View Full Version : The Math Does Not Lie: America Is One Hiccup Away From Total Anarchy
jerry
29th December 2014, 17:36
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Half the country is on welfare assistance of some sort. Seventy million Americans receive some kind of federal assistance in obtaining food. The United States is one disaster from total anarchy. The disaster is likely to result from an economic collapse. Please consider these numbers:
THE MATH DOES NOT LIE!
NATIONAL DEFICIT: $18 TRILLION DOLLARS!
UNFUNDED LIABILITIES: $240 TRILLION DOLLARS!
DERIVATIVES DEBT: ONE QUADRILLION DOLLARS!
UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS OUTNUMBER EMPLOYED AMERICANS!
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TAKES IN TWO TRILLION DOLLAR
LivioRazlo
29th December 2014, 18:20
It certainly is a spectacular time to be living in - this is all I know.
robinr1
29th December 2014, 22:58
one could only wish we could so easily replace the crooked gov we have now....with no rulers...ie anarchy.
Shezbeth
29th December 2014, 23:27
Please, what you are describing is not anarchy; anarchy means no rulers while what you are referring to is chaos and bedlam. Please bear that in mind with your descriptions. ^_^
jerry
30th December 2014, 00:21
thanks for taking the time to politically correct me, besides the title implies ONE STEP AWAY
Shezbeth
30th December 2014, 00:23
I think you mean 'grammatically'. ^_~
jerry
30th December 2014, 00:37
no, political works for me
M0JFK
30th December 2014, 01:48
Don't worry Jerry, we got your drift. There is always one...lol BUT also remember that the debt is a fiction anyway. The national debt of any country is fake because the money is created out of nothing so the interest bearing on it is also fake. The debt is false and can be written off at the stroke of a pen or in this case at the press of a button at a computer screen. Mr Dick Cheney even alluded to this fact once in a reply to a question to him about the national debt. Read an update here
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_09/remember_deficits_dont_matter032197.php
Cheney fully understands banking and once you do then you know what he meant by his remark that deficits do not matter.
jerry
30th December 2014, 02:40
kind of preaching to the choir . If there was one person out of the whole mess that we could say is responsible Dick tops my list
Shezbeth
30th December 2014, 02:41
My apologies. Please continue with no further correction from me; I should have known better than to attempt to inform others of their misuse of the basics of their native dialect and further should allow them to opt in the manner of simians to their hearts content.
jerry
30th December 2014, 02:47
Superior quality amplifies the intrinsic value of a given quantity of one or another pleasure.the higher quality pleasures are complex mental pleasures .the idea that life has “no better object of desire and pursuit” than pleasure is “a doctrine worthy only of swine.” In other words, the
objection is that pleasure is not the only good. Nor is it the highest good. There are other things people
reasonably care about. other than pointing a thought of mistake that is of little value but of thee swine critic .
Hanson
30th December 2014, 03:52
I personally would like to try anarchy in place of the con-game the crooked governments run on us 24/7. Anarchy has to be an improvement over what we have now.
fractal being
30th December 2014, 04:00
I remember it was July 2011 when the senate was debating to increase the debt cap at 13 trillions. Now it's above 18!!!! How did the American people allowed for 1/3 increase of their national debt in just 3 years, and thus hypothecate the future of their youth, it's still beyond my comprehension...
Robin
30th December 2014, 04:08
AHEM....cough....cough!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh2WeAO-5tE
:)
robinr1
30th December 2014, 04:31
I really like him......thanks for posting...
AHEM....cough....cough!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh2WeAO-5tE
:)
WhiteLove
30th December 2014, 15:36
OK, I just realised that from whatever point of view I'm approaching this topic, I'm left with a sad undeniable fact that creates the opposite to peace within me, so instead of going in any of those directions about this, I figured it's best that I just express a few of my political views, they might be associated to stress too, but at least they are authentically providing some color to the mess that this topic deals with.
First of all, let me just explain that although the US is the target nation of this topic, in no way are my political views scoped uniquely to this country, my world view is that the whole world is corrupt down to its very core, the issues we are facing are global in scope.
The problems are rooted in a constant focusing of energy towards limitations rather than focusing it towards unconditional love. Here are some examples:
- "Illegal immigration is a root to evil, all those immigrants take our jobs and they destroy our future, we must fight them with violence"
This is a quite common political view today, kind of a bi product of the kind of emotional and intellectual states that governments and political parties are feeding us. In my view this kind of thinking is a result of focusing energy towards limitation - "you should be limited about being able to come here, this is ours, don't come here because we don't love you unconditionally, you take our jobs and you make us suffer, this is not your country, so stay away". Moving from limitation to unconditional love when it comes to this particular issue is about focusing the energy like this: "We used to have massive strict immigration rules in the past, because we focused our energy towards limitation, away from unconditional love. Now that we understand that true peace comes from unconditional love, we also understand that we need to remove all of the limitations that come with immigration rules, we remove it completely, we welcome everyone in unconditional peace and love and in doing so we make not only ourselves but also the people of this world one step closer towards true love, liberty, openness and peace."
- "We need banks, we need financial systems"
I strongly oppose this idea. Banks and financial systems are not subject to issues, they are the issues we are witnessing. And the reason is this. When you create banks and financial systems, you setup a world of limitation in how the people of this world can access and experience things in this world: In order to be able to get a house for your activities you need a loan, in order for the loan to get approved you need to have job, in order to get a job you need to have an education... It's a pure dream killer for people. It is a result of focusing the energy towards limitation. A society focusing its energy towards unconditional love is approaching this in a completely opposite way: How can we as a collective ensure that resources are provided unconditionally based on love to whoever that need them, how can we ensure the people that need particular resources the most get those resources unconditionally, so that we the people can enjoy seeing dreams come true for everyone. Can you imagine the amount of jobs THIS would create...
- "We need political leaders to solve our problems"
Again, limitation is born. We really don't need any particular person to do the cleaning and problem solving, all we need is a particular state of being - each one of us, because that state of being by its very nature brings peace, harmony, joy to manifestation, because it has no limitation attached to it, so what comes from it, is great enough. Now, at this point we might be facing a wall of power, laws etc. in the way towards manifesting a world free from limitation, but that is why this thread is so important, because we the people must use the collective power and collectively ensure the global corruption is replaced by a world in true love and peace, with happy people that enjoy everything they experience in life.
"Share any valid details about how this world is governed and I will find a set of limitations in that"
- WhiteLove
jerry
31st December 2014, 21:04
My apologies. Please continue with no further correction from me; I should have known better than to attempt to inform others of their misuse of the basics of their native dialect and further should allow them to opt in the manner of simians to their hearts content.Superior quality amplifies the intrinsic value of a given quantity of one or another pleasure.the higher quality pleasures are complex mental pleasures .the idea that life has “no better object of desire and pursuit” than pleasure is “a doctrine worthy only of swine.” In other words, the
objection is that pleasure is not the only good. Nor is it the highest good. There are other things people
reasonably care about. other than pointing a thought of mistake that is of little value but of thee swine critic .
nenosema
31st December 2014, 22:05
Tao n Anarchy (http://www.strike-the-root.com/3/gillespie/gillespie1.html)
jerry
31st December 2014, 23:00
Tao n Anarchy (http://www.strike-the-root.com/3/gillespie/gillespie1.html)excellent post Nenosema if we could only get our slave masters to see things in the light of Toaism
nenosema
1st January 2015, 13:37
Tao n Anarchy (http://www.strike-the-root.com/3/gillespie/gillespie1.html)excellent post Nenosema if we could only get our slave masters to see things in the light of Toaism
Aoh cool and I'm not even good at math... under this science we subtract them now right?
These 'money systems' it was made to fluctuate and bring devistation through any system in place who uses it.
The simple fact that we can feed everyone on Earth astounds people, if we became as equal we could & wouldn't be rations either, there would be plenty.
If just for a minute we could imagine a world where any kind of slave masters and their money were to not exist.. (bare with me) ..And people were given time to sort through this mess, stuff like pollution, deforestation, gmo, old inhibitions.
I think it would be alot of porch sitting talkin in the beginning.. to remember how to Relax n be at ease learn how to laugh out loud again.. following by music and reconnecting with vibrational energies that have been missing~ from out of life for so long. The harmony of no borders or countries, teaching n sharing learning of languages, skills, science, making things, and growing flowers n herbs! & food everywhere!!!!! =D
It wouldn't be all about sadness and freaking out & oh what are we going to do about this eah stuff thats everywhere..
Totally that when we feel outside, in Nature , that it's welcoming us more and more to come home. that Being in Nature is become ing more and more of Home. just being outside in that way, connecting with the sun & the solar system, being prepared to Travel, there will be great connection.
say if you had two glasses of water & each when filled took up the space of entirety of humanitys imaginings n hopes and dreams.. ..were in this case a drop of water, each. One for the Freedom of every Earthling and the other the the Entrapment Of. which cup would you want to overflow? And How would you like to achieve this? everyone can have similar ideas but it's what you do with them love.
many people will think about ..and.. would like very much to pick up lots of the litter, but WHO will actually:behindsofa: pick up lots of the litter ?
:dance:
Okay to the Science, how did we delete those money systems?
How would you personally like to proceed if there were a total financial collapse? curious
East Sun
1st January 2015, 15:17
Chemtrails raining into our waters, on our food and on to our heads, into our lungs, blocking out the sky.
Poor, poor people, not knowing the enemy, who they unknowingly adore, not hearing when told, not believing their own Brother, grieving for their Sister in pain.
Believing the lie that never ends, that never ends, where will it end? We do not know, only that it ends for some, some day.
ES
jerry
1st January 2015, 16:09
How would you personally like to proceed if there were a total financial collapse? curious
needs to be given much thought as we wouldn't want to be hasty in an answer and most certainly a great thread starter
Maia Gabrial
1st January 2015, 16:43
one could only wish we could so easily replace the crooked gov we have now....with no rulers...ie anarchy.
Anarchy is so misunderstood....
jerry
1st January 2015, 17:30
one could only wish we could so easily replace the crooked gov we have now....with no rulers...ie anarchy.
Anarchy is so misunderstood....
along with soooooo much more, sometimes its best to let it go
Pam
1st January 2015, 20:37
Lets see , the government and the MSM set the stage by inciting and encouraging racial violence. This will encourage others that will just get off on the civil unrest and the opportunities it will present to join in. Not to mention the average citizen that has lived in quiet desperation and is raging with angst and futility which will finally have the opportunity to act out in a sort of anonymity.
But first we need a major event that will bring down the economy. I am betting on the staged decline in oil prices causing the first domino to fall in a series of events that will shatter the derivative and junk bond markets that have been boosted with easy money, loaned at rock bottom prices to begin the next major blow to our financial institutions. All of this occurring because a government that has been long bought out by corporations has done absolutely nothing to rectify the situations that caused the last bank debacle. What will the government do this time, lower the interest rates?
I read that 15-20 % of junk bonds issued are in the energy sector.As these shaky companies begin to falter and miss their financial obligations the pyramid will begin to crumble. How many more companies are directly dependent on those companies. I mean, after all, we are a petrol nation. I think the oil price decline is possibly much more meaningful than we thought it was. In 2008 we had a similar price war with oil and I don't think I need to explain what happened after that.
I'm not so sure that the governments plan to make the US a welfare state will provide the protection that they are hoping it will. I think the underlying rage and fear and long term hopelessness may finally win over the need to maintain a government that buys our passivity with a monthly check.
Wow, I hope I am wrong about this but its always fun to speculate.... Thanks , jerry for another interesting topic.
jerry
3rd January 2015, 19:06
You’re Either A Cop Or Little People’: The American Police State In 2014
For those of us who managed to survive 2014 with our lives intact and our freedoms hanging by a thread, it was a year of crack downs, clamp downs, shut downs, show downs, shoot downs, stand downs, knock downs, put downs, break downs, lock downs, take downs, slow downs, melt downs, and never-ending let downs.
We’ve been held up, stripped down, faked out, photographed, frisked, fracked, hacked, tracked, cracked, intercepted, accessed, spied on, zapped, mapped, searched, shot at, tasered, tortured, tackled, trussed up, tricked, lied to, labeled, libeled, leered at, shoved aside, saddled with debt not of our own making, sold a bill of goods about national security, tuned out by those representing us, tossed aside, and taken to the cleaners.
read more
http://www.westernjournalism.com/youre-either-cop-little-people-american-police-state-2014/#oMvBCvjHosiB6rz6.97
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what happened to your either with us or your with the terrorist
Zanshin
5th January 2015, 06:59
The paramount requirement for anarchy to succeed must start with self-governance [across the entirety of society].
It seems to me, the first step is to accept and acknowledge our individual part in creating the system we are immersed in.
Where, by our very existence, we are contributing to the collective consciousness that facilitates the mayhem we perceive
around us; perhaps the question is - How does one reverse the trend of submitting to the governance of the state, in favour
of reasserting ones ability to govern oneself?
Where Roosevelt's New Deal was the final implementation of the fiat corporatocracy that we are floundering in today (circa'33),
the quote below is one of many examples that the people were informed, along every step of the way (albeit in a deliberately
obtuse manner).
Source: This quote by Theodore Roosevelt in his address at the opening of the Jamestown Exposition on April 26, 1907, as reported in Presidential addresses and state papers (1910).
Complete Sentence: It behooves us to remember that men can never escape being governed. Either they must govern themselves or they must submit to being governed by others. If from lawlessness or fickleness, from folly or self-indulgence, they refuse to govern themselves, then most assuredly in the end they will have to be governed from the outside. They can prevent the need of government from without only by showing that they possess the power of government from within. A sovereign cannot make excuses for his failures; a sovereign must accept the responsibility for the exercise of the power that inheres in him; and where, as is true in our Republic, the people are sovereign, then the people must show a sober understanding and a sane and steadfast purpose if they are to preserve that orderly liberty upon which as a foundation every republic must rest.
As there will always be those who are incapable of self governance, total anarchy is but an elusive ideal - yet limiting the excessive power
of organised government is the duty and obligation of each and every one of us who values our freedom.
The bread and circuses of the modern MSM distraction is a daunting behemoth to overcome, however all of us that choose to accept responsibility for the exercise of power
that inheres within us, must accept the task of assisting in the awakening.
Bravo Avalon and other like minded groups. It was always to be grassroots, one mind at a time - until we reach that critical mass.
Bring on that 100th monkey - stay the course.
jerry
16th January 2015, 01:21
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The bread and circuses of the modern MSM distraction is a daunting behemoth to overcome, however all of us that choose to accept responsibility for the exercise of power
that inheres within us, must accept the task of assisting in the awakening.
Bravo Avalon and other like minded groups. It was always to be grassroots, one mind at a time - until we reach that critical mass.
Bring on that 100th monkey - stay the course.If we had a free and independent press more than half the battle would be done and won
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