View Full Version : 2 NYPD Cops Killed, another hoax like event? you be the judge.
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 19:31
This is a re-post from another thread and I thought it deserved its own thread as this double homicide is starting to look like some form of staged event IMO. OP (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=914741&viewfull=1#post914741)
2 NYPD Cops Killed, another hoax like event? you be the judge.
Two NYPD officers 'assassinated' while sitting in patrol car in Brooklyn by gunman who boasted on Instagram about 'revenge' killing cops
Ismaaiyl Brinsley fired at NYPD officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in their squad car in Bedford-Stuyvesant sources said. Hours earlier, Brinsley shot his girlfriend in Baltimore and boasted in social media about wanting to kill cops. Both officers later died at Woodhull Hospital.
Seems like a random nutjob, a random shooting????? HMMMM?
Gun automatically linked to the shooter (they can prove the weapon used immediately)
The same gun Brinsley showed off on his Instagram page, a silver semiautomatic Taurus, was found under his body,
He shot his girlfriend before shooting the cops and she was expected to survive, but mysteriously died???????
Hours before he showed up in Brooklyn, Brinsley shot his ex-girlfriend at about 5:45 a.m. in Owings Mills, Md., about 15 miles from Baltimore.
The 29-year-old woman, who was hit in the stomach, underwent surgery and was expected to survive, a family member told The News.
any question that he actually shot his girlfriend????? well, yes, case closed (immediately).
Brinsley also apparently bragged about shooting his ex-gal pal. On his Instagram account, he posted a photo of army fatigues with apparent blood stains.
and then there's this......
Brinsley was known as a lifelong criminal with ties to Brooklyn. Baltimore County authorities, after learning he was on the run and had posted social media messages about killing cops, sent a wanted flyer to the NYPD, Bratton said.
but....
Later Saturday, Baltimore County cops offered a timeline that conflicted with Bratton’s account.
this is also a strange "coincidence"....
“There were like 75 cops here and a bunch ran toward the subway after the guy. There was a huge police presence there. Even undercovers were coming out of nowhere.”
and once again, who is the big political figure immediately on the case and making his presence known???????????????
The rev., Al Sharpton!
Is this just me or is this another classic when it come to controlled and planned events?????? This whole event basically deserves it's own thread and need to be further investigated IMO.
and like I said, the weekend isn't even over with yet, likely more to come!
Article quotes are taken from here (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-brooklyn-sources-article-1.2051941).
ADDED:
also, I can not find one article that mentions an actual eyewitness to this shooting, yet less all the civilians on the street, eyewitnesses says there were at least 75 cops right in the area and undercover cops popping out of now where from all over the place???????????????
Something isn't adding up and it looks to be like a false flag or sacrifice type of ritual to me.....but of course, I may be totally wrong about this.
Keep a close eye on this guy, he seems to be everywhere and a main player on the political stage right now.......
http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/al-sharpton-getty.jpg
an anti-terrorism drill going on at the same exact time of the shooting?????????????
The two uniformed officers killed on duty were identified as Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos. They were sitting in their marked police car on a Bedford–Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, street corner, allegedly working overtime as part of an anti-terrorism drill.
Source (http://rt.com/usa/216367-nypd-police-officers-shot/) (1 of many sources)
wAaGQqi-9oc
post update
This photo is the one officials claim the shooter took of himself after shooting his girlfriend and possibly right after killing the two police officers....BUT, they always screw up in these types of controlled false flag type of events. Notice his shoe has no laces in it?????
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2014/12/22/1227163/897973-78ca567a-88aa-11e4-bec7-01128b09a77b.jpg
Now one can scour the recent internet articles and find all kinds of photos with the shooter laying on a stretcher as they are taking him from the subway where they claim he shot and killed himself, but, if you look closely, this same shoe mysteriously has a lace in it and is tied in a bow! Hmmmm, since when do cops lace a perps shoe after he kills himself??????
http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2052063.1419119515!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/shot.jpg
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 19:47
This is from December 6th......
NYPD cops warned militant group Black Guerilla Family ‘preparing to shoot on-duty police officers’
EXCLUSIVE: An NYPD confidential informant learned of the threat on Friday evening — three days after a Staten Island grand jury decided not to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo for the chokehold death of Eric Garner. Cop union confirmed the threat late Saturday and were ordering all police officers, on duty and off, to take extra precautions.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-nypd-warned-militant-group-plans-shoot-cops-article-1.2036616
seems to be somehow related.....
joeecho
21st December 2014, 19:59
It is peculiar how the news services are able to put out a narrative of an 'event' so quickly. It's as if they have already created a narrative before an event occurs and then put out the 'story' regardless of whether it's the truth or not.
A-g-e-n-d-a is motivation number one.
Gaia
21st December 2014, 20:08
Why are they not reporting the race of the officers and the shooter like they have been ad nausea in the recent cases of police shooting civilians? Every single report of the Michael Brown shooting starts with "Michael Brown, the unarmed black man shot by a while police officer... "
But in this case they just report a short summary of what happened and leave out that it was a black man who claimed he was seeking to even the score for Michael Brown and Eric Garner. I guess it doesn't quite fit the white racist narrative that the media has been pushing for the last few months!
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 20:11
Why are they not reporting the race of the officers and the shooter like they have been ad nausea in the recent cases of police shooting civilians? Every single report of the Michael Brown shooting starts with "Michael Brown, the unarmed black man shot by a while police officer... "
But in this case they just report a short summary of what happened and leave out that it was a black man who claimed he was seeking to even the score for Michael Brown and Eric Garner. I guess it doesn't quite fit the white racist narrative that the media has been pushing for the last few months!
another oddity in this event, no white involved on the surface....shooter black, victims I believe are asian and mexican/latino.
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 20:27
Another report about his "distinctive" sneakers he was wearing and took a self photo of right after the shooting!
How come these reporters do NOT notice that the photo the shooter took has no shoe lace in the shoe RIGHT AFTER THE SHOOTING, but the photos RIGHT AFTER THE SHOOTING (moments after he killed himself) magically has a shoe lace in it??????????? AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS????? AM I HALLUCINATING???
Am I suppose to believe this shooter killed two cops and ran to perhaps a shoe store and bought some shoelaces and laced his shoe and tied it in a nice bow and then immediately shot and killed himself?????????????????????? Is there a shoe store in between the slain cops vehicle and the subway tunnel he immediately ran to????? SERIOUSLY!
A second Instagram post dated just after the shooting showed the same camouflage pants and distinctive blue sneakers worn by the gunman as his body was carried from the scene on a stretcher.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/nypd-investigating-new-cop-killer-threat-sent-via-instagram/
Why in the hell am I the only one catching this "discrepancy"????????????????????????
Mark
21st December 2014, 20:30
Yes, this is indeed strange. I've been mulling it over all morning long. That a perp supposedly associated with the prison gang, the Black Guerrilla Family goes out and kills an Asian and Latino officer in retribution for white cops killing black men. It creates a rift between law abiding members of other minority groups. It feels like divide and conquer.
At the same time, if the story thus far on this kid is true, his history of carrying a concealed weapon, of being imprisoned for a couple of years, and of being generally unstable would indeed indicate a lack of forethought and impulsivity on his part. He might have just seen cops and did not care what ethnicity they belonged to.
There is justification for either view, in the current, confused climate.
Gaia
21st December 2014, 20:33
Why are they not reporting the race of the officers and the shooter like they have been ad nausea in the recent cases of police shooting civilians? Every single report of the Michael Brown shooting starts with "Michael Brown, the unarmed black man shot by a while police officer... "
But in this case they just report a short summary of what happened and leave out that it was a black man who claimed he was seeking to even the score for Michael Brown and Eric Garner. I guess it doesn't quite fit the white racist narrative that the media has been pushing for the last few months!
another oddity in this event, no white involved on the surface....shooter black, victims I believe are asian and mexican/latino.
I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world,” said Bloomberg, reports The New York Observer. "I have my own State Department''
That's just my two cents : We are going to see a whole lot of violence, innocent blood shed, rights lost; the fabric of civil society is being destroyed. We are being played and pitted against one another. What is the aim? Most of us are not going to like the end result but it may already be too late to back out of the devious plot.
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 20:34
Yes, this is indeed strange. I've been mulling it over all morning long. That a perp supposedly associated with the prison gang, the Black Guerrilla Family goes out and kills an Asian and Latino officer in retribution for white cops killing black men. It creates a rift between law abiding members of other minority groups. It feels like divide and conquer.
At the same time, if the story thus far on this kid is true, his history of carrying a concealed weapon, of being imprisoned for a couple of years, and of being generally unstable would indeed indicate a lack of forethought and impulsivity on his part. He might have just seen cops and did not care what ethnicity they belonged to.
There is justification for either view, in the current, confused climate.
1+1 is equalling 3 for me on this one; it really looks to be another drill gone live to me.
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 20:47
A smoking gun so to speak in my opinion.....
selfie taken right after the shooting (even shows blood on his pants) NO SHOE LACE
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2014/12/22/1227163/897973-78ca567a-88aa-11e4-bec7-01128b09a77b.jpg
another photo right after the shooting (shoe magically has a lace in it).....
http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2052063.1419119515!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/shot.jpg
several articles I've read say the selfie was taken (time stamped) right after he shot the cops.....and obviously him dead on the stretcher photo was taken right after he shot the cops too.
BIZARRE!!!!!!!
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 21:02
There is also the chance the laceless photo was taken after he shot his girlfriend and on his way to NY he stopped somewhere and bought some shoelaces! LOL.....they actually do look brand new! Perhaps I am mistaken about this "anomaly" :)
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 21:08
Why are they not reporting the race of the officers and the shooter like they have been ad nausea in the recent cases of police shooting civilians? Every single report of the Michael Brown shooting starts with "Michael Brown, the unarmed black man shot by a while police officer... "
But in this case they just report a short summary of what happened and leave out that it was a black man who claimed he was seeking to even the score for Michael Brown and Eric Garner. I guess it doesn't quite fit the white racist narrative that the media has been pushing for the last few months!
another oddity in this event, no white involved on the surface....shooter black, victims I believe are asian and mexican/latino.
I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world,” said Bloomberg, reports The New York Observer. "I have my own State Department''
That's just my two cents : We are going to see a whole lot of violence, innocent blood shed, rights lost; the fabric of civil society is being destroyed. We are being played and pitted against one another. What is the aim? Most of us are not going to like the end result but it may already be too late to back out of the devious plot.
Yes, I also have a strong feeling this will only escalate....(it actually already has been for some time now)
The New York Police Department issued a warning to officers Sunday that the department is actively investigating reports that a man is driving to New York from Tennessee to kill two more police officers, Fox News has learned.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/nypd-investigating-new-cop-killer-threat-sent-via-instagram/
Sophocles
21st December 2014, 21:14
Description of a live leak video called «Minutes after two NYPD cops killed execution style»:
«Two New York City police officer were shot and killed Saturday after they were shot by a gunman as they sat inside a patrol car.
The attack took place in Brooklyn at around 3 p.m., the New York Daily News reported.
“The perp came out of the houses, walked up behind the car and lit them up,” a high-ranking police official told the Daily News.
An NYPD spokesman confirmed to Fox News that two officers were shot in the incident and were immediately moved to a nearby hospital. Police later told The Associated Press that both officers died from their injuries..
The New York Post reported that both officers were shot in the head at point-blank range.
“It’s an execution,” one law enforcement source told The Post.
The gunman just started “pumping bullets” into the patrol car, another source said.
The suspect then fled to a nearby subway station before he shot and killed himself.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-in-car-critically-injured/»
Link: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c71_1419119373
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To me, it looks like it is two different pants we are seeing in the two pictures (in the OP). When on the stretcher, it looks like his pants has a side pocket on the left side. The bloody pants, however, do not seem to have side pockets.
If he had the time to change his pants, he could possibly also have taken the time to put on laces.
Bingo
21st December 2014, 21:17
Yes, that is a major discrepancy...and there are more imo. These lone gunman staged events really pop out at us now.
I live in Brooklyn, although not in Bed Stuy. However, it will take more than this event to create a race war here. We're used to being a melting pot. We love the diversity and the energy that comes from it.
I'm not saying there is no violence here, I am saying there is no violence that fits this pattern. No one simply walks up to a police car and shoots two men dead. Then suddenly hears sirens (would probably take 30 minutes for that to happen), then runs into the nearest subway and kills himself because he is so afraid of the cops. This is just not recognizable behavior. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
And all this in the middle of an anti-terrorist drill? I would be very surprised if there were terrorists located there but seems like good cover to pull this fiasco off.
Mark
21st December 2014, 21:17
1+1 is equalling 3 for me on this one; it really looks to be another drill gone live to me.
Good point, SilentFeathers. This is a major inconsistency. The progression of events from this point on has to be observed carefully. As the MSM is currently honed in on this meme and national support rightly rises for the police in light of this event, people of good conscience are going to be conflicted and drawn more toward stability and order as a result. A shoestring is not going to convince most. The natural tendency is going to lean toward the institution. If this is a false flag event and the purpose was indeed to create a rift between different minority communities further actions taken to pacify the black urban communities will result in the protests being less diverse in nature, more monochromatic. Further isolation of blacks.
To add another dimension, the recent move to normalize relations with Cuba open the door to bounty hunters who wish to bring Assata Shakur back to the US for "justice". The reason for her inclusion in the FBI most wanted list is similar to the issues currently ascendant here in the US. She was arrested and charged numerous times for crimes against the state, associated with the Black Panthers and their movement for self-determination in the black community.
These "steps" in this not-so-gradual escalation may be related.
Will Cuba give up Assata Shakur, FBI's most wanted woman? (http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/will-cuba-give-assata-shakur-fbis-most-wanted-woma/njX6y/)
The U.S. and Cuba are pressing reset on diplomatic relations. And here's one of the many questions coming out of this story: Will Assata Shakur be extradited and face life in prison back in the U.S.?
"I come from a very strong history, and I simply want to live on this planet," said Shakur.
Shakur was convicted of the 1973 killing of a New Jersey state trooper during a shootout. She was shot twice by officers during the incident.
Shakur was given life in prison but always proclaimed her innocence. She was a member of the armed black nationalist group the Black Liberation Army and the Black Panther Party.
In 1979, Shakur escaped from prison with the help of fellow Liberation Army members and fled to Cuba where Fidel Castro took her in as a fellow socialist and accepted her request for asylum.
Read more here (http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/will-cuba-give-assata-shakur-fbis-most-wanted-woma/njX6y/)...
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guerrilla_Family):
BGF was associated with a number of leftist groups, including the Black Liberation Army, Symbionese Liberation Army, and Weather Underground.
Assata Shakur was a member of the Black Liberation Army. Also according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guerrilla_Family), this is the goal of the Black Guerilla Family:
Inspired by Marcus Garvey, the Black Guerilla Family was characterized as an ideological African-American Marxist revolutionary organization composed of prisoners. It was founded with the stated goals of eradicating racism, maintaining dignity in prison, and overthrowing the United States government.
So. There is a dovetailing of potentialities here, once again and as always, seeking to create the "more perfect union" by the eradication of all movements in the non-majority communities toward self-determination. To continue to keep blacks enslaved to the country and the system.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." ~ MARTIN NIEMÖLLER
For America, a few more lines need to be added to this.
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 21:46
Yes Rahkyt, N. Korea bad, Cuba good.....
The shoestring "theory" stands out, but as you say, at the end of the day it's basically meaningless to most....the MSM will make sure of it, especially if it is a mistake in the program.
IMO this event is high up the ladder and politically involved, even to the point of removing the NYC mayor and militarizing the police (and policing the net)......it has all the makings of killing many birds with one stone (event).
It would have a totally different appearance if both those cops were white.....
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 22:10
Just a personal side note about me and this thread:
It really bothers me to almost always think that when an event like this happens that it is somehow a false flag or some type of staged event, I honestly try to at first think, "yes, it's as they say it is" and almost every time I find holes that just can't be blown off as coincidences or simple/honest mistakes.....it's almost as if I'm watching some sort of video game playing in the real world, especially these last few years.
Regardless, if just half of these events recently ARE manufactured and planned somehow, (which to me they surely seem to be) well then, we are in big trouble and something BIG is happening and likely to get even more brazen.
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "being played like a fiddle"!
jake gittes
21st December 2014, 22:13
Feathers, the shoestring does stand out. But so do the pants w/the side pocket and without. Extremely more fishy than the official narrative.
SilentFeathers
21st December 2014, 22:21
Feathers, the shoestring does stand out. But so do the pants w/the side pocket and without. Extremely more fishy than the official narrative.
The selfie looks to be taken with the phone and or camera right below or at the knee level, perhaps right at the bottom of that pocket.
The picture on the stretcher seems to look like his pants are pulled down quite a ways and the pocket is a lot lower on his leg than it normally would be, perhaps right on the knee. I could be wrong though.
I have a pair of pants like these and the side pocket like that is definitely above the knee, kind of a low "hip" pocket so to speak.
I must say and agree though its likely a different pair of pants as the lower right hand corner of the photo is lacking a seam to where the bottom of the hip pocket would likely be compared to my set of pants like this.
Mark
21st December 2014, 22:37
Yes Rahkyt, N. Korea bad, Cuba good.....
It is interesting as well that the most damning of the N. Korea/Sony debacle are also related to race issues between black and white here in the US. Multiple inputs into the system, all reinforcing the same aspect of the overall paradigmatic structure of white supremacy and it institutionalization.
Everybody is being triggered at the most basic level of our societal programming. I cannot speak to how whites are responding, but right now, in the black community, this most recent event is resulting in a drawing back and a sort of breathless pause. It is as if people feel that it is about to jump off in the worst way if things continue along their current path.
For those of us who have this programming, it is often difficult to verbalize it. To talk about it directly. Or even to want to acknowledge it in public where others can see. And, perhaps, judge you as somehow sympathetic. That is understandable. We are all part of a social paradigm that we have inculcated since earliest childhood. Know that you are not alone. That overcoming the self-consciousness and the stigma against addressing it directly is overcoming the programming itself.
One of the laws of karma state that if we believe something, hold it as true, at some point in our lives we will have to prove it.
How we respond is all.
Roisin
21st December 2014, 23:14
A coincidence that another cop was shot down too somewhere else on the same day those 2 cops in New York were shot down? That one that happened in Florida is on Google News front page too.
Granted neither of these events qualify as a "false flag" , nor are there any in the alternative news community calling them that either, one still has to wonder if both incidents are somehow connected.
Is there some kind of link between each gunman? Did they collaborate on this together to shoot down a cop or 2 on the same day??
This said though, cops are shot down and killed on a regular basis and not just in America either, but all over the world. As the grand-daughter of the chief of police of a major American city, let me tell you how many times a year my own family members attended funerals several times a year for cops being shot down in the line of duty. I have aunts and uncles who were on the force too. And then in my own generation... a family member is the chief county prosecutor of same large city too. Once again, a lot of attended cop funerals. Nothing has changed in this modern era either and in fact, such horrific incidents are happening with much more frequency than ever before.
Cops are shot down be they black, white, yellow, green or orange.... But rest assured, they are shot down first and foremost because they are cops hence why the job is so dangerous.
This said though, the gunman may be more apt to shoot down a cop whose race/ethnicity they are prejudiced against or are hostile to for various reasons... So race/ethnicity ALWAYS comes into play to a certain extent when gunmen shoot down cops. That's just a given and it comes with the territory.
Florida police officer killed; suspect charged with murder
A veteran Florida police officer was shot and killed while on duty early Sunday by a man described as transient, according to law enforcement officials, who gave no motive for the suspect now charged with murder.
Officer Charles Kondek, 45, was gunned down in Tarpon Springs, about 30 miles northwest of Tampa, after responding to a call for service around 2 a.m. EST, the Tarpon Springs Police Department said.
http://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20141221&t=2&i=1003066251&w=320&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=LYNXMPEABK0C9
The officer later died of his injuries at a local hospital, the police department said.
His death followed a Saturday afternoon shooting in New York City, where a gunman shot dead two police officers and then killed himself. Authorities said that shooter had indicated on social media that he might seek revenge for recent U.S. police killings of unarmed black men.
In the Florida case, police said they arrested Marco Antonio Parilla Jr., 23, on a charge of first-degree murder.
Parilla was taken into custody after fleeing the shooting scene and crashing into a pole and another vehicle, the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office said in a release.
Police officials did not give any information about the type of call Kondek had responded to ahead of the shooting.
Kondek served on the Tarpon Springs police force for more than 17 years and previously worked as an officer for the New York City Police Department, officials said.
A man with the same name and birth date as Parilla was released from a Florida prison in March after serving a little more than two years for leaving the scene of a crash where there were injuries, as well as for various drug charges, corrections records show.
Sheriff's officials did not immediately confirm whether that man was now the suspect in Kondek's death.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/21/us-usa-florida-police-idUSKBN0JZ0LH20141221
Roisin
22nd December 2014, 00:14
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Rest in Peace to each one of these courageous men who lost their lives while in the line of duty as protector's of our communities.
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East Sun
22nd December 2014, 01:00
Not jumping to conclusions,
A few things spring to mind.
There is the familiar lone gunman scenario, (often a brainwashed patsy) who conveniently commits suicide.
A coinciding drill.
The orchestrated police state agenda to cause chaos. It's all very real. They stop at nothing.
We can expect these things to get worse.
Don't be manipulated or made fearful.
They will not win. imo
Tangri
22nd December 2014, 01:24
A smoking gun so to speak in my opinion.....
selfie taken right after the shooting (even shows blood on his pants) NO SHOE LACE
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2014/12/22/1227163/897973-78ca567a-88aa-11e4-bec7-01128b09a77b.jpg
another photo right after the shooting (shoe magically has a lace in it).....
http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2052063.1419119515!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/shot.jpg
several articles I've read say the selfie was taken (time stamped) right after he shot the cops.....and obviously him dead on the stretcher photo was taken right after he shot the cops too.
BIZARRE!!!!!!!
Sorry if I intrude your vintage point but it could be;
He was sitting on the bench and he crossed his legs and left shoe is not have a shoe lace, but right is still has(a new one). His leg's angle anticipate it is a left leg.
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 02:11
Several pics from the stretcher show both shoes laced.
Tangri
22nd December 2014, 02:20
Several pics from the stretcher show both shoes laced.
I was talking, supposedly taken photo by shooter(first pic.,selfie you provided)
I do not have other pictures to compare.
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 02:34
I've seen a few pics of him on the stretcher, both shoes have laces in them.
The selfie has no lace....
I don't have a clue what your point is? U lost me...
Tangri
22nd December 2014, 02:38
I've seen a few pics of him on the stretcher, both shoes have laces in them.
any chance for us, to see them? (or link) Comparing with a selfie(?!) only brings my thoughts.
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 02:40
I'm on my phone right now, a google image search I'm sure has them available....
You could trust me or perhaps someone else could hunt one down and post it.
Tangri
22nd December 2014, 02:46
I'm on my phone right now, a google image search I'm sure has them available....
You could trust me or perhaps someone else could hunt one down and post it.
Nope, I couldn't find it. The Claim still belongs to you.
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 02:50
I'll find one in the morning when I get back to my computer and post it. I'm absolutely positive about this "claim".
I think the pics are actually in one of the links in the OP
Tangri
22nd December 2014, 02:59
I'll find one in the morning when I get back to my computer and post it. I'm absolutely positive about this "claim".
I think the pics are actually in one of the links in the OP
Then, anyone (except SilentFeather)( with better search ability than mine) can help here?
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 03:03
I'll find one in the morning when I get back to my computer and post it. I'm absolutely positive about this "claim".
I think the pics are actually in one of the links in the OP
Then, anyone (except SilentFeather)( with better search ability than mine) can help here?
Sorry, I can't do much with this phone, hopefully someone can help out here.
Added:
There's no way I'm the only one that noticed this shoestring thing. There must be other forums and websites talking about this. (With photos)
sigma6
22nd December 2014, 05:27
I'll say it, since no seems to have the mind set and/or gull to call it out...
This stinks to high hell of another FALSE FLAG cop operation, from top to bottom... 2 ethnic guys killed by another ethnic guy who conveniently kills himself? (after getting away O.o?) check the timing, only the cops would know that is the least probability time window to "pull a job" like that...i.e. no witnesses (they would know, based on their own statistics) The Facebook stuff is just pure hogwash... All too convenient from a "legal interpretation" point of view... The only thing they are telling the truth about is those shots were done EXECUTION STYLE... (no sh** Sherlock!) deranged people would never be so meticulous and/or efficient...
I won't be responding more then this... (lol!) I will allow others to bury this (gut instinct/gestalt of mine) with whatever denial, repression, gross rationalization, etc. Avalon see fit... (i.e. as you wish...) but everyone on this forum should have been able to see it immediately, after reading the headline, and seeing the picture and ethnicity of the cops (expendable/collateral damage from a WASP Freemason point of view, sorry but it is what it is... this will never change... ever... that's the whole point of this organization today, i.e. "white mafia")... within the larger context of politics and the MSM frenzy of media manipulation going on lately... (has anyone picked up that Aussie Cafe FF WAS the site of "Drill" previously???)
I think all the cops mentioned above who were gunned down, were probably the best cops you could meet (as much as anyone could be, and still be a cop in today's world...) And they all knew something... and now they are all DEAD...
And without skipping a beat, the "Union" is trying to dump this on the lap of the mayor? simply because he was sympathetic to the "anti-Police murder" demonstrations which are all being completely suppressed by mainstream media??... (i.e. How dare he! and be on the take at the same time...) which in turn, may all be a convenient side issue and additional distraction... (sigh... when are we going to wake up?...) we're proven guilty until we're innocent... (even when 90% of the time we're innocent) but we assume these thugs who are up to their chins in dirt, graft, bribes, drug trafficking, secret society dual oath memberships, etc, are innocent until proven guilty?...
That's just not how it works, ESPECIALLY for them... in the military when you are an officer, your jurisdiction is not even "presumed" it's 100% agreed upon as soon as you're enlisted for duty...you have, by definition, volunteered to be an officer of a corporate military dictatorship, period, i.e. in the event of a "violation" they ARE literally guilty until proven innocent. What they are applying to us, is supposed to be applied to them... i.e. "pleading" (agreeing to recognize the jurisdiction and have them arbitrate...) i.e. "guilty" or "not guilty" is not the same as "guilty" or "innocent" Try claiming "innocent" (LOL!) it will NEVER be allowed (because it doesn't imply jurisdiction)... because you are not in a common law court. You're in a probate, commercial admiralty jurisdiction. They are simply trying to process security interests, liability accounts, akin to insurance claims ... "guilty" means "I am willing to pay" and "not guilty" means "dishonour" by definition. This was meant for officers of the military, not private men and woman "on the land" Thus the gross hypocrisy of the entire system... (since it is all done without our awareness...)
The cause is still rotten to the core corruption that has infested these organizations from the very top, the system is not working. They are getting off on re-interpretation of "scope of duty" ("I thought my life was in danger, so I shot him in the back) and then being judged and aided by "their own kind" (collusion) and mass media manipulation (more tax money/security interests (charges) then they know what to do with...) This is just too dangerous, disgusting and diabolical not to speak out on... this is dangerous because it is essentially the "Police Mafia" thinking they are so organized, and so well funded, they can now come out of the closet... and dance right in your face... (and I really wanted to take a break and stick to my own research for awhile...ha! my bad for popping in and taking a peek!) There is just something so very evil and sinister at the bottom of this...who controls NYC anyway? The cops or the mayor? My gut tells me those two cops were innocent, maybe even trying to root out something evil, what did they see or know?
Questions:
I'd like to know if they were Freemasons or not, not that that would alone would be enough info, but I am guessing NOT... and even if they were... (what if they "wanted out"? ...for moral reasons?)
What did those two "ethnic" cops know? (as in recent background history) that we may never find out?...
'cause they knew something to have this much preparation/orchestration come down on their heads... this has all the elements of satanic ritual sacrifice (Freemason signature) organized crime, writ all over it... the NYPD is as dirty as it gets... (worse then self identified organized crime, precisely because of the "hiding in plain sight" public manipulation)
sigma6 signing out...
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 13:45
A smoking gun so to speak in my opinion.....
selfie taken right after the shooting (even shows blood on his pants) NO SHOE LACE
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2014/12/22/1227163/897973-78ca567a-88aa-11e4-bec7-01128b09a77b.jpg
another photo right after the shooting (shoe magically has a lace in it).....
http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2052063.1419119515!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/shot.jpg
several articles I've read say the selfie was taken (time stamped) right after he shot the cops.....and obviously him dead on the stretcher photo was taken right after he shot the cops too.
BIZARRE!!!!!!!
Sorry if I intrude your vintage point but it could be;
He was sitting on the bench and he crossed his legs and left shoe is not have a shoe lace, but right is still has(a new one). His leg's angle anticipate it is a left leg.
I'll find one in the morning when I get back to my computer and post it. I'm absolutely positive about this "claim".
I think the pics are actually in one of the links in the OP
Then, anyone (except SilentFeather)( with better search ability than mine) can help here?
another pic with laces in both shoes......(it took me a whole 30 seconds to find this photo now that I am at my computer!)
http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/shooting14.jpg?w=840
SOURCE (http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/)
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 14:34
This guy caught the shoe lace thing....and more.
07uSgiFRTHc
Roisin
22nd December 2014, 14:52
Well, I predicted back in August that a false flag event would occur around Christmas which came true as everybody in the alternative news community believes that the Sydney Siege was a false flag event .... amongst other things, that lucid dream that predicted that event that I had last august indicated that a bar was somehow connected to that event and I included that in my description of that dream when I typed out a note and saved what that dream was about just after I woke up from it that morning. As it turns out, the Sydney Siege occurred at a cafe... not a bar but close enough. More information has come out about that gunman that he was a gov't informer.
As for the shooting of those policemen in NYC.... that was not a false flag event. No one in the alternative news community is making such claims either. Nor was the shooting and death of that cop in Florida that happened the same day a false flag event.
A cop is shot down and killed in the US every 53 hrs. ..... these are not false flag events and they happen all the time... unfortunately.
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 15:00
As for the shooting of those policemen in NYC.... that was not a false flag event. No one in the alternative news community is making such claims either.
I'm disagreeing with you this time, I totally see this NYC shooting as a staged event. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, personally I have tried hard to see this as a random event done by a lunatic, but I just can't swallow that pill this time.....
Gaia
22nd December 2014, 15:24
This guy caught the shoe lace thing....and more.
07uSgiFRTHc
Thank you for posting it!
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 15:46
I always get suspicious in these types of events when the officials, MSM, and in some cases, politicians produce evidence and solve the crime within minutes of the event, before the bodies are cold.
In this instance they had the perp, the motive, the weapon, etc actually before the crime was committed (instagram/social media photographic proof!)....all they needed was a body(s), which of course they got the instant Baltimore faxed a warning BOLO to NYC. The crime takes place during a terrorism drill involving two cops working overtime as part of the drill.....just a coincidence huh? all of this just a coincidence? wow.....
Roisin
22nd December 2014, 15:54
This is a re-post from another thread and I thought it deserved its own thread as this double homicide is starting to look like some form of staged event IMO.
From an earlier post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=914741&viewfull=1#post914741):
This is just my opinion from certain observations and feelings right now:
MANY things are happening right now at this point of time that are connecting/dove-tailing things together; related to one another in VERY strange ways, synchronicity, even when certain things seem unrelated. I'm sensing a few of these synchronicities coming to a flash point so to speak, especially within the next few days. (ironically its about the 21st, solstice time too)....which perhaps may have something to do with it all too, seems almost a ritualistic type of flash.
Watch things closely over the next few days, some things are already in motion and a few things will add to the mix soon IMO.
Could very well be an above average type of weekend this weekend.....
All I'm seeing you doing is trying to fit that cop story in NYC with your above very general "prediction" that you made a few days ago (see prediction above) that "something was going to happen in the upcoming weekend so you could call that prediction a "hit".
And not only that, but you are calling the killing of those cops a false flag event too.
So you are saying that the police intentionally orchestrated this event and killed 2 of their own just to cause more people to turn against the police?
Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?
Arc
22nd December 2014, 15:59
A cop is shot down and killed in the US every 53 hrs. ..... these are not false flag events and they happen all the time... unfortunately.
Yes, true. So, that means the fact that this has become top story on all mainstream media (which as we know are all effectively one entity) makes it irrelevant whether it was real or faked.
What IS relevant, is the fact that mainstream media has chosen to highlight this story right now. Did you here about any of the other officers who died in the last 53 hours? or last year? as top story?
I think the part whether it's a true or false story can be debated, but based on media's choice of reporting it so prominently, and timed right now, fulfills the same purpose as a false flag - to promote an agenda...
What agenda? "we better ramp up that police state! everyone panic!"
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 16:05
This is a re-post from another thread and I thought it deserved its own thread as this double homicide is starting to look like some form of staged event IMO.
From an earlier post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=914741&viewfull=1#post914741):
This is just my opinion from certain observations and feelings right now:
MANY things are happening right now at this point of time that are connecting/dove-tailing things together; related to one another in VERY strange ways, synchronicity, even when certain things seem unrelated. I'm sensing a few of these synchronicities coming to a flash point so to speak, especially within the next few days. (ironically its about the 21st, solstice time too)....which perhaps may have something to do with it all too, seems almost a ritualistic type of flash.
Watch things closely over the next few days, some things are already in motion and a few things will add to the mix soon IMO.
Could very well be an above average type of weekend this weekend.....
All I'm seeing you doing is trying to fit that cop story in NYC with your above "prediction" that you made a few days ago so you could call the prediction a hit.
And not only that, but you are calling the killing of those cops a false flag event too.
So you are saying that the police intentionally orchestrated this event and killed 2 of their own just to cause more people to turn against the police?
Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?
Well, I reckon I am being ridiculous according to your perspective. The event happened so in some way my prediction was accurate to a degree. It doesn't need any effort on my part to tie anything in to it IMO, that is the farthest thing from what I am doing talking about this event. I could actually care a less about my "prediction".
I am surprised about your "opinion" about me and this event tho.....
also, I totally do NOT think the police orchestrated this event.....
Roisin
22nd December 2014, 17:30
This is just my opinion from certain observations and feelings right now:
MANY things are happening right now at this point of time that are connecting/dove-tailing things together; related to one another in VERY strange ways, synchronicity, even when certain things seem unrelated. I'm sensing a few of these synchronicities coming to a flash point so to speak, especially within the next few days. (ironically its about the 21st, solstice time too)....which perhaps may have something to do with it all too, seems almost a ritualistic type of flash.
Watch things closely over the next few days, some things are already in motion and a few things will add to the mix soon IMO.
Could very well be an above average type of weekend this weekend.....
Above is your prediction that you made last week concerning the upcoming weekend.....
You are not predicting anything in it except that something or another might happen over the weekend.
Let's just say that if those cops weren't shot down over the weekend, it would have been some other thing that would have ended up in the headlines that you would be connecting to your "prediction" you made last week and then calling it a "hit".
If I made claims like what you are doing here on a prediction like that, you would be the first one to call me out on that... lol..
Come on SilentFeathers.... let's be frank about this. ;)
Also... you started this thread off with that prediction ... you quoted it in your first post in this thread. So obviously that prediction was important to you hence why you started this thread with it in the first place.
Mark
22nd December 2014, 17:42
This is not personal between you and SilentFeather Roisin.
This is a serious issue. Not an egocentric thing.
He is not the only one who is talking about it.
Despite what you say, the Alternative community is not monolithic. You say no one is talking about it. Perhaps that is because your view of the Alternative community is monochromatic. There are others who are seeing the same pattern. Cultural blinders do not a collective perspective reveal.
While this young man may indeed have been disturbed and on his own there are valid reasons to see this as a potential false flag because of the greater implications, the timing, etc.
Arc
22nd December 2014, 17:51
And, just to add some ugly irony, google news currently lists the second top story today as....
Ex-officer not charged in fatal Milwaukee shooting
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/22/police-shooting-milwaukee/20760011/
To summarize:
Top story 1 - Officers executed in NY
Top Story 2 - Officer who murders a mentally ill black man gets away with it, without charges
Top story 1 will typically outrage sheeple who believe everything as reported
Top Story 2 will typically outrage activists
Is this a clever agenda to polarize people?
Mark
22nd December 2014, 18:04
There are some good cops. My father was a military police when I was small. I've met some good cops. I'm a Vet myself so I appreciate law and order. I respect what good cops do. But even good cops get caught up in racial profiling. I know because I've met them. They pull me over for no reason other than I'm black and then, when I speak, they hear culture and education, and let me go with admonishments or tickets, whatever.
This is the institution that is at issue here. The way that racism is built into the system. Time and time again these cops get off for murder because they say they felt threatened by unarmed people or someone went for their gun (so they say) and the system releases them. There has to be a mechanism like this because theyre cops and it is justifiable that they are held to a different standard because they are charged with public safety, like soldiers.
But that blue wall is often a lying wall, meant to uphold brothers. Evidence is often faked and yes, people are murdered to make things look certain ways. It occurs, often.
If your lived perspective and experience with cops is as friendly, smiling faces who help you across the street or stop to talk to you as you're walking in your neighborhood nice and cozy then you are not wired to see cops any other way and this is a cultural blinder. Many have them. It's ok. It's life.
But it is time to WAKE UP.
Take off the blinders and truly LOOK. See how things do not exist in a vacuum and how there is a legacy of repression that the cops represent for certain people and certain neighborhoods. Bear witness to agendas. The loss of a brown and yellow cop to turn public opinion against an entire community is a small price to pay in the eyes of some.
Roisin
22nd December 2014, 18:09
Rahkyt
Silentfeathers made it an egocentric thing by starting this thread off with that very general prediction of his that he's trying to draw attention to.
This is what I'm pointing out.... and the ISSUE here are that 3 cops were shot down in cold blood for no reason at all over this past weekend but hey, that happens on a regular basis all the time anyway.
Cops should be paid much, much more than what they are currently paid. That so many of them suffer from PTSD because everybody out there owns guns and are using them against their own loved ones too even is another reason why cops need to paid more. Every time they walk out the door, their lives are in danger. That shooting and the one in Florida that happened on the same day supports that contention very clearly.
Cop haters will always be out there and will create reasons why they shot one down. That's a given.
Mark
22nd December 2014, 18:14
Fine Roisin but let's not derail the thread with whatever it is that is personal between you two. Prediction or not it happened and lives were lost, the topic deserves some respectful treatment. I agree cops should get paid more. So should teachers.
Roisin
22nd December 2014, 18:18
So what are you doing now Rahkyt? It looks to me like you yourself are derailing this thread by continuing to debate me on this.
So that's makes you as guilty as Silentfeathers.
I agree though, let's drop it and talk about how valuable and needed cops are in our community and that they are our hero's.
Also.... here's what I was saying before:
This is just my opinion from certain observations and feelings right now:
MANY things are happening right now at this point of time that are connecting/dove-tailing things together; related to one another in VERY strange ways, synchronicity, even when certain things seem unrelated. I'm sensing a few of these synchronicities coming to a flash point so to speak, especially within the next few days. (ironically its about the 21st, solstice time too)....which perhaps may have something to do with it all too, seems almost a ritualistic type of flash.
Watch things closely over the next few days, some things are already in motion and a few things will add to the mix soon IMO.
Could very well be an above average type of weekend this weekend.....
Above is your prediction that you made last week concerning the upcoming weekend.....
You are not predicting anything in it except that something or another might happen over the weekend.
Let's just say that if those cops weren't shot down over the weekend, it would have been some other thing that would have ended up in the headlines that you would be connecting to your "prediction" you made last week and then calling it a "hit".
If I made claims like what you are doing here on a prediction like that, you would be the first one to call me out on that... lol..
Come on SilentFeathers.... let's be frank about this. ;)
Also... you started this thread off with that prediction ... you quoted it in your first post in this thread. So obviously that prediction was important to you hence why you started this thread with it in the first place.
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 18:27
My gosh Roisin, please leave this thread, you are jumping to conclusions about me without even knowing me. You have a right to your opinion, you stated it, now please leave the thread or stop badgering. Thanks.
Also, I will remove the prediction out of the OP for you, it actually shouldn't of been there anyways. This thread is not about me, can not you see that? sheesh
Mark
22nd December 2014, 18:30
It is the emotional fervor that must be ramped up in the first moments and hours of an event. That is what people remember. First impressions, the first framing of a story sticks with people. It worked with the Ferguson Grand Jury, they were givin an outdated law on how to proceed in viewing evidence, then when they were given the updated law near the end of their deliberations, it made no dent in their deliberations because their opinions had already been formed.
Feds Deny NYPD Cop Killer Had Ties To Black Guerilla Family Prison Gang (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/20/ismaaiyl-brinsley-nypd-black-guerilla-family_n_6361324.html)
“BGF has been talking about getting back at cops for Eric Garner and Ferguson,” a source told the News, which also reported on a suspected Black Guerrilla Family plot to kill NYPD officers in the wake of a grand jury decision not to indict an officer in Eric Garner’s chokehold death earlier this summer.
A federal law enforcement official, however, told the Baltimore Sun that Brinsley had no known ties to the BGF.
Arc
22nd December 2014, 18:41
Ah-ha! New top story on google news in my area. So, here is the agenda then.
NAACP Calling For Gun Control Measures Following Shooting Deaths Of 2 NYPD Officers
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/12/22/naacp-calling-for-gun-control-measures-following-shooting-deaths-of-2-nypd-officers/
Gosh, the mainstream media is making this so easy now, by watching the patterns of their top stories, about how they are trying to persuade everyone, and for what reasons.
SilentFeathers
22nd December 2014, 19:09
This kind of sums things up, and it's written by a Colorado Sheriff, Justin Smith....
Smith believes a “small group of committed societal agitators works endlessly behind the scenes to sow seeds of distrust and hatred between communities and their police officers.”
“Their ultimate goal is to break down the bonds that hold us together as Americans and to destroy the rule of law as we know it. Oftentimes, they do this under the mantra of promoting social justice,” Smith said.
He said those people are trying to convince Americans that the police are their enemies.
“Yesterday’s murder of these two officers represents a symbol of their success,” Smith said. “However, it’s critical to this group that these events result in police officers, in turn, adopting an adversarial attitude towards the communities they serve.”
SOURCE (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/12/21/larimer-county-sheriff-pens-letter-following-murder-of-nyc-officers/)
Bob
22nd December 2014, 19:24
It seems the opinions of Colorado Sheriff's are more towards allowing guns and ammunition. One officer speaking out about concerns about 'some sort of conspiracy' is humorous to say the least.
It seems to me obvious that Sheriff's in the State will not move towards using shootings of anyone, be they cops or otherwise, to restrict lawful gun ownership or keeping guns in the State.
One may think "cop shootings" would give some cause to create more legislation to remove one's ability to protect themselves from armed thugs bent on killing or harming.
Colorado though won't be one of those States to use such incidents to ban guns IMHO - here's why..
DENVER (CBS4/AP) – Most of Colorado’s elected sheriffs are trying to strike new gun restrictions with a federal lawsuit against the state that argues the laws violate the right to bear arms.
The laws passed this spring limit the size of ammunition magazines and expand background checks to private and online firearm sales. The lawsuit was filed Friday morning.
“What the Supreme Court said is you may not prohibit arms which are typically owned by law-abiding persons for lawful purposes,” said Independence Institute spokesman Dave Kopel.
The majority of sheriffs involved in the lawsuit represent rural, gun-friendly areas of the state [of Colorado].
They argue the laws set to take effect July 1 have many flaws that will make it nearly impossible for citizens to comply with and they insist the measures won’t improve public safety.
(Source (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/05/17/colorado-sheriffs-suing-over-gun-control-measures-2/))
Arc
22nd December 2014, 19:32
More clues on the media agendas...
NYC mayor: 'Put aside protests' after officer deaths
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/22/bratton-de-blasio-nypd-shootings/20754685/
"New York Mayor Bill de Blasio on Monday tried to cool the heated controversy swirling around the fatal shooting of two NYPD police officers, calling on New Yorkers to "put aside protests" and focus on the families of the fallen patrolmen...."
... is the message so that they can draw the attention away from this...
hEHT6C1mB8Y
Tangri
23rd December 2014, 03:09
Thank you SilentFeather, to research more on the scene.
Do not get upset to Roisin. Your claim came, very close timing with your previous post and had only 2 pictures to prove it.
The Crime-scene analysis was very difficult to analysis with, only 2 pictures without supporting data.
It might be false flag operation staged with actors,/ expendable real officers. (and it can be %80 is probable (with my gut feeling)
"Clean police car's driver window "or clean door nub also can be explainable with no exit point(other side) and neural paralysis(officer did not feel the shut wound and did not touch it)
It's probability is high with Mayor's approach to police hostility in recent past, now they are doing same thing what Toronto police did for former Toronto's mayor. The only difference is Canadians were wearing soft gloves when they tried to blame their obstacles.
Roisin
24th December 2014, 15:18
The NYC incident, may very well be a False Flag Event.
Yup... those shoe laces are mighty suspicious!
SilentFeathers
24th December 2014, 16:43
This thread contains a lot more in it that just the shoe laces if you would put aside personal quirks about me you might notice this event DOES have several strange anomalies to it that could perhaps point to it being some type of staged event. (a total false flag is a bit strong I reckon). If I'm totally wrong I'm wrong, so what!.....but, I do have a right to my opinion and to post some of my observations without being derailed by personal accusations and somewhat insulting remarks by you towards me.
You have shown yourself clearly to me Roisin.
Bob
24th December 2014, 17:29
This thread contains a lot more in it that just the shoe laces [..]
this event DOES have several strange anomalies [..]
to it that could perhaps point to it being some type of staged event.
[..]
Hi Jim and the thread contributors.
I've snipped out some of the PM type of dialog :) PM's really seem to me to be the best place for that, yes?
I am interested in what is being seen as the other anomalies.
I've paid attention to the micro-macro events across the 'board' looking for the commonality (fractal commonality).. An anomaly showing up could point to other upcoming 'events' scheduled to bring forth an agenda. As I pointed out in post #55 above, with Colorado Sheriff's they wouldn't sit still for gun legislation, and a cop shooting certainly would be a fractal agenda, indicative of a pattern starting to appear.. Getting to the who is doing "staging" for what Agenda seem to me a worthwhile endeavor digging into a deeper conspiracy..
Roisin
24th December 2014, 18:15
I'm rather new to all of this conspiracy stuff but I'm very confused because on the one end TPTB set things up in numerous ways for population control and certainly, the more guns and ammo out there, the more fatalities via guns be they intentional or accidental. If this wasn't so, then our police dept's would not care one way or another about gun control issues and would not be lobbying congress for gun control either.
So maybe it IS the higher echelon of law enforcement that have taken things into their own hands by setting up what may very well be false flag events with a few sacrificial lambs from their own people to send out their message that gun control is needed. Anti-gun activists from other orgs most likely would be involved in this too.
TPTB don't give a hill of beans if we all shoot each other down as, once again, they're working very hard to kill most of us off in other insidious and nefarious ways as it is. To say that they are the ones responsible for these current shooting incidents for gun control does not make any logical sense considering what we already know about them.
SilentFeathers
24th December 2014, 18:48
The NYPD has a right to be pissed, but they are showing much constraint imo just naming DeBlasio. Part of the conspiracy IMO is the NYPD not naming others that have shown the same type of behavior DeBlasio has shown in the recent past......
Conspiracy aside....
Huge crowds in NYC calling for dead cops and suddenly there are 2 NYPD cops killed????? I'm not an attorney but isn't calling for the murder of another a crime? such as: "making terroristic threats"?????
Perhaps even these two murdered cops were sent out more than once in their careers to investigate someone who called another and threatened to kill that person, perhaps even these two deceased cops actually arrested someone before for "making terroristic threats" or someone for threatening to kill another....
Yet crowds calling for the murder of cops are not even verbally warned by public figures such as; DeBlasio, Holder, or even the President, to tone it down some????
Yes, something is totally wrong with this picture.............
ThePythonicCow
24th December 2014, 19:06
Huge crowds in NYC calling for dead cops and ...
Apparently this is NOT what happened. The infamous protest reported as calling for cop killing was (1) in Baltimore, not New York, and (2) did not say that at all.
A correction was posted by the local Fox News channel in Baltimore, but has so far as I know not been published as widely as the initial, erroneous, claims that protestors were calling for killing cops:
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FOX45 News Interviews Tawanda Jones, Sister of Tyrone West (http://foxbaltimore.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/fox45-news-interviews-tawanda-jones-sister-tyrone-west-34628.shtml)
Updated: Tuesday, December 23 2014, 11:05 AM EST
Tawanda Jones sat down with Fox45 News Monday night, one day after we aired a clip of her from a protest in Washington, DC where we reported protesters were chanting "kill a cop"
Tawanda's brother, Tyrone West, died in police custody in 2013. She told us the chant was actually "We won't stop….We can't stop…. 'til killer cops…. are in cell blocks".
We have apologized for the error and followed up with an interview with Tawanda.
Watch the full interview here (http://foxbaltimore.com/news/features/raw-news/stories/fox45-news-interviews-tawanda-jones-705.shtml#.VJjDCQRDoA).
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HuffingtonPost has more details in their article Local News: Protesters Didn't Actually Chant 'Kill A Cop.' Sorry For The 'Misunderstanding' (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/23/baltimore-news-kill-a-cop_n_6372468.html).
East Sun
24th December 2014, 19:15
'They' are doing a fine job in divide and conquer, as in pitting us against each other.
I am continually trying to find ways to make the people at large wake up to the facts, but the media is part of the problem.
1, Kill your tv
2, Mention calmly to friends what's happening IYO.
3, Denounce the two/one party system, as it is now
4, Prepare to not vote or write none of the above, when the time comes
5, IMO, NO more Bushes or Clintons or Dictators.
6, Tell people about Avalon, Alex Jones, David Ike etc.
7, Alert people about possible Genocide as indicated by the Georgia Guide Stones (Who are they supposed to be guiding?)
*Please feel free to add to this list*
SilentFeathers
24th December 2014, 19:16
It's almost completely impossible to know what or who to believe anymore Paul. The correction you mention is like the fine print in the back of the newspaper listed in the legal section, the dead cop phrase is on the front page, headliner, for all to read.
Regardless, someone wants a race war, a major rift between cops and civilians, major public division on many fronts, and chaos period, and perhaps even a police state! (with even all police departments policed.....)
Roisin
24th December 2014, 19:29
I can't see that the media did not make a mistake like that un- intentionally. So this indicates to me that those who control the media are trying to polarize diff. demographics to provoke chaos.
So why do they want to destabilize the country like this now? Are they planning for something big to come up out of the blue? Something that the vast majority of us are totally unprepared for?
Like a stock market crash? A war? martial law? etc....
What's happening now with these shooting incidents may just be a diversion for what's really going on now behind the scenes. Whatever it is, they want to catch us off guard when it pops into our national consciousness.... completely out-of-the-blue.
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'They' are doing a fine job in divide and conquer, as in pitting us against each other.
I am continually trying to find ways to make the people at large wake up to the facts, but the media is part of the problem.
1, Kill your tv
2, Mention calmly to friends what's happening IYO.
3, Denounce the two/one party system, as it is now
4, Prepare to not vote or write none of the above, when the time comes
5, IMO, NO more Bushes or Clintons or Dictators.
6, Tell people about Avalon, Alex Jones, David Ike etc.
7, Alert people about possible Genocide as indicated by the Georgia Guide Stones (Who are they supposed to be guiding?)
*Please feel free to add to this list*
Note to self: Examine the Georgia Guide Stone's.
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