Burning sensation while meditating

[Guish]

Hi everyone,

I've been meditating for 6-7 years but i've not been always consistent. Lately, when I meditate, I've been having a burning sensation in my throat, nose and tongue. It's not very uncomfortable but it's quite intense.I do get phases when I feel that I do not need to breathe too. I've done a quick search and the only thing that explains this is the awakening of the Kundalini. I'd like to know if anyone can share some similar experiences and provide another explanation. Btw, I've been practising zazen mainly. Thanks.

[Daozen]

Sounds like a buildup of heat. Could be kundalini too. Try dissolving the buildup, or gently cycling it down the front of your chest...

[wishinshow]

Or get the Atlasprofilax done to release your kundalini?

[blotter]

you described my experience of late and I assumed it was kundalini. Have had the feeling like I don't need to breathe and I associated a taste with it too, started with a metallic taste and now it's getting sweeter bit by bit. From what I've read it seems to be the throat and higher centers aligning

I found this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33605-Nasal-Chakra-Awakening) a few weeks ago searching the forum and found a couple of things useful. I had been listening to this Bob Marley 432 hz album when driving, maybe there's something to it. Either way good tunes and good vibes

All the best

DJWsS8VuFNA

[Guish]

Sounds like a buildup of heat. Could be kundalini too. Try dissolving the buildup, or gently cycling it down the front of your chest...

Yes, I've tried to dissolve it by making the breathing deeper and slower. I have also noticed that my breathing has slowed down a lot lately. It reaches a certain point in a day where I feel very detached, my breathing slows down and I start to feel my throat, nose and tongue burning. It's as if it's an invitation to sit down and meditate again. I'm not getting carried away by it.

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Or get the Atlasprofilax done to release your kundalini?

I didn't know about that. Thanks. I'm looking into it. BTW, I'm trying to get a full body massage done once a month now. Being a manager and a parent is quite tough mentally.

[Guish]

you described my experience of late and I assumed it was kundalini. Have had the feeling like I don't need to breathe and I associated a taste with it too, started with a metallic taste and now it's getting sweeter bit by bit. From what I've read it seems to be the throat and higher centers aligning

I found this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33605-Nasal-Chakra-Awakening) a few weeks ago searching the forum and found a couple of things useful. I had been listening to this Bob Marley 432 hz album when driving, maybe there's something to it. Either way good tunes and good vibes

All the best

DJWsS8VuFNA

Hi Blotter,

We've been on the same wave lately. I didn't notice about the taste. However, I do feel dehydrated after a meditation session a lot. Sometimes, I do not feel the need to even eat. It's as if there's no need for anything. I feel very detached from things around me. My wife thinks that I'm ignoring her. I'll start reading the thread you mentioned. Cheers man, some Bob Marley is good.

[Guish]

I always thought that some Coldplay songs were spiritual. Anyway, songs at 432 hz.

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[OMG]

When your breathing stops it means you're going into Nirvakalpa Samadhi so just relax into the experience as a detached observer.

The burning can be dissipated as described in a previous post here.

[Jake]

Try moving the sensation to a different area of your body. It could be that the sensations are localized in that specific area, or it could be that energy is finding a discharge point, and it happens to be in your ear, nose throat area..

Maybe a bit too early to be throwing around words like Kundalini...

Kundalini is very serious business, and you will know it when it activates.

Try moving the energy. You can move energy with just a thought,, (just a thought)

Jake.

[Update] Yes 'relax into' the saensation, and breathing... Good call..

[BlueMuffin]

This could very well be your body and conscious awareness becoming aware of some health problems that are usually just beyond the veil. I say this because I too experience such sensations sometimes in burning and subtle aches around my body when meditating. In your relaxed state, the body is able to focus on these areas in attempt to heal it without all the other conscious energy being occupied in the mental arena. It could simply be a minor infection that's present in your throat...

[andrewgreen]

Based on Qi gong it can be dangerous to move energy into certain places of the body unless you know what your doing. Is it not possible to find a guru? especially if you are practicing practicing a specific tradition like Zazen it should be possible..

[Carmody]

One should endeavor to listen to music with no words, as one does not want to activate the components of the self tied to ego. Words and their formation/recognition, get in the way of clearing the self. removing music with words is one of the fist things to let go of. The same as reading words.

maybe:

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or maybe:

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or maybe....:

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or......

[Guish]

or it could be that energy is finding a discharge point, and it happens to be in your ear, nose throat area..

[Update] Yes 'relax into' the saensation, and breathing... Good call..

Thanks. The burning sensation shifted to my arms yesterday. I also noticed that there was a tingling sensation in my feet. A few days ago I noticed some my feet moving on its own while sleeping. I do not know if they are all related. I'm still very calm about everything.

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Based on Qi gong it can be dangerous to move energy into certain places of the body unless you know what your doing. Is it not possible to find a guru? especially if you are practicing practicing a specific tradition like Zazen it should be possible..

I'm still waiting to find a guru. The ones I have met so far do not sound right to me.

[Guish]

This could very well be your body and conscious awareness becoming aware of some health problems that are usually just beyond the veil. I say this because I too experience such sensations sometimes in burning and subtle aches around my body when meditating. In your relaxed state, the body is able to focus on these areas in attempt to heal it without all the other conscious energy being occupied in the mental arena. It could simply be a minor infection that's present in your throat...


Noted. I started to have a burning sensation around my ears and forehead in my late teens. The family doctor thought that it was fatigue only as I was healthy. I'm experiencing the burning sensation in different forms and areas now.

[Skyhaven]

I experience a similar thing now and then, although its not a 'burning' sensation, it's more an accumulation-of-warmth sensation. My throat and chest also turn red-ish. I have had this since 2011, besides a number of other Kundalini-like symptoms. Of all the research I have done on the causes, the Kundalini pattern is the only one that seems to match.
It has never been a discomfort for me, and it doesn't feel disharmonious at all, so I am just going with it.

[TraineeHuman]

I've had several spiritual teachers who as far as I can tell were absolutely true masters of kundalini energy -- which, as I currently understand it, converts life-energy into a higher level, more universal "energy" -- when a kundalini risen (to the oversoul chakra) experience occurs. In September I experienced an unusual kundalini experience compared to any of the many previous times I had experienced such on past occasions according to my expert former teachers.

I've confirmed that that was indeed a risen kundalini experience through various experts, including two individuals who perform diagnoses using kinesiology (muscle-testing) professionally. What all these experts agree happened was that on this particular occasion a substantial amount of the kundalini energy had remained trapped in my body, mostly in my back or my head, instead of rising completely to above my head. This led, particularly in September, to a strong, sharp burning sensation on the surface of my back, often near the back of the lungs or at the lower back. Or sometimes it was a sligtly painful flow up my spinal column. In September it would sometimes last for up to an hour or so, but after a few weeks it became very brief but still quite a sharp and uncomfortable burning sensation. I also sometimes felt headaches, particularly in the temples or the base of the skull -- and I never get headaches at all, normally. I also initially for a few weeks would experience "palpitations" in my arteries -- often in the upper legs or the stomach area -- every day, that would last usually for about forty minutes and were at least as physically uncomfortable as anything I've ever experienced. By "palpitations" I mean a very strong apparent pounding, as if my blood pressure were sky-high, even though in fact it was normal. Fortunately, that stopped after less than a month.

It's taken almost up until now for the remaining kundalini energy to start releasing. In my case, what I've had to do was to fix many of the minor (or, at sixty-four, maybe not so minor) physical problems my body had. This included, among various other things, a five-week long fungi and parasite detox that involved drinking huge quantities of nettle tea and then parsley tea daily, plus taking ionic chromium and MSM and putting iodine and DMSO over my toenails each day, plus a tablespoon of papaya seeds each day. Also getting all sorts of body-energies in balance and flowing the right way. I hope this helps.

Ray (Finefeather) told me he sometimes has kundalini risen experiences where some of the energy remains trapped in whatever are the weakest chakras within the body. He told me he usually by and large overcomes this by taking half a gram of lysine per day.

[Jake]

or it could be that energy is finding a discharge point, and it happens to be in your ear, nose throat area..

[Update] Yes 'relax into' the saensation, and breathing... Good call..

Thanks. The burning sensation shifted to my arms yesterday. I also noticed that there was a tingling sensation in my feet. A few days ago I noticed some my feet moving on its own while sleeping. I do not know if they are all related. I'm still very calm about everything.

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Based on Qi gong it can be dangerous to move energy into certain places of the body unless you know what your doing. Is it not possible to find a guru? especially if you are practicing practicing a specific tradition like Zazen it should be possible..

I'm still waiting to find a guru. The ones I have met so far do not sound right to me.
Very cool. Try and create the sensation in another place. Creating and moving energy like this is the basis of many different philosophies.

As mentioned already, moving energy into certain areas of the body might be dangerous. At the same time, moving energy and creating energetic flow can be quite beneficial. Try and imagine that we have an energy body that is counterpart to the physical body. Like the physical body, the energy body has different systems and different ebbs and flows. Energetic sensations could mean different things.. I can even imagine the Chakras being likened unto 'organs for the energy body'.. (which is true, in a vvveeerrrrryyyyy basic way.)

I can speak only with my limited experience.. I am no guru so you must look beyond me....

Start moving energy.. The golden rule is that if any energetic sensation becomes uncomfortable or painful then stop and tak a walk or a shower,, whatever you can do to 'ground'... The more deeply profound subjects are best left to the more experienced and level headed... (not me, lol..)

TraineeHuman, or Finefeather are friggin Brilliant. Grebeard too. Thats just off the top of mee head.. (I said 'out the top of mee head')lololol

Now if I could only heed my own advice... lol

Keep us updated..
Jake

[Guish]

I've had several spiritual teachers who as far as I can tell were absolutely true masters of kundalini energy -- which, as I currently understand it, converts life-energy into a higher level, more universal "energy" -- when a kundalini risen (to the oversoul chakra) experience occurs. In September I experienced an unusual kundalini experience compared to any of the many previous times I had experienced such on past occasions according to my expert former teachers.

I've confirmed that that was indeed a risen kundalini experience through various experts, including two individuals who perform diagnoses using kinesiology (muscle-testing) professionally. What all these experts agree happened was that on this particular occasion a substantial amount of the kundalini energy had remained trapped in my body, mostly in my back or my head, instead of rising completely to above my head. This led, particularly in September, to a strong, sharp burning sensation on the surface of my back, often near the back of the lungs or at the lower back. Or sometimes it was a sligtly painful flow up my spinal column. In September it would sometimes last for up to an hour or so, but after a few weeks it became very brief but still quite a sharp and uncomfortable burning sensation. I also sometimes felt headaches, particularly in the temples or the base of the skull -- and I never get headaches at all, normally. I also initially for a few weeks would experience "palpitations" in my arteries -- often in the upper legs or the stomach area -- every day, that would last usually for about forty minutes and were at least as physically uncomfortable as anything I've ever experienced. By "palpitations" I mean a very strong apparent pounding, as if my blood pressure were sky-high, even though in fact it was normal. Fortunately, that stopped after less than a month.

It's taken almost up until now for the remaining kundalini energy to start releasing. In my case, what I've had to do was to fix many of the minor (or, at sixty-four, maybe not so minor) physical problems my body had. This included, among various other things, a five-week long fungi and parasite detox that involved drinking huge quantities of nettle tea and then parsley tea daily, plus taking ionic chromium and MSM and putting iodine and DMSO over my toenails each day, plus a tablespoon of papaya seeds each day. Also getting all sorts of body-energies in balance and flowing the right way. I hope this helps.

Ray (Finefeather) told me he sometimes has kundalini risen experiences where some of the energy remains trapped in whatever are the weakest chakras within the body. He told me he usually by and large overcomes this by taking half a gram of lysine per day.

This is very informative. Thank you for that. I've spent one night where I couldn't sleep at all. If I did, I would wake suddenly thinking that I shouted loud for no apparent reason or feeling that my legs moved violently. It's quite unsafe given that my 1.5 year old boy sleeps next to me. However, the last two says were calm. I'm taking green tea daily and cut my meat consumption.

[Guish]

or it could be that energy is finding a discharge point, and it happens to be in your ear, nose throat area..

[Update] Yes 'relax into' the saensation, and breathing... Good call..

Thanks. The burning sensation shifted to my arms yesterday. I also noticed that there was a tingling sensation in my feet. A few days ago I noticed some my feet moving on its own while sleeping. I do not know if they are all related. I'm still very calm about everything.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Based on Qi gong it can be dangerous to move energy into certain places of the body unless you know what your doing. Is it not possible to find a guru? especially if you are practicing practicing a specific tradition like Zazen it should be possible..

I'm still waiting to find a guru. The ones I have met so far do not sound right to me.
Very cool. Try and create the sensation in another place. Creating and moving energy like this is the basis of many different philosophies.

As mentioned already, moving energy into certain areas of the body might be dangerous. At the same time, moving energy and creating energetic flow can be quite beneficial. Try and imagine that we have an energy body that is counterpart to the physical body. Like the physical body, the energy body has different systems and different ebbs and flows. Energetic sensations could mean different things.. I can even imagine the Chakras being likened unto 'organs for the energy body'.. (which is true, in a vvveeerrrrryyyyy basic way.)

I can speak only with my limited experience.. I am no guru so you must look beyond me....

Start moving energy.. The golden rule is that if any energetic sensation becomes uncomfortable or painful then stop and tak a walk or a shower,, whatever you can do to 'ground'... The more deeply profound subjects are best left to the more experienced and level headed... (not me, lol..)

TraineeHuman, or Finefeather are friggin Brilliant. Grebeard too. Thats just off the top of mee head.. (I said 'out the top of mee head')lololol

Now if I could only heed my own advice... lol

Keep us updated..
Jake


Hi Bro,

Thanks for your time and insight. The burning sensation moves but the throat and nose still have that burning feeling. Yesterday, my chest was burning during meditation and my throat felt as if it had a ball of fire. It was more intense than previous times. I deepened my breath and it passed. I'm including some pranayam breathing to balance the chakras before I meditate.

On the other hand, I'm in holidays and I'm getting some time off. I helped an old woman on the street to walk today. Strangely, I felt nothing. I just helped and moved away when she no longer needed me. I didn't even feel good about what I did. There's something changing in my way of being.

[TraineeHuman]

I've rarely experienced kundalini energy stuck in my body before, hardly at all, and nothing like this time around. Maybe that was because I often had expert teachers or friends around who certainly knew how to get it moving on, one way or another. But this time, during the first week it was so intense there were two nights when I virtually got no sleep, too. And even though my pains in the chest were just for a split second at a time and only a few times per day at most, in the first week I was seriously worried I might be developing a heart attack, until cardiologists eventually ruled that possibility out for me.

On the other hand, some of the kundalini will surely have fully risen in you too, Guish. That brings a very exquisite and delightful and effortless bliss. That state of bliss (or enlightenment) becomes your natural state for (usually, or eventually) at least several weeks, that you get into by doing absolutely nothing. So it's a great idea to spend time doing absolutely nothing, if you can. Relax and just enjoy and take it easy. Easier than falling off a log. I'll bet it's no coincidence you're on holidays at the time this has come to you. Of course, whenever the painful energy grabs your attention, that pulls you out of this state in a hurry.

It sounds like your throat chakra has been the worst hit, Guish. This could mean either stuck communications or communication skills in some way that's currently very important, or else thyroid or oesophagus problems, or both the psychological and the physical. The kundalini energy is a "bitch" (no sexist overtone intended), and points one's weakest areas out unsubtly, and demands that you put that on "project" (urgent, topmost priority) status now. I've had mostly solar plexus problems (my current identity) but mainly in the form of digestion. What seemed to stop the "palpitations" I had was fixing them at the physical level by taking betaine (a digestive enzyme) with each meal. Only an initial step really, but OK as a quick fix, it seems. (Maybe too much stress at work and at home to "digest".) The kundalini "godess" wants us to become strong all over, and won't settle for anything much less than that. (Incidentally, the kundalini energy initially comes from a foot or so below the feet (where there's a major chakra), not from the base of the spine. I've seen it come from there many times. Sometimes I can induce it in a person who's ready to seriously work on themselves and face their pain. In such cases I can move it all the way up their body to above the head, for a much smaller kundalini experience and breakthrough for them than what you or I have no doubt been going through, though. The kundalini energy looks like a pale mid-grey ball a few inches or more in diameter, and has a certain elusive or "ungraspable" quality to it.)

I've also found that almost any kind of "energy release" technique or practice other than sitting meditation seems to move the stuck energy for me: kinesiology or acupressure techniques, qi gong or t'ai chi, hatha yoga, and also just making the energy flow up my spine to the top of my head, kind of just by imagining or willing it to do so.

[Guish]

I've rarely experienced kundalini energy stuck in my body before, hardly at all, and nothing like this time around. Maybe that was because I often had expert teachers or friends around who certainly knew how to get it moving on, one way or another. But this time, during the first week it was so intense there were two nights when I virtually got no sleep, too. And even though my pains in the chest were just for a split second at a time and only a few times per day at most, in the first week I was seriously worried I might be developing a heart attack, until cardiologists eventually ruled that possibility out for me.

On the other hand, some of the kundalini will surely have fully risen in you too, Guish. That brings a very exquisite and delightful and effortless bliss. That state of bliss (or enlightenment) becomes your natural state for (usually, or eventually) at least several weeks, that you get into by doing absolutely nothing. So it's a great idea to spend time doing absolutely nothing, if you can. Relax and just enjoy and take it easy. Easier than falling off a log. I'll bet it's no coincidence you're on holidays at the time this has come to you. Of course, whenever the painful energy grabs your attention, that pulls you out of this state in a hurry.

It sounds like your throat chakra has been the worst hit, Guish. This could mean either stuck communications or communication skills in some way that's currently very important, or else thyroid or oesophagus problems, or both the psychological and the physical. The kundalini energy is a "bitch" (no sexist overtone intended), and points one's weakest areas out unsubtly, and demands that you put that on "project" (urgent, topmost priority) status now. I've had mostly solar plexus problems (my current identity) but mainly in the form of digestion. What seemed to stop the "palpitations" I had was fixing them at the physical level by taking betaine (a digestive enzyme) with each meal. Only an initial step really, but OK as a quick fix, it seems. (Maybe too much stress at work and at home to "digest".) The kundalini "godess" wants us to become strong all over, and won't settle for anything much less than that. (Incidentally, the kundalini energy initially comes from a foot or so below the feet (where there's a major chakra), not from the base of the spine. I've seen it come from there many times. Sometimes I can induce it in a person who's ready to seriously work on themselves and face their pain. In such cases I can move it all the way up their body to above the head, for a much smaller kundalini experience and breakthrough for them than what you or I have no doubt been going through, though. The kundalini energy looks like a pale mid-grey ball a few inches or more in diameter, and has a certain elusive or "ungraspable" quality to it.)

I've also found that almost any kind of "energy release" technique or practice other than sitting meditation seems to move the stuck energy for me: kinesiology or acupressure techniques, qi gong or t'ai chi, hatha yoga, and also just making the energy flow up my spine to the top of my head, kind of just by imagining or willing it to do so.


Thank you friend. I have to agree that I've been very detached lately. I was eating in a food court today and it was full of noise because of the Christmas eve. Yet, I felt so calm inside and I was hardly influenced by the surroundings. I also believe that our bodies are trying to become stable and the healing/cleaning process is not an easy task. I'm very happy to have met you. Cheers, brother.