What human rights are you ( currently ) missing ?

[Agape]

Which ( or what ) human rights do you think should be added to the great "Charter of Human Rights & Freedoms'' (http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/) that have been omitted , forgotten , misnamed , but I would really prefer to hear of those not mentioned at all ..

This would be ( I think ) interesting question to rise at any large ( and possibly 'honest' = truth seeking ) international assembly with people from more than one corner of the earth and different layers of human society ,
I think that ideas would be many .. and would differ .


My idea for start ..would be the "Freedom to own Identity'' as one such essential right ..

it would cover whole topic area , such as todays 'transgender' problematics , whether and in what age do you consider yourself senior ,

a basic human right to own identity also enables choosing your preferred nationality , regardless on country of your birth ( or your parents ),

and choosing 'no nationality' if you insist on considering yourself 'free citizen' of the planet .

Fortifying and expressing such a 'human right' , in my opinion , would underline one essential need of every human being , for their self-definition , identification independent of authority brainwashing them to certain system or dogmatic belief .

I understand that application of such right could result in chaos ... in first wave , if taken ad absurdum, many people would ( *for example ) declare themselves citizens of other countries immediately and start demanding government supports ..

so also , government supports or living space could not be automatically allocated to anyone claiming to be their citizen .

However , in time .. people would move exactly where they want to be ..


Disclaimer :

I know this sounds either crazy or catastrophic . Yet ... I see tiny little dot of Light in the point I'm trying to make .

Sometimes , we see 'ourselves' only in the mirror . Maybe someone having 'new years ideas ?'



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[A Voice from the Mountains]

Freedom from property tax.

If you buy property you should already own it and never have to pay someone else to keep it. If you don't pay property taxes and your government seizes your property, then how can you say you ever owned your own land?

[Agape]

That's right . Property should not be taxable unless it exceeds ''add number'' of other peoples average properties ..

You can't own country or can you :(

[Matisse]

I think that it should be a basic right for everyone to have a place to live, education, and health services...
plus freedom of speach, of privacy (from government and corporations) and religion or non-religion ...

[robinr1]

cant everyone already obtain those things? at least referring to the first 3? also who will be paying for those things when a large majority of the people don't feel they need to work themselves for said items? gov?






I think that it should be a basic right for everyone to have a place to live, education, and health services...
plus freedom of speach, of privacy (from government and corporations) and religion or non-religion ...

[wnlight]

Some variety of sales tax (with exceptions for basic needs) could easily pay for a real, universal health care and for full education. This would be particularly true if we would only stop creating wars and invading other nations.

I find it amusing that so many people would wish to move to the USA when I have recently moved away. A major reason for my move is the erosion of human rights due to the artificial climate of fear in the USA.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

cant everyone already obtain those things? at least referring to the first 3? also who will be paying for those things when a large majority of the people don't feel they need to work themselves for said items? gov?

I don't think our government can provide these things, even when they're not for free (as with Obamacare), as it's currently run where our government's expenditures always seem to surpass their income.

However other governments have made this work with tax money. Probably over half of our tax dollars in the US currently go to our military, and we see how well that's doing for us, as it basically roams around the world blowing up or threatening other countries. The same money could be spent at home to provide services for better education and healthcare for Americans.


Did you know that in Germany, tuition is free to all colleges and universities, even for foreigners? From what I understand, the German government foots the bill, but I'm not sure of the specifics, only that tuition is free in Germany. And German schools are very good. In Belgium tuition is not free but it's commonly equivalent to something like $500 US. In the US tuition even at a relatively inexpensive college is about $10,000 per year, and this is for a 4 year degree consisting of 120 credit hours or so usually. In Germany they can get the equivalent degree in 3 years, with 180 credit hours, for free.

The amount of money that the US government wastes or allows to be drained from its citizens by obscenely wealthy corporations is criminal.

[Agape]

When it comes to 'ownership' , properties ... there starts a whole chain of difficulties . But what can anyone 'own' if people are basically considered a property of their countries , families or tribes ?

The right to self-definition is essential to all these , in my opinion .

Who 'owns' a child when he/she is born ? Parents care for the child, love the child , some even not , yet .. the child has de facto very few legal options to decide about him/herself till they're at least 18 years old .
Now , there are vast differences in how fast each individual matures biologically and emotionally ,

in their abilities and concepts of self and the universe but , who cares ?

Alright, you may say the society gives people enough tools to set themselves free when they are mature enough to do that . But , in practise .. there's a damage created to individuals that is very difficult to reprove later ,
and the damage descends from times when common man lived in slavery .

It makes very little difference to the evolution of consciousness and conscience whether you're millionaire in suit or a social care worker because you're still being taken slave to the system .

We're all social beings yes . But being social among sovereign individuals with equal rights and freedoms feels totally different from being social in society of slaves , is that correct ?


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Personally, I find the concept of ownership of things that you can't make use of in one lifetime , neither a generation of children can , rather confusing .
It's outlived remnant of past .. when people had to horde things in order to save them because there was scarcity of everything .

The problem is when what you accumulate does not become distributed in time before it gets spoiled .

We see it a lot on the market - or rather 'we don't get to see it' , what happens to all the food ( and many other things ) beyond their expiration date ? They have to be scrambled , scrapped . Sometimes there are ways around it but mostly not .

The world is literally filled with wreckage nowadays , all from cars , machines, several generations of computers and all the electronics , ruins of old buildings , carefully replaced by layers of 'bio-soil' .

The production line never stops, it escalates exponentially .. so that there'll be few billion of new smart phones on the market next year .

If the phone i have is very good , worth the money , it can and should last me good couple of years before it expires . I don't need to buy new model next year with two three improved functions .
I'd gladly wait 10 years , then buy the truly next generation phone , for example .

What can anyone own , hold to .. truly .. more than they can carry on their back ?


If you can carry a child or a person in your arms , you may 'own him' . Once you can't do that .. the rest is a subject of 'mind control' problematics .

[yelik]

No one person or organisation has the right to own the earth or its resources.

There should be a basic right to own sufficient land so each and everyone can become self sufficient in food and water. However, this goes against the NWO plans and agenda 21 where most of the land and key resources are owned and controlled by the elites. Unfortunately our world is upside down and inside out.

[Agape]

I think so too , it makes no sense 'owning' vast natural resources , firstly the expansion of your business is limited from the 'upper side' because you're bound to meet your neighbours and opponents ,
secondly you ruin the planet by your dirty game . That's not about resources, that's about people .

It's a very silly game , for people who spend their time counting papers thinking they won or lost something , somewhere in the Universe while in reality nothing important happened today .

It's a fiction. You live in surreal society on Earth ..



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[Ernie Nemeth]

If you are taxed you are a slave.

[robinr1]

If you are taxed you are a slave.


agreed....100 percent...I am an advocate of no state whatsoever....all transactions must be voluntary. so the idea of the state funding projects doesn't quite sit well with me.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

After some of the comments here earlier I feel like I should clarify what I meant by being free from property tax, and being free to own my own land, free of government interference.

Where I live and grew up some people or families do own fairly large pieces of land, but over time these are naturally divided up as the owners grow old and pass it to their children (the children who don't move into cities or other areas, at least). People also have no problem renting out houses where family members used to live, and neighbors are generally friendly and cooperative to help each other.

Right now I live across from the house where my great great grandpa lived, and next door to the house where my great grandpa lived, and where my grandpa and many aunts and uncles were raised. The whole stretch of land along this street and wrapping back around a large hill was owned by my family and was divided up so that now not only my uncles and grandma continue to live here but also other families that have lived in the area for a while. There is a lot of family history here and it's also nice to have family as neighbors (or at least it's not so bad in my case).

I'm disturbed by the idea that if someone failed to pay their taxes, then the government would come seize control of what they have had nothing to do with for over 100 years, claim it as their own and resell it to someone else. This seems to me to go against basic human rights of simply having a place to live and grow food and raise a family and call your own. If someone owned a million acres of personal property and only lived in a tiny corner of it and kept anyone from using the rest of it, that's something society would have to resolve. But if we act in our own and each others' best interests at the same time, in coming up with laws that are fair to everyone, then I believe everyone should be entitled to their own piece of land. Even many animals live in one area all their lives and will defend their territory. It's a natural right to be able to settle down in one place, feed yourself and raise a family.

[wnlight]

Well, I believe that property taxes are unfair and probably archaic, and should be banned. I also feel that income taxes are invasive, unfair, and difficult to fill out the forms correctly. But how IS the state going to raise money to build the roads and other infrastructure? Perhaps the best answer is a tax on sales. Furthermore, since congress is not doing what the people want, we should be able to vote down some of the expensive Government actions like wars, and stupid versions of health care.

I really like the idea of a general public veto. If congress fails to write it right - veto it!

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Well, I believe that property taxes are unfair and probably archaic, and should be banned. I also feel that income taxes are invasive, unfair, and difficult to fill out the forms correctly. But how IS the state going to raise money to build the roads and other infrastructure? Perhaps the best answer is a tax on sales.

Not just on sales but corporate profits. Just as there is nothing useful about someone owning a million acres of the Earth and hording it from everyone, there is also nothing useful about CEOs making billions of dollars every year simply for owning a company. General Electric made more profit in the US than any other corporation in 2012 or 2013, and did not pay 1 cent in taxes at the end of year.

Instead of taxing the hell out of real people who hardly have it, they could make a lot more money taxing the hell out of corporations that aren't people and are just sucking wealth off of everyone else like leeches.

[wnlight]

bsbray, The problem is that if GE were to be forced to pay taxes, it would simply pass the taxes on to the consumer in price hikes.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

bsbray, The problem is that if GE were to be forced to pay taxes, it would simply pass the taxes on to the consumer in price hikes.

That's why monopolies are bad for business to begin with. If our capitalist system were strong and healthy, they would have to either find an efficient way of delivering a cheap product, or else they would simply be run out of business by other companies who are able to provide a good, relatively cheap product.

It's only when industries are awarded no-bid contracts by the US government or run all their competitors out of business and set up a monopoly that you can't control what kind of ridiculous prices they'll throw at you.


To earn a few billion or trillion dollars in pure profit, not as individuals working for the company, but the company itself as a corporate entity, it can obviously withstand paying taxes like everyone else. The poor and middle class have to do it. They can figure out a way, too.

GE is not hurting for money. Let me repeat that they raked in more profit than any other corporation in the US for the particular year in question. So they are making plenty of money already. They are not hurting in a way that, if they had to pay taxes as most other corporations already do, they are suddenly going to have to kill us with high costs, just because they are no longer making a trillion dollars clean profit a year and they want to keep making that much. It is completely parasitic to suck this much out of the economy just for a corporate entity to hold in the first place. All it is going to do with it, if anything, is invest in strengthening its monopoly and sucking even more money out of us. More like we are attempting to trim the fat here, as you might say, and stop monopolization of an industry.

[Hanson]

I would feel much better about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights if the United Nations did not reserve any special privileges for itself, like it does in Articles 14 (2), 26 (2), and 29 (3), all of which could be seen to be in violation of Article 30.

[Pam]

No one person or organisation has the right to own the earth or its resources.

There should be a basic right to own sufficient land so each and everyone can become self sufficient in food and water. However, this goes against the NWO plans and agenda 21 where most of the land and key resources are owned and controlled by the elites. Unfortunately our world is upside down and inside out.

I like your ideas here, yelik. I agree with you regarding the concept of owning the earth and its resources. One might be allowed to utilize areas with the goal of self sufficiency. With that would come the responsibility of restoring the land and using it responsibly which may mean moving from specific plots to allow the land time for rest and rejuvination ect. Also, the privilege of having a plot of land would require sharing of abundance as all are not able to care for themselves.

I am not sure humans are evolved enough to "own" anything really. In fact if we were we would no longer feel the need to own.