NASA's Fermi Finds Giant - Nov 9th Media Conference

[Rocky_Shorz]

NASA's Fermi Finds Giant, Previously Unseen Structure In Our Galaxy

WASHINGTON -- NASA will hold a media teleconference at 2:30 p.m. EST on Tuesday, Nov. 9, to discuss a new discovery by the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope. Gamma rays are the highest-energy form of light. The soon-to-be published findings include the discovery of enormous but previously unrecognized "gamma-ray bubbles" centered in the Milky Way.

info (http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/M10-155_Fermi_Telecon.html)

[Rocky_Shorz]

wow not one person even glanced at this thread, I guess I should have gone for sensationalism...

NASA FINDS NIBIRU - Diclosure November 9th...

[Arpheus]

Just add some fear mongering to it and you have swarms of members all over it soon it enough LOL.

[Etherios]

the article says very little... they just speculate... they didnt discover something what should we reply to this? OMG nice ??

[Carmody]

Very Cool!

[MariaDine]

:couch2::popcorn: ..............Yes, not much Info...We have to wait for the »news» .....

[Solphilos]

Hmm, sounds like NASA might have 'found' something that was known about for thousands of years. Could prove interesting.

[onawah]

I thought it WAS fear mongering, which is why I didn't glance at it until now. :lol:

[conk]

A giant? 8 feet, 9 feet tall? Does he need an agent?

[Fredkc]

Ok... I'll ask,
WASHINGTON -- NASA will hold a media teleconference at 2:30 p.m. EST on Tuesday, Nov. 9, to discuss a new discovery by the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope. Gamma rays are the highest-energy form of light. The soon-to-be published findings include the discovery of enormous but previously unrecognized "gamma-ray bubbles" centered in the Milky Way.
haven't we been talking about this since the LA Meet-up, at least?
Didn't D. Wilcock mention this as a potential threat in his talk last summer?

Or was that a plasma string, or wave?

[rosie]

Hey Rockey, as my dreams for years have been dominated by a rogue planet, I will be keeping an eye on this update. Thanks!

[Rocky_Shorz]

well someone has been saying the brown dwarf was only visible through infra-red or Gamma Ray type telescopes...

a whole day before the doom seekers find out the answer... lol

[Agape]

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/high_grb.html



NASA's Fermi Telescope Sees Most Extreme Gamma-ray Blast


The first gamma-ray burst to be seen in high-resolution from NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope is one for the record books. The blast had the greatest total energy, the fastest motions and the highest-energy initial emissions ever seen.

"We were waiting for this one," said Peter Michelson, the principal investigator on Fermi's Large Area Telescope at Stanford University. "Burst emissions at these energies are still poorly understood, and Fermi is giving us the tools to understand them."



Gamma-ray bursts are the universe's most luminous explosions. Astronomers believe most occur when exotic massive stars run out of nuclear fuel. As a star's core collapses into a black hole, jets of material -- powered by processes not yet fully understood -- blast outward at nearly the speed of light. The jets bore all the way through the collapsing star and continue into space, where they interact with gas previously shed by the star and generate bright afterglows that fade with time.

This explosion, designated GRB 080916C, occurred at 7:13 p.m. EDT on Sept. 15, in the constellation Carina. Fermi's other instrument, the Gamma-ray Burst Monitor, simultaneously recorded the event. Together, the two instruments provide a view of the blast's initial, or prompt, gamma-ray emission from energies between 3,000 to more than 5 billion times that of visible light.

Nearly 32 hours after the blast, Jochen Greiner of the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Garching, Germany, led a group that searched for the explosion's fading afterglow. The team simultaneously captured the field in seven wavelengths using the Gamma-Ray Burst Optical/Near-Infrared Detector, or GROND, on the 2.2-meter telescope at the European Southern Observatory in La Silla, Chile. In certain colors, the brightness of a distant object shows a characteristic drop-off caused by intervening gas clouds. The farther away the object is, the redder the wavelength where this fade-out occurs. This gives astronomers a quick estimate of the object's distance. The team's follow-up observations established that the explosion took place 12.2 billion light-years away.

"Already, this was an exciting burst," said Julie McEnery, a Fermi deputy project scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "But with the GROND team's distance, it went from exciting to extraordinary."

With the distance in hand, Fermi team members showed that the blast exceeded the power of approximately 9,000 ordinary supernovae, if the energy was emitted equally in all directions. This is a standard way for astronomers to compare events even though gamma-ray bursts emit most of their energy in tight jets.

Coupled with the Fermi measurements, the distance also helps astronomers determine the slowest speeds possible for material emitting the prompt gamma rays. Within the jet of this burst, gas bullets must have moved at 99.9999 percent the speed of light. This burst's tremendous power and speed make it the most extreme recorded to date.

One curious aspect of the burst is a five-second delay separating the highest-energy emissions from the lowest. Such a time lag has been seen clearly in only one earlier burst.

"It may mean that the highest-energy emissions are coming from different parts of the jet or created through a different mechanism," Michelson said.

The team's results appear today in the online edition of the journal Science.

NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope is an astrophysics and particle physics partnership mission, developed in collaboration with the U.S. Department of Energy and important contributions from academic institutions and partners in France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Sweden, and the United States.



Did they mean this one. It maybe the nearest Supernova blast in such a magnitude so they're able to detect it. Gamma rays are strong but disappear /disperse very quickly compared to other forms of energy when travelling in space ,
if that occurred further they'd not be able to record it .

Interesting ..


:panda:

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm not sure if they would consider it an object, and they are already showing info on it on the website...

I was reading up on it yesterday...

They called a press conference to announce something new...


so all we can do at this point is wait and hope it is something really exciting...

[Fredkc]

Awfully free with that word "exciting" eh, Rocky?
http://fredsitelive.com/fun/rofl.gif
Fred

[Rocky_Shorz]

anticipation is half the fun...

tick... tick... tick...

[bashi]

"One of the pleasures of perusing ancient maps is locating regions so poorly explored that mapmakers warned of dragons and sea monsters."

http://spacefellowship.com/news/art18867/nasa-s-fermi-probes-dragons-of-the-gamma-ray-sky.html

I am sure somebody can find numerous incoming superwaves here:


2840

Its the whole gamma ray sky

[Roofie]

Well after the hype its only the remnants of a black hole in the centre of our galaxy.

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_10-295_FERMI.html

[Harley]

How do you get "A Remnant" from a Black Hole? Think about it.

I just love mainstream scientists. As long as their answers are peer-reviewed and approved then they are right!

This article almost seems like at first they had something to say but then changed their minds. Or had it changed for them!

I don't know about y'all, but I sure am glad I don't live in the center of the galaxy!

[MariaDine]

Scientists have recently discovered a gigantic, mysterious structure in our galaxy. This feature looks like a pair of bubbles extending above and below our galaxy's center. Each lobe is 25,000 light-years tall and the whole structure may be only a few million years old.


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/new-structure.html




http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/498884main_DF3_Fermi_bubble_art_labels.jpg

[Teakai]

Scientists have recently discovered a gigantic, mysterious structure in our galaxy. This feature looks like a pair of bubbles extending above and below our galaxy's center. Each lobe is 25,000 light-years tall and the whole structure may be only a few million years old.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/new-structure.html

[/IMG]

Interesting, MariaDine.

I'd love to know what they base the few million year age estimate on when they don't even know what it is.

[Alan]

That picture couldn't possibly be the Milky Way, could it, since we're IN the Milky Way??

[Zook]

Good morning Alamojo, the Earth says hello!


That picture couldn't possibly be the Milky Way, could it, since we're IN the Milky Way??

That was my first thought as well. That definitely is not a photograph ... but it could be a computer rendering of the energy data received by the Fermi telescope. The guys/gals that release such graphics information should have made that clear, IMO. Even if we had had a telescopic view from another galaxy (looking back at ours from the right angle courtesy of extraterrestials), there's too much regularity and definition in the purplish orbs to make it believable. Just speaking from a layman`s perspective.

:typing:

[Sapphire]

I think it's a model, how it would look like if you would look at it from outside of our galaxy

[The One]

I do not beleive a word those nasa scientist say.If this object was unexplainable they wouldnt admit it they would just give us the bull they are used to giving us.

[Swami]

Paul LaViolette on this ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/40152463#40152463

[norman]

Are they just putting out a pre-placed MSM answer in preparation for the flurry of detections and observations they expect to come from the amateurs and 'out-of-the-loop' astronomers shortly?..... I wonder.

edit: If not, that is SO! Nassim Haramein. ( I recently revisited his extreemly long 2 part YouTube video and watched it all TWICE! )

[noxon medem]

- think Ferma images, is not only a rendering of the received data,
but also an artistic (visual) interpretation of the same.

related thread here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7957-NASA-Announces-Televised-News-Conference-for-discovery-of-exceptional-object...&p=67997#post67997

nm

[Teakai]

Are they just putting out a pre-placed MSM answer in preparation for the flurry of detections and observations they expect to come from the amateurs and 'out-of-the-loop' astronomers shortly?..... I wonder.

edit: If not, that is SO! Nassim Haramein. ( I recently revisited his extreemly long 2 part YouTube video and watched it all TWICE! )

Which one was that, Norman?
Would you recommend viewing it?

[Carmody]

This ties straight into 'global scaling theory'. Ie, this looks very much like the torsionally combining 2-d aspects of what makes up a 3-d atomic structure.

As above - So below.