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ghostrider
20th December 2014, 03:35
Hello my Jedi friends( in honor of the new star wars film) , I had an aha moment thinking about the situation of Earth humanity in with all it's turmoil ... So many obvious things that most look right over ... The light came on when I broke it down simple , here goes , a person lives a life 80-100 years in a material body ... After death they go into what is called the beyond , learning there for 152 years and 21 days ... A new host body is created and they are born again , re-incarnated in a material body , the process begins a new , with a new personality ... Too many people being born changes the laws of re-incarnation ... Now they say a person can return after 10, 20 or 30 years and so forth ... The spirit no longer gets the 152 years and 21 days of spiritual school , born again handicapped , hence so many caught up in the material world totally overlooking the spiritual world ... Now the whole world lives out of balance , knowing deep inside something is broken , but not knowing how to fix it ... 80 years or so living in a material body and only 10 years in the beyond as a spiritual being , instead of 80 years material and 152 years spiritual , you see how humans easily get out of balance with anything , too much coffee everyday , hoarding , addictions , the lust of the flesh , too much of any and everything ... The solution = a birth stop , voluntary ... until balance is restored ... what do you guys and gals think about this ??? please chime in , until we are balanced in our thinking , the same mistakes will keep repeating ...

Guish
20th December 2014, 06:54
Hi Friend,

Where did you get the 152 years from? Are you excluding the fact that some people start their spiritual pursuit in their material body?

Lifebringer
20th December 2014, 08:15
I think it's an interesting perception. Hmm..the out of balance sounds correct but I feel you must say "most" or "few" that has too much of ever and anything. Some people have not had a lush life, but a harsh scrambling hopeless one full of lies. When one cannot believe in a life, there is no motivation to do anything in search of one, since the cards are stacked firmly against the individuals that do not enjoy such priviledged life cycle. Just a chime, after reading the whole post.

betoobig
20th December 2014, 12:43
Many times when we talk about Anything we tend to issolate that very thing in its own and we forget the whole and that is the very reason for unbalance "to be on your own like a roling stone".... we´ve never been on our own but we thought so.... when we realased "puf!" anything you need comes: balance, abundance, relationships, the universe....

Love

bogeyman
20th December 2014, 12:52
Balance needs to be achieve on many levels, the world is way out of balance and chaos and disbelief is rampant. It is a spiritual problem not just the physical. The physical form is just an expression of the spiritual, it is the spiritual that has to be dealt with and many due to excessive materialism are blinded by it and do not seek it out. Man cannot solve this or bring the world to balance there are other levels of existences here they and these visitors of our from a multitude of sources are here to bring the world into balance and take a rightful place amongst the others in creation.

ghostrider
20th December 2014, 13:54
Hi Friend,

Where did you get the 152 years from? Are you excluding the fact that some people start their spiritual pursuit in their material body?

I got the 152 years from the plejaren's information they gave to Edward ... the ET's say the spiritual pursuit per say is in the beyond , when in a material body we learn to bring spiritual thinking into the material world ... my thought is the shortened time spent on the other side , robs a person of the required time to evolve to the next level , thus many return too soon and past lives are carried over into the next life causing problems at times ...

ghostrider
20th December 2014, 13:57
Many times when we talk about Anything we tend to issolate that very thing in its own and we forget the whole and that is the very reason for unbalance "to be on your own like a roling stone".... we´ve never been on our own but we thought so.... when we realased "puf!" anything you need comes: balance, abundance, relationships, the universe....

Love
I suppose being unbalanced in a lifetime is the only way to learn how to live in balance ??? rich in one life , poor in the next , tall in one , short in the next , giving a person a rounded view of all things that humans in material bodies must go through , or experience , to gain proper perspective ... seeing the world through a myriad of eyes and learning to deal with it ...

betoobig
20th December 2014, 18:11
Everything in universe is about balance, equilibrium. The powers that used to be TPUB didn´t want us in balance in nothing at all but, have to say, sorry folks... balance is here to stay... i think we have learned enough to enjoy balance therefore to seek it.
Thanks.

Love

Natalia
20th December 2014, 20:22
Many times when we talk about Anything we tend to issolate that very thing in its own and we forget the whole and that is the very reason for unbalance "to be on your own like a roling stone".... we´ve never been on our own but we thought so.... when we realased "puf!" anything you need comes: balance, abundance, relationships, the universe....

Love
I suppose being unbalanced in a lifetime is the only way to learn how to live in balance ??? rich in one life , poor in the next , tall in one , short in the next , giving a person a rounded view of all things that humans in material bodies must go through , or experience , to gain proper perspective ... seeing the world through a myriad of eyes and learning to deal with it ...

That makes sense to me...it reminds me of when a year or so ago, people were talking about Marlyn Monroe online, and I had a strong feeling that part of her life lesson in this life is to be more authentic...and more self accepting as herself as a whole person...of course it would mean that she would be less popular than she was as Marylin, because honesty and wholeness and depth, in this world, isn't widely very valued...more people tend to value more deception to make one appear more beautiful...so she would have to learn that lesson, as well...of having that different public image and what she faced inside and expressed outside, of herself...all of the things that she repressed, as "Marilyn"...she was very beautiful and also partly authentic and honest as well as the deception...but there was more to her...that would come out in another life...(just my feeling and imagination on it...)...

Radial
20th December 2014, 21:02
According the plejaren, reptilians don't exist, thank god.

"Ptaah:
"[S]uch beings are pure fantasy of scribblers... Reptoids or serpent creatures as described in the foolish books don’t exist in the whole universe as well as in different universe and dimensions neither on Earth nor shape shifted to human.“ [15]"

What a relief.

Billy is the only REAL contactee, btw ...

"I think this is deliberate disinformation and we can find it in the 424th Contact with Ptaah from 2006:
“There is only one real case of genuine contact between extraterrestrials and terrestrials. This case is between you and us." [4]"

That sounds a little like, 'Allah is the only God and Mohammed is his prophet .'

Maybe I misunderstand some things. I'll go on wondering why some people tend to believe this stuff at face value.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/meier/esp_meier10.htm

Shezbeth
20th December 2014, 21:12
I got the 152 years from the plejaren's information they gave to Edward ... the ET's say the spiritual pursuit per say is in the beyond , when in a material body we learn to bring spiritual thinking into the material world ... my thought is the shortened time spent on the other side , robs a person of the required time to evolve to the next level , thus many return too soon and past lives are carried over into the next life causing problems at times ...

A couple questions;
1. Who is Edward?
2. The ETs are 'said' to have said many things both consistent and antithetical to the material you are presenting. Are you agreeing with what they are 'said' to have said in this case? If so why, and moreover, why not the 'other' things they are 'said' to have said? How do you as an individual discern which 'saying' is supportable and not? Please provide actionable rationale that others can benefit from. (I.e. 'my discernment' doesn't cut it) ^_^

wnlight
21st December 2014, 04:12
Shezbeth, I never believed Billy, but his stories/adventures with Ptaah and Semjase are a compelling combination of Buck Rogers and Star Wars. I never understood why these super-technological beings could not get Billy's camera to focus on that fantasy space trip - or why he didn't kiss the girl. I would NEVER try to debunk Billy. I think he did a good enough job himself.

I just read tonight that Billy's Ptaah blames the WTC bombings on radical muslims. Not so smart.

ghostrider
21st December 2014, 04:49
I got the 152 years from the plejaren's information they gave to Edward ... the ET's say the spiritual pursuit per say is in the beyond , when in a material body we learn to bring spiritual thinking into the material world ... my thought is the shortened time spent on the other side , robs a person of the required time to evolve to the next level , thus many return too soon and past lives are carried over into the next life causing problems at times ...

A couple questions;
1. Who is Edward?
2. The ETs are 'said' to have said many things both consistent and antithetical to the material you are presenting. Are you agreeing with what they are 'said' to have said in this case? If so why, and moreover, why not the 'other' things they are 'said' to have said? How do you as an individual discern which 'saying' is supportable and not? Please provide actionable rationale that others can benefit from. (I.e. 'my discernment' doesn't cut it) ^_^
Edward is according to the plejaren , the re-incarnated spirit of the prophets , Nokodemjon, Enoch, Elijah, Isaiah , Jeremiah , Immanuel , Muhammad ... he is a one armed swiss farmer that has been meeting face to face with the Plejaren for over 70 years ... as for the material , it is up to each person to make up their own mind on their own terms at their own pace , all I do is spread the information ...