A 'soul net' around Earth?

[zakkyD1302]

So iv been reading alot about what seems to be going on and I mean I honestly think aliens of some kind exist but this whole soul net thing doesn't make sense to me and it seems to have alot of holes in it if u read and watch other material on the subject but I was wondering if someone had some more information on this topic cuz I'm a little confused on if there even really is a soul net

[Sunny-side-up]

[Here is a goodstart point I think, way back in our planets beginnings and the entities that have deceived us ever since!

QUOTE]Posted by giovonni (here)
a brand new conversation ...

"My conversation with John Lash was so enjoyable and the information so in depth that this became part 1 of a 2 part conversation. John gives his most complete, concise telling of the Sophianic Myth as well as an in depth understanding of who/what the Archons really are" ...

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John Lash is a self-educated free-lance scholar and author who combines studies and experimental mysticism to teach directive mythology. He is a leading exponent of the power of myth to direct individual experience and drive historical events over the long term. On metahistory.org, he presents a radical revision of Gnosticism, with original commentaries on the Nag Hammadi codices. He also presents the only complete restoration by any scholar of the Sophianic myth of the Pagan Mysteries, the sacred story of Gaia-Sophia, recounting the origin of the earth and the human species from the galactic core.[/QUOTE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEV9u8aMH7w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsPghH2egnk

Prison-Planet which we are kept from leaving or planet+Sun+Moon for our very own domain, perspective's ha

[DaRkViPeR]

Scientists discover Earth's invisible FORCE FIELD that blocks 'killer energy' from space

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/540864/Shield-protects-Earth-invisible-force-field-killer-energy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2850566/Earth-protected-Star-Trek-style-invisible-shield-Scientists-probe-mysterious-barrier-blocking-killer-electrons.html

http://www.zengardner.com/nasa-mystified-by-enormous-energy-field/

Might be connected to the prison planet theory.

[Craig]

As a side note, looking around the earth and its bipedal inhabitants, do you really want us travelling the stars? No, I think we are a prison planet both physically and spiritually.

Hopefully not for ever, though it is not looking too good currently.

[Agape]

Scientists discover Earth's invisible FORCE FIELD that blocks 'killer energy' from space

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/540864/Shield-protects-Earth-invisible-force-field-killer-energy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2850566/Earth-protected-Star-Trek-style-invisible-shield-Scientists-probe-mysterious-barrier-blocking-killer-electrons.html

http://www.zengardner.com/nasa-mystified-by-enormous-energy-field/

Might be connected to the prison planet theory.


Yes there is , some of these layers are natural , caused partially by gravity loop

and couple of them are being man made .


They are like caps . They actually block lots of signal too ..


They're one reason for life achieving its certain 'top' and height and 'bending head down' , metaphysically and biologically .

Paradoxically ... more mankind's trying to reach up to the Stars they're now also covering their environment with extra level of pollution , electro-magnetical and chemical , this creates smog and certain frequencies are actually, more difficult to access ..


:angel:

[Agape]

So iv been reading alot about what seems to be going on and I mean I honestly think aliens of some kind exist but this whole soul net thing doesn't make sense to me and it seems to have alot of holes in it if u read and watch other material on the subject but I was wondering if someone had some more information on this topic cuz I'm a little confused on if there even really is a soul net

Soul net is one name for the 'common unconscious' of mankind , that is again , part of three or four layer biosphere inhabited by particular species .

This is one reason where the so called 'Gaia hypothesis' becomes important , all life in one particular biosphere is interconnected , to each other , forming different levels of systems where information and energy are exchanged at greater ,
say biological speed .

It looks like 'slow process' because we are basically slow compared to physical universe ,
but in fact .. it's a speed of fractions of nanoseconds that is happening at all times from every cell of our body to another cells .

That of course , barely suggest that energy is being passed around somehow but it does not explain how information is being passed around ..

now in computers for example , we count information in bits . And it is usually ... long chains of sequences .. of these 'bit's and bites we send and receive simultaneously from all sides ,

on you'd say 'impossibly low (or high ) frequencies' and the information flows in all system ,

the way swimming at Gibraltar actually swim in the same Ocean as fish in South America .

Though , they can't 'talk directly' they still, inevitably influence each others information field .



For human beings this 'Gaia phenomenon' has more specific and elaborate implication .. because we process information on several abstract levels which is an ability shared among all advanced forms of life = beings .

So we say there 's Super-conscious , subconscious and aware mind ..of mankind which all are part of this soul-net , information net particular for each species .

When this soul-net very tight-locked it's often nicknamed the 'hive mind' .



:angel:

[zakkyD1302]

Well what I don't understand is that iv read stuff saying that aliens can't come here because there memory gets erased but there have clearly been encounters with other beings so I'm just kinda confused on exactly how it works if it is here

[Sunny-side-up]

Well what I don't understand is that iv read stuff saying that aliens can't come here because there memory gets erased but there have clearly been encounters with other beings so I'm just kinda confused on exactly how it works if it is here

Other way round I think.
It is said and believed by many now that when your soul leaves it old husk of a body it/you will want to go to the 'Light' (as we have been told to told) but now believed by many to be a light-trap for your soul which then gets memory erased and returned here to stressfully try to understand things all over again, and not move on with full knowledge etc That is the moon-light-trap. That is not the same thing as the Prison-planet-barrier but part of it as implemented by those that would feed off our energies.

[Deega]

So iv been reading alot about what seems to be going on and I mean I honestly think aliens of some kind exist but this whole soul net thing doesn't make sense to me and it seems to have alot of holes in it if u read and watch other material on the subject but I was wondering if someone had some more information on this topic cuz I'm a little confused on if there even really is a soul net

ZakkyD, I have had the same questioning for awhile, I haven't found yet the real thing, for my comprehension. Agape think that it's the "mankind common unconscious", and it could probably be so. But, we don't know precisely about the unconscious mind, less so about the mankind one as a whole.

Using the scientific knowledge to describe this phenomanon will not suffise, the Scientific World has not yet reach that treshhold, but it will in time.

So I present an intuitive perspective of it.

Our body functions with 7 different organisms synchronized to do whatever mission one has to accomplished. And we have different bodies, emotional, physical, spiritual. IMHO, the spiritual is one who hold the key to the soul. The soul is part of an electromagnetic force (with god-like attributes) residing in our body. And we know that electromagnetic is driven by polarities. But in this case, it has divine attributes. The soul is like a electromagnetic plasma who take his seat within the body, is it in the head, the hearth?, I think it's surround all of our body, a unified body!

So, if it around the body, it would be feasable for higher intelligence (our creator) to use an algorythm (or an advance programming we don't know yet the name) to track the soul out of the body at death by some speculative emotional imageries! That's within a realm of possibilities.

For what we don't particularly know is, what was the precise motive of our immediat creator?, to experiment on genetic engineering!, to have slaves for their work!, to create communities where great act of courage!, of peace transcend our planet!, to take good care of Gaia, etc.

This was just an intuitive guest of our soul journey, my 2c!

The best to everyone.

[Omni]

Well what I don't understand is that iv read stuff saying that aliens can't come here because there memory gets erased but there have clearly been encounters with other beings so I'm just kinda confused on exactly how it works if it is here

ETs can come here, their memories do not get erased.

From what I understand it is hard to incarnate somewhere else right now for earthbound souls. Big reason being human society needs as many reasonable people as possible, so the ones in charge of such a thing are reluctant to allow higher souls to leave.

Some souls I imagine descend from heavenly planets down to hells like earth due to their incarnational history. For example the black ops agents that do so much negative to people, they might be punished by not being allowed to stay incarnating here once this planet turns into a Utopia(long ways to go but it will get there IMO).

Some souls need to learn more lessons that hard duality will bring them. So they are stuck here.

I have asked many times to be allowed to incarnate somewhere else next lifetime, or until global first contact due to my targeting situation. As I understand it, it is hard to secure such a thing...

So you have souls that came from ascendant places here, that are often targeted, crucified, sacrificed, molested, etc. That are here to make a difference and are important because without these souls humanity would be lost. Without lets say, the top million souls of earth, humanity could likely be going down the road to be a fallen angel race. Certain minds always find a way to influence others in a positive way. Those souls cannot leave so easily from what I've been told.

From what I understand the soul reality on earth is moderated by ancient extraterrestrials. Ones I have had contact with actually. It is controlled where one incarnates and who one incarnates as. Without such systems souls like Buddha could incarnate as a cow pig or dog, maybe even a tree.

I believe all the mechanics tied to souls leaving earth and joining earth are extraterrestrial moderated. They are the custodians of soul on earth. The problem is there are dark ETs who have power too. So things are not perfect always...

There is plenty I am not aware about, tons actually. But that is what I can think of right now...

[Buzzie]

Simon Parkes talks about a grid around earth that zaps souls of their memory and sends them back to reincarnate on earth. Check out his videos on Youtube.

[naste.de.lumina]

Some souls need to learn more lessons that hard duality will bring them. So they are stuck here.

I have asked many times to be allowed to incarnate somewhere else next lifetime, or until global first contact due to my targeting situation. As I understand it, it is hard to secure such a thing...

I believe all the mechanics tied to souls leaving earth and joining earth are extraterrestrial moderated. They are the custodians of soul on earth. The problem is there are dark ETs who have power too. So things are not perfect always...

There is plenty I am not aware about, tons actually. But that is what I can think of right now...

I respect your opinion my friend.

But I feel obliged to give my opinion, even this is different from yours.

I have difficulty understanding a system of 'evolution' in which nature with all its wisdom, wastes energy creating DNA helices that are never connected, to give just one example.

I do not believe that reincarnation on this planet has evolutionary purpose for the soul, although it can occur because of a side effect of the countless lives, is not intentional on the part of the parasites. Except for a few chosen and started.

The main grid matrixial prison at any level is mental.

In the soul level, how do you differentiate who is extraterrestrial, extradimensional or even of the planet earth (there are souls born on planet earth?)?

For me the 'custodians of soul on earth' and 'darks ets' to which you referred, work together with one and the same goal. Total slavery in all dimensions to which they have access on this planet.

I think that consent may be conscious or unconscious and is the key to this issue.

From the moment that you believe should ask permission to someone or something, your consent is already compromised.

From there the prerogatives of the free will to decide on this matter are no longer yours.

Hug.

Naste

[zakkyD1302]

Awesome all this information is great but still a little curious so basically if another soul or ET comes to earth and dies he could be stuck in the cycle that we must all be in? And I also read about a orion empire not sure if that empire still exists but I read that the empire Controlled r sector of the galaxy and earth so I'm wondering if maybe they have the net around there whole empire if anyone has any information on That would be very help ful

[Agape]

ETs can come here, their memories do not get erased.


Can but ...for the simplest explanation , I think, use an example of two concave mirror tablets of infinite proportions colliding together .

Communication is = reflections , it happens in between . Two , fairly convoluted reflections trying to talk together . One distorted 'human' , another 'distorted alien' image . Both are trying their best ..

in fact the 'alien' is trying lots more because he's guest here and may be first time visitor . He seems to be 'in advantage' so you automatically presume there's a huge advantage on his side ( Why so :confused:;)) .
However , being million years away from home is not an advantage . You have to learn about the language ,
whole new mentality, society structure is completely different than yours , experiences are exciting but people are varies ..
and you're expected to be of help here . Assistance and good will ,

not to mention good manners .

How can any ET be in advantage here , possibly . Most ended up hanged , in Los Alamos or otherwise .

Just mentioning that, from larger perspective . Of course also , any 'alien' will stick out , if not at all times then most of its time but not the way you want it .

That's not an advantage .

:angel:

[Omni]

I respect your opinion my friend.

But I feel obliged to give my opinion, even this is different from yours.

I have difficulty understanding a system of 'evolution' in which nature with all its wisdom, wastes energy creating DNA helices that are never connected, to give just one example.

Not sure what you mean here. Do you mean human DNA?


I do not believe that reincarnation on this planet has evolutionary purpose for the soul, although it can occur because of a side effect of the countless lives, is not intentional on the part of the parasites. Except for a few chosen and started.
Parasites? Something's purpose is often subjective. You seem to be saying soulular growth is a side effect of reality, instead of part of reality if I understand you? Like Icke says "Side effects? Those are the effects."

You think reincarnation is a system done by parasites? Am I right in saying that? Reality has a lot of perfections when you get past very hardcore dualistic earthly things. I don't think reality is composed to suit parasites so much that reincarnation is a parasitic plan against the soul or something...


The main grid matrixial prison at any level is mental.
I see the belief that reincarnation is somehow tainted, a synthetic matrix point of view. We are our own liberators. I am one of the most heavily targeted, and suppressed people around and I even have some mental freedom and do not view myself as in some sort of incarnational prison.

I guess I disagree on the physical aspect when thinking about it. The prison I am in, is called earth. It involves physical aspects as well as mental aspects. If I was on an alien planet, like many I have heard of, it wouldn't be a prison planet, one could leave if they wanted to really. If you tried telling one of them that reincarnation is some evil trap, they wouldn't want to hurt your feelings but they would disagree...

Unless one is too mind controlled one's mental freedom or slavery is up to themselves. I view myself as a free man, even though I am technologically subverted and tortured on a daily basis... "Paradise is not a place, it's a state of mind."


In the soul level, how do you differentiate who is extraterrestrial, extradimensional or even of the planet earth (there are souls born on planet earth?)?
Probably by analyzing the qualities of the soul, and energetic memory, and going from there. I imagine there are ways. Those labels have limitations though. ETs themselves wouldn't categorize their own souls as extraterrestrial. So more timeless labels are needed.



For me the 'custodians of soul on earth' and 'darks ets' to which you referred, work together with one and the same goal. Total slavery in all dimensions to which they have access on this planet.
I don't think you are in a position of knowing, to be honest. Not many are. The benevolent ETs go by mostly unnoticed in terms of their actions, also there are firm exopolitical agreements done by both parties, so it is natural for some to assume they are 'in on it' with dark ETs. They do discuss a lot together, however their agendas are far from each others.

The 'custodians of soul on earth' do not have any popular mouthpiece/channel conveying their points of view on earth really. The dark have all sorts of mouthpieces and channels, false light as well so people think the light is bad when it is just dark impersonating them... The 'Archons' are behind the idea that reincarnation is some negative trap IMO.

I think that consent may be conscious or unconscious and is the key to this issue.
Consent of any ET based soul coming to earth has been given to these systems in full knowledge of what they are. They have never been explained on earth before as far as I know. At least not accurately. Only the dark side has been allowed to bring their tinge to these subjects.



From the moment that you believe should ask permission to someone or something, your consent is already compromised.
There are existing systems based on soul made by extraterrestrials. Ancient systems that have considered every possibility in existence. WHat you say here sounds nice and all but when it comes to getting my soul to another world, I don't think meditating about it is going to cut it. It needs an ET race to take me there basically. So getting their consent is pretty important unless you think there is a better way to travel to another world to incarnate there... I don't plan on ninja incarnating on a planet of ETs. You get consent to incarnate among ETs within their own race. It is how it works...

From there the prerogatives of the free will to decide on this matter are no longer yours.
Free will in many areas is an illusion. Everyone having free will over where they incarnate would not work...

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Awesome all this information is great but still a little curious so basically if another soul or ET comes to earth and dies he could be stuck in the cycle that we must all be in? And I also read about a orion empire not sure if that empire still exists but I read that the empire Controlled r sector of the galaxy and earth so I'm wondering if maybe they have the net around there whole empire if anyone has any information on That would be very help ful
I was told if they die here they are stuck here for at least one lifetime. And in that lifetime they may get something similar to what I've gotten from the shadow government... Torture, subversion, indecency in general from TPTB.

[Kindred]

Nonsense... each individual is an Infinite Being, and manifests in Multiple Realities at the same 'time'... all time is simultaneous, thus you exist, virtually Everywhere, Simultaneously.

What we 'see' as division is a false perception.

The One is All, and All are One.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[ghostrider]

So iv been reading alot about what seems to be going on and I mean I honestly think aliens of some kind exist but this whole soul net thing doesn't make sense to me and it seems to have alot of holes in it if u read and watch other material on the subject but I was wondering if someone had some more information on this topic cuz I'm a little confused on if there even really is a soul net

your going to have to search this out for yourself , at your own pace , on your own time ... the Earth has a life zone that spirit forms live in until a material body is ready for the spirit to incarnate into again ... the soul it is said is a transitory thing that goes away after death but , the spirit remains immortal , this is my belief , search the topic out for yourself ... hint , it is a greenish hue that surrounds all planets capable of supporting sentient life ...

[zakkyD1302]

I think u have the "dark ets" mixed up if we r talking a out the same ones I could be wrong though iv heard from other sources that the dark ets r not dark as in bad they r dark as in we don't know anything about them iv heard that even races we Consider to be ancient ha e had very minimal Contact with them even through out there existence iv also heard that they might even be above the 30th dimension if those realms even exsist

[eagle0027]

Hellow all......first reply here since being invited on board.I would like to thank everyone for their posts and input.I will definitely not agree with everyones opinion but I certainly respect each and everyones ideas as a fellow soul finding our path and truth.

Just listened to the roswell interview (crash survivor being interviewed by a military nurse) a few days ago and the apparent off planet being has some very interesting comments about a few thousand of their kind being soul trapped here.

John Lear seems to think that there is a lunar influence to this regard although I have never heard him talk about why he thinks this.

Here again ..I don't believe all he has to say but have a huge respect for his knowledge and feel he knows a whole lot more than he speaks about.

Happy new year to each and every one of you---Be well

T

[naste.de.lumina]

I respect your opinion my friend.

But I feel obliged to give my opinion, even this is different from yours.

I have difficulty understanding a system of 'evolution' in which nature with all its wisdom, wastes energy creating DNA helices that are never connected, to give just one example.

Not sure what you mean here. Do you mean human DNA?


I do not believe that reincarnation on this planet has evolutionary purpose for the soul, although it can occur because of a side effect of the countless lives, is not intentional on the part of the parasites. Except for a few chosen and started.
Parasites? Something's purpose is often subjective. You seem to be saying soulular growth is a side effect of reality, instead of part of reality if I understand you? Like Icke says "Side effects? Those are the effects."

You think reincarnation is a system done by parasites? Am I right in saying that? Reality has a lot of perfections when you get past very hardcore dualistic earthly things. I don't think reality is composed to suit parasites so much that reincarnation is a parasitic plan against the soul or something...


The main grid matrixial prison at any level is mental.
I see the belief that reincarnation is somehow tainted, a synthetic matrix point of view. We are our own liberators. I am one of the most heavily targeted, and suppressed people around and I even have some mental freedom and do not view myself as in some sort of incarnational prison.

I guess I disagree on the physical aspect when thinking about it. The prison I am in, is called earth. It involves physical aspects as well as mental aspects. If I was on an alien planet, like many I have heard of, it wouldn't be a prison planet, one could leave if they wanted to really. If you tried telling one of them that reincarnation is some evil trap, they wouldn't want to hurt your feelings but they would disagree...

Unless one is too mind controlled one's mental freedom or slavery is up to themselves. I view myself as a free man, even though I am technologically subverted and tortured on a daily basis... "Paradise is not a place, it's a state of mind."


In the soul level, how do you differentiate who is extraterrestrial, extradimensional or even of the planet earth (there are souls born on planet earth?)?
Probably by analyzing the qualities of the soul, and energetic memory, and going from there. I imagine there are ways. Those labels have limitations though. ETs themselves wouldn't categorize their own souls as extraterrestrial. So more timeless labels are needed.



For me the 'custodians of soul on earth' and 'darks ets' to which you referred, work together with one and the same goal. Total slavery in all dimensions to which they have access on this planet.
I don't think you are in a position of knowing, to be honest. Not many are. The benevolent ETs go by mostly unnoticed in terms of their actions, also there are firm exopolitical agreements done by both parties, so it is natural for some to assume they are 'in on it' with dark ETs. They do discuss a lot together, however their agendas are far from each others.

The 'custodians of soul on earth' do not have any popular mouthpiece/channel conveying their points of view on earth really. The dark have all sorts of mouthpieces and channels, false light as well so people think the light is bad when it is just dark impersonating them... The 'Archons' are behind the idea that reincarnation is some negative trap IMO.

I think that consent may be conscious or unconscious and is the key to this issue.
Consent of any ET based soul coming to earth has been given to these systems in full knowledge of what they are. They have never been explained on earth before as far as I know. At least not accurately. Only the dark side has been allowed to bring their tinge to these subjects.



From the moment that you believe should ask permission to someone or something, your consent is already compromised.
There are existing systems based on soul made by extraterrestrials. Ancient systems that have considered every possibility in existence. WHat you say here sounds nice and all but when it comes to getting my soul to another world, I don't think meditating about it is going to cut it. It needs an ET race to take me there basically. So getting their consent is pretty important unless you think there is a better way to travel to another world to incarnate there... I don't plan on ninja incarnating on a planet of ETs. You get consent to incarnate among ETs within their own race. It is how it works...

From there the prerogatives of the free will to decide on this matter are no longer yours.
Free will in many areas is an illusion. Everyone having free will over where they incarnate would not work...

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Awesome all this information is great but still a little curious so basically if another soul or ET comes to earth and dies he could be stuck in the cycle that we must all be in? And I also read about a orion empire not sure if that empire still exists but I read that the empire Controlled r sector of the galaxy and earth so I'm wondering if maybe they have the net around there whole empire if anyone has any information on That would be very help ful
I was told if they die here they are stuck here for at least one lifetime. And in that lifetime they may get something similar to what I've gotten from the shadow government... Torture, subversion, indecency in general from TPTB.

I did not mean that all forms of evolution by reincarnation are constructions to parasitize. But I think that is what happens in our planet Earth. The original has been changed at various levels to fulfill the purposes of these parasites.

I also think that parallel astral realities that are inherent to the planet earth are controlled also by these parasites. I think even that information exchanged among these frequency bands are also filtered.

I do not mean by this that there can be no infiltration from the outside, but generally what comes to us through psychic channeling for example, was 'authorized'.

Let us take the example of an average guy who is born and dies at the age of 80.

About a third of his life he spend sleeping.

At least another third of his life working to survive in the financial system of slavery.

It will take another 10 years to again learn to speak, walk, read, understand the symbolism of their society, etc.

What is the time left to be able to learn and evolve. If you put the distractions and cultural conventions, the die will be charged with lying and misleading information. In my view evolution is practically ZERO.

Turns off everything and starts again. You can stay in this vicious circle forever.

Exos agreements in my name? Without my knowing? Are you serious? And I have to accept this narrative, because otherwise I'm too ignorant to understand why I have to be serving as a battery power while ets good and bad make arrangements in my name.

I'm sorry, but it seems a brilliant idea by the parasite's point of view.

Once again, your mind is your prison. What do you think is your limit. If you are sure that you need ets help to be able to come and go (analogy) in this single wave of energy that ultimately is multi-verse (including you), you will really need their help.

Free will has many levels and is directly proportional to the quality and quantity of stored information. So lying is a way of denying free will. And on our planet lies and the inversion is the rule rather than the exception

[naste.de.lumina]

Wes Penre Papers (http://wespenre.com/) has a theory about the formation of the soul that I keep in mind. At least in concept.

From what I understand he says that our soul is physically formed (for lack of a better term) for this universe in all its dimensions through our solar star. Thus our soul is born with the characteristics and potentialities of our sun, it would be originating in 10 density (Origin of our individual spirit?).

I found it interesting because it shows a perspective with a real reason that makes sense. Not all stars (hence souls) have the same potential and characteristics. May want to use us as a bridge between the limit them and other spheres that their souls for different reasons can not access.

Why would allowing a percentage of the population access to hidden information until then? Do not want all the cattle evolving, just enough to meet their purposes without causing problems.

Wes Penre also says that the weapons used in cosmic battles can easily destroy entire planets or take them from orbit. Can also smash the energy avatar of the soul. Thus eliminating the personality that would be wandering while the entropy disintegrates and the energy is absorbed by the early universe. The death of individuality occur then.

Also they can use the planet and its captive population of all tracks realities of earthly matrix, as a shield and / or blackmail against an opponent, which from our point of view would seem benevolent. Mass extinction card.

I have no doubt about this ability
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/1387/astronavisaturno1.jpg

Who's in charge of this spacecraft is not aware of what happens here on the planet Earth? Unlikely. Or he can not do anything as it would cause our destruction, or it is just who keeps us imprisoned or he just does not care. That is the reality we face. We need to do for us.

I can not say if this ship is extraterrestrial 3D or alien. It can be either of the two. We can see the 3D image does not mean that necessarily has 3D origin.

We have to differentiate well the characteristics of extraterrestrial (3D nature) and extra-dimensional aliens. The aliens are the vast majority of cases when it comes to the abduction phenomenon.

Another dimension means sinister consequences when it comes to physical death. Aliens ou Milabs abducting me while sleeping or trying to make it look like something similar in this sense, has to be taken into account when I try to build a bigger picture through my point of view. This kind of experience can not be ignored by me.

Also according to Wes Penre, the grid of the planet is full of holes where you can escape the electromagnetic grid. These holes also serve the purposes of archontes to create a kind of excuse to show that not oblige anyone to stay here.

The question that comes to my mind if I can identify one of these holes when the right time is as follows: I will explore the multiverse while my dear friends still in prison? I will turn my back and disappear?

Our challenge against principalities and powers seems to be very true.

The reflux is inevitable.

[Walter]

I would suggest reading, The Great Pyramid Decoded [Peter Lemesurier], where the author goes into great detail about the measurements of the Great Pyramid, and what they mean. One language that has never changes is the language of math, and numbers. The number one; will always mean one, and no matter where you go in the universe, if you are able to hold one finger up to the answer of the question of what God's name is.. I think you would get the answer right. (Just for the sake of argument)

After reading this book, and many others, my conclusion is that the ancients may have used a form of technology in building the pyramid that does trap souls here, and this is why, I believe, the capstone is missing. It is probable that a complete pyramid would allow souls to leave. If you look at the math, and the fact that the Great Pyramid in all its measurements, and mass, represents the Earth, and its different timelines. Subterranean level=dark age (current timeline), Queens Chamber=silver age (timeline we are heading into. with overlap of dark age), Kings chamber=golden age. It is said that enlightened beings can incarnate through the air shafts, each of which points at different constellations.

Walter

[Maknocktomb]

The soul trap theory is a interesting but limited concept. Our souls are existing in a infinite number of dimensions and experiencing every possible decision in this current incarnation all at the same time. If this is true, then how would a so called soul trap work? It would have to exist in every dimension. However, this can't be if every possible experience has, is and will occur. The threads of the tapestry that is are soul is always connected to the source and is never trapped. It can only be trapped if you perceive or believe it to be true. We are powerful beings and are more than capable of creating our own reality even in this slow vibrating hologram. Everything that I have experienced in this lifetime physically, and, spiritually (meditation/visitations) has shown me that we are not trapped and the soul will continue to grow and graduate from our current school.

[Agape]

One thing . Imagination is limited . Reality is limit-less .. Mind is imaginations . Mind itself is imagination . Every concept of mind is concept and every concept is imagination .
There's nothing called the 'mind' in reality what would fit into any concept .

Reality is limit-less .

We hold to the concept of limitless imaginations of mind . Do you know where they end , right ? At the edges of reality .... ;)

Happy New Year :cantina:

[AOG]

For myself, I have a hard time imagining the length of such an undertaking. As a human being, to engineer such a net around an entire planet seems like it would take quite a long time. Not to mention the resources and 'man' power such a thing would feasibly require. Again, I have trouble imagining where they would come from and what exactly they would be comprised of.

I can (and do) believe in a naturally occurring soul net comprised of the Earth's own list of energies, and one which interacts and returns a soul to this world during transition of this life into the next.

I believe this more readily than incarnations onto other planets in other galaxies. This may be an upsetting idea to some members here, and I would agree. I would much prefer to hedge my bets on reincarnation into other worlds than remain here on Earth, and be at the mercy of the design of whatever malevolent extra-dimensional presence that clearly exists here has in store. I would of course prefer to believe (and do sometimes) that the soul goes where it wants to and where it is needed and desired.

The reason that I more often believe the former is due to the fact that we are on Earth right now, along with the believe that we are apart of the Soul of Gaia --whom is the source of Earthly souls in the first place. Ultimately, Earth's soul belongs to the greater Universe at large, but I think that greater Universal extension to be less immediate to our personal experience of consciousness. Metaphorically, the Earth is a giant magnet and released souls are paperclips, hovering around only a short time before returning to their source. Instead of returned to an inhospitable magnet, or a magnet much, much farther away.

[Deega]

One thing . Imagination is limited . Reality is limit-less .. Mind is imaginations . Mind itself is imagination . Every concept of mind is concept and every concept is imagination .
There's nothing called the 'mind' in reality what would fit into any concept .

Reality is limit-less .

We hold to the concept of limitless imaginations of mind . Do you know where they end , right ? At the edges of reality .... ;)

Happy New Year :cantina:

Thanks Agape, I think that "imagination" is also "limit-less", and I share an example, in quest of Spiritual experience, I had the pleasure to live many Ayahausca workshops, where I was able to reach unlimited imagery passing in my mind, an endless thing.

I would think that imagination is limited in a time perspective, a precise short duration moment, and after thinking, reading, imagination grow to other limit.

The best to you in the new year 2015.

[Deega]

Another intuitive response.

I beleive that we are connected to ET (with AI contributing) just like a computer (us) is connected to a server (ET). We are an electromagnetic field (including the chakra) that surround us, so they (ET) easily would have an interface connecting our electromagnetic field, it might stand within the realm of possibilities.

At night, when we go to sleep, in our first cycle of dreams (notice, I never did remember the first cycle of my dream, do you?), the AI (by ET involvement) connect to us to check (done automatic) our condition, and we are help somehow dependant on if we live on extreme condition (health, mission, objectives, etc), and help is brought in. Far fetch you may think, it's only intuitive I should rementioned.

If this intuitive possibilities has a chance to hold, it would be easy for the ET to managed somehow our soul upon death!

The best to everyone, and "happiness" is send your way for the new year 2015.

[muxfolder]

AFk8qKO-Z50

4 hours of information about prison planet earth. Hope this helps.:)

[Wyrmspleen]

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[Observer1964]

I think Michael Tellinger is on the spot with his hypothesis that an artificial grid is around the Earth created by the ancient megalithic monuments, the holes in it is becoz of the state of disrepair of manny of these ancient monuments.

[Sunny-side-up]

Ill say this
I personally/my soul is in dis-ease, dis-harmony with the few that are controlling this planet, the planet that my lower density body is stuck on!
I have glimpses of my higher-self and OBE's yet I'm separated/fragmented and confined!

I/we are being held here, I/we are here in this time to help break the traps, it's time!

[True seeker]

Listen what the Akashic Records said about this "soul net": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HKj6M1UHS7U
Apparently this net exist and designed to trick us for recycling, so we will be stack in karma weel forfewer.

[True seeker]

Thank you very much for sharing https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AFk8qKO-Z50. So important information!!! I have been studying it for last week. It must be taught in history classes in schools, instead of brainwashing kids with modern history. Where u can find the original transcripts?

I have looked in Laozi book " the way" (The Dao De Jing ) mentioned in this transcript and learn that he is the one who established the Daoism. Cannot find his book " the way" but came across the book The Dao De Jing consist of 81 chapters where he explain the way to escape the "soul net" that recycle us back. What this transcripts said
He who look will not see it;
He who listen will not hear it;
He who gropes will not grasp it;
The formless nonentity, the motionless source of motion.
The infinite essense of the spirit is the source of life;
Spirit is itself.
Walls form and support a room, yet the space between them is most important.
A pot is formed of clay, yet the space formed therein is most useful.
Actions is caused by the force of nothing on something, just as the nothing of spirit is the source of all force.
One suffers great afflictions because one has a body.
Without a body what afflictions could you suffer?
When one cares more for the body that for his own spirit, one become the body and looses the way of the spirit.
the self, the spirit, creates illusion. The delusion of Man is that reality is not an illusion. One who create illusions and makes them real than reality, follows the path of the spirit and find the way of heaven"
is aligned with what written in Daoism teachings:

4.

Dao is an empty vessel,
used without ever being filled,
unfathomably deep, the source of all things,
where sharpness blunts,
knots untangle,
glare mellows,
dust coalesces. So hidden, in nonbeing it is being.
Who knows whose child it is,
this ancestor of the gods?
11.

Thirty spokes joined at one hub;
emptiness makes the cart useful.
Clay cast into a pot;
the emptiness inside makes it useful.
Doors and windows cut to make a room;
emptiness make the room useful.
Thus being is beneficial
but usefulness comes from the void".
Source: http://www.thedrunkenboat.com/laozi.html

[DNA]

Listen what the Akashic Records said about this "soul net": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HKj6M1UHS7U
Apparently this net exist and designed to trick us for recycling, so we will be stack in karma weel forfewer.

It would help to give a source for who is,,,ahem,,,,translating this akashic record tid bit.

For instance,,,,If Edgar Cayce is doing it I'll be like,,,dang let me read that. If Jane Roberts were translating it I would again be quite happy to invest my time.
If it's Barbara Marciniak or any host of other crap peddlers I'd like to have the opportunity of not wasting my time.

Good Day. :)

[bearcow]

The Dao De Jing makes no mention of a soul net. It is speaking of the internal negative qualities of people that enslave them, not some Extra terrestrial built inter dimensional grid.

I say this to everyone who believes the elite, reptilians or whatever else their imaginations can conjure is the "problem".

Take responsibility for your life and stop externalizing your own personal deficiencies.

If you have your **** together it doesn't matter if any of these things exist.

[DNA]

The Dao De Jing makes no mention of a soul net. It is speaking of the internal negative qualities of people that enslave them, not some Extra terrestrial built inter dimensional grid.

I say this to everyone who believes the elite, reptilians or whatever else their imaginations can conjure is the "problem".

Take responsibility for your life and stop externalizing your own personal deficiencies.

If you have your **** together it doesn't matter if any of these things exist.

I consider your opinion quite highly.

I for the longest time thought exactly like you on this. And I must protect and cultivate the part of my self that still believes as you do, for it offers respite and sanctuary from the onslaught that seems to be reality.
I do a 60-40 split, believing as you do for the majority of my being, and allowing myself to be subjected to information I for the most part do not want to know and certainly do not want to believe.

It starts with Barbara Bartholic and Dr. Karla Turner.
These two names can provide someone with years of study if one were so inclined.

Dr. Karla Turner, a University English professor wrote three books that started with her own abduction experiences as she sought hypnotic regression therapy from one Barbara Bartholic in hopes of discovering the answers to the questions she had. A portion of these experiences is what she used to write her book into the fringe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXSW4LsgMo
The extent of these finding point to the ability of greys and reptilians utilizing some type of technology brandished in the form of a hand held black cube that can extract a soul from a living being and insert it into a freshly cloned copy of that person.
Some folks like Linda Moulten Howe have attempted to insert a benevolent reason and intent into those perpetuating this deed.
Dr. Karla Turner did not, nor did Barbara Bartholic.
I would like to mention also that John Leer gets his prison planet, soul catching information from the Area 51 "yellow book" as relayed to him by Bob Lazar who worked there for a small time.
Project Yellow Book states that there is a huge multi-mile structure on the moon, a black cube, and this structure recycles souls from earth, capturing them and sending them back.

[bearcow]

I consider your opinion quite highly.

I for the longest time thought exactly like you on this. And I must protect and cultivate the part of my self that still believes as you do, for it offers respite and sanctuary from the onslaught that seems to be reality.
I do a 60-40 split, believing as you do for the majority of my being, and allowing myself to be subjected to information I for the most part do not want to know and certainly do not want to believe.

It starts with Barbara Bartholic and Dr. Karla Turner.
These two names can provide someone with years of study if one were so inclined.

Dr. Karla Turner, a University English professor wrote three books that started with her own abduction experiences as she sought hypnotic regression therapy from one Barbara Bartholic in hopes of discovering the answers to the questions she had. A portion of these experiences is what she used to write her book into the fringe.


As I remember you have spoken about personal experiences about Astral Projections and other paranormal experiences.

For sure you know as I, that there are negative entities that exist that act as a hindrance to humanity's salvation.

The main value in "extraordinary" experiences for the individual is that they become a living experiential part of your life. Ie, you know they are real and after time they become integrated into your practical understanding of how reality works. This has tremendous value for you, but for those who read about it on the forum should only view it as a potential aspect of reality unless their personal experience has already corroborated such events/circumstances. The only knowledge that has any true value comes from experience.

When someone like Simon Parkes talks about the stuff that he claims to experience, it makes no difference to me if it is true or not, because it has no practical value currently in my relationship with reality in general. It is irrelevant information, because I currently have no practical frame of reference to interact with such beings/things/whatever at this time.

If that were to change I would reevaluate my current world view, and slowly try to discern the "meaning" of such experiences and re integrate them as another piece of the puzzle. I believe the synchronicity of the universe will provide the next building block experiences for people that are most useful for them at that time, so I don't worry about such things until they are apparent to me to be actual.

If you have had genuine experience along such lines I would encourage you share them with the membership if you think it benefits the majority of readers. In saying this there are things I have experiences/information that I know to be true but do not share because most people wont be able to use/understand the information clearly.

Quite Simply, there are too many people on this forum who believe they are doing "research" and simply trying to force information in texts like the dao de jing, Nag Hamadi texts, Egyptian book of dead, etc to fit in to their psychological projections about what reality is. I hate to say it, but most people on this forum are not capable to clearly discern what is going on within themselves, let alone the akashic records, inter-dimensional intelligence etc. In addition, The unconscious mind first and foremost speaks to the conscious mind in regression through analogy. All regression is based upon the archetypes of the unconscious mind.

Maybe that's why the gnostics called em archons?

I had a projection a few days ago where I was attacked by entities that i perceived to be witches. Were they actual witches, of course not. But I saw them as such because they were imbued with qualities that were witch like. If you believe the bogeyman is real and cannot fully comprehend what you are seeing, you will see the boogeyman.

Remember the story of the American Indians not being able to see the ships from the new world, those ships didn't have cloaking devices, the American Indians just had no frame of reference to interpret what they were seeing.

For the record, there is a lot of nefarious activity surrounding planet earth, as well as amazingly positive influence. But I find it ridiculous that people think there is a grid to capture their soul when they don't even know what a soul is or how it operates.

What if I were to tell you that part of your soul has to return to the earth after you die, and that is just the natural progression of the evolutionary cycle?

[Elainie]

The Dao De Jing makes no mention of a soul net. It is speaking of the internal negative qualities of people that enslave them, not some Extra terrestrial built inter dimensional grid.

I say this to everyone who believes the elite, reptilians or whatever else their imaginations can conjure is the "problem".

Take responsibility for your life and stop externalizing your own personal deficiencies.

If you have your **** together it doesn't matter if any of these things exist.




I just purchased what I think might be an interesting read http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1452568294?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
I believe the only bogeyman in the equation is one's self.

[True seeker]

http://howtoexitthematrix.com/2015/10/17/nasas-kepler-telescope-discovers-a-colossal-artificial-structure-orbiting-a-star-in-our-vicinity/

[seah]

The main value in "extraordinary" experiences for the individual is that they become a living experiential part of your life. Ie, you know they are real and after time they become integrated into your practical understanding of how reality works. This has tremendous value for you, but for those who read about it on the forum should only view it as a potential aspect of reality unless their personal experience has already corroborated such events/circumstances. The only knowledge that has any true value comes from experience.
I am in total agreement, but by the same token it is possible that you have encountered information which someone shares based on their personal experience that you, yourself, have not experienced...why refer to it as "ridiculous"? it may be of value to another who can relate.
I am not for or against the proposition that Earth has a "soul net" around it but I am aware of far more ridiculous concepts that are part of my present understand of reality.



If you have had genuine experience along such lines I would encourage you share them with the membership if you think it benefits the majority of readers. In saying this there are things I have experiences/information that I know to be true but do not share because most people wont be able to use/understand the information clearly.

Respectfully, saying that you are withholding information you "know to be true" because you feel most Avalon members would not comprehend it, sounds rather elitist, the reason why secret societies are formed in the first place.
Even if only 2% could relate it would be worthwhile.



I had a projection a few days ago where I was attacked by entities that i perceived to be witches. Were they actual witches, of course not. But I saw them as such because they were imbued with qualities that were witch like. If you believe the bogeyman is real and cannot fully comprehend what you are seeing, you will see the boogeyman.

In other words, you believe in witches and that is why you saw them.
Are you saying the astral beings you encountered know of your belief and materialized as such, or that there really was nothing there and your projection was a creation of your mind?



What if I were to tell you that part of your soul has to return to the earth after you die, and that is just the natural progression of the evolutionary cycle?

This is where I would have to tell you that you are misinformed.
Had you said that part of Your soul has to return to the earth after You die, and that is just the natural progression of the evolutionary cycle for Your soul, I would say thanks for sharing. But I understand you are attempting to tell me about the evolutionary cycle of My soul.

[True seeker]

Laozi ( why you can him Dao De Jing ) wrote only one book Dao De Jing. This book was about how to escape reincarnation (soul net).
Here is links science minded: http://howtoexitthematrix.com/2015/10/17/nasas-kepler-telescope-discovers-a-colossal-artificial-structure-orbiting-a-star-in-our-vicinity/

[True seeker]

The rosewel alien interview provides a whole of a lot light on the business of the Old Empire https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AFk8qKO-Z50

[True seeker]

How to exit reincarnation process: http://in5d.com/how-to-exit-the-reincarnation-system/#sthash.2Av9PXb7.Y5mqRlpz.dpbs

[DNA]

The rosewel alien interview provides a whole of a lot light on the business of the Old Empire https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AFk8qKO-Z50

Here is the free PDF written by Lawrence Spencer (http://exopoliticshongkong.com/uploads/Alien_Interview.pdf).

The work feels genuine, and for a while I felt it was. It was the Peanut Butter and Robert Morningsky's Terra Papers were the Jelly.

Our forum operator Bill Ryan with Graham Hancock got Spencer to admit that he had fictitiously made the whole thing up.
So for what it's worth, the work is false.

[muxfolder]

The rosewel alien interview provides a whole of a lot light on the business of the Old Empire https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AFk8qKO-Z50

Here is the free PDF written by Lawrence Spencer (http://exopoliticshongkong.com/uploads/Alien_Interview.pdf).

The work feels genuine, and for a while I felt it was. It was the Peanut Butter and Robert Morningsky's Terra Papers were the Jelly.

Our forum operator Bill Ryan with Graham Hancock got Spencer to admit that he had fictitiously made the whole thing up.
So for what it's worth, the work is false.

I had already forgotten this was a hoax. Here's the thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6865-HOAX-Lawrence-Spencer-s-ALIEN-INTERVIEW

[True seeker]

Regardless what Spencer came up with or "borough" ideas from L. Ron Hubbard, both learned, create their linear dimension by correlating same ideas. Where this info originally came from is unknown. There are many other sources that can correlate to Alien interview such as reptalian Lacerta interview and many others.
This is one amazing ability we have that we should be aware of. We are creating multiple reality in order to experience autonomy. I am keep looking into karma weel that keep us reincarnate through the technology of magnetic grid around the earth. I came across of study to summarize our creation from Whole/Creator/universal consciousness (what ever you want to call it). It was an experiment of Whole who wish to experience fragmentation and individuality. So the Whole explodes and create many individualities to gain unlimited experience.
"The Whole's initial curiosity about a fragmented existence actually created the reality itself. It required a shift in perspective, focus, or frequency. As part of the Whole, aspects of the Galactic Family were partially responsible for laying out the blueprint that was to guide their development. Therefore, the statement "we are God" actually has viable meaning.

The blueprint that was laid out contained many different ideas. It first held the notion that polarity and fragmentation would be the. norm. The encoding in the blueprint provided the option of Free Will on the part of each fragment or soul. The challenge was in remembering that each consciousness possessed it. The more Free Will is used, the more divine memory is invoked. When faced with a polarized reality, Free Will becomes the liberator. When a soul forgets it possesses Free Will, the lessons become much more challenging, yet quite rewarding.

Another idea present in this chosen blueprint was that fragments of the Whole would be entirely responsible for their actions during this state of amnesia. Whether or not it was remembered, every action taken would generate a response from the universe. Some have called this karma; however, it is much more than "an eye for an eye."

Instead of punishments for negative behavior, there is always the option of expanding one's awareness.

Therefore, in a sense, wisdom erases karm.
So, if you with to escape the soul net/ re-incarnation/ etc, expand your awareness.
Welcome to expand your awareness here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net

[seah]

How is the option of expanding our awareness always present? if it were, wouldn't we all choose expansion?
Each of us is on a very individuated journey. We only notice our past lack of awareness after having made some strides; from a place of unawareness we cannot knowingly make a choice to be wiser.

[True seeker]

Good question Seah! :thumbsup:You are doing it, expanding your awareness in every moment you are exercising your Free will. You absolutely make choice every moment in present of expand or not expand awareness by decision making process. It is a life force in you. However, some choice to ignore or neglected it.
If you have no awareness, you are an artificial intelligence. It is like we are all breathing, but only some meditate cause they aware of their breath.

[MorningFox]

How is the option of expanding our awareness always present? if it were, wouldn't we all choose expansion?


Just because something is present, doesn't mean it is obvious or easy.

[True seeker]

In respond to muxfolder:
"I had already forgotten this was a hoax. Here's the thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...LIEN-INTERVIEW":

Read the all comment to the HOAX: Lawrence Spencer's 'ALIEN INTERVIEW' post (link provided above), do your own research. Spencer answered.... Exercise your own judgement instead of follow, do not create yourself an authority, free yourself, expand your awareness. Ask yourself, If not such "fictional tale", will you ever able to come up with it yourself? Exercise your FREE WILL. Is it what you desire to escape the reincarnation weel? You asked and your get answered.