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TargeT
18th December 2014, 02:41
Sony Hackers Have Over 100 Terabytes Of Documents. Only Released 200 Gigabytes So Far (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-sony-hackers-still-have-a-massive-amount-of-data-that-hasnt-been-leaked-yet-2014-12#ixzz3MDDGLXR7)

The "hackers" are now threatening to "blow up" theaters if the film is released... Sony has capitulated. (http://deadline.com/2014/12/sony-scraps-the-interview-1201328639/)


This is not only one of the biggest publicly released "hacks", but now also involves violence that seemingly points directly to North Korea as the perpetrator.


North Korea Behind Sony Hack: U.S. Officials
U.S. officials believe the North Korean government was behind the computer hacking attack on Sony Pictures Entertainment, a massive security breach that embarrassed several executives and led to the cancellation of the planned Dec. 25 release of "The Interview."

The officials told NBC News the hacking attack originated outside North Korea, but they believe the individuals behind it were acting on orders from the North Koreans.

"We have found linkage to the North Korean government," according to a U.S. government source.

The officials offered no further details. "The Interview" is a comedy starring Seth Rogen and James Franco that depicts a fictional assassination attempt on North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.

Sony on Wednesday dropped its plans to release the movie on Christmas Day after some of the country's largest theater chains said they were holding back or dropping the movie following threats of violence made by the same group that claimed it had hacked Sony, Guardians for Peace.

"Sony Pictures has been the victim of an unprecedented criminal assault against our employees, our customers, and our business," Sony said in a statement Wednesday, saying that it reached the decision after the top cinema chains pulled out. Regal, Cinemark, Carmike and Cineplex were among the chains that said it would not show the film on the planned Dec. 25 release, citing security concerns.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-behind-sony-hack-u-s-officials-n270451


This is, at this point, basically the cyber equivalent of an attack on our soil followed by threats of bombings by a heavily suspected nation state.

the way this situation is developing is very interesting, a lot of media coverage perhaps feeling out the reaction (which there doesn't seem to be much of one) and now the movie release is being canceled. With the entertainment industry being doggedly attacked like it is I can't wonder if public out cry is not far behind..

ThePythonicCow
18th December 2014, 02:54
This is not only one of the biggest publicly released "hacks", but now also involves violence that seemingly points directly to North Korea as the perpetrator.
Given the level of integrity usually displayed by our wonderful leaders ... I conclude that any one of 195 nations in the world might have been the source of these attacks (there are 196 nations total.)

Of course, on the basis of other common patterns, some of these 195 suspects are more suspect than others.

TargeT
18th December 2014, 03:57
This is not only one of the biggest publicly released "hacks", but now also involves violence that seemingly points directly to North Korea as the perpetrator.
Given the level of integrity usually displayed by our wonderful leaders ... I conclude that any one of 195 nations in the world might have been the source of these attacks (there are 196 nations total.)

Of course, on the basis of other common patterns, some of these 195 suspects are more suspect than others.

you can narrow the list down quite a bit more with this handy tool:

http://map.ipviking.com/

Yes, those are all live attacks, yes this is "real", there are IDS (Intrusion detection systems) installed at the major hubs around the world as a part of the Norse Viking project. (Of course they sell the specific detailed data)

you can see the attack destination countries and target countries, the US generally is #1 or #2 of BOTH categories; however it is rarely from military/government IP spaces (not that that means anything..).

Rocky_Shorz
18th December 2014, 04:29
Kansas is getting nailed from every direction since the Representative sellout tossed too big to fail banks on the welfare recipient list...

Koch headquarters and Citigroup...

I thought GoP loved Koch

Update - target is in St Louis, not Kansas

ThePythonicCow
18th December 2014, 04:34
you can see the attack destination countries and target countries, the US generally is #1 or #2 of BOTH categories; however it is rarely from military/government IP spaces (not that that means anything..).
The geographic location associated with an IP address might not be a reliable indicator of who is behind it ... it's too easy to rent computers, over the web, wherever you want.

Interesting map :). Since that Norse map is based on their honeypot network, I suppose it would only show attacks directed at regions or countries that did have participating nodes in the Norse honeypot network (which seems to be just the US and Russia, right now, as I type this.)

The IP geolocation might give us a clue as to who "they" want to blame however. For example, an unusually high percentage of the IP addresses that I see in our Avalon server's blocked IP logs (for dubious activity) are from the Ukraine. From which, I suspect that someone would like to blame the Ukraine for a hack attack at some point ... just a guess.

Right now, for the last 100 days, 6 of the top 10 most commonly seen IP geolocations in Avalon blocked IP logs are from the Ukraine, 1 from Texas, 2 from China and 1 from Russia. I like to tease Ilie that Texas is beating out Romania on this stat <grin>.

At times in the past, Kansas City, Kansas, USA was leading our Avalon "bad IP" charts, thanks to a particular vendor of cheap web servers there that apparently was easy to deal with over the web.

ghostrider
18th December 2014, 05:09
computer hacking is way beyond my level , is it possible a double agent or agents broke into the system and made it look like North Korea did the dirty deeds ???

Calz
18th December 2014, 05:13
is it possible a double agent or agents broke into the system and made it look like North Korea did the dirty deeds ???



... or with the insane level of nonsense and propaganda being spewed from western MSM simply a flat out lie ... business as usual ...

Craig
18th December 2014, 06:54
100 terabytes? What download speeds have they got? That would be years for me oh and the Isp fees

Rocky_Shorz
18th December 2014, 08:00
it was real, lasted for days, they had everything down, not even email in or out, hit at main hub right to the core system and memory, shredded to the point of full restore...

the middle east is getting down to setting up a nation, now the far east needs to start, and the only holdout is north korea...

is Ben right Korpan, or was it Japorea is being created, one is being rattled the other brought forward as a terrorist of Hollywood? Jew haters, guess we should bomb em if they don't agree...

seehas
18th December 2014, 08:29
100 terabytes? What download speeds have they got? That would be years for me oh and the Isp fees

Bandwith today is not a big deal anymore the machines hacker groups use are mostly exploited dedicated servers they sit directly behind a gigbitbackbone and the sony servers arent in lack of bandwith either.

Its not home pcs that transfer this data collect it on servers first then share it via torrent or what ever.

I love when the media talks about these so called hacking countrys in the 90s it was popular to scan russian ipsegments and exploit machines to use them as proxy because it was easy and there was a ton of insecure servers, hackers allways use several proxys so its impossible to easy determine where they come from simply an ip adress doesnt say anything.

Anchor
18th December 2014, 08:46
Not a company I would want to be the CSO of right now.... every single computer in Sony Pictures America was hacked, rendered useless and requiring a full rebuild. Pretty much ALL the data from the servers was stolen, and ALL the email.... A CSO's worst nightmare.

I recall around 2006 when Sony deployed a rootkit on a music CD once that was to infect peoples computers in order to prevent people ripping music CD's. They managed to infect a lot of customers PC's until Mark Russinovich discovered it and they had to eat crow and produce a toolkit for people to disinfect their computers. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal ]. The first toolkit they provided didnt do the job properly and eventually they had to release a proper toolkit that completely removed it - but even in doing this they required you give an email and added that to a marketing list.

What comes around goes around.

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/could-sony-hack-scare-other-companies-beefing-cybersecurity-n269196


"Forget juicy Hollywood gossip columns -- nothing could embarrass Sony Pictures executives like the company's recent hack, which has yielded reports of everything from racially offensive jibes to salary numbers.

For Sony, it's a public relations nightmare, and if the company blushes enough, the hack could push other companies to finally make upgrades to their own security.

"The size and scope of this compromise moves security concerns from the backroom to the boardroom," Craig Williams, security outreach manager at Cisco Talos, told NBC News. "If a CEO didn't understand why access control and encryption were important before, they do now."


For the rank-and-file employees who work at Sony Pictures and the many others who worked there at some point, beefed up security may come as too little, too late. Among the documents are email addresses, Social Security numbers, birth dates, and other personal information for thousands of employees and contractors, according to reports. Early this week, two separate pairs of former employees filed lawsuits saying Sony did not do enough to protect workers' personal information from hackers, the Associated Press reported."

giovonni
18th December 2014, 08:54
hmm ...

http://www.laweekly.com/imager/b/blog/5295983/b976/the-interview-2014-hd-2014-wallpapers-1.jpg?cb=1418865030

Via LAWeekly...

Pulling The Interview Is the End of Free Speech in Hollywood (http://www.laweekly.com/publicspectacle/2014/12/17/pulling-the-interview-is-the-end-of-free-speech-in-hollywood)

Sierra
18th December 2014, 08:57
Well, Sony should hack themselves and put "The Interview" out there, worldwide, for free lol.

Calz
18th December 2014, 08:59
Perhaps not the "end" rather a recalibration of measuring the possible consequences???

DNA
18th December 2014, 15:20
I wonder if sony is more concerned with further information being released via the hack than an actual bombing.

I'm thinking mk ultra mind controlled actors and state sponsored film making getting out would cause them to squirm.

Calz
18th December 2014, 15:52
Seems it has been pulled ...

Not sure what to make of that ...

SilentFeathers
18th December 2014, 15:53
In my opinion this whole story is so bizarre it almost seems like some kind of false flag joke being made up by a few morons and being taken over and escalated by some other morons to punish Sony for some reason.....cancel a fiction comedy movie that probably wouldn't of even raised any eyebrows considering what else is playing at the same time to compete with it?????????????

Seriously??????????????

N. Korea going to do 911 style attacks if it's shown????????????? Seriously???????

I'll just kick back and wait to see what kind of draconian legislation Washington comes up that'll restrict us here in the states from freely using the internet because of this...

ADDED:


U.S. law enforcement and intelligence officials have gathered sufficient evidence to determine with high confidence that the North Korean government is responsible, said another person, who wasn’t authorized to speak publicly. It’s not entirely clear whether operatives from the country carried out the hack or sponsored it, said the person, a U.S. official with knowledge of the investigation.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-12-17/u-dot-s-dot-said-set-to-blame-north-korea-for-sony-cyber-attack

I wonder if these "officials" used the same method for gathering evidence that they did to prove Russia downed MH17???????????????? or that a guy in a cave on the other-side of the world masterminded 911 using a walkie-talkie????????????

Wake up folk's...who could really actually do this and blame someone else for it and control the narrative all along????????????? (and get away with it)
Some stooge in N. Korea?????? I think not!

I'm surprised the state dept. hasn't produced a youtube video yet proving their case!!!!



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TargeT
18th December 2014, 17:50
In my opinion this whole story is so bizarre it almost seems like some kind of false flag

With the amount of media play it is getting... it's either that or an opportunity seized for some agenda.... not quite sure what yet though.

SilentFeathers
18th December 2014, 18:21
In my opinion this whole story is so bizarre it almost seems like some kind of false flag

With the amount of media play it is getting... it's either that or an opportunity seized for some agenda.... not quite sure what yet though.

The hack at first looked real, perhaps done by a few bored geeks etc., everything change my opinion on this matter when it started focusing on the Interview and N. Korea; the guardians of peace......etc., and now I'm even seeing the race card being played! (Denzel Washington gossip about being a black actor and shouldn't get lead roles because of his color!). sheesh! this is getting ridiculous like the sandy hook crap and other bs stunts that have been pulled.

Totally looks like a political false flag to me, someone in Hollywood (Sony) pissed somebody off, perhaps they are late sending their monthly contribution/support check to the democratic party.? or Sony accidently leaked that they were going to support Jeb Bush instead of Hillary in 2016! lol!

Carmody
18th December 2014, 19:07
you can see the attack destination countries and target countries, the US generally is #1 or #2 of BOTH categories; however it is rarely from military/government IP spaces (not that that means anything..).
The geographic location associated with an IP address might not be a reliable indicator of who is behind it ... it's too easy to rent computers, over the web, wherever you want.

Interesting map :). Since that Norse map is based on their honeypot network, I suppose it would only show attacks directed at regions or countries that did have participating nodes in the Norse honeypot network (which seems to be just the US and Russia, right now, as I type this.)

The IP geolocation might give us a clue as to who "they" want to blame however. For example, an unusually high percentage of the IP addresses that I see in our Avalon server's blocked IP logs (for dubious activity) are from the Ukraine. From which, I suspect that someone would like to blame the Ukraine for a hack attack at some point ... just a guess.

Right now, for the last 100 days, 6 of the top 10 most commonly seen IP geolocations in Avalon blocked IP logs are from the Ukraine, 1 from Texas, 2 from China and 1 from Russia. I like to tease Ilie that Texas is beating out Romania on this stat <grin>.

At times in the past, Kansas City, Kansas, USA was leading our Avalon "bad IP" charts, thanks to a particular vendor of cheap web servers there that apparently was easy to deal with over the web.

There are some outfits that sell 'pipe' in Texas. for example, my pipe, apparently enters and exits in Texas, as my supplier buys from someone in that state. My supplier is independent and smaller, so not a major. Smaller outfits need to buy their pipe from someone...so... odds are in favor of attacks being publicly emergent from a supplier with many buyers, many doors. (I'm just writing that for everyone else, so they know how such a thing can happen) my pipe personally enters from somewhere away from Texas, in the physical sense, but integrates with the greater 'net' in that given Texas locale)

My supplier shops by price, quality, etc,and this Texas thing may have changed by now, but having all the local data shipped to another location and then integrating with the larger net is not actually - unusual. But definitely not how people think it works, which is the why of my mention of this situation.

This may help people understand that seemingly physical origins... are not in any way truly indicative of actual origin, even in the simplest parameters.

For example, it has many times been speculated, in some of the alternative press, that some of the attacks coming from china can easily originate from elsewhere, via proxy control of 'local to china' computers. Ie, if I was running a large corporate hacking scheme, via a competive corporate office, I MIGHT consider running a PC network by viral insertion (of a control scheme), in another country, and then use that network...to try and defraud/damage/etc my competitors. To use it as an unidentified appendage to commit industrial espionage. Imagine, in that scenario, how likely actual international espionage is. For the most part, it is 100% likely and viable.

Most people know how computers work, just about as well as they know how their car works (less, actually-the computer is a mystery/black box). Which leaves the door wide open to fundamental manipulation of personal computers, on a grand scale.

Carmody
18th December 2014, 19:33
In my opinion this whole story is so bizarre it almost seems like some kind of false flag

With the amount of media play it is getting... it's either that or an opportunity seized for some agenda.... not quite sure what yet though.

As soon as the potential outcomes are laid out on a sheet, the potential origins and path should begin to take shape. viability of outcome sets is of course modeled on secondary event directive practicality, etc.

Sierra
18th December 2014, 20:26
In my opinion this whole story is so bizarre it almost seems like some kind of false flag

With the amount of media play it is getting... it's either that or an opportunity seized for some agenda.... not quite sure what yet though.

As soon as the potential outcomes are laid out on a sheet, the potential origins and path should begin to take shape. viability of outcome sets is of course modeled on secondary event directive practicality, etc.

I've heard that on the latest Illuminati event driven "calendar", it will be a N. Korea "event" used to trigger the doomsday scenario.

Always something...

Harley
18th December 2014, 21:11
Sony Hack Being Turned Into N. Korea False Flag By U.S.

Who Really Hacked Sony Pictures? (Hint: It Probably Wasn't North Korea)

North Korea was indeed responsible for the massive hack on Sony Pictures, according to officials from within the US government. This follows on from Sony cancelling the release of The Interview amid threats of further attacks from the hackers — including threats of terrorism against cinemas if they show the movie (which lampoons the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, or DPRK). While we obviously condemn the continued threats and release of private, non-newsworthy information, I would like to point out one thing: There is very little evidence that North Korea was actually behind the attack — which makes me wonder, a) Why is the US government fingering North Korea? and b) If it wasn’t North Korea, who hacked Sony Pictures?

Who framed North Korea?

From the outset, the only connection between the Sony Pictures hack and North Korea was The Interview, a comedy movie where Seth Rogen and James Franco assassinate Kim Jong-un. Now, North Korea was certainly upset about the movie — it complained about it to the UN back in July — but the hackers didn’t mention the movie at all in its original set of demands, which was emailed to Sony executives a few days before the hack went public. The famous Guardians of Peace image (below) didn’t mention the movie, either.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/sony-pictures-gop-warning-message-640x358.jpg
Sony Pictures, hacked by Guardians of Peace (GOP) warning message

The hackers only latched onto The Interview after the media spent a week prognosticating over the possibility of it being the driving force behind the hack. It wasn’t until December 8, at least a week after the Sony Pictures hack went public, that the attackers started using The Interview as leverage. If you had just hacked Sony, and the world media just gave you the perfect opportunity to shift the blame onto North Korea, wouldn’t you do the same thing?

There’s also the overall timeline of the hack to take into consideration. The hackers managed to exfiltrate around 100 terabytes of data from Sony’s network — an arduous task that, to avoid detection, probably took months. Given how long it would’ve taken to gain access to Sony Pictures, plus the time to exfiltrate the data, I think the wheels started turning long before North Korea heard about The Interview.

Even if we take the movie out of the equation, the hack just doesn’t feel like something that would be perpetrated by a nation state. The original warnings and demands feel like the attacker has a much more personal axe to grind — a disenfranchized ex employee, perhaps, or some kind of hacktivist group makes more sense, in my eyes.

An inside job?

So far, the sole purpose behind the Sony Pictures hack appears to be destruction — the destruction of privacy for thousands of employees, and the destruction of Sony’s reputation. Much in the same way that murder is a crime of passion, so was the hack on Sony Pictures. Bear in mind that the hackers gained access to almost every single piece of data stored on Sony’s network, including the passwords to bank accounts and other bits of information and intellectual property that could’ve been sold to the highest bidder. The hackers could’ve made an absolute fortune, but instead opted for complete annihilation. This all feels awfully like revenge.

Really, though, the biggest indicator that it was an inside job is that the malware used during the attack used hard-set paths and passwords — the attacker knew the exact layout of the Sony Pictures network, and had already done enough legwork to discover the necessary passwords. This isn’t to say that North Korea (or another nation state) couldn’t have done the legwork, but it would’ve taken a lot of time and effort — perhaps months or even years. A far more likely option is that the attack was carried out by someone who already had access to (or at least knowledge of) the internal network — an employee, a contractor, a friend of an employee, etc.

So, why’s the US pointing the finger at North Korea?

Late yesterday, the New York Times published a story citing “senior administration officials” that North Korea was “centrally involved” in the Sony Pictures hack. Unfortunately, the same officials don’t give any indication of how North Korea pulled off the attack. Presumably US intelligence found some signs that pointed to North Korea’s involvement — and hopefully we’re talking about tell-tale signatures that are more conclusive than the fact that the malware was written on a computer with the locale set to Korean (anyone can change the locale of their computer with a couple of clicks).

The other option is that the US government is just doing a bit of saber rattling — perhaps to see how the DPRK responds, or perhaps to justify some retaliation.

The NYT says that the White House doesn’t yet know how it will react. Presumably, if there’s any kind of public retaliation or condemnation, the evidence tying North Korea to the Sony hack will have to be released.

Who do I think hacked Sony Pictures? Well, I don’t think it was as simple or as clean cut as “North Korea did it.” I think we’re either looking at a loose-knit group of hackers/hacktivists (similar to Anonymous), or some kind of combination attack — perhaps someone on the inside opened the door for North Korea to get in, or alternatively a country like North Korea or China found a hole in Sony’s security and then passed that vulnerability along to some unaffiliated hackers.

In either case, we are almost certainly looking at an attacker that is massively tech savvy, but also superb at playing the internet/social media game. North Korea isn’t usually very good at either of these things — but who knows, maybe Kim Jong-un has whipped his cyber army into shape?

Source (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/196152-who-really-hacked-sony-pictures-it-probably-wasnt-north-korea?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ziffdavis%2Fextremetech+%28Extremetech%29&utm_content=FeedBurner+user+view)

Milneman
18th December 2014, 21:44
Well, Sony should hack themselves and put "The Interview" out there, worldwide, for free lol.

Well not for free, but it wouldn't be the first time someone pulled a stunt like this. I mean, think about it? Everyone is talking about this movie. I didn't know it existed until the news told me about it.

Sony, I suspect, is laughing all the way to the bank (and probably at us as well).

In this day and age, it is very easy for someone to cry wolf and for no one to notice it's a wolf doing the crying. ;)

Merry Christmas. ;)

Desire
18th December 2014, 22:53
Paul

What is you opinion of the New World Order? Just wondering

ThePythonicCow
19th December 2014, 02:51
Paul

What is you opinion of the New World Order? Just wondering

I don't have a useful answer to that question ...

TargeT
19th December 2014, 04:59
Paul

What is you opinion of the New World Order? Just wondering

I don't have a useful answer to that question ...

I was trying to figure out where it came from...

giovonni
19th December 2014, 19:54
:director: Lights, Camera, Action !

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/79854000/jpg/_79854490_025162556-1.jpg

Obama vows US response to Sony hack (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30555997)

giovonni
19th December 2014, 20:03
Still not sure about this one ...

The grapevine says this comedy was DOA ...

Corporate business has always kept strange bedfellows ?

Slorri
19th December 2014, 20:55
:director: Lights, Camera, Action !

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/79854000/jpg/_79854490_025162556-1.jpg

Obama vows US response to Sony hack (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30555997)

Notice these words:
"Americans cannot change their patterns of behaviour due to the possibility of a terrorist attack," he said. "That's not who we are, that's not what America is about."

It has become a compulsory pattern of behaviour: To create terror and blame others for it.

giovonni
19th December 2014, 21:20
It has become a compulsory pattern of behaviour: To create terror and blame others for it.

Of course that's your opinion ... :)

giovonni
19th December 2014, 22:04
the latest ...

Hackers to Sony: We'll stand down if you never release the movie (http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/19/media/insde-sony-hack-interview/index.html)

Hanson
19th December 2014, 22:13
North Korea was indeed responsible for the massive hack on Sony Pictures, according to officials from within the US government. --- by Sebastion Anthony (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/196152-who-really-hacked-sony-pictures-it-probably-wasnt-north-korea)
Would these be the same U.S. officials who told us about Iraq's WMDs, Saudi hijackers armed with box-cutters, Boston Marathon bombers, Aurora cinema shooters, and Sandy Hook child killers?

giovonni
19th December 2014, 22:42
Thanks ...

It's always good to distinguish between the US government and its private citizens when making broad statements.

TargeT
20th December 2014, 01:35
Obama vows US response to Sony hack (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30555997)


"we" (the US) are threatening a Cyber response..... not a conventional one, this is the first openly admitted, or threatened "cyber action" I've heard of from the US... and I work in a Cyber Defense position win in the military.

From my perspective this is a highly interesting move and not at all a good one for the population of the world....

Anchor
20th December 2014, 02:41
Obama vows US response to Sony hack (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30555997)


"we" (the US) are threatening a Cyber response..... not a conventional one, this is the first openly admitted, or threatened "cyber action" I've heard of from the US... and I work in a Cyber Defense position win in the military.

From my perspective this is a highly interesting move and not at all a good one for the population of the world....

If it is a cyber response - what would be the target, do the NK people have much that can be hit? Shall we stop them releasing a film about something !

Wind
20th December 2014, 02:41
Sony 'will not drop' North Korea film The Interview (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169)

"Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release the film satire the Interview, after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on North Korea."

giovonni
20th December 2014, 04:15
Obama vows US response to Sony hack (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30555997)


"we" (the US) are threatening a Cyber response..... not a conventional one, this is the first openly admitted, or threatened "cyber action" I've heard of from the US... and I work in a Cyber Defense position win in the military.

From my perspective this is a highly interesting move and not at all a good one for the population of the world....

If it is a cyber response - what would be the target, do the NK people have much that can be hit? Shall we stop them releasing a film about something !


Obviously your not quoting me (personally) gentlemen ...
i don't work for the government (or any corporate or banking interest) do either of you ... giggle :)

PS ~ just joking of course.

TargeT
20th December 2014, 04:28
"we" (the US) are threatening a Cyber response..... not a conventional one, this is the first openly admitted, or threatened "cyber action" I've heard of from the US... and I work in a Cyber Defense position win in the military.

From my perspective this is a highly interesting move and not at all a good one for the population of the world....

If it is a cyber response - what would be the target, do the NK people have much that can be hit? Shall we stop them releasing a film about something !

a very good question, what exactly would the target be, especially since there is no "hard evidence" (that I can see) of who exactly this is (circumstantial evidence aside).


I see an expansion into a domain that (frankly) the US is QUITE weak in world wide...

This could be a big thing, or another Sandy Hook (a failed attempt that did not garnish much of anything).


we shall see; I think the awakening populace is harder to fool than this, and even though it was a direct attack on our entertainment industry (the "sweet spot" for the masses) I don't know that it's getting much traction (I don't think it is).

giovonni
20th December 2014, 04:32
The world is (and has been) for (over) the last 65 years been a very dangerous place for all the world's populations.

noxon medem
20th December 2014, 05:02
..
- Congratulations to Sony, and associates .
(this is) A very good PR-campaign indeed ....
& when the movie, finaly (!) (sigh ..).
is released, soon, and it will soon be,
it is guaranteed a very nice box office profit,
from all that media attention, non .?.

;- )

giovonni
20th December 2014, 05:15
will share this here ...


Axis Of Lies: Obama, North Korea & Australian Terror Attack Decoded

Sean Stone with Patrick Henningsen

"The Australian hostage situation in Sydney and unusual circumstances around Sheikh Monis’ connections to the Iranian and Australian government, plus the possibility of him being a patsy to enact more anti-terror legislation in Australia is discussed. We also talk about the Sony hack, and the US government’s pinning the blame on the North Korean government in spite of Kim Jong Un not taking responsibility for the act. Possible motives for cancelling the release of the film, and the free speech mess that has been raised by the scandal are explored with Patrick Henningsen in this Buzzsaw interview, hosted by Sean Stone."


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Patrick Henningsen is a geopolitical analyst and founder of 21st Century Wire.com. A graduate Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, CA, he was working as a graphic artist, communications and PR consultant before he became active as an artist and co-founder of an international art movement, Chalk4Peace, advocating for the peace in the run-up to the Iraq War in 2003. Later he began writing as an independent blogger in 2005, and has since produced an impressive range of work as both a writer and documentary filmmaker, and news correspondent on the ground covering events in the US, Europe and Middle East. Patrick has worked up close on a number of controversial stories including the Syrian Civil War (Beirut 2013) UN's Copenhagen Climate Summit (2009), Cyprus banking collapse (2013), G8 London protests (2009), Operation Fast and Furious (2012), the Obama 'Birther' Scandal (2012), the 'War on Terror' and location work in the Middle East (2008-2013). Patrick is recognised by audiences for his ability to relate and contextualise current events within trends and epochs, and to demystify complex systems in a way that makes sense to viewers and readers, as well as applying 'game theory' as a tool to understand international geopolitics.

Published on Dec 19, 2014

note Sony/North Korean portion begins at 13 minute mark


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTTyeKTO09Y

giovonni
20th December 2014, 13:13
the latest hype ...

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/79860000/jpg/_79860817_025162076-1.jpg

From the BBC

North Korea seeks join probe with US on Sony hack (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30560712)

Carmody
20th December 2014, 17:57
:director: Lights, Camera, Action !

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/79854000/jpg/_79854490_025162556-1.jpg

Obama vows US response to Sony hack (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30555997)

Notice these words:
"Americans cannot change their patterns of behaviour due to the possibility of a terrorist attack," he said. "That's not who we are, that's not what America is about."

It has become a compulsory pattern of behaviour: To create terror and blame others for it.

Yes people! Act, be, live and move as normal, while your corporate government changes everything!

KiwiElf
21st December 2014, 07:30
Just some thoughts...

Why is SONY being criticised, when in fact, it was the movie theatres who refused to play it? - (and imagine the potential fallout had they played it, and then someone DID let a bomb off in a theatre(s), Bali-bombing style - we'd never hear the end of it!

Where's the real evidence that it was North Korea? Nth Korea is denying it all the way and even publicly offering (apparently) to assist the US in an investigation... instead of their more typical blustering, taking responsibility for it, & bragging about it. That, and suddenly they've become the best hackers - (or at least durrned gooood) - on the planet???

The Cabal voicing their opinion publicly, possibly represented in the strongest form as Obama? (Followed by the usual mouthpieces of the MSM Media, & hollywood, particularly FOX & CNN, opinioned by a large assortment of popular actors)...

I'm reminded that whatever the MSM is hammering these days is more than likely:

1. a false flag/psy-op/mind control;
2. Distraction
3. Lies & speculation mixed with a few truths (very few); &
4. If it [the criticism] originated from a cabal-Source, then likely, the opposite is true.
5. ALL OR ANY OF THE ABOVE ... & OTHERS :)

Maybe SONY, just gave the finger, to the elite.! (maybe ;)... but that's just one possibility among thousands)

Desire
21st December 2014, 23:46
This is not only one of the biggest publicly released "hacks", but now also involves violence that seemingly points directly to North Korea as the perpetrator.
Given the level of integrity usually displayed by our wonderful leaders ... I conclude that any one of 195 nations in the world might have been the source of these attacks (there are 196 nations total.)

Of course, on the basis of other common patterns, some of these 195 suspects are

more suspect than others.
I don't appreciate your arrogance

Desire
21st December 2014, 23:54
That is an excuse

Desire
21st December 2014, 23:58
Paul

What is you opinion of the New World Order? Just wondering

I don't have a useful answer to that question ...

that is an excuse

thunder24
22nd December 2014, 00:00
Paul

What is you opinion of the New World Order? Just wondering

I don't have a useful answer to that question ...

that is an excuse

desire, what is your opinion of the new world order?

Hanson
22nd December 2014, 00:01
Given the level of integrity usually displayed by our wonderful leaders ... I conclude that any one of 195 nations in the world might have been the source of these attacks (there are 196 nations total.)

Of course, on the basis of other common patterns, some of these 195 suspects are more suspect than others.
Which nation could NOT be the source of these attacks, and what are your reasons for this conclusion?

Desire
22nd December 2014, 00:03
Paul

What is you opinion of the New World Order? Just wondering

I don't have a useful answer to that question ...

that is an excuse

desire, what is your opinion of the new world order?

The NWO is the takeover of individuality.

thunder24
22nd December 2014, 00:17
Paul

What is you opinion of the New World Order? Just wondering

I don't have a useful answer to that question ...

that is an excuse

desire, what is your opinion of the new world order?

The NWO is the takeover of individuality.

thanks, how does that relate to sony hack?

Desire
22nd December 2014, 00:39
Paul

What is you opinion of the New World Order? Just wondering

I don't have a useful answer to that question ...

that is an excuse

desire, what is your opinion of the new world order?

The NWO is the takeover of individuality.

thanks, how does that relate to sony hack?

sony shows the movie ,everone gets upset and another excuse for war.

giovonni
22nd December 2014, 03:56
hmm ...

Newsflash: George Clooney doesn’t know N. Korea hacked Sony (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/12/20/newsflash-george-clooney-doesnt-know-n-korea-hacked-sony/)

by Jon Rappoport

Harley
22nd December 2014, 04:17
One thing's for sure.

It sure was an effective way to cancel a crap satirical movie that was sure to cost Sony some major embarrassment.

giovonni
22nd December 2014, 04:54
Still not sure about this one ...

The grapevine says this comedy was DOA ...

Corporate business has always kept strange bedfellows ?


One thing's for sure.

It sure was an effective way to cancel a crap satirical movie that was sure to cost Sony some major embarrassment.

When it comes to Corporate/Hollywood following (a) script ...
It is not embarrassment, but rather the bottom line that hurts them the most.

giovonni
22nd December 2014, 12:34
http://www.trbimg.com/img-549645d4/turbine/la-fi-ct-sony-future-20141221-001/500/500x281

Sony Pictures hack fuels speculation about studio's possible sale (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-fi-ct-sony-future-20141221-story.html#page=1)

Harley
22nd December 2014, 21:50
Still not sure about this one ...

The grapevine says this comedy was DOA ...

Corporate business has always kept strange bedfellows ?


One thing's for sure.

It sure was an effective way to cancel a crap satirical movie that was sure to cost Sony some major embarrassment.

When it comes to Corporate/Hollywood following (a) script ...
It is not embarrassment, but rather the bottom line that hurts them the most.

That's pretty much what I was referring to ...
Embarrassment at the Box Office.
:)

Anchor
23rd December 2014, 00:56
This news is a bit old, but I didnt see it until today which suggests that Sonys internal security practices were not exactly the highest quality....

If any of you readers are pro Infosec people, be warned this might make you cringe.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/it-gets-worse-the-newest-sony-data-breach-exposes-thousands


It Gets Worse: The Newest Sony Data Breach Exposes Thousands Of Passwords

Excel and Word documents plainly expose thousands of computer log-in, financial, and web services passwords, including the Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and MySpace passwords for hundreds of major motion picture accounts.

Wind
23rd December 2014, 09:59
The empire strikes back...

North Korea partially back online after internet collapse (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30584093)

Some internet services have been restored in North Korea after an almost unprecedented internet outage, amid a cyber security row with the US.

"Though there has been no comment from the authorities in Pyongyang, US experts reported the restoration.

Some analysts say the country's web access was cut entirely for a time.

Washington said it would launch a proportional response to a cyber-attack on Sony Pictures, which made a comedy about North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

Officials would not comment on any US involvement in the current outages.

Meanwhile, China's permanent representative to the United Nations has called for all sides to avoid an escalation of tension on the Korean Peninsula after the UN security council put the North's human rights record on its agenda."

giovonni
23rd December 2014, 12:47
The empire strikes back...

North Korea partially back online after internet collapse (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30584093)

Some internet services have been restored in North Korea after an almost unprecedented internet outage, amid a cyber security row with the US.

"Though there has been no comment from the authorities in Pyongyang, US experts reported the restoration.

Some analysts say the country's web access was cut entirely for a time.

Washington said it would launch a proportional response to a cyber-attack on Sony Pictures, which made a comedy about North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

Officials would not comment on any US involvement in the current outages.

Meanwhile, China's permanent representative to the United Nations has called for all sides to avoid an escalation of tension on the Korean Peninsula after the UN security council put the North's human rights record on its agenda."

in my opinion ...

could be North Korea just messing around ...

though in order to pull such a plug ... could only have come from one wall socket ...

the other ...

Great Empire

http://raafayawan.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/c0f77-c4.jpg

giovonni
23rd December 2014, 18:26
the hype goes on ...

http://timsfilmreviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/black-and-red-cinema-screenb.jpg

From the BBC

The Interview: US cinemas to screen Sony film on Christmas Day (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-30589472)

TargeT
23rd December 2014, 18:44
This news is a bit old, but I didnt see it until today which suggests that Sonys internal security practices were not exactly the highest quality....

If any of you readers are pro Infosec people, be warned this might make you cringe.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/it-gets-worse-the-newest-sony-data-breach-exposes-thousands


It Gets Worse: The Newest Sony Data Breach Exposes Thousands Of Passwords

Excel and Word documents plainly expose thousands of computer log-in, financial, and web services passwords, including the Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and MySpace passwords for hundreds of major motion picture accounts.

Hard not to see that as "job security" really...

I just got back from 16 days of Cyber Defense training, we discussed this quite a bit.

Currently most industries and even the government view "Cyber Security" as a "cost" and it gets barely any attention... the amount of successful attacks are FAR under-reported, we are basically hemorrhaging information from the US to (mostly) china and the rest of the world.

giovonni
25th December 2014, 15:17
a Hollywood ending ... (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/new-study-adds-to-skepticism-among-security-experts-that-north-korea-was-behind-sony-hack/?_r=0)

The Interview has a Merry Christmas


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGJPiJByJJk

TargeT
25th December 2014, 19:51
I just watched the movie (see it here: https://www.seetheinterview.com/ for $6)

I think that this is a combination of false flag (the hacks) and opportunistic motives (releasing the movie online, in a distribution format that WILL be the future of movie releases.. possibly a brilliant move by sony, the numbers will tell)

I'm not exactly sure of the motives on this one, obviously the whole of North Korea lost internet (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/23/world/asia/attack-is-suspected-as-north-korean-internet-collapses.html?_r=0) connectivity recently in a very strange "coincidence" (which is still on going (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/23/world/asia/north-korea-internet/index.html)) but the ultimate motives are still questionable in my mind.


CNN aired interviews with two "professionals" that basically stated that "a 14 year old kid" could have taken out all of North Korea's Internet (impossible by the way...) so the propaganda has started on our end and it seems clear that they will try to put some "protective measures" in place in the future based on this situation (while sticking with the Hegelian dialect: Problem-Reaction-Solution)... This is what I'll be watching for based on the recent propaganda (err.. MSM) outlet messages.
I wouldn't call this situation closed just yet.

(by the way, the movie wasn't terrible, if you have seen an Seth Rogan comedies before you won't be overly surprised... I personally enjoyed it).

giovonni
25th December 2014, 20:03
I just watched the movie (see it here: https://www.seetheinterview.com/ for $6)

I think that this is a combination of false flag (the hacks) and opportunistic motives (releasing the movie online, in a distribution format that WILL be the future of movie releases.. possibly a brilliant move by sony, the numbers will tell)

I'm not exactly sure of the motives on this one, obviously the whole of North Korea lost internet (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/23/world/asia/attack-is-suspected-as-north-korean-internet-collapses.html?_r=0) connectivity recently in a very strange "coincidence" (which is still on going (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/23/world/asia/north-korea-internet/index.html)) but the ultimate motives are still questionable in my mind.

I wouldn't call this situation closed just yet.

(by the way, the movie wasn't terrible, if you have seen an Seth Rogan comedies before you won't be overly surprised... I personally enjoyed it).

Good summation ...

And yes i heard it wasn't too bad ... giggle :)

Happy Holidays TargeT !

Wind
27th December 2014, 17:27
oUdGIAsjo_Q

And... North Korea's Internet and Mobile Phone Network 'Paralyzed' (http://gizmodo.com/north-koreas-internet-and-mobile-phone-network-paralyze-1675539708) again, after an unnamed official spokesperson said in a racist statement through North Korea's KCNA news agency on Saturday: "Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest,".

DeDukshyn
27th December 2014, 20:32
... but the ultimate motives are still questionable in my mind ...


Here's one ...

USA intelligence wants to hack NK:

Problem --> NK caused one of the years most awaited movies at the most awaited time of the year to be rendered "unreleaseable", because "NK threatened us if we do"
Reaction --> Masses angry at NK and are wooed into a position of feeling a need to "win" the "cyberwar"
Solution --> US intelligence can hack the crap out of NK and no one will give a rats ass.


Another thought I have is that Sony has secrets ... big secrets, that may or may not be able to be indicated to by the 1.3 terabytes (or whatever it was) of data that was stolen from Sony. Sony is scared ****less - which explains the extremely weird bowing to demands. I mean we don't bow to terrorists demands after they steal hundreds of women and children, but we will buckle as soon as a movie gets stolen through the internet. How's that for perspective?

Evidence for Sony Murdering Michael Jackson (and/or other similar scenarios) just may well exist within that 1.3 terabytes of data ... just a thought ;) The fact that Sony and MJ were at incredible odds is not a secret: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F3t2Gc0Qpo - so there was even a motive ...

I got the torrent in 1080 last night - haven't watched it yet though but it looks enjoyable :)

KiwiElf
29th December 2014, 00:42
Saw the movie last night - nothing to rave about, quite funny in places. But putting the shoe on the other foot, I doubt it would have created as much interest without all the fanfare. (Or more bluntly, if another nation had done a similar type of movie, but this time with the victim being say, Netanyoohoo or Obama???)

It wouldn't be the first time that a relatively mediocre movie/book has done extraordinarily well simply because someone created a big fuss about it.

Veterans Today's take on it:


SONY’s release of “The Interview”: Setting up North Korea as Patsy for Assassinating Obama?

Posted by Jim Fetzer on December 27, 2014

Zionist-controlled Hollywood Goes Sinister with Israel Setting up Kim Jong Un as Future Lee Harvey Oswald

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/27/sonys-release-of-the-interview-setting-up-north-korea-as-the-patsy-for-assassinating-obama/

Something was wrong with this picture (both literally and figuratively): a comedy about the assassination of the young and inexperienced leader of North Korea, Kim Jong-un, who, like JFK, has his head blown apart, in this case when a missile hits the helicopter he is hanging onto! The methods differ, but the outcome is the same.

During an interview with Press TV, I explained that this was a “colossal act of stupidity” which could have unforeseen consequences and that the cyber attack on SONY may not have come from North Korea but from inside sources because of a strenuous conflict that has arisen between SONY Japan and SONY Hollywood.

Wayne Madsen, for example, has explained that SONY Japan was upset with SONY Hollywood because Japan is engaged in sensitive negotiations with North Korea over the release of 840 Japanese prisoners North Koren has been holding for decades and was profoundly concerned that the film might scuttle the process.

New information identifies a source within SONY, known as “Lena”, as an insider who was in the perfect position to pull this off. And the film itself might not be an act of such stupidity if it were being used to set up North Korea to play “the patsy” for Israel when it takes advantage of these circumstances to take out Barack Obama.

My initial reaction to the film
My interview with Press TV would be published on Wednesday, 24 December 2014, at 7:30AM GMT. But the final question I was asked by the host (about who controls what happens in Hollywood) caused me to give this further thought: It is well known that Hollywood is under the control of studio heads who have close ties to Israel.

(Refer to the Press TV interview: “Act of colossal stupidity”)

An analyst says the making of a comic movie by a US entertainment company about the fictional assassination of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was a “colossal act of stupidity,” Press TV reports.

James Fetzer, a professor at the University of Minnesota Duluth, told Press TV that the production of the film “The Interview” by Sony Pictures was also provocative.

“The creation of this movie from the beginning was a colossal act of stupidity and I can’t believe that Sony is going forward with its release under these circumstances,” he said, after the US company announced it would release the movie.

He further said that Hollywood is now very much under the influence of the Zionists.

US officials say Pyongyang targeted Sony Pictures in a hacking attack to halt the planned release of the movie. North Korea denied any involvement in the cyber attack and proposed a joint investigation with Washington.

The hack, which has been described as the most devastating cyber attack on a US business, has paralyzed Sony Pictures and led to the cancellation of the screening of the controversial movie.

The hackers threatened 9/11-style terrorist attacks on the US movie theaters screening “The Interview.”

It wasn’t North Korea

The FBI and President Obama were quick to conclude that the hacking had been done by North Korea, but they based their conclusion on feeble evidence and presumptions that have not been borne out. An excellent analysis of the flaws in their reasoning has been published in The Daily Mail (Updated: 15:04 EST, Friday 26 December 2014):

A growing number of cybersecurity experts are coming forward to say that North Korea and their leader Kim Jong-un (above) could not have been behind the Sony hack

Too strong: This after President Obama (above) said in a news conference on Friday that the United States would retaliate following North Korea’s actions

The problems with the FBI’s investigation are best explained by Marc Rogers in an article he wrote for The Daily Beast. Working as both the director of security operations for DEF CON, the world’s largest hacker conference, and the principal security researcher for the world’s leading mobile security company, Cloudflare, Rogers may be one of the foremost experts when it comes to hacking.

The first FBI claim that Rogers tears down also happens to be one the strongest that the FBI has, saying in their statement; ‘The malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed.’

There are two problems with this interpretation, according to Harris, both of which have to do with the bureau basing its findings on assumptions as opposed to facts:

First, while a similar malware may have been used in a previous cyber attack that North Korea has been linked to, that does not serve as definitive proof that this attack was carried out by North Korea.

Harris then further chips away at this statement, pointing out that he and many security experts do not believe North Korea was involved in those previous incidents, whose coding the FBI is referencing to tie the attacks together.

What’s more, the coding for one of the two malwares, Shamoon, was leaked according to Harris, and would not be difficult for any hacker to find.

He then takes aim at the FBI conclusion that since the IP addresses used in the attack are addresses used by North Korea in previous attacks, they must be responsible.

According to Harris, the reasoning is flawed as these addresses are used by everyone from major hackers to even small time Internet criminals to avoid detection, meaning these addresses could tie virtually anyone in the hacking community, or even someone using stolen credit cards to shop online and avoid detection, to the attack.

Then, there is the fact that the demand by the hacking group, who call themselves the Guardians of Peace, that the The Interview not be released was not announced until weeks into the hack, and only after some members of the media had begun to perpetuate the now widely accepted story that the goal of the hack was to make sure The Interview would never be distributed by Sony.

Hacking group motive contrived

A convenient story
Moreover, many skeptics have been pointing out that North Korea’s alleged motivation was discussed in publications by some media outlets before the group that was allegedly responsible for hacking SONY advanced it, which makes it an “all too convenient story”. Consider, for example, what several cyber security experts have had to say about this:

Kurt Stammberger, a senior vice president with cyber security firm Norse, echoed many of Harris’ statements in a separate interview, and said that given the severity of the hack it had to have been an inside job.

Stammberger, whose company decided to carry out their own independent investigation, told CBS News; “We are very confident that this was not an attack master-minded by North Korea and that insiders were key to the implementation of one of the most devastating attacks in history.”

That’s not all either, as he says their research seems to be pointing them towards a woman named “Lena” who even claims be a member of Guardians of Peace.

“This woman was in precisely the right position and had the deep technical background she would need to locate the specific servers that were compromised,’ revealed Stammberger.

A deeper, darker alternative

Under the circumstances, there are more and less sinister interpretations of what is going on here. The more innocuous would be that the hype is calculated to draw crowds into theaters for a mediocre film that otherwise would not do well. That, of course, would be par for the course in Hollywood: the greater the hype, the greater the payoff!

Given the domination of Hollywood studios by persons with strong affinities to Israel, however, there is another, overwhelmingly more troubling possibility: that the plan is to put the patsy in place–just as Lee Harvey Oswald was positioned at the Texas School Book Depository–before taking out the President of the United States, Barack Obama.

It turns out that the PM of Israel made a very strange reference to “the grassy knoll” of the assassination of JFK in a speech to the Kinesset, which appears to have been in retaliation for a reference to him as “chicken****” by a senior Obama administration official, which apparently was not received with pleasure by Benjamin Netanyahu:
PM shoots down PresidentShould this be taken seriously?

As Justin Raimondo has written, “The scandal was created, unsurprisingly, by Israel’s semi-official flack-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, a former Israeli prison guard turned journalist, whose pronouncements carry the authority of someone with impeccable connections in both Tel Aviv and Washington. Writing in The Atlantic, he reports:

“The other day I was talking to a senior Obama administration official about the foreign leader who seems to frustrate the White House and the State Department the most. ‘The thing about Bibi is, he’s a chicken****’ this official said …”

A more complete account of what was said also appears in the same article as follows:

“’The good thing about Netanyahu is that he’s scared to launch wars,’ the official said, expanding the definition of what a chicken**** Israeli prime minister looks like. ‘The bad thing about him is that he won’t do anything to reach an accommodation with the Palestinians or with the Sunni Arab states. The only thing he’s interested in is protecting himself from political defeat. He’s not [Yitzhak] Rabin, he’s not [Ariel] Sharon, he’s certainly no [Menachem] Begin. He’s got no guts.’”

Andrew Adler, the Editor of The Jewish Times, a mainstream Jewish publication, has called for the Mossad to assassinate the President of the United States, because Obama has not been sufficiently committed to the safety and security of Israel. He even writes, as the third of three options for Israel to defend itself, that Netanyahu should do this:

“[G]ive the go-ahead for U.S-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.”

I wish I could say that there is no good reason to believe that might come to pass. But the Prime Minister of Israel is notoriously thin-skinned and surely resents being described as “chicken****” by one of the Obama administration’s highest officials. What better way to show “he has guts” than by taking him out?

Indeed, the most important condition for actually assassinating the President of the United States has already been put in place with the creation of a most conspicuous international patsy, Kim Jong-un. I would like to believe that the Secret Service will protect Barack Obama, but they were also “on the job” in Dallas.

About Author

Jim Fetzer
A former Marine Corps officer, Jim Fetzer has published widely on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and evolution and mentality.

McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, he has also conducted extensive research into the assassination of JFK, the events of 9/11, and the plane crash that killed Sen. Paul Wellstone.

The founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, his latest books include The Evolution of Intelligence (2005), The 9/11 Conspiracy (2007), Render Unto Darwin (2007), and The Place of Probability in Science (2010).

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Matisse
29th December 2014, 01:27
IMHO this whole thing smells a false flag.... a movie that probably would have gotten very little notice is now the talk of the day...
sony cancels the reléase then releases it (to protect freedom of speach) or to make a lot of money... while the PTB gets to ciber attack
north korea.... seems like a win win situation for some...

giovonni
30th December 2014, 15:38
ya think ...

Was SONY HACKED by 'LAID-OFF STAFF' ?

Harley
30th December 2014, 23:46
From the start of this "breaking news" I never believed it was a North Korea thing. Nor did I believe it was a China thing or an 'anyone else' thing. And while I do believe it was an inside job, I also do not believe it was a 'disgruntled employee(s)' thing.

On Dec 24th, the day before the planned opening of this movie, I wrote a post regarding this story but never posted it. The reasons why I decided not to post it at the time were that I was very sick (starting about a week before and ending in pneumonia), the theories were running rampant, and I simply didn't feel like dealing with it all.

Today it's being reported all over the MSM that some cyber security experts say North Korea didn't do it, that "Kim Jung-un has been made a fall guy", and that the FBI are being briefed on this.

Here is an excerpt from an article written by DEFENSETECH (http://defensetech.org/2014/12/29/experts-north-korea-may-not-have-hacked-sony-after-all/):


Experts: North Korea May Not Have Hacked Sony After All

“It’s clear to us, based on both forensic and other evidence we’ve collected, that unequivocally they are not responsible for orchestrating or initiating the attack on Sony,” Sam Glines, founder and chief executive officer of the cybersecurity company Norse.


So if it wasn't North Korea or any of the others that I mentioned above, then who was it?

Here is what I wrote on 12-24-2014, 01:34 PM:


Sony Hack Being Turned Into N. Korea False Flag By U.S.

This Whole Entire Fiasco Was Nothing More Than A Promo Stunt For The Release Of The Movie.

The movie is Satire and so is the Promo.

This same type of advertising has been used many times in the past in order to raise public attention thereby raising Opening Box Office Attendance for new movie releases. And usually these types of movies turn out to be garbage.

The problem here is, not knowing any better and always on the lookout for a news story they can wind up on, the Mainstream Media picked-up on it (with all of their so-called "expert analysts") - and then it went viral with the Alternative Media on the internet (with all their armchair "experts" and whack-job conspiracy theorists on YouTube) - and then finally the Feds got involved to use the story towards their own means (propaganda).

Does any of this sound familiar?

Sandy Hook anyone?

Did They Get Your Attention? LOL!



Rogen, Franco celebrate release of 'The Interview' (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2014/12/23/interview-sony-rogen-franco-release-reaction/20811845/)

The saga of The Interview continues: Now, select theaters will screen the movie on schedule on Christmas Day.

Meaning, you're in luck if you live in Atlanta and Austin, for starters.

But the film's two stars, James Franco and Seth Rogen, aren't looking their cinematic gift horse in the mouth.


Seth Rogen Tweets 10:06 AM - 23 Dec 2014:

The people have spoken! Freedom has prevailed! Sony
didn't give up! The Interview will be shown at theaters
willing to play it on Xmas day!



James Franco Tweets 10:26 AM - 23 Dec 2014:

VICTORY!!!!!!!
The PEOPLE and THE PRESIDENT have spoken!!!
SONY to release THE INTERVIEW in theaters…
http://instagram.com/p/w9ZA2JS9aD/

Source: USA TODAY (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2014/12/23/interview-sony-rogen-franco-release-reaction/20811845/)


MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM SONY PICTURES!!!
(and your .gov)


p.s. We'll all have to wait for New Years to receive our gifts from .gov

:)


Are you getting the picture yet? (Pun intended :)).