Cringe yes ... yet it resonates despite the programmed recoil

[Calz]

Planet X ... so much nonsense for so many years.

Steve Quayle ... yes ... over the top and serious religious language.


Fletcher ... ooooh ... perhaps I have been missing some things over the years.


This is *really* worth a listen for those that have a couple hours to consider complementing their perception of reality.


If you step back and reconsider "planet x" (which our beloved Bob Dean on Camelot suggested would arrive in 2016) ... fits with this hard hitting fact finding mission.


Taken into the bigger context then perhaps this could be the "event" that everything else is based on.


Martial law???


Food???


Noah type floods???


Who knows ... take a listen with an open mind and listen to this guy.


I have not seen his latest dvds on the subject yet ... but it strikes a cord (for better or worse) for me.


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Nibiru Incoming! -"Something Is Really Strange" - Quayle, Fletcher, In A Must-Listen To Hagmann And Hagmann Show!

By Susan Duclos

A blockbuster Hagmann and Hagmann show from Friday night with special Steve Quayle, who brings on investigator and researcher Bob Fletcher, where they jump right into the topic of Nibiru and Planet X, with information that will blow your mind!

In the show below, you will hear about “connections between the missing billions of dollars, secrets of space programs, and future space oriented disasters INCOMING! As well as the sciences , astronomical experts, historic proofs, amazing space information being kept from us all!”

Fletcher explains right up front that there was a time he would not even associate his name with Nibiru and Planet X because it was “science fiction” in his mind, until he started uncovering vanishing money, thousands of underground facilities in Russia, United States and China, and other suspicious activities that related to this highly controversial topic….. Fletcher determined that “something is really strange”….. and the digging began in earnest.

Quayle reminds listeners as well about the deaths of many scientists and astronomers, which he has been tracking for two decades. See "Dead Scientists 1994-2003" and "Dead Scientists 2004 - 2014."

Quayle and Fletcher join the show at around the 3:15 minute mark.

Fletcher’s site bobfletcher.com can be found HERE and some excellent photos on this topic can be found.


(Link lost copying text ... here is his site)

http://www.bobfletcherinvestigations.com/

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[Lifebringer]

I was drawn into researching this just this past week. Latest developments and all that. My preparation is way behind. The economy hasn't changed for me and there is not extra anything anymore, with family members coming until they land on their feet. Love is present, but extras are not.

[Snowflower]

Oh dear. I really don't want to go there again, but two things make me. 1. I like things Calz has posted and should pay attention when he says, "watch." 2. My children turned away from me because Y2K didn't happen. I learned then that the true moral of the story is, "Never assume there is no wolf." So, I'll see if I can watch - maybe not all two hours unless it grabs me though. And really, despite the fact that I'll watch this video about Nibiru, I doubt there is anything or anyone that could get me to take Ben Fulford seriously (lol.)

[Calz]

One of the most interesting things Fletcher talked about is something I had not heard of ... the "Nebra Sky Disk".

Fletcher suggests this one, discovered in Germany in 1999, is actually a celestial map to capture the last passing of Planet X. Not everyone agrees but he adds that the time can be verified using modern astro programs to verify the positions of the planets and that serves to support the 1600 b.c. date determined by scientists.

... and yes ... that would make it very close to the supposed 3600 year cycle.

Who knows?

Interesting stuff.

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http://www.thuban.spruz.com/user/378341/members/AFD0A5CC-4084-4291-86B2-4D1C4EAB988D/nebra.jpg


The Secrets of the Nebra Sky Disc


The Nebra Sky Disc is a 3,600-year-old bronze disc which, according to UNESCO, features "the oldest concrete depiction of cosmic phenomena worldwide." The disc is such an extraordinary piece that it was initially believed to be an archaeological forgery. However, detailed scientific analysis revealed that it is indeed authentic and the precious artefact is now included in UNESCO’s ‘Memory of the World’ register, an international initiative launched to safeguard the documentary heritage of humanity, and is being held in the State Museum of Prehistory in Halle.

The Nebra Sky Disc was discovered in 1999 by two amateur treasure hunters illegally using a metal detector in Ziegelroda Forest, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany. It had been ritually buried in a prehistoric enclosure atop a hill (the Mittelberg), along with two precious swords, two axes, two spiral arm-rings and one bronze chisel. The enclosure is oriented in such a way that the sun seems to set every solstice behind the Brocken, the highest peak of the Harz Mountains, some 80 km to the north-west. The surrounding area is known to have been settled since the Neolithic, and Ziegelroda Forest is said to contain around 1,000 barrows.

The scientific studies of the Nebra hoard are probably among the most thorough ever carried out on any archaeological find in Europe. Study began when the objects were first impounded in 2002 and continued until the end of 2007. Nevertheless, dating the artifact has posed many difficulties, and while scientists have been able to determine that it was buried in 1,600 BC, they are unable to determine its date of manufacture, meaning it could be much older than its burial date.

- See more at: http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-technology/secrets-nebra-sky-disc-001526#sthash.oP797cFv.dpuf

[Desire]

thanks Calz

I've been following planet X on Zeta Talk for many years. Good to see it here .

[Snowflower]

Desire, Zeta Talk is the reason I have so much trouble even listening to stuff about Nibiru. Another of those "cry wolf" things. Nancy is not someone I can consider trustworthy, and I've never been able to figure out why folks think channeled information is trustworthy just because it's coming through mental telepathy. Negative forces can do telepathy as easily as positive ones.

[Calz]

The other thing of interest here was the reference to ***astronomers*** making the "dead scientist list(s)".

He suggests some were actually working on that type of project.

What would the PTB find so threatening that would need to occur???


Anyway ... yes Nancy really pissed off some people (I think some actually sold their homes based on her information).

That falls pretty much under the "channeled information" category.


This one is nothing like that ... but some of the dots he connects could well be attributable to others things.


:juggle:

[Desire]

Anyway To each their own, but I'm still glad it was brought up here. I,ve been putting together a lot of the dots and Fletcher just confimed some of them for me.With all those underground facilities something sure is up!And it does'nt look great for the average guy.But we can always put our attention on it to make a change for the better Much love;)

[araucaria]

Some of us looked at one or two of the side issues to the planet X business last year. The post below may be a good place to start:



Good Point araucaria ! "The controllers making a huge mistake? This may well be what is happening We think they are so powerful and so clever, we sometimes forget they are fear-ridden creatures, and fear can often trigger mistakes."

I haven't thought of this aspect for the building of the underground facilities but it makes very good sense. Understanding the history of the planet, we know at different times people needed to retreat underground for various reasons. Because some of the "elites" have access to the true history (we suppose) they have taken these precautions on a grand scale. However, it is my conviction that THEY DO NOT KNOW what is going to happen, and no one else knows either. I'm sure they are caught up in their stories about "knowing" with a good measure of egomaniacal certainty and elitism. They have been following a specific plan for centuries which is all about the continual and absolute control of this planet. The underground facilities are a part of this ongoing plan. BUT," the best laid plans of mice and men" as that saying goes. There is always the unknown element that no one can be aware of.

I also want to repeat something I said recently ....its my perspective that there are much bigger forces at work here that mostly we aren't aware of. The aspect of conscious intent or Cosmic Law perhaps it could be explained as. Is the Sun a living being with a higher purpose that is a intricate participant in this plan? Or just a gaseous, fire ball following mechanical processes that are predictable. How much do we really know? Not much.

Again, my perspective is....a part of the controllers plan was to have a catastrophic event brought in that would assist in their ultimate take over hence the underground bases. I may be a delusional optimist, but my feeling is, that event isn't coming, they are being foiled. There are other forces in play here. We could get into timelines and how those are formed, what will manifest in our reality? Surely the "otherside" is aware of this process and their diligent work to bring in the "timeline" they want to manifest. This always involves catastrophic events and we are bombarded with those possible scenarios in the media. Some say, and it makes great sense, that humanity is carrying the emotional trauma of having experienced these catastrophic events from times past. Our history is hidden... so, this hidden trauma is being exploited that injects fear/preparation for survival at a cellular level. All this to help bring in the desired timeline which manifest by humans conscious energy. We are great creators but mainly don't realize it.

Anyway, that's my viewpoint. Lately I've been wondering why there is all this concern about a imminent threat of some horrific event happening soon. Where is this coming from? I just don't get it.

Thanks for taking the time to read, if you have.

Love and Peace, SunSea

you got that exactly right.

they are playing from a viewpoint of where the planet would have went if those from the future were not here preventing it all from happening again. All their predictions fail. They will continue to fail. They will play out every fear attempt they can create and that will fail too. when they can no longer be cause over anything they will become insane to the point where they will look like institutional cases, while those who change over can destimulate from all that suppression they've been living through for years

jim

[Calz]

Some of us looked at one or two of the side issues to the planet X business last year. The post below may be a good place to start:



Good Point araucaria ! "The controllers making a huge mistake? This may well be what is happening We think they are so powerful and so clever, we sometimes forget they are fear-ridden creatures, and fear can often trigger mistakes."

I haven't thought of this aspect for the building of the underground facilities but it makes very good sense. Understanding the history of the planet, we know at different times people needed to retreat underground for various reasons. Because some of the "elites" have access to the true history (we suppose) they have taken these precautions on a grand scale. However, it is my conviction that THEY DO NOT KNOW what is going to happen, and no one else knows either. I'm sure they are caught up in their stories about "knowing" with a good measure of egomaniacal certainty and elitism. They have been following a specific plan for centuries which is all about the continual and absolute control of this planet. The underground facilities are a part of this ongoing plan. BUT," the best laid plans of mice and men" as that saying goes. There is always the unknown element that no one can be aware of.

I also want to repeat something I said recently ....its my perspective that there are much bigger forces at work here that mostly we aren't aware of. The aspect of conscious intent or Cosmic Law perhaps it could be explained as. Is the Sun a living being with a higher purpose that is a intricate participant in this plan? Or just a gaseous, fire ball following mechanical processes that are predictable. How much do we really know? Not much.

Again, my perspective is....a part of the controllers plan was to have a catastrophic event brought in that would assist in their ultimate take over hence the underground bases. I may be a delusional optimist, but my feeling is, that event isn't coming, they are being foiled. There are other forces in play here. We could get into timelines and how those are formed, what will manifest in our reality? Surely the "otherside" is aware of this process and their diligent work to bring in the "timeline" they want to manifest. This always involves catastrophic events and we are bombarded with those possible scenarios in the media. Some say, and it makes great sense, that humanity is carrying the emotional trauma of having experienced these catastrophic events from times past. Our history is hidden... so, this hidden trauma is being exploited that injects fear/preparation for survival at a cellular level. All this to help bring in the desired timeline which manifest by humans conscious energy. We are great creators but mainly don't realize it.

Anyway, that's my viewpoint. Lately I've been wondering why there is all this concern about a imminent threat of some horrific event happening soon. Where is this coming from? I just don't get it.

Thanks for taking the time to read, if you have.

Love and Peace, SunSea

you got that exactly right.

they are playing from a viewpoint of where the planet would have went if those from the future were not here preventing it all from happening again. All their predictions fail. They will continue to fail. They will play out every fear attempt they can create and that will fail too. when they can no longer be cause over anything they will become insane to the point where they will look like institutional cases, while those who change over can destimulate from all that suppression they've been living through for years

jim


I start getting "cross eyed" thinking about timelines ... just sayin' ...


Some peeps suggest learning from the past ... perhaps I am still learning that one.


Yes.

There is quite a bit of compelling "circumstantial evidence" ... which at the end of the day doesn't really prove a damn thing.

... and yet ...

Start adding things up and connecting the dots ... starts to make sense.

All those "carved in stone statutes and cave art" showing a winged disk???


http://www.whale.to/c/winged3.jpg


All those stories and "myths" passed down from how many older cultures???

Native Americans and Chinese (off the top of my head) depict the Sun (appearing to) changing direction.

3 days of darkness???

Native Americans suggesting you simply need to get underground for several days because everything on the surface gets scorched (as in with a pole flip the magnetosphere goes bye bye for a short time).


How bout' those crazies from the Vatican building world class deep space telescopes ... wanting to take a snapshot of "God" flying by???


https://heavenzsword.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/large_binocular_telescope-500x330.jpg


Hmmmm ...


Oh yeah ... about that flood that is told about in most all cultures???


Think that goes beyond even weather modification ... what might it take to make those things happen???


http://buildingontheword.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Noahs+Arkcrop.jpg



Anyhoo ... my curious nature is running amok ... think I'll pop for the DVDs and see what else is there (4 hours with one hour deleted due to space).


Hoping for some clearer direction regarding the Sky Disk and whether or not there might actually be something there???


Fletcher seems convinced ...

[araucaria]

OK Calz. We’re talking about a time loop here. I find the easiest kind of loop to visualize is the color wheel. http://www.worqx.com/color/color_wheel.htm This is the colors of the rainbow arranged in a circle, and if you know next to nothing about color, the arrangement is seamless. You can go round and round like a roll of scotch tape and not find the starting point. Violet and red sit as neatly together as any two other colors and interact in the same way with their opposite colors. And yet they are poles apart along the visible light spectrum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color
Red has the longest wavelength and violet the shortest; red has the lowest frequency and violet the highest. This is the invisible seam that conceals the broader spectrum of infrared and ultraviolet and beyond. While the color wheel forms a coherent system of visible light, it nonetheless has this point where instead of progressing along increasing frequencies or wavelengths, there is a sudden step up or step down. If your only instrument is the human eye, then through your instrument you are tricked into staying in a groove in the same part of the spectrum.

Transposing this to time you might think of a speck of dust blocking the spiral groove on a vinyl disk playing back the same two seconds of music over and over again. would mean that there is a moment in cyclical perceptible time when a finer needle will pass through the obstacle, and instead of going back to an earlier point it can carry straight ahead into infratime or ultratime. It appears likely that this blockage in time is when civilization suddenly jumps from its highest frequency of hi-tech modernity back to the lowest frequency of primitive hunter-gathering. That is how we can say that, after multiple catastrophes, this time around we can get it right and escape the loop.

[crosby]

hi Calz, I found this interview very interesting. The way that Fletcher pulls it all together is resounding enough for me to continue to think about this issue. I think that this is still a very real possibility - even though it still may seem like a far-fetched eventuality. I am re-listening to it now with pen and paper to write down all of the names and situations so that I can do some of my own research to get a better grip. Thanks for posting!
warmest,
crosby

[Sunny-side-up]

One issue that always comes to my mind in relation to our Governments building of underground city's is, the issue of the Depopulation of Earth, well it's convenient for certain peoples consciousness to have a rouge Planet mess with us.

I personally feel/think there is something coming, be it a planet, Broken-planet-mass-of-derbies, bad ET's etc