My last post.

[Eric J (Viking)]

What a palava!!

You guys are going around in circles feeding your thought patterns with energy it could do without. Think about it!!

Some of you know that I have decided not to post here anymore…but!! This will be my last post. (you can still Pm me or message)Anyway I will try my utmost to do what I believe we all came here for.


What an eye opener … It really has been an enlightening experience if only you could all do the same just for a week or so. I have pulled away from the confusion that surrounds us each day, and it has given me the opportunity to see what is happening from a different perspective. We come here seeking answers and end up going around in circles. Most of us here more or less know how we got here in this mess and we have the knowledge to awaken the consciousness of many. The PTB have us under control in more ways than you could imagine…To those of you that have read ‘The Paradigm series’ by George Green and other books with ‘the message‘, then you should know what you should be doing. This is the time for awakening the groups that we are all in. now is the time that you need to put all your energies into awakening the friends and close families.

To summarise in simple terms , perhaps because I am a simple man. An easy read format. Please read.



WE ARE THE CHANGE

First of all we need to understand the power of the consciousness and how it moulds our reality. This is the first lesson of understanding how we can change the present cycle we are living in.

Most people are beginning to realise the power of the mind and how easy it is to control situations and our environments and intimately the outcome of life itself.

Scientists today are starting to learn that our consciousness creates matter. So in effect we create our own reality. We are all controlled much more than we think and if only we knew the rules of our consciousness and how we have come by the life we lead, we would be more in control of the world and it would be a happier place to live. We would have far more abundance, there would be no starvation, and no wars, religions would unite. We would understand that we are not alone and never have been.

You see we have only ourselves to blame for the way our lives and planet have turned out. We have bought into everything that is offered. We have all contributed to everything around us. And I mean everything. I mean the wars. The starving millions. The suffering of nations. Even natural disasters. Everything bad on this planet has been created by our thought processes. In other words we can say that our collective consciousness has created the reality we live in. Now whether there our groups at the top of society with the understanding and knowledge of how to control the masses of people ,or whether everything that has happened on this planet is a direct result of our collective consciousness, it doesn’t really matter. What does matter is we how understand this works, and how we can take up the challenge of change.

What we all need to do is change our thought patterns and not be dictated by our environments and ignore what we digest daily from the mainstream newspapers, daily news articles and magazines and anything else we might read. Don’t get me wrong its ok reading, but remember do not let the imaging of what you have read control your consciousness, don‘t dwell. Whatever thought process you adopt and you keep that thought within your mindset, you will turn the thought into reality. As a species we all need to grow up and realize that we have made this mess and we alone can only put it right. So we have to raise our thinking patterns to a higher frequency and not be dictated with all that is around us.

Now picture different groups of people around the world. Picture different countries and cultures and even the people in lands that have not the resources to feed themselves. Do you ask why they just keep going around in a constant cycle and never getting anywhere. How is it that certain groups are ok but other have not got the surroundings to support them or feed them. Think of all the wars around the planet that have been ongoing for decades and decades. Perhaps some of the wars have been orchestrated or manipulated for greed and for support of the war machine. But again we have only ourselves to blame for letting our minds accept this way of thinking and buying into this negative projection of energy.

Our thoughts create the reality we live in. So therefore we have created our planet and the way it has been shaped over the past 1000 years. If we have had civilisations before, and my research has informed me we have. Then we have gone through the same old mistakes as usual. We have destroyed past civilisations by the same process. THOUGHT CREATES MATTER. Remember that. Embed those words into your minds and think about before you go to sleep. Remind yourself that whatever is on your minds the possibility is that your consciousness will create the matter and turn it into reality.

You can now see why we are all living the way we are. With all the papers we are reading and different types of TV programs. This is all moulding the life we live.

Think. Imagine you are living in a very small village that offers only a very limited choice of luxuries. You struggle every day to make ends meet. You live in a ramshackle of hut. You only just get by each day. You live in the absolute bare minimum. With this in mind what are your thoughts each and every day. You are feeding your consciousness with the ongoing cycle and the life you have manifested just goes around in the same old cycles. With the knowledge of how our thoughts create our reality we could change the outcome. It doesn’t’t really matter how scarce the surroundings are, the trick is to continually feed your consciousness with a different picture so the outcome is not the same. We can all change the current paradigm but we need to know the rules and how to change it.

Our thought processes have a lot to answer for and create more than we can imagine! We all have this gift and if only we all knew how to use this we would all be in abundance. However the way things have taken course has led us into this reality and we all need to awaken from this slumber. If we carry on with this current paradigm the planet will not be able to support us and nature will take its course. You cannot carry on indefinitely with all this negative energy sapping up emotional pockets of consciousness which in return create negative manifestation of matter. The law of karma will intervene as has also happened in the past and mother nature decides herself how to correct the energy flow.

Lets think of another example of human consciousness in work. Just imagine a normal day in UK or US. It does not matter where because the outcome will be the same. First thing in the morning your thoughts are processing what you will be doing for the rest of the day. Your mind reminds you of the chores you need to do to get by the end of the day. Whether it is stressful or not you are already conditioning your consciousness and creating your reality for the day. And also last thing at night you do the same, in fact any negative scenes you may have bumped into during the course of the day your mind is working overload and again you are structuring your mind with brain conditioning. This is typical consciousness working against us. We have been conditioning ourselves like this for thousands of years. We need to make a break from this cycle and create a New Paradigm.

Let me give you another example of the consciousness working on a smaller time scale. Ok lets say we are watching the news and they are reporting about a war going in somewhere in the world (at this time there are 47 wars on going in this moment in time). The reporter shows us images of a war strewn landscape with trees obliterated, houses blown apart, looking like old ruins, children running scared and crying, hunger setting in and food shortages everywhere, food aid not getting to the points, smoke bellowing from various buildings, cars ablaze and people cowering on every corner. I am sure you get the picture. So anyway where do you think our thought processes will take us. Shortly afterwards you would be thinking about this and more than likely a few thoughts of the graphicness would filter through during the course of the day and further conditioning our minds to create a reality out of yet another negative thought process. You can see why this particular vision has been created time and time again by embedding in our consciousness. THOUGHT CREATES MATTER. We are shaping our lives every day. Day in day out. How many times have we seen these images streaming through the TV. How many times have you contributed without knowing what you are doing. The subconcious is all powerful. Nourish it with the right food!!

With all these examples its pretty easy to imagine why we are going through these continuous cycle of living. We just go around and around. The cogs are turning around each day and nothing changes, it’s the same old cyclical event time after time. All around the world whether its wars, starvation, working, living it’s the same old.

So what can we do?

First of all we need to combat any negative thoughts that seep into our consciousness. For every negative image you see on TV, in magazines, newspapers and various other sources of information you need to replace that image within your consciousness, with a reversal of what you have just watched or seen. So in other words if you have just seen the news with the graphic scenery as I explained earlier here “images of a war strewn landscape with trees obliterated, houses blown apart, looking like old ruins, children running scared and crying, hunger setting in and food shortages everywhere, food aid not getting to the points, smoke bellowing from various buildings, cars ablaze and people cowering on every corner!”.
Get to work on your mindset and reverse the image, picture in your mind beautiful landscapes with trees full of bright coloured leaves, houses with bright colours, children playing, beautiful clear flowing rivers, people talking being happy, just imagine everything in abundance. Your consciousness will soon take over with these positive images and create a better reality than the other thought process you would normally adopt. This small act of thinking and transference of positive energies works every time. The stronger the intent the more of a reality you will create from thought. So try to visualize these images as clear as you can. Now sometimes it is very difficult to train your thoughts in a different route whilst taking in disruptive and negative images. But trust me, practice makes perfect. Do this also last thing at night and first thing in the morning. THOUGHT CREATES MATTER.

I remember reading a good few years back about a man who was a small time thief. He was just a petty thief who spent most of his time in jail. Now every time he got caught, the judge would sentence him to a few months in prison. Shortly after his release he would go back to stealing again and get caught almost immediately. Now this chap went to all sorts of help with various groups to break out of the habit, but kept finding himself back to square one. Back again. He was asked why he kept stealing, but couldn’t answer as to why he kept doing this time and time again. He knew it was wrong but something took over in the act of stealing. What he did say was that in prison he finds it comfortable and free of any hassle. And that when he was released he would often think about the hassle free world of being in prison. Now what this man was doing was conditioning his ‘mind set’ with his consciousness of being in prison. Whilst he was out of prison, his consciousness took over in order to get him back where his sub-conscious mind wanted him to go. So unbeknown to him he was being steered towards what he had fed his mind with. He conditioned his mind to go back to prison with these daily thought patterns thus creating what he thought into his reality. He could not break the cycle no matter what he did.

This is a perfect example of how we become trapped into our own reality. Our thought processes are continually repeating themselves again and again. We create what we have been doing for years and years. Yes it is difficult to get out of the cycle. But we must change the cycle in order to evolve as humans and not be dictated to by what is presented to us each and every day.

We will reach bifurcation which ever way you look at it. The current system cannot sustain itself much longer. If we carry on with the wars as they are, we will ultimately run out of money and we will have global collapse. Already US are trillions of dollars in debt, which is mathematically impossible to pay off the debt. So at what time do we say enough is enough, we need to change the Paradigm. Our thought patterns will change this. As I am writing this article the US has doubled its military expenditure in just one decade!! What are we going to do with all these machines. All we are doing is feeding the war machine. The war machine is the biggest racket on this planet. This is typical of what we are all engineering with our minds with the War Machine. We see negative images on TV and various news articles, we in return instil fear into our consciousness and we subconsciously buy into the war machine without realising what we are doing. We feed the machine day in day out. Take note of the previous examples of what happens when we watch images of negative content. Use the tools that I have suggested to switch your ‘mind set’ into positive vibrations.

To say the world is our oyster is an understatement. The universe is diverse with all different types of life, it is unimaginable. We must adopt the rules and know how to use them before we can be invited to the world above. With our current thought patterns we will always be suppressing ourselves from further knowledge of what other secrets we have in the Universe. Yes our thoughts have kept us out of reach of many things that we could have been privy to. We have suppressed ourselves to the extent that we are acting with robotic minds. We have become controlled robots in our own little world which is neither reality or fiction. It is sort of a play, and we are dictating how the play unfolds, but with the wrong mind set. We need to change our thought patterns towards a positive outcome. And we will.
We must all move into a creative stance, not a permissive posture. I know its very difficult to do with our past life experiences, but it can be done. We have to develop a much bigger creative imagination to win over what we have created in front of us. If we sit on our laurels and wait for the times too change, it will be a disaster waiting to happen. We have got to change pattern of thought NOW. Ask yourself what sort of life would you want your children to have? Look at what we have now, and imagine if we carry on with the present cycle, what will it be like in 20 or so years time. Don’t choose victim hood. Make your stand and make a better humanity. Take your thoughts to where you want to go. Your limitations are only within your mind set. The only thing that will be lacking is the ability to trust that this process indeed can reach a positive outcome. Thought released will return in manifestation in a reality more magnificent than we can all imagine. Please understand that THOUGHT CREATES MATTER. Its up to us what type of ‘matter’ we want and deliver.

Don’t allow yourself to dwell on what we see everyday on TV and the other sources of information, but turn your thought towards what you would like to experience. We have built a fantasy land around us and seems almost impossible to break the mould, but break the mould we will. We watch TV play with computers listen to radios and all other types musical gadgets, that we have no time to really think about why we are here and where we are heading. Just sit down for a few minutes and think of all the distraction we have created here on planet earth. We need to feed ourselves with some other source of food for nourishing our consciousness. At the moment the type of food we are taking in daily is not what it should be. Do we want to become robots adopting a 9-5 routine living each day as we pretend this is how it should be. Don’t kid yourself . There is so much more than we have given ourselves, but only we can awaken the our thought processes in order to awaken us. Lets not become the laughing stock of the galactic family. They know we can do this and have handed down clues for all of us to see. Just ask your thoughts to take you where we should be.

Yes I know with the realisation of we got here and where we could go is a big shock to the system or even ego. But what I tell you here I believe is true and can be researched within the confines of your own home. With the way the internet is used, it is one of the biggest libraries we can ever explore. The truth is out there and ‘the truth will set you free’. Remember this is our reality. We created it. We can change it. We alone can alter the course of our lives. Don’t be lazily caught up in what is presented by outlets, which are beyond our control. Yes some have been presented in a way that we have no control over what we witness. But it doesn’t mean we have to buy into what is on offer. You can visit a shop with all sorts of goodies that tempt us into buying. If you don’t like the sound of it. DON’T BUY INTO IT. Take your thoughts elsewhere. Only you are in charge of your thoughts. Don’t let the negative side hi-jack them again. It is your choice, as I have said you can create your reality just like you create your dreams most nights, but if you do not realize your power and how you can change the ‘play’ then your life will become like a flag blowing in the wind…just like a passenger on a train going around in circles. So visualize the world you want to be in and take control of your destiny. Anything you can think of becomes a possibility.


THINK/THOUGHT=MANIFESTATION=REALITY

WE ARE THE CHANGE

HAPPY THINKING GUYS

I LOVE YOU ALL

Eric J/Viking

[MariaDine]

A gift to you Viking ! :) Be sure to always speak from the heart. You will Know if you do it, because it will bring you peace and calm. Namasté. MD

Focus, balance and determination

You are living on Earth a physical reality in which many are arrested or imprisoned by the karmic programs that you have accepted in various incarnations.
Outside the real you have practiced, lived on planet Earth, you also accept the karmic load of Dharma and emotional involvement in various aspects of life and faith and power struggle. With all this, you have accumulated an excess weight of feelings, emotions, dharma or karma that keeps them trapped in the cycle Earth.

As you understand it in a loving way and not painful is possible that the hierarchy of these holograms Anchoring undo and remove this information from your electromagnetic field. In the opinion of you that means that karma no longer part of the overweight and are reversed in energy aid in momentum for each of you to break free and go out and ascend the first of the Earth.

However, for it is indeed possible is the most important work of the heart (Flame Trina). So that you can transcend the damage. The losses are the formats that each accepted this or another life of religious dogma, good and evil, God and the Devil ... These concepts you have the imprisoned because they were not true, but they were holograms installed in your frame of life on Earth and also on other planets interests but by far than you realize.

When you allow the spiritual hierarchy, spiritual teachers when they ask the Anchoring of Quantum Healing Star to help them, requesting their intervention in your life, you need to be open heart to the wisdom of the divine plan to act in your life.
But often the wisdom of the divine plan meets an obstacle: the fear of you! Fear of change!

The changes are often necessary for you to mature and able to step into a new phase of life, however the fear of the unknown makes you step back and remain unable to take the next step. With this, you end up re contracts for pain and suffering and still end up getting stuck in the wheel Sansara, back to back as you understand. So many of you have particles in the Threshold.

These particles are exactly what the Threshold? Moments that you lived in this life or another time where you had the opportunity to follow the light and not followed by fear. They were trapped by fear, the feelings and emotions that the inharmonious disembody led to the Threshold. There is a frequency on the Threshold, a part of you, a feeling that is issued for you there. You're on Earth but a part of you is stuck on the Threshold. When you work with the heart may request that the spiritual hierarchy locate these sites and remove those energies that are there ... what are you even on the timeline arrested by feelings of hatred, revenge, envy, anger .... feelings today are no longer needed.

What is the secret? With the consciousness of today, you can clean your past. With the awareness of today you can go back in time, going to the Threshold and free yourselves! When you remove this or these particles are actually cleaning up and neutralizing a thought-form one-way emotion that remained or remains stuck in a reality that is ever more necessary.
This way, you are planting a seed for some time from now have a more stable energy level and this means leaving the wheel Sansara.

Often a lack of understanding of you than is the Threshold prevents you to get cleaning. The cleaning does not mean you have to come at a very dense, who does his work is Anchoring. These hierarchies work for you, since you really understand and this job request.

You need to understand and accept that light and not light that you have committed is the school of mastery to be a co-creator.
A co-creator has to know the light and no light so you know and know what is the best way, the best attitude, the best way to co-create and overcome obstacles that may exist.

It's as if you were in a school and schools are "evidence of knowledge, obstacles to be overcome. In several of these races are lost because you have accepted and lived by these lies lies. Now is the time to live the Truth.
Truth must be your heart!
Truth is what your heart leads! Not what people say! Always follow your heart that determines it.

Your heart has something you do not understand what is the Threefold Flame. This frequency Threefold Flame, the Divine Presence or whatever name you want to call is your connection with the Supreme Source. Actually, you are such a frequency, the particle! The rest you have a physical body and subtle bodies are nothing more than 3600 different frequencies of the same atom.

Each of these frequencies is a divine archetype SOURCE EVERYTHING is within you, when you feel it and live, all subtle bodies parallel realities and cease to exist because you now merged with the Source. At this time you finish school, came to what was scheduled to be. But while this merger does not occur, are subject to holograms to believe that they are something they are not.

Being Earthman, sirian, canopean, Pleiadian or any other race turns out to be a hologram. You are not that, you're much more than that! However, briefly are experiencing these places, which are complementary to earth reality. That's one small step in your journey into the cosmos. Do not give much importance to the beings who accompany you are Orion, Sirius, or anywhere else, what matters is the essence of energy: harmonious or inharmonious.

If energy is harmonic mean a quicker way back to Source, if the energy is inharmonious means some stumbling blocks that have to learn to overcome. Simply this. You have to make the choice. This is free will you learn to choose. You may choose the easier path of harmony or longer, the stones, but the choice is up to each and spiritual hierarchy and Anchoring respects the decision, because this is the school you. The hierarchies can not interfere, the cosmic law requires that the spiritual hierarchy accept the path chosen by each child. Each must follow what you believe and are believed to be the best. We can only help, intervene when you ask for this help. There are some beings who benefit from the emotional and spiritual grace of you to engage them and keep them tied to misconceptions.

What you must understand is that in your heart you can break free from all karmic processes and disharmonious as you seek within you a balance and to set guidelines for your life and fight for them and win, thereby altering the elemental dogmatists who interfered so far. From these decisions the Anchoring can help keep that energy, however, when you are lost and seek spiritual food everywhere but unfocused, their spiritual mentors can not help you! You must have a focus, balance and determination that the Anchoring, your guides and spirit helpers can help you effectively. Feel in your heart which is the focus of you, what you should focus on personal growth and follow. Just that.

Stay in the Light
Voronandeck Shtar - Live message http://www.shtareer.com.br/

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Eric:

I tried to look up who wrote that, but came up blank.

Who was the author? I'd like to insert a reference link. It was nicely written, and I agree with all of it.

But with this rider: as Jim Rohn says (I'm a great fan of his, especially in his earlier days): If you're a gardener, and you're tending your garden, and you close your eyes and say:

"There are no weeds! There are no weeds! There are no weeds!"

... They'll take your garden.

[Steven]

...as Jim Rohn says (I'm a great fan of his, especially in his earlier days): If you're a gardener, and you're tending your garden, and you close your eyes and say:

"There are no weeds! There are no weeds! There are no weeds!"

... They'll take your garden.

Yep, and itll be a stolen garden without weeds... :)

Well, to be honest, the subconsciousness mind makes no difference of what you wish and what you wish not, it takes your thoughts/feelings as granted and do with it. If one wish a garden without weed, wishing not to have weed won't bring thieves, but weeds.

Namaste, Steven

[scootiep]

Hi, Eric:

I tried to look up who wrote that, but came up blank.

Who was the author? I'd like to insert a reference link. It was nicely written, and I agree with all of it.

But with this rider: as Jim Rohn says (I'm a great fan of his, especially in his earlier days): If you're a gardener, and you're tending your garden, and you close your eyes and say:

"There are no weeds! There are no weeds! There are no weeds!"

... They'll take your garden.



You can look at it with a different perspective too as thoughts creates things, matter or reality - "If you think the weeds will grow they will".

In answer to your question the author is Viking :) and what wise words from a great soul!!

Have a break from here Viking, your thoughts and words are needed for others to share and pass on to other people so we can ALL create a positive loving world.

Scott

[RAKMEiSTER]

thank thank thank you viking, i agree fully and totally and with some some topics(say false flag/obama indai) peeps go round and round in cycles and create together what we think constantly about, thats mass projection on massive negative scale directed into out real live.
we need the think/create diffrently on a group scale , and break the cage. along side that goes teh input of new energies previously not here. use that energy cause.
cause when ones thoughts and state of being/vibration takes that energy into oneself and feel with teh heart not left side brain, the right side can grow as right and left needs to be in sync and harmony guided by the heart and 3rd eye making left and rigght side brain ONE.
to become aware you must gradually change, step by step nothing comes instantly. if you dont work for the better of yourself no-one will and those feeding of negativity will be be kept able by ones one unwillingness. think bigger think better think with more love and harmony inside and outside your body. you attract what you reflect tobe inside.
ill think ill stop here ale i might seen to go on and on and on, i tend to use less words with more meaning where i can.
so again respect and love to viking. as you have opened a lotof minds overtime as a guide or beacon for a better positive direction. ty and <3

rakmeister@nl

[Peace of Mind]

Nice

Just continue to let your heart be your guide, it will steer you where you need to go. As long as you stay true to self and can recognise the potential harms seeding on the horizons of your action...the universe will be at your mercy.

Peace

[Sabrina]

Totally agree with you Viking, our thoughts are the most powerful thing we have, so it's wise to focus your energy on what you want - not what you don't want.

[HORIZONS]

Viking, You need to stick around - your posts help to bring balance to this forum - and besides that You have the right to post your opinions no matter if anyone likes them or not - and I see that many do. We all just need to keep expanding our horizons ~
http://web.me.com/expanding_horizons/Expanding_Horizons/The_Mission.html

[Kulapops]

Well, Viking , me ole 'tater.

I'd be the first to say, drop the 'last' post thing. You'll be welcome here to post any time you like. And I can tell you from experience, that the urge to post here again will come soon enough. It would be a strong, and resolved individual, not to mention a complete change of stripes, who can look at all that's going on in the world, with their fellow men, feel the truth building inside of them, and not feel a desire to talk about what they feel in an appropriate place. For all its goods and ills, Avalon is currently such a land.

You know how I've felt about some of your posts in the past. My own frustrations have been because I feel people are not looking internally enough. Resolutions, if any , will come in the forms of energy and thought. So I care not for the endless streams of 'boy we're gonna get it soon' (as in , a right royal pasting) however well meaning the messenger is at sparing the populous, giving a heads up so that all are 'aware'. In truth the only awareness we need in my opinion is self awareness. The only enemy is the self. The only 'control' of our lives, our own subconscious.. and not the illuminati.

They had nothing to do with the pleasant stroll I had this afternoon in the fading winter sun. It was I. They had nothing to do with the thoughts I had or the dreams I considered. Any failure in those dreams finding fruit are mine alone.

Sloth, jealousy, haterd, envy, cowardice, fear, righteousness, selfishness. These are enemies enough.

So I ask you, please do not leave this place, but stay with your new found awareness, the lessons you have learned, and share with us your real truth. and not those articles found on a trillion similar sites. For it is your truth that I am all ears to hear.

With love and the greatest respect,

K

[kcw_one]

I agree on most points. I must respectfully disagree about the need to "wake up the masses". I think it's a mistake to take responsibility for awakening anyone but oneself. A question to all of you: who woke you up? Did someone jolt you with some kind of amazing and enlightening conversation, book, or website? Or did you wake up of your own accord, when the time was right for you? I read so many posts where the writer is exasperated (and sometimes downright condescending) about how so many people are not awake and blah blah blah. I too have shared this upset and anguish, and there was a time in my life where I tried to convince anyone who would listen that there was so much to he universe than they'd previously thought. But then I realized that giving all these "unenlightened" souls all this information that wasn't appropriate for them was like teaching a highschool student how to speak Aramaic. Interesting perhaps, but they just don't have the occasion to use it.

I sympathize with people who are upset about the possibility of souls going down he wrong path by not waking up or whatever, but did they ever stop to realize that it isn't their place to judge for another what is the right or wrong path? Their are infinite paths back to oneness or whatever, and no one path is any better than another, just different. Each one's path is appropriate for only them. Some of the souls here may not see the light this time and THAT'S OKAY! Some may be deceived and be led into yet more control and oppression and other yucky nonsense, BUT THAT'S OKAY -- FOR THEM. I know it's difficult to accept. It's like watching a loved one go through tough times.

Feel free to try to awaken people if you feel you must take responsibility fir that. Or you can decide to be open tonsharin what you know and offer it when asked. Totally different vibration between the two. I too have read the George Green's material, and I like a lot of what it says. But don't forget that the one's who filled George in with that info also have their own agenda. Every group or entity communicating with humans here now does. And so do each and every one of us. Just be careful to fully understand what these agendas are before you get wrapped up in them.

Each and every one of us who come to forums like this one are not done yet with our own awakening. My most humble advice is to put more attention on your own individual process. I notice a lot of debate and arguing, and lately these disagreements have gotten quite heated and sometimes have turned into verbal scraps that don't feel quite right for a forum that's supposed to be about love and light and all that. A certain amount of conflict is to be expected, and disagreement is healthy, but when we take it upon ourselves to make ourselves RIGHT and another WRONG, something is lost.

Each will find their own way. There is no need to force the matter. Events will unfold, and all will go towards what is appropriate for them as individuals. A mass awakening of the whole of humanity is unlikely, since I feel that not all are ready for that, whatever it turns out to be. We are nearing a crossroads, with a whole bunch of different optional paths to take. We need not fear to take the wrong path. You'll know you are on the right path simply by seeing that your feet are on it. Allow others the freedom to follow theirs as well.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Viking, You need to stick around - your posts help to bring balance to this forum - and besides that You have the right to post your opinions no matter if anyone likes them or not - and I see that many do. We all just need to keep expanding our horizons ~
http://web.me.com/expanding_horizons/Expanding_Horizons/The_Mission.html

Exactly. Even though we've not interacted much i and many others here really value your posts Viking, you do help balance the forum and i for one have found lots of your input most valuable. i would be sad to see you go.
Hurritt

[sunflower]

Viking, there are lots of good folk here who resonate with or are interested enough to debate your ideas. Either way, we take in, digest and add to our inner core of knowing. I add my voice to those urging you to remain. Avalon is a good place to visit to find like-minded people. You will be sorely missed.

[CetaceousOne]

Viking,

If that was your last post, it was a damn good one.
You will be deeply missed!

Sincerely,

C1

[shiva777]

while you make some good points Eric,I find much of what you wrote VERY naive and part of the problem,rather than the solution...just as you have the right to be direct and honest about your views on things so do I and everyone else

.the new-age religion is reflected in much of your post and that is another CONTROL system of thought...ask yourself,why am I REALLY leaving?..."do I feel threatened by other peoples posts that challenge my point of view?"..."am I too attached to my own beliefs ?"...just a few questions...

here are a few links that may help you to see many of the thoughts and beliefs you conveyed in your post from a different perspective

new age love and light fallacies

http://in2worlds.net/new-age-love-and-light-fallacies

new-age movement distortions

http://wemustknow.net/2010/06/new-age-movement/

common new-agey misunderstandings

http://educate-yourself.org/mnt/realitycreation1part08nov02.shtml

common new-agey paradoxes and distortions

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/huntley/esp_huntley_13.htm

sending love and light?

http://www.kenpage.com/articles/distortion.html

[Arpheus]

Stay brother,our work is far from over as a matter of fact the learning curve never ends,and kulapops is absolutely right about the only awareness that we need is self awareness those are words well spoken kula my friend.

[rhythm]

http://www.artillery.net/new/images/lastpost.jpg

there are no good buys for us vikin me old mucker :love::alien::wacko:

[Rocky_Shorz]

wow Viking, you've been with us forever, you will be really missed here...

You've always been the best at coming up with things hidden from the best of sleuths...

Hope you'll still drop in when you find a juicy tidbit to share with us...

Peace be with you,

Rocky

[truthseekerdan]

I tried to look up who wrote that, but came up blank.

Who was the author? I'd like to insert a reference link. It was nicely written, and I agree with all of it.

It was pulled from the collective thinking.

Thank you Eric (viking), and hope you have a change of heart :thumb:

Blessings to you, :love:

Dan

[fifi]

Hi Viking, make it your "last" post for today only. And tomorow, or next week, or whenever, you find something interesting you want to share with us, please do. Don't let the word "last post" stop you from sharing information with us, the community that you love.

fifi

[avid]

I had a spiritual discussion with my 'sensitive' mother. She has definitely tried to focus on positivity. She acknowledges she may be not able to alter her arthritic debilitating existence here, but every positive thought and visualisation for her nearest and dearest are her comfort.
I am concentrating on the positives - thank you Viking for all your wondrous earth changes. I will miss you... The earth changes are so important at the moment!
You've been a breath of fresh air - I appreciate so much all of your contributions. Bless xxxx

[Steven]

Dear Viking,

Keep posting, here or not, this is what really matters. Your 'last post' greatly resonate with me, you know it.

Have a nice day!

Namaste, Steven

[lotus]

Dear Viking,

Your LastPost resonate with me and I appreciate all your contributions espec. re Earth changes....Thank you:angel:

blessings and goodness to all

namasté lotus

[yiolas]

God Speed Eric J/Viking.
I hope that our paths cross again.
Many good thoughts and blessings to you and yours.
Love,
Yiola

[Swami]

Have a good flight Viking...

[xbusymom]

I am feeling the same as Viking... there is a certain initial frustration level with knowing what we Avalonians have found out, and then as if to add insult to injury, discovering that the sleepers refuse to acknowledge this newly exposed information... but the fact still remains that each person has their own path to walk and they will progress through the awakening stages at their own pace. We can lead a horse to water (or even bring the water to the horse) but we still cannot force them to drink it. We just have to wait for them to get thirsty enough to want it.

And then there is the daily necessity of living activity. My son said something the other day that made new common sense to me – knowing all the conspiracy plans and spending the whole day awakening the people does not help your individual family survive. The bills don’t pay themselves.

Viking, I, too, have come the full circle of aware-actions, and will have to jump out of the boat in order to show people “the HOW-TO’s” of walking on the water. But please don’t shut off your source of connectedness here, use this space as a respite area, come back time and again to get refreshed anew with the enlightened perspective of current events.
I intend on peeking in every now and then, but now I feel the need to go join viking in blazing some trails...:thumb:

[Anchor]

Viking,

Cracking post to go out on.

Words like that change the world, magnified by the intent those that read them in the spirit that they were intended.

John..

[Victoria Tintagel]

Hey Viking, thank you so much for your last post, which I hope isn't really the last one. My recent post in the thread "So, what will November bring us" is pointing at the same "going in circles" so I am on your side. The last piece of that post I copy here, bold line is for you, Viking, I love you very much :) There was never resistance against your posts on my side, please dare to boldly go (again) where no one has gone before, Viking? :)


Think for a moment and ask yourself "What is it that I deserve? What is it that I really want to give to myself?" If anything is possible, what's your first action? Don't hesitate and start giving yourself exactly that and each other No matter how crazy or fantastic, be creative and playfull. Dare to be as crazy as a monkey, funny as a lark, a king's jester, a clown. Try to find all of your faces and express them, they are all valuble to be expressed. That's the best thing to do, for now. There are almost no words to describe what changes will come and how they will shape our reality.

The feminine way is the path of experience and intuition. We have to learn to trust and go one step at a time. Every day is a day to live fully and it's name or number doesn't count, women know that, they are wise. We can treasure life and honor lady Gaia in that surrender to what is, being who you and I truly are. Within ourselves is the masculine and feminine energy, combined they are the ground on which to manifest our co-creation, the birthing of a New Earth. As Kiesha Crowther says "We are the rainbow people" We are the daring ones who have chosen to be here on crucial moments in time, experienced in many facets of the crystal, that is a metaphor for the Creation of Life through Consciousness and Love.

Lady Gaia loves us tremendously, I feel very much loved by her and she loves us to express that.
In the most glorious and pleasurable way, sharing with others. What on Earth do we need more, hmmmm?
It's always a two way event: it is our intention and attention, that is used purposefully, resulting in the shape of our reality,
I believe. Matter follows spirt. It starts with US, Lightwarriors.

We haven't a reference to really grasp the impact of this new extatic love, that is generated by lady Gaia. We are NOW in the middle of great change, but how can we deal with it, other then EXPERIENCE and JOY? Be fearful with a wide open heart, be angered, white hot blazing and tearful even in that. Life is meant to be all included, cause it's shaped and created by Love and Consciousness, the yin/yang of the Cosmos.
We step in unknown territory...on unknown Terra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqhNPY882kE Persian poem by Rumi

Let's live as passionately as we can, it's the only way to go...leave worries behind and become
a Lightwarrior. Smiling Tint.

[cloud9]

Dear viking,
I really really hope this is NOT your last post. You have been a great member of this forum for the longest time and your contribution to it has been even greater.
I totally agree with your post and that's why I don't pay any attention to fear mongering threads, I just don't read them but I still come here almost every day looking for good videos or anything else to learn from.
We have had other great members in the past who have gone and I still miss them, I think it's a shame you want lo leave now, you are important here.
Please think it over and stay, less active if you want but still here anyway. Would you?

[onawah]

I very much resonate with Viking's last post and thank him.
I have found that this forum has gone through many changes.
Sometimes there has been so much here of interest to read that I can't possibly get to it all, other times it's very sparse pickings.
I keep going back even then, hoping that something juicy will show up.
But I also feel like I am wasting time being online so much, and need to either plug back into being creative and/or getting out there into the world, or even just going inside more and being with myself or out into Nature.

One problem is that you never really know if things are going to start getting juicy again.
But I think the REAL problem comes from acting mechanically rather than intuitively. That is, checking in to PA just because your internal alarm clock rings automatically at a certain time, and you respond in an unconscious manner rather than checking in because you are getting an intuitive nudge that there IS really something there you want to check out.

I think TPTB may have been going all out recently to dumb us down as much as possible, possibly amping up HARP, increasing the chemtrials, etc. because they are getting very nervous about us waking up.
It may be that we are all feeling the effects of that, and Viking is reflecting that back to us with his post.

[ascendingstarseed]

It saddens me to hear your leaving, I've missed your posts the last few days and wondered where you were...The forum won't be the same without you and I hope after taking a break from PA you will return, your words of wisdom are always a bright spot on PA and as a kindred spirit, your enthusiastic optimism towards meeting our galactic family will be sorely missed...

You're star shines bright Viking, I'll miss your posts and will look for your return. Whatever you chose may the Light be with you and surely someday we will all come together to meet again on the other side!

With love,
Annette aka AscendingStarseed

[Zook]

Hi Viking,


[CENTER]What a palava!!
You guys are going around in circles feeding your thought patterns with energy it could do without. Think about it!!
Some of you know that I have decided not to post here anymore…but!! This will be my last post. (you can still Pm me or message)Anyway I will try my utmost to do what I believe we all came here for.


I'm going to lose a lot of friends over this ... but the truth is what matters ... and in the pursuit of truth, there sometimes comes a time when individuals will be forced to walk paths that are diametrically opposed to each other. There's no need for preamble here, so let me just say it ... I find your post to contain a lot of negative energy. Calling the discussion of the past few days palava (=palaver) ... is a weird parting gift from one who claims love and happy thinking. It also makes me wonder what thoughts (in the duty of change) that you are personally thinking.

It's been my experience that those who portray the pursuit of truth as an exercise in circular navigation, in futility, in feeding negative thought patterns ... are not interested in the truth. Fine. That's their choice. So be it. But when they scold others for journeying on the latter's own paths to truth (however wisely or unwisely), it gets a bit much, really.



What an eye opener … It really has been an enlightening experience if only you could all do the same just for a week or so. I have pulled away from the confusion that surrounds us each day, and it has given me the opportunity to see what is happening from a different perspective. We come here seeking answers and end up going around in circles. Most of us here more or less know how we got here in this mess and we have the knowledge to awaken the consciousness of many. The PTB have us under control in more ways than you could imagine…To those of you that have read ‘The Paradigm series’ by George Green and other books with ‘the message‘, then you should know what you should be doing. This is the time for awakening the groups that we are all in. now is the time that you need to put all your energies into awakening the friends and close families.

Thank you for that patronizing dissertation on how we should all conduct our journeys into the awakening.. But let me assure you, Vikes, quite a few of us actually know why we came to Avalon and how to fulfill its charter. Me? I came to observe Satyam, Nyayam, and Dharmam ... Truth, Fairness, and Justice. I believe all three to be a fundamental part of the Avalon charter. I certainly did not come here to be emotionally blackmailed by friendships that turn on a dime. If you wanted this thread to be your last post, I would've hoped you would have left with better energy. Castigation is not conducive to positive energy.

You don't have to be explicit, but the Simpsons' video thread appears to be the last straw that has cracked your patience with the Avalon energy. Well, let me reassure you, there was nothing about the exchange of information (wrt Simpsons' video) that invoked negative energy. It was all positive. From the first moment; to its confused and problematic (tho' never paranoid) middle extensions; to the final determination that the video was most likely a subtle commentary on the state of 9/11/2001 truth, ten years after the fact. As a bonus positive: nothing happened.

But because nothing happened, was that reason enough to characterize the discussion as palaver? You know, one imbued with all kinds of false energy (paranoia, disinformation, time-squandering, etc.)? IMO ... hardly! In fact, discussion is the rational approach to processing such information. I'd go one further. The 1997 previous Simpsons' video gave reasonable people no choice but to stay within proximity of the discussion. The case can equally be made that it's a dereliction of personal responsibility to turn away from such information given the previous 1997 Simpsons' episode. But that would be your choice to do so; moreover, it would be disrespectful of me to castigate you upon your choice (e.g. to give your mind to the beauty of inner solitude at a time when potential ugliness dominates the environment). After all, people arrive at truth in their own time and way ... and some don't arrive at all. Who am I to impose my arrival time and way on others?



To summarise in simple terms , perhaps because I am a simple man. An easy read format. Please read.

WE ARE THE CHANGE

First of all we need to understand the power of the consciousness and how it moulds our reality. This is the first lesson of understanding how we can change the present cycle we are living in.
Most people are beginning to realise the power of the mind and how easy it is to control situations and our environments and intimately the outcome of life itself. Scientists today are starting to learn that our consciousness creates matter. So in effect we create our own reality. We are all controlled much more than we think and if only we knew the rules of our consciousness and how we have come by the life we lead, we would be more in control of the world and it would be a happier place to live. We would have far more abundance, there would be no starvation, and no wars, religions would unite. We would understand that we are not alone and never have been.


All well and good, Vikes. In practice, your consciousness has created this current negative energy on Avalon. TPTB could not have done much better in fractionating the membership (between those who agree with you; those who feel condescended by your "heavy on rhetoric; light on facts" castigation; and those who are caught in between). Not that I think division will happen. IMHO, there are too many positive souls on Avalon to allow it.



You see we have only ourselves to blame for the way our lives and planet have turned out. We have bought into everything that is offered. We have all contributed to everything around us. And I mean everything. I mean the wars. The starving millions. The suffering of nations. Even natural disasters. Everything bad on this planet has been created by our thought processes. In other words we can say that our collective consciousness has created the reality we live in. Now whether there our groups at the top of society with the understanding and knowledge of how to control the masses of people ,or whether everything that has happened on this planet is a direct result of our collective consciousness, it doesn’t really matter. What does matter is we how understand this works, and how we can take up the challenge of change.


Sorry. I didn't buy into any of what you are accusing us of. And I don't buy into it now. Don't shift the blame from where it rightfully belongs (with those that have engineered things towards a NWO and a pyramid charter) ... to an amorphous colossal disempowered mass of human units (e.g. 2,000,000 plus people of Cambodia are not to blame for being slaughtered by the design of Kissinger, Pol Pot, and associates). Collective consciousness has all too often been used as a scapegoat to avoid bringing to justice those responsible for the engineered death and destruction of millions! One has to have real contempt for the victim to shift blame away from the perpetrator. I realize the new movements and philosophies underscore empowerment of the victim ... and I fully agree. But let's not abuse the concept to emancipate those from the righteous shackles of justice.



What we all need to do is change our thought patterns and not be dictated by our environments and ignore what we digest daily from the mainstream newspapers, daily news articles and magazines and anything else we might read. Don’t get me wrong its ok reading, but remember do not let the imaging of what you have read control your consciousness, don‘t dwell. Whatever thought process you adopt and you keep that thought within your mindset, you will turn the thought into reality. As a species we all need to grow up and realize that we have made this mess and we alone can only put it right. So we have to raise our thinking patterns to a higher frequency and not be dictated with all that is around us.


Sounds curiously like a repackaging of the ostrich (with its head in the proverbial sands) into a new age guru (with their head in the proverbial inner spirit).



Now picture different groups of people around the world. Picture different countries and cultures and even the people in lands that have not the resources to feed themselves. Do you ask why they just keep going around in a constant cycle and never getting anywhere. How is it that certain groups are ok but other have not got the surroundings to support them or feed them. Think of all the wars around the planet that have been ongoing for decades and decades. Perhaps some of the wars have been orchestrated or manipulated for greed and for support of the war machine. But again we have only ourselves to blame for letting our minds accept this way of thinking and buying into this negative projection of energy.


It's saying something that the Dalai Lama chose to flee to Dharamsala, India when the big guns moved in ... rather than stay and lead his Tibetan peoples out of bondage with consciousness energy. Could it be that in our third density, tools of the third density (e.g. guns) have more potency than tools of the fourth density (consciousness)? I don't have the answer for that. But I think it would be prudent - at least until we find the answer - to demonstrate some respect for our confinement in the third density. The proven tools of building society in the third density ... are Satyam, Nyayam, Dharmam. If any of these three tools are missing; then we lack the ability to build anything of significance. IMHO.



Our thoughts create the reality we live in. So therefore we have created our planet and the way it has been shaped over the past 1000 years. If we have had civilisations before, and my research has informed me we have. Then we have gone through the same old mistakes as usual. We have destroyed past civilisations by the same process. THOUGHT CREATES MATTER. Remember that. Embed those words into your minds and think about before you go to sleep. Remind yourself that whatever is on your minds the possibility is that your consciousness will create the matter and turn it into reality.


I'm mostly a rational person. Until there is scientific proof (not speculation) that thought creates matter, yours is just another utopian dream. Have you considered this possible alternative: maybe the third density is a prison? Maybe we're meant to make the most of it while we are here in prison ... knowing that our release is imminent? And maybe the new age gurus that promise us fourth density privileges in the third density ... are wrong? To wit, what's wrong with waiting until we have served our terms (e.g. to enjoy fourth density privileges; with this motif repeating to fifth and sixth and higher densities)?



You can now see why we are all living the way we are. With all the papers we are reading and different types of TV programs. This is all moulding the life we live.
Think. Imagine you are living in a very small village that offers only a very limited choice of luxuries. You struggle every day to make ends meet. You live in a ramshackle of hut. You only just get by each day. You live in the absolute bare minimum. With this in mind what are your thoughts each and every day. You are feeding your consciousness with the ongoing cycle and the life you have manifested just goes around in the same old cycles. With the knowledge of how our thoughts create our reality we could change the outcome. It doesn’t’t really matter how scarce the surroundings are, the trick is to continually feed your consciousness with a different picture so the outcome is not the same. We can all change the current paradigm but we need to know the rules and how to change it.


Changing paradigms is not like changing clothes. It is borne from our commitment to Satyam, Nyayam, Dharmam. And when properly done, it is relatively lasting. We can see this in the microcosmic unit of human organization: the family unit. The teachings of Truth, Fairness, Justice ... and commensurate reward and punishment based on adherence to these principles (for both parents and children in the unit, e.g. if Dad does wrong, he must accept punishment - not for arbitrary reasons - but because he has to set an example for his kids) ... make or break the family unit. In short, long-lasting functional family units have a better commitment to the teachings than do short-lasting dysfunctional family units. Expand this basic microcosm to bigger and bigger groupings, and we arrive at different working scales of human organization.

Your proposed paradigm, Vikes, seeks to abandon the quest for Truth, Fairness, Justice in the third density, and replace it with a mystical search for the fourth density. If that fulfills you, more power to you! But please don't take it upon yourself to castigate those of us who are committed to find the best possible living arrangement in the third density, but who have different ideas than yours.



Our thought processes have a lot to answer for and create more than we can imagine! We all have this gift and if only we all knew how to use this we would all be in abundance. However the way things have taken course has led us into this reality and we all need to awaken from this slumber. If we carry on with this current paradigm the planet will not be able to support us and nature will take its course. You cannot carry on indefinitely with all this negative energy sapping up emotional pockets of consciousness which in return create negative manifestation of matter. The law of karma will intervene as has also happened in the past and mother nature decides herself how to correct the energy flow.
[...]


Let it be written that I used/wasted/committed two hours thinking about (and responding to) the implicit judgments in your comments. But that's because I want Avalon to be an ongoing place of positive energy. Two hours is nothing when used for setting the record straight. You see, Vikes, I've already committed to the concept of thought creates matter ... not scientifically ... but spiritually. Which is why I'm hoping the best for you in your future endeavors. If you choose to leave Avalon ... may the force be with you. The force will stay behind with us left behind in Avalon, as well. Plenty of positive force all around for everyone.

:typing:

[Anchor]

zookumar: your post wasn't a waste of 2hrs, but, it really comes down to priorities. What do you give your priority to? For me its the spiritual journey, but I live here now, and so facts and figures, who does what, etc. conditions the choices one must make and how one organises ones day to day life - but the point being made is, is it worth chasing ones tail over proof that one may intuitively know anyway - when there are some cool new features to grasp of the new paradigm that is just around the corner.

[Fredkc]

Three... count 'em three people hammering me to read this thread.
People who never post whole sentences are typing 15 paragraph posts...

Is there any chance I can re-read this with some coffee in me?

First impression?
Oh great, Viking. You and Bill finally agree on something and you're leaving.

you can just feel a Monday coming on.
Fred

[Snowbird]

Three... count 'em three people hammering me to read this thread.
People who never post whole sentences are typing 15 paragraph posts...

Is there any chance I can re-read this with some coffee in me?

First impression?
Oh great, Viking. You and Bill finally agree on something and you're leaving.

you can just feel a Monday coming on.
Fred

LOL!!! Fred, you are a peach!

I just finished reading through this thread....with coffee....on Monday.

Viking, YOU WILL BE MISSED and I do hope that you come back when you are ready.

Who Hasn't upset someone on these threads? Butting heads is all a part of coming together.

Fred, you should really do stand-up!! :biggrin1:

[noxon medem]

What an invigorating thread.
Thanks to Viking for starting it.
You see they are doing their best to
provoking you into making a reply
here, one more post, please ...

I embedded this classic sketch on another
thread reasontly, but move it now here,
- where it fits better:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y&feature=player_embedded#!
- Monty Python, Arguement Clinic (sequence)

There is a python-inspired film called: Erik the Viking.
Did not find a stream for it, but is on hulu and netflix.
And some snippets on youtube :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ZbRI-N8sg

All well, all.
nm

PS. noticed that Rimbaud posted something today,
on the subject of Alex Collier. Curious ..
PPS. does not seem to me that Viking is completely leaving.
- think he made that clear in his opening post.

[NeoEmc2]

Let it be written that I used/wasted/committed two hours thinking about (and responding to) the implicit judgments in your comments. But that's because I want Avalon to be an ongoing place of positive energy. Two hours is nothing when used for setting the record straight. You see, Vikes, I've already committed to the concept of thought creates matter ... not scientifically ... but spiritually. Which is why I'm hoping the best for you in your future endeavors. If you choose to leave Avalon ... may the force be with you. The force will stay behind with us left behind in Avalon, as well. Plenty of positive force all around for everyone.

Funny how I get a negative feeling form your post but not from Viking's.

In my opinion you sure did waste two hours passing judgment on another who was merely expressing his frustrations and taking it personally as if he was talking to you directly.

Peace to you friend and may the force be with you.

[rosie]

Viking, your have spent quite a bit of your energy on this forum, myself being one of those benefiting from your thought provoking postings.
You have plenty to give, and it is much better to give in reality, then in virtual reality, as I personally can attest to.

Go and get them Viking! May your journey be filled with love, laughter and light!

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Looks to me like a great practice in loving each other despite our differences.

If you believe we are all connected or one - this is like the hand arguing with the foot each thinking their role is more important than the other and never getting far enough back to see they are connected to the same body. So do we cut off our hand or foot to get away from the other?

Not to say that both Zook and Viking's approaches are not pertinent. A wheel is strong because the spokes all come from a different place on the outer rim to the center. Each path or spoke is important. We need you all.

[Zook]

Hi NeoEmc2,


Funny how I get a negative feeling form your post but not from Viking's.
In my opinion you sure did waste two hours passing judgment on another who was merely expressing his frustrations and taking it personally as if he was talking to you directly.
Peace to you friend and may the force be with you.

I respect your feelings about this. But I'm also glad that you've taken the chance to read a perspective that does not resonate with your own feelings and beliefs.

Vikes and I have since exchanged emails and everything is positive between us. I told him that back in high school, my older sister and I once went thermonuclear over a trivial concern, one that resulted in seven years of us not speaking to each other (outside mutually-hurled essential barkings of 'Dad's calling you!' or 'Phone's for you!' or 'Mom says to hurry up!' ... and pointed blasts invoking descriptions of an illegitimate son or a female dog).

You see, my sister had won all the top academic trophies in Junior High and my parents bought her a state-of-the-art stereo system (turntable, 8-track, and radio ... hidden inside a laminated oak panel wooden box which could unleash some serious wattage (and did whenever Mom and Dad stepped out). I never studied, and except for mathematics - where I usually finished at or near the top of the class - barely kept my marks above C-level. Needless to say, no stereo jukebox for me ... :sad:

Well, there happened to be this cassette AM/FM/shortwave radio recorder in the house. I could get all the Nova Scotia Voyageurs AHL hockey games that were broadcast locally on my transistor radio. But the thing only operated on double AA batteries. So one Friday night (if I remember correctly) when the batteries bit the dust, I went to my sister's room to fetch the AM/FM cassette recorder. I told her I needed it to catch up on the exploits of Ron Andruff, Guy Chouinard, and Ken Houston (a line that was opening up new domains on the scoring sheet ... these were the days before Gretzky). My sister refused, saying that she needed it for news, CBC theatre, or some lame excuse. Things soon got heated. I might've even taken a swing at her and she might've slammed a heavy textbook on my cerebral housing once or twice. But in the end, Dad stepped in and told us we would have to share stewardship of the radio recorder, with my sister getting stewardship the first week, and me, being younger, the second week, and then her again, etc. My younger sister was deemed too young to handle the responsibilities of keeping an expensive electronics gadget.

Now, I had rationally argued that my older sister had her jukebox for radio listening and that she didn't need the recorder ... but she countered with a contrived need for shortwave (yeah right, I mean who listens to shortwave besides the Professor and Gilligan??). Needless to say, that did not sit well with me! I did not like my Dad's logic; I did not like my sister's stubbornness; and I certainly wasn't happy at having to wait for the morning paper to see what kind of new numbers were put up by the Andruff line!

To make a long story short (now an impossible task), my sister and I share laughs over the incident, specifically, over how a small matter could create such a large void in human relations. Now, if Vikes and I had been fencing over a jukebox, things might have gotten ugly ... but we were just sharing strong opinions. He's a good person; I'd like to think I'm a good person; but even good persons have moments in the third density. Moments to memories!

:fencing:

:typing:

ps: May the force be with all of us!

[truthseekerdan]

We're never away (separated) from the Source. It's just a 3D illusion. As soon as we all realize this, we'll start to behave as spiritual light beings (the real us/soul), and not just as divided humans.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkH6apsRQWs

[Deega]

Hi Viking,

You already had a great records here, great!, and thanks!

I enjoyed reading your posts, and am thankful for all the emotions you brang me, many thank! Here is a few comments on how I see the challenges to come following your post.


“Palava” Vikings, you’ve been at it for a thousand+ posts, you finally realized that you were having “pointless” discussion…, hmm!, how unfortunate ….!


“Going around in circles feeding your thought patterns”. I think that you are right…, aren’t we like Ouroborus…? Admitting this, what would you suggest we do differently for not to “circles feeding”….? IMHO, cycle feeding provides the elements to make very small steps forward (increment) in time.


“Most of us here more or less know how we got here in this mess and we have the knowledge to awaken the consciousness of many”. IMHO, I think that the Avalon Forum, Camelot Forum and all the many Forums that sprang up in the last 5 years, awaked the consciousness of many like never before, the technology bring consciousness awareness to people, more people seek, find, want more, strive, hold and seed, we’re moving forward slowly but surely….!, never fast enough, never fully, never like we would idealized but consciousness awareness is on the move, where will it goes…?, your thoughts are as good as mine…!


“This is the time for awakening the groups that we are all in. now is the time that you need to put all your energies into awakening the friends and close families.” Please tell Vikings, what do you want to tell friends and close families, that we should live by virtue, by giving, by being forgiving, by being Christ like, giving all that we have to teach the good news…!, by making a step forward in the consciousness awareness where we live like LOVE fully, continuously…!, and if this, how may we integrate this paradigm (different order if you like!) in our professional life, then our family life, and then our community life…!, one great challenge…!


“We are all controlled much more than we think and if only we knew the rules of our consciousness and how we have come by the life we lead, we would be more in control of the world and it would be a happier place to live”. Control of the world, you know to do this wisdomfully, one need to have a mind set of “otherself”, to mention a few, giving to others, the wisdom to teach, to give, to accept and help those who are inferior, to be loved, otherwise, it is extremely difficult to be holy in decision making with people…,another great challenge…!


“Everything bad on this planet has been created by our thought processes. In other words we can say that our collective consciousness has created the reality we live in”. I’m not sure if this is absolute truth, I would add, we were teached, informed, cultured in such a way that we were held by the belief that human beings were sinful and needed to repent..!(catholic dogma for one!). And in toping this, we were held to believe that the Earth was not alive, we could used it indiscriminately, that the vegetation world, the mineral world, the animal world, the Cosmic world were not living beings, it should be used as we wished, were we not seeded thoughts of abuse on the living beings surrounding us…? And if we would have these worlds in respect, we would surely act accordingly to this respect…!, wouldn’t we….?, I’m surely in the dreamland here!


“As a species we all need to grow up and realize that we have made this mess and we alone can only put it right. So we have to raise our thinking patterns to a higher frequency and not be dictated with all that is around us”. We are in an organized system, designed by the wealthy intellects of yesteryears, that system has been changed (financial elite accomplice) over the years for the well beings (so it is said!) of people, how do we go about changing, modifying, restructuring this well to be system…?, dramatically, the elite has the power to prevent it! On the other side, incrementally, yes!, I would think so, but it won’t be fast enough for us….!


“ Perhaps some of the wars have been orchestrated or manipulated for greed and for support of the war machine. But again we have only ourselves to blame for letting our minds accept this way of thinking and buying into this negative projection of energy”. For a wealthy nation, who want to keep the economy going, keep the industries going further, providing work and forwarding the system approach as mentioned above, it ain’t “our accepting and buying this way of doing”, it was imposed on us, you are aware of the Iron Mountain Report…! And what have we to deal against it….!, unorganized, not working collectively, we don’t have a chance to make a difference…!, don’t we…?


“THOUGHT CREATES MATTER”. IMHO, Yes!, I think that thought creates matter. But, we should not forget that the Financial Elites have THOUGHTS of their own. And up to now they reign over the millions, that is quite a challenge, how do we overcome…?, how do we go about it…? The system is so well synchronized that the millions are prisoners, so to speak (debts, laws, regulations, authorizations of all sorts, etc) of the system. If we want to undergo change, and be a successful manifest, we better prepared early, bring together the collective mind…!, convinced them of the plan for changes…! And plan the moves to come…!, dreamland, surely, but can’t stay idle either…!


“The law of karma will intervene as has also happened in the past and mother nature decides herself how to correct the energy flow”. And if the Law of Karma was an Asian creation (written text) to fit in their religious (Hindu, Buddist) dogma…?, what then….? And yes!, the Earth have cycles, the Cosmos have cycles, living beings have cycles, and we are bless to be in a great cycle….!, and still in these cycles, we are continuously in search of our divine being…!, and a better world…!, and we are insatiable for a manifest creativity...!


“We need to change our thought patterns towards a positive outcome. And we will”. I wish it that way also…!

Viking, thanks for the great post, I’m sending you my blessings for your next venture.

Deega

[Victoria Tintagel]

Viking:
What an eye opener … It really has been an enlightening experience if only you could all do the same just for a week or so. I have pulled away from the confusion that surrounds us each day, and it has given me the opportunity to see what is happening from a different perspective. We come here seeking answers and end up going around in circles. Most of us here more or less know how we got here in this mess and we have the knowledge to awaken the consciousness of many. The PTB have us under control in more ways than you could imagine…To those of you that have read ‘The Paradigm series’ by George Green and other books with ‘the message‘, then you should know what you should be doing. This is the time for awakening the groups that we are all in. now is the time that you need to put all your energies into awakening the friends and close families.

Zookumar:
Thank you for that patronizing dissertation on how we should all conduct our journeys into the awakening.. But let me assure you, Vikes, quite a few of us actually know why we came to Avalon and how to fulfill its charter. Me? I came to observe Satyam, Nyayam, and Dharmam ... Truth, Fairness, and Justice. I believe all three to be a fundamental part of the Avalon charter. I certainly did not come here to be emotionally blackmailed by friendships that turn on a dime. If you wanted this thread to be your last post, I would've hoped you would have left with better energy. Castigation is not conducive to positive energy.

Hey Zookumar, reading this part of the thread brings understanding for me, towards Viking's decision to leave, hopefully for a while. My impression is that you take things personally and therefore find Vikings dissertation patronising. I myself have a tendency to write like Viking does. I guess it's part of being someone who wants to make this world a better place :)

I honestly cannot talk about the nature of your clash...or whatever you wanne call it, I simply wasn't present when it happened. I enjoy Viking's presence hugely here in the Forum and I felt a bit shaken when I noticed Vikings last post. Now I understand more of the background, at least some, I think.

Zookumar:
To make a long story short (now an impossible task), my sister and I share laughs over the incident, specifically, over how a small matter could create such a large void in human relations. Now, if Vikes and I had been fencing over a jukebox, things might have gotten ugly ... but we were just sharing strong opinions. He's a good person; I'd like to think I'm a good person; but even good persons have moments in the third density. Moments to memories!

Maybe you two, Zookumar and Viking, should have had a drink or two, in 3D, fencing over a jukebox, it could have served mutual understanding, even after a fight :) Communicating online and sharing strong opinions isn't a healthy combination, I believe, the tension often increases and doesn't find a way out....it's safe to be shielded by a screen. There isn't a moment shared in the same NOW and exactly THAT is what helps to find humour in the situation, looking into each other's eyes, seeing the relativity of arguments. Don't you think, Zookumar? This is my nsho, Ferrywoman Tintagel.

[Zook]

Hi Tintagelcave,



Viking:
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Zookumar:
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Hey Zookumar, reading this part of the thread brings understanding for me, towards Viking's decision to leave, hopefully for a while. My impression is that you take things personally and therefore find Vikings dissertation patronising. I myself have a tendency to write like Viking does. I guess it's part of being someone who wants to make this world a better place :)


I'm not sure whether the better part of valor is to leave things alone (seeing that Vikes and I have resolved our (mis)understandings) ... or to explain the genesis of my controversial post here, publicly, as opposed to PM-ing (so that others similarly affected as you have been, will understand why I posted as I did). My inner wisdom tells me that the negative energy generated by the thread (specifically, my response to Vikes post) ... will continue to remain as an undercurrent as long as people continue to make their own assumptions about things.

So here goes my final comment on the matter (I'm confident Vikes will understand that my objection to his post is confined to his comments, not with himself personally). Of course, who can really say if any communication is entirely free of personal investment? I'm sure there was a part of it that reached back into our previous exchanges and our different personalities.

Anyhow, prior to my posting, I came across this comment from an Avalonian (not Vikes):

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the "false flag" paranoia is being propagated by some proj Avalonians..who needs TV when they can get conspiracy theorists to get people paranoid and worried
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFCsW...layer_embedded

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Needless to say, some serious derogation was being advanced by this Avalonian member. I thought little of it and went on to read Vikes post. (Here, thinking little of it does not mean I was not rankled by it). After trudging through Vikes post, I went to meet the day and whatever it was that the day demanded of me. When I came back later in the night, I had a few things I wanted to unload off my mind. I disagreed with both posters, to be sure. But I proceeded to Vikes post because it was more meaty than the other Avalonian's. That's the backdrop for my mood when I replied as I did.

The fact that I would've responded with equal disdain to both posts, Tint, should be a point in my favor (e.g. wrt my not taking it to a personal level with Vikes). Do you not agree?



I honestly cannot talk about the nature of your clash...or whatever you wanne call it, I simply wasn't present when it happened. I enjoy Viking's presence hugely here in the Forum and I felt a bit shaken when I noticed Vikings last post. Now I understand more of the background, at least some, I think.


Actually, I was going to respond in two posts; after all, Vikes forgot to turn off the switch on the prolific paragraph generator. But I was way too tired after a heavy day of trafficking the ATPs (adenosine triphosphates). When morning came, the desire was no longer there to follow up on the remaining points of Vikes post. There was one point that I will quickly address here now (after all, I'm a points and potatoes guy, not a messenger assassin).

Vikes suggested (in the latter part of his post) that we substitute images of positive things in place of negative images that cross our mind. I was stunned by that perspective and/or proposal. It reeks of escapism. I mean, when children are getting slaughtered on the far side of the world by decisions made on the near side, and the images find your mind, how can anyone in their right spiritual mind substitute, say, a bouquet of roses on a grand piano? It boggles rational and spiritual sense.

And it justifies my earlier statement of ostriches (seeking to bury their heads in the sand) being substituted by new age gurus (seeking to bury their heads in the inner spirit). To me - and I drink myself - the town lush has already mastered the art of substituting reality. Why spend a thousand bucks on new age gurus, when the whino dancing with the lamp post ... can give you free advice for a bottle?

Of course, I don't judge Vikes for the concept. Perhaps he hasn't thought it through? Or perhaps the concept has some positive application in those that suffer from mental depression or are otherwise psychologically burdened? But those are exceptions to the rule, IMHO. The rule of humans with normal consciences is to confront the reality and try and change it where it exists in realspace; not try and change it by changing images in mindspace.




Maybe you two, Zookumar and Viking, should have had a drink or two, in 3D, fencing over a jukebox, it could have served mutual understanding, even after a fight :)


Beers require no introduction to be dispersed. A Stella for me, Tint ... put it on Vikes tab. LOL!!!
:jester:



Communicating online and sharing strong opinions isn't a healthy combination, I believe, the tension often increases and doesn't find a way out....it's safe to be shielded by a screen. There isn't a moment shared in the same NOW and exactly THAT is what helps to find humour in the situation, looking into each other's eyes, seeing the relativity of arguments. Don't you think, Zookumar? This is my nsho, Ferrywoman Tintagel.

Perhaps you're right, Tint. But on the other hand, if we lose the passionate argument, we become dispassionate robots. Wot? IMHO, I think it is vital that we observe Truth, Fairness, and Justice ... in realspace and in electronspace. Once we start receding into manners for the sake of harmony and to the disservice of truth ... then what exactly are we achieving? IMHO, I believe the charter of Avalon mandates harmony in the service of truth; and tolerates a small level of disharmony when the truth is being disserviced. I could be wrong.

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[Ahkenaten]

Alas language only takes us so far even with the best intentions and best word-smithry............and written language is problematic because without directly speaking to a person, live - one misses the nuances that provide full illumination of the speaker's thoughts and intentions: facial expression, cadence of language, tone of voice, and eye contact. Another lesson about how virtual community, while helpful, is never a substitute for real living flesh and blood human beings. What interests me about Mr. Zook's approach is his rigorous attention to method. I need to revisit rigorous logic and scientific method that I may have too impatiently dismissed. What interests me about Viking is his passionate beliefs................both elements have much to be admired. There is much to learn from the different perspectives we find here AND IN THE REAL WORLD, for which there is no substitute and the virtual is only a slice.

[Victoria Tintagel]

Hey Zookumar, thank you for this clear and revealing reply :)
The You Tube link goes "The URL contained a malformed video ID" unfortunately,
although I feel, if it worked, I still cannot grasp the nature of your conversations with Viking anyway,
I haven't been following it, as you noticed.


The rule of humans with normal consciences is to confront the reality and try and change it where it exists in realspace;
not try and change it by changing images in mindspace.

I believe strongly that we ourselves shape our reality. And that the world, out there, is reflecting the present state of humanity's
collective consciousness, thus..... mine too. All form is birthed by an idea, I believe.
When you, zookumar, decide to fly a kite, you can choose to buy the fabric yourself and build one,
with tails and trails....and what have you....
The plan to build one is an idea, the decision to buy one is an idea, the decision to fly one is an idea.
Before "existing in realspace" things have to be thought through and arranged so that the form can be produced.

We don't live (yet) in a dimension where we click our fingers, think a thought and manifest form and matter :)
I wish we could....ha ha...but then this discussion would have never started, hmmmm?:)

We are different in our opinion how reality is shaped, zookumar.
The bold statement in your quote requires a preparation of attention and intention to begin with, doesn't it?
I don't suppose you intend to be running around in circles and everybody trying to invent his or her own wheel of fortune :)
on his or her own way, hmmmm? That's already happening very much...ha ha.. in reality,
see the results.....fragmentation....... is this the right word?

Part of your quote: change it by changing images in mindspace
Exactly this is NOT my point of view, when I say I create my own reality, zookumar.
For me it's not about changing images in mindspace......at all.
For me it's the focus on and the intention of our visualisations, that determine the outcome in form and matter.
We have a sixth chakra, or third eye, that is the bridge between heaven and earth.
We dream our world into existence, through this portal. It's literally an eye that looks upward.

I mention this often: it's again a matter of perspective and perception......:) how our reality is shaped,
don't you think, zookumar? Where do we come from?
Are we human beings having a spiritual experience? And if so, to what purpose?
Are we spiritual beings having a human experience, so that we eventually come full circle,
during a spiritual awakening and leave the human experience behind?
The choice between those 2 questions determines our destination, thus reality.......
isn't it obvious, then, that all manifestation (or reality) starts with an idea?
Snowflake Tint.

[New Dawn]

I'm quite new here, but I enjoyed finding the little links that Viking left scattered about, like easter eggs! :)

I seem to remember him being over the top with Bill about something that Bill said, and Bill perhaps being over the top by suggesting that he go elsewhere. Hey, I'm a hippy at heart - lets all get along. I am sure that all of us on this forum share the same dream.