to ship. The recent upsurge in domestic production can't be a coincidence as the oil reserves must have been known about for some time.

Russia and her economy has become addicted to oil and the wealth it brings and had effectively toed the line of US foreign policy over recent years. They knew the US and her control over global oil supply due to its close links with Arab nations could seriously damage Russian economic development.

The incursion of the US into the Ukraine and pressing up against Russian borders came at a time when US domestic oil production had suddenly rapidly increased. Why they didn't do it at the time of the break up of the USSR when Russia was particularly weak is probably down to other pawns not being in place and/or a belief they had Russia where they wanted them. However America was now in a position to launch an all out oil war on Russia especially as the price of oil production in Russia is very high so even domestically supplied oil in Russia would be done so at a loss if oil prices plunge.

What happens next I have have no idea but like others have said Russia and China surely have some kind of plan. However it does seem to prove who controls the oil controls the world and that still appears to be the US.

[Baby Steps]

[QUOTE=HugoJudd;913404]Poor Russia has gone from Financial surplus to a greek-style scenario in under a year. Pension cuts. Mass unemployment, Health care cuts, hunger. Civil servants working un-paid. This is Putin's greatest test. USA calculates that this will not be enough to start a war of trigger some kind of catastrophic retaliation. But it might trigger a serious level of unrest in Russia- fertile ground for some Maidan style fascists to present themselves as the democratic rescuers. In the ensuing melt down, there could be civil war within Russia's borders - or serious strife. The place is full of old nukes.

However Russia might see war as a better alternative as per Japan 1941
See pdf
"The Japanese decision to initiate war against the
United States in 1941 continues to perplex. Did the
Japanese recognize the odds against them? How did
they expect to defeat the United States? The presumption
of irrationality is natural, given Japan’s acute imperial
overstretch in 1941 and America’s overwhelming
industrial might and latent military power. The
Japanese decision for war, however, must be seen in
the light of the available alternatives in the fall of 1941,
which were either national economic suffocation or
surrender of Tokyo’s empire on the Asian mainland.
Though Japanese aggression in East Asia was the root
cause of the Pacific War, the road to Pearl Harbor was
built on American as well as Japanese miscalculations,
most of them mired in mutual cultural ignorance and
racial arrogance."
I would add that it was built on America's calculations, not Mis-calculations.

28293
It is in Europe's and China's vital interests to help Russia maintain order. Any behaviour other than this by Europe is a big fat flag that the forces of chaos are controlling Europe already.

How did USA achieve this? There would be a cosy deal with Saudi/Qatar to open the taps. For what in return? How about a guarantee to keep Syria from piping Iraqi and Iranian oil to Europe?

FROM A RUSSIAN FRIEND:

"With the rouble sinking so fast everyone is buying new cars here these past two months - Nov/Dec.
Come Jan the new cars' prices will reflect new exchange rates, while salaries paid in roubles will stay the same or even get a cut at some places. The car market will somewhat die in Russia in 2015. Basically I now earn only 50 per cent of what I was getting in the summer - in terms of how much it is in Euros, USD or imported goods, or holidays abroad. The national currency loses value but the prices for the new cars (set in roubles) are still the same until the end of the year. And if converted to USD or Euro the cars cost half price now...if you know what I mean... Same with iphones, etc...so Finish and Swedes come with their Euros for bargain Xmas shopping b4 the prices get adjusted in 2015.

I bought me a car too this week...wasn’t really planning it but had to spend the cash quick and didn't have enough to buy anything more substantial, like an apartment... Well, Mum wanted a car - et voilà! :-)

I would not compare Russia to Japan in terms of cultural differences with the West and misjudging of intentions though. I think Russia reads the West well, however the outcomes of the current crisis might still be very tragic. I doubt there is a serious risk of political unrest in Russia itself, the chaos of the 90s is still fresh in the memory. Although beneficial for some, it doesn’t solve anything for the masses. People still remember the unproductive 90s nightmare.

The misjudging here is on the part of the West. Putin was always criticised in Russia (before the crisis and now) by your average folk for not taking advantage of the favourable conditions and developing the non-oil economy, improving medical services and education, streamlining government services, modernising infrastructure. There has been improvements but we should have done way more. Putin has been in charge for 15 years - it was a period of high oil prices but the economic miracle was happening anywhere else in the world but here. Therefore this massive criticism of him still remains and becomes more obvious in the current climate. However, the popularity of his foreign policy is not based on the fact that silly Russians are being fooled by evil Putin who creates an enemy from the West in order to divert the people's attention from the chronic internal problems. Yes, there is an element of him playing this card as all politicians do, but his unprecedented popularity on this front is because the people actually agree with him and his assessment of national security. Red lines have been crossed. Tough times ahead…"

Hi totally agree and I hope the basic people there can live through the tough times without allowing chaos to take hold, that is reassuring, they are stoic and I hope it holds together!

"Thank you!"

But it is a kind of attack. What can Putin do? There is nothing to gain by starting a war so what other options are there ? I would defend Russian economic management , if you have a petro economy the currency is too high to build up your manufacturing exports that is why industry is weak, but thankfully not too weak. Long term cheap oil and roubles would promote a manufacturing investment boom but that is not a short term solution, volatility is very destructive.

"In an attempt to stop the rouble collapsing the Central bank raised its so-called key rate (benchmark interest rate) from 10.5 per cent to 17 per cent on Tue night. It hasn't really worked so far http://www.ft.com/fastft/251541/post-251541 What does key rate of 17 per cent mean? It hopes that people will leave their money in the banks instead of exchanging them, but the cost of financing for developing the industry becomes unbearable especially for small and medium businesses which should be the foundation of flexible economy. As I said this tactic didnt stop the rouble yet though. In addition, now we are at the end of the year when many companies in Russia (including giant oil and gas companies) have to repay their debt to foreign financial institutions (in Euro or USD), so the demand for currency is high and in conjunction with everything else rouble is spiralling into the abyss."

If a car is made in Russia surely it's price would not have to double? Go lada!

"The truth is that we import hell of a lot of things which is embarrassing for the country which achieved some impressive technological capabilities in some areas and has a good scientific potential. The economy and public sector in Russia have a very long way to go. And I am afraid that corruption, laziness and bad management will haunt us forever. The diversion from the petro economy is essential. Will Russia learn its lesson hard way now? I doubt it.

We bought a Mitsubishi suv which should be alright for driving in the snow and not very wild off-road when necessary (Mum likes going to the woods for mushroom and berry-picking in the autumn). Where I live the majority of people have suvs or bigger 4x4s for the same reasons."

This cheap oil will hurt America too , it may drag on as china is slowing down

"Progress with Cuba is an interesting piece of news!"

[Cidersomerset]

If someone in manipulating the oil price to scupper the ruble
the North Sea oil investment could be in trouble as well.....

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18 December 2014 Last updated at 14:40

North Sea oil industry 'close to collapse'By Ben King

Economics reporter, BBC News


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Total's north sea oil rig

The UK's oil industry is in "crisis" as prices drop, a senior industry leader has told the BBC.

Oil companies and service providers are cutting staff and investment to save money.

Robin Allan, chairman of the independent explorers' association Brindex, told the
BBC that the industry was "close to collapse".

Almost no new projects in the North Sea are profitable with oil below $60 a barrel, he claims.

'Everyone is retreating'

"It's almost impossible to make money at these oil prices", Mr Allan, who is a
director of Premier Oil in addition to chairing Brindex, told the BBC. "It's a huge crisis."

Continue reading the main story Brent Crude Oil Futures $/barrel
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"This has happened before, and the industry adapts, but the adaptation is one
of slashing people, slashing projects and reducing costs wherever possible, and
that's painful for our staff, painful for companies and painful for the country.

"It's close to collapse. In terms of new investments - there will be none,
everyone is retreating, people are being laid off at most companies this
week and in the coming weeks. Budgets for 2015 are being cut by everyone."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30525539

[Baby Steps]

Have a little dip into the following:
"Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014 - (Sec. 3) States that it is U.S. policy to assist the government of Ukraine in restoring its sovereignty and territorial integrity in order to deter the government of the Russian Federation from further destabilizing and invading Ukraine and other independent countries in Eastern Europe and Central Asia."

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2828


This is the Congress telling the executive branch to actively provide resources (weapons) to assist Kiev to recover the parts it has lost ie RESUME HOSTILITIES including against RUSSIAN FORCES. This is Congress telling the Executive branch to start WW3. On what planet do they consider that they have such a mandate, and in what circumstances could this possibly serve the interests of the people?

[bogeyman]

An unstable Russia isn't a good thing, the consequences of it collapsing is dire let alone the stability of the Russian military and their weapons such as its nuclear arsenal

[Calz]

The level of insanity in DC is beyond words.

Simply amazing.


The good news is that the military isn't necessarily subservient to the politicians.


Hard to say how that flies in Ukraine where allegedly many from the west have been implanted in disguise.


I guess we will find out ....