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kevlor
30th December 2014, 22:33
The following newsletter was received and is important information for all users of mms.
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Understanding the differences between MMS1 drops, CDS and CDH
Technical update newsletter

The difference between MMS drops activated, (MMS1) and CDS and CDH is important to know especially when you are fighting a life threatening disease. Jim and I want to give the world the best information we can to get the best results when it comes to “restoring health”. It has been three years since we started using CDS and in that time we have seen many people’s health restored using this formula. We have only been using CDH for a little over a year and teaching the process of how to make it in our Genesis II Seminars worldwide. Both CDS and CDH have their place and we continue to use them both in our protocols however, after extensive use with all three forms of MMS, and gathering feedback from people firsthand in several countries who have or are using the various forms of MMS, and then after further testing, we now want to share with you the following important conclusions:

Jim has been telling me for some time now to stick with using the activated drops, (MMS1), especially when dealing with people with severe or life threatening diseases. He always thought the results to be quicker and more complete with the drops. Even though we have seen many people have “good” results using the CDS or CDH, we have noticed that many using CDS and CDH had been increasing the dosage a lot with some even doing 30 cc’s (or mls) a day! We have noticed that when using CDS or CDH sometimes extra cc’s above that recommended by the written protocol is required.

Months ago Jim found that when he added a certain amount of extra HCl to a dose of MMS1, simulating stomach acid, the strength of the chlorine dioxide increased 10 times! In other words, the 25 ppm of chlorine dioxide increased to 250 ppm when the amount of stomach acid was added. This is a very significant finding because now we know that the small doses of MMS that we have been taking all along often turn into quite large doses in the stomach and is probably one of the reasons why the classic MMS drops often seem to get really good results.

Jim decided to test the CDS by adding some carefully simulated stomach acid to a dose of CDS the same as that which was added to the MMS. He found another amazing discovery which especially explains so much to me. What Jim observed was that when he added the stomach acid (that’s a certain strength of hydrochloric acid, which is what is normally produced in the stomach) to the CDS, it almost instantly neutralized the CDS. In other words the chlorine dioxide in the CDS was almost immediately destroyed preventing it from benefitting the body.

Now, what does that tell us about CDS being ingested in the body? When CDS is introduced into the stomach through the mouth, and the average amount of stomach acid or more is present, the CDS (chlorine dioxide in solution) is destroyed! This explains to me why we had to “ramp” up the doses for the members at the different Health Restoration Centers to get results or to overcome the little stomach acid most people have these days. The advantage of the CDS not having a really bad taste was being outweighed by the destruction of CDS in the stomach.

Jim went on to test CDH in the same way he tested CDS. He found the same results! When he added stomach acid to the CDH in a dose of CDH, the CDH (chlorine dioxide holding) was destroyed in seconds! So now, we have CDS and CDH being neutralized almost immediately when reaching the average amount of acid found in the stomach, but MMS drops activated (that’s MMS1), are getting up to 10 times stronger and they never get weaker under the same condition.

The big question then is—why did many get “good” results when taking high doses of CDS or CDH? There are a couple of answers, some of these people probably had less than the average amount of stomach acid (not uncommon in today’s world), or secondly, they added enough extra CDS or CDH to outweigh the stomach acid that was present. The people who have little acid available for digestion were getting results because the chlorine dioxide was “getting through” into the intestine and into the blood. They still had to “ramp” up the doses considerably.

Let me give you a couple of practical examples of CDS verses the activated drops:

1. A man at our recent seminar had been taking 1-3ml of CDS for four months and couldn’t get rid of his continuous cold like symptoms. He also said he really didn’t see concrete results when doing the Protocol 1000 with CDS. While at the seminar for the first time he took a standard 3-drop dose of MMS1 and then immediately began to see improvement. We are hearing this more and more.

2. Kerri Rivera, who deals with thousands of Autistic children worldwide had “no recoveries” when she switched from using activated drops to CDS but, when she changed back to the original activated drops she again started seeing “recoveries” from the symptoms of Autism.

Notes:

Jim has also tested the MMS tablets to see if they keep the same ppm when the stomach acid is added to the 3-drop dose, and is seems that there is no change in the strength of the pills.

The inventor of CDH has now changed the CDH formula to help it get a similar increasing results from stomach acid. The new formula may make it more useful in different uses on or to the body. No new tests have been done at this time to determine added usefulness of the new CDH, but such tests are planned for the immediate future.

Scott McRae is the inventor of CDH and he has posted the new formula at: http://www.mmsinfo.org/ (under "INFO Sheets") and Scott’s Website at http://www.cdhinfo.org/

Note: If you have a life-threatening disease ONLY use the activated drops, (MMS1), to make sure you are getting the best potency.

Around the world, thousands of people are still using the old formula for CDH, so if you know of anyone doing so, please pass this new information on to them.

We have come to the conclusion that taking MMS drops orally is usually better, except on those occasions where someone still needs to use CDS for a few days to adjust to the taste or in the case where someone may be so sensitive to MMS and CDS is good to help them adjust overall to taking chlorine dioxide into their body. But, with the addition of HCl as an activator the taste is smoother than Citric Acid as well as the bad reactions to citric acid being introduced into the stomach are gone as well.

REMEMBER: All these following protocols can be also made with activated MMS drops, (MMS1).

We do recommend CDS and CDH for the following protocols:

Note: These are protocols that don’t involve chlorine dioxide coming in contact with stomach acid.

• Applications such as:

- Eye, ear and nose Protocols
- Bath Protocols
- Skin Protocols
- Mouth Protocols
- Douche Protocol
- Enema Protocol
- Protocol 3000
- Any other protocols that do not involve entering the stomach
- Use as mentioned above where someone still needs to adjust to the taste or when someone is super sensitive to MMS and needs to start out with the purest chlorine dioxide possible

The very best way to learn the Genesis II Church Sacramental Protocols is to attend one of our worldwide seminars or take an online video course. Both options can be seen at: genesis2church.is website.

We hope this has helped everyone understand the need to use the activated drops, MMS1, whenever possible when ingesting the protocols to achieve the best results. Let’s see many more worldwide with their “health restored” and maintained throughout their lives.

We are trying to show thorough information about how our MMS works and report to you our findings after many travels, and corresponding with people all around the world. We encourage people to be responsible for their own health to listen to their body and do as they feel led in deciding what course of action to take thus we would never discourage anyone in using CDS and CDH if they feel it’s needed. It is our intention only to show you what is the very best way to go at all times.

We are changing the world by the 1000’s

Archbishop Mark S. Grenon
Approved by Archbishop Jim Humble



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i have used all of the above methods.
the original mms1, is horrible to take, but the most effective.
haveing controlled all my known problems (i think), i now use cds only, its much easier on the tastebuds.
its very effective but as they say above, it is neutralised when it hits the stomach. i have noticed this ... kev

pixiestix
31st December 2014, 02:50
Thanks Kevlor for this information. I have a stockpile of CDS and HCL Activator powder that is now quite limited in it's application..........very disappointing.

If you want to be rid of the terrible taste of MMS1 for example, just put drops in gel caps and swallow!! :nod::nod::wave:
You can purchase the gel capsules at most drug stores.

Dennis Leahy
2nd January 2015, 18:58
I'm bumping this because I think it is important and because...

... I really wish I had not just ordered MMS2 a week ago (I'd cancel the order if I could.) Sounds like I'll stick with the original MMS - and I already have some.)

ThePythonicCow
2nd January 2015, 19:26
I'm bumping this because I think it is important and because...

... I really wish I had not just ordered MMS2 a week ago (I'd cancel the order if I could.) Sounds like I'll stick with the original MMS - and I already have some.)
I'm confused by your reply, Dennis. The opening post of this thread makes no mention of MMS2.

MMS (and now distinguished as "MMS 1") is made using SODIUM CHLORITE solution and an acid
MMS 2 is made with CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE and an acid.
CDS (Chlorine Dioxide Solution) is a variant of MMS1 that has just the chlorine dioxide, but no other reactants remaining, nor any other resulting products.
CDH (Chlorine Dioxide Holding Solution) is yet another variant of MMS1, reacted slowly over many hours.

Apparently, from what I can tell, the original MMS (aka MMS1) still has some unreacted sodium chlorite in it, which reacts with stomach acid to make it stronger.

The two variants, CDS and CDH, are more fully reacted, "purer" chlorine dioxide solutions, so get weaker, not stronger, when exposed to stomach acid.

So CDS and CDH can be used in non-acidic (most any protocol that doesn't involve swallowing it) protocols, or perhaps (we don't know yet) used orally with quite different protocols (frequency and quantity) than we know of currently.

The current oral protocols that we know to work well all involve MMS1 (the original MMS).

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Personally, I know that I am able to handle the equivalent of 50 to 100 MMS drops (10 ml of 5,000 to 10,000 ppm CDS, diluted in a cup or two of water), over an hour or two, with no apparent distress, when taken orally in the CDS form. This is way more than I would attempt using original MMS1. Whether that oral CDS is doing me any real good or not, I don't know. I don't happen to have any symptoms that have ever responded dramatically to any form of MMS. So about all I can verify for any of these variants and protocols is that "it hasn't killed me or made me so sick that I wish it had killed me."

I continue to use CDS and CDH variants topically (externally, on my skin), confident that it "kills bugs".

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P.S. -- My methods for making CDS and CDH are described in this post and posts it links to: A new form of MMS: CDH - Chlorine Dioxide Holding solution (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76406-A-new-form-of-MMS-CDH-Chlorine-Dioxide-Holding-solution)

Dennis Leahy
2nd January 2015, 21:40
I'm bumping this because I think it is important and because...

... I really wish I had not just ordered MMS2 a week ago (I'd cancel the order if I could.) Sounds like I'll stick with the original MMS - and I already have some.)
I'm confused by your reply, Dennis. The opening post of this thread makes no mention of MMS2.


MMS (and now distinguished as "MMS 1") is made using SODIUM CHLORITE solution and an acid
MMS 2 is made with CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE and an acid.
CDS (Chlorine Dioxide Solution) is a variant of MMS1 that has just the chlorine dioxide, but no other reactants remaining, nor any other resulting products.
CDH (Chlorine Dioxide Holding Solution) is yet another variant of MMS1, reacted slowly over many hours.


Apparently, from what I can tell, the original MMS (aka MMS1) still has some unreacted sodium chlorite in it, which reacts with stomach acid to make it stronger.

The two variants, CDS and CDH, are more fully reacted, "purer" chlorine dioxide solutions, so get weaker, not stronger, when exposed to stomach acid.

So CDS and CDH can be used in non-acidic (most any protocol that doesn't involve swallowing it) protocols, or perhaps (we don't know yet) used orally with quite different protocols (frequency and quantity) than we know of currently.

The current oral protocols that we know to work well all involve MMS1 (the original MMS).

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Personally, I know that I am able to handle the equivalent of 50 to 100 MMS drops (10 ml of 5,000 to 10,000 ppm CDS, diluted in a cup or two of water), over an hour or two, with no apparent distress, when taken orally in the CDS form. This is way more than I would attempt using original MMS1. Whether that oral CDS is doing me any real good or not, I don't know. I don't happen to have any symptoms that have ever responded dramatically to any form of MMS. So about all I can verify for any of these variants and protocols is that "it hasn't killed me or made me so sick that I wish it had killed me."

I continue to use CDS and CDH variants topically (externally, on my skin), confident that it "kills bugs".

==

P.S. -- My methods for making CDS and CDH are described in this post and posts it links to: A new form of MMS: CDH - Chlorine Dioxide Holding solution (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76406-A-new-form-of-MMS-CDH-Chlorine-Dioxide-Holding-solution)

Thank you, thank you, Paul. Excellent clarification. I was cornfused. I was thinking that MMS2 was another name for CDS (which was the 2nd form of MMS that I was aware of.) I am obviously terribly behind in reading about the variants of original MMS. Time for me to read more and talk less about this subject.

Dennis

Meggings
3rd January 2015, 02:37
Thanks, Kevlor, for posting this new understanding of MMS1 and CDS. Using MMS1 drops has saved my life, literally, several times in recent years, and it is all I have ever used.

I wonder if you or others know a source for purchasing HCl. And if anyone knows how MANY drops of HCl to add to a dose of MMS1. As we age, most bodies produce less and less HCl, and so it appears to be a beneficial supplement to purchase and use when using MMS1.

kevlor
5th January 2015, 11:48
hi meggings, HCI, HCL (?) that is hydrochloric acid, is readily available in australia at just about any hardware store. cant inform you about CA.

it can be got in 10%, 20% and 33% strengths. my memory of jim humbles information says - one drop of 10% acid to a drop of sodium chlorite.

i personally have been useing citric acid at one 50% drop to a drop of sodium chlorite, to activate. i then tried my 33% hydrochloric acid watered down to 10% as a one to one ratio, but the mix was extremely strong and horrible to take. i am now back to citric acid activator.

my attempt to purchase some food grade 10% hydrochloric acid. was practically comical. no such product exists. that is - food grade.
as paul above states, CDS and CDH still have their place (and much easier to take) i use CDS for all purposes that does not involve the stomach
hope this helps ... kev