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Mutchie
29th December 2014, 02:06
buzzaldrin.com/space-vision/rocket_science/starbooster/http://buzzaldrin.com/space-vision/rocket_science/starbooster/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPRpLYNgef0Okay guys i am friends with 2 people who run a space based website ... 1 of them is famous and im not saying anything other than that. The other one who runs the site started sharing some incredible information with me the other day i havent even scratched the surface but Aldrin owns or is heavily invested in a company which gives us Aquila it has the ability to put 50 ton into orbit ... I have a lot of info i need to sort out but we are up there ands SO are the russians ... :cool: i promise i will get this sorted into a readable order should make for a good thread considering my friend has an insider in the secret space programs ...MERRY XMAS




Okay i had been sent a new moon video which has been released on you tube. It had the above RADAR with supporting superstructure underneath it is very interesting because it is pointed straight at PLANET EARTH ....

As if that did not have me interested enough they then show us a mile wide silo "possibly" it reaches maybe 2 miles from the surface it ALSO points at our Planet !!

I contacted my friend " i will call him Jay " He has a spaced based website with current insiders in contact with him . The guy praised him for being 90 % accurate but he was 7 years behind the real secret space program.

When i asked Jay outright about who was up there he told me WE BOTH ARE ......
There is supposed to be 2 Russian owned operational bases on the farside also they have a 3rd in orbit this is a long term operation which has been ongoing over the last 60 years ... Aldrin the 2nd man to walk on the moon he is RIGHT in the thick of the action ... You ever notice the way he is not interested if asked anything about the structures on our moon - No wander he knows exactly what is going on he is the director of the company which supplied AQUILA .

More is coming im getting some help PLEASE BEAR WITH ME:thumb:

http://projectavalon.net/space_transportation_for_a_lunar_resources_base.pd f

http://projectavalon.net/spacetransportationforlunarbase.pdf

Kindred
29th December 2014, 03:05
The US has been in cooperation with the Russian's for MANY YEARS... what is happening in the main (lame) stream media is all propaganda and pablum for the masses, and provides a way to 'legitimately' procure vast sums for the MIC and secret space program.

I'm sure that many have already seen this video in it's original form. However, all the current copies tend to have a lot of audio missing, particularly where names are named. This is the only one I've been able to find that still has most of the info intact.
Note: 1985 MUFON conference.
(BTW... this was uploaded on a religiously oriented individual's channel, thus the opening statement... just the same, the video shares valuable information that supports the OP's statements.)
pOxabjfqIEE

In Unity, Peace and Love

gardener2
29th December 2014, 15:45
Hello Kindred thank you for posting this very interesting video, I would so like to find out more. regards Gardener 2

Mutchie
30th December 2014, 02:10
KINDRED thank you SO MUCH i love watching Bill Cooper he was a stand up guy "vigilante" maybe because HE KNEW A HIT WAS COMING he acted the way he did I SAY HE WAS KILLED " A political hit "

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Gardener 2 it is GREAT to meet YOU i have a lot more info to come out im getting help but trust me WE ARE OUT THERE !!!

Et are for REAL and big changes may be possible....... MUCH RESPECT xx;)

Harley
30th December 2014, 04:08
Good one, Kevin! Can't wait to hear more!

In the mean-time, here are some facts that you may also find interesting:


since 1955 man has been on the moon

Aldrin owns or is heavily invested in a company which gives us Aquila it has the ability to put 50 ton into orbit

Project Orion (nuclear propulsion) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_%28nuclear_propulsion%29) (What we're allowed to know from Wikipedia):

* 1881 - The idea of rocket propulsion by combustion of explosive substance was first proposed by Russian explosives expert Nikolai Kibalchich

* 1891 - similar ideas were developed independently by German engineer Hermann Ganswindt.

* 1946 - General proposals of nuclear propulsion were first made by Stanislaw Ulam

* 1947 - preliminary calculations were made by F. Reines and Ulam in a Los Alamos memorandum

* 1958 - The actual project [Orion] was initiated and led by Ted Taylor at General Atomics and physicist Freeman Dyson

* Payload to Moon soft landing (Compared to Saturn V): (Interplanetary) 1,200 t , (Advanced interplanetary) 5,700 t , (Saturn V) 2 t (From George Dyson's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dyson_(science_historian)) book, pg. 55 published in 2002.

* Early versions of this vehicle were proposed to take off from the ground with significant associated nuclear fallout. Supporters of Project Orion felt that it had potential for cheap interplanetary travel, but it lost political approval over concerns with fallout from its propulsion

[However]

* later versions were presented for use only in space.

Note (also from the same Wikipedia above) that the Orion Drive has been depicted many times in fiction, with one of the more recent (and maybe one of the more accurate) depictions being the The 1998 film Deep Impact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(film)), which featured a spacecraft named Messiah that utilized the "Orion Drive". In this story, the astronauts were transported up to the orbiting Mesiah where they then boarded Mesiah and zoomed-off to accomplish their distant mission.


Aquila: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquila)

From Wikipedia:

* Aquila is the Latin and Romance languages word for eagle.

Maritime vessels:

* USS Aquila (AK-47), an Aquila-class cargo ship commissioned by the U.S. Navy for service in World War II

* USS Aquila (PHM-4), a hydrofoil formerly operated by the U.S. Navy

* Italian aircraft carrier Aquila, a World War II Italian aircraft carrier

(Note: Do you think the above list is complete? Is it possible that there may be another vessel, one that is unknown to the general public, which may have been christened with this name? Aquila)


Eagle:

Remember this famous transmission?

"Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed."

Eagle was the name of the Apollo 11 Lunar Lander, which was the first (publicly known) manned landing on the moon.


Aldrin

Riding aboard Apollo 11's Lunar Lander named Eagle (or "Aquila" from above) were the first two (publicly known) astronauts to set foot on the moon - Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.


And now, to tie all of the above together and bring it up to the present, you will want to read the following articles:

2014 - The Past, Present, and Future Potential of NASA’s Nuclear Space Rocket Program (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/195893-the-past-present-and-future-potential-of-nasas-nuclear-space-rocket-program?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ziffdavis%2Fextremetech+%28Extremetech%29)

[Excerpt]:

- Shortly after Apollo 11, Wernher von Braun, one of the fathers of rocket science, proposed that we develop a reusable Nuclear Thermal Propulsion (NTP) rocket to colonize the Moon.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/nasa-a3-tower-stennis-space-center-640x521.jpg
The A3 test stand at Stannis Space Center, which NASA was forced by Congress to complete, at great expense, even though it was no longer required.


Which was taken from this interesting NASA document, dated 2014:
NASA/TM—2014-218105
AIAA–2013–5465

The Nuclear Thermal Propulsion Stage (NTPS): A Key Space Asset for Human Exploration and Commercial Missions to the Moon (http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20140013260.pdf)

Abstract:

The nuclear thermal rocket (NTR) has frequently been discussed as a key space asset that can bridge the gap between a sustained human presence on the Moon and the eventual human exploration of Mars. Recently, a human mission to a near Earth asteroid (NEA) has also been included as a “deep space precursor” to an orbital mission of Mars before a landing is attempted. In his “post-Apollo” Integrated Space Program Plan (1970 to 1990), Wernher von Braun, proposed a reusable Nuclear Thermal Propulsion Stage (NTPS) to deliver cargo and crew to the Moon to establish a lunar base initially before sending human missions to Mars. The NTR was selected because it was a proven technology capable of generating both high thrust and high specific impulse (Isp ~900 s)—twice that of today’s best chemical rockets. During the Rover and NERVA programs, 20 rocket reactors were designed, built and successfully ground tested. These tests demonstrated the (1) thrust levels; (2) high fuel temperatures; (3) sustained operation; (4) accumulated lifetime; and (5) restart capability needed for an affordable inspace transportation system. In NASA’s Mars Design Reference Architecture (DRA) 5.0 study, the “Copernicus” crewed NTR Mars transfer vehicle used three 25 klbf “Pewee” engines—the smallest and highest performing engine tested in the Rover program. Smaller lunar transfer vehicles—consisting of a NTPS with three ~16.7 klbf “SNRE-class” engines, an in-line propellant tank, plus the payload—can be delivered to LEO using a 70 t to LEO upgraded SLS, and can support reusable cargo delivery and crewed lunar landing missions. The NTPS can play an important role in returning humans to the Moon to stay by providing an affordable in-space transportation system that can allow initial lunar outposts to evolve into settlements capable of supporting commercial activities. Over the next decade collaborative efforts between NASA and private industry could open up new exploration and commercial opportunities for both organizations. With efficient NTP, commercial habitation and crew delivery systems, a “mobile cislunar research station” can transport crews to small NEAs delivered to the E-ML2 point. Also possible are week-long “lunar tourism” missions that can carry passengers into lunar orbit for sightseeing (and plenty of picture taking), then return them to Earth orbit where they would re-enter and land using a small reusable lifting body based on NASA’s HL-20 design. Mission descriptions, key vehicle features and operational characteristics are described and presented.


I'm anxious to find out if any of the information I've provided above may correlate to the information which you are being provided!


P.S. (A special note):

In the Project Orion (nuclear propulsion) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_%28nuclear_propulsion%29) article from Wikipedia, I was surprised to discover an important paragraph which I had not noticed before and I would like to reference it to my post HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77306-PROJECT-AVALON-NEWSLETTER-2-Intrigues-Conspiracies-ETs-Breakaway-Civilizations-Healing-and-the-first-small-part-of-THE-PROJECT-CAMELOT-STORY&p=907425&viewfull=1#post907425) in the PROJECT AVALON NEWSLETTER #2 thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77306-PROJECT-AVALON-NEWSLETTER-2-Intrigues-Conspiracies-ETs-Breakaway-Civilizations-Healing-and-the-first-small-part-of-THE-PROJECT-CAMELOT-STORY)

The paragraph reads:

The biggest design above is the "super" Orion design; at 8 million tonnes, it could easily be a city. In interviews, the designers contemplated the large ship as a possible interstellar ark. This extreme design could be built with materials and techniques that could be obtained in 1958 or were anticipated to be available shortly after. The practical upper limit is likely to be higher with modern materials.

Bill Ryan
31st December 2014, 12:57
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Hi, All — this is a very interesting subject. Cheers to Mutchie for bringing it all to our attention.

He was having a little trouble with some of his attachments, and so he's sent us some material and asked us to post it for him. We're on that, so this is just a placeholder. Of course, we're always happy to help any member in this way if we can.

I'll have a go at that myself, and if I've got any of it confused, my apologies in advance! But that's how come posts can always be edited. :)

* Bill will be back here in an hour or two... *

Bill Ryan
31st December 2014, 22:07
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First, Mutchie asked us to post this. It's copied and pasted verbatim.

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Deep space operations that is the US ARMY launch site DOT MIL...The same Army that runs the REDSTONE ARSENAL that Von Braun and the NAZI SCIENTISTS first went to the Kwajalien Atoll has been active since 1956 ... A second stage of the DELTA IV- HEAVY vehicle was used to deliver 15 ton payloads from Earth orbit to docking at L-1.

DELTA VI Boeing launched from Cape Canaveral and Vandenburg by 21 SOPS.

Our ULA united launch alliance .... Oh then i get informed about a mysterious space plane that has just landed after A 2 YEAR MISSION !!!!

Then you will love this i get an e mail from the insider telling ME he wants to keep me updated i thought about this and i decided i was probably being used as a leak "a controlled one lol " you see i did ask things but he made it CLEAR i was only getting up to date UNCLASSIFIED STUFF then as if all this wasn't enough a guy calling himself N J MOOCH Emailing me he wanted to meet me so he sent me his real name and credentials as i had NO REASON TO TRUST HIM so i checked he had Global access at the Pentagon he was D I A / INTEL he spent 3 days talking to ME but KEVIN these forums you need to understand the governments of this world have infiltrated most forums they feed disinfo / if and when depending on said situation .... So you can be sitting on the TRUTH and these guys will confuse everything and everyone then people do not know what to believe. Kevin that 1st paper i sent you is only 1 abstract .... YET IT IS VOLUMES !!

The Top line Space Resources roundtable vi 2004 a simple google search leads to literally thousands of documents ALL ARE ABOUT OFF WORLD MINING !!!! They are presently engaged in the development and adaptation of existing technologies and methodologies for use extra terrestrially as precursor for ISRU and for ISSE this is to support longer term missions.I have papers on the Space station Luna 1 and all kinds of other tit bits more later .

Then Mutchie wanted to reference this page:

http://buzzaldrin.com/space-vision/rocket_science/aquila

Here it is, including images:



Aquila
A flexible, reusable and powerful launch solution.

The Orbiter is the aging part of the Shuttle
system. The rest of the launch vehicle is very
capable. And we need a heavy-lift vehicle if
we’re going to ever go beyond low Earth orbit.
So that’s why my band of brothers, my band of
consultants, has been looking at using a
Shuttle-derived launch vehicle and an eight-
person crew module. We call it Project Aquila..

Buzz Aldrin - CNN interview with Paula Zahn, Aug 26, 2003

http://buzzaldrin.com/images/aquila_diagram_1.jpg

The workhorse for the Apollo lunar missions was the Saturn V rocket – a “Heavy lift” rocket capable of launching up to 260,000 lbs of payload into Earth orbit, and 104,000 lbs all the way into lunar orbit. The Saturn V sent America’s astronauts to the Moon nine times, including six missions that landed on the Moon, from 1968 to 1972. After being used for the launch of America’s first space station Skylab in 1973, the Saturn V heavy lift was retired.


In 1972, NASA shifted gears to develop America’s next space transportation system – the Space Shuttle program first launched in 1981. With a payload of only 55,000 lbs and a destination altitude of about 215 miles above the Earth, within the area referred to as “low-Earth orbit,” a heavy lift rocket launcher was deemed not necessary. The Shuttle, being partially reusable, was intended to be the workhorse of America’s space program, reducing costs and making flight into space routine. These goals proved elusive.

Fast forward to 2002 when Buzz and his team at Starcraft Boosters, Inc. responded to NASA’s need for a next-generation launch system that would once more send astronauts beyond low-Earth obit. A firm believer in an evolving human spaceflight capability beyond low-Earth orbit, Buzz guided his team in a new design for a heavy lift launch vehicle – along with a new orbiter designed to expand crew and cargo capacity, and serve as an escape pod if necessary.


http://buzzaldrin.com/images/aquila_diagram_2.jpg


The result was Project Aquila – the Latin word for “eagle” – named after the Aquila constellation on the east side of the Milky Way that resembles an eagle.


Aquila’s launch vehicle design was to be derived from the Shuttle system, but evolve into a heavy lift system by placing engines at the bottom of the Shuttle’s external tank. Aquila would carry more than twice the mass of the current Shuttle payload capacity. It would have the capability to accomplish large space missions (like building a space station or space hotel) at a lower cost and risk, since fewer flights and less assembly in space would be required. And it could be made ready for flight by the year 2009.


http://buzzaldrin.com/images/aquila_diagram_3.jpg


Aquila’s upper stage was designed to replace NASA’s Shuttle Orbiter space craft with a less complex side-mounted multi-use pod featuring its own rocket stage, modular components, and flexible configurations of crew and/or cargo. The crew module was to be named Altair – after the largest star in the Aquila constellation. The proposed pod options or blocks included:


Block 1 – An 8-person Altair crew module carried in the pod with wings folded up, plus a 62,000 lbs cargo capacity to low-Earth orbit.
Block 2 – A 6-person Altair crew module carried in the pod, usable for crew escape at any stage in the launch, plus a 3000 lbs payload for missions into lunar space.
Block 3 – A cargo only configuration capable of delivering 89,000 lbs up to the International Space Station.

http://buzzaldrin.com/images/aquila_diagram_4.jpg

As the space tourism industry evolves, Aquila could also be used for vertically launched adventure travel into Earth orbit, to visit space hotels and for lunar circumnavigation trips. Ultimately, a future growth version of Aquila, called Aquila II, would result in a super Saturn V class of payload capabilities.


Mutchie also wanted to share these images:



http://projectavalon.net/Mutchie/missiledefence.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Mutchie/Aristarcus_MA_03.jpg


And finally, this text:






I am doing a kind of interview which was actually just a conversation to begin with but it got REALLY INTERESTING, so here we go. My friend I will call Uber Skeptic...

Alright, Uber, I just watched a new video on YouTube [this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPRpLYNgef0), posted in my post #1 above] showing some new footage of structures and one of a massive radar which could be miles in diameter. The interesting thing about this object is that it is pointed right at our planet earth.
Underneath it you can clearly see the cross members of the supporting structure and here's the REAL highlight just not far from that is an opening maybe rising 1 mile high. It looks like a silo. The top of it is clearly open. So c,mon, dude, who is up there?



Kevin, my latest info is that the RUSSIANS have 2 fully functioning bases on the far side & they have an orbiting station.
So you're saying all the activity on the moon IT'S US ?



Yes, the US ARMY was there before Apollo... BUT, I cannot prove that.
I did have a guy from Edwards tell me that I am 90% correct in my secret space program stuff. He was an insider. Took me ages to find out on ATS.
So are all the structures made by us or were there more ?



Kevin, there are ancient workings up there - technologies which we took a very long time to get to grips with.
I do not know if the ancient technology was originally man made or if it was of ET origin.
Kevin, Aldrin has made millions off of his new ventures. Have a look at my paper.

Innocent Warrior
1st January 2015, 07:43
I feel like a kid in a candy store. :happy:

Mutchie, what's that light the person is holding in that photo in your OP? Also, what's in that last photo, in post #7? Is it a base or a craft?

Bill Ryan
1st January 2015, 12:10
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A couple of bits of supporting testimony (if any were needed!):

Secret Structures on the Moon - Sgt. Karl Wolfe, US Air Force / Disclosure Project Testimony Archive



Karl Wolfe was in the Air Force for four and a half years beginning in January 1964. He had a top secret crypto clearance and worked with the tactical air command at Langley AFB in Virginia. While working at a NSA facility he was shown photographs taken by the Lunar Orbiter of the moon that showed detailed artificial structures. These photos were taken prior to the Apollo landing in 1969.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fnSkLV7s0k

And here's Jay Weidner (30 June 2010), who also knows a thing or two. He says in this short extract that that he was told by NASA sources that we've been on the moon since the 1950s. Short and excellent — do listen.

http://projectavalon.net/Jay_Weidner_Secret_Space_Program_and_Mars_30_June_ 2010_extract.mp3

Nick Matkin
1st January 2015, 12:34
Very interesting posts.

I'm particularly interested in the type of communications between the moon base and Earth. Is there anything at all known about this?

Thanks.

Nick

Jean-Luc
1st January 2015, 13:05
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A couple of bits of supporting testimony (if any were needed!):

Secret Structures on the Moon - Sgt. Karl Wolfe, US Air Force / Disclosure Project Testimony Archive

Yes, definitely still being needed.

The one with Sgt Karl Wolfe is a pure delight for his spontaneity, simplicity, sense of humor together with the excellent quality of the video.

I love when he tells around 4:00 how he confused (in 1965) NSA for NASA.
Or when he shares around 20:00 how slightly upset he was 30 years later when he started talking about all this, about the governement's piles of cover-ups & deception.

Really worth watching.

Nick Matkin
1st January 2015, 13:34
Yes, definitely still being needed.

The one with Sgt Karl Wolfe is a pure delight for his spontaneity, simplicity, sense of humor together with the excellent quality of the video.

I love when he tells around 4:00 how he confused (in 1965) NSA for NASA.
Or when he shares around 20:00 how slightly upset he was 30 years later when he started talking about all this, about the governement's piles of cover-ups & deception.

Really worth watching.

How old is Sgt Karl Wolfe? In 1965 surely he must have been at least 18. That makes him at least 65 now. The video looks fairly recent, and if it is he doesn't look old enough...

Nick

Cidersomerset
1st January 2015, 13:55
There is always a slant given in these documentaries of the 'fear' factor if they
want to invade us there is nothing we can do about it etc.....Although I don't
agree with Steven Greer that all Aliens are benevolent because if not we
would have been invaded by now. I feel its a mixture of many things that
have happened over the eons and we do not really know our true heritage
thus our destiny yet.Though we all feel theres much more than the official
stories we have been given by mainstream science and theology, other wise
we would not be here.......

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This is the full documentary the top clip of this thread is taken from......

Aliens On The Moon - The Truth Exposed 2014

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Published on 21 Jul 2014


Aliens On The Moon - The Truth Exposed 2014
Conspiracy theories about Earth's moon persist forty-five years after the first
human visit to the Moon.Some believe that the Moon landings never occurred, but
instead were staged. Others believe humans have been to the Moon, but were
warned to stay away by lunar residents. But, thanks to Syfy, the veracity of the
claims about aliens on the Moon may finally be revealed in this documentary titled
Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed.

July 20, 2014 marks the 45th anniversary of man's first landing on the Moon.
We've all seen the footage and know the "official" story from news reports, the
Internet and for younger viewers, from the history books. But what haven't we
been told about Earth's closest neighbor? What really happened on that historic
day? What did our astronauts encounter on the lunar surface? And what don't our
world's governments want us to know?

In this controversial special we will look at compelling evidence -- including never-
before aired NASA photos showing gigantic artificial structures -- suggesting the
Moon is being used as a base, and possibly a staging area, by a mysterious race of
alien beings. We will hear from experts, as well as astronauts who have walked on
the moon, and we'll reveal new facts and proof for the first time anywhere. Also,
viewers will see dramatic 3-D flybys of the lunar constructions derived from the
actual NASA data, and get an exclusive look at footage of a purported "female" E.T.
supposedly recovered during a secret U.S.-Soviet mission to the Moon in the 1970s.

Among the many shocking topics covered in the Special will be:

· Photos showing the undeniable existence of what look like installations, factories,
saucers, hangers and huge satellite dishes, possibly trained directly on planet
Earth. Viewers will learn that many of the extraordinary signs of an alien lunar
presence exist hidden from view, on the far side of our Moon.

· A gigantic structure resembling a "Nuclear Power Plant Cooling Tower" rising from
the floor of a perfectly round crater or "dish." Located nearby, another large
structure with a mile-long "pipe" extends out of it on a 45 degree angle and casts
an obvious shadow.

· Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin's startling interview where he reveals that a UFO
followed the spacecraft for three days on its way to the historic moonwalk, and that
a baffling "Monolith" has been photographed by NASA on Mars' moon Phobos.
Aldrin also assesses some of the lunar photos that strongly suggest alien structures
have been detected on our Moon.

· Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell's adamant contention that he knows for sure
UFOs are real, that there is an alien presence visiting the Earth (and the space
around us) and the U.S. government has been aware of it for several decades.

· Unidentified objects (dubbed "X-Drones" by researchers) that appear to be
carving long, deep tracks many miles across the lunar terrain.

· Other "towers" that rise many miles up from the lunar surface (higher than
anything made on Earth), photo evidence of a massive excavation operation on the
Moon and telltale signs the picture may have been altered to hide the truth.

· Extensive "pipelines" crossing over the crater rims, in and out, and bridges
spanning massive lunar canyons.

· A riveting Apollo 8 film showing what appears to be a huge "Smokestack" on the
Moon -- thousands of feet tall -- releasing a "jet-like" cloud as the spacecraft
passes over it.

· Russian Space Agency lunar orbiter photos of a 20-mile high "spire" clearly
sticking straight up from the Moon's surface, as well as a partially
destroyed "dome."

· Former NASA Photo Manager and "whistleblower" Ken Johnston's claim that he
screened an Apollo 14 film for a NASA astronomer showing five domed lights inside
a crater, with one releasing a plume of steam. He says the key sequence was later
spliced out! Johnston also reveals that during the Apollo 11 moonwalk, astronaut
Neil Armstrong switched over to the medical channel to alert mission doctors, "Alien
spaceships are parked around the rim of a crater, watching us!"

· Oil company executive Vito Sacchari's exclusive TV interview where he tells his
dramatic story of how he pressured NASA into letting him study 2000 lunar photos
in 1979 which clearly contained massive alien structures on the moon.

· A mysterious film reportedly showing a "female" alien aboard a landed lunar
module after allegedly being recovered during a secret U.S.-U.S.S.R. mission to the
Moon to examine an enormous fuselage-like structure photographed by Apollo 15.

Bill Ryan
1st January 2015, 14:59
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More:

http://exopolitics.org/apollo-11-photo-reveals-base-on-far-side-of-moon

Apollo 11 photo reveals base on far side of moon
http://exopolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/moon-base.jpg
NASA image AS11-41-6155 reveals what appears to be an alien base on the far side of the moon.

A photo from the online archive of the Apollo 11 mission reveals what appears to be a base on the far side of the moon. The object appears to be on the moon’s surface and is well illuminated. It is symmetrical with a long shaft separated at each end by a small sphere with another in the center. The spheres appear to be living quarters with connecting corridors. The object was recently discovered by an observer and announced today on UFO Sightings Daily (http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/2013/07/email-report-alien-base-discovered-in.html). The photo, AS11-41-6155 (http://archive.org/details/AS11-41-6155), is significant since whistleblowers have claimed that NASA regularly scrubs or destroys photos with any evidence of alien life or artificial structures. The Apollo 11 photo does not appear to have been digitally altered in any way, and may be stunning visual evidence of alien life on the far side of the moon.

Here is what the observer who first discovered the photo had to say in an email sent to Scott Waring (http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/2013/07/email-report-alien-base-discovered-in.html)from UFO Sightings Daily:
I need to let you know about my discovery of what seems to be some kind of UTO (unknown Terrain Object) or UFO, that appears on one of the pictures from an Apollo mission which I don’t remember which one (Apollo 11) it was…I took some screenshots so that you can see the object in very good detail. To me it looks like some kind of crystal tube with something that appears like an antenna or some kind of special weapon…not sure what it is, but we can figure it out. The first image is the original one which has lots and lots of unknown objects on the surface of the moon! J.M.The object is well illuminated and symmetrical. It appears to be artificial structure of some kind.


http://exopolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/AS11-41-6155-300x298.jpg
Location of object on far side of moon in image AS11-41-6155
– its relative size made it escape detection until recently.
Click here (http://exopolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/AS11-41-6155.jpg) for enlargement.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MfipaqEwAk
Significantly, whistleblowers have come forward to claim that NASA and affiliated government agencies have a policy of destroying or altering photos that reveal artificial structures on the moon or in space. Karl Wolfe, for example, claims that he witnessed NASA, the NSA and the US Air Force cooperating to remove such structures from Apollo and satellite imagery when detected. The Washington Times (http://www.disclosureproject.org/PCR-WashingtonTimes-May10.htm) had this to say of Wolfe’s whistleblower testimony:
Karl Wolfe, an Air Force sergeant who was assigned to the National Security Agency, said that mysterious structures were discovered on the far side of the moon when the United States was mapping its surface before the 1969 lunar landing. Those photos too were culled out of the public record.Another whistleblower is Dr Ken Johnston who was a manager of NASA’s Data and Photo Control Department. Johnston claims t (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlmUfT0q-Jo)hat he also witnessed moon photos showing artificial structures and was asked to destroy the photos. He refused and was fired by NASA.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x3I3hX8_pQ
If tampering of Apollo and satellite imagery of the moon’s surface is a regular policy implemented by various NASA and other US government agencies as Wolfe and Johnston claim, then Apollo imago AS11-41-6155 (http://archive.org/details/AS11-41-6155) may have remained unaltered since the object it depicts escaped detection (see above image). The photo is very large (40 megabytes) and it takes close scrutiny to discover the anomalous object. In conclusion, Apollo 11 image AS11-41-6155 (http://archive.org/details/AS11-41-6155) may be smoking gun proof of an alien base on the far side of the moon.

Further Reading:


Is the US Congress investigating alien bases on the moon? (Photos) (http://www.examiner.com/article/is-the-us-congress-investigating-alien-bases-on-the-moon)
NASA caught deleting UFO photos from its website (http://www.examiner.com/article/nasa-caught-deleting-ufo-photos-from-its-website)
Neil Armstrong dies along with secrets of what he saw on moon (http://www.examiner.com/article/neil-armstrong-dies-along-with-secrets-of-what-he-saw-on-moon)
Did Neil Armstrong receive death threats to keep moon secrets? (http://www.examiner.com/article/did-neil-armstrong-receive-death-threats-to-keep-moon-secrets)
Did the US Air Force try to nuke the moon? (http://www.examiner.com/article/did-the-us-air-force-try-to-nuke-the-moon)

Bill Ryan
1st January 2015, 15:18
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Much more here:

http://projectavalon.net/DISCLOSURE.pdf

http://projectavalon.net/DISCLOSURE_cover.gif

Karl Wolfe's testimony is recorded on p.413 of the book (p.403 of the PDF). It seems (re Nick's question above about his age) that he was interviewed in 2000, which would explain any apparent anomaly concerning his age.

Atlas
1st January 2015, 15:59
Another take on AS11-41-6155 (https://archive.org/details/AS11-41-6155):

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Harley
2nd January 2015, 02:08
Just a couple comments:


I'm particularly interested in the type of communications between the moon base and Earth. Is there anything at all known about this?Nick

I know that back in the mid 70's to mid 80's, one type of space comm being used by the AF was the standard allocated military band in the UHF spectrum (225.0 - 399.9 Mhz) and the modes used were Narrow Band FM (NBFM), Encryption (Crypto), and Frequency-Hopping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency-hopping_spread_spectrum), which all combined made interception or jamming near-impossible. This type of system was used primarily, but not exclusively, for vehicle-to-ground and vehicle-to-vehicle communications. Although now much more advanced and sophisticated, the same frequencies and modes are still in use today.

Other forms of communication that I know was being used at the time, but I knew little about (wasn't in my job description), was Microwave and Maser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maser). These types of systems were used primarily, but not exclusively, for stationary (ground-to-ground) communications which operated in the SHF spectrum at around 20 GHz.

Remember that the above is what I know was being used up into the 80's. Today I'm sure they're also using more advanced technologies such as LASER, and probably some "Black" tech as well.

An interesting read is a NASA document titled Advanced Communication Systems (http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/203071main_Advanced%20Communications%20-%20TEC%20Final%20-%202007.pdf), which is an Overview of Constellation’s Command, Control, Communications, and Information (C3I) Architecture and Concept of Operations, and covers subjects like:

* Lunar Sortie & Outpost Buildup
* Communications
* Security (COMSEC)
* Communication Link Types
* Ultra-wideband for the lunar surface communications
* Optical communications for Lunar to Earth Trunk Lines
* Space Network
* Command & Control
* And more

Remember that this info is from NASA (only what you get to know), but it certainly sounds like a military-based program to me.



[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;918407]Or when he shares around 20:00 how slightly upset he was 30 years later when he started talking about all this, about the government's piles of cover-ups & deception.

Tell me about it. It's definitely not easy (for several reasons).

Back in the day, everything I worked on and experienced was just daily routine and part of the job. But I was young and it was all so very interesting (there were a few eyebrow-raising moments). But it wasn't until about 10 or so years later, when I started being recruited into increasingly deeper mil-ind aerospace programs requiring even higher levels of clearance (including SAP and USAP), that I began to realize some of what I HAD been working with in the AF.

And that's only pertaining to the stuff that I DO remember.

After retiring (30 years later) it's gotten much worse.

Mutchie
2nd January 2015, 05:28
I havent posted since i sent Bill the documents ... Bill knows the man who has exposed this stuff to me ... This guy who has been seriously chasing moon secrets for 2 decades now received a simple e mail from a man claiming to be J Mooch he sent his credentials and supplied PROOF of who he was " HE HAD GLOBAL ACCESS to the PENTAGON so the the guy came to Vegas and stays 3 days telling my friend all sorts of stuff .... then he has an Admiral i have his credentials i havent released THEM he supplys a year 7 update on the state of things within SOPS " Space ops " it was told to ME that various ET who live very close to us like say one of saturns moons and one on Venus were ALL unhappy with the way we treat our planet but they all agreed not to involve themselves in others affairs ....

Nick Matkin
2nd January 2015, 10:07
Thanks Harley. Very interesting.

I didn't expect 'conventional' RF was going to be used since there is the risk of it being detected even if not decrypted. A look at the websites of priyom.org (http://priyom.org/) and Enigma 2000 (http://www.apul64.dsl.pipex.com/enigma2000/) represent just two of the groups of extremely dedicated individuals who scour the radio spectrum 24/7 for unusual signals. (Those two groups specialise in a specific type of HF signals, but there are others doing the same for other natural and man-made signals on frequencies above and below HF. Many observers have professional backgrounds in the field and have amazingly sophisticated equipment.)

I was assuming there would be some sort of advanced, non-RF transmissions, but I had overlooked 'good old-fashioned' RF frequency hopping/spread spectrum that, as you say, would be difficult to detect.

All fascinating...

Nick

Mutchie
2nd January 2015, 10:41
I dont know this for sure but I was told a while back they have holographic cover .... Think about it if Norm Bergrun can find UFO within Saturns rings that are extremely huge " say a 100 miles " then any advanced race out there we have to assume they have technology which will eclipse ANYTHING we have yet ... endymion crater was watched by this guy it was normally just a crater then this one day he got a fantastic shock it was totally different it was like a spaceport all spotlights around it central buildings exactly like the sort of towers airports have the pictures were on the living moon site - the next day IT WAS GONE !!! They know we are watching it makes sense .... im not saying the whole moon im talking sensitive areas we most likely have that ability now

I would like to STATE for the record that i spent 6 years chasing information purely online i am a simple working man who like anyone else has a routine to uphold but i was finding myself kind of FRUSTRATED at the fact that WE CANNOT TRUST OUR LEADERS THEY HIDE THE TRUTH / CONFUSE IT / TWIST IT and the more i find little nuggets i found the more pissed i was getting not in the sense that it was effecting my life but my thoughts on humanity were that its obvious the elite or whoever is really running the show care only for their own interests ....We claim to be enlightened yet we kill each other every day ...our countrys cannot even stay at peace especially USA they have an agenda im sure 9/11 was fixed to sway the public into a frame of mind .... The Disclosure programs gave me hope but they seem to be heard then they fade away And i notice in my own city Aberdeen / Scotland whenever im working at an oil company you cannot mention things like the moon being populated or the ET,S "Zetans" who we know are here people to this day mostly blindly believe that WE ARE THE ONLY SENTIENT LIFE IN EXISTENCE how arrogant and stupid is that thought with everything we know ....We here are a minority it seems !!! I think the truth is shocking the goverments seem unable to just tell us .... it is what it is - WE DESERVE BETTER FROM OUR FELLOW MAN !!! Happy new year to EVERYONE at Avalon much Respect Mutchie :cool: